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Ten Commandments of Allah

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“Whoever Allah guides none can misguide, and whoever He allows falling astray, none can guide them aright. The Holy Koran is the very words of our Lord and Creator, which have been revealed for our guidance”. – The Noble Koran

When Allah speaks – all are commanded to hear Him!

This article is complied as mockery of Allah’s verbal orders via Angel Jibraiel. Although, it is a bit of fun, but, in a nutshell, it tells us everything about Allah, Islam and the rules and conquests of Prophet Mohammad.

The Koran is a book of Holy Orders by Allah to the ways of Life of being a Muslim. Prophet Mohammad delivered these Islamic Ten Commandments being commanded by Allah and is proposed to all of Mankind. These commandments are decreed below:

  1. I am Allah and you shalt have No other Gods before Me AND Do not draw my picture or We will kill you!
  2. Thou shalt not worship any carved images, and if you do, We will blow them up and destroy them!
  3. You shalt not take the name of thy Allah in vain, but only under the penalty of death or if being persecuted by an Infidel!
  4. In addition, consider every Friday thy most holy day, take thy whole month and call it most holy, and to pray five times a day in prostration and force all infidels to adjust and be inconvenienced. Thou shalt feel free to wash your feet, hands and face in the sinks of public restrooms!
  5. Honor your father and thy mother, but only if they are Muslims, and kill by striking their heads off if they choose any other religion than Islam, for such is honor killing in the cause of Allah subhan-e-talla!
  6. Thou shalt not kill other fellow Muslims, unless they happen to be in the way of Jihad in My name. Thou shalt kill all infidels/unbelievers, for they are the spawn of dogs and pigs, especially the murtidhs!
  7. Thou shalt not commit adultery if you are a Muslim woman and if you do, then you will be buried in the ground up to your neck and stoned to death. For a Muslim man, can have more than one wife and marry and have sex with children and his many slaves
  8. Thou shalt not steal from fellow Muslims. But, you can do anything you
    want to Infidels/unbelievers, for they are not worthy of respect of Allah and His Prophet!
  9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against your Muslim neighbor, unless it furthers the cause of Islam. For all lies are permitted which favors Islam and thou shalt say anything you desire about infidels/unbelievers, for Allah bless all Muslims in Islam’s cause!
  10. Thou shalt not covet your Muslim neighbor's possessions, but it is open season on all infidels/unbelievers, for Allah cares not for them!

This is thy words of thy Lord in Heaven; Allah blesses all Muslims to fight in the cause of Islam. Believe in My Last Prophet of Prophets – Muhammad, for he is the wise, the merciful and a guidance by deeds. I have sent him as the bestest of all of Creations!

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Khan - this article is comical
written by malem , July 27, 2012
For a while I thought this site was presenting factual data about Islam, I can see with this article and a few other recent ones, it has turned into a joke. It presents "spoofs" and other spurious articles with the apparent aim of trying to disparage Islam versus provide meaningful information to discuss.

So to that vein I will assume that we can now just post whatever we feel is funny or slanderous to try and further our opinions.
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written by barry , July 27, 2012
I am not one to look to when commenting on the quality of an article, the word combinations used, etc... this is a very very good summary of what is Islam. It is simple to understand concise and accurate.
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It's even worse than Brokaan described
written by ChrisLA , July 27, 2012
In addition to the exceptions Brokaan listed, adultery for men excludes sex with temporary wives -- which is basically legalized prostitution. Shiites call it mut'ah, and Sunnis call it misyar

Regarding theft, Sharia Law's definition of theft is limited to sarika -- stealth removal of property. Taking property by force -- ghasb -- and confiscation -- khiyana -- are exempted from the hadd punishment. Embezzelment is also exempted. This explains why there is so much corruption in Muslim countries, even though an indigent may have his hand cut off for stealing food from his neighbor.
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Duh @ malem
written by DeDoc , July 27, 2012
It's called satire. Look it up. Learn something dude. I realize the Muslim mindset precludes any pretense of humor, but don't be an ignoramus.

The Islamic World seems more obsessed with such earnest issues as to whether its OK to swallow one's own saliva during Ramadan fast, than producing anything that pokes fun at the ridiculous and oft monstrous sides to the religion. I suggest you confine your readings to the thousands of useless fatwa websites - that seems to be suited to your level of intellect. Though to be fair, some of these fatwas are hilarious, even if unintentionally so. Halal mermaids for example: http://www.mujahideenryder.net...-mermaids/
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to malem
written by milad meah , July 27, 2012
Ten Commandments of Allah is not funny, the facts are mingled with sadness, you have to see the other side of the coin too.
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lied to
written by Klay , July 27, 2012
munhammad was not the son of GOD. And never will be !!!
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written by Brown Superman , July 28, 2012
Although Islam/Mohammedanism/Muslimism is one big joke, those Ten Commandments aren't.

Muslims, including Malem, need to read, memorise and practise those commandments real serious. I am sure the matter or Pearl-quality Boys and Houries will be in the next 10 Commandments (ver 2.0)
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Islam is a failed Religion
written by Gnostic , July 28, 2012
Islam produces failed states everywhere. Islamic economies are unable to compete. We are running into an oiloversupply and this will cause the end of islam when the muslims will begin to realise that they cannot produce food buy praying. That islamic overpopulation only causes unemployment and poverty. That muslms all rely on foreign skills and foreign knowledge but that nobody wants their islamic teachings.

Islamic economies will collapse much like the communist economies did 20 years ago. There are even some similar problems such as high subsidies for food that has to be imported. But while the former communist countries are growing fast nowadays I dont expect this for the arab and muslim societies because their education is so bad and all water resources will be depleted in a few decades from now.

When the oil price once falls, the fall will accelerate because the countries will try to compensate the lossess by even more production. We cann already watch this in some countries. Al Qaeda is a symptom ...
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Muhammad
written by britishwayoflife , July 28, 2012
They claim the founder of Islam is a prophet named Muhammad...however Muhammad himself says he is not a prophet and has never personally heard from God...in fact Muhammad who heard voices thought himself it was from evil spirits....his wife encouraged him to change his mind and claim God had spoken to him...FACT!!!
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Dedoc...
written by Amboyduke , July 28, 2012
Right on...!!
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written by Amboyduke , July 28, 2012
Muhammad
written by britishwayoflife , July 28, 2012

They claim the founder of Islam is a prophet named Muhammad...however Muhammad himself says he is not a prophet and has never personally heard from God...in fact Muhammad who heard voices thought himself it was from evil spirits....his wife encouraged him to change his mind and claim God had spoken to him...FACT!!!

BINGO...BWOL...the voices might have been caused by the syphillitic spirocete chewing holes in his brain...???
It is a shame the syphillis didn't kill the lunatic before he started all this shit...!
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To malem
written by Archpagan , July 28, 2012
I find this article to be a 'made-easy' on Islam. You should be grateful to the author for rendering excellent service to the cause of Islam.
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Ten Commandments of Mohammad.
written by balam , July 28, 2012
There is no comparison between TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD,given to MOSES and TEN FLEXIBLE Commandments given by Mohammad to allah.It is all a hoax about this allah business, passing any messages through Jibeel.It was Mohammad's Inner voice which dictated his heart's desires as situation arose.Islam is another name of mind control like SCIENTIOLOGY.Mustafa Kemal of Turkey set the seal on the truth about Islam in one sentence like this:ISLAM IS THE ABSURD THEOLOGY OF AN IMMORAL BEDUOIN.Ref holy terror by Amer Taheri page 187.
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 28, 2012
Brokaan. Nice article which helps in stock taking in light of Quran.

