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Jerry Sandusky and Prophet Muhammad - The Tale of Two Pedophiles

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The prime duty of mankind is to raise the children in a safe environment, and properly care and educate them, so that they can progress into responsible adults. Sexual exploitation of children is a horrible crime, which totally destroy their self-esteem, and mentally condemn them to a life of psychological torment. Their innocence thus spoiled, they become part of the living dead.

Recently Jerry Sandusky was charged with 45 counts of child molestation involving 10 young boys over a 15 year period while he was Penn State’s Football coach. The sexual abuse involved hugging, kissing, sexual touching and, in some cases, oral and anal sex.

But what of Prophet Muhammad, who sexually abused and molested a child, namely Aisha. Muhammad, aged 51, married Aisha, aged 6, and had sex with her when she turned 9. But sexual abuse started immediately after the marriage at six, as Muhammad used to do thighing with Aisha until she became capable of sustaining penetration. All acts of sexual gratifications and penetration by an adult man with a child, whether 6 or 9, are sexual abuse and rape of the child. There is no consensual sex between a child-wife and her so-called husband. All acts of sex between Prophet Muhammad and Aisha were acts of child-rape and pedophilia. Indeed, all acts of sex between Muhammad and his sex-slave turned wives were acts of rape (Juwariyah bint al-Harith a prisoner of war captured after the defeat of Banu Musta'liq. Safiyyah bint Huyay, a prisoner of war following an assault on Khaybar. Both her father and brother had died during the war. Mariyah, a Coptic slave girl.)

Jerry Sandusky is a monster child rapist and has been condemned to what he deserves. But he was no prophet of God. Muhammad – being an alleged prophet of God whom Muslims must emulate for eternity – by molesting and raping a child also set an ideal example, a Sunna, which Muslim men must practice at all times and place. And this horrible act is also sanctioned by Quran 65:4, which contains Allah's divine sanction of marrying and having sex with pre-pubescent girls. Allah, the God of Islam, is pedophile monster, who gave blessings to child sex abuse and rape. And Muhammad, Allah's pedophile prophet, practiced exactly that.

Prophet Muhammad consummated, aka raped, Aisha, aged 9

Tabari IX:131

(Aisha said) "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet CONSUMMATED his marriage with me in my house when I was NINE years old."

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:

Narated by 'Aisha "That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years" (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151

Narrated 'Aisha: "I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girlfriends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place), they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me." (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty. -- Fateh-al-Bari, Vol. 13, p. 143)

So, 1,400 years ago, Aisha was a happy young child, aged 6, playing with her girl friends with her dolls and swinging on her swing. That's when she met a sexual predator, Muhammad, aged 51.

Muhammad's Thighing with Aisha for sexual pleasures until she turned 9

The Permanent Committee for the Scientific Research and Fatwas (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad Al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar).

After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:

"As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed HIS [MALE] MEMBER BETWEEN HER THIGHS AND MASSAGED IT SOFTLY, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers."

Nothing can get sicker than this!

Muhammad Would Bath With and Fondle Aisha

Bukhari (6:298)

Narrated 'Aisha: "The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses)."

Aisha Would Wash Semen Stains off Muhammad’s Clothes

Bukhari (4:231) – Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 231:

Narrated SulaImam bin Yasar: “I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible."

Muhammad’s sleeping with menstruating Aisha

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 11, Number 2161:

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin (Aisha): "I and the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to lie in one cloth at night while I was menstruating. If anything from me smeared him, he washed the same place (that was smeared), and did not wash beyond it. If anything from him smeared his clothe, he washed the same place and did not wash beyond that, and prayed with it (i.e. the clothe)."

Muhammad Would Recite Quran While Lying With Menstruating Aisha

Bukhari (93:639) – The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Muhammad Would Sexually Abuse His Wives

Bukhari (6:300) – Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menses.

Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299:

Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad: …(on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."

Sahih Muslim, Vol. I, p. 590:

Aisha said: "If anyone of us was having her menstrual period, Allah’s Messenger ordered her to come to him for sexual intercourse while she is on the peak of her period."

Maymuna said: “The Messenger of Allah used to have sexual intercourse with me during my menstrual period, while a piece of garment is between us.”

What a sickly pervert this Prophet of Allah was! He would not spare his wives even during their menses. Well, what to complain when Allah, the Islamic God, could say:

"Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will." (Quran 2:223)

Like Allah, like Prophet!

The Prophet Would Do All His Wives in One Night

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn't hard to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men."

Jerry Sandusky is a pedophile monster, who has destroyed innocence of 10 young boys. And he has been condemned to his deserving place. But what about Prophet Muhammad? Muhammad, by engaging in child sex abuse and rape, has set an example of ideal sexual conduct for world's huge Muslim community to do likewise for all eternity. And Muslims, at least the deeply pious ones, have been repeating the same to increase their virtues and chances for finding a place in Allah's Paradise ever since, and will continue to do so until end of the world. The crime of Muhammad's pedophilia is undoubtedly much much much greater, probably never to be surpassed by another man.

So, the question is: When will Prophet Muhammad, the greatest pedophile in history, be reduce to his deserving place?

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Jake Neuman is the author of “Islam and Sharia Law Are Treason: Jihad Is Treason” and “Prophet Muhammad (AKA ALLAH): Monster of History”  “Allah Is Not God. Allah (of the Quran) Never Existed. Allah AKA Muhammad”.  His book ISLAM EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD™ was banned in Malaysia.

