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Did Muslims Discover America Before Columbus?

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Muslims have been raising the claim that it Muslims who discovered America before Columbus. It's no better than their more recent claim that Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, heard the Muslim call to prayer (azan) while there, and converted to Islam, and then moved to Lebanon. (Well, he did live in Lebanon, Ohio.)


Columbus Day follows the Muslim Day celebration in New York City by just a few weeks, so it is not surprising that Muslim leaders have tried to steal the credit for that historic achievement. After all, taking something that does not belong to them is part of their ideology (Surah 48:20) and the cherished traditions of their prophet. (Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 7, Number 331)

The discovery of America by Columbus was one of the most remarkable human achievements of the 15th Century, just as landing on the moon was in our own lifetime.  But those two events would have been only historical footnotes had Christopher Columbus and Neil Armstrong merely made one-way journeys.  In fact, the expeditions would have been remembered as foolish, ill-conceived, and inhumane stunts. With that in mind, let’s consider the claim that Muslims discovered America before Columbus.

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On September 25, 2011, American Muslims held their 26th Annual Muslim Day Parade in New York City with banners, leaflets, and of course, the now-predictable mass prayer in the middle of Madison Avenue. One of the leaflets that got my attention, mostly for its lack of syntax, was headlined, “Islam is Not Anti-Systemic” by a local African-American Imam, Aiyub Abdul-Baqi.

Based on the title, one might think that the leaflet was a denial of the anti-Semitism that is infused throughout the Quran (e.g., Surahs 5:60, 5:82, 9:28-30, and 62:5). Actually, there was no mention of Jews anywhere in the document.  Instead, the hand-out argued that Islam “is as American as apple pie.” Furthermore, “Muslims were here before the Christian European conquest of America [1492] and we are here today.” Imam Abdul-Baqi arrogantly upped the ante by adding, “For those seeking to obtain knowledge, they can read ‘They Came Before Columbus’ by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima and ‘Deeper Roots’ by Dr. Abdullah Hakim Quick, which documents (sic) Muslims [sic] history in America and Caribbean [sic] up to the present.”

So I tracked down those books along with several other supposedly scholarly works that contend that Muslims reached American before Columbus. The arguments were based on four different indicators which are discussed greater detail below: 1) 8th to 7th Century B.C. South American Olemic statues appear to depict Negroid figures; 2) Some South American plants, artifacts, and root words seem to have African origins or similar names; 3) there are reports of large numbers of Africans leaving for America in the 14th Century A.D., and 4) Muslims/Arabs had the necessary navigational expertise and maps of America prior to 1492. Note that none of this “evidence” demonstrates that Muslims ever documented claims to territory or actually settled in America. Still, there was enough truth to the indicators to make a great Islamic myth.

The discovery of America was the result of deliberate search for a sea route to the Far East.  Europe fell into its “Dark Age” when Muslims gained control of the Mediterranean beginning around the end of the 7th Century. (See Henri Pirenne, “Mohammed and Charlemagne,” pg. 155.) Ultimately, the Ottoman Empire, which had reached its zenith with the siege and capture of Constantinople in 1453, had cut off all land routes to the Far East and monopolized the trade in spices, silk, and other commodities in great demand in Europe. Navigators like Columbus believed that a sea route lay Westward, straight across the Atlantic. King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain were persuaded to finance the exploratory trip which promised to reap great financial rewards. Columbus would get 10 percent of the profits plus a hereditary governorship of the new territories “in the region of the Indies.”

While Columbus is generally given credit for discovering the Americas, Muslims today are advancing arguments that contend that they were the first to discover this New World. What are the merits of those arguments?

“They Came Before Columbus – The African Presence in Ancient America,” by Ivan Van Stertima (1976)

Professor Van Sertima was born in Guyana in 1935 and was a professor of Afro-American studies at Rutgers University. His book centers on the archeological evidence of early African contact with America. The cover of Van Sertima’s book shows a 10 foot high Olmec Colossal Head found at San Lorenzo Tenochtitlan near Veracruz, Mexico, which bears a striking resemblance to African facial features. These statues are impressive for their size and their apparent likeness to African Negroid races. They have been dated to 800 to 700 B.C., which might make them African in origin, but certainly not Muslim. There are also many plants and artifacts that indicate some contact between the two continents, but there is no record either in Africa or in America confirming that these contacts were other than accidental and very occasional. Van Sertima relies heavily on a 1922 study by American philologist Leo Wiener, “Africa and the Discovery of America.” This book documents the common plants, monetary artifacts, and even similar words to demonstrate extended cultural contact between Africa and America, but the actual relationship between the people of those two continents is pure speculation.  One could draw similar conclusions from flotsam and jetsam washed up on a distant shore. (See more on Leo Wiener below.)

When it comes to recording actual American contact with African people, Van Sertima is a bit more specific:

Peter Martyr, the first historian of America, reports about Darien in the Isthmus of Panama, “The Spaniards found Negroes in this province. It is thought that Negro pirates from [Africa] established themselves after the wreck of their ships in these mountains. The natives of Quarequa carry on incessant war with these Negroes.  Massacre or slavery is the alternate fortune of these peoples.” Darien and Columbia were easily accessible to African ship-wrecked mariners. These places lie within the terminal area of currents that move with great power and swiftness from Africa to America… [I]t is important to point out here how many small, isolated black communities have been found on the American seaboard at the terminal points of these currents. It is evident that the more or less pure black elements have been brought from Africa through some accident at sea, they have there mixed with the local races, and have formed those small isolated groups which are distinguished by their color from the surrounding tribes. (p. 24)

One of the center-pieces to his book is the story of an African Mandingo king who launched a colonial expedition to America with 200 master boats and 200 supply boats in 1310. The king was, according to accounts, Abubakari the Second, a nominal Muslim who Van Sertima claims “was no more Muslim than were the feathered and masked magicians of his court.” Only one ship from that expedition ever retuned to Africa, having abandoned the voyage early on out of fear. The following year, the king relinquished his throne and joined a second expedition to America. This fleet was comprised of 2,000 vessels filled with supplies and settlers. Such expeditions would have dwarfed all of the early European settlements of America in the 16th and 17th Centuries, including the Mayflower Pilgrims, the Jamestown colony, and the St. Augustine settlements combined. The accounts of the two large expeditions of boats from the Senegambia coast of Africa (near Dakar) are sketchy at best. If the expeditions involved more than 2,400 boats and large numbers of colonists, there certainly would have been much written about the venture. Archeologists have found a few religious artifacts and art depicting African figures in Mexico relating to that time-frame, but no other documentary proof. Van Sertima chalks up the lack of historical evidence as racial prejudice:

It is hard for many to imagine the Negro-African figure being venerated as a god among the American Indians. He has always been represented as the lowliest of the low, at least since the era of conquest and slavery. His humiliation as a world figure begins, in fact, with the coming of Columbus. (Columbus himself was the first to initiate slavery in the Americas, even against the wishes of the Spanish sovereigns.) It was the very decade of his “discoveries” that the black and white Moors were laid low. The image of the Negro-African as a backward, slow and uninventive being is still with us. Not only his manhood and his freedom but even the memory of his cultural and technological achievement before the day of his humiliation seems to have been erased from the consciousness of history…  Leo Wiener, the Harvard philologist, assumes that the great Mali empire of medieval West Africa owed all of its refinements, even its animist ritual and magic, to the Arab-Islamic civilization. The Mandingo came to America before Columbus, he declares, but carrying another man’s cultural baggage. He sees the Negro-African as simply a conductor of Islamic cultural electricity… For them, before and after Columbus, the Negro is still a beggar in the wilderness of history, a porter, a paddler, a menial, a mercenary – the eternal and immutable slave. (p. 29-30)

What Van Sertima seems to forget in his victimhood rant, however, is that there are two distinct periods of archeological evidence of contact by Africans in the Americas – the pre-Classic period (800 to 700 B.C.) and the two centuries prior to Columbus. The former displayed what he called, “The most remarkable representation of Negroes in America. . . The people who were host to these Negro-African figures are known as the Olmecs. [The Negroid heads] stood twelve to twenty times larger than the faces of living men. They were like gods among the Olmecs… The construction of these Negroid figures is a fact of staggering proportions. Imagine forty tons of basalt block mined from stone quarries eighty miles away and transported to the holy center of La Venta – not in pieces but in one massive chunk…”

It was only in the later, pre-Columbian period that Africans in America acquired a more sinister reputation according to Van Sertima’s own narration: “Negro pirates from Africa” “tall black men of military bearing who were waging war with the natives,” “constantly waging war,” “The blacks also killed and made war captives of Indians they caught in these raids along the Isthmus.” I will leave it for the reader to decide if this stark difference between the reception given to the Negroes of the 8th and 7th Centuries B.C. and the Negroes of the 14th and 15th Centuries A.D. had anything to do with their conversion to Islam.

Van Sertima is a product of the multi-cultural heyday before the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran which exposed the evil nature of the Islamists, particularly their hostility toward “the Great Satan” of America.  He writes,

But the whole notion of any race (European, African or American) discovering a full-blown civilization is absurd. Such notions should now be abandoned once and for all. They presume some innate superiority in the “discoverer” and something inferior and barbaric in the people “discovered.” [This book] provides further evidence that all great civilizations and races are heavily indebted to one another and that no race has a monopoly on enterprise and inventive genius. (p. 256)

One of the most convincing arguments against Van Sertima’s thesis of extended contact between Africans and Native Americans involves genetic and immunological studies over the past two decades. There is no genealogical evidence of pre-Columbian widespread interbreeding of African or Arab races with the indigenous populations of America. If isolated pockets of ship-wrecked African mariners existed, they were eventually wiped out through warfare or disease. Also, the extensive depopulation of the Native American population following Columbus’ discovery was not due to colonial bloodshed, but rather due to exposure to European diseases, against which the Native Americans had not developed any immunity. Those diseases included small-pox, measles, scarlet fever, typhoid, typhus, influenza, whooping cough, tuberculosis, cholera, diphtheria, chicken pox, and venereal diseases. Each of these diseases brought destruction through sweeping epidemics, involving illness and extensive death. Many Native American tribes experienced extensive depopulation, averaging 25–50 percent of tribal life lost due to disease. These huge mortality rates of the Native Americans after contact with the European settlers indicates quite conclusively that they had been immunologically isolated from other parts of the world prior to Columbus’ discovery. In other words, there was no significant American contact with other continents which had already developed immunity to those diseases.

“Deeper Roots – Muslims in the Americas and the Caribbean From Before Columbus to the Present,” by Dr. Abdullah Hakim Quick (1996)

Dr. Quick claims to be of African and Native American descent. He was born in the U.S. in 1949 and converted to Islam in 1970. He received a B.A. in Islamic Studies (Da’wah and Usul al-Din – Proselytizing and Theology) from the Islamic University of Medina and a PhD in History of Islam in Africa from the University of Toronto, Canada. He was involved in Caribbean Islamic development as the first Amir of the Islamic Council of Jamaica and the Imam of Masjid Bilal in Kingston, Jamaica. (This mosque is apparently defunct today.) Dr. Quick lives in Toronto and is the head of the History Department at the Al Maghrib Institute, a non-profit organization that offers weekend accelerated degree classes in Islam.

Dr. Quick pins his thesis on 1) linguistic similarities between Jamaican Creole and West African Mandinka dialects and 2) Arabic accounts of navigation in the “sea of darkness and fog.”  Most linguists, however, agree that Jamaican Creole is an English-based language developed in the 17th Century when African slaves brought with them their native vocabulary. The Arab/Muslim exploration accounts cited by Dr. Quick are underwhelming in their lack of detail.

  • Khashkhas ibn Saeed ibn Aswad is said to have crossed the Atlantic with a group of young sailors and returned in 889 A.D. with “fabulous booty. Every Spaniard (Andalusian) knows this story.” However, if such booty were found, it would be likely that those sailors would attempt additional voyages. No further trips were reported.
  • Ibn Farrukh sailed from the Canary Islands in February, 999, and then sailed westward to the islands of Caprira and Pluitana, arriving back in Spain in May of that year. Those islands were never identified or confirmed by any other navigators.
  • Another group sailed from Lisbon in the 12th Century, but the short sailing period of only 25 days would preclude arrival in the Western Hemisphere. The average sailing time for Columbus’ four voyages was 52 days.

Dr. Quick also asserts that a mixed ethnic strain existed in the Americas prior to Columbus. These Black Caribs (Garifuna), according to Dr. Quick, were Muslims.  However, he acknowledges that these people were most likely descendants of Africans who were conveyed to America by the currents and winds. When the Spanish settled in Central America, the Garifuna were found to be too independent to work on the plantations. Eventually, they revolted and withdrew to the mountains. Today’s Garfuna are predominately Catholic, matriarchal, and have a culture deeply involved with music and magic. If they were ever Muslim, that religion would have left an indelible imprint of male-dominated families and an aversion to music and magic. Dr. Quick attributes the lack of information on the Garifuna’s Islamic origins to a “massive cover-up.”