One should check one by one all the 'commandments' as where they are in the message. Allah guides through Quran.

I didnt find any such in Quran.

As for "Thou shalt not worship any carved images, and if you do, We will blow them up and destroy them!

Worship means obeying. None is worshiping carved images nor it is possible.

Thou shalt not worship any carved images, and if you do, We will blow them up and destroy them!

Muslims should follow all the scriptures

َقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ لَيْسَتِ النَّصَارَىٰ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَقَالَتِ النَّصَارَىٰ لَيْسَتِ الْيَهُودُ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَهُمْ يَتْلُونَ الْكِتَابَ ۗ كَذَٰلِكَ قَالَ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ مِثْلَ قَوْلِهِمْ ۚ فَاللَّـهُ يَحْكُمُ بَيْنَهُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ فِيمَا كَانُوا فِيهِ يَخْتَلِفُونَ
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muhamed never talked to any god just like abraham,moses,jesus etc....all jews srians muslims r liars
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , July 28, 2012
muhamed never talked to any god just like abraham,moses,jesus etc....all jews srians muslims r liars
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klay
written by malem , July 28, 2012
Muhammed never said he was the son of god, you have proven your lack of knowledge as many others have on this blog. Muhammed was a prophet as the others before him were.
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harkat
written by malem , July 28, 2012
Your grasp of the written english word and your ability to express your thoughts is amazing
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written by Vluk , July 28, 2012
This is certainly a very good summary of what Islam is all about. If the destruction that Islam is causing was not so awful this would be quite funny.
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written by Vluk , July 28, 2012
This is certainly a very good summary of what Islam is all about. If the destruction that Islam is causing was not so awful this would be quite funny.
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 28, 2012
Allah says:

َلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا رُسُلًا مِّن قَبْلِكَ مِنْهُم مَّن قَصَصْنَا عَلَيْكَ وَمِنْهُم مَّن لَّمْ نَقْصُصْ عَلَيْكَ ۗ وَمَا كَانَ لِرَسُولٍ أَن يَأْتِيَ بِآيَةٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّـهِ ۚ فَإِذَا جَاءَ أَمْرُ اللَّـهِ قُضِيَ بِالْحَقِّ وَخَسِرَ هُنَالِكَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

"Surely We have sent apostles before you, some of whose account We have related to you, and that of some We have not told you. But no apostle was given a miracle unless God dispensed. But when the decree of God comes the sentence is passed with justice; and the lovers of vice and vanity will then come to grief." 40:78 (also 4:164)

Quran tells us that God sends a messenger to every community:

وَلِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ رَّسُولٌ ۖ فَإِذَا جَاءَ رَسُولُهُمْ قُضِيَ بَيْنَهُم بِالْقِسْطِ وَهُمْ لَا يُظْلَمُون

"For every people there is an apostle; and when their apostle is come the matter is decided between them equitably, and no one is wronged." 10:47

Prophet is not correct translation of Nabi and Rasool. It should rather be apostle and messenger respectively.
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@Malem
written by balam , July 28, 2012
All the true prophets of God have been Jewish.Was Mohammad Jewish?If not why not?Did he set the highest moral standards like Jesus?If not then why not?After all,he is supposed to be the seal of Prophets and above all others.
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To Reed Wilson
written by Archpagan , July 28, 2012
It's really a nice article by Brokan presenting the common perception of Islam among you Muslims. Your view is of no consequence. You are a mere Taquiya artists to us and a munafik to Muslim masses.
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Reed Wilson
written by fineliving56 , July 28, 2012
The exact meaning of Rassol … the "'man who is sent'' …comes from root word '' Irsal '' …. means '' to send ''

So … when Quran refer to Muhammad '' Al Rasool'' for single and '' Al Rusul '' for plural … it meant to say '' The man who sent by Allah to The Pagans to inform them of Allah and Islam'' … and it is referring to Muhammad no one else .

Another word that refers to Muhammad and to the other prophets is '' Al nabi '' for single and '' Al Anbiy'a '' for Plural …
"'Al nabi "" … means "' the men who is informed ' … comes from root word "' Nubu'a"' … to be informed [prophesy ]

So … when Quran referred to Muhammad, it does not only, call him by a his name, it uses Al Rassol and Al nabi to do that …
also Quran use these two words to talk about other prophets … And the way to know the difference is from context of the Aya … it is not hard to do that at all …

For example the word '' Al Rasool'' used in Q / 47/ 33 … it talks, specifically about Muhammad no other prophet when it said '' …. O who you believe, obey Allah and Obey '' Al Rasool '' [ Muhammad ] the messenger, and do not make deeds with no effect ''
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 29, 2012
Thank you fineliving. You are right. But rasool or 'sent' as you rightly said does not essentially mean a man. In Quran, ordinary messengers and some malaika are also referred to as rasool. A rasool can be a message and al rasool the message which is Quran.

In 47:33 there is no Muhammad. Now we can obey the message as the messenger is no more.
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OT … mean while … this is happening in Syria
written by fineliving56 , July 29, 2012
There is estimated more then 250 Muslim women who became with a child after they were RAPED by Muslim men from the other side either Sunnis and shiites

It was announsed in Syrain TV which is Under Assad control ..

Today 80 tanks move into Aleppo where all my family lived and the shelling is underway as we speak …

there ...no food … no gas … no electricity … only an hour a day .. I spoke with my sister … she is fearful for her son and young daughters for rapes … but she resigned to the fact that she might be killed under the onslaught of bombs where she lives …. one of my young family member women was accused of being an activist against Assad and she was taken and now no one heard from her …

There is so many stories like that … it is beyond mind comprehending … it is a disaster …
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@fine living 56
written by balam , July 29, 2012
It is saddening to read about the predicament your family is in along with other unfortunate Syrians in SYRIA.All the Muslim world is in turmoil.Only God knows,WHY.I hope and pray that PEACE prevails at last.No muslim country has PEACE because they do not follow the PRINCE OF PEACE.THOSE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD,THEY ALSO DIE BY THE SWORD.Guess who said that?It was not Mohammad.
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findliving56
written by dead or aliive , July 29, 2012
War,what is it good for,absolutely nothing.It is said,`The truth is the frist casualty of war.`
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@Reed Wilson
written by balam , July 29, 2012
Sura 47:33,this verse shows the exact words of Abu Bakr after the death of Mohammad to MUSLIMS.Which proves that Quran is not the word of Allah.Do you understand that,Mr.Reed or what ever your Mohammadan name is?
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Ten Commandments
written by Aisha , July 29, 2012
Actually the Ten Commandments were given to Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) carried it forward. You are not just mocking muslims but the christians and jews too. What is really sad here is that you claim that Islam spreads hate and evil when in fact it is you that is doing so here. You may not agree with what other people believe but having respect for your fellow man is only civilised behaviour and good manners.
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To Aisha
written by Archpagan , July 29, 2012
So-called ten commandments is the first original sin of mankind. It has no religious or spiritual contents- but having only a political goal of achieving unity among a group of people. For the Jews it had the goal of achieving unity among Hebrew speaking people. There was no religious or spiritual justification to condemn polytheism and idolatry as sin at par with stealing and falsehood. It makes us Pagans the veritable demon on earth.