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written by Saif Ul-Haq , June 30, 2012
I cannot believe these words but I know they are true. It hurts. Does it hurt because you are writing them or because I knew it already? Allah help me. Please Allah stregthen my faith against these kufr. I belive in Allah, Muhammad was just a man and was fallible as men are even if he was ma'soom (perhaps even because of it). Allah forgive him his tresspasses against the mother of the faithful. Ya 'aisha thou art blessed. Allah help me please. Do you have to revel in such calumny? Why cant you tell the truth without the name calling?
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to saif...allah is imaginary
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , June 30, 2012


allah did not create man from mud/dirt.man evolved y nature.koran is a book created by muhamed using an imaginary being allah to scare people to do as he wanted.that is all.

i left jihadislm when i realsied it in 1992.

saif u also leave islam.

even kamasutra is better than koran 100000 percent
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Saif
written by abc , June 30, 2012
Are you having a crisis? Every month or so they re hash the same arguments.
This time jake the Jew has tried to link a Sandusky!
Take one part of his argument and research it.
It falls apart. I remember having a back and forth with fineliving about the same topics discussed above a couple of months ago!
All of it has been refuted by Islamic sources!

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How old??
written by abc , June 30, 2012
Aisha was married in 622 C.E., and although her exact birthday is unknown, Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari recorded that it happened before Islam was revealed in 610. The earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, Abu Muhammad 'Abd al-Malik bin Hisham's recension of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah -- The Life of the Messenger of God records that Aisha accepted Islam shortly after it was revealed -- 12 years before her marriage -- and there is no way she could have done so as an infant or toddler.
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How old
written by abc , June 30, 2012
Furthermore, it is a matter of incontrovertible historical record that Aisha was involved in the Battles of Badr in 624 and Uhud in 625, in neither of which was anyone under the age of 15 allowed.
Finally, Imam Wali-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Khatib, dead for more than 700 years, recorded in the biographical section of Miskat al-Masabih that Asma, her elder sister of 10 years, died at the age of 100, 72 years after Aisha's wedding. This makes Aisha's age at the time of her marriage at least 14, and at the time of her marriage's consummation almost 20.
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How old???
written by abc , June 30, 2012
The cause of the confusion is simple. Imam Bukhari, compiler of the famous Hadith collection (Hadith in this context meaning stories about Muhammad) Sahih Bukhari included one recalling that Aisha said she was 6 when betrothed and 9 when she was wed. However, Bukhari included another recording that Aisha was a young girl and remembered when Surah Al-Qamar was revealed -- 9 years before her wedding -- as well. Obviously, both Hadiths can't be true, and that's the problem with relying too much on Hadiths, and too little on the Quran and common sense.
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Jake the Jew
written by abc , June 30, 2012
" Indeed, all acts of sex between Muhammad and his sex-slave turned wives were acts of rape (Juwariyah bint al-Harith a prisoner of war captured after the defeat of Banu Musta'liq. Safiyyah bint Huyay, a prisoner of war following an assault on Khaybar. Both her father and brother had died during the war. Mariyah, a Coptic slave girl."

That's a load of revisionist lunacy!

Here is a summary of the prophets wives. Have a read and get educated!

http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/ibn_kathir_wives.html

You are welcome!!!
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@abc
written by balam , June 30, 2012
Weep I not but my heart bleeds for you, abc .It is sad that you have to defend a PEDO.in the court of HUMANITY.Just accept the TRUTH about Mohammad whom you worship more than allah.It was not his fault.It was DIVINE planning for his life to come and enjoy life to his full satisfaction.At least,he died with a big GRIN on his holy face.Ayesha should have stopped him from going into high gear which caused his early death.WE should learn a lesson from his life.Strange fits of passion,I have known as well.
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Balam
written by abc , June 30, 2012
Im good man! Don't worry about me! You guys just bring it!
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Islamic Scholar Confesses, Prophet Muhammad Had Sex With His 9 Year Old Wife Aisha
written by Aisha , June 30, 2012

Islamic Scholar Confesses, Prophet Muhammad Had Sex With His 9 Year Old Wife Aisha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTRtIxN1kjY

Ali Sina Article


http://islam-watch.org/AliSina/AyeshaAge.htm
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Taqiyyah surrounding Aisha's age
written by Editor, M A Khan , June 30, 2012
So long there will be the few deceptive Muslims, one in a thousand if not in a million, there will always be this deceptive denial of Aisha's age being nine at the time Muhammad had sex with her. The good thing is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are at least honest as far as issues about their religion is concerned, and they are ready to chop the deceptive few if they deny the hadith standing on the streets of Mecca, Cairo, Kabul, Islamabad or Tehran. The fact that Aisha's age was nine when Muhammad penetrated her is so overwhelming that these deceptive few Muslims only make themselves a laughing stock by desperately trying to deny the undeniable. Yes, it is undeniable -- which you can be sure of right here: To Rid Islam of Pedophilia, Muslims Must Discard Both the Quran and Hadith http://islam-watch.org/authors...adith.html
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ABC is a LIAR
written by Guy Macher , June 30, 2012
Aisha was 14? Playing with dolls? The resident takiya expert thinks all of us are ignorant.
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Raping of Juwayriyya bint Harith and SAFIYYA bint Huyayy Part 1 See Part 2 Next
written by Aisha , June 30, 2012
Earlier one of commentators asked that readers go to

http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/ibn_kathir_wives.html and "Here is a summary of the prophets wives. Have a read and get educated!" quoting writer of article '" Indeed, all acts of sex between Muhammad and his sex-slave turned wives were acts of rape (Juwariyah bint al-Harith a prisoner of war captured after the defeat of Banu Musta'liq. Safiyyah bint Huyay, a prisoner of war following an assault on Khaybar. Both her father and brother had died during the war. Mariyah, a Coptic slave girl." "That's a load of revisionist lunacy! " claimed thjis commentator.

