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Another Movie on Muhammad and Islam Coming Soon from Spain

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Once again black smoke in the sky (from burning U.S. embassies), another episode of loss of innocent human lives, and destruction of world peace. Caused by who? No doubt, and unsurprisingly, by Muslims.

A movie trailer was uploaded on Youtube from the U.S., which showed how Muhammad falsely created his religion, Islam, how he used to kill people in the name of his made-up God, and how he lusted for women and sex.


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Muslims as usual couldn’t bear the truth and responded with violence, killing innocent people, burning and vandalizing American and other Western embassies, and desecrated the flags of those countries. Let me ask Muslims: What was in that movie that was not true?

Wasn’t Muhammad a self-proclaimed prophet? Wasn’t he a violent man, who initiated many wars and committed several mass-killings which are clearly registered by Muslim scholars in history books? Wasn’t he a man, who used to have about a dozen wives including minor child Aisha, and even his daughter in law Zainab?

Nothing in the movie is a lie or false invention by its producers. Yet, instead of trying to understand the facts and giving this matter a serious thought, blind Muslims worldwide showed, once again, their lowly and uncivilized Islamic character by unleashing massive violence and vandalism, and even snatching innocent lives.

While tens of thousands of Muslims engaged violence and killing against US interests and persons, we heard a few faint Muslims voices doing lip-service to show their false solidarity with USA. This is a perfect example of the Islamic “Taqiyya” (The Islamic concept of lying and mislead people in certain situations). When their religious brethren inflict wounds, they stand beside like silent spectators. When that is done, these deceptive pretenders come mainly on the media cunningly pretending to heal it, whose sole purpose is nothing but save the face of Islam.

Muslims – irrespective of those engaging in violence or the pretenders – call themselves followers of a peaceful religion. Is this the way to prove that Islam is the most peaceful, tolerant and full-of-love religion? You, by your own actions, prove that critics of Islam are correct – that is, Islam is the most violent, aggressive, intolerant and hateful religion that poses a great obstacle to progress and peace in this world.

If you didn’t like the movie, you should have pointed out where there producers erred or exaggerated. You could have brought the producers to court to face the law. Or you could even do a tit for tat by producing a movie on the life of Jesus or Moses in like manner? In the least, you could protest in a peaceful manner to show your tolerance and civility, to show your willingness to tackle matters through peaceful measures and negotiations.

Let me reveal a very important fact here: The anger Muslims are throwing about is not just about the movie itself, it is also about the hate and jealousy that have been piled on in their hearts against US and other western nations over decades. And see the result: this violence is killing more Muslims than Americans, their target.

I have always said that Muslims can’t become true and sincere friends of the Western world until they break the Islamic shackle that grips them.

A civilized response to violent Muslims -- Making another movie exposing Muhammad from Spain

We, the peace-loving citizens of the world do not believe in taking revenge, but in certain cases it is necessary to respond to unjustified violence, but in a peaceful manner. I take an oath today that I will put all my energy, will and spirit to create a movie on the truth of Islam as soon as possible and release it for the world to see. My movie will not be a comedy or slapping Muslims unnecessarily, but it will be the pure truth about Muhammad’s violent, lustful and dirty life. Through my movie, I will prove that Muhammad was a self-proclaimed prophet. I will also mention all the violent verses of Quran in that movie, aiming to compel Muslim viewers to think at least once how Islam can be a true and holy religion?

Do Muslims think that they can intimidate us to silence by burning embassies, committing violence, and destroying human lives? No, not at all! We believe in speaking truth, it’s our human rights, and we will secure and exercise it no matter how much we have to suffer. We will continue fighting for preserving our right to freedom of speech and liberty of living life without fear; we will not compromise on our hard-earned civilized values and self-respect, come what may.

My movie will aim to leave a clear message to Muslims that violence is not a solution; instead, it is the truth that will triumph. It will be aimed at changing the minds of wiser Muslims by making them understand who Muhammad was and what Islam is. I will try my level best keep the theme of my movie non-provocative toward Muslims, but then I can’t guarantee that it will incite violence, given Muslims engage in violence at one place or another, irrespective of a movie or not. It’s their religious obligation under the great holy concept of Jihad.

I have always said, which I repeat, that I was not, am not, and will not be against Muslims as human beings. What I have issue with is their faith, Islam, which is not only fake, but also violent and dangerous for humanity. I strongly believe that if Muslims leave Islam and become free humans, they can be a progressive, contributory people to world civilization like all others. The much time and effort they invest in their religious rituals and Jihad, if they spend only half of that for the progress of the world, this world can be much more modern and conflict free.

My challenge to Muslims – Stop me if you can

I am starting work on the movie from tomorrow morning. I invite Muslims to stop me if they can. It is my challenge that my movie will be in front of the world very soon. It will be the first movie on Muhammad to be produced by an ex-Muslim. For that reason, I can assure you that you will find something special in that movie. Don’t miss it. I aim to produce the movie in at least 4 to 5 languages, so that the Muslims from various countries can understand that and give a serious thought to their religious belief.

