Another Quranic Contradiction: The Privileged Rights of the Prophet
16 Apr, 2008
- It has been a common knowledge now that Qur'an has contradictions or discrepancies which is not denied by Qur'an in the verse 4:82:
- 4:82 Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy."
- Were Qur'an free from any discrepancy, the verse would have said, "... they would surely have found therein no discrepancy", not "much discrepancy".
There has been a long list of errors and contradictions in Qur'an, here I just want to discuss a contradiction around verse 33:50 which may not so obvious.
First, we know that the prophet is the best example for muslims and they must follow the prophet's conducts.
33:21 Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
But verse 33:50 says that not every conduct of the holy prophet can be followed by the muslims.
33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
This is a contradiction because verse 33:21 tells the muslims to follow the behavior of the prophet, but verse 33:50 says there are a few things which the muslims are not allowed to do what the prophet did.
The reason for forbidding muslims from following their holy prophet's conduct in verse 33:50 is obviously because what the holy prophet did (or was allowed) was not so beautiful or ideal to be followed. Doing it must be a sinful act for the believers; and hence, the muslims are not supposed to do it. The prophet , therefore, actually did some sinful act and he is not supposed to be the role model.
Which among the lawful items in 33:50 is only for the prophets and not for the believers? It is the right to "wed" any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the prophet, because the other items are allowed for the Muslims too. (I put the word "wed" between quotes for the reason below).
But wait, isn't that a muslim can also marry a woman who wants to be his wife as long as the woman is halal to be his wife? All he must do is to pay the dowry which can be as little as memorizing a few verses, get a witness and do the ijab qabul ceremony where the woman says that she gives herself to the man and the man says that he accepts the woman as his wife.
So what Allah gives the prophet in 33:50 to be solely for the prophet is not the same as a marriage ritual done by the believers. It must have the meaning that the prophet can copulate right away with the woman who wants to dedicate herself to the prophet. No need for dowry, witness or ijab qabul statements.
In another word, the prophet can do adultery with a woman who is not his wife or his right hand. This holy prophet can just come to a woman's bed room without permission and the woman had better known the consequences if she didn't dedicate herself to prophet because that means disobeying Allah and disobeying the prophet. Allah himself has made a point that it would place the woman at the wrong path.
33:36 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
The case of the prophet marrying his cousin Zainab bint Jahsh may show us how the prophet exercised his special right (Tafsir Ibn Kathir):
(So, when Zayd had completed his aim with her, We gave her to you in marriage,) meaning, `when her marriage to Zayd was over and he had separated from her, We married her to you,' and the One Who was her Wali (guardian) in this marriage was Allah Himself, in the sense that He revealed to the Prophet that he should go in unto her without any Wali, contractual agreement, dowery or witnesses among mankind. Imam Ahmad recorded that Thabit said that Anas, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "When Zaynab's `Iddah finished, may Allah be pleased with her, the Messenger of Allah said to Zayd bin Harithah,
(Go to her and tell her about me (that I want to marry her).) So, he went to her and found her kneading dough. He (Zayd) said, 'When I saw her I felt such respect for her that I could not even look at her and tell her what the Messenger of Allah had said, so I turned my back to her and stepped aside, and said, 'O Zaynab! Rejoice, for the Messenger of Allah has sent me to propose marriage to you on his behalf.' She said, 'I will not do anything until I pray to my Lord, may He be glorified.' So she went to the place where she usually prayed. Then Qur'an was revealed and the Messenger of Allah came and entered without permission.
The prophet had a crush on Zainab, so Zaid, Zainab's husband could not do anything but divorced her. After Zainab's iddah period had finished, the prophet proposed Zainab right away without any delay. But Zainab wanted to think about it and she went to her private place to pray. We know it is her private place because from the tafsir, it is implied that people needed her permission to enter, her bed room probably.