After surveying the growing number of archeological, linguistic, and historical proofs for the presence of Muslims in the Americas before Columbus, the researcher becomes totally aware of a massive cover-up. Not only was the presence of Muslims in the Americas known to the early Spanish and Portuguese explorers, but Muslim geographical and navigational information was actually the foundation of European expansion.  … The colonization of the Americas by the Spanish was an extension of the Reconquista (reconquest) of the Iberian Peninsula. Muslims had ruled much of Spain for 781 years, dominating Europe culturally, educationally, and economically. The early explorers were, in many cases, Spanish soldiers who had fought in Spain or Africa and sailed the seas to destroy the power of Islam. They recognized the influence of Islam wherever they journeyed and did everything in their power to convert the people to Catholicism.  (p. 35)

Such was the plight of the early Muslims who braved the currents, visited new lands, learned new languages and cultures, traded with the peoples of the Americas, and became part of the already thriving civilizations. Yet despite all of these amazing achievements, very little information about their presence is being allowed out to the general public. World History will one day open its arms to all of its participants.  (p. 37)

Dr. Quick acknowledged that in1550, the King of Spain ordered the American colonies to use whatever resources they had to prevent Moors (i.e., Muslims) from settling there and to try “to convert them or persuade them by good and legitimate means to accept our holy Catholic faith.” This does not reflect a “cover-up” as much as it was a conscious reaction to 781 years of Islamic domination in Spain where churches were converted to mosques and where Jews and Christians were dhimmis, second class citizens burdened with harsh taxes and civil restrictions. The source for these royal orders was a paper by Peruvian Rafael Bazan in the 1966 issue of The Muslim World.  The portions of the royal decrees omitted by Dr. Quick clearly contradict his allegations of a “cover-up:”

You are informed that if such Moors are by their nationality and origin Moors, and if they should teach Muslim doctrines, or wage war against you or the Indians, who are subject to us or in our royal service, you are authorized to make them slaves.  But the Muslims who may be Indians or who may have adopted the Muslim religion you shall not make slaves by any means whatever. On the contrary, you shall try to convert them or persuade them by good and legitimate means to accept our holy Catholic faith. (Notes Bazan, “All this serves as a starting point to demonstrate how it was that the fierce ‘Islamophobia’ which developed in Spain during the centuries of the Reconquest contained not the least trace of racism. It was, rather, a doctrinal and religious struggle. . . Proof of this is that for centuries past, the Spaniard did not hesitate to mix his blood with that of the American aborigines. There was no such racism, therefore in the Spain of the sixteenth century…) Be it known …we have decreed that under no condition should [Muslims] go [to America], on account of the many annoyances which seem, from practical experience, to follow those who have gone.  And in order to prevent the harm which those who have gone there or those who may go there in the future may cause, since in a new land like that where the Faith is newly established it is advisable that every risk be removed, in order that neither the sect of Muhammad nor any other may be propagated and proclaimed there in offence to God our Lord and to the detriment of our holy Catholic faith… (p. 177-182)

“Africa and the Discovery of America,” by Leo Wiener (1922)

Another book perpetuating the myth of an African pre-Columbian discovery of America is a book by American professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Leo Wiener, titled “Africa and the Discovery of America.” In the introduction to the book, readers are told that Africans were partners with Native Americans “in the creation of a durable civilization long before the emergence of Europeans in this part of the world” and that the region “could have done without the ‘discovery’ by Europeans and might have been better off.”

What follows is a disappointing litany of plants and artifacts common to both Africa and the Americas – cotton, tobacco, and bead money. There is not one chapter about explorers, settlers, or even any written record of sustained human contact between Africa and America. For the commonality of plants and artifacts, those could have occurred by way of drifted objects or occasional shipwrecked seafarers.

The crux of Dr. Wiener’s argument is that if the words associated with those plants and artifacts are similar in two different continents, then there is evidence of human contact.  Tobacco seems to have similar names in Africa and pre-Columbian America. The study of philology can provide important clues to the transmission routes of plants and other artifacts. However, it must be used with caution, as Dr. Wiener acknowledges. The fact that Spain was under the control of Arabic speaking Muslims for 781 years prior to the exploration of America would go a long way toward explaining the Arabic influence on place and plant names in the New World. The English language contains many Arabic words, like algebra and alcohol, but that doesn’t make English-speaking people Muslim.

More devastating to Dr. Wiener’s theories is the consensus of contemporary Mesoamerican scholars that there is neither linguistic nor genetic evidence linking Africa to pre-Columbian America:

Some researchers claim that the Mesoamerican writing systems are related to African scripts. These assertions have found no support among Mesoamerican researchers. While mainstream scholars have made significant progress translating the Maya script, researchers have yet to translate Olmec glyphs. [Furthermore,] Genetic and immunological studies over the past two decades have failed to yield evidence of pre-Columbian African contributions to the indigenous populations of the Americas. Additionally, the huge mortality associated with the spread of Old World diseases introduced by Europeans suggests long-term immunological isolation which further shows the lack of any contact with African people in the Americas before Columbus.

(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_alternative_origin_speculations)

The cover of the 1992 edition of Dr. Wiener’s book also reveals another problem. It is a picture of an East African trading ship made of palm or papyrus fiber lashed together and propelled by a square sail. The caption explains that such ships were sailed on the Indian Ocean between Africa and China. Square sails do not allow ships to sail toward the wind as lateen sails do. Neither Muslims nor Africans adopted lateen sails until the 16th Century – after Columbus demonstrated their efficacy in making round trip voyages across the Atlantic. As any ocean navigator or space explorer well knows, the achievement of landing at a distant destination is nothing if one cannot also return to the point of departure and report about the accomplishment.

“Before Columbus – Links Between the Old World and Ancient America,” by Cyrus H. Gordon (1971)

Cyrus H. Gordon (1908 – 2001) was an eminent scholar of Near Eastern cultures and ancient languages. In addition to conducting extensive field archeological research in the Middle East, he taught at Dropsie College, Brandeis University, and New York University. One of his more controversial theories was that Jews, Phoenicians and others crossed the Atlantic in antiquity and settled in various parts of North and South America. He posits that all cultures share elements due to accidental and deliberate contact – or borrowing. However, he admits that parallel occurrences of a simple cultural element may be due to independent invention, e.g., houses.

Gordon’s evidence regarding cultural contact in the Americas prior to Columbus includes 1) ethnic figurines,  2) Greek accounts of travels to the region, 3) similarity of archeological artifacts, 4) inscriptions on Roman coins found in several Southeastern states in the U.S., and 5) the maps of the Turkish navigator Piri Reis. Except for the Piri Reis maps (discussed below), all of the archeological evidence of contact occurs prior to the establishment of Islam in the 7th Century. There is only one reference to “Muslim” in Gordon’s entire book, and that is merely a passing comment that Jews and Muslims avoid pork.

Muslim Maps and Navigation Techniques

There are two scholarly works which lay the groundwork for the thesis Muslim maps indicate navigation to the Americas prior to Columbus – “Mu-Lan-P’i: A Case for Pre-Columbian Transatlantic Travel by Arab Ships” by Hui-Lin Li (1961) and “The Pre-Columbian Discovery of the American Continent by Muslim Seafarers” by Fuat Sezgin (2005).