The second original sin was committed by the Christians by inventing the concept of religious conversion which is was absurd as change of one's ancestors. This invention only served the political need of the Roman Empire.

The third original was committed by Mohammad who imparted a halo of sanctity to violence and falsehood by the name of 'Jihad' in the way of God. It served the imperial and colonial ambition of the desert pirates of Arabia. Muslims around the world are its poor victims

It is civilizational imperative of mankind to get rid of those original sins. The first task before the mankind is to deny the Muslims whatever they have achieved by using brute force in the holy name of God. Let us recapture Kaaba and restore it to the the people it originally belonged to i. e. the polytheists.

God is infinite , He can not be entrapped in a so-called holy book or message received by scoundrels.
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 29, 2012
balam." Sura 47:33,this verse shows the exact words of Abu Bakr after the death of Mohammad to MUSLIMS.Which proves that Quran is not the word of Allah.Do you understand that,Mr.Reed or what ever your Mohammadan name is?

What a proof balamwa!!

Verse 47:33 says:

"Believers, obey God and the Messenger and do not invalidate your deeds."

I was not at the death bed of Abubakar.
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Reed
written by Abc , July 29, 2012
Dont worry about snake man balam.
He is drunk on Constantine jesus juice with a hint of Paul.
Infact it's case of very little Jesus in the juice!
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@Reed Wilson
written by balam , July 30, 2012
My sincerest apologies for errantly mis quoting the Verse 47:33.It seems that the SATAN whispered that into my ear.This verse only equates Allah with Mohammad to be obeyed equally.Is that not SHIRK? YOU CAN GET abc's help because fools seldom differ.
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About Abu Bakr
written by Gnostic , July 30, 2012
I think there are some quotes in the quran referring to people who only regpgnised certain parts of the quran and not all of it.

I think this must be a alter interpolation with the background that not all early muslims accepted the quran completed by Abu bakr and his successors. It is very unlikely that there was serious disagreements during Muhammads lifetime.
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succinct summation
written by Guy Macher , July 30, 2012
Once the Koran is pruned there is little left but hate. No wonder barbarians love Islam. It is mindless and violent. I can't see where even the most rabid Muslim barrows can argue with this summation of the Doctrine of Evil. Well done!
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Aisha, with respect, please distinquish war with words only with acts of violence and oppression
written by Demsci , July 30, 2012
Aisha: "What is really sad here is that you claim that Islam spreads hate and evil when in fact it is you that is doing so here. You may not agree with what other people believe but having respect for your fellow man is only civilised behaviour and good manners."

I respect you and see your point, but .... the situation is more complicated than that. First of all, there is freedom of speech. And that is worth nothing if we restrict that to something that hurts no people. Because people can say they are hurt even when the speaker did not mean to hurt.

And we do not say something like; Oh, Islam spreads disrespectful, insulting words but otherwise it is OK. No, we, democratic citizens, do Insult, but on principle do not carry out violence or incite to violence. But, we say, that Islam really has a bad influence, and Muslims kill, oppress because of Islam. In part of course, this is not about all Islam and all Muslims.

Yes, many Muslims are innocent.

But: among those who are hurt are violent, oppressive Muslims, guilty Muslims, and those who would support and shield them. And these Muslims we accuse, using the part of Islam we accuse, we think they made and make many victims and can make many more.

And look, is it not good of us to speak up against those who made, make and may make those victims and those who support these killers/ oppressing Muslims?

But, here is the essence, we do not react to violence and oppression with the same violence and oppression, but only with words, insults. But they only hurt FEELINGS, of those who hurt BODIES.
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Addendum
written by Gnostic , July 30, 2012
It is the last 20 per cent of Surah 15 which refer to Surah 1 and to people who only recongnised parts of the quran. While this Surah is supposed to be of meccan origin it makes little sense during Muhammads lifetime.

The text probably refers to the later composition of the quran by uthman or whoever was responsible for this waork.
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 30, 2012
Gnostic. Maccan origin and Madanan origin. Where you get all that?

Do you review any book any book like that? Is there any mention of this Quran?
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Addendum
written by Gnostic , July 30, 2012
I wrote that the Surah is SUPPOSED to be written in Mecca according to islamic tradition.

I can only repeat that the surah refers to a dispute about the composition of the quran but this dispute did probably not happen before the final redaction which in turn was the job of Uthman according to muslilm scholars.
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Aisha/Reed, Hear is another version of the Islamic Ten Commandments
written by Islam-Watch Pastor , July 30, 2012
1.I am Allah and you shalt have No other Gods before Me but you can sweat with the moon, sun, and stars for they are superior to me.

2.Thou shalt not worship any carved images, but prostration facing the blackstone and kaab is not idolatry.

3.You shalt not take the name of thy Allah in vain, but only under the penalty of death or if being persecuted by an Infidel!

4.In addition, consider every Friday thy most holy day and gather to pray in mosques, because it is in the mosques that jihads are planned and executed and victory guaranteed.

5.Honor your father and thy mother, but only if they are Muslims, and honour them not if the disbelieve Islam and treat them as infidels.

6.Thou shalt not kill other fellow Muslims, unless they happen to be in the way of Jihad in My name. But don’t allow any infidel to live because slaughter is better than unbelief.

7.Thou shalt not commit adultery if you are a Muslim woman and if you do, then you will be buried in the ground up to your neck and stoned to death but not for a man because a man is permitted to have up to four and unlimited numbers of slaves besides a man have quick marriage that may last just for an hour or as short as he wishes it no sin.

8.Thou shalt not steal from fellow Muslims. But, you can do anything you
want to Infidels/unbelievers, for their wealth is for you to enjoy

9.Thou shalt not bear false witness against your Muslim neighbor, unless it furthers the cause of Islam. It is no sin if one tells lies for the furtherance of Islam.

10.Thou shalt not covet your Muslim neighbor's possessions, but are free to covet those of infidels/unbelievers, for their possessions are yours by right.

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To Demsci
written by Aisha , July 30, 2012
I agree with freedom of speech, and I agree that we should speak out against those who oppress others, who make victims of people, but this Islam that is being shown here is not the true Islam. I do not know this Islam, I have never seen it, this is the hijacked Islam. And you may not agree with other beliefs but would you go and then make a mockery of those beliefs? You isolate not just these oppressors but the muslims who are innocent. I came to this site to see a different opinion, a different side, because these people used to be muslims. But I find that they not just hate Islam but other muslims, like me, who wanted to understand them and who do not condone them for choosing something else. Religion is free from compulsion and I respect their choice. But here ALL muslims and ALL Islam are evil. I just find it absolutely baffling that they have taken that stance. So in their time as muslims the did not meet one nice muslim? No muslim who was a good friend to them, no family member? I apologise for going off on a tangent. I'm just confused.
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Islam-watch Pastor
written by Aisha , July 30, 2012
I don't understand what you are trying to say to me here. These commandments that you have written are not the ones that I know. Why do you turn to mock me when I came here to understand another opinion? I find your post, quite frankly, confusing and a bit strange. I take no offense with this post because this post is not how I live my life and I do not see it as part of Islam. Plus there's just so many things wrong with your statements that I can't even fathom where I should begin. I guess there's no point in trying to speak with you when you can't even see me as a person who has a right to believe whatever she chooses without being mocked or laughed at.
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Clement Islam-Watch Pastor.
written by Reed Wilson. , July 30, 2012
Clement this is Islam-Watch to tell the truth about Islam. It is not a suitable site for vending 'your' Christianity. Islam has no Ten Commandments. We have to follow entire message of Allah. Allah says:

َاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ

"Follow the best of what has been sent down from your Lord before the punishment overtakes you suddenly, while you are unaware' 39:55

Same message is for you if you care Clement the Pastor!!
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@malem
written by Proud Infidel , July 30, 2012
Your grasp of the undisputable fact that Islam is a violent political system hidden in "religion" is amazing. Another muslim fooled by his own establishment.
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Duh @ malem
written by Dwito , July 30, 2012
written by DeDoc, July 27, 2012

Duh ?? DeDoc, are you Duh_Swami in new pseudo? I'm exited. Your writing also matches him. Pl. reply. We all longed for you. Are you our good ol' Duh_Swami?
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 30, 2012
Aisha. You write "I take no offense with this post because this post is not how I live my life and I do not see it as part of Islam."

