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The Islamic Kingdom

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Islam is a brutal, tribal warrior cult that glorifies jihad and martyrdom. The Quran is replete with acts of murder, terrorism, and genocide.

Let us look at some explicit provisions of the Quran:

* Islam is misogynist. Men are superior to women. Women are to obey men and are to be beaten when they disobey or misbehave.

* Islam is racist. The Quran stipulates that the Arabs are superior to all others, and it clearly condones slavery. It explicitly stipulates discriminatory laws for slaves.

* Islam denounces other belief systems and marginally recognizes the validity of only two religions: Judaism and Christianity.

* Islam is violent. It not only condones jihad; it recommends it and promises great reward for the jihadist.

* Islam is already splintered in a number of major sects and innumerable numbers of secondary sects that harbor huge disagreement with and animosity toward one another as well as toward all infidels.

Nearly a billion and a half of the human species — a species supposedly endowed with the greatest of intelligence — swallows Islam whole and even dispenses it to others by any and all means possible. It is one of those great mysteries of life that defies any and all logic.

Many animals come with already in-place programs that automatically run much of their lives. Birds’ migration, mating courtship, and thousands of other complex behaviors are instances of this type of specific programming. A catchword for this type of behavior is "instinct". As a general rule, the higher the organism, the less is its rigid pre-programs and the greater its latitude to exercise choices.

As humans, our two legs move us along, but it is our minds that tell us which path to take in life and what to do. As the mind commands, so goes the person. Yet for humans, the mind does not arrive in this world with a set program of instructions. Contrary to many beliefs, we are born neither as demons nor as angels. Within each one of us is the potential for a demon or an angel.  Many evolve into a mix of the two, a few fortunate mature into truly angelic people, and some become personifications of evil. It is the mind’s programming that plays the critical role in making us what we are.

Every one of us arrives in this world as a helpless infant at the mercy of others — not only to be fed, cleaned and protected, but also to be informed about the bewildering life we face. Others can teach the new arrivals only what they know and believe. And much of what adults know and believe is a hodgepodge, handed down to them by the adults that raised them.

Islam, from its inception, discovered the crucial secret of getting to the young mind early by adhering to the dictum: instruction in early childhood is akin to carving in the rock. In the same vein goes the Jesuit saying, “Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man,” derived from the philosophy and theology of Saint Augustine. The immense importance of getting early to the young mind is also emphasized by non-religious doctrines as diverse as the Freudian psychoanalytic theory and Watsonian Behaviorist psychology.

It is thus that millions of infants annually end up in the care of people who themselves are imbued with a pathological Islamist belief system rooted in the mores and practices of the primitives of the Arabian Peninsula from 1,300 years ago.

From very early on, the young child is indoctrinated in the belief that there is an omniscient, ever-vigilant Allah who observes everything a person does and even everything he contemplates. Nothing whatsoever escapes this omnipresent, all-knowing being. Allah keeps tabs, and he bestows incredibly desirous rewards if one behaves as told, while dispensing unimaginably tortuous punishment if one strays.

The very young human faces, beginning with the minute he can make some sense of the world, a bewildering array of mysteries, challenges, and enticements. There are questions at every step — fears and hopes entangled with the need to survive and possibly thrive.

Who am I? What is this world all about? What’s the purpose? What am I supposed to do and how? Where am I headed? People die. Where do they go? And on and on and on. The information booths available to a man in the fairground of life provide him with answers that may help relieve his innate existentialistic anxiety. And it is here that religion plays its critical role and holds great appeal. Religion provides a surefire answer to those who are willing to take it on faith.

And Islam is a powerful magnet for the masses who are unable to deal with the uncertainties of life and death on their own. It is from this population, many already thoroughly indoctrinated from birth that the majority of die-hard jihadists emerge.

It is the bargain the jihadist makes. He surrenders totally to the religion of surrender in exchange for blanket security. Islam gives him all the answers he really seeks for dealing with this world and promises him a most lush and eternal paradise of Allah once he leaves it.  And leaving this world in perfect submission as the foot soldier of the paradise’s creator gives the faithful unimaginably glorious sensual eternal reward in his next life. It’s a bargain that some buy in whole, while some buy it in part, and some refuse and seek other means of dealing with their questions and the unrelenting existentialistic anxiety.

It is foolish to underestimate the dangers of Islamic mental manipulation. All Muslims share an Islamic cognitive repertoire, with considerable variations. As is the case with any population distribution, a great majority forms the middle while minorities populate the extremes. Islamic apologists and many Muslims point to the middle as true Islam, thereby disassociating themselves from the two extremes and may even denounce them as not being Muslims.

At one extreme are the Nominal Muslims. These Muslims adhere loosely to the Islamic precepts and practices, ordinarily pose little threat to non-Muslims, and may even reject some aspects of the religion.

At the other extreme are the die-hard fanatical jihadists, who present severe threats not only to non-Muslims, but also to the so-called Moderate Muslims as well as the Nominal Muslims.

To this extremist group, nothing is out of bounds in furthering the cause. Dissimulation, deception, and all manner of violence are their Quran-sanctioned tools. As part of their scheme, this malevolent group has adopted highly effective strategies for subjugating the West, its people, and its culture. In keeping with their supremacist racist cult, their god, Allah, is proclaimed as the greatest god — Allah-o-Akbar. Yet, in English, one hears only the deceptive translation — God is great, and not the actual Arabic: Allah is the greatest.

History documents the pivotal role of small groups, even individuals, in precipitating monumentally important events. It is the energized militant minority that often sparks movements and directs the course of human events. And it is the minority of Muslims, militant and highly motivated soldiers of Allah, who are on the march to defeat the non-believing by any and all means and establish "Caliphatism", the Islamic Kingdom.

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Meaning of Allah hu Akbar
written by Dick Nowak , June 18, 2012
On Pakistan satellite channels when there is the azaan. Allah hu Akbar is translated to urdu as "Allah hay sub say burrah". The"rr" in "Burrah " are pronounced as half way between r and l. in the same way as the l is pronounced in "old". This urdu can be translated into English as "Allah is the biggest".
educate yourself first
written by malem , June 18, 2012
The article says to look at explicit provisions but then just regurgitates the same old fales generalizations. The author is obviously educationaly challenged, but of course that doesnt stop Hate sites presenting it as fact
yeah yeah
written by saladiin , June 18, 2012
This site needs to have more imagination. It must stand out from other hate sites.
The authors have been posting the same nonsense over and over again.
I reckon at least 5 red necks have been fooled into believing this bull.
I am willing to help in this regard. As they say, you need a thief to catch a thief.

@ Malem
written by Brown Superman , June 18, 2012
What are you doing at Hate sites instead of being with religious psychoes at the Love sites.

A fact is a fact, wherever it is presented, even though not palatable to some here.
I agree with each and every word in this Article ... thank you Mr. Amani
written by fineliving56 , June 19, 2012
It is excellent ... it describe what is Islam and what the effect of Islam on the minds of Muslims.

To Muslim readers ...

Please... kindly point out the lies that YOU say it is in this Article and the Mistakes you are apparently see and we do not see ...just Saying that the Article is all just lies is not nearly convincing at all ...so ...

get to work Muslims ... point out each point with enough backing from Quran or Hadeeth .. I mean, you have to admit, just saying all lies with no proof is just plain stupid !!!

