There are at least four types of Muslims: 1) Real Muslims, 2) Wishy-Washy Muslims, 3) Secular Muslims, 3) Secular Muslims, 4) Honorary Muslims
1. REAL MUSLIMS
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These Muslims try to follow the Quran and sunna to the word and are true Muslims. All the terrorists and suicide bombers belong to this group. Their only aim in life is to do what will get them to Allah’s paradise. Since the only guarantee of paradise, as mentioned in the Quran, is to kill and get killed for Allah (Quran 9.111), that is exactly what their purpose in life is. They try to kill non-Muslims as well as wishy-washy Muslims to acquire paradise.
EXAMPLE: Major Nidal Hasan, M.D., is one such real Muslims. He has reserved himself a place in paradise by killing 13 kuffars in accordance with the promise of Allah and following the footsteps of Muhammad. 72 virgins with swelling breasts (78.33) are waiting for him impatiently in paradise.
2. WISHY-WASHY MUSLIMS
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These Muslims customize Islam to suit their likes and needs. Although they pray, fast, and go to Haj etc., but are too cowardly to follow the violent tenets of Islam. They ignore the required jihad of killing and getting killed for Allah to gain paradise (9.111). They also ignore the Quranic instructions to take Muhammad as their ‘role model’ (33.21), and refuse to follow in his footsteps of practicing pedophilia, polygamy, jihadi raids, beheadings and rapes... They also ignore the sunna of robbing for livelihood, and instead work for the kuffars. Real Muslims don’t even consider this type of people as Muslims and routinely kill, behead and bomb them.
EXAMPLES: Dr. Rashad Khalifa (PhD) was one such Muslim. This coward Muslim changed the Quran and refused to believe the authentic hadiths, which say that Muhammad killed, raped, and robed. Needless to say, a true Muslim killed him in Arizona.
Dr Juhdi Jasser (M.D.) is another. This coward Muslim has changed Islam to a nonviolent religion of peace and love. Once he called for a massive rally in the name of “Islam for love and peace” in Washington D.C. No body showed up though. There are many death threats on the life of this wishy-washy Muslim.
3. SECULAR MUSLIMS
These Muslims although believe in Quran and Sunna, but ignore to follow them and don’t practice Islamic rituals like salat, fasting, Haj etc. They may date, take drugs, drink alcohol, gamble, and look and act like non-Muslims, but they never lack in love for Islam and the Muslim umma. They also openly oppose the implementation of the Quranic laws (Sharia) in society, and demand the separation of state and religion.
They may not go to mosque to pray, but they love the sound of “azan”. They may not sport a beard, or love to put on Muslim garbs in Islamic festivities. They may don some Islamic symbols to show their love for Islam. They are likely to curse Israel, are generally pro-Palestinian.
EXAMPLES: Canadian anti-Sharia scholar and activist Hasan Mahmud and author Tarek Fatah falls into this category of Muslims. They love the goodies and ease of life secular societies offer, while declaring their solidarity with the “religion of peace”. They are, nonetheless, no less hated by the real Muslims.
4. HONORARY MUSLIMS
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All the leftists and Islam-loving liberals of the world are honorary Muslims that include President Obama. Whether they are in Europe or America, they love Islam and Muslims and are always in bed with them and tend to like anything Islamic. They apologize for Islam and, condemn and persecute whoever tries to tell the truth about Islam.
President Barrack Husain Obama, who wears a Muslim ring and loves Muslims, wrote in book: "When the ill winds blow, I will always stand with the Muslims." He is generally apologetic about the misdeeds of Muslim extremists, and apologizes for the kuffar world regarding his perceived injustices against Muslims. After getting elected as American president, his first interview was with Islamic press and his first overseas trip was to Islamic Egypt.




written by Kafirwala , November 12, 2012
written by abc , November 12, 2012
IGNORANT!
written by abc , November 12, 2012
Obama is a Muslim. I'm sure the CIA and FBI would have done all the checks before hand.
Did you know Obama fired gen petreus to replace him with a muslim brotherhood general??
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 12, 2012
So you have a theory that *Obama is a Muslim*. And you think that theory is true because it is consistent with this observation that *Obama fired gen petreus to replace him with a Muslim brotherhood general*.
I see two problems with your conclusion. You haven't considered a rival theory that *Obama is a closet-Atheist Islam-apologist, (like almost all leftists are Islam-apologists)*. And that this rival theory is also consistent with your observation that *Obama fired gen petreus to replace him with a Muslim brotherhood general*. Do you agree? If you agree, then how do you know which theory is true when they both explain your observation?
The other problem I see is your observation itself. You said that Obama fired gen petreus *so that* he could hire a Muslim brotherhood general. But that is problematic. Gen petreus did something on his own accord that is bad for the CIA and thus bad for America. Petreus was secretly having an affair. And that could lead to blackmail. Thats dangerous. CIA people should not be creating opportunities for harm.
I would take it even further and say that CIA personnel should not even be married or have kids. They should not have personal attachments to other people. These are sources of danger.
written by abc , November 12, 2012
written by Guy Macher , November 12, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 12, 2012
So you think I'm ignorant?
written by abc , November 12, 2012
Do you think the above is an intelligent way to discuss the issue?
I dont think I have seen you object to or analyse an article from a contributer.
Yet you have plenty to say regarding comments people make!
written by Malem , November 12, 2012
written by Betty , November 13, 2012
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
1- Why did Allah create humans with a 50/50% boy/girl birth ratio, but allow men to have 4 wives - essentially depriving some men of ever having a woman?
2- He firmly believes that Allah created Islam/Quran, but his belief is bases ONLY on what others humans have told him - Where is the divinity in this?
But he will never answer them Betty - it is difficult to defend Islam against logic.
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
But she is making a complete recovery, and will be one of a growing number of women that will be the downfall of Islam.
Her story is being carried all over the world, and Muslims women everywhere will be inspired by her. Mulsim men should be ashamed of what their fellow "Muslims" have done.
She is more courageous than all of us for having stood up the 7th century Islam in her backwards state in a country that seems to love it's religion more than it's women.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/10/world/asia/pakistan-malala-one-month/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
written by Malem , November 13, 2012
These are criminals as were the people who shot the teen Malala. Would you be the Idiot type of Westerner?
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
Berkowitz killed because he was insane and targeted random victims.
Gacy was a homosexual pedophile and targeted young boys for his sexual desires.
The Taliban's motives were what exactly Malem? CAn you recall the reason why they attempted to murder a 14-year ol child?
If asked, will they hold up the Quran and praise Allah?
If your Allah's communications are so "perfect" as you claim, why do they treat women as such Malem???
The Taliban kill based on their Islamic values.
Malala was a threat to their women-hating supremacist views...
Malem, your unconditional defense of ISlam is pathetic.
written by Malem , November 13, 2012
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
Your perfect Quran made by your Perfect Allah - is the source of countless horrors such as the attempted murder of Malala.
Berkowitz and Gacy did not act out or religious fanaticism.
That is all.
written by lord garth , November 13, 2012
A way to understand the need for typology is this joke:
What are the two major types of muslims. First are the ones who will kill you for jihad. The second are the ones who will, after your death, say that this had nothing to do with Islam.
written by kope , November 13, 2012
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.11.11DagestanLevashi10A moderate Muslim cleric is murdered by his more radical co-religionists.
2012.11.11PakistanOrgani Town32A Shia father and his two sons are sent to Allah by Sunni gunmen at their repair shop.
2012.11.11LebanonSidon37Hezbollah attacks supporters of a rival cleric, killing three.
2012.11.11AfghanistanSabari60A mother and newborn child are among a family of six exterminated by Islamists on their way home from the hospital.
2012.11.10PakistanQuetta22Four Shiites riding in a cab are sprayed with bullets by Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.11.10NigeriaGwange10Islamists shoot a refrigerator repair man to death in his shop.
2012.11.10NigeriaGaidam50Five Christian iron welders are slaughtered in their own home by Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.11.09IraqMosul21Muslim 'insurgents' invade a home and shoot an old woman and her grandson to death.
2012.11.08AfghanistanZabul20Two boys, ages 12 and 14, are pulled into pieces by Religion of Peace bombers.
2012.11.08AfghanistanMusa Qala107Women and children are amply represented among the victims of a roadside bombing against a wedding party by religious radicals.
2012.11.08PakistanOrangi20An uncle and nephew are shot to death by Sunnis because they are Shia.
2012.11.08NigeriaKachin20A man and his wife are murdered in their home by Muslim raiders.
2012.11.07PakistanPeshawar636A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders six others along a crowded street.
2012.11.07NigeriaMubi25Children are among the casualties when Islamists set off a bomb along a city street.
2012.11.07PakistanMusharraf Colony30A father and son are among three Shiites kidnapped by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and tortured to death.