Regarding Mu-Lan-P’i, a 13th Century Chinese Sung Dynasty document contains the following description: “The country of Mu-lan-p’i is to the west of the Ta-shih country (presumably Moorish Spain). There is a great sea, and to the west of this sea there are countless countries, but Mu-lan-p’i is the one country which is visited by the big ships of the Ta-shih.” The authors claimed that the reports of this country came mostly from Arab seafaring merchants. But a closer look at the so-called Arab reports leaves much to be desired from a historical perspective. Here is one excerpt: “Among the native products are foreign sheep, which are several feet high and have tails as big as a fan. In the spring-time they slit open their bellies and take out some tens of catties [one catty equals 1 ½ pounds] of fat, after which they sew them up again, and the sheep live on; if the fat were not removed, (the animal) would swell up and die.” The author of the article about these reports, Hui-Lin Li, explains that these were probably alpacas or llamas, and that the description of their annual shearing for wool was garbled into extracting fat. The problem with such an explanation is that those particular animals were native to the alpine regions of the Andes Mountains (on the west side of South America) above 11,500 feet in elevation. It is unlikely that the Arab merchants sailing west from Spain (or even the Middle East) would encounter alpacas above 11,500 feet on the far side of South America.

The other study by Fuat Sezgin introduces several Muslim or Arabic navigators who might have visited and mapped North or South American during their travels, namely, Nicolò da Conti and Piri Reis. Critical to mapping that region was an accurate determination of longitude. Arabs had mastered the technique of determining longitude by measuring the elapsed time between lunar eclipses at various locations. However, to accomplish this one needed to observe a very rare lunar eclipse and one had to accurately mark the time. Columbus reported only one lunar eclipse in his four voyages to the New World, and he marked time with nothing more accurate than an hour-glass. Many of his “honest” geographical observations were as much as 6,000 miles off. (These faked observations, it is now believed, were recorded to lend credence to his arrival in the Far East in order to justify his demand to be appointed governor of the “Indies.”) Although some pre-Columbian maps show outlines of South America, there are no logs or other documentary evidence of Muslims/Arabs ever landing or establishing trading posts in the Western Hemisphere. Concludes Sezgin, “…the basic proposition that the inhabitants of the Old World reached the landmass beyond the Atlantic Ocean time and again since antiquity appears to be generally corroborated. In all likelihood these encounters between inhabitants of Old and New World came about – up to a certain point in history – by chance rather than on purpose… Apparently the Arabic-Islamic navigators and cartographers were hardly aware of the significance which the progress they had achieved for world history.”

 

Navigation vs. Drifting

We all know that Columbus navigated to the Americas in three ships in 1492. His crew not only  plotted their course to America, but they also returned by the same route, bringing ships logs,  diaries,  and captured Indians as evidence of their successful voyage. In all, Columbus made four round trips to America and back. All of that was a deliberate accomplishment, worthy of historical recognition.

Recently, at a much-touted Friday Jumah prayer event prior to the Democratic National Convention, Jibril Hough, a spokesman for the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs, claimed that Muslim navigators guided Columbus on his famous voyages. The source of this astounding announcement seems to be an article in Muslim Wiki which lists the Muslim navigators – the three Pinzon brothers, Pedro Alonso Nino, and Rodrigo De Triana. (See: http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Christopher_Columbus ) Simple fact-checking, however, will confirm that the Pinzon brothers and Rodrigo De Triana were all Catholic. If African Pedro Alonso Nino was a Muslim, it would be nothing to brag about, as he died in 1505 in prison awaiting trial for allegedly cheating the King out his rightful share of the profits from his later explorations.

The Africans who arrived in America most likely drifted there by accident. It is well known that the Atlantic Ocean wind and water currents run from Africa to America – the same route as the hurricanes which hit the Western Hemisphere each year. If some African fishermen got caught in a storm and were lost at sea, they would eventually end up in the Americas (provided they could survive for 70 days or so on their provisions and fishing skills). African vessels at the time did not have keels, and their square sails made it impossible to sail into headwinds. We have no actual record of this happening because, unlike Columbus, those who arrived from Africa did not return to their home port and they did not leave diaries of their voyages or routes.

In 1969 and 1970, Norwegian adventurist Thor Heyerdahl of Kon Tiki fame built two boats from papyrus and attempted to cross the Atlantic Ocean from Morocco in Africa. The first boat, Ra (after the Egyptian Sun god), broke apart and had to be abandoned just a week off the coast of Barbados. The second craft, Ra II, made the Atlantic crossing from Safi to Barbados, a distance of 3270 nautical miles, in 57 days. While the experiment proved that boats could sail (and drift with the currents) from Africa to America, it also underscored the dicey 50-50 probability of ever arriving. Returning against the wind in such boats was out of the question.

In January, 2011, a group of adventurists built a raft called An Tiki (named after the famous Pacific raft Kon Tiki). The raft was launched from La Gomera in the Canary Islands and it managed to drift with a small square sail to St. Maarten in the West Indies.  The voyage took 66 days, and ended up over 1,000 miles from its intended destination (Eleuthera) because, after all, they were merely drifting with the current and prevailing winds.

Conclusions

Based on the books and documents cited by the pamphlet (and within the cited books), one can come to the following conclusions:

  • If Muslims can claim any part in the discovery of America it was due to their blockading the Mediterranean and land routes to the East that prompted Columbus and other explorers to seek alternate routes to avoid the Muslim robbers and pirates.
  • While Muslims, Africans, Chinese, and Vikings may have charted maps of America and even landed in America (the Western Hemisphere) prior to Columbus,  none of those cultures actually succeeded in making permanent settlements or writing documented reports on what they “discovered.”
  • Rather than being “as American as apple pie,” Muslims were the objects of the first laws promulgated in the Americas in the 16th Century prohibiting the immigration of Moors, Berbers, and people from Levant. These laws were based on ideology, not race, and reflected the Spanish aversion to Islam occasioned by 781 years of oppressive Islamic rule.
  • While thousands of boats and settlers from Africa reportedly left for America, there is no evidence of such large numbers ever arriving. The few who did arrive seem to have drifted there randomly and sporadically after being lost at sea, rather than deliberately seeking and navigating to America, as did Columbus.
  • The paucity of evidence supporting the African cultural impact on America is not so much the result of racial bias or cover-up, but rather lack of historical documentation on either side of the Atlantic. Genealogy, Immunology, Archeology and History do not have reputations for predetermined outcomes.

Finally, Aiyub Adbul-Baqi’s statement that Islam is “as American as apple pie” betrays his ignorance. Until the advent of vegetable shortening in 1911, the crusts of apple pies were made with pork lard, a forbidden, haram food for Muslims. To say that Islam is as “American as apple pie” meant that Islam was actually haram for most of America’s history.

