Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Which Qur’an is the Final Word of Allah?

Most, if not all Muslims believe that the Qur’an is the final word of Allah, the god of the Arabs. Well, let me start by saying I’ll fully accept that. Please, just tell me which Qur’an is Allah’s final word. My goal in this article is to present to the reader, hopefully a Muslim, the different Qur’ans available out there. My hope is that a good Muslim reader will guide me and show me the light!

When Muhammad died (A. D. 632), his revelations were not collected. Some of his followers tried to collect those known revelations and put them in a codex form. So, we had codices of scholars like Ibn Masud, Abu Bakr, Al-Asha’ri, ..etc. When Islam spread, we had codices in centers like Mecca, Medina, Kufa, Damascus, and Basra. The situation was chaotic because there were literally many Qur’ans. Uthman, bless his heart, tried to fix matters by canonizing the Medina Codex, and destroying all other “Qur’ans”. He sent copies of the one he chose to all places, and ordered the destruction of all other codices. Uthman tried to standardize the consonantal text of the Qur’an.

However, some variant traditions of the consonantal texts survived a few hundred years after that. Another problem was that the letters in the Qur’an were “unpointed”. Many Arabic letters have “points” or “dots” above or below them. For instance a “b” has one dot below it. The same letter is a “t” if it had two dots on top. The same letter is a “th” if it had three dots on top. The situation is similar for many other letters. There were also problems with the short vowels since early Arabic has no sign for short vowels during the time of the Qur’anic collection. Different variant traditions were in development to ascertain how the Qur’an should be pointed and vowelized. In the words of Charles Adams: “ It must be emphasized that far from being a single text passed down inviolate from the time of Uthman’s commission, literally thousands of variant readings of particular verses were known.” [Source: Adams, C. E. “Quran: The Text and Its History.”]

This whole “mess” continued till Ibn Mujahid (died A. D. 935) came along and a definite canonization of consonants and a limit on the variations of vowels was placed. This resulted in the acceptance of seven systems. Each of the seven systems was traced by two different transmitters, providing in all, fourteen readings ! (it is amazing to me that Muslims still talk about “one Qur’an”, whatever that nonsense means):
  1. Nafi of Medina (d. A. D. 785)
     
  2. Ibn Kathir of Mecca (d. A. D. 737)
     
  3. Ibn Amir of Damascus (736)
     
  4. Abu Amr of Basra (770)
     
  5. Asim of Kufa (744)
     
  6. Hamza of Kufa (772)
     
  7. Al-Kisai of Kufa (804)
     

However, other scholars accepted ten readings and others accepted fourteen reading. I won’t go into the details much longer. A note from Charles Adams is appropriate here:

“It is of some importance to call attention to a possible source of misunderstanding with regard to the variant readings of the Quran. The seven [versions] refer to actual differences in the written and oral text, to dictinct versions of Quranic verses, whose differences, though they may not be great, are nonetheless real and substantial.” (bolded part is my emphasis)

 

What I just discussed is a dilemma to the Muslim. There is not “one Qur’an” at all. In fact, it is a very live possibility that the “real” Qur’an is no longer with us. “. In fact, it is a very strong possibility considering all the mess that the Qur’ans went through.

 

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Ibn Kamuna also contributes at faithfreedom.org. He can be contacted at [email protected].


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Name: akhter
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 11:02:34 -0700

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Now is the ultimate opportunity for the humanists and their friends who ever they are to eliminate the only threat to them from Muslims and also a chance to prove wrong ALLAH,MOHAMMAD and 1.9 billion Muslims of the world by producing another QURAN or even a new chapter of it. There is a challenge here for you the new light bearers of the so called modern world, if an illiterate some 1500 years ago by the name of MOHAMMAD could do it, surely it shouldn't be that hard. I wish you all good luck. 