I’m challenging Muslims again, I am starting work on the movie right now for exposing the cunning and self-proclaimed prophet of Islam. Stop me if you can. The countdown to release of the movie starts now.

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Imran Firasat is a Pakistani ex-Muslim, living in Spain. His Website www.mundosinislam.com (World without Islam)

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To the Author
written by Archpagan , September 17, 2012
I wish you all the best. The proposed movie should have Urdu and Bangla versions.

Muslims should commit suicide if they cannot bear the truth. Violence on their part without pointing out where the movie went wrong, only proves that they have much to hide not only from the infidels but also from their own folks. Schizophrenia in the virtual world, which our dear Reed practices here will be of no help in the real world.
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To Imran Firasat and all
written by fineliving56 , September 17, 2012
Helo

Yes there was few *untruths *in the film according to [ Quran, hadeeth and Sira al rasool ]

Muhammad was not gay and Omar was not gay .. there is nothing in any major Islamic sources that indicate, that Muhammad and Omar were gay … each one of them had many wives and women slaves who have been used for sex and *no man was named as a partner for either of them* …. that weakens the offect of the film that is beside the fact that it was excreemly poorly made.

Another mistake is Muhammad being a bastard … that is not clear at all … I have searched all hedeeth and I have found nothing to indict his mother had an affair …

If any reader have a proof from any Islamic sources I hope he or she will proveded .. please

All the other events are correct … Muhammad did all of them again according to Islamic sources …

That film was a mistake [ being wrong in some parts and being a bad movie ] … it only weakend the charges we all are trying to put out here and in other sites to excpose Islam …

What it should have been done is, a well made film on the TRUE life of Muhammad, EXACTLY as Quran,hadeeth and Sira depicted… nothing more nothing less a big production made by well known studio in Hollywood …

When the time, comes when Hollywood producers have the courage to do that and when money in NOT the object but humen survival and especially American lives, IS, then we get some where … not that lousy and mistaken film.

Dr. Ali Sina has said he is at work with big production Hollywood producers to make a film on the life of Muhammad …. but I do not know about that any more … his sites faithfreedom .org and Ali Sina .org disappeared for more then a week now, and I am worried considering the violence we have been seeing by Muslims all over .
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Muslim Anger
written by Vineet , September 17, 2012
The anger the Muslims show at any and every given opportunity showcases that they themselves know that if they debate Quran, Prophet etc they will be found wanting.

And this comes from generations and generations of mindless reading of Quran and waiting for 72 virgins. Have you ever heard them ready to engage in some logical debate. Atleast in India I haven't seen it in last 25-30 years.

Recently in a suburb of New Delhi, thousands of Muslims reached a police station to protest against a Quran being found with torn pages on a railway track. They started shouting slogans, burning vehicles and also misbehaving with passing crowd. When situation got out of hand police resorted to firing only after exhausting options of water canon, tear gas shells, rubber bullets. 6 muslim youths died and now poor policeman will be punished for trying to bring some order and normalcy.

Muslims are becoming more and more nuisance

They have made violence a tool to silence critics and will continue to do so.

In India since they vote en-bloc, the Congress party and the psuedo-secularists turn blind eye to what they do.

Infact there should be atleast 30 movies on Islam in next 6 months. We will have to fight this mindset.

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@Vineet
written by kundan , September 17, 2012
Hi Vineet, you are right. Even two weeks prior to that , there was an incidence in Mayur Vihar in Delhi. A traffic policeman stopped a muslim boy who was riding a bike witout wearing a helment.The boy escpaed and just sped across. The policeman threw his stick and the it hit the bike and boy fell down and was hit by a car from behind and died. Although this was rather unfortunate event, it had no relation to communal violence, but within an hour or two, thosands of muslim took to street, vandalizing everything. They even burnt a petrol pump. I was leaving for my home late at night, without realizing what had occured. Three-four boys were on the street and waived me to stop the bike. I usualy do not give lift late at night, so i just spead across slantly. But the strange thing this time was, they just surrounded the whole road. The next morning when i went to petrol station, i found 2 petrol dispensers burning along with a whole tanker. I asked the pump boy as to what happend and mentioned about the yesterday's even.Overall, i agree that it was rather unfortunate event fr the child to die but as u can see, it was partially his fault too.Muslims openly flout the law thinking that the area whereever they are in great numbers as their "ilaka" and they can do anything. A complain in police or anything of that sort should have been matter .If nothing occcured, they should have taken to the street in peaceful julus demanding justice and done the vandalization only at the last step. But they immediately went against the kafirs in general and kafir police..Islam is a dead thing. Either it will die or it will make us all die.Mir. Firasat, you are a farista to all of us if u do as u say..
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to Imran Firasat
written by ANNAD , September 17, 2012
Good idea! and good luck and safety to you!
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INTERNATIONAL BISHOP OF STEP OF FAITH WORLDVISION
written by WILLIAM BAKER , September 17, 2012
JESUS SAID" I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE" I PRAY THAT ALL PEOPLE WILL BE SAVED. FALSE RELIGIONS MUST BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, GO TOCRGN.US
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written by fineliving56 , September 17, 2012
I wrote a post to Imran and it is gone … I am hoping that it get to be posted so I do not have to write another so no repetition happens .