Postscript: When the first man on the moon, Neil Armstrong, died on August 25, 2012, at age 82, we were reminded that soon after his historic space achievement, Muslim sources created the false story that while in space, he heard the Muslim call to prayer (azan), converted to Islam, and moved to Lebanon. (Well, he did live in Lebanon, Ohio.)  (See: http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/usa-laughable-muslim-fantasies-neil-armstrong-converted-to-islam-after-landing-on-the-moon/)

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written by vbv , October 07, 2012
Hahahahahahahahaha! Muslims can claim anything for themselves. First , they claimed all the jewish patriarchs as their own and dubbed them 'muslim'. Then they also claimed Jesus as a muslim. Then they robbed the knowledge from the lands they conquered and claimed it as their own. You hear of astronomers, mathematicians, physicians,etc to be muslims. They suddenly appeared between the 9th and the 11th centuries out of nowhere , and then what happens thereafter ? Poof ! all the discoveries stop happening suddenly : because they could not find materials to usurp , arabise and put the stamp of islam on them. While civilisations grew organically over centuries/ millennia to evolve many things in those ancient days, these muslims , who were known throughout history only for brutal conquests , slave-trading, plundering and massacring , become suddenly enlightened to make discoveries that were already established by ancient Indians, Chinese, Egyptians, Babylonians, Chaldeans,Sumerians, Greeks, Romans,Celts,etc. Islam is the worst fraud that has ever happened in the history of humanity. It is a hate-mongering fascist idealogy of arab supremacy. Mind you , the arabs did not even have a fully developed language and grammar till the 10th century ,let alone mathematics and science. While Greeks, Romans, Indians,etc had highly evolved language atleast a thousand years before islam made its appearance in the arid deserts of arabia. Today they are even claiming that Wright brothers did not invent gliders/ aeroplanes but some muslim in Andulisia did in the 12th century. What else can you expect from these morons? Just plain bullshits and gargantuan lies.
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Right on vbv
written by M A Khan, editor , October 07, 2012
From science to discovery of America or Australia, Muslims are the first to discover them. They discover and keep them under wrap, lest the kuffars steal them.

Red Indians of the Americas, as it seems, had migrated and settled there ages ago from the Indian subcontinent. If that's true, then it must be Indians, who are the true discoverer of America.
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So, who were the people who founded America?
written by dead or alive , October 07, 2012
Art;11 As the goverment of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has i itself no character of enmity against the laws,religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen;and,as the said States never entered into any war,or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation,it is declared by the parties,that no pretext arising from religious opinions,shall ever produce an interruption of the harmany existing between the two countries. The Treaty of Tripooli;1796
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written by Barry , October 07, 2012
Fact : Muslims discovered BullShit.
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to barry
written by annad , October 07, 2012
Lol. Not even. But they for suremade an exclusive use of it.
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The most refined art of Islam
written by Montegue , October 07, 2012
With the feat of all these illustrious discoveries, understandably the victorious Islam has gathered for itself the admiration of over a billion followers. The world owes Muhammad the great honor of one finger salute.
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Gen. Dostum
written by Jimat Khorasan , October 07, 2012
Since the whole world is part of Islamic land, I suppose claiming America from 15th Century is being generous! Since Islam gave rise to culture, art, science, chemistry, architecture etc, I suppose the rest of humanity does not need to thank da Vinci, Socrates, the Persian architects and US surgeons /doctors who from time to time operate and treat members of the Saudi Royal family!

Muslim scientist should have been able to detect and refine oil from the deserts and build flying passenger planes to ferry Haj pilgrims and also to re-take Israel from those nasty Irgun and Haganah gangs occupying lands that rightfully belong to Islam. We can do a swap....how about Islam returning all the lands it illegally captured by force (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Levant, Medina, North Africa, Central Asia) ....maybe then US can be given to its rightful discoverer!
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is islam lie or lie is islam?
written by parvez , October 07, 2012
please tell me is islam lie or lie is ISLAM?
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Wait a minute!
written by Tanstaafl jw , October 07, 2012
As every Irishman knows, America was discovered by St. Brendan paddling his wee coracle over from Ireland.
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Barry
written by fineliving56 , October 07, 2012
Common that is unfair …. Muslims did not have bulls … they had camels .
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written by Reed Wilson , October 08, 2012
Europeans were benefited by the discovery. They rather colonized America.

I am happy that Americas was discovered.
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Occupied for 781 years, still Spain retained her culture
written by Worldpeace , October 08, 2012
Spain is a good example of Europe's cultural resilience. To be predominantly occupied for close to a millennium by a marauding, desecrating, looting and enslaving culture and to not only survive but to completely free itself of Islam, is one of the rare wonders Spain has bequeathed to humanity.
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Columbus was looking for a route to India
written by ChrisLA , October 08, 2012
It is worth recalling that Columbus was looking for a route to India. Spain had just thrown off the yoke of Islamist domination. The Hindu and Buddhist Indians were twice invaded by Muslims, but many never abandonded their religions. The resiliance of those faiths in spite of the invasions is remarkable.
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Muslims had a role in the discovery of America...
written by Apostate , October 08, 2012
Islam's blockade upon the West's trade and commerce with the outside world for many centuries had inspired Columbus to look for an alternative route to India and ended up in America. That's the only role Islam had played in America's discovery.
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Muslims had a role in the discovery of America...
written by Apostate , October 08, 2012
Islam's blockade upon the West's trade and commerce with the outside world for many centuries had inspired Columbus to look for an alternative route to India and ended up in America. That's the only role Islam had played in America's discovery.
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sure
written by wilbret , October 08, 2012
Muslims discovered America , same as Mohammad landed on the moon before Niel amstrong to cut it into two
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Islamic Achievements
written by Gnostic , October 08, 2012
It is not fair to bash islam and muslims that much. Here a some major islamic achievements:

Wife bashing, beheading, chopping off hands and feet, the discovery that earth is flat, discovery that earth is in the center of space and many more!

Islamic women suffer from Osteomalacia because of the lack of sunlight when wearing the burka but they are even not allowed to take medicine against it because this might contain pig.

Unemployment is also a major islamic achievement because investors do not like to produce in countries with abundant fasting and prayer times.