Even if it was, one should not get offended. This is what I gather from Quran.

When you see people mocking Our revelations, turn away from them so that they may change the subject. If Satan causes you to forget this, do not sit with the unjust people when you remember. But those who observe piety (commit no sin) by sitting with them in order to advise so that they, too, may become pious. 6:68-69

"Son, establish Prayer, enjoin all that is good and forbid all that is evil, and endure with patience whatever affliction befalls you. Surely these acts require courage;31:17

Like Jesus Christ, who was a Jew and became Christian, I found myself already a Muslim after studying Quran. Before that I remained ordinary Christian upto the age of about 65 years. For more than ten years I am a Christian who follows Quran.

Since Quran asks me to convey the message, I am doing that here also.
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Reed
written by Dwito , July 30, 2012
I found myself already a Muslim after studying Quran. For more than ten years I am a Christian who follows Quran.

Since Quran asks me to convey the message, I am doing that here also.


Does Qur'an asks you to convey only? Not to obey?
Did you obeyed Qur'an, Reed?
You declared that you follow Qur'an. Do you, Reed?
How many times did you followed? Pl. tell me.
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Aisha, can you side with good democratic citizens against bad Muslims?
written by Demsci , July 31, 2012
Thanks for your nice answer, Aisha. The ex-Muslims are now among counter-jihadists. The vast majority of them are to me Democratic citizens, in favor of democratic laws and values and human rights.

To them Islam is I. It's holy texts. II. It's official schools of thought. III. the multiple interpretations and practices of the holy texts by the 1,5 billion Muslims.

I suppose they will agree that not all of that is bad and dangerous, but not all of it is good and harmless either. Because at least a part of Islam is in pure contradiction with some democratic laws and human rights.

Of course they will acknowledge that there are many nice, well-behaved Muslims, but they see also many violent, oppressive, dangerous Muslims.

They will easily grant you that there are many bad "democratic citizens", but they belong to the so-called "good ones". And they may well choose "good Muslims" over "bad Democratic Citizens".

But, here is my, or our big question to Muslims: Can a part of the, if you will, good Muslims, without any reservations, ally themselves with the good democratic citizens against and over and above the bad Muslims?

Because that is what is perceived as badly missing among "good Muslims", according to many "good democratic citizens". You see, neutrality and silence of "good Muslims" is deeply suspected to mean that in the end almost all Muslims, "good" or "bad", will side against all Democratic Citizens, "good" and "bad". Can you answer to that?
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 31, 2012
Dwito. I will definitely tell you brother.

You asked "Does Qur'an asks you to convey only? Not to obey?

Obeying inter alia includes conveying.

"Did you obeyed Qur'an, Reed?

Yes I do.

"You declared that you follow Qur'an. Do you, Reed?

Following is obeying.

"How many times did you follow?

All the time. I enjoyed your sense of humor Dwito.

Help me find my lost friend duh-swami. Once he lamented Islamwatch is morphed as Reedwatch.
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Aisha, in order to help victims to protect their BODIES, yes, ex-Muslims sometimes insult innocent Muslims, but that only hurts their FEELINGS, not their BODIES.
written by Demsci , July 31, 2012
Aisha, you say; indeed people may differ in beliefs but they can and should respect each others belief. And I agree, but with exceptions. You say Religion is without compulsion. And we are one in that respect.

Freedom of religion is indeed very important, but in Democratic Nations we know that for instance Christians and Buddhists already think and behave as you and I like.

But in the Islamic Holy texts, Quran and Hadiths, are verses that are against what you and I agree on above. The prime example is that in the Hadiths there is deathpenalty for apostasy. All 4 sunni schools of thought and Al Azhar and many, many Muslims are shown demanding or in favor of that. There is also the verse of the sword which abrogates the non-compulsion-in-religion-verse. This is what the 4 schools of Islamic thought say and the Ex-Muslims know this and echo this.

Now this may well not be the Islam you know, due to the many different interpretations and practices of Islam. But now that you have come to hear a different opinion, you can try to understand that this is their Islam, the one they lived in.

And again, with freedom of speech, yes, the innocent Muslims are together with the oppressing, dangerous ones hurt in their feelings, like you are. But ONLY in their feelings, not in their bodies. But the oppressing, dangerous Muslims, they do hurt BODIES, sometimes even killing them. in the name of their Islam, reciting some of it's holy texts or holy schools/ leaders. So they make victims. And now, the sad problem is that in order to help those victims, we must insult innocent Muslims, because the distinction between so-called "bad" and "good" Muslims is impossible to make.
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To Desmsci, without comments.
written by Reed Wilson. , July 31, 2012
Ahmadinijad claims

Iran is home to the biggest population of Jews in the Middle East outside Israel. While the community faces limited discrimination, it is largely free to exercise the same rights as Muslims enjoy in the Islamic republic.

Like the country's Armenian, Assyrian and Zoroastrian minorities, it has one reserved seat in parliament.

The community played a prominent role in commercial life and supplied several prime ministers.

Maurice Motamed, the country's Jewish MP, has criticised Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denials of the Holocaust but is otherwise a staunch supporter of the radical president's foreign and security policies. "I am an Iranian first and a Jew second," he said.
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 31, 2012
Demsci. Sorry for not giving source of above. I give:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...-Iran.html
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written by Reed Wilson. , July 31, 2012
We should differentiate between good mulim, bad muslim and Islam.

Sometimes we make mistake by confusing them. We start with criticizing 'bad muslim' and revile Islam.

My feeling is that it is political charge which make a community bad. At the time freedom movement of India all Hindus were bad for Muslims and all Muslims were bad in eyes of Hindus. The situation is not same now.

When Palestinian issue resolved, things will change to some extent.

Clergy plays a role in hatred. It was clergy who suggested crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

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written by dead or aliive , July 31, 2012
The chief priests of the sanhedrin demanned the cruifixion of Jesus Christ.
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@ Dwito
written by DeDoc , August 01, 2012
Sadly I'm not Duh_Swami, but I do like to expose the Islamic dolts who are bereft of any sense of irony or intellectual humor. In their world piety is associated with an ueber serious attitude and literalism taken to the stupideth degree.
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To Reed Wilson
written by Archpagan , August 01, 2012
'Peaceful' Muslim may very well mean a terrorist running short of ammunition. For every terrorist strikes, all Muslims should be held complicit by acquiescence or connivance, if not by association alone. How many Muslims have so far PUBLICLY condemned 9/11? Even if a few had condemned, they eventually turned out to be secret cheerleaders or Taqqiya artist.
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 01, 2012
Archpagan. You dont believe those who condemned.