But the prophet could no longer hold his lust because he had been waiting for the iddah period which was 3 months, so he entered Zainab's private place without permission. It is not told what had happened in Zainab's private place, but we can make a good guess what will happen if a horny man comes to a woman's bed room. We can certainly say "only God knows" like what the bearded muslims say, but in this case, the prophet also knew what he was doing, right?
Not withholding his lust and being a sex maniac actually is a holy teaching from the prophet himself as shown in the hadits,
Muslim Book 008, Number 3241:
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) saw a woman; and the rest of the hadith was narrated but (with this exception) that he said he came to his wife Zainab, who was tanning a (piece of) leather, and he made no mention of:" She retires in the shape of satan."
This case will force us to think that Qur'an is nothing more than the word of the holy prophet himself, not of Allah. Surprisingly, Qur'an does indeed say that it is the word of the prophet himself.
81:19 Verily this is the word of a most honourable Messenger,
We shouldn't deny this honourable ayah from the honourable messenger, should we?
Note:
1. All Qur'an verses are taken from Yusuf Ali's translation which
can be found at
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA.
2. Tafsir Ibn Kathir can be found at
http://www.theholybook.org.
3. Hadits Muslim can be found at
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA.
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Name: balam
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 07:12:01 -0700
Comment
What a beautiful piece of excavation from the quran by Abu Taleb.congratulations Abu Taleb.Mohammad was certainly a Horny creature.Muslims are lucky to have a perfect character to follow.The muslims should be ashamed of themselves to follow a man like that.Islam seems to be an adultrous religion.That is why the Muslims attack others so much because Offence is the best form of defense.Thank God Mohammad is not around,otherwise no womans chastity would be safe.what a pervert,turned false prophet.
Name: Mohammad a human being?
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 08:36:45 -0700
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I think many muslims accept that the allegations in the article are true, but it doesn´t chance their opinion concerning Mohammad that much because they see him in a line with other prophets and their myths like Adam, Noah, Moses and Jesus. Therefore, they regarded Mohammad as a mythic person. However, Mohammad is historically relevant and we must regard him as human being with full responsibility for his atrocities. However, if muslim believe in the miraculous stories of Moses and Noah, then they may even accept that Mohammad was married to a six years old girl. But he is not a myth like Noah and Moses. He was as real as Caesar, Hitler or Marilyn Monroe and we must compare him to other humans, not to myths.
Name: NIGARKHAN
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 08:49:41 -0700
Comment
WHY ISLAM IS A DANGEROUS CULT? READ: http://historyofislam.rediffiland.com/blogs/2008/04/13/history-of-islam-1.html
Name: HishamTo Abu Taleb
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 15:45:52 -0700
Comment
Good article. Yes you did pull out one more contradiction on top of a shitload of them. I know Akhter will respond with contradictions from books of other religions. What else can he do.
Name: al ham dull ill aahhh good article
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 23:47:25 -0700
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al ham dull ill aahhh,allah hu iblis,allah hu pig,what a great article.every muslim must read it to know muhamed created allah in his lusty imagination so he cud fuck any woman he wanted.
Name: Mohammad
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 00:47:33 -0700
Comment
Aren't there any standards of writing and scholarship on this website? It seems like every piece makes it here as long as it is loaded with nonsense. There is no contradiction. Following prophet's behavior, does not mean having the same privileges as he does. For example, a student of martial arts is following his coach as his role model in the specific area of martial arts; this does not mean he should have a mercedes just like the one his coach has. Secondly, in the first verse you mentioned about discrepancies in the Quran, note that if Quran had said 'there is no discrepancy' it would have made a false statement because the word 'discrepancy' does appear in the Quran and there exists theoretically the word 'discrepancy'. To have a valid statement, then the Quran says there wouldn't be much discrepancy. This is another thing for you to ponder about.
Name: Will muslims ever understand?
