Killed for Missing Prayers
Jihadis Follow in the Footsteps of Muhammad
05 May, 2008
Pakistan's Daily Times reports that the members of Lashkar-e-Islam (literally 'Army of Islam') shot dead a man, standing near a Mosque at the time of prayer, who refused to come inside for praying when ordered to do so by the mujahideen. The newspaper reports:
Activists of the Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) killed a man in Sarband Police Station jurisdiction on Saturday, police said. Sources within the police told Daily Times that Mukarram, son of Asadullah, was chastised by LI men for not offering Asr prayers and standing outside a mosque. When Mukarram told the men that it was his personal matter, the LI men shot him dead.
This may sound barbaric and cruel, but for a committed Jihadi, it is a matter of principle and pride, and following the commands of Islam. Using violence for enforcing prayers upon the faithful is a pious commandment in Islam, which was recommended by the favorite and final prophet of Allah.
First, children are to be beaten if they refuse to pray after they reach the age of 10:
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book-2 Book 2, Number 0495:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately.
Then Allah's final Prophet offers the following advice here:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 11, Number 626:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."
So, by the standards that the Prophet preached the above Jihadi must be considered
to be practicing somewhat of a 'moderate' Islam, because he only
murdered the man refusing to pray, but did not burn his house down too.
Probably if the relatives lodge a police complaint they could expect
the balance of the prophetic prescription.
Howsoever cruel and horrific the murder in question may appear by civilized standards, the Jihadis are indoctrinated to believe it to be an act of righteousness. They believe their deeds to be good (by the standards Islam sets), which reminds us of the atheist philosopher Steven Weinberg's famous quote:
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Muhammad exhorted his followers to attack non-believers and to subdue them for making his dogma supreme. The Qur'an presents this hateful incitement of violence against non-believers as good and as the ultimate message of God to the Muslims to follow:
[Following is quoted from the The Noble Quran, distributed for free by the Saudi Embassy's around the world, published by the King Fahd Complex For The Printing Of The Holy Qur'an - the author got his copy free from the Saudi Embassy in Singapore]
Page 248:
Qur'an 9:28
Oh you who believe (in Allah's Oneness and in His Messenger Muhammad saw)! Verily, the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolators, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, and in the message of Muhammad saw) are Najasun (impure)[1]. So let them not come near Al-Masjidal-Haram (at Makkah) after this year; and if you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you if He wills, out of His Bounty. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
[1] The footnote states that their impurity is both spiritual and
physical, because they lack personal hygiene (filthy as regards
urine, stools and blood).
My notes:
a) Even now the Islamic policy of not allowing impure kafirs to visit Makkah and Madina is to this very day enforced by the Saudi Govt.
b) Enriching out of Allah's Bounty refers to the new income to be had by Muhammad and his followers from attacking, enslaving, robbing non-Believers, i.e. the spoils to be had from Jihad.
Qur'an 9:29
Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah[2] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
[2] Footnote reads:
a) see footnote of 2:193 which reads: Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that La ilaha illallah wa Anna Muhammmad-ur-Rasul Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle), and perform As-salat (Iqamat-as-salat) and give Zakat, so if they perform all that, then they save their lives, and properties from me except for Islamic laws, and then their reckoning (accounts) will be with (done by Allah."b) Narrated Abu Hurairah: Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight against the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4, Hadith No 177)
c) Jizyah: a tax levied from the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians), who are under the protection of a Muslim government.
A few pages later in the very same King Fahd published Qur'an (p253) the Hadith above about burning people to death for not attending prayers is approvingly quoted. I hope readers can make the clear connection between these hateful teachings and the actions of the Jihadis.
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Note: This version of the Qur'an published by the munificence of King Fahd (all of our petrol purchases go towards it too) is available online also here
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Name: vbv
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 04:07:26 -0700
Comment
Murdering for not praying is the lowest depths of bigotry, and that is 'Islam'. It is a cult that keeps its flock together by terrorising them to comply with all their stupid and idiotic rituals like praying 5 times, going to Mecca on 'haj', murdering infidels and raping their women, etc. That is the cult of the Arabian barbarians who invented a so-called religion, which is actually a criminal cult!