I even will go ahead and start you on one ... for example ... the Article charges says '' Islam is brutal " ...

Please Proof to us Islam is NOT brutal with proofs from Quran and Hadeeth and Sirah al Rasool ! ... for those who do not believe in hadeeth and Sirah [ for we all know how split all of you Muslims are on everything about Islam ... just stick with what you believe in and we go on from there .

please ...try to be short and clear ... thanks a bunch

written by Guy Macher , June 19, 2012
To the barbarians who claim the site is full of bullshit: Supply proof of your contention. Show us the peaceful Koran. We understand the use and theory of abrogation, so don't try to fool us.
Malem, ABC, Saif...
written by Amboyduke , June 19, 2012
Guy Macher is, as usual, right as can be!

Show us, you 3 "whiz-bangs", the "peaceful koran. Show us. Prove it to us infidel idiots.
We are all waiting patiently to see what you 3 boxos have to say.
Convert us to your way.
This same question has been asked on this site as well as many others, and all we ever get is the same old shit...dodging and weaving, saying that the site is a hate site, it does't reflect "the true islam"...the usual garbage...

How about salladin, oh great islamic "whiz-bang thinker of great thoughts"?
Do, please, help little old stupid me, and any others on here who need help in buying into your bullshit...help me see the light...!!

I await, like I always do, for your vapid, non-existant response.
You "bros" are so pathetic you make us sick.



Fools travel in groups
written by malem , June 19, 2012
not sure how to proof someone wrong, but you can prove them wrong. in this case only opinions were expressed and they are they same tired dribble that is posted over and over and over ad naseum
written by fineliving56 , June 19, 2012
You are sidetracking ... now

I asked one of you, Muslims to proof '' Islam is not brutal ''

is that too hard for you ? ... wow ... it is so embarrassing for you !?? !

You can not come up with one thing to proof Islam is not brutal ?????
written by malem , June 19, 2012
you stated you were a muslim, then you said you are not, then you said you hide it from your family, but you tell all the anonymouse people on this blog? do you expect people to believe this?
written by abc , June 19, 2012
I will be your huckleberry! Let's see If I'm still banned?
No 1
written by abc , June 19, 2012
"O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, in deeds some suspicions are sins. And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to EAT THE FLESH OF HIS DEAD BROTHER? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allah, verily, Allah is The One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful" (Qur'an 49: 12)

This verse resembles a person who backbites to one who eats the flesh of his dead brother.

How does Islam define Backbiting?

Talking about your brother in a manner which he does not like.
Puke 2
written by abc , June 19, 2012
"O ye who believe! Cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or by injury, - like those who spend their substance to be seen of men, but believe neither in Allah nor in the Last Day. They are in parable like a hard, barren rock, on which is a little soil: on it falls heavy rain, which leaves it (Just) a bare stone. They will be able to do nothing with aught they have earned. And Allah guideth not those who reject faith." (Suraat Al Baqraa - The Cow- 2: 264)

The Rock Example

The 'rock' example is brilliant. Generally, it doesn't matter how much water you pour over a rock. It doesn’t matter how much soil you spread over it for it will never plant. Similarly, it doesn't matter if you were to feed a nation of poor people if it was followed with injury or reminders of generosity for it will never prosper.
No 3 sonshine
written by abc , June 19, 2012
"When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant WHEN he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way." (2:186)

All you have to do is just ask!!!
Malam ... No real answer ...huh .. I thought so !!!
written by fineliving56 , June 19, 2012
You are sidetracking again ... funny Muslim man ...

I do not expect some Muslim man like you to do anything ... you are enable to defend Islam so you duck and turn around and accuse others of lying ...

I have wrote about my leaving life and all what I wrote about my life is the truth ... I do not care what you think Muslim man ...

You can not proof Islam is peaceful and not brutal!!?? ... WOW ... I do not blame you ... It can not be dune.

I got some more for you!
written by abc , June 19, 2012
Honor each other: "O mankind! We created you from a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know and honor each other (not that you should despise one another). Indeed the most honorable of you in the sight of God is the most righteous." Chapter 49, Verse 13
God loves the kind: "God does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact God loves the equitable." Chapter 60, Verse 8
About Jesus: "And in their [the earlier prophets] footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel, therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him, a guidance and an admonition to those who fear God." Chapter 5, Verse 46
Good and evil: "Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein, and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden." Chapter 4, Verse 85
Reaction to evil: "Repel (evil) with what is better. Then will he, between whom and thee was hatred, become as it were thy friend and intimate. And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint." Chapter 41, Verse 34 and 35
Do good: "Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden (paradise) whose width is that of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous - Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity or in adversity, who restrain (their) anger and pardon (all) men - for God loves those who do good." Chapter 3, Verses 133-134
Reward for righteousness: "Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has faith, verily, to them will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure, and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions."  Chapter 16, Verse 97
Acts of compassion: "And what will explain to you what the steep path is? It is the freeing of a (slave) from bondage; or the giving of food in a day of famine to an orphan relative, or to a needy in distress. Then will he be of those who believe, enjoin fortitude and encourage kindness and compassion." Chapter 90, Verses 12-17
Take this fool!
written by abc , June 19, 2012
Whosoever chooses to follow guidance, follows it for his own good; whosoever goes astray, goes astray to his own loss.’
(al-Isra’ 17: 15)

‘Whosoever holds fast to God, he has been guided onto the Straight Path.’
(al-Imran 3: 101)

‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’
(al-Furqan 25: 63)

Just like the beat the verses go on and on!
Sort your life out before your time is due! You seem like a smart guy!
written by abc , June 19, 2012
Throwing stones whilst living in a glass house.
Islam expert and scholar of shariah!
Thanks for the comedy!
who is talking here
written by malem , June 19, 2012
@ Malem
written by Proud Infidel , June 19, 2012
"do you expect people to believe this?"

I'd take the word of a horses ass before I'd take the word of the likes of you and your barbaric islamic ways.
written by vbv , June 19, 2012
You cited from Quran 17:15 and 3:101. Take look around your muslim countries. They are the biggest losers. They are ruled by mad mullah/ayatollahs and despotic autocrats. They do not trust each other. Take the arabs , for instance , they are divided into atleast a dozen countries based on their tribal ancestry , like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Yemen, Oman, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Jordan, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco,etc ,though they all speak arabic and its variants. And none of them have an exemplary record of human rights. They are arrogant because they are arabs and their "prophet" was an arab, so they put themselves at the top of islamic heirarchy. They are ruled by despots, autocrats or mullahs. The other day I was watching the Youtube where a Pakistani journalist was criticising the socalled "muslim ummah". He said that no pakistani or south asian muslim can hope to get citizenship in any of the arab countries even if he has worked there for 30 years , nor can he start any business in his own name nor buy any property in his own name nor marry an arab girl or even open a bank account without the oversight and control of a local arab. While these can all be done in the west , yet these ungrateful muslim nuts show their ingratitude by wanting to impose the barbaeric 'sharia' in the west , while they actually left their own countries to escape from the very same 'sharia'.
What about piracy by Somalians, apartheid in Sudan which isa now divided , or the misery in Afghanistan, the turmoil in Pakistan or any other islamic country ??? I think these are all the gifts of 'Allah' , the imaginery spook of Muhamad the highway robber, child molester, womaniser, murderer..... So much for Allah and your citations which actually shows the "straight path" to misery, turmoil and discontent.
written by balam , June 19, 2012
Please stop BORING the Intelligent readers from your comic book called quran.It is like Panjabi TAPPAS.The first line says:WHITE COCKERAL IS ON THE WALL.The second one follows:COME HERE DARLING,THE YOUNG MAN IS CRAZY FOR YOU. Quran represents the Incoherent outburst of a MADE MAN.
Just for you balam
written by abc , June 19, 2012