2012.11.06PakistanQuetta62Three minority Shiites are shot to death in two sectarian attacks.
2012.11.06IraqTaji3356Nearly three dozen Iraqis are dismantled by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2012.11.06PakistanHangu15Mullah Nabi Hanfi terrorists storm a home, shoot the father to death and then beat his wife and children.
2012.11.05PakistanMir Ali30Three local tribesmen are ambushed and killed by local Taliban.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.11.05SyriaSahl al-Ghab5012An Islamist group claims that fifty people were killed by a Shahid suicide bomb attack on an attack on a 'rural development center.'
2012.11.05SyriaMezzeh1124A dozen people are incinerated in a Seif-al-Sham car bomb blast.
2012.11.05IraqBaghdad48Sunnis bomb a market near a Shiite mosque, killing four shoppers.
2012.11.05BahrainManama21Five bombs planted by Shia militants linked to Hezbollah leave two dead.
2012.11.04KenyaGarissa110One person dies from splinter injuries when Islamists toss a grenade at a church.
2012.11.04NigeriaFika20At least two people are killed when Boko Haram militants attack a police station and primary school.
2012.11.04ThailandPattani10Muslim 'insurgents' are suspected of shooting a local civilian four times during a drive-by.
2012.11.04NigeriaBorno30Boko Haram gunmen take down three patrons at a cattle market.
2012.11.04PakistanChinar Kot10An anti-Taliban tribal activist is gunned down by Mujahideen.
2012.11.04PakistanSorsorang30Tehreek-e-Taliban gunmen open fire on a group of Shia believers, killing at least three.
2012.11.04PakistanQuetta10Lashkar-e-Jhangvi shoot a Shia man to death in front of his mother and sister.
2012.11.03PakistanKarachi20Two Shiite victims of a Lashkar-e-Jhangvi attack expire from their injuries.
2012.11.03JordanAmman10A young woman's throat is cut by her uncle to claim family honor after she divorced her husband.
2012.11.03AfghanistanDand10Fundamentalists take down a local cop with a roadside bomb.
2012.11.03Egyptal-Arish30Jihadi gunmen murder three police officers.
2012.11.03PakistanBuner63A Shahid suicide bomber on a motorcycle detonates, killing six others.
2012.11.03SomaliaMogadishu210Two people at a restaurant are sent to Allah by Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2012.11.03ThailandPattani10A 63-year-old man is shot off his motorcycle by Islamic 'separatists'.
2012.11.03PakistanBahawalpur10A young woman is attacked and killed by her brothers for marrying of her own free will.
2012.11.03ThailandNarathiwat38Muslim car bombers take out three people near a school.
2012.11.03IraqBaghdad10A civilian defense volunteer is kidnapped and executed by al-Qaeda
2012.11.03IraqTaji32Islamic 'insurgents' roll up on a checkpoint and machine-gun three local security personnel.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.11.02LibyaBenghazi10A 70-year-old cleric is shot to death in front of his mosque by hardline rivals.
2012.11.02SudanSigili135Janjaweed militia attack a village and kill over a dozen residents.
2012.11.02AfghanistanGereshk40Four local cops are gunned down by Taliban terrorists in uniform.
2012.11.01SyriaSaraqeb100Ten captured soldiers are beaten and then executed by Sunni rebels to shouts of 'Allah Akbar'.
2012.11.01PakistanJai11A 4-year-old girl is killed when Religion of Peace militants fire into her home.
2012.10.31IraqMosul40Post Eid al-Adha targeted killings leave four Shiites dead.
2012.10.31PakistanKhoi Ratta10A Muslim couple honor kill their daughter for talking to a man by dousing her with acid.
2012.10.31JordanZarqa10A 22-year-old woman is strangled by her father on suspicion of having 'relations' with a man.
2012.10.31ThailandPattani24Muslim gunmen open fire on employees at an 'UnIslamic' gambling site at a fair, killing two.
2012.10.31AfghanistanKanjak13A man is killed and three children injured by Sunni bombers.
2012.10.31PakistanKarachi45The Tehreek-e-Taliban murder four people in targeted attacks.
2012.10.31SyriaSayyida Zeinab814Eight people, including two children are killed when Abu Al-Baraa bin Malek terrorists car bomb a Shiite mosque.
2012.10.31AfghanistanMusa Qala102Three women and seven small children are torn to shreds by a Taliban bomb.
2012.10.31LibyaDerna10Islamists are suspected in the assassination of a former official.
2012.10.31SyriaAl-Mazzeh12Sunni rebels plant a bomb near a rival mosque that leaves one dead.
2012.10.30SyriaHoms10An 84-year-old Christian is murdered by Sunnis.
2012.10.30AfghanistanNahr-e Saraj20A terrorist dons a police uniform and shoots two British troops in the back.
2012.10.30SomaliaKismayo424al-Shabaab militants toss a grenade into a tea shop, slaughtering four civilians.
written by kope , November 13, 2012
i hope american get aids or herpes
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.30AfghanistanMaruf60Six civilians in a minivan are sent to Allah by a bomb planted by religious radicals.
2012.10.29PakistanBattagram20A woman and her alleged lover are taken into a house and machine-gunned by a conservative family member.
2012.10.29SomaliaMogadishu10A famous composer and comedian who poked fun of Islamic fundamentalists is assassinated.
2012.10.29TunisiaLa Manouba02Fundamentalists target alcohol vendors, cutting off the fingers of one.
2012.10.29SomaliaBardale11Islamists fire into a family home, killing one occupant.
2012.10.29PakistanNala30Lashkar-e-Islam ambush and kill three security personnel.
2012.10.28EgyptCairo05Five Christians are injured by Muslims trying to block their way into church.
2012.10.28PakistanKarachi10A 37-year-old printer is murdered by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi for not being Sunni.
2012.10.28NigeriaKaduna7100Seven worshippers are murdered when a suicide car bomber plows into a Catholic church during mass.
2012.10.28ThailandYala116Muslim 'separatists' shoot a plantation worker in the head and throw a grenade into restaurant.
2012.10.28IraqMadain38Marketplace bombers murder three shoppers.
2012.10.28PakistanKaka Sahib423Militants following a 'strict version of Islam' bomb the shrine of a saint, killing four patrons.
2012.10.28IraqKadhimiyah1328Thirteen Shiites celebrating their Eid are slaughtered in their own neighborhood by Sunni bombers.
2012.10.28SyriaJaramana1269Twelve people outside a bakery in a Christian district are exterminated in a targeted bomb attack.
2012.10.28SomaliaMerca50An al-Shabaab ambush leaves five Somali soldiers dead.
2012.10.28NigeriaGashish47Suspected fundamentalists storm a local bar and murder four alcohol drinkers.
2012.10.27PakistanDera Islamael Khan26Two Shiite teenagers die from splinter injuries suffered when a Sipah-e-Sahaba cadre throws a grenade at them.
2012.10.27SomaliaKismayo514Five local soldiers bleed to death from an Islamist bomb planted at a police station.
2012.10.27SyriaDeir Ezzor524Terrorists set off a car bomb in front of a church, killing five innocents.
2012.10.27PakistanLatifabad10A Hindu is shot to death by Muslims, apparently with sectarian motives.
2012.10.27IraqBawiya824Four children are among eight people disassembled by Islamic State of Iraq bombers at a playground.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.27IraqSadr City1031al-Qaeda bombers take out ten innocents waiting for a bus.
2012.10.27IraqMosul57Mujahideen take out five Iraqis in a series of bombing and shooting attacks.
2012.10.27IraqTaji59Sunnis murder five Shia pilgrims on their way to a shrine by attaching a bomb to their bus.
2012.10.26AfghanistanMaimana4170A suicide bomber detonates at a rival mosque, sending at least forty-one worshippers to Allah, including five children.
2012.10.26SyriaDamascus532Terrorists blow up several children at a playground.
2012.10.26AfghanistanAndar50Five minority Shiite civilians are pulled off a bus and executed in cold blood by religious radicals.
2012.10.26Iraqal-Mahawil26A Sunni car bomb at a Shia mosque leaves two worshippers dead.
2012.10.26KenyaDaadab10al-Shabaab assassinate a police officer at a mosque.
2012.10.26IranSarbaz20Sunni terrorists are suspected in a drive-by attack that leaves two dead.
2012.10.25PakistanKarachi50Sectarian Jihadis take down five people from a rival mosque at a restaurant.
2012.10.25PakistanKarachi10A 40-year-old Shiite is gunned down at a market by Wahhabi terrorists.
2012.10.25SyriaQatana10An Orthodox priest is horribly tortured and murdered by Muslim 'criminals'.
2012.10.25AfghanistanUruzgan20A Taliban in police uniform shoots two American soldiers in the back.