Name: What Jesus taught about prayer!
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 04:09:47 -0700
Comment
(6) His disciples questioned him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?" Jesus said, "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." Quote from the Gospel of Thomas, http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
Name: Fed up with Islam
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 06:35:36 -0700
Comment
Islam hates scrutiny, therefore its false. I once read Profit Muhammad once contemplated suicide, if so i wish i could hop in a time machine to 7th Century Arabia and help him do it. Just think how many people that would have saved. Think how many Jews it would have saved. As well as pagans, Christians, and millions more.
Name: Ibn Kammuna
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 07:34:49 -0700
Comment
Those criminals are no more than thugs who succumbed to an imperialist prejudist ignorant arab who was born 1400 years ago. he was no more than a piece of "something". Many lives are being lost because of him everyday. If there is islamic hell after life, I am sure he is toasting in there nicely. Peace to all.
Name:
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 08:25:07 -0700
Comment
The most hated belief system the world has ever seen. Hated for good reason
Name: Challenge to infidels from Akhter
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 09:10:52 -0700
Comment
I challenge all infidels to write even half a verse like Quran. Try 33.50" Mohammed you can have sex with your wives, right hand posessions, first cousins and any woman who offers herself to you".
Name: al
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 10:29:55 -0700
Comment
Now that "Challenge to infidels from Akhter" is in our midst, the real Akhter seems to have faded away. I wonder why he has nothing to say to counter this imposter.
Name: How many Allahs???
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 13:31:52 -0700
Comment
036.077 YUSUFALI: Doth not man see that it is We (!!!) Who created him from sperm? 023.014 YUSUFALI: Then We (!!!) made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We (!!!) made a (foetus) lump; then we (!!!)made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we (!!!)developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create! If there is only one Allah and no one else, why does he say "We"??? Who are the others??? And why this confusion? Isn´t it a sin to accompany anybody to Allah??? BTW Sperm CANNOT turn into clot and no living creature will ever derive from clot because this is impossible. So I think we can declare that the quran is one of the most confusing books ever written!!! Why should god confuse us???
Name: Challenge to all infidels from Akhter
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 13:43:28 -0700
Comment
Can you write a verse comparable to even a part of a quranic aya. Try part of 4.34" If you fear disobedience from one of your wives scourge (whip) her".
Name: TO ALL GODLESS PEOPLE, Is there an opening page better than this????
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 13:51:12 -0700
Comment
Surah 1. The Opening 1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. 2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds; 3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful; 4. Master of the Day of Judgment. 5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek. 6. Show us the straight way, 7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
Name: HOW MANY ALLAHS, ONE YOU DUMMY!!!
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 15:10:31 -0700
Comment
WE, IN EASTERN LANGUAGES IS A PLURAL FOR RESPECT,OR THE ROYAL PLURAL.I HOPE THAT GOT THROUGH TO YOUR THICK HEAD.
Name: pmk
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 15:11:37 -0700
Comment
Children are to be beaten if they refuse to pray. Men and women can have their homes burned down if they don't answer the call to prayer. I thought Mohammed said "there is no compulsion in religion". How do Muslims reconcile the two?
Name: I HOPE THIS IS NOT TRUE.
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 15:50:36 -0700
Comment
Will Muslims rule the world? Gabriel's words to Muhammad foretell that Islam will spread worldwide and conquer all other religions. The message is found in Surah 48:28 and 61:9, which are translated into English as follows: "He it is Who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the true religion that He may make it prevail over all the religions; and Allah is enough for a witness" (Surah 48:28). "He it is Who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the true religion, that He may make it overcome the religions, all of them" (Surah 61:9).
Name: to HOW MANY ALLAHS, ONE YOU DUMMY!!!