I did as requested. Following are my disgusting comments:


Juwayriyya bint Harith

Muhammad was no prophet of peace. He was a killer conqueror who murdered and enslaved his captives for booty “ and as a result of the Muslims ' successful campaign against the Banu Mustaliq who were swiftly defeated after the Prophet's surprise attack.” Booty and prisoners were taken to Mecca “ After the Muslims had returned to Medina with their booty and prisoners, “ Juwayriyya bint Harith was taken as a prisoner by Muhammad.

Juwayriyya bint Harith agrees to marry Muhammad to save her people. “As soon as the marriage was announced, all the booty that had been taken from the Banu Mustaliq was returned, and all the captives were set free, for they were now the in laws of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).”

The immoral depravity of Islam and Muhammad is evil. To justify killing and murder in the name of God is evil. To take booty and slaves is an act of despicable evil. As the writer stated in his article - every act of sex between Muhammad and Juwayriyya was rape. Muhammad was no prophet of any God.

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Raping of Juwayriyya bint Harith and SAFIYYA bint Huyayy Part 2 See Part 3 Next
written by Aisha , June 30, 2012
SAFIYYA bint Huyayy

Muhammad murders Safiyya bint Huyayy, husband 'Kinanah’ and father. He tortures her husband by building a fire on his chest to force him to reveal where the treasure of Khaybar was hidden. When he refused Muhammad had him beheaded.

Sourcing Ibn Ishak, Tabari writes:

'Kinanah b. al-Rabi b. al-Huqyaq who had the treasure of B. Nadir was brought to the Messenger of God, who questioned him; but he denied knowing where it was. Then the messenger of God was brought a Jew who said to him, "I have seen Kinanah walk around this ruin every morning." The Messenger of God said to Kinanah: "What do you say? If we find it in your possession, I will kill you." "All right," he answered. The Messenger of God commanded that the ruin should be dug up, and some of the treasure was extracted from it. Then he asked him for the rest of it. Kinanah refused to surrender it; so the Messenger of God gave orders concerning him to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, saying, "torture him until you root out what he has." Al-Zubayr kept twirling his firestick in his breast until Kinanah almost expired; then the Messenger of God gave him to Muhammad b. Maslamah, who beheaded him to avenge his brother Mahmud b. Maslamah."'

Do you understand the evil I have just written. Muhammad - the first Muslim Terrorists horribly tortures and then murders the Jewish chieftain.

Muhammad then attacks and rapes Safiyya bint Huyayy in his tent. The Prophet was sixty years old and she was seventeen years old.

Muhammad had the power of life and death over his slaves.

Quoting

“Like Umm Habiba, Safiyya was the daughter of a great chief. The only person who could save her from becoming a slave after having enjoyed such a high position WAS THE PROPHET.”

The price Safiyya bint Huyayy had to pay to save herself was to submit to sexual rape by this evil man.

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Raping of Juwayriyya bint Harith and SAFIYYA bint Huyayy Part 3
written by Aisha , June 30, 2012
Enjoying Special Booty (Gani-maater-maal): Muhammad Takes Safiya As Booty To Be His Sex Slave

Safiya bint Huyai/Huyayy was a captive Mohammed married after slaughtering her father, brother, husband and the men at Khaibar, according to Bukhari vol.2 book 14 ch.5 no.68 p.35; vol.4 book 52 ch.74 no.143 p.92; vol.4 book 52 ch.168 no.280 p.175 and Tabari vol.39 p.185.

Muhammad Attacks And Rapes Seventeen Year Old Safiya: Muhammad Was Sixty

After securing paragon beautiful Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy Prophet Muhammad has had sex with this young Safiyya in the tent, on their way back to Medina on the same night.

Above writings from above Hadith clearly and undoubtedly have confirmed at least three things: (1) Prophet killed all those surrendered unarmed Jews in cold blood, (2) Prophet was attracted by Safiyya’s alluring beauty and he had sex with her (I really don’t care after marriage or before marriage) in a period when that poor Safiyya was in terrible grief after the murder of her father, brother, husband and relatives and before the blood of her relatives was even dry. By what yardstick can we measure the mercifulness and compassionateness of Muhammad? (3) These evil acts of Muhammad: rape, torture, terrorism, murder, looting, enslaving are Sunna (holy acts) to be emulated for all time by Muslim men.
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Abc … Your argument is weak, old and has been refuted many times not just with you with others as well
written by fineliving56 , June 30, 2012
No need to go over it, all over again … Just answer few Questions .. please

Are you saying Islam FORBIDS marring little girls from birth and consummation from 8 or 9 …… kindly … tell us what age Saudi Arabia allows girls to be married off .

Kindly show us WHERE IT SAYS THAT .. in Quran , hadeeth and Sirah ??!!

1 - … If Aisha was NOT 9 when married, why most Muslims fathers marry [ sell] their daughters from birth and consummate the marriages at 9 and have been doing it for 1400 years, fallowing the sunnah of Alrasool Muhammad when he married Aisha ??

2 - … Was Sharia WRONG when it allows to do exactly that when it says '' there is no set marriage age for marrying girls but the consummation only allowed at 8 or 9

Was Sharia Law, wrong or was it correct in according with Muhammad's way of Life ?

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Age of Aisha?
written by 1proudkaffur4life , June 30, 2012
Lets take into consideration how eagerly Muslims defend their "Islam" against any "human corruptions". So if their profeet and sole spokesperson for stoned-gawd allah MuahamMAD did not marry Aisha at the tender Age of sex and having sex at nine, why do they allow their men to marry such young girls, citing the profeet as example? Such NON-Islamic behavior could not survive without the approval of the "clerics" Imams and other "Scholars" making Islam a religion which needs humans to clarify many issues...

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How old???
written by abc , June 30, 2012

Obviously, both Hadiths can't be true, and that's the problem with relying too much on Hadiths, and too little on the Quran and common sense.

