India needs a new anti-Islamofascist, anti-Hindutva political front
09 Jan, 2008
- It is an open secret that all major political parties in India except one or two have a pro-Islamofascist agenda. The parties, which aren’t pro-Islamofascist, have a pro-Hindutva agenda. Hindu fascism might be bit better than Islamofascism, but what 21st century India needs is a truly secular democracy.
- People of India are caught between the devil and the sea. The choice is between Islamofascism and Hindu fascism. Indian media actively educate people the dangers of Hindu fascism. The same media, in the name of secularism, propagate Islamofascism.
- Some 82% of the Indian population consists of Hindus. Media has very deceitfully taken away the pride from the Hindus. A Hindu is made to believe that his/her religion is very inferior to other religions. Hindu fascists exploit this situation quite effectively. They simply reverse the process. With fiery speeches, Hindu fascists try to instill some pride among the Hindus.
- The whole affair has made Hindus appear like clowns before the world. They have proven before the whole world that they are spineless when they parted 33% of their land to 15% of the population [mainly Muslims] during partition of the country in 1947.
- The Hindu fascists on the other hand have a spine but have a 12th-century outlook. In India it is difficult to find a Hindu who has a 21st century outlook, and at the same time, opposes Islamofascism.
- In any democracy, when existing political parties don’t rise up to the expectations of the people, new parties do spring up. India will also witness the birth of new political parties within less than a decade if the present parties don’t change their policies.
- The congress-led pro-Islamofascist front should leave their minority appeasement and should work towards true secularism. This is very unlikely to happen. Throughout the history, congress has been a spineless Muslim-appeasing party.
- The second option is that the BJP should shed its Hindutva image and become an anti–Islamofascist party. A party needn’t be Hindu fascist to become anti-Islamofascist. BJP should realize that we are living in 21st century. BJP should be willing to accept modernization with both hands. India is the second fastest growing economy in the world. Middle class as well as the upper middle class has greatly benefited from this.
- The newfound wealth has drawn the Indian population towards western culture. The influence of western culture is evident in Indian film industry as well as Indian satellite television channels. India has got the fourth largest English speaking population in the world.
- BJP should give up their hatred towards western culture. It is a policy of the BJP to impose Indian culture on the Indians. If the Indian youth opt for western culture to Indian culture, BJP should accept it as a matter of fact. India has got more than 50 million Christians. BJP should give up the hatred towards Christians. They should engage all other minority religious groups, the Christians, Sikhs, and Buddhists, in the fight against Islamofascism. These should the dreams of all well-meaning Indians, since all these groups will be the loser if Islamofascists become the winner.
- The Congress party will never change the policy of minority appeasement. It won’t be easy for the BJP to become a truly modernist secular but anti-Islamofascist party either. In a multi-party democracy people can’t be taken for a ride for a long time. A third front, a truly secular and liberal democratic party, has got some space here which it should capitalize on.
- Name: antimod
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 07:08:16 -0700
Comment
The writer lives in a fool's paradise when she writes hindus think their religion inferior to her islam. The hindu always respected other religions as well. But the advent of idolators destroyed this myth. Yet they have got along with them the muslims for too long. True secularism and islam cannot go together. The writer has not made a comprehensive study of her own book and is obviously fed by mullas or such bigots like Dr Zakir Naik. If she does so she will leave it without a wink. India cannot remain untouched by the world wide uprising of Islamists and tacit acceptance of the so called moderate muslims of islamic terrorism.They perhaps think that in the end the terrorism will succeed and they will be the beneficiaries. If I am right then they still live a fool's paradise. If the muslims want to live in a truly secular way then they will have to abrogate all those verses in Quran and the Hadith which advocates killing of people in the name of Allah. Stop calling nonmuslims kafirs, Respect human rights of other coreligionists. But that is not to happen. Forget hindus, tell me one religion with which the muslims live in peace ? Islam forbids it. Ample evidences have been put forward bY Mr Ali Sina. Read all of them carefully. You muslims cannot get along with such peaceful people like Bhuddhists. Look at Thailand. What has become of that country. When a lamp runs out of oil it burns vigorously before it extinguishes.Islam is burning vigorously, wait for your time Islam will sing the proverbial swan song.