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 16:50:39 -0700
Comment
This is new to me, I did not know that 7th century ARABIC language used WE for respect. South east asian languages yes. You have been fooled by your Arabic masters. Maybe it's time you learn Arabic yourselves.
Name: Kali Politeis
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 17:54:25 -0700
Comment
Islam is the cruelest, most barbaric and ugliest religious system ever devised by mankind. It needs to be put in the garbage ASAP. It is a disgrace that any person in the Free World and in his right mind would possibly defend this demented cult of evil. See this scary site: http://islamwatchers.blogspot.com
Name: STUPID SLAVES OF ALLAH
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 18:03:50 -0700
Comment
"WE, IN EASTERN LANGUAGES IS A PLURAL FOR RESPECT,OR THE ROYAL PLURAL.I HOPE THAT GOT THROUGH TO YOUR THICK HEAD." It doesn't matter - Allah is still a false and demonic "god," so get over it.
Name: Ananda
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 18:46:46 -0700
Comment
Harvard U. is having a panel discussion on "The Threat of Totalitarian Islam" on May 6. I expect the "non-Totalitarian" Muslims will participate in the panel discussions and claim how Islam is a peaceful religion and how they are outraged that Islam has been hijacked. Instead of being centers of research and learning, Universities has become panderers of political activism. I am guessing, Harvard U. is recipient of big donations from the Saudi's.
Name: Juniper
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 22:40:52 -0700
Comment
Some of those hadiths are fabricated! Muslims are not obligated to pray five times a day until they reach the age of 12. Please do NOT mix extremism with Islam.
Name: Juniper
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 22:50:22 -0700
Comment
There is NO compulsion in Islam. People are free to follow whatever religion they want. I know a fabricated hadith when I see one. You have posted some fabricated hadiths that are totally unfounded. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Did not order to kill people, burn people's houses or burn people for not praying or attending prayer!! That is false.
Name: Anti-Religion
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 23:14:12 -0700
Comment
OK - best way: Dismiss banned islam Dismiss banned christianity Dismiss banned judaism All those 3 are fragile open-interpreted doctrines which dynamically can change according to who interprets it and which stupid and smart who follows it. If you want better life in future, these 3 extreme religious doctrine-seeds must be banned, all followers must be exiled into 1 compartmentalized-place to let them fight each other including their various versions of singular god and their angels. They can shoot at each other if nobody follows their orders to pray at exactly time of prayer. Then you will have peace and harmony. Outside of that compartmentalized-place, nobody will do more violence in the name of god, then go home wash their hands and proclaim god is great, god is beautiful, god is cool, god allows me to kill but forgive my sin, tomorrow I will do it again, if I do in his name I am on his political party's grand line of order.
Name: Ian deMontfort
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 23:18:54 -0700
Comment
I find all religion, especially Monotheistic based religions completely backward thinking, if not completely absurd. Murder is wrong. Religion is mind control and God is dead! What is it that makes people so stupid and less than human? Love is what sets us free. Not some books called the Qur'an, or another called the Bible. But if your a robot, then I guess you will not understand.
Name: Muhammad was a Thief!
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 23:35:08 -0700
Comment
Muhammad was a thief, a liar, a paedophile, and a murderer. It's all there in the Hadith.
Name:
Date: Monday May 05, 2008
Time: 23:54:17 -0700
Comment
The worst societies on earth are all muslim. There has never been a successful muslim society and never will be. Wherever muslims go, they contribute nothing positive, they only contribute hatred, misery, fear and death.
Name: peace to all
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 00:46:06 -0700
Comment
Waco tx mount carmel reminder Oklahoma the federal building I gusse in every group of people there are extremist, so these so called muslim who killed an human for not praying is extremist now who crossfid Jesus? and who burned gased and shout the jews in Germany stop reading trash like the ubove story you want to read go read the soures then judge..peace everyone
Name: Re: HOW MANY ALLAHS, ONE YOU DUMMY!!!