‘It is He who accepts repentance from His servants, and pardons bad deeds, and knows all that you do. And He answers those who have faith and do righteous deeds, and gives them- out of His bounty- far more.’
(al-Shura 42: 25-6)

‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’
(al-Furqan 25: 63)

‘Turn not your cheek away from people in scorn and pride, and walk not on earth haughtily; for God does not love anyone who acts proudly and boastfully. Be modest in your bearing and lower your voice; for the ugliest sound is the donkey’s braying.’
(Luqman 31: 18-19)

[Successful are the believers]…who are faithful to their trusts and to their promises.’
(al-Mu’minun 23:8)

‘And be true to every promise- for, verily you willl be called to account for every promise which you have made.’
To Muslim ….. who pick and choose
written by fineliving56 , June 19, 2012
Yes, I thought so …

of course …. you are going to display some of the only…. 25 ….lousy … messily …. good parts of Quran and you are going to put them out there proud [ strange !!! a picture of a Gorilla banging his chest proud of the latest battle with another, comes to mind and makes me giggle ]

When you bring samples of these so called humane Ayas of quran … you do not mention any excuses that you ****like to dish out to us for the brutal parts in Quran ***

Like …

why it came …i? ..

In which context ?

Which aya came before and after it ?

How it came after or before an event happen in Muhammad time and his Battle with Kuffar ?

You know the lies ? … the USUALS ….. YOU Muslims like to come up with to JUSTIFY QURAN'S MOST LETHAL BRUTAL and INHUMANE AYAS …. which makes MOST OF QURAN … I REPEAT … MOST OF QURAN

It is realy sad how Bias and blind you all are …

Am I supposed to be impressed of what you have picked and chose from your filthy Quran … Muslim?

I bit you think …it erases the part of PURE EVEIL that makes most of Quran … I reapeat … most of Quran .

inuman Parts like ….

beat wives until they obey ….

kill with no mercy who leave Islam ….

Torture Kufars with no mercy ….

hunt them and corner them where they live and torture them and kill them and show them no mercy …

cut thieve's hand and feet in opposite sides [ that in the famous oxymoron weird way of islamic mind of showing mercy ….…haa…haa ]

War against Kufars and it is order as every Muslim's job .

War bounty is Halal … Muslims are allowed to take what they want !!! … it is not called theft IN ISLAM … WHICH IT IS ABSOLUTELY * IS * A THEFT OF A MAGER KIND … SHAME ON QURAN/ MUHAMMAD

Enslave people [who were free] and you Muslims caught in war and you are free to use them in sex and service which no care who they were and how they lived .

100 lashes for women adulteress women and keep them as prisoners in there rooms until their death comes and take them .[ only devout Muslims fallow Hadeeth not Quran and they stone women to painful death]

You know and we all know there are many more … BRUTAL Ayas in Quran and far out weighs the so called holly parts .

If number of repeated certain words is any indication of the Brutality of Quran :

The ward WAR was repeated 416 times …… KILL, 41 times … CUT, 53 …. FIRE , 259 …

BTW …. the Brutality of Allah against all non Muslim it is almost , in every other word in the brutal Quran….

why ?
written by fineliving56 , June 19, 2012
Why Muslim women are only mentioned …. lousy … measly >>> 72 times … in comparison to number of men being discussed >>>> 868 …..

Why is it this much lopsided ? ….

868 ….to …. 72 … that is another proof that QURAN WAS WRITTEN BY MEN AND FOR MEN … to satisfy every wimp and every sick wants …

That is why I became an ex Muslimah …. Quran and hadeeth is cruel, unfair, condescending, hateful and plain discriminative against women …

The humiliation scraps that Muslims like to brag about that Quran supposedly give to women is rejected REJECTED I throw…. it like I through garbage …

Like … women have no obligation to [b NERSE HER OWN BABY …. hahaha … why do I need this garbige …I want to nurse my child …all women want to nurse her child … only a man who do not know how a women feels, say such laughable thing … he thinks he is giving a good thing to women …. hahaha

like … women have no obligation to spend their money …. hahaha … why ? …I do not need this … I want to spend my money to help my family …. beside that is another way to control women , we all know money is power and women have power when they shear their money in her house hold and Islam do not want that … Islam want women to be in need at all times.. to have the husband has the power to control her.

Like … The Muslim man has to ask his wife WHEN HE DISIDE TO MARRY another women … hahaha …. this scrap is absolutely the most condescending,and humiliating piece of garbage Islam gave women … I just laugh to this kind of outrage …

Instead of this nonsense Islam supposeldy helping women with …this is what Islam should give women and it will count as good help to women .

give me my full inheritance as equal as my brother … now that's counts !!

do not let my husband have the permission to marry another .. he wants out.. divorce e is sufficient …now that's counts !!!.

Do not give perrmission for my husband to BEAT ME WHEN HE THINKS I am not obeying kind …. thats count !!!

Do have equality in testimonies in courts … 1 women to 1 man like it is supposed to be … now that will count for sure .

Now Isn't true … you!! … Muslim liars cannot go around this unfair and barbaric Islamic laws about women … all you do is try to excuse them and want the world to accept them … How hypocritical of you … Muslims !!!???

written by abc , June 20, 2012
"Take the arabs , for instance , they are divided into atleast a dozen countries based on their tribal ancestry , like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Yemen, Oman, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Jordan, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco,etc ,though they all speak arabic and its variants"
There was a time when all of the above were a single entity!
I've seen the you tube video or a version of it and agree with him!
Empires do not last forever. Nobody is trying to turn the west into an Islamic state.
You have to stop reading uneducated writings from b'at yeor.
Muslims will only find unity under the khilafa! Right now you are witnessing it's birth pangs!
Nice Article!
written by Gnostic , June 20, 2012
Most muslims are muslims because they were indoctrinated during their youth and this is the main reason while there are still so many people believing in islam.

Bookprinting was forbidden for centuries in the islamic world with the result that there was no alternative thinking at all and all muslims were indoctrinated during friday prayers. This works even today as most muslims still dont have any access to proper education, books or newspapers unbiased and without censorship.

In contrast, in China there were the 3 Great teaching from Buddha, Lao Tse and Confuicius, and even Islam, Christianity and Manichaeism were tolerated.

In Europe, christianity dominated and it took hundreds of years until modern thinkers like Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Feuerbach appeard.