The islamic world is the only civilisation with a ban on book printing for centuries.
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M.A.Khan - Editor.
written by vbv , October 08, 2012
I think it is not correct to say that Red Indians were from South Asia - this is very farfetched and irrational. The socalled red indians are indegenous natives of the american continent just as the Mayans, Aztecs, Incas ,etc. It is just like the desert barbarian cults of islam, judaism and christianity claiming that humanity arose from the mythical bullshit of Adam and Eve , and that too from the west Asia. Every population evolved seperately like the various strands of negroids in Africa, the caucasians in Central Europe, the Nords in North Europe,the various strands of mongoloids in China, Korea,Mongolia,etc or the aryans and dravidians in south Asia,etc. the bedouins of arabian peninsula are different from Egyptians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians or Persians. It is absolute bullshit to claim that the semetic race had precedence over other people and are derived from the Biblical/Quranic bullshit of Adam and Eve. Like the absurd claim of muslims that 'islam' preexisted all other religions and the first muslims were Adam and Eve. This is absolute idiocy and bigotry. I do not subscribe to such insular and bigoted perspectives. Anyway thank you for responding to my sarcastic posting with your sarcastic rebutal.
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Muslims' Achievements include.....
written by Brown Superman , October 08, 2012
Though not in the Koran or Hadiths, if a muslim person was to design a building (like the moors did), it would be called islamic architecture. If they designed some pattern for clothes, it would be called islamic designing just because the muslims did it. Or if an astronomer was a MUslim, his science will be called Islamic Astronomy. When Muslims farted, that would be Muslim Flatulence and a Muslim rape is when a muslim rapes, does not matter whether the victim is a women, infant child, or even a baby camel.
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Discovery of Americas
written by Gnostic , October 08, 2012
According to my knowledge the indigenous americans originally came from north asia by crossing the Bering Straits.

Other theories claim that south americans could also have derived from settlers from the pacific micronesia but this seems to be less likely.

In my view muslims are the most unlikely people of the world to discover or to invent anything new because all they can do is to look into the 1400 year old quran for something new!

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written by vbv , October 08, 2012
True, muslims will not stop at anything lying through their decayed teeth to claim anything for themselves. One may not be surprised if in the future they start claiming even Einstein as a muslim. Islam is a fraud that has robbed from the jews their patriarchs/prophets and rechristened them as "muslims". If the stories of the jewish mythologies are expunged from that shitbook called 'Koran' , it just becomes a war manual and a hagiography of that fake called Muhamad. To top it all they try to certify what "true God" ,true religion and whatnot sans morality !! For which they use that bullshit book called Koran.
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Islamic inventions!
written by Rationalist , October 08, 2012
The term Islamic invention is a fart of the worst order.
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to annad & fineliving56
written by Barry , October 08, 2012
I stand b4 you humbled and corrected... :)

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@ vbv & Mr. Khan
written by This is Rami Rustom , October 08, 2012
Humans evolved in Africa. Then they spread across the entire planet.

The Native Americans didn't travel from the Indian subcontinent (as they had no seafaring ships). They walked (during an ice age) from current-day Russia to America.
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Osteomalacia treatment.
written by Reed Wilson , October 08, 2012
Gnostic. You write "Islamic women suffer from Osteomalacia because of the lack of sunlight when wearing the burka but they are even not allowed to take medicine against it because this might contain pig."

The women should be thankful to you for the diagnosis. Osteomalacia is the softening of the bones caused by defective bone mineralization secondary to inadequate amounts of available phosphorus and calcium etc.

What treatment you suggest? I think if they apostatize and become a Christian, their bones would be hardened.
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written by Reed Wilson , October 08, 2012
Worldpeace. You write " Spain is a good example of Europe's cultural resilience." I copy paste some interesting reading for you below:

In the spring of 1492, shortly after the Moors were driven out of Granada, Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain expelled all the Jews from their lands and thus, by a stroke of the pen, put an end to the largest and most distinguished Jewish settlement in Europe. The expulsion of this intelligent, cultured, and industrious class was prompted only in part by the greed of the king and the intensified nationalism of the people who had just brought the crusade against the Muslim Moors to a glorious close. The real motive was the religious zeal of the Church, the Queen, and the masses. The official reason given for driving out the Jews was that they encouraged the Marranos to persist in their Jewishness and thus would not allow them to become good Christians.

The Edict of Expulsion of the Jews:The Edict went public during the week of April 29, 1492. The charter declared that no Jews were permitted to remain within the Spanish kingdom, and Jew who wished to convert was welcome to stay. The power of wealthy Spanish Jewry was inconsequential.

Whether a Jew was rich or or poor did not matter, they all still had to convert or leave. Ferdinand's plans for Spain, as distorted by the Christian racism prevalent in late 15th Century Spain, did not include the one group that had done so much to serve the state.
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@vbv, Rami
written by Editor, M A Khan , October 08, 2012
The migration of the semitic people in waves from the Arabian desert area in multiple waves over a long period of time is no Biblical fairytale. There is no way to make such stories of the Biblical texts. These are results of academic investigations.

I also agree with Rami. Humans didn't originate independently on all the continents. They have migrated from one source to create multiple pools and from those pools have to gone to different directions.

There have been some claims of Indians migrating to the Americas. It does look far fetched, but looking at their features, it does seem tempting to believe. At least Indian and Native Americans may have originated from the same pool. A comparative genetic study may be undertaken, if one hasn't been done yet.

About seafaring capacity of ancient Indian people was not so poor. They had travelled from the far end of India's Bengal to many parts of Southeast Asia by sea, and set up colonial rules. I believe few peoples had that capacity in those days. Nonetheless, travel from South Asia to the Americas by sea in those days does seem next to impossible.
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Submit or...
written by Anne , October 08, 2012
This theory would explain the disappearance of the Mayans and the Aztecs.
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Re: Reed: Bone deseases
written by Gnostic , October 09, 2012
In fact people with dark skin need more sunlight than people with white skin. This is a result of evolution which explains very well why people in nothern and cold countries usually have lighter skins than their peers in southern and warmer regions.

So if people from muslim countries move to europe they need even more sun and wearing a burka is likely to cause bone deficiencies after years!

Perhaps the women can take vitamin against it but is this the best solution? Why not enjoying the sunlight?

I hear that bone deficiancies are very widespread in islamic countries and people should ask why.

It is that the supposed to be all knowing quran failed to inform its followers to inform that humans in fact need sunlight in order to produce vitamin d!
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Edge of the earth
written by capt flint , October 09, 2012
It is possible that Muslim explorers visited North America while they were searching for the edge of earth.
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The Importance of Columbus
written by Guy Macher , October 09, 2012
Columbus is important, not because he was the first to discover America, but because he was the last man to have needed to discover it.
That said, Muslims never came here until Europeans brought them here. Not even the resident liar dare make the claim of pre-Columbian Muslims!
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guy
written by malem , October 09, 2012
You need to go back to school lad, Columbus was not the first to discover America, no wonder the west is falling behind China
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written by truthfirst , October 09, 2012
Islam discovered America??? How pathetic! Muslim male ego is the false idol of Islam.
I"ve made apple pies, and I know the American apple pie does not contain any death penalties for leaving your religion, nor death penalties for connecting the very obvious dots between pernicious religious beliefs and the criminal behavior those beliefs incite. Islam cannot possibly be "as American as apple pie" because Islam opposes the very principles that have made America great! Islam has always been the enemy of free speech, freedom of religion, and equal protection of the law.