Quote End]

Well where in the kooran Aisha's age mentioned? So far I have missed this passage if one would exist. Will ABC turn out to be a Sunni Muslim who also drifts towards "kooraan -only" Islam, because in the Hadiths also a lot of "foolishness" can be found?

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Age of Aisha? Part 2
written by 1proudkaffur4life , June 30, 2012
"the divorce" Sura 65/1-4

verse 4:

 Yusuf Ali

Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

Pickthal
And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

Shakir

And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

"not had their courses" again is plain: pre-menstrual girls. Of course it will take some "learned" Scholar to disprove this "clear" statement and claim that Aisha was much older...
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abc
written by Dwito , June 30, 2012
O.K. abc, I accept you. You are right. Khan & Co are wrong. Aisha was a very sexy young girl when married. But the problem is this truth is not known by others, other than you(and now me). So this un-Islamic practice is going on and millions of innocent lives are getting lost before blossoming.You can do the change. Write an article in your identity and send it to all leading Islamic sites and papers, demanding child marriage shall be declared un-Islamic. let's see how long you could stand. Come on, baby. This is your chance to prove yourself, and became another Ayatollah rasooallalha!!
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Islamic Scholar Confesses, Prophet Muhammad Had Sex With His 9 Year Old Wife Aisha
written by Aisha , June 30, 2012
Islamic Scholar Confesses, Prophet Muhammad Had Sex With His 9 Year Old Wife Aisha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTRtIxN1kjY
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spaming
written by dead or alive , June 30, 2012
5 in a row by one poster.
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i had not to read this
written by peace lover , June 30, 2012
where the hell religion in this? and light years away from real spirituality. Muslims need to be honest with reality and science. And start to see
the things in real perspective. Intelligent muslims need to do lot for society to evolve from 7th century to 21st century and coming time.
best of luck.
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Another one....
written by Infidel and More Proud , July 01, 2012
Volumn 007, Book 062, Hadith Number 064.(Sahih Bukhari)
Narated By ‘Aisha: That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated(complete) his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years.
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At the slaughter of Khaibar
written by Yibel , July 01, 2012
all the males over 12 years of age were beheaded. The younger boys and the women and girl children were either handed out to Muhammad's men or taken to the slave markets and sold. Women and children were sold into slavery so that Muhammad could buy horses and armour and swords for further conquests. Muhammad got 20 percent of the proceeds and control of Khaibar for his gawd.

Muslims, to this day, taunt Jews with the massacre of Khaibar. Arafat spoke about it at a Muslim meeting in South Africa, saying that was how the Filastins (there is no p sound in Arabic) planned to treat the Jews of Israel - and that is what the Muslim jihadis on the recent Flottilla to Gaza sang about.
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Human Being
written by Reggin Mudd , July 01, 2012
Islam gets sicker as the truth comes out. Islam is a mental disease of pornographic proportions, vile scum.
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ABC u need help
written by John Nada , July 01, 2012
ABC you know in your heart that your "prophet" was a child molester and a monster of a human. I know you and your cousin/wife only want what is best for your kids so make such the old dude who marry's/rapes your daughters pay you big bucks.
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CRAP!
written by Amboyduke , July 01, 2012
Balam
written by abc , June 30, 2012
"All of it has been refuted by Islamic sources!".....
Amboyduke sayeth: "BULL shit!"
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written by abc , June 30, 2012

Im good man! Don't worry about me! You guys just bring it!

"Dwito"....
excellent point, well said...
"You can do the change. Write an article in your identity and send it to all leading Islamic sites and papers, demanding child marriage shall be declared un-Islamic. let's see how long you could stand. Come on, baby. This is your chance to prove yourself, and became another Ayatollah rasooallalha!!"
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now it seems to little old stupid me that the above quote from "Dwito" has been "brought" to ABC!!
Looking forward to seeing ABC's essay on the above...LOL
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To Saif Ul-Haq
written by Archpagan , July 01, 2012
You have mortgaged your conscience and intelligence. That's why you can not find that Allah of Koran is a veritable monster who encourages murder, rape and plunder. In order to find real message of Allah, you have to study books which are really holy in nature.
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child marriage in Iran
written by Yibel , July 01, 2012
More than 716 girls under the age of ten have been married off in Iran since 2009

According to Islam, Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (Qur'an 33:21) and is exemplary even in his marriage to a child.

Muslims take this seriously and imitate Muhammad in this. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: "Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed."

The Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl "a divine blessing," and advised the faithful: "Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house."
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ha yeah right
written by Jye , July 01, 2012
If Aisha, the child bride/slave of Satan was 14 when she was raped, why are millions of copies of the Hadiths, that are translated into English, explicitly state she was 6 when married and 9 when raped? Why are millions upon millions of poor, helpless girls forced to marry when only children of 9 or 10 with the blessings of thousands of Islamic scholars? Muslims who dispute this are liars (shock horror; lying Muslims) and they defend the indefensible. Sick f**ks!
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Abc
written by fineliving56 , July 01, 2012
How about it …

Are you, or are you not, going to answer the Questions I asked in this thread ?
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foolish premise and article author
written by malem , July 01, 2012
Funny the author doesn't mention Jerry Sandusky was christian, or the fact over several thousand young boys were molested by catholic christian priests for the better part of the last 100 years..another biased article by an extremely biased author
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Fineliving of course I will!
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Just a busy few evenings but will get to you!
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malem...W.T.F...!
written by Amboyduke , July 02, 2012
You are right about the Catholic thing, and I'm not sure if Sandusky is a Christian or a Jew...(?)
But here's where you go into the ditch:

Christians/Jews DO NOT SANCTION AND CONDONE OR ENCOURAGE OR SAY IT IS APPROVED AND RIGHT to do those things...

They ALL condemn such actions by those you mentioned.
They don't have a religious leader standing up and giving an unequivical okay to such practises. No one is offering "pointers' on how to pull those things off.
They are CONDEMNED.