2012.10.25PakistanCharbagh20Islamists open fire in front of a mosque, taking down two members of a peace committee.
2012.10.25YemenBeaver Ridge Canaan20An al-Qaeda drive-by leaves two dead.
2012.10.25SomaliaWanlaweyn812A suspected al-Shabaab mortar hits a bus, obliterating eight passengers.
2012.10.25PakistanGilgit10Qazi Aisar members shoot a Shiite in the head at a bazaar.
2012.10.25SomaliaJamama10A woman is stoned to death by Islamists in the town square for adultery.
2012.10.25AfghanistanFaryab70Seven innocents are killed when religious radicals take over a bazaar.
2012.10.24IraqKirkuk12Mujahideen take out a small child with a roadside bomb.
2012.10.24RussiaKazan11A police officer dies from injuries suffered when an Islamic militant self-detonates.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.24IraqMishahada60Six employees at a parts factory are brutally machine-gunned by al-Qaeda on their way home.
2012.10.24IraqKazaniyah20Sunni gunmen pick off two civilians.
2012.10.24PakistanGulshan13Militants kill a teenage girl in a bomb attack on her family home.
2012.10.24SyriaDaf al-Shok620A Shahid suicide car bomber sends six other souls to Allah.
2012.10.23PakistanNazimabad12Sipah-e-Sahaba militants fire on three Shias at a grocery store, killing one.
2012.10.23IraqShuala926Targeted car bombings in a Shiite neighborhood leave at least nine residents dead.
2012.10.23PakistanLyari10A reporter dies from injuries a few days after being shot by Sunnis who labeled him an 'impure Muslim'.
2012.10.23RussiaNorth Ossetia13A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out a local cop.
2012.10.22LebanonTripoli712A 9-year-old girl is picked off by a sectarian sniper, one of seven who lose their lives in a Sunni-Shia clash.
2012.10.22EthiopiaGerba12A guard is killed when a Muslim mob attacks a government facility over an alleged threat to Islam.
2012.10.22KenyaLikoni17A policemen dies from splinter injuries suffered when an al-Shabaab cadre lobs a grenade at him.
2012.10.22AfghanistanGenewa100Ten Afghans are murdered during a Taliban attack on their convoy.
2012.10.22AfghanistanIsmael Khel24Two local police officers lose their lives to a well-placed Taliban landmine.
2012.10.22SomaliaAfmadow512Islamists shell a town's sleeping residents in the early morning hours, killing at least five.
2012.10.21ThailandNarathiwat10A Buddhist teacher is shot to death by Muslim 'separatists'.
2012.10.21LebanonBeirut216A clash between Sunni and Shia leaves two dead.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.21NigeriaAtagara20Two people are killed when Islamic radicals torch a church.
2012.10.21SyriaDamascus1329A bomb targeting Christians on their way to church leaves thirteen dead.
2012.10.21ThailandNarathiwat27Bombs planted by Muslim extremists leave two dead.
2012.10.20UkraineLviv10Three Muslims murder a Jewish doctor who was also a professor.
2012.10.20NigeriaPotiskum190Nineteen additional bodies are discovered following an assault on a town by Islamic extremists.
2012.10.20IraqBaghdad41Mujahideen shoot four Iraqis to death.
2012.10.20NigeriaPotiskum70Three children and a woman are among seven family members abducted from their home and executed by Boko Haram.
2012.10.20IraqBaghdad1135Vicious back-to-back bombings outside a Shia shrine leave at least eleven dead.
2012.10.20PakistanGujranwala10A man is shot to death after being acquitted of defaming Muhammad.
2012.10.20ThailandPattani10A 59-year-old Buddhist is shot several times in the head by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2012.10.19PakistanKarachi30Three young seminary students on bicycles are murdered by sectarian rivals.
2012.10.19IranChabahar26A suicide bomber is prevented from entering a mosque, but manages to kill two guards.
2012.10.19IndiaSrinagar12Three Muslim terrorists opens fire inside a hotel, killing a bellboy.
2012.10.19LebanonBeirut878A car bomb blast in a Christian suburb leaves eight dead, including children.
2012.10.19NigeriaMaiduguri10A Chinese construction worker is picked off by Islamic snipers.
2012.10.19NigeriaPotiskum50A raid on several schools by religious radicals leaves at least five dead.
2012.10.19IraqBalad411Four Shiite pilgrims on a bus are sent straight to Allah by Sunni bombers
2012.10.19AfghanistanDawlat Abad1914Religion of Peace bombers massacre nineteen members of a wedding party, mostly women and children.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.19AfghanistanHerat10A mother of two is stabbed to death by her husband for defying his order not to work outside the house.
2012.10.19AfghanistanGereskh60Six local police officers are poisoned and shot by Taliban.
2012.10.19PakistanBaldia12Sunnis fire on an Ahmadi minority family, killing one member.
2012.10.19PakistanLahore10A Shiite lawyer is taken down at a traffic light by Sunni assassins.
2012.10.19LebanonTripoli10A cleric is shot in the head by a mob after appealing for peace.
2012.10.19YemenShuqra2115Sixteen local soldiers and five civilians are exterminated at their base by al-Qaeda suicide bombers.
2012.10.18NigeriaAngwan Alaku123Fulani raiders fire on villagers, killing at least a dozen.
2012.10.18SomaliaBaidoa40al-Shabaab ambush and kill four Ugandan peacekeepers.
2012.10.18TunisiaTataouine10Islamic protesters murder a secular politician.
2012.10.18PakistanKarachi10Sipah-e-Sahaba cadres torture a 28-year-old Shiite with a metal rod before dispatching him with three shots.
2012.10.18PakistanDera Ismail Khan11A targeted assassination attempt on a Shia doctor leaves her driver dead.
2012.10.18ThailandYala10A 53-year-old Buddhist man is hit several times in the torso by Muslim 'separatists'.
2012.10.17IraqMuqdadiyah20Sunni gunmen take out two Shia civilians.
2012.10.17IraqBaghdad315A bomb at a grocery is one of several that leave three civilians dead.
2012.10.17AfghanistanZurmat045A Shahid suicide bomber injures forty-five others.
2012.10.17KenyaLikoni19Ten police officers are casualties of an al-Shabaab grenade.
2012.10.17PakistanQasba10Sectarian Jihadis gun down a father of three outside his shop.
2012.10.17PakistanKilli Jeo10Suspected Taliban shoot a medical worker to death as he is trying to vaccinate children.
2012.10.16PakistanKarachi10A Shiite is gunned down by Sunni militants, who also fire on a rival mosque.
2012.10.16IndonesiaMasani20Jamaah Anshorut Tauhid murder two investigators of a church bombing by stabbing them in the neck.
2012.10.16KenyaKulan10al-Shabaab Islamists murder a telecom engineer.
2012.10.16YemenAbyan25A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills two others.
2012.10.16PakistanQuetta40Four Shia minorities workers at a scrap market bleed to death following a targeted shooting by Sunnis.
2012.10.16YemenSanaa10al-Qaeda on motorbikes shoot a man in the head.
2012.10.15IraqTuz Khurmatu22Two local cops are machine-gunned at a checkpoint by Jihadis.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
2012.10.15PakistanKarachi52Five men are shot to death over 'religious differences'.
2012.10.15IraqSinsil40An 'insurgent' bursts into a home and machine-guns four family members to death, including two women.
2012.10.15IraqKirkuk323Jihadi car bombers take out three Iraqis.
2012.10.15IraqMosul13A child is disassembled by Mujahid bombers.
2012.10.15ThailandNarathiwat12Islamic 'separatists' fire into a car carrying two women and a man, killing at least one.
2012.10.14EgyptAbdelmassih23Two members of a Christian family are shot to death in their own home by a Muslim gang attempting to kidnap and convert a 24-year-old female relative.
2012.10.14PakistanMatni712Religion of Peace militants overrun a police station and behead seven officers.
2012.10.14PakistanQuetta14A Shia businessman is taken down by Lashkar-e-Jhagvi.
2012.10.14NigeriaGwange11A tribal leader is assassinated by Boko Haram after being accused of 'betraying Islam'.
2012.10.14NigeriaYogbo300Thirty people are left dead when Muslims resolve a "land dispute" by massacring thirty Christian villagers, mostly women and children.
2012.10.14NigeriaMaiduguri30A family of three is cut down outside their church by Islamist gunmen.
2012.10.14PakistanKarachi10A 30-year-old Shia man is gunned down in cold blood by Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorists.
2012.10.13PakistanDarra Adam Khel1840Eighteen souls are sent to Allah by Shahid suicide car bombers.
2012.10.13PhilippinesLamitan30Three unarmed soldiers are murdered by Abu Sayyaf as they are buying food.