- Name: antimod
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 07:27:06 -0700
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Read "abu kasim - an apostate speaks " in this very column.Then decide whether sucularism with Islam will survive. Muslims of India are uneducated and duds. Thats why they are easily befooled by the Congress. The congress & other socalled secularists think that people can be befooled by their slogans. Elections in two states has given them a good taste what falsehood means. They resort to dubious means like pulling down a democratically elected govt, the moment a state goes against them they resort to machinate communal riots. They are very clever, they leave no evidence behind so that people think that the ruling non congress govt is not handling the law and order situation and call for president rule. If muslims wish to live happily with hindus then they must give up their belligerent attitude, help the govt in apprehending terrorists and stop giving shelter to them. Without any local help the terrorists cannot strike. And follow my suggestions I wrote in my previous comment.
- Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 11:15:21 -0700
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SHABANA MUHAMMAD seems ( as she is apparantly from a Moslem background - to have lot of ISLAMISM absorbed, lot of prejudice,lot of bias, lot of untruth absolutely,lot of evil propaganda and she may be compared roughly to Benazir BHUTTO - a true MOSLIMAH with a facade to oppose ISLAMISM and ISLAMOFASCISM. Obviously for any truth to come out you need to examine the basic values,basic tenets, past ,present history of a country,people,religion,society ,culture,education etc. Ms. SHABANA is shamelessly assuming everything without any truth with her preverse thinking which is by the way a characteristic of ISLAMISTS. At the moment or any time time in history INDIA - because of HINDUS and Hindu values,principles,philosophy,ethos, morals, remained the most liberal,democratic,secular,freedom,peace loving country . It is amazing to see that how these ISLAMISTS - including SHABANA resort to deceit and dishonesty,without conscience. INDIA is like no other country in the world . Later we will post point by point rejoinder bringing out truth. In 1000 years , during approximately between 10 th century until 19 th century INDIA /Hindus were the biggest losers in land and population ,conversions . Biggest gainers,profiteers ,plunderers,colonialists,imperialists,slave drivers, looters,rapists,killers,murderers were ISLAMISTS and Christianity . For 1000 yrs INDIA was a slave country under foreign rule with all her honor,values,ethos,principles were torned,tormented,tortured, murdered,pillaged,raped,massacred . And the people of INDIA were subjected to unspeakable atrocities ,brutalities,deprivation,insults,abuse . Mr. William warner ,director of the center for the study of political ISLAM - estimated that about 80 million HINDUS were butchered in INDIA, by ISLAMIC rulers during their rule . INDIA was reduced to shambles and people were so much devastated and became like orphans in their own houses ,in their own country. Will DURANT the American historian wrote that the most bloodiest saga of ISLAMIC rule in INDIA is unprecedented in annals of human history.
- Name: U.K. TODAY.
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 15:13:48 -0700
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Re: To all Muslims out there. --- Whether they be past or present. --- Could I, as a non Muslim please ask one or two questions about the Quran, as I am becoming some what confused by Islamic scholars interpretations of what is and isn't written. --- Firstly, Why do Islamic scholars imitate the words of the Quran instead of, (as is the case in other religions) Interpret its teachings into modern day rationale?. --- (2) Islamic monotheism; If the Quran (through the words of Mohammad) affirms the fact that Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship THE SAME GOD, then why do Muslims consider themselves better than "PIGS AND APES?". (3) ---- Continuing on from my last question, How did gods name become Allah among the Muslim multitudes?. And does his name matter anyway?. (4) If the Torah, (Judaism) came first - followed by the bible, (Christianity) -- and as Islam likes to put it, the Quran was the final installment of this almighty trilogy, why (if we are spiritual) must we "read" the Torah and bible, yet "recite" the quran?. Is it possible the word "recite" was introduced by Mohammad himself on account that he was illiterate?. Please understand, I am not trying to score points here - I'm just reading - thinking - and trying to make sense of what puzzles me at heart!!!. My final question is as such; If God/Allah is the unquestionable Omnipotence for all three faiths, and the first prophet to receive his wisdom was Abraham, followed by Jesus, (both Jews,) both revered men in the Quran. Then why do Muslims seek to purge the religion of David from the face of the planet?. The more I read, the more I struggle to pinpoint logic to my questions. Can anyone out there theorize and answer my points?. Yours Hopefully.