Thanks
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Moh and his movie
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 18, 2012
Bring it on. Bring the truth of Islam to masses.
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Imran Firasat
written by INFIDEL kafir , September 18, 2012
please dont dissapoint us your fans. we are EAGERLY WAITING FOR THE NEXT MOVIE OF MOHAMMED FROM SPAIN. CHEEER!!!!
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Imran Firasat
written by INFIDEL kafir , September 18, 2012
please dont dissapoint us your fans. we are EAGERLY WAITING FOR THE NEXT MOVIE OF MOHAMMED FROM SPAIN. CHEEER!!!!
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No disappointment
written by Imran , September 18, 2012
Dont worry. I will not disappoint anyone. I am putting all my energy into making the movie for exposing Muhammad. You dont know how much I hate Islam.
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Please make it as soon as possible
written by Abubakar , September 18, 2012
Please make it as soon as possible , i cant wait , i missed on this one the innocence of islam because youtube has been blocked in pak but dont wanna miss on yours
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Imran Firasat
written by kope , September 18, 2012

Imran Firasat

go for it


there are lots of good western people , you only going to makes western's people piss and they may convert to islam because of your hates toward other religion



read my blog your heart will burn like a hell on earth

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TO ALL PHOMBHIEEEEESSS
written by shabeer , September 18, 2012
TO ISLAMPBHOBHIES.................

MAKING FILM,CARTOONS,BURNING QURAN ,SAYS BAD WORDS TO PROPHETS & ALLHA SHOWS U'R WEAKNESS TO DEBATE WITH ISLAM & MUSLIM,ITS SHOWS U'R COWARDLINESS & FEAR OF TRUTH................. PIETY SHAME ON U PHOBIEES...................WE LIKE FIGHT WITH COURAGEOUS MEN WITH TRUTH EVIDENCE FORM SCRIPTURES & GOOD MANNERS ,WE RESPECT ALL RELIGION ,THEIR SCRIPTURES,THEIR PROPHET &GOD ,WE EVER BURN THEIR SCRIPTURE,EVER SAYS BAD WORD TO THEIR PROPHETS,GOD AND RELIGIOUS RESPECTED PERSON ,YES WE R MUSLIM,THE MOST IDEAL,TRUSTFUL,GOOD MANNERS PEOPLE ON EARTH............................................................

DARE TO FIGHT LIKE A MEN ....................OR SUCIDE U'R SELF OR DARE TO SAYS SHAHADA LIKE COURAGIOUS WESTERN PEOPLE.......................................

PIETY SHAME ON UUU............................
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“Innocence of Muslims”: Film and International Crisis
written by shabeer , September 18, 2012
12 Essential points about the offensive film on the Prophet Muhammad, and the subsequent reactions in Libya & Egypt, Omid Safi http://www.religionnews.com/bl...mad-and-th

ADL: Anti-Muslim Christian Activists Responsible For Inflammatory “Innocence of Muslims” Film http://blog.adl.org/

Anti-Islam Film Linked to ‘Islamophobic Industry’ http://www.voanews.com/content...07803.html

Coptic Bishops blast Coptic Christians behind anti-Muslim film http://ncronline.org/news/peop...uslim-film

Death By Fiction In The ‘Innocence of Muslims’ Riots, Alyssa Rosenberg http://thinkprogress.org/alyss...ght-rises/
Anti American Protest: Free Speech or Inciting a Riot? , James Turnage http://guardianlv.com/2012/09/...ng-a-riot/
The burden of speech, Timothy Egan http://opinionator.blogs.nytim...of-speech/
Free speech and incitement http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/...ncitement/
Free Speech: Conservatives, Democrats and the convenience of denouncing free speech, Glenn Greenwald http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...ch-muslims
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“Innocence of Muslims”: Film and International Crisis
written by shabeer , September 18, 2012
12 Essential points about the offensive film on the Prophet Muhammad, and the subsequent reactions in Libya & Egypt, Omid Safi http://www.religionnews.com/bl...mad-and-th

ADL: Anti-Muslim Christian Activists Responsible For Inflammatory “Innocence of Muslims” Film http://blog.adl.org/

Anti-Islam Film Linked to ‘Islamophobic Industry’ http://www.voanews.com/content...07803.html

Coptic Bishops blast Coptic Christians behind anti-Muslim film http://ncronline.org/news/peop...uslim-film

Death By Fiction In The ‘Innocence of Muslims’ Riots, Alyssa Rosenberg http://thinkprogress.org/alyss...ght-rises/
Anti American Protest: Free Speech or Inciting a Riot? , James Turnage http://guardianlv.com/2012/09/...ng-a-riot/
The burden of speech, Timothy Egan http://opinionator.blogs.nytim...of-speech/
Free speech and incitement http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/...ncitement/
Free Speech: Conservatives, Democrats and the convenience of denouncing free speech, Glenn Greenwald http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...ch-muslims
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Good, Imran.
written by Worldpeace , September 18, 2012
It is a worthwhile venture, Imran. Muslims should, somehow, be made to watch the film armed with copies of their Koran, Ahadith. Siratal Rasool, for easy cross referencing.
Fineliving56, welldone. You are the masters of this site. Your observation above is correct. Any film should portray Muhammed as is in the Islamic texts.
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Hey killer you are back
written by abc , September 18, 2012
A scrappy website, some Bollywood songs, some crappy pictures and now a film.
A bit desperate if you ask me. Why don't you just audition for Spain's got talent as a clown?? You never know, you may get the infamy and cash you desire.