The Balkans have long been the most backward states in Europe, and the Balkans are the only European states with large established Muslim populations. Northern Europe has far excelled southern Europe during the modern age. And what, pray tell, do the southern nations of Greece, Italy, and Spain have in common (besides being the economic basket cases that now threaten to destroy Europe)? Greece, Italy and Spain all had the misfortune to fall under Islamic rule! Why do northern Italians look down on southern Italians? Mmmm. Venice in the north stayed free of Islamic rule, while Sicily was long terrorized by, and briefly ruled by, the Islamic menace. I remember the first film I saw about modern Sicily - women socializing apart from the men, scuttling along the shore in their black shrouds - it looked like a medieval Muslim country! Sicily's tribal families feud as destructively as the Arab tribes, who insist on living by their own peculiar "laws" while ignoring national law. Not to mention that Sicily's rule of omerta matches CAIR's recent campaign to urge Muslim Americans never to co-operate with the FBI! - Muslims believe that any country once ruled by Islam is rightfully Islam's forever. The truth is that any country once ruled by Islam is tainted by destructive Muslim influences long after Islam has gone. Thank goodness Columbus discovered America!
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Who discovered America? /Vitamin D
written by Gnostic , October 09, 2012
The vikings, of course.

I would also like to point out that there are even more deseases connected with Vitamin D undersupply:

Osteomalazie, Rachitis, autoimmune deseases, Diabetes mellitus Type 1 (very widespread in Saudi Arabia), dementia (looks to be also widespread in the islamic world), higher blood pressure, metabolic syndrom, cancer (breast, leucemic, colon and many more) and generally shorter life expectation.

Is this enough?
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M.A.Khan
written by vbv , October 09, 2012
You say that migration of semetic people in "waves" is a fact. This is balderdash, absolute nonsense. In the entire history of humanity , the semetic people always were a small percentage of the entire world population. Whereas India( the entire South Asia), China always had populations that were many times greater than the entire population of west Asia even in prehistory.Not to mention that the natives of the american continents were also more numerous than the semetic people till the european settlers embarked on their mass genocides. To say that we all originated from the middle-east is a canard of the worst kind. Our language has no affinity with the middle-eastern language. Atleast there is some affinity between sanskrit, latin, greek and celtic or gaelic, but never with arabic,hebrew or aramaic. Migration from a very populous place to elsewhere is a natural phenomenon but the other way. I think you are also influence by the biblical bullshit of Adam and Eve. These two worthies had two sons Caine and Abel . From where did Caine and Abel get their mates from??? Did Yahweh pluck a woman each from their respective ribs ??? You cannot say Tiger , Kangaroo, Panda ,Tapir, Giraffe, hippos, etc had their origins in west Asia. You have to get out of the insular and absurd mindset of the west Asian cults of islam, judaism and christianity.
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written by Jye , October 09, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ure=relmfu
David Wood refutes 1001 "so called" Muslim inventions.
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@vbv
written by Editor, M A Khan , October 09, 2012
In Bible, there is no term like Semitic even. This term developed out of secular studies. Although historical studies of events that go back to 4-5 thousand years is hard to accept as facts, at least that's what academic investigations point to. We certainly can't take the fairy-tales of the so-called holy books for true.

And it is not impossible that Canaan, a small piece of land adjacent to the Arab desert, would have migrations from its neighbouring areas.

On which ground can we expect that Canaan would more likely have migrations from far-off India or China than from the next-door Arab deserts?

It is further unlikely that people from so fertile and resource-rich lands like China or India would move to desertish land of Canaan. Canaan is certainly more likely to attract migrations from the even more barren and desertish Arab Peninsula.
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Islamic Achievements
written by Gnostic , October 09, 2012
Perhaps there were some achievements during the so-called Golden Age of Islam, however, there are many points we should not overlook.

The term Golden Age of Islam itself is wrong because the achievements were not realized because of islam but much more against islam.

The Abbaside califes followed the persian/sassanide tradition and built a House of Wisdom were they encouraged scholars to translate and to do research. Many of them were christians, jews or zoroastrians.

Many muslims around Ibn Taimiyya and Ibn Hanbal opposed this activities because they called it heretic to their orthodox belief. In fact many modern fundamentalists and radicals are still favouring these islamic scholars who are also very close to the salafists.

Thus, we can say that islam is strictly against science. The more radical and the more fundamentalistic, the stronger is the opposition against science.

Book printing was forbidden for centuries throughout the islamic world and even today in the most advanced muslim countries internet sites are blocked because of their scientific contents that contradict islamic or quranic claims.

There are even radical islamic sects that all kind of western science and education is forbidden such as Boko Haram in Nigeria.
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Gnostic
written by Malem , October 11, 2012
Boko Haram is a militant extremist organization, who acts in opposition to the Koran, they should not be considered Muslims. As for locking Internet site the biggest offender is China lad. Again do your research, the more you post the more it sounds like you just cut and past from other similar sites, you wouldnt do that would you!! hahahah
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M.A.Khan - Editor
written by vbv , October 11, 2012
I have never infered that migrations to west Asia had taken place from India or China. There was no need to as both China and India had abundant resources and they prospered materially for a long time stretching over thousands of years. My contention is that each civilisation grew on its own , although it may have borrowed a little from elsewhere through international trade , just as others would have also benefited from such trade interactions. What about the Mayans or Incas in the American continent ? It is an insult to say that they owe anything to the barbarians of west Asia who were responsible for the destruction of civilisations in their own vicinity with their fanatical monotheistic supremacist hate cults.It is absurd to say that all humanity originated from west Asia. I totally reject this claim made by mad monotheistic , destructive hate cults with their absurd Adam and Eve bullshit.
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re: Malem
written by Gnostic , October 11, 2012
First, do not call me lad again! This is not polite!

Second, I did not cut and paste anything in my last article. If I do so I reveal that it is a quote.

Concerning Boko Haram I wrote that it is a radical sect which is the truth. But we still cannot say who has the right interpretation of the quran.

How can we EVER know what is the true intention of the quran. This is impossible and only another problem of islam.

You are confirming that there is no unity in the islamic worldl concerning the quran and in fact many are fighting each other.

Muslims kill muslims every day and there are always endless discussions and conflicts about what is true and what is not.

Why not leaving the quran aside and concentrating on how to tackle real problems with useful ideas?