Name: Iqbal butt
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 11:19:34 -0700

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well they could not and there for have not done it for 1500 Akhter, then i think it could never be done, unless some one out there disagrees and has solution to this problem


Name: Abdoh
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 18:41:25 -0700

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Jorge You are really lost man. The Qur'an was collected about 20 years after the death of the prophet for the first time (many versions and suras were floating around). Here is a suggestion for you, Maybe you'll get some things straight instead doing so many nonsense claims. There is a book be Ibn Warraq called "Why I am not a Muslim". I think it will do you a lot of good if you read it. I wanted to respond to your claims, but I did not know where to start and it would take lengthy time. So, Just read the book man. It won't hurt your mind.


Name:
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 20:01:41 -0700

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The nuttier of the Muslim apologists are out in force tonight. Has this site been nobbled so that only they can post?


Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 20:20:00 -0700

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{{Which Quran is the Final Word of Allah}} NONE. The Quran is an invention as is islam by satan's son the embodiment of evil Mohd. Muslim scholar, Dr. Mosa-El-Mosawy, makes this frank confession, "Upon examining the testimonies of his (Mo) great companions, the answer was positive. They clearly stated that perversion and loss of large fragments of the Qur’an did occur. Let us scrutinize their testimony in order to present to deluded Muslims the truth as it is proclaimed by their trusted spiritual leaders and scholars. The deceptive veil must be removed so people can see the true face of the Qur’an. ’Ibn Umar al–Khattab explicitly admits, "Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Qur’an has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available"’ A’isha , the raped child by the lecherous 54 year old sex maniac Mo adds to the story of ibn Umar and says, "During the time of the prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Qur’an, only the current (verses) were recorded" (73 verses).The first collection of the Qur’an which occurred during the time of Abu Bakr after Mo's death. WHY DIDN'T MO ORDER THE COLLECTION OF THE QURAN HIMSELF? Mo was famous for using his invented allah to condone his crimes and be his slave to endorse his misdeeds but how come the angel gabriel nor allah was in sight to order him to have his inspired messages from allah for his followers? Smell a RAT? Mind you, the whole world is to be turned into Darul Islam. Funny ain't it that such "revelations" by his allah was not important to be compiled? The Bukhari : "’Umar said to Abu Bakr, ‘I suggest you order that the Qur’an be collected.’ Abu Bakr said to him, ‘How can you do something which Allah’s messenger did not do.’ Mo had a poor memory: thus his companions memorized for him the Quranic verses they plagiarized/concocted. In the battle of Yamamah, almost all his companions were killed and the original Quranic verses were lost forever and was never compiled in writing before Mo himself was killed. The first compilation by Zayed Ibn Thabit created and caused a lot of problems over the years with its numerous contradictions, ridicule, confusions and errors. So uner the caliph Uthman Zayed was compelled to withdraw all the written versions and they were BURNT!! Ibrahim al-Abyari: "There were also other copies of the Qur’an such as the copy of Abi Musa al-Ash’ari, al-Maqdad ibn al-Aswad, and Salim the client of Abi Huthayfa. There were differences between those copies, differences which Huthayka attested to it. . That frightened ’Uthman, thus he issued an order to collect the Qur’an because the Kufis followed the copy of ibn Mas’ud; the Syrians the copy of ibn Abi Ka’b; the people of Basra, the copy of Musa al-Ash’ari; the Damascenes, the copy of ibn Maqdad." He continues: "Ibn Qutayba says that the differences between the recitations of the various Qur’anic copies may include the meaning also. When Abu Bakr and ’Umar assigned Zayd ibn Thabit to compile the Qur’an, there was a previous compilation of the Qur’an made by a group of the greatest companions such as ’Ali ibn Abi Talib, ibn Mas’ud and ibn ’Abbas and others. Why Abu Bakr and ’Umar took the trouble to do that when ibn Mas’ud and ibn ’Abbas who were (according to Muhammad) the most knowledgeable people in the Qur’an, had already accomplished it? Why did they not at least add them to the committee or solicit their opinions? And so it goes on. Each muslim scholar digs deeper and his intellectual honesty admits that the quran is nothing but an invention - a work of plagiarism mixed with arab black magic and arab folklore. And Sharia is nothing more than the cruel Arab tribal law. That's why every muslim, illiterate or "educated" is a psychopath. His goal is to appease his allah with the blood of the non muslim. Even a donkey has a mind of its own but muslims don't even have that - their quran and fear of allah and emulation of Evil Incarnate Mo turn them into brainless zombies morphed into murderers. That's why more muslims die at their fellow muslim hands . The cries of allahu akbar as hamas slaughters fatah and vice versa. which islamic heaven with 72 virgins awaits them? Muslims are brainless zombies and they prove it every day. It is we who have to be extremely careful and proactive with these potential murderers, every one of them and treat them as the psychopaths they truly are.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 21:24:26 -0700