Islam gives you INSTRUCTIONS and TELLS YOU HOW TO DO SUCH THINGS...

Are you listening, Saif Ul-Haq???
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Fineliving
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Sorry for the delay!
Firstly all the Hindu Indians can take a step back because 40% of the worlds child marriages happen there!
Secondly any Jews need to look up the word "ketannah"
right then down to business:
You are comparing a marriage from 1500 years to today and that is why you seem to come up short!
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Fineliving 2
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Firstly the age of consent has changed throught time and in different civilisations. What are cultural norms now may not have been the norms then!
Secondly you need to understand how psychological maturity has varied through time. That will give you some answers.
Now you are arguing about early marriage in modern times eg Saudis in 2012.
completely different from the situation and people 1500 years ago!
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Fine living 3
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Let's look at the facts:
Did the prophet initiate the marriage? No
What did Abu bakr say? When it was suggested?
What did Abu bakr do when he heard the proposal?
How does aisha(ra) describe her father?
As far as any acts otherwise are just a lie supported by a fatwa that the scholars deny. No Hadith no Quran backing it! It's just scandalous!
Did aisha consent???
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abc n malem
written by Rationalist , July 02, 2012
Well guys, in modern non-Muslim world pedophilia is a punishable offence. Catholic clergy are punished by law. This isn't the case in Muslim world
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Rationalist
written by abc , July 02, 2012
I suggest you look up ages of consent in countries instead of making sweeping statements!
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abc … you are shooting your self in the foot… your post only proofs Muhammad was just plane man who was fallowing the culture at that time …….. time
written by fineliving56 , July 02, 2012
Typical Muslim answer … I heard that millions of times and, no … it does NOT do the job at all .. in fact it is wrong and you know it ...but … you just obfuscate and give excuses .

I hate to burst your bubble … You are absolutely wrong …

The answers for my Qustions are these ;

1 - … No … Saudi Arbia *TODAY* does NOT FORBIDS child marriages is the opposite of that, in fact in fallowing sharia law that fallows the LIFE Of Muhammad and his fallowers ALLOWS Muslim men to marry off their little girls at BIRTH and ALLOWS them to CONSUMMATE the marriage at 8 or 9 .
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abc … you are shooting your self in the foot… your post only proofs Muhammad was just plane man who was fallowing the culture at that time …….. time
written by fineliving56 , July 02, 2012
Typical Muslim answer … I heard that millions of times and, no … it does NOT do the job at all .. in fact it is wrong and you know it ...but … you just obfuscate and give excuses .

I hate to burst your bubble … You are absolutely wrong …

The answers for my Qustions are these ;

1 - … No … Saudi Arbia *TODAY* does NOT FORBIDS child marriages is the opposite of that, in fact in fallowing sharia law that fallows the LIFE Of Muhammad and his fallowers ALLOWS Muslim men to marry off their little girls at BIRTH and ALLOWS them to CONSUMMATE the marriage at 8 or 9 .
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This is stupid
written by abc , July 02, 2012
"abc … you are shooting your self in the foot… your post only proofs Muhammad was just plane man who was fallowing the culture at that time …….. time"

Your words! So died that mean all the men of that time and place were wrong???
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Fineliving
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Let me correct your own answer to your own question:

1 - … No … Saudi Arbia *TODAY* does NOT FORBIDS child marriages is the opposite of that, in fact in fallowing sharia law that fallows the LIFE Of Muhammad and his fallowers ALLOWS Muslim men to marry off their little girls at BIRTH and ALLOWS them to CONSUMMATE the marriage at PUBERTY
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Yibel
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Here is what the Quran came to correct:

• First of all, there were already Talmud and Church laws permitting vast sexual aberrations. But while affirming the divine source of Judaism and Christianity, Islam rejected these obviously false interpretations or alterations. Please read the following examples:
1. Bible: no mention of a minimum age for marriage.
2. Talmud: “a girl who is 3 years and 1 day old may be betrothed through sexual intercourse”.      
3. Canon: 7 years is the minimum age for consummation (passed on to 19th century Europe & US Common Law). (see part 1: ref. 31 to 50)
4. Talmud: "A proselyte (non-Jewish girl) who is under the age of 3 years and 1 day is permitted to marry a priest" citing Numbers 31:17.
5. "Saint" Constantine: legalized sale of infants as slaves (313 AD).
6. Talmud: fathers permitted to sell daughters as slaves, citing Exodus 21:7.
7. Talmud: For pederasty and incest of boys under 9 and girls under 3, “no guilt is incurred” by the adult.    
8. Deuteronomy 22:13-18 requires parents to deflower their daughters before marriage to show “tokens of her virginity”.
9.Secondly, Islam actually opposed the extreme sexual permissiveness of that time, such as:
10. Prostitution and pederasty were cherished from the Greeks up until the 15th century Roman Byzantine society.      
11.Talmud: did not require consent of women under 12 for marriage.
12. Pagan Arabs: used to perform their public worship completely naked.
13. Child prostitution was legal at age 7 from Greco-Roman times (remained legal at age 10 even until 1885 in US and UK).        
14. Arab and Jewish people could marry an unlimited number of simultaneous wives.
Therefore, to satisfy abnormal sexual desires in 7th century Arabia, no new religion was needed: all one had to do was take his pick from the existing religions and norms. In contrast, Islam protected people from these shameful laws.
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Abc …. Muhammad was doing what is* IN *at that time …
written by fineliving56 , July 02, 2012
My Questions was triggered by you trying to proof [ and failing miserably ] that Aisha was 14 not 9 like Haddeth clearly talk about which you reject YET EXCEPT ALL OTHER HADETHS FOR OTHER REASONS WHEN YOU need it be true … and you have quieted hadeeth many times before *

If you did NOT know … as if ? … you can not have it both ways … you can not pick and choose which hadeeth you approve of ,and which ones you do not … who do you think you are? … Bukari's son !!!