The islamic world still did not have such great thinkers and I am afraid it could take hundreds of years until these poor people learn to think.
written by malem , June 20, 2012
I figured that was where most of your knowledge and wisdome came from, is it an Arabian horse?
For Pro Islam Bandwagon
written by Vineet , June 20, 2012
I had read an intersting comment from someone on the internet about Muslims that they are an oppressive majority and turbulent minority.

I liked it and read it a couple of times more and found to be so true. Wherever Muslims are in dominance - no other religion / community can survive. If you want examples - look at the decline of minority (read Hindus) ratio in Pakistan and Bangladesh at the time of their inception and now. Further look at the decline in Hindu ratio even in Indian state of Kashmir.

Converse it with India (where Hindus are the majority) the ratio of minorities - Muslims and christians increased.

Wherever they are in minority they need special laws for themselves and it is our badluck in India that governments over the years thanks to Congress/Communist mindset have followed policy of minority appeasement to the hilt.

Islam is not a religion of peace but piece so no point in showing the "good" verses from Quran because I guess all the good ones have been mentioned on the site (since there are so few which are good).

Hope Muslims understand this and make their relationship with their god as a matter of individual choice (as in Hindus) rather than the aggressive community formula as practiced by Islam.

World will be a much better place without them
The Problem with your response...Pt.1
written by Amboyduke , June 20, 2012
First of all, thanks for a reasonable, coherent effort to answer my question.
I was surprised.
The problem I have with your answer is this:
You site passages that reflect the way muslims are to treat other muslims.
That in itself is reasonable enough...BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM(S)...

Our concerns on here lie in the way the koran instructs muslims to treat people who are NON muslims.

In any other mainstream contemporary religion you have those same admonitions
instructing the faithful to treat not only their fellow believers with kindness and forgiveness, etc...but that same council is extended to any other group of people
as well, whether they believe in that same faith or not.

No other contemporary religion instructs, condones, encourages killing of those who do not want to join up.
Islam is the only one that does that. The only one.
In the distant past there have been mainstream religions that would often come close to those same acts of violence against unbelievers, but not one sanctions it in modern times.

All of your quotes, as far as I can tell, are instructions on how muslims should treat other muslims. They don't apply to outsiders.

And when we see all of the violent behaviour displayed all over the world done in the name of your beloved islam, and we do not see one single muslim group ANYWHERE actually doing anything whatsoever about these actions, islams credibility as anything other than bogus.
Not to mention muslims killing muslims.

The parable of the rock seems to be directed to the treatment of non believers.
But it should be up to any one who is a free moral agent to decide whether to believe something or not, and if they chose not to believe it, they should have that right and not be threatened with death, such as done in islam.
If someone leaves islam they are targeted for death.
You'll NEVER win anyone with a sane mind to sign up for such doctrine.
This one has be really baffled:

‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’
(al-Furqan 25: 63)

Do you not see that islam just doesn't follow this?
How do they display their "behaving gently", and with "humility"?
And the "words of peace to those that quarrel with them"?
Can you not see how absurdly laughable this is when absolutely none of it is displayed by islam world wide?

The Buddhists are probably the best example of this.

written by Amboyduke , June 20, 2012
The credibilty of any faith is reflected in it's actions. And islam's actions will never win over anyone who is a rational, reasoning human being.

This is another one that baffles me:

"God loves the kind: "God does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact God loves the equitable." Chapter 60, Verse 8"

On the surface this seems one of the more reasonable admonitions...
I am admittedly no islamic scholar, but I do know that all of the "peaceful" parts of the koran are in the first half, and all the crazy, nasty stuff happens in the second half, and, according to mohammad, the second half supercedes the first part.
So I'm willing to bet this quotation is from the first part...?

The fact that the koran seems to be divided that way also makes it a perfect manual for deception.
i.e. a "muslim" can quote the earlier parts to try and show individuals that islam is all lovey-dovey, kindness and forgiveness, then turn around and go to the second half and use that part to do all the violence on behave of the "religion" and claim that is mohammad's command to wage jihad...truly a manual written by a schizophrenic. {sic}
Doctor Jekyll/Mohammad Hyde sort of thing.

People for the most part just don't buy into islam, and the resistance seems to be growing. Time will tell.

I will say I applaud your response to my initial post. I am tired and I might have missed some points but never forget, any faith's credibility is ALWAYS reflected in it's fruits....and God knows, islam produces very bad fruit.
Do you think it will ever change?

written by Amboyduke , June 20, 2012
Good post...
written by vbv , June 20, 2012
"Muslims will only find unity under the khilafa". And who will be the caliph or the lord of this "khilafa" ? An arab despot , ofcourse. You cannot hope a nonarab to be the lord of this socalled "khilafa" , never a pakistani, indian, indonesian, malaysian,or even a nigerian . It will be a madcap from among the arabs who will pontificate with his unintelligible ditherings . That is why all muslims around the world bow down in abject surender and humiliation to the black stone housed in the Kaaba; it is symbolic of arab supremacism, while these bedouins are actually morons ,good for nothing.
written by vbv , June 20, 2012
Talking of "khilafa" ,will it include the shias, the ahmedias, the bohra community, the deobandis, bareilivis, sufis,etc .. or just the wahabis of saudi arabia ???Ofcourse the nonarab islamic denominations will be dismissed as "kuffars" and dealt with harshly to conform to the wahabis/ muslim brotherhood kind of islam. There is no unity amongst muslims and there will never be one at all. It is a mad dog eat dog world: they will bomb each other out of existence to prove that each one is superior and purer than the rest. Unity amongst muslims is a mirage that will just be only an illusion that can never be achieved.
written by malem , June 20, 2012
Youve pointed to one of the biggest problems in your post. That is the dissemination of spurious information among the internet. In turn simpletons with limited education combined with hate and fear of the unknown accept this so-called information as fact. Believing what you read on some random website is a fools folly as you can also read the insane ramblings claiming the jet engine moisture trails in the sky are a mass effort to spray the world, or that you can cook popcorn on the back of an iPhone etc… However based on the level of maturity and education of a good portion of this blogs website, I can see why many are following the trail of delusive data presented.
Fw ; For Pro Islam Bandwagon
written by Vineet , June 20, 2012

Thanks. If you or anyone else is interested in reading books on Islam by nationalist historians (rare commodity in India thanks to Congress/Communists/Islamists combine) visit the link below. Hope the moderator of blog will allow links of other sites


Thanks to the cartel mentioned above, most of these books telling truth have been banned or not publicised

written by malem , June 20, 2012
ofcourse anyone who credits sinn fein for influrncing them hsa to be great hahaha sri is a hoax
Malam … the one Muslim who runs away when it gets tough
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
Now, you are drop back to make fun of people and tell them they do not know what they are talking about …. hahaha

You despaired when you were squeezed to tell the truth about your cheating by adding words to Quran a while ago …

but … true to a Muslim …...you puff, …gone … puff, come back but not to explain your self but to make flat jokes …

Malam … you do not have to explain your self … everyone here knows of your deceit .

But unlike the other Muslim around here, you at, least,distance your self from Hadeeth and Shariah …

I do not blame you … they are a black spots on the foreheads of all Muslims ,who believe and DO NOT believe in such inhuman and barbaric law .
You should be ashamed just by association with the believers of Hadeeth, Sharia and Sirah al rasool , … after all you all called MUSLIMS
@ ABC and birth Pangs of Kaliphate
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 20, 2012
"Right now you are witnessing it's birth pangs! "

Be more worried about hunger pangs. Nothing is born out of empty stomach.
No food and famine will make the kaliphate unworable. Stat with Somalia, Chad and Sudan.