All that is political and a war is going on which should not be there. It is fasad fil arz in Quranic parlance.

Those doing this fasad may not know its impact which affects all, irrespective of religion, nationalities etc.

The hatred you are nurturing may be one factor of this menace.

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written by dead or alive , August 01, 2012
In the upside down,back stabing, secretive world of goble politics anything is possible.Suppose there is one coutry or religion supplying support for both sides in this`war on terror`.The only news the people know is what is funnel down from the top.
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 01, 2012
Gnostic. The problems you identified earlier. What if there is not apostle’s biography? We dont have biography of any apostle. Allah called him not more than a messenger and servant. He delivered the message and died. Now you have the message as you said. That message is for following.

I dont agree with Muslims that make biography if you dont have. Ridiculous!

"I do not think that there was one Muhammad who told the quaranic texts to the crowd. Nobody would have seen any use in it."

This you cant say.

"I think many texts were circulating even before Muhammad, I mean all the texts which are close to jewish and Christian texts such as Joseph, The Cave and some more, more or less arabised or still in arameic."

So what? Follow them. Allah will not mind. 'I think' should be confirmed.

"There are also some texts very close to Jewish-Christianity. The food rules at the beginning of The Table resemble very much some verses in Acts."

Honor them as per your conviction.

"Perhaps there was a pre-islamic community of hanifs who had similar doctrines like Jewish-christians. (Even the Gospels and the Gospel of Thomas suggest that some Jews were regarding Jesus as prophet".

So far so good. How Thomas, John, Matthew, Mark, Luke etc be authors of Gospel? They themselves honestly declare that these are their diaries. Anyway. I find some message of God there.

"Perhaps there are some layers from Muhammad himself in the texts supposed of meccan origin".

Its not a big deal. If it is meccan it will be meccan. What is important is the message. There are so many 'perhaps' about non issues. We dont read any book like that. We dont bother that it was first written with pencil and then with pen. These are trivial things which worry you. Test your Uthman hypothesis and accept or reject.

Yes, 'many errors and contradictions' should be matter of concern. You did not spell them out. I did not understand 'biblical vorlage' you mention.

Gnostic are you a Christian? I dont know your discipline and expertise. You should either do research yoursel if it is your field. There are such bodies who are busy in such research sincerely/impartially. You give loose arguments and assumptions on which one cannot moot.

Gnostic I am studying Quran for more than a decade. If you point out the 'contradictions and errors' I may discuss that and may accept or reject them.



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written by Reed Wilson. , August 01, 2012
dead or aliive. I could not make out much out of your above post. If you elaborate further, I may write something.

BTW I was concerned with your sight ailment and suggested you a recipe for retarding loss of sight and also for restoration. My post was detained for review. I hope it will appear.

In the meantime, best of luck.
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DeDoc
written by Dwito , August 01, 2012
Sad to know than my perception is wrong. I hope Duh is in a sentimental issue and will make up soon. After all this mission is nothing personal at all. We need him badly.

In other hand, it's a joys moment to me to have another gladiator with us. may God bless you and keep you well to continue your mission.

Thanking and welcoming you personally.
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Reed
written by Dwito , August 01, 2012
Dwito. I will definitely tell you brother.
You asked "Does Qur'an asks you to convey only? Not to obey?
Obeying inter alia includes conveying.

"Did you obeyed Qur'an, Reed?
Yes I do.

"You declared that you follow Qur'an. Do you, Reed?
Following is obeying.

"How many times did you follow?
All the time.

O Reed, you are a great man. How clear you are in your answers. But Reed, this man, Dwito is the stupidest person here. So he can't follow you properly. Could you pl. elaborate a bit for him, especially in the light of Quranic instruction, that, following the prophet is following Allah, and obeying prophet is obeying Allah. how do you obey and follow the rasool, Reed?


I enjoyed your sense of humor Dwito.
Help me find my lost friend duh-swami. Once he lamented Islamwatch is morphed as Reedwatch.

You are a genius reed. Sleep well, you hit at the right place with your sarcastic sting. I felt it.
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He only is worthy of following.
written by Reed Wilson. , August 02, 2012
D'wito. You write "But Reed, this man, Dwito is the stupidest person here. So he can't follow you properly. Could you pl. elaborate a bit for him, especially in the light of Quranic instruction, that, following the prophet is following Allah, and obeying prophet is obeying Allah. how do you obey and follow the rasool, Reed?

You are boastful D'wito. You could say 'one of the stupidest'. You forgot saying 'most stupidest'.

Your questions are not very simple and entire Muslim community feels same. Therefore you are not conspicuous for the title.

You ask "Could you pl. elaborate a bit for him, especially in the light of Quranic instruction, that, following the prophet is following Allah, and obeying prophet is obeying Allah".

Following 'messenger' is following Allah and obeying 'messenger' is obeying Allah is simple who knows Quran.

When you send a message through a messenger, it is obvious the recipient is following you by following your message. For obeying messenger, I have the view that 'obeying' is used for one who is present. This instruction is for lifetime of messenger. If he asks for a glass of water you must give him.

I used 'who knows Quran' above. I would know from Quran that Allah wants that he only should be followed through messenger/message. We find discussion on this at several places in Quran. For the sake of brevity I give here only one verse 10:35:

ُلْ هَلْ مِن شُرَكَائِكُم مَّن يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ ۚ قُلِ اللَّـهُ يَهْدِي لِلْحَقِّ ۗ أَفَمَن يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ أَحَقُّ أَن يُتَّبَعَ أَمَّن لَّا يَهِدِّي إِلَّا أَن يُهْدَىٰ ۖ فَمَا لَكُمْ كَيْفَ تَحْكُمُونَ

Say: 'Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth?' Say: 'God -- He guides to the truth; and which is worthier to be followed -- He who guides to the truth, or he who guides not unless he is guided? What then ails you, how you judge?'

He only guides to the truth, to the messenger also and he is only worthy of following.

I cant say that in a crowd of Muslims.
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 02, 2012
D'wito. I was apprehending that my post above will not appear.

Muslims generally believe that we can follow messenger through hadis. They are mistaken.

When I use M for muslim I mean so called muslims.

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written by Reed Wilson. , August 02, 2012
D'wito. I forgot thanking you for your kind words. THANK YOU.
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Reed
written by dead or alive , August 02, 2012
Thank you for the best wishes
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Reed/Aisha I see that you are offended at my version of Islamic Ten commandments
written by Islam-Watch Pastor , August 02, 2012
Please examine your scriptures and what you believe because my version and that of the author of this article truly reflect on the core teachings of Islam which you said are the commandment of Allah.

Reed said " Islam has no Ten Commandments. We have to follow entire message of Allah."
You are correct Islam has no Ten commandments in fact no commandments at all you have is religious rituals and laws that guaranteed the safety of Men at the expense of women. Mohammed kept none of Gods commandments even the so called sharia law he set for his people he never obeyed even one. The so called message of Allah was not binding on Mohammed. What a deceit.

Mohammed broke his law of one man four wives, he never kept the Sabbath, he assassinated all his critics and coveted the wife of his adopted son and got her divorced so that he could marry her, he forgave no one that has things that he coveted most like money, women and booty, as he did to the rich Jews of Medina and the Quraza Jews. The words of Allah are only obeyed to the extent that they satisfy his sensual and carnal yearnings and desires.