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 01:08:34 -0700
Comment
The most striking thing to me is that all the contradictions in the quran are so obvious, yet no muslim takes care of them. It´s some kind of a herd instinct. They would never critisize themselves but always blame others like US-Imperialism and Zionism. That´s another reason for the backwardness of muslim countries. Nothing can develop if there is no space for reflection and self criticism. Their whole thinking is totally damaged I think.
Name: Re: Mohammad
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 01:19:35 -0700
Comment
"Aren't there any standards of writing and scholarship on this website?" This is exactly what I meant in the comment before. You are referring to standards of others while accepting without any criticism that there are virtually no standards concerning your "beloved prophet". You are not concerned at all that he married and f****d a child, that he had many sex-slaves, that he had many wives etc. I think that the leader of a "religion of peace" has to observe certain standards or moral but you think he must not. But look at Buddha, Jesus, the Pope and the Dalai Lama! They never did such things and that´s why they deserve respect. But what does Mohammad deserve respect for? For killing infidels and for his sex adventures with innocent women??? Don´t tell others anything about standards!!!
Name: Have they left Islam or Izlam?
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 01:44:02 -0700
Comment
*Islam (peace and submission to Creator) is a way of life, which is full of love, mercy, kindness and forgiveness [Quran 1:1-2; 85:14; 21:107; 60:7; 4:17; 7:199; 39:53; etc.], for everyone [2:62; 5:69; 22:17; 34:28; 103:1-3; etc.], opposes terror and oppressors [4:75; 22:39-40; 2:190; etc.], strongly forbids unjust killing and suicide [5:32; 2:195; 4:29; 4:92; 17:31; 17:33; 6:151; etc.], self-defensive as well as tolerant [2:190; 6:107-8; 60:7-9; etc.], gives equal status and rights to women [4:1; 4:4; 4:7; 4:19; 4:32; 4:124; 40:40; 2:187; 3:195; 9:71; 16:97; 30:21; 33:35; 49:13; 16:72; etc.], strongly condemns barbaric female infanticide [16:58-59; 81:8-9; 17:31; etc.], offers freedom of faith and freedom of religion [109:6; 2:256; 6:104; 10:108; 11:108; 18:29; 17:15; 10:99; 76:3; 42:48; 12:104; 39:41; 11:121; 34:25; 6:107-8; 10:41; 2:139; 2:272; 42:6; 73:19; 43:88-89; etc.], against priesthood and religious peddlers [9:31; 9:34; 2:41; 2:174; etc.], ensures justice in this world and in the hereafter [4:135; 5:8; 4:58; 57:25; 39:69-70; 40:17; 41:46; etc.], preaches secularism and pluralism [109:6; 49:13; 2:213; 2:62; 5:65-66; 5:69; 22:17; etc.], gives rights to orphan, needy and widows [2:177; 2:115; 2:220; 2:240-41; 4:2; 4:8; 4:10; 4:36; 93:9-10; 89:17-18; etc.], strongly encourages people to free their slaves that they already possess [90:12-13; 9:60; 2:177; etc.], protects religious temples [22:40], promises eternal peace and salvation in the hereafter [85:11; 4:122; 19:61; 32:19; 2:112; etc.], and so on. Moreover, unlike some other religions, there is no racism, nationalism, caste system, untouchability, slave trade, witch burning, widow burning, honor killing, stoning to death for apostasy, blasphemy and adultery, genocide, superstitions, etc. in the Quran. And above all, Quran is the most positive, progressive, logical and rational book in the world. Yet some mental slaves like Ali Sina, Abul Kasem etc. are trying their best to ridicule Muslims' belief in the most nefarious manner using all sorts of lies and deceptions. Many gullible non-Muslims have also been fooled by their propaganda! #On the other hand, Izlam (a derogatory term) is a cult portrayed by anti-Muslim media, which is full of terrorism, extremism, fanaticism, violence, suicide bombing, intolerance, hatred, bigotry, misogynist, etc. *Now, the question is which religion have the so called ex-Muslims left? Is it Islam or Izlam? If it's Izlam, then let there be congratulations to them! Because Muslims do not believe in such a hateful, misogynist and terror cult call Izlam either. So, it's crystal clear that the so-called ex-Muslims like Ali Sina (fake name), Ibn Warraq (fake name), Abul Kasem (fake name), Syed Mirza (fake name), Mohammad Asghar (?), Wafa Sultan (never a Muslim), Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Maryam Namazie, Taslima Nasreen et al. have been fooled and deceived by anti-Muslim media! And at the same time many gullible non-Muslims have also been fooled and deceived!