- Name: Jagmohan Singh Khurmi
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 18:59:51 -0700
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You are doing the usual, typical, worn-out mistake. There is nothing like hindu-fascism. The imaginary non-existent "hindutava" you are showing is result of Islamic and pseudo secularism propogonda muslims are spinning. Don't put Hinduism and Islamism in same pocket.
- Name: Jagmohan Singh Khurmi
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 19:35:30 -0700
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The person who wrote this article is Hindutva-ist herself ! ( though she is not aware of this fact ) This website is Hindutva website, so is faithfreedom.org ! Ali Sina, Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasreen are hindutavaists. Hindutva is nothing but an intelletual movement to expose Islam and Christianity, the politicol ideologies pretending to be religions...
- Name: vbv
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 21:59:00 -0700
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Hindutva is not a fascist terminology like islam. Hinduism does not propogate hate for other religions. It is an all-inclusive philosophy recognizing spirituality piety and righteousness in any form of worship/belief. It is not an exclusivist dogma - "you are sinners/infidels and shall be consigned to eternal fire/hell if you are not a muslims/christian and not believe in Jesus?Mohamad?Allah?Yahweh?" It is not a prosyletising type of religion. It allows every person to explore his/her inner conscience / mind to achieve spirituality. You can employ yoga,meditation,devotional chanting,or simply by being a good person with righteousness,compassion to all living-beings,kindness,humane-ness and good conduct ( not the barbaric and uncivilized ways and sheer savagery and cruelty of the islamists),etc. Above all there is freedom of choice to worship in any manner/or form . There is absolute freedom to disbelieve GOD - you can be an atheist and still be a hindu , because the emphasis is on being a morally good and righteous person and not merely belief in a dogma- that is the wonderful principle of the doctrine called "Karma"! BJP is not against the West but is certainly against the subtle and covert ways of imposing christianity and debunking Indian culture through seemingly innocuous things like 'valentines day',friendship day ,mother's day etc. while respecting father,mother,brother,sister teacher is innate in our culture that we don't need lessons on these matters from the West! Even today a child in India touches the feet of their parents and elders to seek their blessings that we don't need to have a father's day , mother's day etc. to remind us of the affection and respect due to them.That's hindutva ,not hate, convert or murder to conform to some useless dogma of heaven as a reward for belief and hell as a punishment for disbelief! Shabana Muhamad ,living in the West , ofcourse, may not be aware of the true meaning of Hindutva/Hinduism?Sanathana Dharma and she writes just as per the newspaper propoganda dished out by our PC 'secular' english newspapers/magazines. You have to be in India and see the Indian family and its culture ,especially in the small towns and villages, not in lagre metroplois like Mumbai/Delhi,etc which are corrupted with West's influence, to have the correct perspective.