"I take an oath today that I will put all my energy, will and spirit to create a movie on the truth of Islam as soon as possible and release it for the world to see"
Cross your heart and hope to die???

He he he!
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Kope and ABC
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 18, 2012
Why do you hide on your blog. Why dont you put real details like Radhashyam Brahmchari?

ABC I wish you to bring out the truth in your movie about the Hadiths and Koran (if your understand the meaning of the verses).
Hope to die, I reciprocate your wish onto you.
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written by Jon , September 18, 2012
Make it, the more that is out there the better and if they riot, burn and kill again it will just strenghten the movement against these people who believe in this sick cult.
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 18, 2012
Archpagan. You write "Schizophrenia in the virtual world, which our dear Reed practices here will be of no help in the real world".

Schizophrenia seems right diagnosis, I am not divided. They people who love the blasphemous literature of hadis and cannot bear when it shapes are the ones who suffer from this painful disorder.

I will have sympathies and will pity on them. They will not commit suicide as they undergo self destruction.

Enmity with sufferers of disease is not right thing to do and shall be harmful for all.
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To Shabeer
written by Archpagan , September 20, 2012
You do not believe in Allah. Rather you believe in protecting the honor of a bandit-leader, blood-thirsty murderer, rapist, pedophile, slave-trader who usurped authority of Allah. Open your eyes moron. Everywhere, You just follow that worst criminal and shamelessly claim to be following a religion. Islam is not a religion at all. Islam means killing infidels or force them to become Muslim, so that your rank swells and you go on committing crimes more effectively on infidels in name of Allah. If you follow that crime schedule put up my Mo you will get 72 houries in afterlife. That's all about your so-called religion. It's just a travesty of the word religion. We are intelligent enough to see through your ugly game. If you respect other religions, why do you want us to say sahada? Shame on you, morans- criminals. You are the worst people on earth. ALL CRIMINALS. YOU CAME INTO THIS WORLD BY THE SWORD, LIVE ON BY THE SWORD AND WILL DEFINITELY VANISH FROM THE WORLD BY THE SWORD. YOU ARE FIT TO BE CAGED LIKE FEROCIOUS ANIMALS AND DISPLAYED IN THE ZOOS.
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Final solution to eradicate ISLAM . Internet, communication revolutions and awareness by unbelievers and by Moslems themselves
written by kafir-infidel , September 20, 2012
I believe so . Final solution to eradicate is at hand . But the question is WIll ISLAM disappear with out any destruction and killings of unbelievers or will ISLAM bring and cause havoc before it's disaapearance? In other words WILL ISLAM make a peaeful exit ? I dont believe so . The fruit of ISLAM is poison. Before the world experience full freedom,peace, love, the world has to experience the demonic acts of ISLAM , because the basic nature of ISLAM is fear,terror, destruction and killing. These are the pillars of ISLAM.
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Thank goodness.
written by Worldpeace , September 20, 2012
I am happy that you are back IW.
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written by isuru , September 20, 2012
feel sorry for people who still believes that the earth is flat....
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 20, 2012
Archpagan. You write to Mr. Shabeer " You do not believe in Allah. Rather you believe in protecting the honor of ....".

It is a good point. I would suggest minor rewording like:

"You do not worship Allah. Rather you worship .....".

I am not sure if he is a he. I put Mr. It is risky sometime:)

Archpagan Quran takes this kind of blasphemy as routine. Rather Allah is rather sympathetic towards those who mock at.

حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ ۚ مَا يَأْتِيهِمْ مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

Ah! Alas for (My) Servants! There comes not a messenger to them but they mock him!


فَإِنْ كَذَّبُوكَ فَقَدْ كُذِّبَ رُسُلٌ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ جَاءُوا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ وَالْكِتَابِ الْمُنِيرِ

"But if they reject you, so indeed were rejected before you apostles who came with clear arguments and scriptures and the illumining book."- Qur'an 3:184

كَذَّبَتْ قَبْلَهُمْ قَوْمُ نُوحٍ وَالْأَحْزَابُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِمْ ۖ وَهَمَّتْ كُلُّ أُمَّةٍ بِرَسُولِهِمْ لِيَأْخُذُوهُ ۖ وَجَادَلُوا بِالْبَاطِلِ لِيُدْحِضُوا بِهِ الْحَقَّ فَأَخَذْتُهُمْ ۖ فَكَيْفَ كَانَ عِقَابِ

But before them, who denied the Signs,- the People of Noah, and the Confederates after them; and every People plotted against their prophet, to seize him, and disputed by means of vanities, therewith to condemn the Truth; but it was I that seized them! and how was the requital! Qur'an 40:5

So Archpagan, a Quran follower like Reed will not hit his head against wall on such films and cartoons. He would rather have sympathies with the wrongdoers.