Name: Re:Re:Mohammad
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 14:21:26 -0700
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I don't see why having more than one wife is immoral. This is what is wrong with your thinking. You think whatever does not fit your definition of morality is immoral. In the west, people have sex with many women throughout their lives without making a commitment to stay and take care of the children. What is more immoral: a system that understands some men's urge of having relationships with more than one women but forcing him to commit to all the relationships (up to four) or a system that denies it and faces the inevitable consequences of broken families and single parents. People in the west are better off finding solutions to their own shortcomings and immorality before researching the morality of a 7th century man. You have completely gotten your priorities mixed up.
Name: vbv
Date: Friday April 18, 2008
Time: 02:38:35 -0700
Comment
Mohamad was the greatest lecher in the history of humanity,the most immoral , unprincipled andmurderous bastard you can ever find - and to top it all he founds a ghastly,violent,immoral cult with a promise to a lecherous 'heaven' for his followers hinding behind a facade of "religion" by name only bereft of morality and spirituality ,while the billion brain-dead zombies follow like stupid goats to their slaughter! There is no redemption here ,just a misery and terror spreading over the gullble muslims ,reveling in loot,rape and pedophile,incestous relations - a perenial dark tunnel of ignoprance and miserably inhuman existence with no light of knowledge,prudence,spirituality,enlightenment,ect al in sight! The self-appointed 'prophet' of islam is the filthiest character in the annals of human history , and that he comes from Arabia is the least surprising! Hats off to the author for his exposure!
Name: SomeOne
Date: Friday April 18, 2008
Time: 10:46:51 -0700
Comment
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Name: Abu Taleb
Date: Friday April 18, 2008
Time: 17:44:54 -0700
Comment
> Following prophet's behavior, does not mean having the same privileges as he does. Why can't the moslems follow every behavior of the prophet, if the prophet has beautiful conduct and the role model of every human? Or, can every moslem follows the prophet by each of them has some privileges over the others because the prophet is the role model?
Name: jafri
Date: Sunday April 20, 2008
Time: 15:36:04 -0700
Comment
The Quran Speaks About the Quran By: Professor Maqsood Jafri The etymological meaning of the Quran is to read. It is a book which is like a fathomless and boundless sea. One has to dive in to it to fetch the pearls of wisdom. The very first verse revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the cave of Hira was: “Read! In the name of your Lord who created.” (96:1) By Quran we mean the verses revealed to the prophet of Islam. It is the word of God. It is the Greatest and the Ever-current miracle of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the last Apostle of God. It was revealed on the Night of Qadr (2:185; 44-3; 97:1). About the authenticity of the Quran the disbelievers used to create doubts in the minds of the people. They used to make hue and cry about it. The Quran says: “And those who disbelieve say: listen ye not to this Quran and make noise therein” – But about the Quranic truth and genuineness the Quran in the chapter The Heifer declares: “This is the Book, there is no doubt in it (being the word of God). (It is) a guidance for the pious ones” (2:2). In Sura Al-Imran once again Allah regards the Quran as the Book of Guidance. The Quran says: “Here is a plain statement to men, a guidance and instruction to those who fear Allah.” The people who are not pious and chaste and who do not fear Allah are incapable of enjoying the fresh and sweet fruit of this spiritual tree. They are misguided because of their stale souls and dullness of minds. About them in Sura The Heifer the Quran says; “Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)” – (2:7). At another place the Quran says that many people get astray and many receive guidance from the Quran. The Quran clarifies that only the wicked and unchaste ones go astray. Such immoral debauches have no clean heart and mind to sip the pure water from the Eternal spring of Sagacity. The Quran is a Book of Wisdom for wise people. In Sura Yunus it says: “These are the verses of the Book of Wisdom” (10:1). There is a full chapter in the Quran entitled Luqman (The wise). Luqman was a physician, philosopher and saint. The ascription and dedication of a full chapter to his name shows immense reverence for the man of wisdom in the sight of God. This Sura starts with these words: “These are verses of the Wise Book, a guide and a mercy to the doers of Good.”