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Hey akhter, I'm willing to concede that Mohammad heard voices and saw visions, and dictated his revelations to trusted scribes. (Today such synmptoms are treated with anti-psychotic meds.) However, I wonder exactly what you mean by writing, "Now is the ultimate opportunity for the humanists and their friends who ever they are to eliminate the only threat to them from Muslims." What is this "only threat?" Could it be death by beheading? Maybe you mean shunning, like the Amish do? By the way, Adolf Hitler answered your challenge in advance. Although he wasn't exactly a humanist, he was most assuredly an anti-zionist, and this thought should make you happy! His "Qur'an," if you will, was titled "Mein Kampf." You can get it new at Amazon.com for $15.88, here: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-6480898-9732660?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Mein+Kampf....P.S. According to WikiAnswers, here: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Muslims_in_the_world_today there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, but you were close, within 400 million.


Name: silent_rage
Date: Saturday February 02, 2008
Time: 23:34:07 -0700

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What ever happen to Ibn Warraq's 'Which Qur'an' ? Why is it not in print?


Name: To: akhter
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 02:10:28 -0700

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They are not humanists! They are anti-Muslim racists.


Name: Who wrote the quran?
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 02:48:41 -0700

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The author of the quran believed that ants can talk to humans and many other ridiculous miracles, he drew many stories from the bible and apokryphal texts without understanding it, he confused many facts(e.g. maria, sister of aaron), made many errors concerning grammar, logic, history, science and theology and he used swearwords and curses. Moreover, many passages are so confusing that even today nobody can understand it while claiming that the quran is written in a clear language. What else does it take to convince muslims that the quran was not composed by god but by a false prophet and his followers? Is it that muslims cannot give up their dreams to receive their virgins in paradise? Just imagine how stupid this is. 72 Virgins and anything you want. This is the imagination of a perverted man and it does not have anything to do with wisdom. True wisdom means that people should not desire more than necessary.


Name: akhter
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 03:37:39 -0700

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so much talk of there is this and there is that,mistakes here and there,why did they burn the copies?,there is one in a mosque in Syria, and the best one is that Ali,s goat ate a big chunk of it.BUT the fact is go any where in the world the 70 plus sects in Islam they all carry the ONE and only Quran,i was hoping when reading the above article by the mad DOG Ibn Kamuna that he would help you the poor humanists by giving you the other Quran to bash the Muslims with, instead he and his followers got bashed with the one and only ,the most positive book on earth the last testament for you all , READ it you owe it to yourself and your offspring!!!!


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 07:36:29 -0700

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Akhter, to buttress your argument that the Qur'an is "the most positive book on earth," I have taken it upon myself to find the most positive verse from the Qur'an and post it here. Surely it is also a personal favorite of yours?Please let me know if it is, OK? Here goes: "O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith." (Quran. 5:101-102) This is such a positive affirmation of the need for intellectual honesty and inquiry, I'm shocked that it isn't inscribed on the walls of every school building in the Islamic world.