That ...weakens your argument … so that is why you failed to proof or refute Aisha was not 9 years old when Muhammad shamelessly [ nothing like a prophet should act like ] pushed his self on a child as any regular man at that time, who thought it is normal to do such sick act .

2- You are lying by DENYING that Muslims *TODAY * let their 9 years olds be raped under the cover of Islamic marriage …I REAPEAT … TODAY … and not just in Saudi but in …. Yemen,Egypt,Syria,Libya …. etc…

3- … You did NOT deny that Sharia law allows marring girls from birth and consummate at 8 or 9 … which of course that an admission it is true …

Do not bring India or other cultures to the mix … it only fails your argument

becouse of this :

In Minds of Muslims Islam is a *religion* and Muhammad was a *prophet* … it can not be compared to *cultures* of the Past

Even if India still does marry their little daughters … that does excuse Sharia Law to still be implanted until now …

Looks at your contradiction …

In one post … you are trying to say Aiasha was 14 and denying that at that time Muhammad did not do it , and by doing that you are saying HE DOES NOT APPROVE OF SUCH ACT … in the same time, you are bringing proofs that at THAT time ALL, DID JUST THAT ..

I just like to say …. you sounded so inflated and sure of your self in your posts … I am sorry that I had to burst your bubble this badly ..

You have not answered my first question in anther thread …

Do you think sharia law should be the law of the land in England [ last time you gave me a history or what is happening now consering sharia … I did nor ask that I asked this …

if YOU think Sharia law SHOULD be the law of the land in England ? ...

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Abc …. side stepping ?
written by fineliving56 , July 02, 2012
Why are you talking about English mistakes ? …

I asked you if Saudi forbids marring girls from birth and consummation at 9 or 8 …!!
Your posts did not answer my question …

in my post I just confirmed that Saudi ALLOWS marring girls at birth and allows to marry at 8 or 9 in according with Sharia law …

Are we on the same page ?
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amboy
written by malem , July 02, 2012
Show me where in the koran it instructs peope to do so. You can't because your making it up
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Fineliving
written by abc , July 02, 2012
You are all over the place. Stop think for one second.
Firstly I gave you an opinion based on the same evidences that there is discrepancy between hadiths and there is an opinion in islamic world that aisha was older than we thought. This opinion is valid held by people. You cannot disprove that because it uses the same books and evidences you use.
However if you go by the conventional view which is also valid.
Now the conventional view states that marriage can happen young BUT consummation can only happen after puberty.
The Quran makes it perfectly clear that the body must be ready!
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Fineliving
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Do I think shariah should be the law of the land in England? No
If like Egypt where the population of Muslims is 95% and they want it then yes!
Now what Saudis do and what they are supposed to do are two different things! Besides Arabs are a minority in Islam! You cannot use that as a proof.
No side stepping the English post was for yibel read the title!
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Fineliving
written by abc , July 02, 2012
As for talking about other cultures, it is valid when you have the critics of Islam come from those cultures. I'm not using them to validate me but showing their hypocracy when they make these statements!
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Malem..!!
written by Amboyduke , July 02, 2012
amboy
written by malem , July 02, 2012

Show me where in the koran it instructs peope to do so. You can't because your making it up

I am no expert on the koran...not in my wildest imagination do I profess to be.
I cite multiple examples of this crazy nonsense on Middle Eastern websites that have these lunatic mullah's, imams, or whatever the hell they are, giving the okay for all kinds of absolutely crazy antics in the name of YOUR islam...these are contemporary islamic spiritual leaders and they are telling your "bros" that is is acceptable to partake in thiis insane behaviour...and they have influence over muslim's who belief them.

If you say there is no support in the koran for this bullshit, then why don't you oraganize your type and confront it head on?
Or better yet, why don't you face the undisputable fact that islam is rife with lunatics and crazies and get out of it?

There are also lots of things that "Christians" do and believe that are not found in their Bible, but we are talking about islam on this site.

It defies my comprehension how anyone can believe such absolute lunacy...!
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Editor m a khan
written by abc , July 02, 2012
Edited I forget!
"Taqiyyah surrounding Aisha's age
written by Editor, M A Khan , June 30, 2012"
That old chestnut again. Any opinion different from yours khan and like the Christians all you come up with is taqiyya! Im not sure you even know what that term means but that's another story.

"the good thing is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are at least honest as far as issues about their religion is concerned"
Like when we tell you banging dead wives and grannies is not allowed. What do you do then khan? Oh that's right you go and publish your bilge. Honesty is not really your strong point is it?

" To Rid Islam of Pedophilia, Muslims Must Discard Both the Quran and Hadith"
Another absurd statement. If you repeat the same old same old it does not make it true.
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And not just in Islamic states
written by Yibel , July 03, 2012
fineliving56 states:
You are lying by DENYING that Muslims *TODAY * let their 9 years olds be raped under the cover of Islamic marriage …I REAPEAT … TODAY … and not just in Saudi but in …. Yemen,Egypt,Syria,Libya …. etc…

And in England, as well...

The Iranian and Kurdish Women’s Rights Organisation (IKWRO) claim that at least 30 under-age girls (some as young as nine) in the borough were forced into marriage in 2010. In addition, information from the Ministry of Justice, following a Freedom of Information request, revealed that 32 Forced Marriage Protection Order applications were made for children under 16 in Britain in 2011. The IKWRO warns that hundreds of Islington girls could be suffering sexual, emotional and physical scars as a result of the child marriages every year and they are calling for teachers, social workers and police to be better trained to spot and manage the abuse.