Once again you are right Islam has no Ten Commandments.

You said “Like Jesus Christ, who was a Jew and became Christian, I found myself already a Muslim after studying Quran. Before that I remained ordinary Christian up to the age of about 65 years. For more than ten years I am a Christian who follows Quran.”

You are also correct here, 65 years of being an ordinary Christian does not translate one to be a born again Christian. Don’t marvel, you must be born again otherwise you cannot see the kingdom of God.

Don’t deceive yourself Christianity cannot be found in the Quran. Jesus is not in the Quran. What is in the Quran is Isah who was born under a palm tree who did not die and resurrected but was taken to heaven without experiencing death, whose mother was Miriam the daughter of Imran who lived in Egypt 1300 years before Jesus was born of a virgin and declared to be the Son of God in Palestine not Egypt.

You had never been a christian. Your belief on christ messager of Allah is not enough to grant you eternal life. You must believe his divinity and sacrificial death as an atonment for the forgiveness of your sins before you can be saved.

Cheers
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 02, 2012
Clement. You write "Reed/Aisha I see that you are offended at my version of Islamic Ten commandments". Dont bother it is fine with me.

Had I died at the age of 65, was I qualified to enter in Kingdom of God? In whose kingdom am I these days?Is it not your fathers kingdom?

You said "Jesus is not in the Quran."

If he is not Quran, Jesus is nowhere. It is only Quran which confirms his existence. I quote a post here
written by Mozlem , August 24, 2011
List of credible Jesuses
Jesus ben Sirach
Jesus ben Pandira
Jesus ben Ananias
Jesus Barabbas
Jesus ben Saphat
Jesus ben Gamala
Jesus ben Thebuth
Jesus ben Stada

The bigger trouble is nazareth did not exist utill 2nd century
More Bollox:- At the time that Joseph and the pregnant Mary are said to have gone off to Bethlehem for a supposed Roman census, Galilee (unlike Judaea) was not a Roman province and therefore ma and pa would have had no reason to make the journey.
Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no ‘universal census’ ordered by Augustus (nor any other emperor) – and Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count.
I unquote.

You write "What is in the Quran is Isah who was born under a palm tree who did not die and resurrected but was taken to heaven without experiencing death, whose mother was Miriam the daughter of Imran who lived in Egypt 1300 years before Jesus was born of a virgin and declared to be the Son of God in Palestine not Egypt".

What is Hebrew of Jesus and Mary?
Quran does not say they were there in Egypt. Quran does not say he did not die.

You didnt tell me how you were so sure about gender of Aisha Ahmad?


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Reed
written by Dwito , August 02, 2012
He only is worthy of following.


Almost a year ago, when I was a novice here, an article... Prophet Mo was an apostate to Islam, created sensation among us. Are you subscribing to that notion, Reed?

You are boastful D'wito.

Sorry if I transgress my propriety. I always deserved to be benign. Thank you for the remainder.

You could say 'one of the stupidest'.

Do I? How? everyone here express more intelligence here. Well if you consider Muslims like malem or abc's, then that's another words. I usually don't consider Muslims proper human beings.

You forgot saying 'most stupidest'.


Yes, you are right. I am a polytheist. Thus I have the right to use multi-superlatives. Grammar should not bar me practicing my faith.