Egypt follows in step with a banckrupt govt .
written by Mlem , June 20, 2012
You are comical, you rant and rave and then complain about others who do the same, you call Muslims lia rs but then tell us you supposedly live life everyday lying to people about your faith. I guess the question is, which lia r are we to believe as hypocrisy hangs as a dark shadow.
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
I am sorry … did I hit a nerve !!??

I could tell when you are angry … you start to misspell every other word in your posts ...… even your own name.

Face it, Muslim … your Islam is not fit for animals let alone humen beings .
written by malm , June 20, 2012
They were spelled differently to avoid the post being grabbed. Funny thing is you correcting anyone on spelling hahaha. So heres a question you might beable to answer, how does one have any self respect when they li e each day to their family/friends?
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
Let me ask you the same Question …

How could YOU have self respect to stay a Muslim while your Quran calls for beating women , marry 4 wives ,kill apostates , kill Kufars , cut hands and feet of thieves …???!!!

It looks like you are the one who is a hypocrites … you say, you only Quran Muslim and sharia , but you believe in punishment Quran orders AND Sharia too .

It is BECAUSE I have respect for my self and others, I left Islam … I refuse to set like a zombi and repeat words from the same book that orders my husband to beat me …!!!!

You talk about self respect … you who stack wives like you stack pillows ???!!!
written by malm , June 20, 2012
so you admit you li e, but justify it in your mind, good for you! you say i stack wives, yet they live in seperate houses so that is a li e, maybe you cant stop yourself. then you "claim" the quran says you have to marry 4 women, show me where it says that. i think you will find that is not true as well. also i never said i believe in sharia, actualyy i sadi the opposite, so you are ly ing again? your spelling is better so i doubt this is you posting
Malam … do not weasel out of it
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
I did not say you believe in Sharia .. I said you believe in a book [ Quran ] that orders the same inhuman things that sharia does which you distance your self from …!!!

Can you deny you believe in the same things that sharia orders and allows you to do because you believe in Quran as your guide ? … you know and I know Quran and sharia share manny laws and regulations.

I repeat can you deny it ?

You want to split hairs … go ahead … I am not interested !!!

have to Marry 4 wives or allowed to marry 4 wives … no difference at least to the women … women will share her husband either way …no mater what!!!

You leave the main reason for my question and you write about trivial thing that does not change the out come of it … I am talking about the permission of marring 4 wives !!!! … if you still have any doubt .
Women and Islam 2
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 20, 2012
“The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”
“‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”
Qur’an 4:43
“Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.” [The Qur'an claims women are unclean and polluted - worse than dirt.]
Women and islam 3
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 20, 2012
“The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.’”
Qur’an 33:59
“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”
Qur’an 4:15
“If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”
“When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.’”
Infidel and proud
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
Thank you for providing the evidence that there is absolutely not much deference between Quran's orders and Sharia laws …about women

The only difference I see is the stoning for adulteress that was not shown in Quran and the only reason for ommiting the stoning Ayas is that by the time Muslims wrote the Quran as we read now …they thought that stoning is too barbaric to include it in Quran … the one book that supposed to be all about mercy and tolerance

So much evidence and the blind still blind

Sharia law id drived f
written by fineliving56 , June 20, 2012
sorry … the last line suppose to be erased
Women and Islam 4
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
“The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet’s wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?’”
“From the captives of Hunayn, Allah’s Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another.”
“The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”
“Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman.”
“In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.”
Qur’an 24:31
“Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands…”
Women and Islam 5
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
Qur’an 24:34
“Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”
“The Apostle said, ‘Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa’d.’”
Tabari VIII:62
“Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, ‘Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.’”
“Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.’ So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.’”
Qur’an 24:1
“(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.”
Women and Islam 6
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
Qur’an 24:6
“And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth.”

A few posts are eaten by site bot.
Raping the slaves (ABC and Malem take notice / contradict)and one eyed burqa
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
The best gems are the ones from Quran

Malem and ABC/AKI/whatever wanted to know about raping the salves so here we go Qur’an 24:34:-“Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

Allah forgot the purpose of two eyes i.e. binocular vison so he decides to cover one eye, faulty design of humans methinks. Holdon its just for the poor muslim women not men; Allah is so merciful to women.
Qur’an 33:59
“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”
More examples from the false prophets life
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
Bukhari (72:715) – A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being “greener” than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
Muslim (4:2127) – Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, “He struck me on the chest which caused me pain.”
Abu Dawud (2141) – “Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said : Many women have gone round Muhammad’s family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you.” At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place.
Abu Dawud (2142) – “The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.”
Ishaq 969 – Commands that a married woman be “put in a separate room and beaten lightly” if she “act in a sexual manner toward others.” According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.
written by Truthseeker , June 21, 2012
You notice when you post such things about men marrying four wives and being allowed to beat their women, the muslims here cannot answer.

I would like myself to ask Muslims why, if thei so called god allows men to have up to four wives (Muhammad certainly had many more than that) what do they think of what the BIBLE has to say when it says that a man shall leave his father and MOTHER (not MOTHERS) and be united to his WIFE ( not WIVES) and the TWO (not three, four or five) shall become one flesh.

This was how God always meant it to be. The fact that polygamy does occasionally pop up in the bible is not by the will of God....but only goes to show you that even the prophets were sinners, not perfect men.

Only Jesus was perfect and sinless
written by Truthseeker , June 21, 2012
The bible also tells husbands to LOVE their wives and do not be harsh with them. In other words do not beat them.

Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love [your] wives, and be not bitter against them.

It also tells men to treat older women as mothers, younger women like sisters, not sex toys

1 Timothy 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat [him] as a father; [and] the younger men as brethren;

1 Timothy 5:2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
slow day
written by malm , June 21, 2012
Must be a slow day at the dumbatorium. for the truthseeker, you missed this bible toter...
Numbers 5:12-28
A test for women suspected of adultery: "If any man's wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him...and there is no witness against her since she was not caught in the act...then the man shall bring his wife to the priest...[who] shall make her take an oath, saying, 'If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband's authority, be immune to this water of bitterness'... When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself...[the water] shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be immune and be able to conceive children."

Deuteronomy 22:23-24
A rape victim's rights, Old Testament style: "If there is a young woman, a virgin already engaged to be married, and a man meets her in the town and lies with her, you shall...stone them to death, the young woman because she did not cry for help...and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife." [If the woman is not engaged] "the man who lay with her shall give 50 shekels of silver to the young woman's father, and she shall become his wife."
infidel and more
written by malm , June 21, 2012
There is no sharia in Islam, so any comparison is fools folly. Your so called Quranic posts are half done, none state to treat women bad, none force women into prsotitution.

fineliving, you deserve no response, as i cannot dialogue with lia rs
haters loose
written by abc , June 21, 2012
The haters are howling at the moon tonight. Feeling the bile. It has got to be frustrating to be able to type all your lies and deceptions on the internet and never have the "balls" to say them to a muslim face to face.
Everyone hating but trying their best to stick to the same agenda.
The above comments occur when you let non cultured dipsh*ts loose on scripture which is above their mental paygrade.