My apologies with Mr. Shabeer if I misunderstood him.

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written by Reed Wilson. , September 20, 2012
Archpagan. You write to Mr. Shabeer “You do not believe in Allah. Rather you believe in protecting the honor of ....".

It is a good point. I would suggest minor rewording like:

"You do not worship Allah. Rather you worship .....".

I am not sure if he is a he. I put Mr. It is risky sometime :)

Archpagan Quran takes this kind of blasphemy as routine. Rather Allah is sympathetic towards those who mock at. Quran 36:30, 3:184, 40:5


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written by Reed Wilson. , September 20, 2012
Archpagan. I composed for you. They say it will appear later. May be!
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Archpagan.
written by Reed Wilson. , September 20, 2012
Archpagan Quran takes this kind of blasphemy as routine. Rather Allah is rather sympathetic towards those who mock at.

حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ ۚ مَا يَأْتِيهِمْ مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

Ah! Alas for (My) Servants! There comes not a messenger to them but they mock him!


فَإِنْ كَذَّبُوكَ فَقَدْ كُذِّبَ رُسُلٌ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ جَاءُوا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ وَالْكِتَابِ الْمُنِيرِ

"But if they reject you, so indeed were rejected before you apostles who came with clear arguments and scriptures and the illumining book."- Qur'an 3:184

كَذَّبَتْ قَبْلَهُمْ قَوْمُ نُوحٍ وَالْأَحْزَابُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِمْ ۖ وَهَمَّتْ كُلُّ أُمَّةٍ بِرَسُولِهِمْ لِيَأْخُذُوهُ ۖ وَجَادَلُوا بِالْبَاطِلِ لِيُدْحِضُوا بِهِ الْحَقَّ فَأَخَذْتُهُمْ ۖ فَكَيْفَ كَانَ عِقَابِ

But before them, who denied the Signs,- the People of Noah, and the Confederates after them; and every People plotted against their prophet, to seize him, and disputed by means of vanities, therewith to condemn the Truth; but it was I that seized them! and how was the requital! Qur'an 40:5

So Archpagan, a Quran follower like Reed will not hit his head against wall on such films and cartoons. He would rather have sympathies with the wrongdoers.

My apologies with Mr. Shabeer if I misunderstood him.

Archpagan Quran takes this kind of blasphemy as routine. Rather Allah is rather sympathetic towards those who mock at.

حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ ۚ مَا يَأْتِيهِمْ مِنْ رَسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

Ah! Alas for (My) Servants! There comes not a messenger to them but they mock him!


فَإِنْ كَذَّبُوكَ فَقَدْ كُذِّبَ رُسُلٌ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ جَاءُوا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ وَالْكِتَابِ الْمُنِيرِ

"But if they reject you, so indeed were rejected before you apostles who came with clear arguments and scriptures and the illumining book."- Qur'an 3:184

كَذَّبَتْ قَبْلَهُمْ قَوْمُ نُوحٍ وَالْأَحْزَابُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِمْ ۖ وَهَمَّتْ كُلُّ أُمَّةٍ بِرَسُولِهِمْ لِيَأْخُذُوهُ ۖ وَجَادَلُوا بِالْبَاطِلِ لِيُدْحِضُوا بِهِ الْحَقَّ فَأَخَذْتُهُمْ ۖ فَكَيْفَ كَانَ عِقَابِ

But before them, who denied the Signs,- the People of Noah, and the Confederates after them; and every People plotted against their prophet, to seize him, and disputed by means of vanities, therewith to condemn the Truth; but it was I that seized them! and how was the requital! Qur'an 40:5

So Archpagan, a Quran follower like Reed will not hit his head against wall on such films and cartoons. He would rather have sympathies with the wrongdoers.

My apologies with Mr. Shabeer if I misunderstood him.

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Verse for circumcision
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 20, 2012
Dear all i.e. AKI, abc, RW, malam, RW and any other knowledgeble person on this site please show me the verse for circumcision in Quran.
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MAYBE ORIGINAL ALLAH OF ARABS IS FIGHTING BACK AGAINST ISLAMIC-MUHAMED ALLAH
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , September 20, 2012
MAYBE ORIGINAL ALLAH OF ARABS IS FIGHTING BACK AGAINST ISLAMIC-MUHAMED ALLAH.

MAY TRUTH WIN AND JIHADISLAM BE DESTROYED.
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Ayn Rand's Objectivism
written by Brian , September 20, 2012
I applaud you enthusiastically.

Ideally your movie would be able to point your viewers towards an alternative non-religious philosophy for living on earth; one that respects individual rights and capitalism, and is based on the facts of reality.

Here's a great overview: http://tinyurl.com/objectivism1
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All the best
written by Sujit Das (from India) , September 20, 2012

Dear Imran

All the best. We need brave people like you. I am always on your side.