2012.10.13AfghanistanMaruf63A half-dozen people are torn to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2012.10.13AfghanistanQalat23Taliban bombers murder two local cops.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
written by Montegue , November 13, 2012
Natas has aired quite an impressive list of Muslim dirty laundry. Oh, it stinks the entire galaxy.
written by Natas , November 13, 2012
written by fineliving56 , November 13, 2012
Impressive peaceful list !!
written by Infidel and More Proud , November 13, 2012
Kope do you or anyone in your family have aids or herpes so that you want it for americans? If americans are sick then where will the dole for Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan and Afganistan come from?
written by Archpagan , November 13, 2012
A proverb in my mother tongue says ' vulture's curse does not kill the cow'.
written by Malem , November 13, 2012
written by Liberal Fundamentalist , November 13, 2012
Sure, Kope. As allah probably sent you down here to showcase muslim intellectualism.
written by Islam-watch Pastor , November 13, 2012
To me ignoring the Quran, the main inspiration for the Islamic terrorism, the world is simply saying we are not ready to fight terrorism. When a sickness is not properly diagnosed it becomes almost impossible to cure or achieve a permanent healing. A war that you don’t know the address of the enemy is the most difficult to fight.
There is only one enemy of the world terrorism, and that is the Islamic scriptures which are the main inspiration to the terrorist. Until the world focuses on how to eliminate these sources of inspiration like it did in the case of Nazism and communism, the war on terror will never be won. Because killing a few terrorists here and there living the Terrorist manual – the Quran and Hadiths as religious books makes the war on terror a joke. This is so because these books will continue to manufacture terrorists in thousands faster than they are being killed.
But if these books are banned all over the world not to be used as religious books, 99% of the war on terror would have been won. I wish the United Nation and the civilised world will come to this realisation.
If you really want to uPdate your knowledge of the terrorist activities in the world you better visit www.religionofpeace.com where Nadas copy pasted for us to see. 99% of world terrorism is inspired by the Islamic scriptures that is why they go by the name Islamic terrorist or extremist. That is why we know that Islam is not a religion but a terrorist cult. Mohammed, being the cult leader and not a prophet of any sort as Muslim would want us to believe.
The Quran and hadiths portrayed him as a cult leader, a pirate, a terrorist, a gangster, a rapist an assassin, a paedophile or child molester, and murderer.
This is the picture of the Muslims champion; you don’t expect the disciples to be better than the master do you?
Cheers
written by Dwito , November 13, 2012
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Alas there is only one type of contributer to this website! IGNORANT with the exception of rami!
Do you think the above is an intelligent way to discuss the issue?
So abc, you accept him as an intelligent person? Good to know that.
I dont think I have seen you object to or analyse an article from a contributer.
That's his freedom of choice and judgement. You are crossing your limit of propriety by expressing this. Also, you didn't explain why you expect him to object to something he is supposedly supporting?
and analysis? Yes, he is doing that. Why are you denying?
Yet you have plenty to say regarding comments people make!
Not mere people, my boy. It's a confrontation of rational thinking and anti human, anti civilization crime. He is today's crusader of modern style.
written by INDIAN , November 13, 2012
May festival of lights bring love and light in the lives of all humans.
written by Jye , November 13, 2012
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
The Taliban were motivated by Islam's supremacist, intolerant values.
You just can't admit it...
written by Gnostic , November 13, 2012
It was Obama who killed Osama Bin Laden and this was very risky for him because nobody could know about the success.
Maybe his diplomacy looks somewhat sweet to some anti-islamists but what do you expect? That Angela Merkel will throw a quran into the toilet in front of tv cameras? Or that Putin will put the destruction of islam on the agenda?
I do not believe that this will ever happen. But why are you only criticizing Obama? It was Bush jun. who supported islamism more than anybody else by invading Iraq.
Now Obama leaves Iraq which is only good; let them kill each other if they want.
written by Malem , November 13, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 13, 2012
> Do you think the above is an intelligent way to discuss the issue?
That is not discussion. You have made an unexplained assertion. Assertions should come with explanations.
> I dont think I have seen you object to or analyse an article from a contributor.
I have done both. Note that I don't read all articles.
If you want me to address a specific idea, ask me to.
> Yet you have plenty to say regarding comments people make!
Yes. And I've objected to and analyzed ideas from both Muslims and non-Muslims.
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 13, 2012
So you believe in Karma? That is anti-Islamic.
written by BrownSuperman , November 13, 2012
When the Dumb Lad is busy trying to have intercourse with the 72 dark-eyed, big-breasted Houries in Allah's Paradise, the two wives will still be in the park musing the passing old non-muslim men. Of course they will not mind Malem's trying to have sex while all the houries will be helping the Lad get his first erection, in vain. The wives know he cannot be unfaithful. Question answered, Betty?
copy: Malem Lad
written by fineliving56 , November 13, 2012
He will fight you, tooth and nail, to defend Islam …. how else he is going to be allowed to keep his Harem. He needs to keep Islam, in tact, if it means he could keep his double life … .. he is happy the way things, are, … His Allah told him, men are smarter,stronger and more needy, there for, they have more RIGHTS then women.
Muslims Malam NEED to keep things the way they are, otherwise, he has to GIVE UP one of his wives, and end up sent to jail for the crime of monogamy … so Islam has to stay in tact .
I guess, It is hard to take give up his lopsided life … so he keeps denying,obfuscating and lying … he is not above it …
Each post of his IS A DEMONSTRATION of his bottomless effort to defend his adulterous life .
Just watch him say : western have affairs and has double lives, also … he cannot let his self SEE THE DIFFERENCE between the two …
Just watch him say : we are jealous … he does not know, the poor man, what, he has done to his wives.
The idea that any women would be jealous of his double life is the most absurd notion, ever .
I have no respect for a Muslim or a man like Malam .. out of the Muslims who post here .. he takes the prize of hypocrisy.
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
Malem in unconditional in his defending Islam.
There is no argumentation possible with him.
If he does not like the direction a discussion goes, he will throw insults, and change the subject.
Pathetic and both a show of close-mindedness and hypocrisy.
written by Malem , November 13, 2012
Fineliving, I do not live an adulterous life lass, I am married and only have relationship with my wives. Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt matter, it is legal and I obey the law. I dont ask for your respect, I dont need it nor do I desire it.
written by Jye , November 13, 2012
Go crawl back into your hole now and continue to worship your God of Misogyny. You're a disgrace to civilized people, and your "laws" are an affront to humanity.
written by Wasim (Rawalpindi) , November 14, 2012
written by Joy , November 14, 2012
You may like the facts and statistics on this website:
http://www.bengalgenocide.com/
written by Joy , November 14, 2012
http://bengalvoice.blogspot.com/
written by Kaser , November 14, 2012
"My point, which you missed as well as Fineliving, was that the MEN committed the crime, not Islam."
Oh, we get your point. We get the concept that Islam, the ideology, did not ACTUALLY PULL the trigger.
We get that. You can stop repeating it. It's ok.
What you avoid admitting Malem, is that Islam is the cause, the JUSTIFICATION these "men" have used to shoot that little girl.
Islam, and the retarded, misogynistic societies it spawns.
Like Saudi Arabia, whether or not you admit it.
Malem, you can argue until you are blue in the fact and out of breath - you KNOW FULL WELL that the Taliban, Ansar Dine, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, Al Quaeda ALL USE Islam as the core ideology for the crimes they commit. These violent thugs claim they are actin gin god's name.
So go ahead, keep up the avoidance Malem. Stay backed in your corner, with your eyes shut, your ears shut and keep screaming "Islam is pure, Islam is perfect" Until you finally end-up in your make believe paradise (at least, you hope so).
Cowards like you are the reason so many men commit those horrendous crimes, because Cowards like you avoid facing the truth that Islam is defective and that Islam breeds this violence - which allows you to put the blame somewhere else than where it is due.
written by Malem , November 14, 2012
Cowards are people who try to blame their problems on others and dont do anything themselves, like you whining on a blog but in real life you dont do anything. Typical
written by Malem , November 14, 2012
written by Mozlem , November 14, 2012
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written by kope , November 14, 2012
> in my mother tongue bad karma will not go unpunish
So you believe in Karma? That is anti-Islamic.
and you are ex muslim?
written by malem , November 14, 2012
written by Kaser , November 14, 2012
Your logic is "bullet-proof". Looks like you are right - Islam is NOT the source of any violence.
Men are the source of violence by the simple fact they are born violent. They cannot be conditioned to hate and be evil.
Silly me - here I thought verses like "Be ruthless to the unbelievers wherever you may find them" incite violence.