“And among His signs is this: that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest and peace of mind in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Certainly, herein indeed are signs for people who reflect.”
[Ar-Rum 30:21]

“Lo! Men who surrender unto Allah, and women who surrender, and men who believe and women who believe, and men who obey and women who obey, and men who speak the truth and women who speak the truth, and men who persevere (in righteousness) and women who persevere, and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their modesty and women who guard (their modesty), and men who remember Allah much and women who remember – Allah hath prepared for them forgiveness and a vast reward.”
[Al-Ahzab 33:35]

“The believers who show the most perfect faith are those who have the best character and the best of you are those who are best to their wives.”

“Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him, and (that ye show) kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age with thee, say not “Fie” unto them nor repulse them, but speak unto them a gracious word. (23) And lower unto them the wing of submission through mercy, and say: My Lord! Have mercy on them both as they did care for me when I was little.”
[Al-Isra 17:23-2

loose brains
written by abc , June 21, 2012
“Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him, and (that ye show) kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age with thee, say not “Fie” unto them nor repulse them, but speak unto them a gracious word. (23) And lower unto them the wing of submission through mercy, and say: My Lord! Have mercy on them both as they did care for me when I was little.”
[Al-Isra 17:23-24]

The Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم continually used to remind his followers of the status of the mother and the obligation of being good to one’s parents. The following narration is a beautiful example of the noble position of the mother;
A man came to the Prophet and said:

“O Messenger of Allah! Who from amongst mankind warrants the best companionship from me?” He replied: “Your mother.” The man asked: “Then who?” So he replied: “Your mother.” The man then asked: “Then who?” So the Prophet replied again: “Your mother.” The man then asked: “Then who?” So he replied: “Then your father.”
[Bukhari, Muslim]

“And We have enjoined upon man concerning his parents – His mother beareth him in weakness upon weakness, and his weaning is in two years – Give thanks unto Me and unto thy parents. Unto Me is the journeying. But if they strive with thee to make thee ascribe unto Me as partner that of which thou hast no knowledge, then obey them not. Consort with them in the world kindly, and follow the path of him who repenteth unto Me. Then unto Me will be your return, and I shall tell you what ye used to do.”
[Luqman 31:14-15]
I think thats enough for one day.
Now run along little haters and contemplate what the above means.

Malam … yes that is right .. run away
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
You can not ecxplain you lies when you added word to Quran to beautify it and dress it up to put it out in better light … yes that is right run away

to confuse the issue of you lying in Quran's words and you call me a liar ???… It is you who is a liar on regular bases to serve his Islam that allows him to keep his HAREM IN TACT .

It is you, who does not deserve to reply to … because you were exposed the liar you are … even the admin caught on it and called you on it and you disappeared to avoid answering .

To Malm AKA Malem/Malman etc.
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
So you agree its only half truth not full.
Therefore its not a lie and there is truth in what I say oh qoran expert..

I bow to you for your truthfulness. My glass is still half full.
I have more of these gems from your muslim world and never said anything about Chistianity so any amount of Bible cursing does not make Islam better. I think your pair of tilths is giving time off to come to this site as did not see you around for a while.
ABC and Malm
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
Who wrote Quran ?
To malm
written by Rationalist , June 21, 2012
Friend, the quotes you provided from the Bible about stoning and adultery issues are followed "only" in Islamic countries & by Muslims. How is that possible?
written by abc , June 21, 2012
I don't agree with nothing you say. Get that straight.
You might not have said anything about Christianity but you buddy in idiocy truth seeker did! So why don't you direct your comment there?
There you telling me what you think.
Like sound of your own voice???
written by abc , June 21, 2012
Wailing like a demented banshee is not helping.
Same shit different day. Change the record!
written by abc , June 21, 2012
ABC and Malm
written by Infidel and More Proud, June 21, 2012
Who wrote Quran ?

Your mama!
Going to be an arse then two can play.
Muslims around here
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
We have …. One Muslim. who cannot explain a way the majority of Quran's most disgusting Ayas ..that Infidel brought about Muslim women's unfair laws in Islam …. so … he comes back with childish remarks … or he posts the supposed good part from Quran which we all know copied from previous religions with nothing knew … nothing !

And the other Muslim … cannot explain him self so he refuse to answer why he added words to Quran which it never said !!

To All …

As we all see … we have only 2 Muslims here … and still these two cannot agree on What is real Islam ? … is it only Quran or Quran and Hadeeth and Sirah included …

That is what is wrong with Muslims … Islam is conflicted within it self … it created conflicted and divided Muslims … it is really sad.

To the divided two Muslims around here …

Why do not you guys go and send some other Muslims to try refute here … you are failing miserably .
admin fun
written by mlam , June 21, 2012
Having fun trying to post! Haha short version of pst was, fineliving will make yet another sob story, infidlproud will take to a horses behind but you all have not proven one point. Besides I don't have a harem fineyliving so again a L I e?
Dont worry about it
written by abc , June 21, 2012
Don't take that banshee fineliving seriously. Of course she lies, no concept of morality from the kaffir. If her brains were Semtex then she wouldn't have enough to blow her nose!

written by malem , June 21, 2012
Now that's funny! Good to end the night with a laugh!
written by Amboyduke , June 21, 2012
written by malm , June 21, 2012

"There is no sharia in Islam, so any comparison is fools folly."

How can this "bro", malm, say an absolutely ridiculous remark such as this???????
All the muslim's talk about in the U.S and Canada, as well as Europe is
"sharia, sharia, sharia"...
Folks, isn't it clear these "bros" are not in touch with any reality of which a normal human being is aware?


malm's "no sharia" comment is indeed funny....and it is a better laugh than the "Semtex" comment...by a country mile....!!!
To ABC et al
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
"I don't agree with nothing you say. Get that straight."

I hope you paid attention in class or did you miss it cause of your 5 a day prayers?

Two negatives make a postive so you dont agree to nothing = agree to everything. HA HA
If this is too much take help from your elders.
Allah (Moh) does not like hairs on womens arms
written by Infidel and More Proud , June 21, 2012
Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 33, Combing the Hair (Kitab Al-Tarajjul)
Number 4153:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin:
When Hind, daughter of Utbah, said: Prophet of Allah, accept my allegiance, he replied; I shall not accept your allegiance till you make a difference to the palms of your hands; for they look like the paws of a beast of prey.
This now applies to all muslim women.
written by melam , June 21, 2012
nfortunately persons like yourself who are ign.norant about the beautiful relgion of Islam constantly make fal.se claims and errors.

I only wish you understood it more in order to discuss it intelligently. However to the point of differing with my brothers it is no different than the differing ways of cathlics/protstants/baptsts, no need to dis.parage each other, rather peacefully exist like the Qur-an says. So you can go on with your h.ate speach, I shall choose the higher road.

Finelivng you can now reply with a fable of your so called strug.gle
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
You have not resized it yet … but you are an apostate … welcome to the club of the sane and sound minds .