Name: akhter
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 07:54:21 -0700

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All Creatures of the Sea Lawful to Eat [5:96] All fish of the sea are made lawful for you to eat. During pilgrimage, this may provide for you during your journey. You shall not hunt throughout the pilgrimage. You shall reverence GOD, before whom you will be summoned. [5:97] GOD has appointed the Ka`bah, the Sacred Masjid, to be a sanctuary for the people, and also the Sacred Months, the offerings (to the Sacred Masjid), and the garlands marking them. You should know that GOD knows everything in the heavens and the earth, and that GOD is Omniscient. [5:98] Know that GOD is strict in enforcing retribution, and that GOD is Forgiving, Most Merciful. [5:99] The sole duty of the messenger is to deliver the message, and GOD knows everything you declare and everything you conceal. [5:100] Proclaim: "The bad and the good are not the same, even if the abundance of the bad may impress you. You shall reverence GOD, (even if you are in the minority) O you who possess intelligence, that you may succeed." [5:101] O you who believe, do not ask about matters which, if revealed to you prematurely, would hurt you. If you ask about them in light of the Quran, they will become obvious to you. GOD has deliberately overlooked them. GOD is Forgiver, Clement. [5:102] Others before you have asked the same questions, then became disbelievers therein. [5:103] GOD did not prohibit livestock that begets certain combinations of males and females, nor livestock liberated by an oath, nor the one that begets two males in a row, nor the bull that fathers ten. It is the disbelievers who invented such lies about GOD. Most of them do not understand.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 08:46:57 -0700

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Akhter, thanks for the reply. Any guess as to what were the "same questions" that some folks asked, the answers (or non-answers) to which caused them to become disbelievers? Here is one such questions that I would ask the prophet of Islam: "How can I believe that your revelations from Jibreel aren't in truth the products of your own warped imagination?"....The verse snippet, "If you ask about them in light of the Quran, they will become obvious to you. GOD has deliberately overlooked them. GOD is Forgiver, Clement." Hmm, looks to me like God deliberately overlooks the questions that are asked by people who subsequently become disbelievers, a.k.a., apostates, but then, why this?.....From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam The five major Madh'hab (schools of Islamic jurisprudence) agree that a sane adult male apostate must be executed. A female apostate may either be put to death according to some schools, imprisoned according to others......Conclusion: Muslims may ask questions, and if their questions lead them to disbelief, Allah may forgive them, but they will be killed anyway as apostates. Now THAT'S a religion, by Allah!


Name: Reply to akhter
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 08:54:00 -0700

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Ecerywhere in the Quran it is written that god is omniscient. But why did the author of the quran not know that the earth is sperical? Why did´nt he know that earth is runnig around the sun and not vice versa? Why didn´t he write anything about China, Japan and so many other things? Didn´t he know? And how could he write that ants can talk to humans? Didn´t he know that ants are totally unable to talk to humans? Is it perhaps possible that it was not god who wrote the quran but a handful of ignorant people????


Name: balam
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 11:44:47 -0700

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AKHTAR,I WOULD NOT CALL MOHAMMAD ILLITERATE.HE WAS ACTUALLY A GRADUATE.HE GRADUATED IN ANNUAL HUSBANDRY.HE SUCCEEDED IN LEADING THE ARABS FROM DUSK INTO DARKNESS AND MISLEADING 80% OF HIS NON ARAB FOLLOWERS.WELL DONE MOHAMMAD YOU ARE A STAR FOR YOUR BRAINLESS BELIEVERS.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 12:41:50 -0700

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Nice try, anonymous. Treason (betraying state secrets) is not the same thing as apostasy (changing one's mind about the validity of religious doctrine). Too bad for you as well that the five major Madh'hab agree that a sane adult male apostate must be executed, while a female apostate may either be put to death or imprisoned. Nor does it matter that they ALL might be wrong about apostasy being a capital offense in Islam, because their word is binding, not yours. (Who'd have thought that belonging to a sexist religion would confer this kind of benefit on women?) Finally, Mohammad said, "Baddala deenahu, faqtuluhu." Translation: "If anyone changes his religion, kill him." (cf. Bukhari vol. 9, bk. 84, no. 57). So much for no compulsion in religion, eh?.... Conclusion: you are either ignorant or you are a liar, but now that you know better (one hopes) my advice to you is to quit Islam, because there is no way in hell that it can be reformed by you or anyone else!