I don't know where abc is getting his information about the Talmud (he needs to site the source location) but the Talmud is not a scriptural document and is not used today. It contains folklore, legal arguments, and recordings of some historical events, which may or may not be accurate.

There is no such thing as "US Common Law." State laws regulate marriage age in the US and, in most states, this age is 18 years or older. Prostitution, at any age, is illegal in all states except Nevada. Polygamy and Bigamy is illegal in all states.

Numbers 31:17 does not state: "A proselyte (non-Jewish girl) who is under the age of 3 years and 1 day is permitted to marry a priest". Priests were from the tribe of Levites and were only allowed to marry Levite women; but, as there is no temple, there is no priesthood anymore. However, genetic studies have shown that the Levites are still keeping to the tradition and only marrying other Levites.

The Roman Emperor Constantine was not a saint. He was baptized a Christian on his death bed by a priest. He legalized Christianity and included it in the approved state religions, but during his livetime he remained a Roman pagan. The sale of infants, children, etc was legal under Roman law; fathers could even sell their own adult children if they wanted to.

Deuteronomy 22:13-18 requires parents to deflower their daughters before marriage to show “tokens of her virginity”. Not so! The bride's parents were required to save a special wedding cloth from the wedding night that would prove that their daughter was a virgin. This was a requirement because unscrupulous men would bring up false charges against wives they wanted to divorce so they could marry someone else.

to be continued...
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Sharia marriage laws
written by Yibel , July 03, 2012
In 2002, the Indonesian Government gave Aceh province the right to introduce Islamic sharia. Sharia gives no restrictions on age at marriage, and defines 9 as the minimum age for consummation, in accordance with the Qur'an and the example set by Muhammad. Fifty two regions have since enacted sharia law
from the Qur'an.
Qatar, like Saudi Arabia, has no age limit for marriage, only the consent of the parents must be given before marriage.
In Yemen, the law allows girls of any age to wed, but it forbids sex with them
until the indefinite time they’re suitable for sexual intercourse. In 1999, the
minimum marriage age of fifteen for women, rarely enforced, was abolished and the onset of puberty, interpreted by conservatives to be at the age of nine, was set as a requirement for consummation of marriage.
In 2007, the Bahrain ministry fixed, for the first time in Bahrain's history, the
marriage age for both Sunnis and Shiites: 15 for women and 18 for men. However, Bahrain has no plans to close legal loophole allowing for child brides - parents to marry their daughters younger, with the consent of the courts.
In Iran, sex outside marriage, regardless of age, is illegal. However, ways around the regulations include temporary marriages - Nikah mut‘ah - a fixed-term or
short-term contractual marriage in Shia Islam which is automatically dissolved upon completion of its term. Khomeini not only married a ten year old girl and described it as 'A divine blessing' he also said it was OK to have sex with animals such as camels, cows and sheep. he did caution that after one reached a climax the animal must be killed and the meat should not sold in one's own village, but selling it in a neighbouring village was permissible. Another of the Ayatollah's ideas was that a female virgin prisoner should be raped by a prison guard on the night before her execution. This was to ensure that she would not gain entry to Paradise. After the female's execution a marriage certificate was sent to her parents together with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
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Yibel
written by abc , July 03, 2012
Here is what the Quran came to correct:

• First of all, there were already Talmud and Church laws permitting vast sexual aberrations. But while affirming the divine source of Judaism and Christianity, Islam rejected these obviously false interpretations or alterations. Please read the following examples:
1. Bible: no mention of a minimum age for marriage.
2. Talmud: “a girl who is 3 years and 1 day old may be betrothed through sexual intercourse”.      
3. Canon: 7 years is the minimum age for consummation (passed on to 19th century Europe & US Common Law). (see part 1: ref. 31 to 50)
4. Talmud: "A proselyte (non-Jewish girl) who is under the age of 3 years and 1 day is permitted to marry a priest" citing Numbers 31:17.
5. "Saint" Constantine: legalized sale of infants as slaves (313 AD).
6. Talmud: fathers permitted to sell daughters as slaves, citing Exodus 21:7.
7. Talmud: For pederasty and incest of boys under 9 and girls under 3, “no guilt is incurred” by the adult.    
8. Deuteronomy 22:13-18 requires parents to deflower their daughters before marriage to show “tokens of her virginity”.
9.Secondly, Islam actually opposed the extreme sexual permissiveness of that time, such as:
10. Prostitution and pederasty were cherished from the Greeks up until the 15th century Roman Byzantine society.      
11.Talmud: did not require consent of women under 12 for marriage.
12. Pagan Arabs: used to perform their public worship completely naked.
13. Child prostitution was legal at age 7 from Greco-Roman times (remained legal at age 10 even until 1885 in US and UK).        
14. Arab and Jewish people could marry an unlimited number of simultaneous wives.
Therefore, to satisfy abnormal sexual desires in 7th century Arabia, no new religion was needed: all one had to do was take his pick from the existing religions and norms. In contrast, Islam protected people from these shameful laws.
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Abc … you said it is an opinion … well, that what it is …JUST... YOUR OPINION
written by fineliving56 , July 03, 2012
Especially an opinion of a non Arab,third generation immigrant muslim young man …

---- Your opinion does not matter because it does not have no effect, especially when the real Muslim experts that graduated from Islam most famous Islamic University in the world Al Azhar …they all gathered, that AISHA was married at 6 and her marriage was consummated at 9 by Muhammad when he was 54 ….

So, who do you think you are to contradict them … the experts

Do not get me wrong … I do not blame you … I understand why you want to change the plain panful truth about Muhammad sweet tooth for little Aisha … and you want to call it a misunderstanding about dates …

The problem it is ..it's too late .. the cat is out of the bag …. and Muhammad is exposed to the world .