By the way I am almost completing a book exposing the ungodly God of Islam. Hopefully the book will hit the market by April / 13. This is a non-profit making project.

I also challenge the Muslims and their Allah -- STOP ME IF YOU CAN !!!!

Regards

Sujit Das (The soldier of truth and defender of humanity)
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 21, 2012
Imran Firasat. Muslims, if they are muslims, should not take any notice of such films and cartoons on two counts, as Quran discourages anger, encourages forgiving and tells that such mockery was not unusual. Secondly all these cartoons and films are made on Muhammad of hadis who is a fictional character.
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The death of ISLAM and it's burial .
written by kafir-infidel , September 21, 2012
IMRAN FIRASAT - One great spiritual warriar and freedom,peace lover.
Please make a movie on ISLAM and MO , exactly as it was presented in QQUURRAAN, SIRA and HADITHS . Give reference ( from these sources) whenever you are presenting the relevent part and story. References from ISLAMIC authentic sources will silence the TAQIYYA merchants like Reed wilson, MALEM and abc the real evil and hate purveyers of ISLAM. Also , please make this easily accessible to PAKISTANIS, BANGLADESHIS, and INDIANS including all INDIANS like christians,moslems, Buddhists ,SIKHS,JAINS , apart from Moslems young and old, educated and uneducated, college going young moslem women. and pose the question - Do you want to worship and follow such a character like MO ? If you want to be a good human being, you must leave ISLAM and be happy.
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 21, 2012
Infidel and More Proud. You write " Dear all i.e. AKI, abc, RW, malam, RW and any other knowledgeable person on this site please show me the verse for circumcision in Quran."

There is no mention of circumcision in Quran as such. However we dont have to alter the form.

Dont get yourself circumcised any more.
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RW and circumcision
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 21, 2012
RW if there is no mention in Quran then why do all muslims get circumcised ?
Are you guys AKI, Kope , Malam circumcised ?
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Sujit
written by abc , September 21, 2012
"I also challenge the Muslims and their Allah -- STOP ME IF YOU CAN !!!!"

Your own stupidity will stop you!

Firasat is full of hot air. Wanna be Bollywood stat!
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 21, 2012
Infidel and More Proud. You write "RW if there is no mention in Quran then why do all muslims get circumcised?

If it is not mentioned in Q and not forbidden, it can be practiced.In my opinion it is forbidden impliedly as I told you in my last post.

Circumcision is a Jew traditional practice which pilfered into Bible and into hadis.

Recently German court ruled that circumcision violated a boy’s constitutional right to bodily integrity and that it was the child’s right to decide, once he reaches adulthood, whether he wants to have his body irreversibly changed.

“For Jews, circumcision is a Biblical commandment, and it’s supposed to be done on the eighth day,” says Dr. Stern. “We’re also talking about an ancient tradition that goes back over three thousand years.”

This is a news clipping I searched for you Infidel, viewing your special interest in prepuce.

About my circumcision, I dont have to publicize it here. It is of no help in the discussion.
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RW and your usual Takiya
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 21, 2012
Muslims practice circumcision cause it is part of Sunnah.
It is also referred to as sunnat.

Because of this fact there is no muslim as Quran only muslim as it is not prescribed in Quran. Muslims who are circumcised yet claim are to be Quran only are liars or otherwise a higher form of Takiya artists. Sunnah comes from hadiths (shahih or not) and the only true muslim is the one who who follows sunnah (otherwise also known as life of Moh) therfore there cannot be a quran only muslim. RW I can provide more reasoning from Quran (verses) where it says to follow Moh from Quran which imlies to follow Sunnah which is found in hadiths. This contradicts your parroting of follow the quran blah blah.
Feel free to challenge this and BTW I am not interested in prepuce your or any other but the resoning behind the practice to lob it off. You being a muslim should have provided a more sensible answer rather then the orgion in jewish tradition or Christian tradition.
Did you mean to say moh was circumcised due to his following jewesh or christian traditions?
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written by Infidel and More Proud , September 21, 2012
My post in RWs response got eaten by site bot....
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written by Reed Wilson. , September 22, 2012
Infidal. You write "You being a muslim should have provided a more sensible answer rather then the orgion in jewish tradition or Christian tradition."

Thank you. You get me. It is tradition. Messengers came to abolish traditions. Jesus was humiliated and was plotted for killing.

You write "RW I can provide more reasoning from Quran (verses) where it says to follow Moh from Quran which implies to follow Sunnah which is found in hadiths."

Please do that. Does Quran also say 'follow Sunnah which is found in hadiths'? Who said it is in hadis? The publisher of hadis!!!

Thanks for your post.

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written by atoz , September 23, 2012
HE HAS TEN WIVES AND WHORE AFTER THIS HE LIKE TO BE f**kED.
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"Messengers came to abolish traditions" @ RW
written by Infidel and More Proud , September 23, 2012
How did your messanger come to abolish this tradition?
He was himself missing this bit and followed it.
And your kind get this bit lobbed in order to follow/copy sunnah or Mohs life and actions.