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 00:48:43 -0700
Comment
But if Allah claims his oneness, why should he create so much confusion by using a grammatical construction made by humans and call himself "WE"??? For example, Islam critisizes the Trinity and wrongly asserts that it is polytheism. However, Trinity means only that there are three aspects of god. There also 99 names of god in Islam which refers to as many aspects. But if somebody says "we, the only oneness" than he might cause confusion. Anyway, I do not care that much about the definition of god. God can´t be defined, it´s beyond any definition.
Name: Kate
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 01:18:08 -0700
Comment
Where there is no God, there is Islam....
Name: R. Webb
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 05:42:20 -0700
Comment
Religion of peace, my ass. This will be the Earth's undoing. These backwater fanatics kill and maim children and foreigners with impunity. Wait and see... WW3 will be fought for exactly these reasons.
Name: daeran J Gall
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 07:18:12 -0700
Comment
i have heard of christians killing for power, money and sex. whats our murder rate.? ( do we include innocent casualties)
Name: peace to all
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 07:20:27 -0700
Comment
Waco tx mount carmel reminder Oklahoma the federal building I gusse in every group of people there are extremist, so these so called muslim who killed an human for not praying is extremist now who crossfid Jesus? and who burned gased and shout the jews in Germany stop reading trash like the ubove story you want to read go read the soures then judge..peace everyone, Ps:- look and read how much hatered you all have, wake up stop being driven by media, people are the same anywhere.
Name: A Real Jew
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 09:55:31 -0700
Comment
"Think how many Jews it would have saved. As well as pagans, Christians, and millions more." Holocaust was the fault of Muslims? Inquisition too? Crusades as well? Christianity is the real barbaric religon over 1.2 million dead in Iraq all because Jesus told his Messiah George Bush Iraq had WMD's. I wish I could go back in time and help Paul kill Jesus before the mad magician autobiographed the New Testement 70 years after his death.
Name: Re: A real jew?
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 10:19:12 -0700
Comment
Christianity didn't become violent until is was adopted by the Roman Empire (i.e. a government, 300 years after its creation) FACT! It was NOT founded on the sword like Islam was. Jesus did not kill, raid, rape, and force conversion like Muhammad did. Islam was violent from the start. Anyway, ask your fellow Jew's in Israel about the benevolent and peaceful muslims that live around them, you tool!
Name: agnostic
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 10:42:28 -0700
Comment
you lot are just as bad as the fanatics you rant about. vermin come in all shapes and colours.
Name: Ananda
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 10:55:15 -0700
Comment
To Juniper: I wish all other religions would do the "NO Compulsion in Islam" to Islam now as Islam did to them in the past when it had the power to do so. There is a limit to tolerating the nasty cult.
Name: Bill Kennedy
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 11:44:13 -0700
Comment
I'm just waiting for full disclosure about the presence of E.T.'s and advanced civilizations. Only then will Muslums and Christians alike realize that it's all been one big scam. 2012 can't get here fast enough for me.
Name: Folcrom
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 17:55:20 -0700
Comment
Having read and studied the Holy Qur'an, among many other Holy Books that I have studied, I can confidently say the following: The statement - (Islam = Peace) is a blatent lie. The truth is - (Islam = Slavery) The only peace anyone will find in Islam, is the peace brought about from being a subdued slave. Folcrom Tafazah.
Name: Munna
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 19:37:28 -0700
Comment
Folcrom...you made a good and informative point. Islam does mean submission, but it means submission to God. All human beings submit to one thing or another,be it other humans, stones, trees, cows, booze etc. Muslims prefer to submit to Allah(God) alone.
Name: disgusted
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 19:45:47 -0700
Comment
Mohamed "may he burn in hell forever" started a religion which was made for Arab goat herders, suppressing woman and non believers. This is well known, however most Moslem's are brainwashed from the time they are borne. The only way to stop this atrocities is to outlaw all of the more hateful teachings of Mohamed "may he burn in hell forever" the child molester and pedophile. Best regards
Name: Munna
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 20:01:33 -0700
Comment
...and where did you receive your PhD in Islamic Studies 'disgusted'?