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 13:22:59 -0700

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BTW, speaking of Cat Stevens, he supported Khomeini's fatwa against Rushdie, and only much later did he try to retract his comments, an effort that Rushdie called "rubbush." See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens'_comments_about_Salman_Rushdie


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 14:04:33 -0700

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Anonymous wrote, "Finally, can any one hadith suggesting to kill the apostate invalidate all the Qur'anic verses quoted earlier?" Short answer: yes.


Name:
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 16:21:14 -0700

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I liked that section in 'How Islam improves on Christianity' by saying that we should treat slaves nicely. Islam assumes that slavery, like all its premediaeval institution is eternal. This explains why Sudan and Mauretania still retain chattel slavery and it is probable that it is still practiced behind place walls, in Saudi. 'Treating slaves nicely' does not preclude using female slaves as sexual playthings and on the Arabian peninsula this habit has continued with the way female housemaids are treate. Bangladesh has attempted to ban its women from going to theGulf to work because of the absolute certainty that they will be abused by their employe. By the way, 19th century European observers estimated that over 80% of the victims of Arab slave traders died in transit while the death rate for African boys who were castrated ran at about 90%. The Africans had suffered this from Muslims for 1400 years and the Islamic slave trade only ended after military pressure was applied by Christian Europeans. The principles inherent within Christianity meant there was always something disreputable about slavery for many and led to successful presure for its abolition.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 18:19:53 -0700

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Speaking of female slaves, I'm reminded of that enlightened practice known as the clitorectomy, or female genital mutilation. See: http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2400/2428.asp?index=9146&src=news Excerpt: "Among the reasons for the procedure are to ensure that a female is a virgin when she gets married and to reduce the female’s ability to experience sexual pleasure, which decreases the chance of extra-marital affairs." The practice actually predates Islam, well, no, I take that back, since Adam was the first Muslim. Hey, I wonder if he gave Eve a clitorectomy, you know, because she was enjoying her sexuality way too much. Just supposing.


Name: U.K. TODAY.
Date: Sunday February 03, 2008
Time: 19:04:01 -0700

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Akhtar, Is it possible, that you can form an opinion of your own, or quote from something other than that god forsaken book?. - A faulty machine made in a factory - does not realise it is a faulty machine - for that is all it has ever known. - Opinion should not be self-regulated, you should reach out into this world and if your still capable - after all these years of indoctrination - start to form ideas of your own, - instead of returning to seventh century Arabia for the answer to everything in this twenty first century which we inhabit today .


Name: Allah "The Moon God"
Date: Monday February 04, 2008
Time: 04:34:22 -0700

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hello muslims, I was just wondering, if Allah is so powerful and knows everything through pre-destination, how did he not know that Jews and Christians would corrupt his early revelations? If he knew beforehand he would have revealed Islam/The Quran to begin with. I dont think he's as smart as muslims make out to be. Also, if he is so powerful, can he make a rock so large and heavy that he cannot pick it up himself?


Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
Date: Monday February 04, 2008
Time: 10:47:39 -0700

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Hai AKHTER and other impersonating ISLAMISTS/Terrorists/Mussalmans : Akhter - come out of your BURQA and show your ugly Profiteer follower's face. You are ZAKIR NAIK from INDIA - you were propagating your evil ISLAM in USA with all your lies,deception, Taqiyya, dishonesty. Nobody was listening to you. You folded your evil ways in USA and then shifted your traitorous antihuman, evil preachings, hatred, terror,cruel and racist practices of QQURRAN /SHARIA ,to INDIA. The congress led INDIAN govt with it's partners in crime Moslems, commies,missionaries is spineless and allowing the ISLAMISTS to wreak havoc in INDIA . All our true patriotic INDIANS must wake up , think, and act to put an end to this evil cabal of congie-commie-ISLAMO fascist, missionary murderers . ZAKIR NAIK - you belong behind bars for your antinational ,antihuman, murderous cult ISLAMISTS propaganda . Will the INDIAN Govt act to put you and your ilk in the cage where you belong? QQURRAN is the most primitive,cruel, evil,contradictory, slave promoting, sexual,death cult manuel there is. Piss be upon ALLA/MO for making this world a hell becoz of Moslems. No need to so much explanation and discussion about the most primitive manual called QQURRAN and ISLAM.


Name: The Pedophile Muhammad
Date: Monday February 04, 2008
Time: 13:16:51 -0700

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I started reading the filthy quran in the early 1970's. Since then I have read so much hateful islamic garbage - hadith, tafsirs, etc. - I have concluded that: Islam is no religion. Islam is a sick, twisted, satanic death cult. The pedophile muhammad was not a prophet; he was a psychopathic sex pervert who molested a 6 year old baby until he apparently managed to get his pecker in her at the age of 9 when he started raping her. The pedophile muhammad got most of his "revelations" when he needed to justify rapes, murders, raids on innocent villages for war booty, or control his band of thugs. After watching a video of a rabid pack of muslims eating the guts of two Jews they murdered in Ramallah, I am convinced muslims are demon possessed and this "allah" entity they worship is Satan.


Name: akhter
Date: Wednesday February 06, 2008
Time: 05:12:46 -0700

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so we still await the new quran, or shall we make it easier just one chapter than please!!!!


Name: William B eaujeu
Date: Wednesday February 06, 2008
Time: 13:48:39 -0700

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If God is ALL knowing why the verses: 36:38, 39:5, 13:2, 21:33, 35:41, 27:61, 31:10 Which leads to the statement that the earth is FLAT !!! Who is Lying !!! God who Created the Heavens and the Earth !!! The Arch Angel !!! or Muhammad !!! The argument that God is so loving that he did not want to upset Muhammad, and tell him the truth, does NOT hold any water !!!


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Wednesday February 06, 2008
Time: 14:21:59 -0700

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Akhter, here's the new Qur'an, Sura 1:1 "Mohammad was a false prophet, both deceived and deceiving. Believe his testimony at your own peril."


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Wednesday February 06, 2008
Time: 15:14:55 -0700

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I find it quite telling that Islam's holy book can only get as far as the seventh verse before mentioning "those who have deserved wrath," meaning infidels like me who believe that Mohammad was a false prophet, and "the strayers," meaning apostates. Somewhere I read that every twelfth ayatin the Qur'an threatens punishments for disbelievers, both in this life and the afterlife. After a while it gets quite tiresome reading all of the horrible ways that Allah/Mohammad will "get even," as it were.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Wednesday February 06, 2008
Time: 17:39:01 -0700

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Come to think of it, Akhter, why would a Muslim need to ask Allah for guidance "in the right path: [1:7] the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers?" You mean it's possible that Allah would lead people down the wrong path? Why would Allah do such a thing, if Allah is not willing that any should perish? Perhaps Allah wants that some people should perish and be damned and leads them astray on purpose? If THAT is your belief, Akhter, then your Allah and his twisted prophet can go straight back to hell, since that is where they are from!


Name: AKHTER
Date: Thursday February 07, 2008
Time: 01:00:17 -0700

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YOU alone have a choice, ALLLAH,S WAY or the devils way, walk toward ALLAH and ALLAH will run toward you, and the devil ,well you know it well.