------ I gathered from your post … that you believe that Sharia law is good enough Laws to be established in England ***if muslims made 95% of population *** …

In another word, Are you saying if one day England was mostly populated with muslims , you see no problem with sharia law being implemented to all ?
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Abc
written by fineliving56 , July 03, 2012
about hadeeth …

Since YOU believe …. if one part of Hadeeth is FABRICATED, that does not mean. it ALL fabricated … ?

Then Kindly …. list all the hadeeths that, YOU Abc … think are the* truthful* haddeths and give another list of then ones you think they are fabricated and all lies [ like the ones that you think they are all lies ] which clearly reveal, in Aisha's words, that she was 9 when her marriage was consummated .

I know it is very hard work and it takes hours and hours to go through all thousands of hadetths, but if you see any other way to differentiate all the bad ones from the good ones … I am all for it !!!

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additional reply to abc's TWICE-POSTED list:
written by Yibel , July 04, 2012
13. Child prostitution was legal at age 7 from Greco-Roman times (remained legal at age 10 even until 1885 in US and UK).

Prostitution has never been legal in the US and child prostitution - and statuatory rape - is a crime in all 50 states. And, while the legality of adult prostitution varies between different parts of the world, the prostitution of minors is illegal in most countries. Furthermore, many countries, including the United States, Australia and European countries, enforce worldwide jurisdiction on their nationals traveling abroad, so, engaging in activities that are illegal in the US in a foreign country is against US law.

If shari'ah actually meant to do away with prostitution is is not doing a very good job of it:

In Indonesia, UNICEF estimates that 30% of the female prostitutes are below 18.
In Sri Lanka, there are nearly 40,000 child prostitutes, according to UNICEF and ILO.
In Bangladesh, the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) estimated in 2004 that there were 10,000 underage girls used in commercial sexual exploitation in the country, but other estimates placed the figure as high as 29,000.
In Iran, prostitution is called "temporary marriage" - Nikah mut‘ah - a fixed-term or short-term contractual "marriage" in Shia Islam which is automatically dissolved upon completion of its term.
In Afghanistan, Bacha Bazi is a form of child prostitution employed by Afghan warlords where small boys are regularly bought and sold into sexual slavery.

And then there is sex slavery. Perfectly legal according to the Qur'an and aHadith and sunnah of Muhammad: Do what you will with "What your right hand possesses."
more coming...
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written by Truthseeker , July 05, 2012
I would like to point out too that Aisha was only 9 according to the Muslim lunar calendar....which everyone knows doesnt work. In real terms she was actually something like 8 years and 9 months. Only 8!!!

What kind of sick puppy finds an 8/9 year old girl sexually attractive??

Muslims like to dismiss this as "well, times were different back then".

Well first of all that is nonsense. It was just as wrong in ancient times as it was today. The fact that it happened doesnt make it acceptable even in ancient societies.

You see absolutely nothing about this in the bible. And before anyone beings up the Talmud which states a girl can be sexually penetrated at age 3, let me point out to you the Talmud isnt the bible, it contradicts the bible in many points and the words of one filthy imagination do not make for tradition
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ABC
written by Truthseeker , July 05, 2012
You pointed out in your last post that Jewish men could marry unlimited wives...such men are going against the bible which is clear that men could only marry ONE wife

The bible says that a man shall leave his father and mother (NOT mothers) and be united with his WIFE (not WIVES) and the TWO shall become one flesh.

The fact that polygamy existed in the bible only shows there was sin in this world even amongst the prophets whi were sinners like all the rest of us not perfect beings kept free from sin as the Koran likes to claim
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ABC
written by Truthseeker , July 05, 2012
You claim there is no minimum age in the bible for child sex/marriage.....you are wrong.

Here is what God really thinks about child sex.....

joel
3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

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more replies to abcs list
written by Yibel , July 07, 2012
abc's #12. Pagan Arabs: used to perform their public worship completely naked.

TODAY Muslims STILL circle the "sacred" stone of the Ka'aba, and kiss or rub the
"sacred" stone (perform hajj) - just as the pagan Arabs did - EXCEPT NOW they wear a little loin cloth and go around clockwise instead of counterclockwise. Yeh, that's a BIG change alright! And, sure, Muhammad got rid of the two statues, but Muslims STILL run up and down the two sacred hills - Safa and Marwa - Al-Aleem's two beacons. (Breasts of the mother earth goddess, Gaia, perhaps?)
And they STILL throw stones at the invisible jinn (demons) in the valley of the giants, but now they call them the pillars Shaytan. Big change there, oh yeh! AND Muslims STILL sacrifice animals - and HUMANS, TOO - to their stone-gawd.

Naked, so what! Lots of people, worldwide, wear very little or even NO clothing. In hot climates the lack of clothing can be a blessing. Sunshine is good for the body. It produces vitamin D, necessary for bones. Muslim women suffer from bone loss due to lack of sunshine.

14. And speaking of "satisfy abnormal sexual desires" - how does allowing marriage to up to 4 wives at a time and unlimited sex slaves improve anything?

He even made sex with children a "divine blessing." I truly fail to see any change for the better. And, as if that wasn't enough crap, he ordered his followers to spread this disease, this abomination of desolation, throughout the world. Muhammad, however, got his wish - the thing he sold his soul to the devil for - control of the Ka'aba. Then he died a miserable death - probably killed by a lowly bacteria called Streptococcus baccilli - in other words, Strep Throat - because Allah failed to provide Muhammad with the cure - a lowly fungus called Penicillin.
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To abc
written by Archpagan , July 07, 2012
"Pagan Arabs: used to perform their public worship completely naked."

Abusing own ancestors is the favourite pastime for Muslims.

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Archpagan
written by abc , July 08, 2012
I have no ancestry linking me to Arabia.
My dads side were from India, no doubt Hindu at some point.
My mums side roots go back to Ireland and were catholic!

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