Name: Ken
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 20:22:30 -0700
Comment
The devious jewish neo-cons who have orchestrated this whole conflict must be laughing all the way to the bank at the stupidity of gullible white xtians who worship all things jewish and israeli. White sheeple! It's not muslims who brought us unchecked immigration, multiculturalism, pornography, feminism, bolshevism and wars for profit and israel. The jews spawned these 3 blind faiths which are incompatible with western reason. They pulled off the greatest scam by making spiritual cripples believe that a dead jew rabbi is their god and his people the chosen for whom xtian fools are obligated to die in wars against nations like Iraq which never attacked us. Now the jews are gearing up the boobs for an even greater conflagration against Syria and Iran. Israel and the jewish lobby laugh at goyim (cattle) such as yourselves spooked my the muslim boogeymen.
Name: infidel
Date: Tuesday May 06, 2008
Time: 23:02:05 -0700
Comment
"The Hour will not be established until you fight against the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4, Hadith No 177) This sentence clearly shows that Mo-ham-med was having an unrational mind. How can a stone say anything? I am sure, that no holy books of other religion ever tell an ordinary stone that speaks. Its only in fables. Mo hated Jews because Jews in Medina didn't accept him as a true prophet, but considered him as fake. with Quran contains fables. Dzul-qar-nain or Alexander the Great considered as an ancient prophet. In fact, he was a pagan. So Islam is pagan.
Name: Crazy Is as Crazy Does
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 03:42:01 -0700
Comment
All religions are irrational, but Islam must surely be the craziest. Catholicism isn't far behind but at least the Church gave up killing people in the name of God. Anyone who thinks any kind of God would approve of murder -- for any reason -- is out of his mind. Those thugs belong in prison, obviously.
Name: Emran Bin Sulaiman
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 07:34:25 -0700
Comment
What does " there is no compulsion in Islam" means?
Name: pmk
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 09:23:24 -0700
Comment
Juniper, if the hadiths that mandate killing people for leaving Islam are false, then why haven't Muslims said so? Why did people who converted to Christianity in just the last few years have to leave Islamdom in fear for their lives? Why do Muslim fathers kill their daughters who even look as if they might leave Islam? In short, why aren't those many "peaceful Muslims" we are told exist speaking loudly to those who preach Islamic supremacy? Actions speak louder than words. The only action is coming from the violent side.
Name: pmk
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 09:30:56 -0700
Comment
Juniper: a postscript. In his later years Mohammed also decreed that Arabia should have but one religion: Islam. Try as you might, you can't ignore the Koran. Many of us did, for a long time. We no longer have that luxury. The many Muslims who claim they are not all that observant and shouldn't be judged by what the extremists do need to pick a side. The extremists claim theirs is the true Islam. Your silence on that suggests that you are with them. If they are wrong, you need to speak loudly and often. If Hamas and Hezbollah and the Taliban are the true Muslims and theirs is the true Islam then over one billion Muslims need to renounce the faith. If Hamas and company are the ones who are wrong then those billion Muslims need to stop supporting them and need to renounce them and everything they stand for. There is no room for neutrality. Pick a side. We're waiting.
Name: munna
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 22:46:27 -0700
Comment
In response to infidel's question, a few decades ago,maybe a century ago, people might have asked how can a box talk or show people/images...but now we have radios and TVs. I just gave you an example of how things change in a short period of time. That's how stones will talk, we are still too technologically behind to even fathom the idea of stones talking.
Name: peace to all
Date: Wednesday May 07, 2008
Time: 23:42:47 -0700
Comment
To Munna love you thoughts and point of view but only someone with brains would understand you,what i am writing here is very clear who is to say that jesus made a bird like and in the name of Alah he made it fly, so these people that write the notes want some attention that's all, Waco tx mount carmel reminder Oklahoma the federal building I gusse in every group of people there are extremist,
Name: pmk
Date: Thursday May 08, 2008
Time: 06:00:06 -0700
Comment
"reminder Oklahoma the federal building I gusse in every group of people there are extremist," No argument there. We also don't excuse their actions. So what are Muslims doing about the extremists in their own group, hmm? (And Munna, thanks for the laugh! Your attempts at equivocation are always amusing. Great way to start the day.)