How wrong I was... with your arguments Malem, I see the true light of Islam. It's purity...
written by Kafirwala , November 14, 2012
Recently a well known muslim cleric in my state has publicly announced that why Islam prescribes four wives for every man is because the women have their monthly periods. Every woman, he said, is unserviceable for a week during the month due to this and just to recompense this that Allah granted four wives to every male!
written by Kaser , November 14, 2012
Why did Allah give humans a 50/50 boy/girl birth ratio?
Should it not have been 20/80 boy/girl so that all men can have 4 wives???
Allah is most wise...but confusing...
written by kope , November 14, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_dBjqzB8o4
written by fineliving56 , November 14, 2012
They have been ordering boys by rejecting, their Allah creations and play Allah's themselves, so they have been KILLING the female fetuses and leaving the boy ones .
There was a study I read about few years ago, that reveals that, the count of men in that country is one MILLION OVER THE COUNT OF WOEMN's … as a result of their hate and fear of women, their problem of 4 to 1 only going to get worse .
You Know what I which ? .. since they hate women that much … I which these idiots keep doing that until there NOT one women left for them to marry.
Moronic Saudis ….
written by fineliving56 , November 14, 2012
Married women and their kids will inherit inheritance after the death with NO need to prove the paternity of a child ..
A MISTRESS … DO NOT GET A DIME FROM INHERITANCE AND HER KIDS HAVE TO PROEVE PATERNITY TO PAY for child support .
Muslim Kope … that is the difference between the two situations …. AS IF YOU DID NOT KNOW ?/!!
that is why a western women is better off with a womanizing man then a Muslims women with a monogamist man like Malam …
Malam, not, only stole another man's potential wife when he was selfish and greedy and got married to his second wife, he **diluted** his wealth between two wives and 10 kids …
Mistresses are no wives … Muslims man ?/!! ….
There is NOT one good thing for wives in monogamist marriages … they get cheated and swindled in each and every way possible .
Typical Islamic rationalizing .
written by Kafirwala , November 14, 2012
written by Betty , November 14, 2012
If all that's true why then, pray tell, is Islam the only religion/ideology that this (referring to the posts by Natas) happens in? Surely there are isolated instances where insane or irrational people do terrible acts, but the Islamic way is more systematic. The books of Islam preach for domination, you know this is true, no god but Allah and his only prophet Muhammad and that sort of garbage. Christianity, Buddhism,Judaism,Hinduism,Atheism and all the other -isms don't murder and destroy like Islam. So there is a common bond within the religion, which is the scripture of the religion. So maybe we can't put Islam in jail, but we can expurgate the texts which cause the terror and hate in Islam. Throw them out and start again, and maybe Islam will take it's place with the others, trying to promote help and assistance to the ones who need it. And maybe even do it better.
written by jane , November 14, 2012
I swear by that who holds in His Hands the Soul of Muhammed! I indeed wish to go to war for the sake of Allah! I will assault and kill,assault and kill, assault and kill (told by Bukhari and Muslim).
An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape."
In Holland you can see young, unveiled Moroccan women with a so-called "smiley". It means that the girl gets one side of her face cut up from mouth to ear, serving as a warning to other Muslim girls who refuse to wear the veil.
In Courneuve, France, 77 % women carry veils because of fear of being harassed,raped or molested by Islamic patrols.
Denmark - 68% of all rapes committed this year were perpetrated by an muslims .
In Australia’s New South Wales Supreme Court a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not muslims or wearing a headscarf.
Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said, invited men to rape them.
Sudan -women who are captured by muslim government forces are asked; “Are you Christian or Muslim?” and those who answer Christian, are gang raped before having their breasts cut off.
7000 gang rapes are committed each year in France by muslims .
“Seven-hour non-stop gang rape by 12 Afghan MUSLIM refugees was the ‘most gruesome rape marathon in Sweden’s history,’ say prosecutors. The rape was oral, anal, and vaginal, with up to three rapists in her at the same time.
written by jane , November 14, 2012
France - In the market of Chemin Bas d’Avignon in Nîmes, Muslims warn wine sellers and butchers who sell pork to cease and desist carrying these items, or pay the ultimate price…with their lives.
Colorado
The victim of a vicious sexual assault said that the five Iraqi Muslim attackers were unhappy with the way they were treated in the United States.Some of the victim’s injuries were described by police as being brutal and “rarely seen.”
Darfur -“Each of us was raped by between three and six muslim men.One woman refused to have sex with them, so they split her head into pieces with an axe in front of us.”
“Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet and legally subject to lethal abuse. Imam Abdul Makin
Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when they were raped.
written by kope , November 14, 2012
western women is better off with a womanizing man then a Muslims women
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western women get sexually transmitted diseases by their husband just ask Betty and Jane they have herpes god knows what else
written by Infidel and More proud , November 14, 2012
western women get sexually transmitted diseases by their husband just ask Betty and Jane they have herpes god knows what else.
Are you not shooting yourself in the foot by saying the women got disease by their husbands. What is their fault in this. The men are at fault isnt it?
Kopey why did Allah create STD, Herpes and AIDS?
Is Allah selective in giving these diseases to muslims and non muslims or he created these for both?
written by Dwito , November 14, 2012
The prophet with a small army could win the Badr battle against the Quresh's mighty army because of Allah's help only. Allah had sent malaks to fight along with the muslims. That is how they won.
Sir, thank you for this satirical post. It's always a pleasure to read such comments from scholars like you.
But sir, apart from others, I would like to point out the above part of your post. This story of Badr baffled me for a long time. Especially when the Quresh's mighty army were fully prepared for the battle. It is said that the proportion of Quresh and Mdn. army was 10:1.
Just think of the strength. 3:1 Infantry & Cavalry: 50:2 Horses and 2.5:1 camels. And result? 70 Quresh against 14 Mdn. killed. And it is said that 35 killed by Ali ibn Abi Talib alone. 70 captured.
How could this be possible? In plain sight, it is not. Rather it should be a simple win for Qeraish's.
Then what is the truth? To me, it is not allah's nonsense. But a very simple, mundane, age old Mir-jafar story. Only this theory can rationally explain the reason of mo's win in that uncanny story, if ever happened. I would love to know your and other scholar's note on this idea of mine.
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 14, 2012
The first situation involves a parent giving her baby a bottle of formula. The baby takes a sip and puts the bottle down on his tray. Then the parent tried to coax the baby with cute eating methods involving airplane or train sounds. The baby kept turning his head. Then the parent got anxious and tried to force it in his mouth thinking that she's doing it in the best interest of her baby. The baby responded by hitting the bottle, knocking it to the floor. Then the parent used more force and succeeded in getting her baby to drink the formula. Hours later, the baby died. The autopsy showed that the baby was poisoned. The police learned that the formula was tainted -- not just the formula in the baby's bottle, but also the whole batch of formula shipped by the manufacturer.
It’s important to consider who committed evil; the parent, the baby, or both. The baby knew that the formula tasted really bad, so each time that he rejected it, he was doing good. The parent knew that her baby rejected the formula, so each time that she tried to coerce her baby to drink it, she was committing evil.
Now consider situation identical in all respect but one -- the formula wasn’t tainted, so the baby didn't die. Who acted immorally? Can the answer be different? Logically speaking, the answer cannot be different. Morality does not depend on the actual results, but rather only the expected results. To illustrate this point, consider whether or not it is moral for a father of five young children to choose to spend all their life savings on lottery tickets. Does the moral choice depend on whether or not he wins? No, the choice depends on whether or not he’s expected to win.
As I’ve illustrated, every evil act is caused by insufficient knowledge. In the case of the parent who forced her baby to drink the bottle, had she known that coercing people is expected to lead to bad results, and that persuasion doesn't have that fault, she would not have resorted to coercion. In the case of the father who spent his entire life savings on lottery tickets, had he known that his choice is expected to lead to bad results, and had he known a better way to spend that money, he would not have committed evil.
At some point in the future, when every human being understands this principle of optimism well, and has sufficient knowledge, all evils will be eradicated.
- If you read this far, then you'd enjoy this: http://curi.us/1540-taking-children-seriously
-- Rami Rustom
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 14, 2012
Excellent point!
Today's Islam is like a gun. Today's Christianity/Judaism/Hinduism/etc are like bumper stickers with slogans.
People use guns to kill people. People use bumper stickers with slogans to express their opinions.
Should we ban guns because people use them to kill people? No.
written by Reed Wilson. , November 14, 2012
Islam/Muslim-It is derived from the Arabic verb Aslama meaning to Submit to (the will of the one and only Allah). It is the religion PAR EXCELLENCE of SUBMISSION and a follower of Islam is called a Muslim.
ISLAM means SUBMISSION only, and has nothing to do with PEACE which is SALAM.
Quran says:
3:67 Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian but he was true in faith and bowed his will to Allah's (which is Islam) [Hanifa Musliman] and he joined not gods with Allah.