Name: Igor the Infidel
Date: Thursday February 07, 2008
Time: 05:56:19 -0700

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Akhter, my suspicion is correct. Allah causes some to go to Hell....74:31 "We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease." And what is the "disease" in the hearts of Christians and Jews? Why, it's the "disease" of refusing to acknowledge that Mohammad is anything more than a FALSE PROPHET!...Here's another gem about Islamic hell: 37:19 "They will say, 'Woe to us! This is the Day of Doom.' Assemble the wrong-doers and their wives and the things they worshipped besides Allah, then lead them to the fierce flaming fires of Hell." It doesn't appear to matter that the wives may be righteous and not wrong-doers, but they get thrown into Hell anyway on account of their husbands.


Name: Walt
Date: Friday February 08, 2008
Time: 13:18:07 -0700

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The Quran,or any Quran for that mater, could not be the Word of God because the god of Islam isn't really the God of the Bible. Even though a lot of people are in denial about the above statment. The truth is that Allah is a false god ,therefore the Quran[any Quran] is a false revelation. Even in a Martial Arts book entitled ASSASSINS! in it's glossary p. 181 it reads "Allah:Pre-Islamic lunar god:god of Islam." Also Reza F. Safa wrote in his book INSIDE ISLAM: EXPOSING AND REACHING THE WORLR OF ISLAM "The cresent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.It is printed on the flags of many Islamic countries and placed on top of minarets and Mosques." page 180,181. The above is also reiterated in more detail in UNHOLY WAR by Ranall Price and WHY I LEFT JIHAD by Walid Shoebat. IT is further proven in the book THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey and the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner. Inshort Allah and the Quran are a hoax.


Name: dayv
Date: Saturday February 09, 2008
Time: 14:45:55 -0700

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Concerning slavery in islam and christianity: it is a lie to say that christianity led to the abolition of slavery by nature. Paul exhorts slaves to obey their masters without complaining, and this and other verses were used by christians to defend slavery for nearly 2000 years! Only when abolition was a popular social movement did people begin to look to the doctrines, not the scriptures, of christianity for support. Also, the muslims took slaves from Africa because the African rulers were the most willing to sell their own people for cheap.


Name: mansoor
Date: Sunday February 10, 2008
Time: 11:08:40 -0700

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man ! I pity you .I shall be praying for you .


Name: millions_sin
Date: Monday February 11, 2008
Time: 22:06:47 -0700

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Only the Qur'an contains a verse that ordered man to kill other human (4:89 They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliyâ’ (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allâh (to Muhammad SAW). But if they turn back (from Islâm), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither Auliyâ’ (protectors or friends) nor helpers from them.). God, as was taught by Jesus Christ in Christianity is a most loving One. I think it is impossible for Him to order people to kill other people. Consider it, does He change after only 600 years? I think it is absurd that God ordered people to kill other people, whatever the reason is. Does He need any help from human, His creatures, to do His Job? No other Holy Books contains such a verse. I think it is Mo's way to prevent people leaving Islam.


Name: ozzymandias
Date: Tuesday February 12, 2008
Time: 17:12:34 -0700

Comment

Can any muslim explain this?Abdullah,Muhammed's father was a pagan who served idols.Muhammed came later to preach about Allah.Abdullah means servant of Allah,then it means Allah was served before Muhammed and Allah is a pagan god!!!Muslims,can u refute this since it is a well documented part of ur history?