- Name: HINDU FASCISM IS REACTION TO ISLAMIC FASCISM
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 22:29:03 -0700
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SHABANA IS A STUPID FOOL...SHE SHUD KNOW THE FACT THAT HINDU FASCISM IS A REACTION TO ISLAMOFASCISM AND CHRISTIAN- FASCISM. INDIANS AND HINDUS WERE NEVER FASCIST TILL THE ADVENT OF CHRISTIANITY/ISLAM, AND HINDUFASCISM IS A REACTION TO THE DISEASE OF SEMITIC MONOATHEIST FASCISMIF TOMORROW THERE IS NO ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY THERE WILL BE NO HINDU FASCISM.I THINK SHABAN SHUD LEARN HINDUISM WHICH SAYS THERE R MANY WAYS TO GOD,AND NO ONE SHUD BE FORCED INTO IT AND NONE IS SUPERIOR OR INFERIOR BUT ALL EXIST IN THEIR OWN PLACE.UNLIKE FILTHY FAKE JEW CHRISTIAN ISLAMIC ATE BASED IDEOLOGY WHICH CLAIMS OTHERWISE.
- Name: Cynic
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 22:53:45 -0700
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As a resident Indian I totally agree with the views expressed by Shabana. While I am proud of the great heritage of this country I also notice that Indians tend to look down upon their own culture and traditions. Hence the slow demise of Indian languages going on for some time. The Hindutua zeal is no remedy for this as they are unacceptably obsurantist and caught in a time warp. God help this country from the Dhimmi Congress and the obsurantist Hindutua forces!
- Name: Bhumi Rajeshwar
- Date: Tuesday January 08, 2008
- Time: 22:58:50 -0700
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a thoughtful article. But the author has neglected the legitimate grievances of Hindus. Why is it that Christians claim thay ear persecuted all over the world? It is because they are using their considerable financial power to convert poor people and weaker segments of Hindu society. This is not true conversion and Hindus seem to have no defense agaisnt this in view of the fact that Hindus are so disorganized and are totalyy ignoring this conversion. The converted Christians are taking up arms are are terrorizing Hindus in Northeast and are trying to separate themselves from India like Muslims did through Pakistan. When Hindus legitimate grievences are ignored, what other means do they have against Christian conversion.
- Name: Cynic
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 01:46:26 -0700
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To Bhumi Rajeswar How many Christians are there in India? Even after centuries of predominantly Christian British rule the percentage of Cristians is about 2%. If this is what happened after such long periods of supposed Cristian patronage no large scale conversion can ever take place in India. The bogey of conversion is nothing but a tactic adopted by the Hindu fanatics to sway the opinions of gullible Hindus.
- Name: Ashok Chowgule
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 03:15:26 -0700
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The programme to make Hindus feel bad about themselves was actually that of the Marxists, and not so much of the politicians. Since the independence, the Hindus allowed them to put their thoughts in practice. However, what the Hindus found is that the Marxists and the politicians did nothing for the people at large, particularly the minorities. They implemented policies which kept India economically and socially backward. When the Hindus decided that enough is enough, they decided to put their faith in parties like the BJP. They did so not because they are against anyone, but for themselves. They also realised that within the parameters of the Hindu civilisation, solutions to the problems that the nation is facing can be found. Shabanaji should understand that she has to give solutions to the problems rather than mouthingthings like third-front, secular, etc. In fact, the practice of secularism in India is the root of the problem. Namaste Ashok Chowgule
- Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 13:07:31 -0700