In fact, the Quran itself asserts, that all and every Israelite or Jew is a Muslim:
2:127 And remember Abraham and Isma`il raised the foundations of the House (with this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us for thou art the All-Hearing the All-Knowing.
128 "Our Lord! Make of us Muslims [Muslimeen] bowing to Thy (Will) and of our progeny a people Muslim [ummata Muslimata] bowing to Thy (Will) and show us our places for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us (in mercy); for Thou art the Oft-Returning most-Merciful.
131. Behold! His Lord said to him: "Bow (thy will to me)" [aslima] He said: "I bow (my will) to [aslamtu] the Lord and Cherisher of the universe."
132. And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons and so did Jacob; "O my sons! Allah hath chosen the faith for you; then die not except in the faith of Islam [Muslimoona]"
133. Were you witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship thy Allah and the Allah of thy fathers of Abraham Isma`il and Isaac the one (true) Allah to Him we bow (in Islam) [Muslimoona]"
134 That was a People that have passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did and you of what you do! of their merits there is no question in your case!
135 They say: "Become Jews or Christians if you would be guided (to salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! the religion of Abraham the true [Hanifan] and he joined not gods with Allah."
136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Israelites] and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)[Muslimoon]"
written by Reed Wilson. , November 14, 2012
Islam/Muslim-It is derived from the Arabic verb Aslama meaning to Submit to (the will of the one and only Allah). It is the religion PAR EXCELLENCE of SUBMISSION and a follower of Islam is called a Muslim.
ISLAM means SUBMISSION only, and has nothing to do with PEACE which is SALAM.
Quran says:
3:67 Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian but he was true in faith and bowed his will to Allah's (which is Islam) [Hanifa Musliman] and he joined not gods with Allah.
In fact, the Quran itself asserts, that all and every Israelite or Jew is a Muslim:
2:127 And remember Abraham and Isma`il raised the foundations of the House (with this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us for thou art the All-Hearing the All-Knowing.
128 "Our Lord! Make of us Muslims [Muslimeen] bowing to Thy (Will) and of our progeny a people Muslim [ummata Muslimata] bowing to Thy (Will) and show us our places for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us (in mercy); for Thou art the Oft-Returning most-Merciful.
131. Behold! His Lord said to him: "Bow (thy will to me)" [aslima] He said: "I bow (my will) to [aslamtu] the Lord and Cherisher of the universe."
132. And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons and so did Jacob; "O my sons! Allah hath chosen the faith for you; then die not except in the faith of Islam [Muslimoona]"
133. Were you witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship thy Allah and the Allah of thy fathers of Abraham Isma`il and Isaac the one (true) Allah to Him we bow (in Islam) [Muslimoona]"
134 That was a People that have passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did and you of what you do! of their merits there is no question in your case!
135 They say: "Become Jews or Christians if you would be guided (to salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! the religion of Abraham the true [Hanifan] and he joined not gods with Allah."
136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Israelites] and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)[Muslimoon]"
written by Reed Wilson. , November 14, 2012
3:64 Say: "O people of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not from among ourselves Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back say: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's will) [Muslimoona]."
3:84 Say: "We believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham Isma'il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Israelites] and in (Books) given to Moses Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam) [Muslimoona]"
4: 163 We have sent thee inspiration as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him; We sent inspiration to Abraham Ismail Isaac Jacob and the Tribes to Jesus Job Jonah Aaron and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms.
5: 5 This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are chaste women who are believers but chaste women among the People of the Book revealed before your time when you give them their due dowers and desire chastity not lewdness nor secret intrigues. If anyone rejects faith fruitless is his work and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).
5: 44 It was We who revealed the law (to Moses); therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews by the Prophets who bowed (as in Islam) [Aslamoo] to Allah's will by the Rabbis and the doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men but fear Me and sell not My Signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed they are (no better than) unbelievers.
22: 78 And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive (with sincerity and under discipline): He has chosen you and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham. It is He Who has named you Muslims both before and in this (Revelation); that the Apostle may be a witness for you and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer give regular Charity and hold fast to Allah! He is your Protector the Best to protect and the B
written by xyz , November 14, 2012
I want to ask these Malems and Kopes and abcds
What if there was no Muhammad?? What if there was no Islam ? Why God had to send Muhammad to disturb the peaceful life of Meccans and Arabs at large. What was the benefit of sending the so called Highest Prophet and the Best of the Guide Book??
Was it Allah's personal problem? OR The world would gain anything out of it??
Please answer in the light of facts that after 14 centuries only 25% humans are Muslims. Is Islam a success story?? Is Allah successful in guiding and implementing his laws and convince at least 50 % of humans to His ideology anytime during 14 centuries. Please do reply with open hearts and minds.
written by Malem , November 14, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 14, 2012
False. Karma is about cause and effect. It explains that an action done now will cause an effect later, in *this* lifetime. That verse you mention is talking about the Day of Judgment. It explains that one's deed will cause an effect *after* this lifetime.
> also 2:287 Allah burdens not any soul beyond its capacity. It shall have the reward it earns, and it shall get the punishment it incurs.
There is no Quran 2:287. What verse are you talking about? And in that verse, does it assert that the reward and the punishment will be given after one's death in this world or before?
> So the idea of karma does exist in Islam...always has Rami, I told you to read the Quran and you would have known this lad
You don't know whether or not I've read the Quran. And, according to you, you have read the Quran. So why have you made the mistake of thinking that Karma is consistent with Islam? Its because you are a poor thinker. And the Quran doesn't help you improving your thinking.
I suggest reading something more valuable than the Quran. Something that will help you improve your thinking. Like _The Beginning of Infinity_: http://beginningofinfinity.com/. The Beginning of Infinity is a book, by David Deutsch, broadly about explaining reality, thinking rationally, and the beginning of infinite human progress.
written by Kafirwala , November 15, 2012
After fleeing Mecca and taking asylum in Medina, Mo was really struggling to find out a living for himself and his close followers. He could not depend upon for long on the charity of his Medinian friends and associates. He found out a way to raise money. Plundering of the unwary travellers and caravans in the desert was his strategy. He claimed and convinced his followers that he obtained Allah's permission for this heinous activity. He started with small plunderings and finding that his plan is successful, he started to recruit mercenaries and helpers from the tribes in Medina, offering a part of the booty and before long he organised a 300 strong group. Then he started to attack big caravans in right earnest. It was second year of his stay at Medina. The richest caravans were from Mecca and they used to bring their goods from Syria. When he started to attack Meccan caravan, the Qureshs got really angry and decided to teach him a lesson. This is the background of the battle at Badr. Hearing that Mo would attack the caravan led by Abu Sufiyan, the Qureshs numbering around 1000 people set out to Badr, the nearest point in the desert path to Medina. It was an impromptu decision and without much arrangements that they undertook the journey. Badr is around 40 kms. away from Mecca, but only 5 or 6 km from Medina. Not only that, it was hilly terrain and Mo's army numbering a little more than 300 people waited on hill top for the Qureshs who took more than 20 hours to reach the scene of action. The Qureshs were totally tired and exhausted due to the long journey and the hot summer and what is more, being sacred month for them many of them were on fasting too. They initially had thought that because of their numerical strength, they could easily defeat Mo's men. But things were not so easy. They reached Badr well after midnight and they slowly started to climb the hill. In the early dawn, the muslims under the leadership of Mo came down heavily on them and the battle ensued for a long time. Finally Mo and his men succeeded in scattering the Qureshs and defeating them. This is what really happened and there was no hand of Allah in the whole proceedings. But Mo as usual claimed it was Allah who helped him to defeat a 1000 strong army.
written by Yibel , November 15, 2012
According to Islamic sources: Ibraheem lived in Babylon during the reign of Nimrod; his father was an idol maker named Azar (Q.6:74); Nimrod threw Ibraheem into a raging fire because he threatened to destroy the Babylonian idols; Ibraheem was related to the Sodomites; and he rebuilt the Ka'aba of Makkah.
Abraham of the Bible was the son of Terah and lived in Ur of the Chaldees, over 700 miles south of Babylon. And he lived over 700 years after the death of Nimrod and he never threatened to destroy any idols. Also, he was not related to the Sodomites. In addition, he never went to Arabia, let alone build that ugly monstrosity, the Ka'aba.
Abraham of the Bible left Ur because of the main god of Ur - Sin. Sin was a moon god worshipped by the Assyrians who forced people to worship Sin through the use of the sword.
It was either convert to Sin worship or get your head chopped off. Sounds rather familiar, doesn't it?
written by Malem , November 15, 2012
You see little Rami, there is cause and effect in the Quran. You just need to have read it, but you did not. Maybe you were too busy in your big business company hahaha.