Your post to Christians here about their prophet Jesus being a figment of imagination is telling enough …

So please... stop acting and be truthful … if you want to have any credibility .
written by malem , June 21, 2012
I cannot understand your babbling, resize? How about a size 11? Please no whining
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
What… You did not know Jesus was mentioned 111 times in Your Quran … I thought you knew Quran as you know your name …. I guess not ?

I am tlaking about your post to truthseecker about his Prophet …. that he is a figment of his and other Christians imagination ?

Now are you denying you said that to truthseecker… it is right their in black and white ?

What ? … why you are taking about my size … what ? … are you being Nasty and being degrading and talking about my size ...or what ? …

Can you clear what you have said ?
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
the apostate who does not know you are an apostate …

Read my posts to you and Non believer under the article '' Free Aasia …" you would understand ''

As if !!!??? … …
Oh dear
written by abc , June 21, 2012
Sane minds and fineliving in the same sentance is too much!
Any club that you are in is not a club but a sanitarium!

You used the word resized in your own post instead of the word realised.
So malem has just taken a play on your error!
So now you want to explain himself regarding a disparaging remark.
How many corners are there in a circle???
the Muslim … who call him self abc
written by fineliving56 , June 21, 2012
no you are wrong !!

It was realized … not realised … like you said … it is your mistake, this time not mine … haha

I understand he took advantage of my mistake … but he did badly

So … what do you think about your brother Malam being an apostate and denying the existing of Jesus while Quran strives on it by repeating ayas about him endlessly … in fact 111 times ??

He thinks Jesus in imagined ? … do you think the same …read his post to Truthseeker !!
@Truth Seeker
written by balam , June 21, 2012
You have put the question of Mohammad disobeying his pagan god by exceeding the limit of four vry well.If you exceed the speed limit,you are fined for that offence but allah is a dummy god to fool dummy Muslims.My kalima is:THERE IS NO allah but GOD and JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD-THE ONLY SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD.One can love only ONE WOMAN at one time.Other than that is LUST.Muslims are not mono-theist but MONO-PAGAN DEIST because allah is a pre-islamic pagan deity worshipped in ARABIA.
written by malam , June 21, 2012
my shoe is size 11 thus the comment, if your feet are size 11 it was not meant to make fun of the
keep trying
written by malam , June 21, 2012
please keep trying to cause issues between abc and i, it is futile and wont work :) amusing though!
written by abc , June 22, 2012
Let me try to break it down to you. I do not and will not have an issue with another person who calls themselves a Muslim. Even if I am provoked then I will want to walk away.
The other people I divide into two: the rightous Christians, Jews etc etc
The haters- again Christians, Jews etc etc.
I do not have a problem with the rightous half whomever they are.
The haters believe in the mantra "a good Muslim is a dead Muslim"
Now that's where the beef is!
You apostates have made your bed with the haters and you enable eachother.
I have nothing for you. I love knocking your idiocy out of the park.
written by Amboyduke , June 22, 2012
You and malem are without question 2 of the most stupid, ignorant a*****es I have ever encountered in my entire life.

Muslim's hate and kill Christians and Jews on a daily basis, but you have no "beef" with that...!!!

You never address the parts of your koran that instruct muslim's to kill, kill, kill....!
written by abc , June 22, 2012
Of course i have a beef with that!
What about when it's the other way?
What do you call it then??
written by malem , June 22, 2012
no parts instruct to k.ill, they are defnsive postures . I have love for all no matter what religion they be, and never have harmed one in my life, probably saved more than you can imagine, yet you hurl false accusations like a child , that is sad.
@ malem
written by Vineet , June 22, 2012
Honestly, could not get the import of your comment. Though I may not be a genius but do understand english language reasonably well.

If you are saying that my claim of decline of minority population in the 3 places mentioned (Pakistan, Bangaldesh and Indian state of Kashmir) is based on flimsy information presented on the internet, then I am afraid your analysis is much off the mark.

It would be better for the readers of this blog and that for my understanding if you could give pointed answers.

General statements with no end in sight befit bureaucracy.


written by malem , June 22, 2012
when others give pointed answers and questions on topic, i will do the same. good luck with that
Islamic Prophet
written by Yibel , June 23, 2012
Isa, the talking baby who made some clay birds and magically brought them to life, is a Muslim prophet. All the Muslims know about this person is that he was able to speak right after birth. But this talking baby is not the Jesus (Yahshua) of the Bible. In the Bible there is no talking baby. Jesus' mother did not give birth under a palm tree; Isa's mother did.

Isa's name may be mentioned 111 times in the Qur'an - I haven't counted - but nothing that the Biblical Jesus ever said, or did, is written in the Qur'an. The account of the birth of Isa is based on the story of the birth of the Buddha. Therefore, Isa is not Jesus. Jesus is not a Muslim prophet, nor is he mentioned in the Qur'an.
To Malem
written by Archpagan , June 23, 2012
Here is what your filthy book says:

2:193-”Fight against them (unbelievers) until there is no dissent to the religion of Allah.”
3:151-”We will strike terror into the hearts of disbelievers.”

4:89-”"Seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

8:12, 14-”I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks, smite their finger tips…. the punishment of the fire is for the unbelievers.”

8:39-”Fight the unbelievers until opposition is no more and the religion of Allah (all submit to Allah) reigns supreme.”

Do they sound 'Defensive' statements? Islam means Submit. It is not a request. It is a war cry. Where is the context in those verses? Are not those verses valid in every situation and for all time to come? Can you tell before your pack of blood-thirsty jihadis that those verses are not valid for all situatios?

What's the difference between offense and defense? Who is to pass judgment that such and such actions are offensive in nature? Criminal par excellence Muhammad thought that not accepting him as messenger of Allah is sufficient offensive act, and his criminal followers like you carry such conviction. In times of war both sides claim to be defending their rights. That is why standing army of fighters are called 'Defense Force' in every country. If you do not harbour any ill-will for unbelievers, then you are either a non-Muslim or a taqqiya artist.
written by malm , June 23, 2012
Isa is the arabic name for jesus, he is a muslim prophet, believe it accept it move on

Archpagan you slap up the same small sections of prayer everytime expecting something different. Have you no original thoughts!
Malam … wow .. you just contradicted your self and it looks like you got stock
written by fineliving56 , June 23, 2012
You said … Jesus is a figment of Christian imagination ...

You said … Jesus is Isa …..

You said …. Isa is a real prophet of Christians …. and he is a Muslim as all others

Malam …. do you make thing up as you write …. ?

Which is … now ?
written by malm , June 23, 2012
Never contradicted myself, your just getting lost in your daily lying :)
To Malem
written by Archpagan , June 23, 2012
Prayers? What do you mean by prayer? Those are just incitements to violence against us infidels. What do you expect from us in return? Do you have any sense of argument and intellect? Have you ever tried to justify those so-called prayers in this site? I recollect none. If you think those are messages to Muhammad in war situation, what is their relevance in present world. Is not Koran just a historical record of how the criminal mind of Mohammad worked?
Oh … Malam
written by fineliving56 , June 23, 2012
You just got stuck with your lies …the lying line is so short... isn't ?