(20:2-3). The miracle of the Quran is that it gives eloquent and elegant message in a few words. Its preciseness and conciseness makes it marvelous. It has 114 chapters and 6666 verses. But according to the punctuation ascribed to the Holy Prophet by the Majmou-ul-Byan the number of the Quranic verses is 6263. The different schools of the reciters-Kufi, Hijazi, Macci, Madani, Egyptian and Syrian differ in this regard. It carries injunctions, parables, admonitions, exhortations, advices, stories and tenets. The Holy Quran at different places makes different claims about the nature of the Quran. Briefly they are as such. The Quran is the revelation of Allah. In Sura Fussilat the Quran says: “Falsehood cannot reach it from before it or behind it. It is revelation from one who is All-wise, praiseworthy.” (41:42). Then in Sura Abraham the Quran announces: “A Book which we have revealed to you in order that you might lead mankind out of the depths of darkness in to light.” (14:1). In Suras, The Poets: The Crowds; The Sure Reality: The Adoration: The Pilgrimage and The Israelites, the Quran announces it to be the revelation and word of God. The infidels who challenged its truth and authenticity the Quran in Sura Yunus are likewise mentioned; “Thus is the word of your Lord proved true against those who rebel: verily they will not believe.” Then in the same Sura they are challenged in these words: “This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelation) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book – wherein there is no doubt from the Lord of the worlds – or do they say, he forged it? Say: Bring then a Sura Like it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can, besides Allah, if it be you speaks the truth” (10:37-38). It has been brought by the arch angel Gabriel. In Sura The Poets, the Quran says: “verily this is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. With it came down the spirit of Faith and Truth. To your heart and mind, that you may admonish in the perspicuous Arabic tongue” (26:192-195). The following verses also mention about Arabic language (12:2; 12:37; 41:3). The reason being the people directly addressed is to understand its message and act on it. The Quran is a guide and warning for all human beings. In Sura, The Sure Reality the Quran announces: “It is a reminder for the heedful.” (69:48). The Quran says that only the men of thinking pay heed to its verses. In Suras, The Cattle; The Abraham; The Saad; The TaHa; The Al-Imran: The Light; and The One Wrapped Up, The Quran says that it is the Book of Admonition and warning. It is mentioned in the previous scriptures. In Sura, The Poets the Quran says: “It (The Quran) is certainly in the scriptures of the previous peoples.” There can be no omission and commission in the Quran. It is free from “Tahreef”. Allah has promised to preserve it. The Quran in Sura, The Rocky Tract says: “It is WE who have sent down the reminder (The Quran) and WE will preserve it “(15:9). Then in Sura The Inevitable Event Allah says: “That this is indeed a Quran most honorable in a Book Well-guarded, which none can touch but those who are clean; A revelation from the Lord of the worlds” (56:77-80). The Holy Quran is the fundamental reference of source and guidance for judgments. No Un-Quranic verdict, decree or decision can be accepted by the Muslims. The Quran in Sura The Table Spread says; “Do they then seek the judgment of the Time of Ignorance? Who could be better at giving judgment than Allah for people with certainty?” (5:50). In Suras, The Mary; The Cattle; The Pilgrimage and The light, it is said that our verses are clear and explicit. In Sura, The Time the Quran says; “It is we who have sent the Quran down to you little by little” (76:23). The Quran is a light of Allah to show the right and straight path to humankind. In Suras, The Battle Array; The Table Spread: The Consultation and The Mutual Loss and Gain the Quran has been regarded as Light