Name: Mr. J
Date: Thursday May 08, 2008
Time: 13:36:23 -0700
Comment
And the LORD God said: 'Behold, the man is become as one of US, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.' Genesis. 3:22
Name: Juniper
Date: Thursday May 08, 2008
Time: 19:13:12 -0700
Comment
When I said that there is no compulsion in Islam, I mean that people are allowed to follow whatever religion they want. Muslims can't force their religion onto others. It is their own choice on what they want to follow. Just because there are a lot of bad people on earth of any race and religion doesn't take away the TRUTH from a religion. Islam is the truth. Truth will always stand out from error. There can be on good Muslim left on this earth and Islam will still be the truth! Learn and educate yourselves-imranhosein.org
Name: Juniper
Date: Thursday May 08, 2008
Time: 19:14:49 -0700
Comment
There can be one good Muslim left on this Earth and Islam will still be the truth. People need to wake up and start seeing the bigger picture.
Name: Juniper
Date: Thursday May 08, 2008
Time: 21:58:29 -0700
Comment
Let me rephrase what I intended to say. In ISLAM there is no compulsion in religion. Meaning people are free to follow whatever they choose. Muslims can't force Islam on other people. As for spanking (meaning light spanking) this is all symbolic) a child if he doesn't start praying, that is important because it is better to do that than to let the child go astray and not pray.
Name: peace to all
Date: Friday May 09, 2008
Time: 00:24:59 -0700
Comment
juniper & pmk and munna are the type of people that I am thankfull for the are open and simpl no hate or anger and it shows that they read and understand how to pick the truth now pmk in islam it said if you can change someone from bad to good do it by asking if it dose not work by advise and if it dose not work then ask god all mighty to help that person to see the light in the end of the path and please believe me a lot of muslim condem such an act because it is wrong even to think about not less to do it
Name: Humanist
Date: Saturday May 10, 2008
Time: 03:38:48 -0700
Comment
Jesus and Muhammed were messengers of the DEVIL. Mother Mary was for surely, a bitch. Forget everything and search for peace in this world. Jesus, in his Bible said that "Do as many crime you want, but O you, Abide me and your crimes are forbidden", "A Christian must sell all his clothes, even survive Naked, in order to buy a sword, to spread the might of Jesus and Chistianity" etc. etc. Is that a religion? Now, neither less than this is the Islam! That son of a bitch Mohammad...In Quran, 60% of the Ayats are full of Harsh statements and Devel speeches by this so called Allah"! Therefore Guys, try searching for something better! See ya!
Name: SBA
Date: Sunday June 01, 2008
Time: 21:24:48 -0700
Comment
It sure is sad that all of these ignorant brothers and sisters still believe in hadith's written 100's of years after the glorious prophet died..and attribute the sayings to the prophet...how that even possible when Allah clearly has given us a book that is COMPLETE!! Easy owners manual...where does it say in the Quran that dogs are haram? Where does it say in the Quran that women should not pray during their periods? That's why the NORMAL world HATES our religion because of idiots that wrote the hadith's and the idiots YOU and ME that follow them!! Wake UP muslims We must save our religion and educate our children by the using the Quran not hadith's!!!
Name: Juniper
Date: Friday June 06, 2008
Time: 19:01:40 -0700
Comment
SBA there are Hadiths that are true and there are a lot of hadiths that are fabricated. It is up to everyone to do research and try to learn which ones are true and which ones aren't. The Hadiths that are true teach a lot of how the prophet (pbuh) lived and how the people lived. The true Hadiths also have things God has said to the prophet that were not in the Quran. The Hadith is supplemental to the Quran.