RW please tell where is Sunnah documented?
Where are its origins?
Are muslims obliged to follow Sunnah?
Was Moh able to abolish this tradition?
If they are not obliged why do they follow sunnah?
If they dont have to follow sunnah whose life have they to emulate in Mohs place?
In case Quran is not clear on something how is it arbitrated?
Just to make your life easy the last questions answer is within a sura, verse.
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Abolition of Traditions.
written by Reed Wilson , September 23, 2012
Infidel and More Proud. You write "How did your messenger come to abolish this tradition?

Whatever is extra quranic in terms of religion or deen is tradition. Quran says

"And when it is said to them, Follow what Allah has revealed, they say: Nay! we follow what we found our fathers upon. What! and though their fathers had no sense at all, nor did they follow the right way." 2/171

And you know that Quran was introduced by the Messenger. He is not 'my' messenger. He is messenger of God.

You ask many questions "RW please tell where is Sunnah documented?
Where are its origins? Are muslims obliged to follow Sunnah? Was Moh able to abolish this tradition?

Thanks for asking. Sunnah is again extra quranic, not required and not documented. Muhammads duty was not to see that traditions abolished. His was to deliver the message. Followers of message do not follow the tradition.

You ask "If they are not obliged why do they follow sunnah?

They will be questioned for that.

"If they dont have to follow sunnah whose life have they to emulate in Mohs place?

They are required to follow Quran and to use their head.

"In case Quran is not clear on something how is it arbitrated?

If something is not here in Quran, it should not be misunderstood as 'not clear'. Quran gives only what is required.

"Just to make your life easy the last questions answer is within a sura, verse."

Sorry I couldn't find your point. Anyway I answered your not not less than 9 questions.

PS. I used to argue with my Ahmadi friends that Mr.Mirza should try to abolish Tradition if he was Mehdi and Messiah. How could he, he owed his claims to tradition.
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Truth alway Plays
written by Naseer AHmad Bhat , September 23, 2012
Those with a superficial knowledge should restrain themselves from abusing Muslims and Islam. The unbelievers and their brethren have always been hunching since the inception of Islam to bring disgrace to Muslims and Islam and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). Histroy is witness to the fact that they have never succeded and will never succeed. Such unbelievers died a disgracful death and in a disgracefull manner.

Whosoever ever tries to abuse Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and the holy quarn will become misearble and die a nuiance death.They cannot bring disgrace to Islam and the seal of Prophet (PBUH) but they disgrace themselves by indulging in such acts and they surely will rest in hell for ever. Besides they will die a miserable death. A death that will be lesson to others.

Their indulgence in such acts show how much they fear of muslims and islam and howmuch they hate Islam. Islam is the religion of Allah (GOD) and such nefarious people will be severely dealt by the supereme power (Allah)..... But Allah given them chances to
be on right path..... and if anybody reluctantly continiue to abuse his messenger (PBUH) His wreth will fall upon them without warning....

One does not fall ill immediately after eating rotten food.
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Nasser … we do not fear Islam … we fear the Muslims killers who like to kill us for bringing the truth to you ignorant Muslim
written by fineliving56 , September 24, 2012
It is You who will never … I repeat … never will succeed in silencing the truth from coming out … the real truth about your Muhammad ….

Muhammad ….. the mass murderer …the rapist … the thief … the pedophile … the womanizer … the liar … the bully …. the ignorant

there a lot more of the same wonderful attributes

Feel free to disprove what I called Muhammad …. all, came right from your Quran/hadeeth/Sira … do not run and not show up again … go ahead and try to disprove …Muslims Nasser !!!

Intimidation WILL NOT WORK … your threats will not work …

it is your ignorance of Quran that pushes you to write your post …

It is over …. the cat is out of the bag .

ex Muslimah who is sick of you and your Muhammad the child lover
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Nasser
written by fineliving56 , September 24, 2012
typical Muslim man

Ignorant, Blind and threating

What else is new?!




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@ Naseer AHmad Bhat
written by This is Rami Rustom , September 24, 2012
What about me? Am I going to hell? Why or why not?

I wrote these articles:

_Is Allah Real?_: http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...-real.html

_Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims_: http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...slims.html

_Why Most Ex-Muslims Don’t Go Public_: http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...ublic.html
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fineliving
written by abc , September 24, 2012
Your barking doesn't impress anyone
Your infantile points have been around for centuries and have been refuted!
Your ignorance prevents you from understanding

See no threats or intimidation
Just facts
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Abc
written by fineliving56 , September 24, 2012
you and your Muslim brothers have NOT refuteD one single thing, posters here have stated

You are deluding your self by saying you have refuted all the charges … do not pat your self on the back !

Go and have a read of all the THREATS Muslims like you have posted to an article under, writer Allen West have written, criticizing Islam in Faithfreedom.org

Each and one of them of the threats is disgusting to say the least …

That is Islam and they are all Muslims …

BTW … it is only going to get worse [ criticism of Islam ] as people in the West and East wake up and smell the stench of Islam …. just get use to it …it will be a lot easer as time passes

What about the new Fatwas declared by Muslims to kill the Movie maker about Muhammad.

that … IS Just facts …ABC
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A mistake
written by fineliving56 , September 24, 2012
The Article is about Eric Allen … not Allen West

The Article is titled '' threats by the religion of peace ''

please … tell what you think ABC

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written by Reed Wilson , September 24, 2012
fineliving. You write "That is Islam and they are all Muslims ". I would say neither.