Everyone here who is reading here *** knows by now your embarrassing predicament you got your self in to*** … No more need to go any further on this …

That is you :

Jesus ---> imagined

Jesus ---> isa

Isa ----> real ---> Quran says so

Lying … and everyone knows it … enough of that
written by malem , June 24, 2012
Your arguing with yourself similar to a jhash
Malam's ... hypocrisy
written by fienliving56 , June 24, 2012
You have admonished others for calling name and being personal and here you do exactly the same ... except you do it so only I understand it ...so you do get no blame

You really proofing your self a cowered ... BTW ... it is Jahshah ... not jhash ... that is for plural Animals .. You know about Arabic as Mush as a child .

To all readers ...

I must be effecting this Muslim Malam so much ... that he lowered him self, to the point of calling me a '' A Donkey in Arabic

All that because I exposed his lies and showed what he really thinks about Jesus .

written by abc , June 24, 2012
written by malem, June 24, 2012
Your arguing with yourself similar to a jhash

I think you will find that your comprehension is rather poor.
He called you something similar to! He did not call you a donkey.
Calling someone similar to doesn't necessarily imply they are.
I think you crash and burn again figuratively speaking!
To all …. look at the Muslim hypocrisy and biasses
written by fineliving56 , June 24, 2012
Instead of pointing out the rudeness of Malam, like a gentleman would, when he gave a similarity between me and a donkey, the Muslim defends him, by making the problem, my fought of not understanding the exact reason, why my name was mentioned with a donkey ….

And all because I exposed the lies of Malam …

Two Muslim men give sample of Islamic Gallantly .
Isa is Muhammad's talking baby
written by Yibel , June 24, 2012
There is no story in the Bible of Yahshua (Jesus) talking as a baby! Yahshua's mother did not give birth to him while under a palm tree! These stories are straight from the mythology of The Buddha. Muhammad, or whoever wrote the Qur'an, got his stories all mixed up.

Yahshua's mother (Maryam) was not born to elderly parents who turned her over to a temple priest when she was just three years old. Arabian fathers handed their daughters over to temple priests to be raised as temple prostitutes (whores, or houris in Arabic), but Jewish parents DID NO SUCH THING! EVER! This story is based on the story of the birth of the famous Hebrew prophet Samuel - whose name never even comes up in the Qur'an, BTW.

Muhammad also got his Maryams mixed up and made Maryam, the mother of Isa, the sister of Musa and Harun; if these two brothers are supposed to be Moses and Aaron then they lived 1500 years earlier - in Egypt, not Judea where Yahshua was born.

And the stories about the calling of Musa to lead his people out of slavery in Egypt - totally wrong! And the plagues on the Egyptian - also wrong! Muhammad sisn't even manage to get the right number of plagues.

Muhammad also placed the visier Haman in the Egyptian court of Pharaoh, when Haman actually lived 1000 years later and 1000s of miles away in Persia. Q.28:38
The Qur'an even has Pharaoh making this completely asinine statement:
"Nobles you have no other god that I know of except myself."
Good Grief! The Egyptians had hundreds of gods, so you can't possibly come up with any dumber statement than that. Muhammad was a horse's patut.
written by malem , June 24, 2012
Your argument is based on the premise that the bible is the basis of 100 percent accuracy. The quran is the word of allah, pure and correct.

Fineliving, a Hamar is a donkey, my term was thatto compare your repetitive posts on Isa as babbling nonsensical convoluted argument, much easier to write the one word lass.
The world does not understand Paki, thatto terms…
written by fineliving56 , June 24, 2012
So … do not assume junk …

For your future references … In my world, You put down a women, if you put her in any similarity with a donkey,and it is as bad as using a Dog … we all know how Muslims irrationally, despise dogs …

if your women have no problem being put down and be compared to a donkey as your thatto tradition … we'r not

I understand … you were caught in a big lie about Jesus and I called you on it and you retaliated by calling, what I said, a donkey Babble.

Don't give it another thought … carry on
Spoken like an Arab
written by abc , June 24, 2012
"The world does not understand Paki "
Nice bit of racism there! Stay classy !

Do you mean Urdu, pushtu, punjabi, kashmir
@ malem
written by 1proudkaffur4life , June 24, 2012
written by malem , June 22, 2012

no parts instruct to k.ill, they are defnsive postures .
Quote END]

Please how can the cutting of throats of elderly or people in their sleep (who can not defend much less attack) at home be a act of defense? Like your brothers of FAITH the Muslims of Boko Haram have and are doing?
where is the lie?
written by malem , June 24, 2012
I said isa is a prophet in islam, he is.
I posted a paragraph from a random website on jesus that said he was fake. My point was the web cannot be trusted for 100 percent accuracy, it caanot

So the lie is?
Isa may be a prophet of Islam
written by Yibel , June 25, 2012
but Isa is Not Jesus/Yahshua. The stories about Islam's Isa are not the the same as the stories about Jesus - and the Qur'an provides very little by way of identification as to Isa really is. The birth stories are not the same, and the Qur'an provides nothing about the teachings or sayings of Isa beyond the "baby talk" - while the Bible has 4 books containing the sayings, teachings, and activities/miracles/healings of Jesus/Yahshua.

Furthermore, the Qur'an says that Isa was not killed by the Romans, while the Gospels (in Bible, New Testament) are very clear on this point - Jesus/Yahshua died nailed to a cross. The Qur'an says another person was substituted for Isa and died instead. That's sadistic and gross and so typical of Muhammad/Allah!
written by malem , June 25, 2012
Again your basis for argument is taken from the vantage point that the bible is 100% fact and accurate. That being said Isa is indeed Jesus, he was a prophet . Christians have him instead as being" the father the son the holy spirit" there is no trinity in islam. Also the bible is only Some of the gospels, others like the gnostic were keft out by the editor. The holy koran had 1 author, god so ill take that over your OPINION
Some points to ponder
written by Yibel , June 26, 2012
The Qur'an had one author - maybe - and he was a pedophile, rapist, murderer, philanderer, slaver, sadist, lying, thieving, cheatin, lusting. warmongering skumbag who gave himself the title of Muhammad, the Highly Praise One. His real name was probably Qutham, and he was most likely abused as a child. This would explain his desire to brutalized those who opposed him in any way. His continued desire to burn his detractors and force them to drink boiling water serves as confirmation he was abused.

Victims victimize in like fashion. In all probability he was burnt with fire and punished with scalding water as a child. Feeling unloved, the victimized boy became a victimizer by threatening all who stood in his way with the same torments he himself endured. Abuse breeds abuse. Qur'an 88:6 "They shall have no food but a poisonous plant with bitter thorns, which will neither nourish nor satisfy hunger."

Isa/Issa is the Arabic equivalent of Esau, the name of the twin brother of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham. The correct Arabic name for Jesus would be Yesuwa, similar to the Hebrew Yashuwa. The birth stories about the Quranic Isa/Issa are plagarized from stories about The Buddha. BTW, Esau fathered the Omar/Umar tribe, who became the Sunnis.

The Trinity of Islam is this: Muhammad, The Sacred Stone of the Ka'aba, and the book of Muhammad's testimony of himself, his manifesto - the Qur'an.
written by malem , June 26, 2012
wron again , Isa oe Esa is the word for jesus in the koran. your opinion of the author is just that your opinion, one could say the same about you as their opinion. There is no sunnis, shia etc in the koran, typical mistake made by a typical person whos nevere studied it.

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