Here is a book for you, but its concepts are likely too much for your brain to be able to digest. "Power vs Force" look it up in your local book store, or online. Until that time Rami, keep tossing your BS story around Im sure someone will believe you.
written by fineliving56 , November 15, 2012
Either Malam made a mistake with the nunmber of the Aya he sited … or he is the biggest Muslim liar on earth .
There is NO AYA …2/287 in surit AL BAQARA … it goes up to only 2 / 286 …. NOT 287 …
SO IS IT A MISTAKE … OR A LIE ?
Also to everyone ..can anyonee tell me if ..Malam knows Arabic, he would have posted the Arabic words of Quran … that Irdo translation he just posted is a pathetic and revealing to the fact that … Malam is ignorant of the Arabic .
Malam should post the NON EXCISING AYA … in Arabic
Malam '' TELL US WHERE DID YOU GET THAT AYA FROM
If you have a Quran that DOES have AN AYA WITH NUMBER 287 … THEN YOU HAVE BEEN **HAD ** because of your ignorance of the Quran ,
written by fineliving56 , November 15, 2012
Either you A LAIR AND I AM GOING TO EXPOSE YOU … you are posting fack Quran and you
Or you are a fool when you are reading fake Quran as inauthentic one …
Malam … you might have been ***HAD ****
written by fineliving56 , November 15, 2012
and I have a feeling it is Malam does not have the real Quran that he reads from
Amazing …. this bit of important information takes the cake … that there FAKE QURANS IN DEFERENT LANGUAGE ????!!!
I am FLOORED
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 15, 2012
I don't repeat myself. So your canned response doesn't apply to me.
> 2:287 اللہ کسی جان پر اس کی طاقت سے بڑھ کر بوجھ نہیں ڈالتا۔ اس کے لئے ہے جو اس نے کمایا اور اس کا وبال بھی اسی پر ہے جو اس نے (بدی کا) اکتساب کیا۔ اے ہمارے ربّ! ہمارا مؤاخذہ نہ کر اگر ہم بھول جائیں یا ہم سے کوئی خطا ہو جائے۔ اور اے ہمارے ربّ! ہم پر ایسا بوجھ نہ ڈال جیسا ہم سے پہلے لوگوں پر(ان کے گناہوں کے نتیجہ میں) تُو نے ڈالا۔ اور اے ہمارے ربّ! ہم پر کوئی ایسا بوجھ نہ ڈال جو ہماری طاقت سے بڑھ کر ہو۔ اور ہم سے درگزر کر اور ہمیں بخش دے۔ اور ہم پر رحم کر۔ تُو ہی ہمارا والی ہے۔ پس ہمیں کافر قوم کے مقابل پر نصرت عطا کر۔ It was always there lad.
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> You see little Rami, there is cause and effect in the Quran. You just need to have read it, but you did not. Maybe you were too busy in your big business company hahaha.
AMAZING! There is no such verse. That isn't Arabic text. And there is no 287th verse of Surah Al-Bakara. Check any Quran in Arabic or English.
Malem. You've been worshiping fake stuff. Are you going to question some of your ideas now?
> Here is a book for you, but its concepts are likely too much for your brain to be able to digest. "Power vs Force" look it up in your local book store, or online. Until that time Rami, keep tossing your BS story around Im sure someone will believe you.
I searched that book and found this description: "David R. Hawkins details how anyone may resolve the most crucial of all human dilemmas: how to instantly determine the truth or falsehood of any statement or supposed fact."
Thats ridiculously stupid. We are fallible. We can not know which of our ideas is true. We go from mistaken theory to less mistaken theory to less mistaken theory. There is no infallible method of "determining the truth or falsehood of any statement or supposed fact". Any method a human uses will be fallible, just like him.
written by fineliving56 , November 15, 2012
But now I have a concrete proof that non Arabic Muslim are reading different Quran we DO NOT KNOW
When I sow the number 287 … i had to look twice and checked all my books of Qiuran to find out … there is NO 2/287 .
Malam … you are liar and shame on you … that post you posted about the non exciting 287 was in Urdu WHICH YOU DID NOT EVEN KNOW you were not posting an Arabic Quran verses … you posted it in Urdu ..
Such lies muslims do is disgusting … shame on you Malam … shame on you .
And Muslim pride them selves on having ONE and universal Quran … apparently … not anymore .
WOW
written by Betty , November 15, 2012
2:286
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Sahih International
Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people."
written by Betty , November 15, 2012
written by fineliving56 , November 15, 2012
Thank you for researching .. as you now know .. there is no 2.287 .. lol
To actually post a hoax verse and add a long Aya to the end of Surit Al Baqara, you have to be a crook … I am shocked .
He has told everyone that he lives in Egypt and knows Arabic as any native, and he denied that he was a Pakistani and he said that he never been there ever … YET HE POSTS HIS NON EXCITING AYA 2/ 287 IN **URDU AND NOT IN ARABIC, LIKE IT SHOULD BE . …
I mean if he was going to cut and paste Ayas of Quran, at least he would do it as it is not in urdu letters ??!!!
It begs the question … what else these Muslims are lying about over here …
I am going to keep an eye on his Quran's quotes and I am going to do my own research on dishonesty of translations of Quran .
Talk about '' lost in translation'' … and in Malam case '' added translation '' all just, to fool people in to believing in Islam and fool them into converting to Islam .
written by xyz , November 15, 2012
I am talking about Islam, and old brain Malem is talking about Ibhtamic religions.
First of all there is no historical connection between Islam and Abraham
Can you provide any historical proof that Abraham of ibhramic religions ever came to Mecca ??
Did any other Prophet ever came to Mecca OR even spoke about holiness of Mecca or Kaaba ?? Apart from Mohammed the prophet of Islam .
Now answer my question Old Malem
written by xyz , November 15, 2012
Why Moses and Jesus didn't know about the sacredness and holiness of Mecca and Kaaba??
Did Moses and Jesus ever spoke about holiness of Kaaba or Mecca or about their father Abraham building a god house at Mecca ??
There is NO connection between Islam and Abraham .
written by Kaser , November 15, 2012
I guess not, you'll avoid the subject again...
written by Malem , November 15, 2012
Fineliving - You spoiled my prank on Rami, too bad as I was having some laughs at picturing him searching for 287 and then trying to translate urdu , hahaha even I like to play pranks on peoples!
Rami - So you think Hawkins is stupid? Wow coming from you that really...means absolutely nothin lad, you dont have the intellect to understand Hawkins. You see you just grab one line and then try to discern what the man is about, like your whole life I imagine. You should learn urdu some time hahaha
As for Ibrahims connection to Muhammed PBUH - here is it clearly drawn out for even betty to understand http://www.atlantajamaat.org/m...y_tree.php
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 16, 2012
How would *you* know? Do you think you have the knowledge to know who's right?
If so, bring it. What explanation do you have that is consistent with Hawkin's theory and that contradicts with my criticism of his theory?
> You see you just grab one line and then try to discern what the man is about, like your whole life I imagine. You should learn urdu some time hahaha
Yes. Criticisms can have a lot of reach. The idea of fallibilism easily refutes his theory. And not understanding fallibilism means not understanding how my criticism refutes his theory. Both you and Hawkins don't understand fallibilism.
Note that Socrates was the first to explain fallibilism. And Karl Popper explained it more clearly, only 70 years ago. And David Deutsch explained it even more clearly two years ago in his book _The Beginning of Infinity_. And Elliot Temple explained it even more clearly here: http://fallibleideas.com/fallibility.
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 16, 2012
Everyone, note how Malem is now backpedaling. Instead of admitting his mistake of finding this fake sura, he is lying. He is now saying that he was joking. This is a typical response of people like him -- evaders. Psychologists call this passive-aggressive behavior.
Why wouldn't he just admit his mistake? Because it would mean admitting that there really are people out changing the Quran. And they are able to do with because people like Malem don't read arabic.
written by Betty , November 16, 2012
written by Malem , November 16, 2012
written by fineliving56 , November 16, 2012
Your post clearly sounded like you thought, aya 287 does exists and bragged, that Rami hardly knows Quran like you do .. your second post sounded deflated like a ballon … you are not fooling anyone ..little lad.
I am convinced you are not an Arab or Egyptian …it looks like your language is urdu …why are you so a shamed from where are born is beyond me .
I have discovered that non Arab Muslims are changing the translation of Quran and I have caught it so many changes before done to sweeten the bitter taste of Quran .
You failed my test when I posted Quran like verses !
But it looks like I past the test, on Quran … huh?
Look … you,Reed, Abc and kope the mope .. are not going to out smart me on Quran, hadeeth and Sirah … so do not even try .
I will catch everything you throw in here about islam and FIX IT and throw it,right back at you, Muslims.