What is Islam and who is muslim. Following God is Islam and the follower is muslim. How you say they are following God there?
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Fineliving
written by abc , September 24, 2012
You really cannot be that *******?? Surely!
Sure some people have written threats to Eric Allen bell on ffi.
They are infantile.
What about the threats and name calling to the Muslims? Oh you forget that! How hyppocritical! So take your selfrightous outrage else where. Decieving ex Muslim.

Fatwa? By a railways minister in Pakistan, are you serious???
You ignorance is starting to show!
Who follows the railways minister as a spiritual guide??
Is he even qualified to give such a thing?
I suggest to look up the al azhar website to see what the ruling is!
But you know this already but you play ignorant.

Allen west recently called for the nuclear destruction of Mecca and medina!
What are your thoughts if any?
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ABC
written by fineliving56 , September 24, 2012
Seriously … Abc ?

Are you going to sit their and trivialize the death threats that was posted to Eric of killing ,cutting , burring, cursing, as a childish manner … How you put it ? …infantile ? …wow ?! …

If The Muslims have been threatened … which I have rarely seen …. not here … not in JW … not in ffi … in fact when a non Muslim poster does that, his or her post will be deleted ,instantly, after it is posted and I have seen it few times.

BTW … I do not condone such threats either way have you forgotten who you are addressing … it is inhumane to say the least .
on the other hand, you called it … infantile … amazing ?

Kindly show me a death threat that have been posted by the non Muslims against Muslims, here …abc ?!

I do not condone nuclear destruction of any kind … in fact, I call for the distructin of all weapons in the whole world , ALL … that destroy living things …

Now, buildings I have no problem with destroying them if they are, places where people get together to entice violence against other people .

Have you forgotten when, Your Muslims brothers had no problem destroying a huge historical Budda statue in India years back ? … why do you think Muslims had no respect for other peoples religious buildings ..huh ? … why do you think Muslims deserve respect, by respecting their Kaaba … I say not ?

Muslims do not, and did not, EARN respect from the world, let alone respect their Kaaba !… and they are only reaping what they sow .

You most not have a TV to see the masses of thousands of Muslims in 23 Muslims countries chanting '' death to America'' for the movie '' innocence of Muslims'' while they know American government or people had nothing to do with the film … it was an "' Egyptian Christian emigrant who lived with the Muslims all his life …

talk about ignorance !!!



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Fineliving
written by abc , September 25, 2012
Here we go again.
Yes threats over the Internet are indeed infantile!
Read that statement a few times and it may click in your head!

Either you cannot read or are blind. The next time I see it I will point it out.
Besides you said it yourself the moderators delete offensive text by non Muslims and keep the ones by infantile Muslims to try and prove a point.

Facts are not your strong point are they. The buddha statues were in Afghanistan.

Please tell me you don't believe the protests are JUST about a film.
Just because the jw, ffi have not told you. Even fox news is saying its not about the films entirely. A person cannot be that naieve. I don't know whether to laugh at you or cry for you!
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Abc
written by fineliving56 , September 25, 2012
Threats on the internet have turned to real killings … or do you live in a tunnel ?

Yes, I know the film was not the cause interlay for the killer demonstrations … the plan to kill and burn and distraction was way … but that is what your Muslims brothers Liars have claimed and I am going by what the Muslim liars have said …

You do not need or have to laugh or cry … never mind about me … it is you who should hide your self in embarrassment over what Muslims, are doing … not only that, you defend, obfuscate and brush off inhumane treatment by Muslims .
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@ abc - Yes threats over the Internet are indeed infantile!
written by This is Rami Rustom , September 25, 2012
Infants don't make threats. They especially don't do anything over the internet.

So how is it that "threats over the internet" are infantile?
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ABC is the boyfriend of MALEM & MALEM is the boyfriend of ABC . A Terrific couple
written by kafir-infidel , September 25, 2012
Both ABC & MALEM are ISLAMISTS , MISTS !!! JIHADISTS , gists .
Both are real fakes
ABC & MALEM are merry making gays of ISLAM,
ABC & MALEM are freed from burial and grave torture and torment
ABC & MALEM are free from fear and terror of ISLAM !!!!
ALLAH and his boss MO has sealed the hearts of ABC and MALEM !!!
ALLAHU AKBAR ( ALLAH is greater than other GODS !!!)
ALLAH is pacified because MO got everything that he wanted .
MO was/is made the boss of ALLAH.
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@ kafir-infidel
written by This is Rami Rustom , September 26, 2012
I just saw Malem condemn the idea of creating blasphemy laws (which would criminalize criticism of Islam).

How is that Islamist?
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Kafir infidel
written by abc , September 26, 2012
Thats the best you got!
It's laughable!

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