Name: M.ROUHAN.F
Date: Wednesday February 13, 2008
Time: 09:28:33 -0700

Comment

Yes infact quran was not written on single book at time of Mohd's death but it was written on leaves, bones etc and there were 22 persons who remembered quran orally. When Usman collected it and wrote it ,it was compared with original text and also by 22 people who remembered quran. Then 'harkat' were addd to it(ie. Alif zair means 'i' and alif zabar 'a' ,not ur example of b) .2)when quran was written on any source(during Mohd's life time) it was brought to MOHD and his wife used to read in front of him and he(mohd) used to check it. 3)ALLAH SAYS IN QURAN "VERLY I HAVE SENT DOWN THIS dhikr (QURAN) AND I WILL GUARD IT FROM CORRUPTION"


Name: XXX
Date: Wednesday February 13, 2008
Time: 09:53:22 -0700

Comment

The answer to ur question that quran say Mary as sister of haron is that in this verse word "akhon" which also means decendent, and its correct translation is decendant of haron. Visit www.irf.net


Name: Khurram
Date: Thursday February 14, 2008
Time: 00:01:07 -0700

Comment

QURAN is a mirecale of GOD ,just contact all over the world to any muslim by phone or by mail or by sms or by any other way and ask from any muslim to read for you or send you any part of QURAN and you should have a QURAN with you and not a single word diffrence you will find from all over the world in ONE QURAN.the seven books are just seven different ways to read ONE QURAN because muslims enjoy to read QURAN. and arabi language is not like english(variations of vowels).


Name: Khurram
Date: Thursday February 14, 2008
Time: 00:33:24 -0700

Comment

any one from the whole world can contact me at [email protected] and ask me to send from ONE QURAN(30 parts and 114 soorats).Just take a QURAN from nearest shop or muslim centre (mosque) or from any muslim near you or from any muslim website and just send me the name of soorat and no. of sentence (ayat).and i wll send you the same wich will proof you that there is only ONE QURAN in the world "BUT FIRST ASK FROM GOD {{Show us the straight way,{PART 1,SOORAT 1,AYAT 5}}


Name: Khan
Date: Thursday February 14, 2008
Time: 11:35:01 -0700

Comment

brother,First of all you are mistaken.Quran does not contain the revelations of Muhammed(PBUH) its the word of ALLAH,and no one else.Quran was given to prophet Mohammed in different parts,and if it was given to only him then how can it be different from any other as there was always only 1 version sent on earth.You will nowhere get a different Quran unless you are been tricked bye enemies of islam. If you ever visit an islamic country(middle east) buy a quran.i assure you it will be the real one.


Name: khan to -The Pedophile & igor
Date: Thursday February 14, 2008
Time: 12:16:06 -0700

Comment

wow, u guys dont like islam,fine ,keep it to yourself..u dont have to critisise it..nobody calls your relegion names or your relegious books any names.i m sure your life is miserable right now if not soon it will get..BELEIVE ME!!..you dont like the truth then thats your problem...or may be you are not mature enough to understand and handle the truth....STOP before you end up destroying ur life and death. pedophile,,you are defenitely a LOSER..maybe because your mom or dad used to molest you or something, you do sound like a guy with a HORRIBLE childhood.


Name: M.ROUHAN.F
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 05:32:04 -0700

Comment

The revelation of the scripture whereof there is on doubt that it is from lord of world . They say Muhammed hath invented it. NO it is the truth from lord,that you may warn A folk to whom no warner came before.


Name: NN (Sorry, to be negative to Islam is too dangerous to tell one's name.
Date: Thursday March 20, 2008
Time: 23:15:05 -0700

Comment

In the book "1ooo mistakes in the Quran" (It really points to more than 1ooo places with real mistakes in the Quran)- and also in others like Ibn Warraq "Why I am not a Muslim" - it is mentioned that each of the 7 you mention, existed in 2 varieties = 14 (not 7). It should also be mentioned that when a Quran was copied, and the copyist had more than one original (f. ex. one not from Uthman), which did he copy which verse from? - there may be reasons why he thought one variety was better than the other.


Name: Oliver North
Date: Saturday August 23, 2008
Time: 13:12:27 -0700

Comment

This may be a little by the side, but if you look for the mistakes in the Quran, try [email protected]


 
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