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Proud to be a muslim
written by Khan , October 12, 2012
I am a muslim and proud to be 1 i would appreciate u understand wt islam is all about before u assume wt it is not, its never about violence, or un-civilised or about 70 virgins and Quran is a holly book to teach how to live ur life. Islam teaches loving ur parents, respecting ur neighbours and spread peace in the world. We r the fools Christians, Muslims, or anyone coz we belive wts shown in the TV is the truth never try to find out wt actually happened so don let this political fights named Religious come between our brotherhood and peace full life so my christian brothers, and everyone else lets fight for ourselfs not with each other.
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Gnostic
written by Malem , October 12, 2012
Your statement "How can we EVER know what is the true intention of the quran" is quite telling lad. If you read the Koran and understood it you would see that its intention is within the Koran itself. It spells it out very clearly to those who embrace it. Peace
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@ Malem
written by Brown Superman , October 12, 2012
Stop calling others "lad", unless you are a moron. Are you really thick skinned?
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Brown
written by Malem , October 12, 2012
I believe I have addressed the dermis inquiry in an earlier post lad, why do you continue to ask the same question over and over? Do you think you will get a different answer? Peace
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To all
written by fineliving56 , October 12, 2012
if Malam say calling every one '' lad and lass '' only a term of endearment then he must have no problem for us call him a '' lad '' … in other word …. a boy

Now …have you ever heard of a lad with 2 wives ?
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re: Malem
written by Gnostic , October 12, 2012
You are wrong. So many people agree that the quran is not easy to understand at all. There are different schools of law with different interpretation and there are many verses in the quran nobody really understands.

And without the hadith, muslims would not know how to pray and how to fast and so on.
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to Gnostic
written by Yibel , October 13, 2012
Malem is quite right, you know. If you read the Qur'an and understood it you would see that its intention is within the Qur'an itself:

Anyone who has studied Muhammad's Quran, knows that the Quran not only incites violence, but also preaches explicit hatred against Christians, Jews and all other Unbelievers. Muhammad in his Quran, declared total and eternal WAR, against all those who do not believe in Muhammad's concept of god (i.e. Allah) AND in Muhammad as ITS prophet.

Those who are not followers of the CULT of Muhammad, are given three choices: Convert to slavery to the CULT and your life will be spared; Submit to eternal and utter humiliation by paying the jizya extortion tax for the peoples of the Book, such as the Jews, Christians and Zoroasterians; Death, Enslavement and Forced Conversion, to be inflicted upon Hindus, Buddhists, Animists, Atheists and the like.

Al Tauba 9:5 But when the forbidden months are past then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent (i.e. become Muslims) and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity (i.e. pay zakat tax) then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful"
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Forgotten
written by Yibel , October 14, 2012
is the reason why Columbus set sail - It was to discover a route to India and Southeast Asia. Why? Because of the Muslims. The ancient overland trade routes had been taken over by the Muslim invaders, the Meditterranean Sea routes were controlled by Muslim pirates, and Constantinople had just been conquered by the Muslim Turks.

The Muslims destroyed the Pax Romana - the humanist civilization created by the Greeks and spread by the Romans throughout the north and west of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=389
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re: Yibel
written by Gnostic , October 14, 2012
Of course! The quran was probably written to incite hate because the arab conquerors were in need for for a reason to fight its enemies.

How can we let people hate the others?

The answer is: By declaring them infidels! The only purpose of islam is to obtain a monopoly for god, for the truth and everything. In order to achieve this it is necessary to exclude all non muslims. The way to achieve this is the declaration that islam is the only true monotheistic religion and that all other religions are blasphemic. And that the trinity of christian faith is even the worst blasphemy of all.

This of course is all nonsense. Monotheism is not an invention of islam. Echnaton inventend it in ancient Egypt, later it was invented in judaism and christianity.

Even the ancient greeks, hindus and even chinese believed at last temporarily in pantheistic faiths. Some gnostics believe in one superior and one inferior god.

The islamic claim that trinity means polytheism is the same as we would say that islam in fact believes in 99 gods since there are so many names.

Or how about jinns and angels? Muslims believe in them but according to some religions, they are gods too! In Japan, they are talkin of kami=gods, but some of them are much more like jinns or angels.

It is very similar with the devas in hinduism, bodhisattvas and other beings in buddhism or many other religions. If there are many gods they are all not so important and there remains space for the one, most important one.

This idea is not new at all.

Nobody can ever know the whole truth but islam claims the monopoly in order to force down all other people. This is why islam was invented by power hungry humans.
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Gnostic
written by Malem , October 16, 2012
There is no hate lad, just peace. Peace loving Islam, their to embrace you with its openness. Remember there is no compulsion in Islam, we let those who choose it not to live in peace as we always have.
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Peace loving Islam in deed
written by Yibel , October 16, 2012
Fight until no other religion exists but Islam! Islam is a religion of hate. Read the Quran and you will find much hate therein:
“O True believers, when you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads.” (Quran 47:4). “Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a fierce slaughter.” (Q. 33:61)” “Lo! Thy Sustainer inspired the demons: “I am with you! And, give firmness unto those who have attained to faith. I shall cast terror into the hearts of those who are bent on denying Islam; strike, then, their necks, O believers, and strike off every one of their finger-tips!“ (Q. 8:12-15) "The believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed." (Q. 9:111) "Therefore, the curse of Allah is upon the unbelievers!” (Q. 2:89)
"Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His demons and messengers, to Jibril and Malik, lo! Allah is an enemy of the unbelievers.(Q. 2:97) "Kill them (unbelievers) wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you, for persecution is worse than slaughter…. Such is the reward of those who reject faith.” (Q. 2:191) "Fight against them (unbelievers) until there is no dissension, and the religion is for Allah.” (Q. 2:193)"But those who believe and those who migrate and struggle in the way of Allah, those, have hope of the mercy of Allah.” (Q. 2:218) "The only true faith in Allah’s sight is Islam. Those to whom the book was given disagreed among themselves only after knowledge had been given to them, being insolent among themselves. He who disbelieves the verses of Allah indeed Allah is swift in reckoning.” (Q. 3:19) "The Last Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and KILL THEM" (Sahih Muslim 6981-6985)
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Yable
written by fineliving56 , October 16, 2012
I just like to say I appreciate your tireless study of Quran and posting it …

These hated verses I studied all my life are sources of negative emotions for me … but to see so many non Muslims study Quran and Islam and expose it as the non sense it really is, gives me such validation to what I have been trying to say .

good job
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@yible
written by Malem , October 16, 2012
Why not present the entire section of the Surah 1.191, like the preceeding portion and the following portion. It wouldnt be because you like to present things out of context would it?

Prior to the line you cut and paste it states "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress." So in other words this is a defensive mode against attackers and oppressors, not an offensive mode.

After your cut and paste it states" Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors....But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

You see context lad is a powerful thing, it brings perspective to what otherwise is just selective editing and posturing for your own self serving pleasure, but you wouldnt do that right?

good job

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