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Admn.
written by Dwito , August 02, 2012
Pl. don't lock this topic. I want another day to come.
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@malem
written by Proud Infiedl , August 03, 2012
What's really funny is that you think the article is a joke. The truth is that every one of those numbered statements is based on an actual event or events that Islam has engaged in. Islam is a violent, oppressive cult and has proved itself one again and again and again.
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following the commandments of allah
written by bundypig , August 03, 2012
along with their mother by Religion of Peace bombers.
2012.07.24PakistanJamrud11Islamic militants fire on a truck, killing the driver.
2012.07.24PakistanDarra Adamkhel07A Taliban 'toy bomb' injures seven children.
2012.07.24IraqKirkuk12A 10-year-old girl is pulled into pieces by an 'insurgent' bomb.
2012.07.24NigeriaKano20A married couple are murdered by pro-Sharia gunmen.
2012.07.24NigeriaKano10A high-school teacher is shot to death by Boko Haram.
2012.07.24NigeriaGwamaja10A cleric is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.07.24IraqBaqubah329Three passersby are killed when terrorists blow up a parked bus.
2012.07.24IraqTuz Khormato60al-Qaeda is suspected in the murder of six Kurdish intelligence officers.
2012.07.24AfghanistanParwan30Two Afghans and an American engineer are machine-gunned by Sunni fundamentalists.
2012.07.24AfghanistanGhor70Seven children are torn to shreds by a Taliban bomb.
2012.07.23IraqBaghdad1796An additional seventen Iraqs are reported dead from small arms attacks and bombings claimed by the Islamic State of Iraq.
2012.07.23NigeriaBulumkutu30Three men are assassinated by suspected Islamists in separate attacks.
2012.07.23NigeriaMaiduguri50Five people lose their lives to Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.07.23IraqDiwaniya532al-Qaeda 'insurgents' car bomb a vegetable market, killing at least five patrons.
2012.07.23IraqUdhaim1323Thirteen Iraqis are mowed down at point blank range by al-Qaeda gunmen.
2012.07.23IraqBaquban37Jihadis exterminate three Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
2012.07.23IraqBaghdad624Six Shiites are blown to bits by Sunni bombers while relaxing at a cafe.
2012.07.23NigeriaBauchi110Sharia advocates set off a bomb near a local bar, killing a 6-year-old boy.
2012.07.23IraqKirkuk1247At least a dozen people are shot or blown up by a series of al-Qaeda attacks.
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following the commandments of allah #2
written by bundypig , August 03, 2012
2012.07.26PhilippinesSumisip522Abu Sayyaf terrorists attack a Christian farming village, killing at least five.
2012.07.26ThailandYala10Muslim militants shoot a local several times in the torso.
2012.07.26PakistanKhar1523Religion of Peace militants detonate a shrapnel bomb at a crowded market which kills fifteen people, including those dying later in the hospital.
2012.07.26NigeriaBauchi31Suspected Islamists ambush a group of policemen, killing three.
2012.07.26PhilippinesSumisip1017An Abu Sayyaf clash wtih local troops responsing to a prior massacre leaves ten dead.
2012.07.26ThailandYala20Two villagers are machine-gunned by Islamic 'insurgents'.
2012.07.26PakistanAkka Khel34Three people outside a mosque are blown to bits by Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.07.26EgyptShubra el Khayma01A Christian doctor is brutally blinded by Salafist Muslims after asking them to stop firing weapons in celebration.
2012.07.26IraqHadid110Eleven security personnel are killed in an al-Qaeda ambush.
2012.07.25SyriaHoms90News breaks of nine Alawite bus passengers are split off from the rest and decapitated by Sunnis.
2012.07.25ThailandYala51Muslim 'separatists' kill five police officers with a bomb hidden in a car.
2012.07.25PakistanDabori30Three defenders are killed during a Taliban ambush of a local post.
2012.07.25PakistanBara10Islamists kidnap a 70-year-old man, slit his throat and then spray him with bullets.
2012.07.25IraqDiyala412Four local cops are killed by Muslim terrorists.
2012.07.25NigeriaBorno30Three people are killed in an Islamist ambush.
2012.07.25NigeriaMaiduguri23Sharia fanatics attack an Indian-owned business and murder the owners.
2012.07.25JordanJerash10An honor killer stabs his sister and then runs over her several times with a truck after suspecting her of 'immoral behavior'.
2012.07.25PakistanGulbehar10A 14-year-old girl is murdered when Lashkar e Jhangvi gunmen attack a Shia ceremony.
2012.07.25IraqAd-Dawr54Four children under the age of 10 are dismantled along with their mother by Religion of Peace bombers.
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following the commandments of allah #3
written by bundypig , August 03, 2012
2012.08.02IraqBaghad724Women are among the casualties when Sunnis bomb a market in a Shiite neighborhood.
2012.08.01AfghanistanJalrez40Four civilians are kidnapped and murdered by the Taliban.
2012.08.01SomaliaMogadishu60Six guards are taken apart by two Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2012.08.01PakistanLagharai Thal10Religious radicals gun down a school teacher.
2012.07.31IraqBaghdad1535Jihadis bomb a passport office, killing fifteen innocent people waiting in line.
2012.07.31IraqBaghdad721A car bombing outside a restaurant leaves seven dead.
2012.07.31IraqMosul13A man is killed, and his baby, mother and wife injured in their own home by Muslim terrorists.
2012.07.31ThailandPattani24Islamic militants fire into a tea shop, killing two patrons.
2012.07.30NigeriaSokoto10Three Boko Haram gunmen shoot a shoe-shine worker to death.
2012.07.30AfghanistanTarinkot50Five civilians at a mosque are sent straight to Allah by Religion of Peace bombers.
2012.07.29IraqMuqdadiya413Jihadi bombers take down four civilians.
2012.07.29AfghanistanChak11A man is killed and his young so injured in an ambush by Sunni fundamentalists.
2012.07.29YemenRadah10A 14-year-old boy is cut to pieces by an al-Qaeda bomb.
2012.07.29IraqFallujah79Seven local cops are bombed or shot to death by Ramadan terrorists.
2012.07.29NigeriaKano22An air force officer is ambushed and killed by Muslim gunmen along with his aide.
2012.07.29MaliAguelhok20A married couple is buried up to their necks and stoned to death for adultery.
2012.07.29ThailandPattani10A 45-year-old man is shot three times in the head by Islamic terrorists.
2012.07.29NigeriaKano20Two Christians are gunned down outside their homes by Boko Haram Islamists.
2012.07.28ThailandPattani42Four Thai soldiers are brutally shot to death at close range by Muslim terrorists.
2012.07.28ThailandPattani20A teenager is among two Buddhists murdered by Muslim 'separatists.'
2012.07.28IraqSamarrah50Mujahideen shoot five women to death in their own home.
2012.07.28IndiaAnantnag24Two tourists are killed when Muslim militants toss a hand grenade at a taxi.
2012.07.28ThailandYala10A Muslim 'separatist' assassinates a rival Muslim in a mosque.
2012.07.27ThailandPattani10A 66-year-old man is gunned down in a Muslim ambush.
2012.07.27PakistanMardan60Jihadists shoot six people to death in separate attacks.
2012.07.27DagestanMakhachkala10A police officer is shot to death in his car by Islamic militants.
2012.07.27ThailandPattani11Militant Muslims fire on a young married couple, killing the 18-year-old woman.
2012.07.27SomaliaBaidoa43Four local soldiers are killed by an al-Shabaab bomb blast.
2012.07.27NigeriaMaiduguri70Suspected Boko Haram barge into four homes and murder seven residents.
2012.07.27PakistanQuetta10Wahhabi terrorists torture a Shiite man with knives and then kill him.
2012.07.27DagestanMakhachkala30Three people are killed when Islamic extremists set off a car bomb.
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muslim antipathy!
written by Kafirwala , August 03, 2012
Dear Bundypig, do you think any Islam apologists would be moved by the stats you give here of the day by day account of the Islamic terrorism in the world ? They would have made a hue and cry and beaten their chests feverishly if it was the other way round. When it is the hapless kuffar at the receiving end, they will pretend that they haven't heard anything and look the other way. That is their usual technique. For example, you ask the infamous Inhouse muslim apologist Reed Wilson or the coward Malem their response on these most inhuman activities, they will be quick to disown the perpetrators of these crimes as no true muslims and will wash off their hands. Such kind of comedians these gentle(?)men are. Time and again we are seeing this joke here. So, what I mean to say is that no use your providing statistics of muslim terrorism here. These a**holes will never acknowledge it, nor will they raise their little finger even to stop it.
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Reed
written by Islam-Watch Pastor , August 03, 2012
“What is Hebrew of Jesus and Mary? “
Jesus is Joshua in Hebrew and Yesuh in Arabic not Isah.
No contention on the name of Mary ,but Mary Mother of Jesus was not the daughter of Imran that was the problem.

You said “Quran does not say they were there in Egypt. “
Quran was referring to Miriam the daughter of Imran not the mother of Jesus. The Quran did not give the lineage of Mary the Mother Isah but the Bible gave that of Jesus and they are not the same no where is Imran who was of the tribe of Levy mention as the ancestor of Jesus who was from the tribe of Judah.
You said “Quran does not say he did not die. “
Tell us where the Quran said he died. The Quran said Allah deceived the disciples of Jesus and took his servant alive to heaven. Tell us where he died. Remember one of Allah ‘s names is a Deceiver.

You asked “You didnt tell me how you were so sure about gender of Aisha Ahmad?”
No one who is conversant with Islamic scriptures who will miss the name Aisha for a male she was the favorite child bride of Mohammed who was molested at the age of 9 under the disguise of Marriage. A favorite name among Muslim ladies. One out of 5 women in Islam is an Aisha.

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written by Reed Wilson. , August 03, 2012
Clement You write "Tell us where the Quran said he died. The Quran said Allah deceived the disciples of Jesus and took his servant alive to heaven. Tell us where he died."

If Quran did not say he died, will it mean that he is alive? Quran doesnt tell about death of Abrahim, Ismail, Joseph, David, Moses etc.. Are they all alive?

"The Quran said Allah deceived the disciples of Jesus and took his servant alive to heaven".

Where in Quran Clement?

"No one who is conversant with Islamic scriptures ... under the disguise of Marriage. A favorite name among Muslim ladies. One out of 5 women in Islam is an Aisha."

We are talking of our Aisha Ahmad, author, not any Muslim woman. Aisha Ahmad could be s pseudonym of a male. You said your sure of her femininity.

You mention some mistakes in Bible which I will ignore for the time being.

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written by Reed Wilson. , August 04, 2012
Clement of Pastor. You inform me "Jesus is Joshua in Hebrew and Yesuh in Arabic not Isah.

My report tells:
Joshua (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ‎‎ Yĕhôshúa‘; Greek: Ἰησοῦς, Arabic: يوشع بن نون‎ Yūshaʿ ibn Nūn), is a figure in the Torah, being one of the spies for Israel (Num 13-14) and in few passages as Moses' assistant. He is the central character in the Hebrew Bible's Book of Joshua. According to the books Exodus, Numbers and Joshua, he became the leader of the Israelite tribes after the death of Moses; his name was Hoshe'a the son of Nun, of the tribe of Ephraim, but Moses called him Yehoshu'a (Joshua) (Numbers 13:16) the name by which he is commonly known; and he was born in Egypt prior to the Exodus, and was probably the same age as Caleb, with whom he is occasionally associated.