from Allah. The Quran is a criterion between right and wrong. It guides to the Right path. It is a healing for the believers. It is a book of Balance and Justice. Hence we see how the Quran speaks of the Quran. The Quran was compiled during the life time of the Holy Prophet. He had set its order. The Quran was recorded in writing at least by the following persons on the instructions of the Holy Prophet; Harzat Ali bin Abi Talib; Abdullah Bin Masood; Maaz bin Jabal and Obai Bin Kaab. During the life time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) it was duly collected and had been given the form to be called a complete Book. As it had seven to ten recitations Harzat Usman gave instruction to Zaid bin Thabit to prepare its final copy on one recitation. The other copies he ordered to destroy or burn. Since then there is only one Quran in the whole Muslim world and all sects of Muslims recite the same Quran. There are no two or three Qurans. The Quran which Hazrat Ali had complied and collected on the guidance and instruction of the Holy Prophet was also the same Quran with the correct punctuation, pronunciation and recitation. During the period of caliphate Hazrat Ali people recited the same Quran, collected by Zaid bin Sabit. Hajjaj Bin Yusuf, a cruel and tyrant Muslim ruler ordered for the punctuation of the Quran for easy and correct reading and understanding of the Quran for the non-Arabs. But for non-Arabic speaking people still it is a problem. They do not recite the Quran with translation in their mother tongues and do not follow it. They should recite the Quran with translation. On the other hand most of the Arabs recite it but do not ponder over its meaning and do not learn any lesson from the Quran. They are oblivious of message. For all such people the Quran in Sura The Criterion says; “Then the messenger will say; O my Lord! Truly my people took this Quran for just foolish nonsense.” Let Allah grant us grace and wisdom to recite the Quran with understanding and act upon its glorious message. In the words of Dr. Allama Iqbal “I make open what is hidden in my heart. The Quran is not only a Book, it is more than that.” What is more than that? Let us ask the Quran about this mystery. In Sura Hashr (The Gathering) the Quran says; “Had we sent down this Quran on a mountain, verily, you would have seen it humble itself and leave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are similitude which we propound to men that they may reflect.” (59:21) The Quran claims that it can cleave the earth and move the mountains. It is a book of Law, wisdom, system, code and miracles. It is a final revelation carrying the basic message of earlier prophets. It is a master piece of immense literary, intellectual and spiritual value. The Quran provides bases for universal values and is a complete code of life. While concluding a few citations from the writings for some non-Muslim scholars about the Quran may seem befitting. Thomas Carlyle says: Sincerity, in all sense, seems to me the merit of the Quran.” J.C. Wilson opines: “The Quran is the most esteemed and most powerful religious Book in the world.” Harry Gaylord Dorman states: “It is a literal revelation of God, dictated to Mohammad by Gabriel, perfect in every letter.” Hence the Quran aptly announce: “we have revealed for you (O Men) a Book which is a message for you: Will you not then understand.” (21:10)
Name: GoodNewsForIslam
Date: Saturday April 26, 2008
Time: 10:09:06 -0700
Comment
Hey, Jafri if you don't understood what Abu Taleb had wrote, then try to understand it by reading again and again, if you have some kind of understanding you will understand, don't write such useless article that we waste our time USELESS,
Name: Ari Ben Canaan
Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
Time: 02:40:03 -0700
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to Jaffri - boundless sea? my foot. it a heap of lies. it was written a group of barbaric sub normal, sub human creatures who never used to bathe or shave. people who were on heat throughout the year, herded their women for a fast afternoon/anytime screw. people who had their eyes set on fleshy holes - from a 6 years old girl child to a 80 year toothless female species. people who excel in sodomy - that continues in the glorified land of middle east (read khaled hosseni). n we at 2008 are expected to listen about god from them. what a joke