Every time I find one of these changes, I will posted and make the real truth come out .
written by fineliving56 , November 16, 2012
My knowledge of Quran, might be healthy, but My English needs a doctor .
:)
written by Malem , November 16, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 16, 2012
I've evolved beyond getting angry. That you suggest this means that you still do get angry. Anger is evil: http://ramirustom.blogspot.com...anger.html
> that you spent time looking up 287?
It took less than a minute. Select the urdu text, copy, tab (which sends the cursor to my google search bar), paste, enter (which performs the search). Why do you think spending a minute is harmful? Or something to get angry over?
> haha When I make a mistake I will admit it, but a prank is not a mistake lad. Maybe you just do not have intellect to grasp the humor behind it, from my vantage point it was quite funny!
There are a lot of jokes that st@pid people say that I don't find funny. Thats not a criticism of me, but rather them.
written by fineliving56 , November 16, 2012
Yes, like this Egyptian jewel :
'' Matestana Yakawaaka …ruh kul ta'aimiyya abli mattkuh itraab ''
Jannah should be Jannah like Syrians and most Arabs … not like how Egyptian say it '' Gannah '' ……. '' Jeem''does not pronounced '' geem ''
Slang Egyptian is the worse of them all … they kill the Arabic language every they open their mouth … Hahaha
Because you said that everyone know Egyptian are the best in Arabic, I know you do not know much about this subject … hahaha
Thanks for the laugh …
My proper Arabic is very good I care less what you think …
I wrote Quranic like verses which needs proper Arabic, in 10 min and rhymed perfectly and I posted, my son was surprised how fast I wrote it, and you did not even realized the difference …. hahaha .
Do not talk about things you not know much about …. like the Arabic Language .
written by Liberal Fundamentalist , November 16, 2012
It was certainly not a "prank" by any stretch of imagination but a sheer attempt at falsification. While your lie has been caught, a billion people still live the lie sold to them 1400 years ago. Pathetic. And an insult to intelligence.
By the way, dare I assume you are from Pakistan (courtesy the urdu post). It would complete the picture.
written by Malem , November 16, 2012
written by fineliving56 , November 16, 2012
Are you saying that, what you said which is '' to go in sixty thousands pieces to H&ll '' is a lot more gentlemanly, then what I said, which is '' I hope your house [ houses that is ] will be destroyed, little boy '' !?
I do not think so … your is a lot more Evil
BTW… taking lessons from Betty, is a lot better, then you taking lessons from Muhammad the mass killer and little girls lover . These are only 2 out of many of the worst attributes, a man could ever have .. if he had lived today, he would have been, put to electric chair .. that is your prophet, Muhammad … the one you look up to …yes, the worst man ever lived on this earth and will ever.
Maklool al Aqil
written by Betty , November 17, 2012
:here is it clearly drawn out for even betty to understand
:Very nice, spoken like a true Syrian lady! Are you taking lessons from Betty hahaha :)
I never thought I'd be pursued by an old fossil of a worn out man....but it goes to show you don't never know, strange days have found us.
Poor old fellow, must be a bitch being him, living in trash and poor souls waiting for the great Allah to help them lol
written by Amboyduke , November 18, 2012
written by Kafirwala , November 14, 2012
Recently a well known muslim cleric in my state has publicly announced that why Islam prescribes four wives for every man is because the women have their monthly periods. Every woman, he said, is unserviceable for a week during the month due to this and just to recompense this that Allah granted four wives to every male!
written by Amboyduke , November 18, 2012
And fineliving56...your English is just fine...it don't need no doctor...with apologies to Humble Pie...LOL
As far as the following comment below is concerned re: why muslims have 4 wives for every man...that may be his bullshit version of how that goes,
(Not you, Kafirwala, I'm referring to the "muslim cleric here...)
but in reality, when a group of women associate with each other in close quarters for any length of time, they all start to have their monthly ordeal at exactly the same sequence...
how did allah not know this? Hmmmmmm???
Wonderful Islam!
written by Kafirwala , November 14, 2012
Recently a well known muslim cleric in my state has publicly announced that why Islam prescribes four wives for every man is because the women have their monthly periods. Every woman, he said, is unserviceable for a week during the month due to this and just to recompense this that Allah granted four wives to every male!
written by malem , November 19, 2012
written by gurjeet , November 19, 2012
gurjeet
written by Kaser , November 19, 2012
Allah also permits marrying pre-pubescent girls - do you agree with this Malem?
Allah also permits being ruthless to the unbelievers - do you agree with this Malem?
If you do not agree with these permissions Allah gave Muslims, then aky do you beloeve it's ok to have 4 wives?
Malem, are you cherry-picking what suits you from your Quran?
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 19, 2012
He is cherry-picking, but he doesn't know it. Psychologists call it a case of cognitive dissonance. I understand it to be the psycho-epistemology of most people today. He is subconsciously trying to protect his self-image as a Muslim. That causes him to rationalize every conflict he sees by all sorts of methods, most of which do not correspond with logic.
His ideas are inconsistent. That means many contradictions and conflicts between his ideas. He grew up that way and doesn't know that its bad.
This kind of person, this kind of mind, has the quality of "easy-to-vary". It means that his ideas are easy to vary. That his worldview is easy-to-vary. So he can make changes to his worldview by adding and subtracting and editing his ideas when ever he wants without restrictions. Why no restrictions? Because he doesn't care about consistency between his values, and between his actions and his values.
He doesn't know the right way to do it, which is to try as best as one can to make all of one's ideas to be consistent with eachother -- i.e. to make his worldview self-consistent. The goal is to have as few contradictions and conflicts as possible -- the best each one of us can.
This kind of person, this kind of mind, has the quality of "hard-to-vary". It means that his ideas are hard to vary. His worldview is hard-to-vary. So he can't easily make changes to his worldview. It takes a lot of effort. He has to make sure the new idea is consistent with his other ideas. If he finds a conflict, then he sets out to resolve the conflict so that he can figure out if he whether he will adopt this new idea or reject it. How does it do it? Like this:
Consider each of the conflicting ideas to be theories, rival theories that is. Which rival theory is correct? How do we determine that? We criticize each of the theories. Then we criticize the criticisms. The theory left uncriticized is considered the right one, for now. In the future, someone can create a new criticism and the cycle continues.
written by Malem , November 21, 2012
My position is one of consitency in that I have not changed it. Rather you try and form a diagnosis based on your limited knowledge and transfer that upon others, with the hope that people will somehow look up to you and somehow you will win the discussion/argument. Maybe its your lack of attention that you received from your parent when you were young or maybe its a case of adjustment disorder or delusional disorder, maybe a blend, but you have issues lad.
I know you are trying to play in the big world, with adults, and I understand that your like to tell stories of yourself and your successes, but in the end your a young boy playing in a mans world. Give it time, youll get there. Until that time, wash your hands.
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 21, 2012
Maybe upto 5 people know what I wrote. If you don't believe me, try to find it. And then post it here.
> but its really tiring to hear you say the same things over and over. You really need to read past page two lad.
I don't repeat myself. Ever! That you think I did, indicates that you don't have a clue what I said.
> My position is one of consitency in that I have not changed it.
*It* was inconsistent when it was created 1400 years ago. Whether you change it or not, its f*ck*d.
> Rather you try and form a diagnosis based on your limited knowledge and transfer that upon others, with the hope that people will somehow look up to you
People already look up to me.
> and somehow you will win the discussion/argument.
I wasn't involved in the discussion. It was between you and Kaser. What are you talking about?
> Maybe its your lack of attention that you received from your parent when you were young or maybe its a case of adjustment disorder or delusional disorder, maybe a blend, but you have issues lad.
Everyone should take note. Malem made fun of me for "diagnosing" him, and then within the same post, diagnosed me.
> I know you are trying to play in the big world, with adults, and I understand that your like to tell stories of yourself and your successes, but in the end your a young boy playing in a mans world. Give it time, youll get there. Until that time, wash your hands.
If we're playing, then you're losing.
written by malem , November 21, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 21, 2012
Take note everybody. Malem evaded -- as I predicted he would. He didn't address any of my criticisms. He didn't answer any of Kaser's questions. Instead, he makes personal attacks.
written by Vishwas Gokhale , November 21, 2012
written by Kaser , November 21, 2012
We bring to Malem serious allegations against his perfect "light of Islam" and he never argues.
He simply brushes them off and claims we are in error, and insults us.
Initially, I was questioning myself a bit more because of this, but now, I see it's his only means of discussions.
Pathetic.
written by Malem , November 21, 2012
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 21, 2012
Kaser, you should write an essay and post it. That way Malem, according to his own words, would address it.
Let me know if you want me help.