He was one of the twelve spies of Israel sent by Moses to explore the land of Canaan. (Numbers 13:1-16) After the death of Moses, he led the Israelite tribes in the conquest of Canaan, and allocated the land to the tribes. According to Biblical chronology, Joshua lived between 1500–1390 BCE, or sometime in the late Bronze Age. According to Joshua 24:29, Joshua died at the age of 110.

Although some Muslims see Joshua as a prophet, others view him not as prophet but as a saintly man and great leader.
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua

About Jesus my reporters say

Jesus ( /ˈdʒiːzəs/; Latin: Iesus; Hebrew: ישוע; Arabic: عيسى‎ Isa; Greek: Ἰησοῦς Iēsous 7-2 BC/BCE to 30–36 AD/CE), also referred to as Jesus Christ or simply Christ (i.e. Messiah), is the central figure of Christianity, whom most Christian denominations worship as God the Son incarnated.

The large majority of modern historians agree that Jesus existed.
source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

In my language Jesus is Jose and J is pronounced as H. Hence Hoze

Therefore Isa in Quran is Jesus.
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To Reed Wilson
written by Yibel , August 04, 2012
Oh ye of little faith...
As it turns out, the town of Nazareth DID EXIST at the time of Christ/Messiah (Yah'shua/Jesus). A recent archeological dig has turned up a synagogue, an Israelite-style home, a number of cave tombs with rolling stone doors, and evidence of a Roman garrison nearby. The area was an important grain-growing region, and there was a town with a threshing floor and grainmill just a few miles away. Nazareth was leveled either during the revolt of 70 CE or the Bar Kokeba (Son of the Star) Revolt of 132-135CE.

Also, your history knowledge is sadly lacking as well...
The Galilee region was part of the kingdom of Judaea and not yet a Roman province at the time that Yah'shua was born. While the Romans controlled ALL of the area - including what is now Lebanon and Syria - Herod, surnamed the Great (an Idumean/Edomite, a descendant Esau - BTW, one of his wives was a Jew named Miriam), was made king of the region by the Romans and reigned from 37 to 4 BCE. After his death, his sons inherited his kingdom: Archelaus, the eldest, was named ethnarch (ruler) of Judea; Herod Antipas (the beheader of John, the Baptist) was named tetrarch of Galilee (4BCE - 39CE); and Philip was made tetrarch of the region known as Ituraea -- just as the Bible says (Luke 3:1).

It wasn't until Archelaus was banished to Vienna, Gaul (Austria) in 6CE, that Judea, Samaria and Idumea were annexed (made a province of Rome) and placed under imperial governors or procurators.

The Romans took periodic imperial censuses for the purpose fiscal assessment. for example, it is a matter of history that the census of 6 or 7 CE was met the almost universal resistance on the part of the Jews and, while nothing came of it at the time, there was a call for an uprising in the name of religion. This census led to the start of a group called Zealots who advocated for the termination of foreign domination which led to the first revolt of 70CE.
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christianity to islam
written by christ to muhammad , August 04, 2012
i am a muslim and this whole website is a load of garbage.
you all are jealous of islam. :)
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written by Jye , August 04, 2012
Jesus’ name was never ‘Isa

Jesus’ mother tongue was Aramaic. In his own lifetime he was called Yeshua in Aramaic, and Jesu in Greek. This is like calling the same person John when speaking English and Jean when speaking French: Jesu, pronounced "Yesoo", is the Greek form of Aramaic Yeshua. (The final -s in Jesu-s is a Greek grammatical ending.) Yeshua is itself a form of Hebrew Yehoshua’, which means ‘the Lord is salvation’. However Yehoshua’ is normally given in English as Joshua. So Joshua and Jesus are variants of the same name.

It is interesting that Jesus' name Yehoshua’ contains within it the proper Hebrew name for God, the first syllable Yeh- being short for YHWH ‘the LORD’.

Yeshua of Nazareth was never called ‘Isa, the name the Qur’an gives to him. Arab-speaking Christians refer to Jesus as Yasou’ (from Yeshua) not ‘Isa.
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written by Jye , August 04, 2012
The Hebrew scriptures were Jesus’ Bible. He affirmed their authority and reliability and preached from them. From these same scriptures he knew God as Adonai Elohim, the Lord God of Israel. He did not call God Allah, which appears to have been the name or title of a pagan Arabian deity worshipped in Mecca before Muhammad. Muhammad's pagan father, who died before Muhammad was born, already bore the name ‘Abd Allah ‘slave of Allah’, and his uncle was called Obeid Allah.
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written by Jye , August 04, 2012
The Biblical narratives are rich with historical details, many confirmed by archaeology. They cover more than a thousand years, and reveal a long process of technological and cultural development. In contrast the Qur’an’s sacred history is devoid of archaeological support. Its fragmentary and disjointed stories offer no authentic reflection of historical cultures. No place name from ancient Israel is mentioned, not even Jerusalem. Many of the supposed historical events reported in the Qur’an have no independent verification. For example we are told that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba in Mecca (Al-Baqarah 2:127), but this is totally without support. The Biblical account, more than a thousand years older, does not place Abraham anywhere near Arabia.
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 04, 2012
Yibel. " Oh ye of little faith...
As it turns out, the town of Nazareth DID EXIST ...... Romans took periodic imperial censuses for the purpose fiscal assessment. for example, it is a matter of history that the census of 6 or 7 CE was met the almost universal resistance on the part of the Jews and, while nothing came of it at the time, there was a call for an uprising in the name of religion. This census led to the start of a group called Zealots who advocated for the termination of foreign domination which led to the first revolt of 70CE".

I dont know why you did so much of labor for me. Thank you anyway. I never studied history and I gave the source for the info
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written by Jye , August 04, 2012

‘Isa (Jesus) of the Qur’an is a product of fable, imagination and ignorance. When Muslims venerate this ‘Isa, they have someone different in mind from the Yeshua or Jesus of the Bible and of history. The ‘Isa of the Qur’an is based on no recognized form of historical evidence, but on fables current in seventh century Arabia.

When Muhammad linked the name of Allah to the religious histories of Judaism and Christianity, this was a way to claim them for Islam. In the light of later events, the claim that Islam was the original religion, and that all preceding prophets were Muslims, can be regarded as an attempt to appropriate the histories of other religions for Islam. The effect is to rob Christianity and Judaism of their own histories.
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To Reed Wilson
written by Yibel , August 04, 2012
You're Welcome! But there was no labor - as you put it - involved. I have numerous history books on my book shelf and I have read them, so it took only a few minutes of my time to correct your misinformation. Also, archaeology is my passion - particularly Biblical.

I also study linguistics, and Isa is the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew name Esau.
Esau (means "hairy") was the brother of Jacob/Yakov, the patriarch of the Hebrews/Israelites. Esau's descendants became known as Edomites and they inhabited the Seir region of northern Arabia. A common name among the Edomites is Omar/Umar.

Another piece of information you might find interesting is the Talmud contains the written record of the trial of Yah'shua. Jews are quite well aware of his existence and his impact on Jewish thought is felt to this day.
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written by Reed Wilson. , August 05, 2012
Yibel. Thank you.

I dont hold all those qualifications. I am impressed. I gave you the source from where I copied. You must make a correction there. It is provided and solicited.

You didnt tell me to which sect of Christianity you belong. It will help in our future interaction.


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