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To cynic : you are not only cynic but also perverse, convolutedly wicked in thinking. Obviously you are a christian. To respond to you and your cynicism - you need a JIHADISTS Moslems ( TALIBAN/AL QAEDA becoz they will tell you that you are a game to be killed as their ALLA told them. Your ideas are laughble and purely evil. Who gave you to destroy other cultures, people, civilizations ,religions ? Jesus told you !!!! The childish ,evil ,fascist, imperialist ideas like your preferred God, choosing you alone, his revelations, his prophet, his bible ( or QQURRAN ) are utterly stupid,evil, antisecular, antidemocratic, irrational, antifreedom,insult to human intelligence and existence. Note that ISLAM and - whereever they went - destroyed the cultures, civilizations,countries. All the intellectuals, philosophers, thinkers now realized this and agreed on this............ ISLAM,christianity and communism are antisecular ,antidemocratic,fascist forces .............. You are out of your mind when you say that BJP or any INDIAN party is obscurantist. You are avoiding the world history. .......... Make no mistake. If the world population is exposed on equal basis and gain knowledge about all philosophies,cultures,religions - you can bet that SANATANA DHARMA will be victorious - not becoz it is HINDU ( SANATANA DHARMA ) but becoz of their strength in moral character, truth,values, noblest ethos, traditions,practices, ideas. This is already happening in the world. Who ever is highly educated, knowledgeable, has thirst to know and study other values,religions, philosophy will be attracted to SANATANA DHARMA. You do not say a word . Just let them study,think, analyze. Examples are DR. FRAN MORALES (Of DHARMA central.com web site ), Koenrad Elst ( The koenrad elst site ) , a christian theologian and came from a lineage of christian missionary family , Jeffry armstrong ( jeffry armstrog.com ) , DAVIDFrawly ( American vedic institute of New Mexico university ) FRANCOIS DE Gautier the french renowned journalist. SANATANA DHARMA has the magnetic power - by the sheer force of it's noble values,philosophy,culture........................Besides , it is time for these 3 evil,fascist forces - ISLAM, CHRISTIANITY and COMMUNISM to dissolve and consign them for the ash heap of history . ISLAM ,christianity and communsim are antisecular,antidemocratic, fascist in nature and history has the proof.
- Name: To Kafir/Infidel
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 15:10:25 -0700
Comment
Hi Kafir/Infidel, I like your comments. Its true and its very very worth. You are doing a great job. Kind regards, Truthseekers
- Name: Arun Shourie's Article from Indian Express
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 15:19:43 -0700
Comment
- Name: To Shabana Muhammad
- Date: Wednesday January 09, 2008
- Time: 15:28:43 -0700
Comment
Dear Shabana, You must read the following article. Thank you.
Best regards, Truthseeker
Hindutva and radical Islam: Where the twain do meet - Arun Shourie
- Name: Seeker
- Date: Thursday January 17, 2008
- Time: 14:28:11 -0700
Comment
You will find dozens of online books on Islamic history vis-à-vis the Indian subcontinent …. at the “Voice of Dharma” website below: Just click on the link below, scroll down and click on any book you see: http://voiceofdharma.org/books.html
- Name: Rajendra
- Date: Friday February 22, 2008
- Time: 12:45:13 -0700
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I find the term 'fascism' applied to Hindu faith offensive. Obviously the writer is not aware of barbaric Islamic rule, followed by British rule (al-together for more than 1000 years)- no other country/ religion was subjected to such horrible bullshit. Muslims especially must be ashamed of their faith, following bullshit written by a pedophile. Muslims- your days are numbered on this planet- literally and in every sense. The pope does not rule, christians do not rule, and certainly the camel jockey Muslims do not rule anything.
- Name: venketachalapathy reddy
- Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
- Time: 11:45:52 -0700
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I strongly oppose the idea that hindus are spineless and prideless.It's the most ancient civilzation that exists today,a philosophy strong enough to accept other's views unlike islam.with each step science takes forward islam takes a step forward.Intellectually speaking islam will end up in the trash of history while hinduism will excel with science.Hinduism inspired openhilmer,einstein and heisenberg.islam and christianity oppossed darwin and galilieo for speaking the truth.Even after muslim and christian slavery, this mighty, invincible, civilization marches on.you can spit upon the fact but the fact will remain a fact
- Name: The Arrow of Light
- Date: Saturday April 26, 2008
- Time: 20:18:28 -0700
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I think this site is doing a good job posting absolute lies about Islam. I said good because this is what brings the Individual to look for more information. The more the individual looks the more information the person gets from right and wrong sources. Thanks to the almighty , he has blessed every person with intelligence to make your own judgement. Thanx for bringing the people towards Islam.