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Bus & Subway Ads with Quranic Verses in Americna

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When the greatest Kuffars of the world help spread the divine messages of the Quran through expensive advertisements on buses and subways in America, Islam couldn't have any better than this, could it? Islam's campaign for subjugating the whole world draws towards a close, Inshallah!

bus and subway ads with violent quran verses in America

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racist add
written by malem , November 10, 2012
Seems that Spencer and Geller will go to no ends to spread falsehoods about Muslims. They are trying to paint the billions of arabs based on the action of a few, typical. Behavior of peoplw who want to deny freedom of religion. What if all of america was judged on the group at columbine? Or the KKK? Would that be fair? Of course not. What spencer has tried to do is make the add appear it is presented by some radical muslims when in reality if is just his attempt to take the right of freedom of religion from others, shameful
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...
written by esperanto , November 10, 2012
There they don't tell you about the bad verses of the Koran like:

"The Koran calls Jews Prophet-Killers Many Times,makes a Universal Curse on them,all of which produces Judeophobia"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/04/22/the-koran-calls-jews-prophet-killers-many-timesmakes-a-universal-curse-on-themall-of-which-produces-judeophobia/
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Malem
written by Kaser , November 10, 2012
You said: "...go to no ends to spread falsehoods about Muslims. They are trying to paint the billions of arabs based on the action of a few..."
Malem you seem to lack the ability to discern between Islam, Muslims and Arabs???

The text above is straight from Islamic scriptures - you cannot deny that.
The action depicted above was perpetrated by Arab Muslims - you cannot deny that.

Indeed, only a few Arab/Muslims would carry on an action such as this.
BUT, whatever you say Malem, you cannot erase the Islamic scriptures.

Many many many Muslims, Arab or other, use these verses to this day - because this is how they interpret it. It perfectly fits their hate and anger.

And this Malem, this is the UNDENIABLE PROOF that the Quran is flawed. It is a flawed book written by flawed humans a long long time ago.
You interpret it your way and countless other Muslims interpret it their own way.
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kaser
written by malem , November 10, 2012
I read your posts but it just says blah blah blah blah, or that's my interpretation :)
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To malem
written by Archpagan , November 10, 2012
They are not few malem, as you claim. All Muslims recite such sort of dirty verses every day and night.
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archpagan
written by malem , November 10, 2012
Why would they? It is not part of any salat? So I'm guessing you just assume "they" (whoever they is) say this out of ignorance of the religion. You might want to read the entire surah which the above supposed verse comes from, understand it in context and then form an opinion. Otherwsie you are presenting false data (some might even call it lies) and that's not the correct way lad.
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archpagan
written by malem , November 10, 2012
Why would they? It is not part of any salat? So I'm guessing you just assume "they" (whoever they is) say this out of ignorance of the religion. You might want to read the entire surah which the above supposed verse comes from, understand it in context and then form an opinion. Otherwsie you are presenting false data (some might even call it lies) and that's not the correct way lad.
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oh give it a rest.
written by peter pan , November 10, 2012
malem,
"racist add"
Show us 1 word that is racist .
What race do you claim to be ?
How do you determine this race ? DNA,blood tests,skin samples ?

Please elucidate what race muslims are.
And who are these mysterious racists ?

Even you can't play the - only a few are radicals - card.
Hundreds of thousands of people murdered by muslims every year aren't killed by a few.
Muslim invasions in western countries aren't by a few people .
100,000 rapes by muslims world wide every year aren't committed by 3 angry jihadists.
Thousands of kidnapped Christian girls forced to convert and marry filthy muslims aren't victims of 3 greasy old goat lovers.

What KKK ? Where are they? How many murders did they commit compared to muslims this year ?
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peterpan
written by malem , November 10, 2012
Good choise for a name, given your tendency for spouting fairy tales. 100's of thousands each year murdered? Blatant lie lad, that is what that be. Maybe your little tights are blocking oxygen from getting to your noggin
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To all re: Malem
written by Kaser , November 10, 2012
Sometimes, I wonder if "Malem" is not a construct from the site administrators to get us to react.
There is absolutely no depth to his arguments, just provocation...
What about it "Malem" ?
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@ Malem
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 11, 2012
> I read your posts but it just says blah blah blah blah, or that's my interpretation :)

"Blah blah blah blah" is not an interpretation. It is evasion.
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rami
written by malem , November 11, 2012
So you need to speak for Kaser? Actually I'd rather read Kasers posts, as you tend to bloviate quite a bit lad.

Back to article, its does nothing except inflame people, instead one would be better served and get better results building bridges versus burning them
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M. A. Khan
written by kope , November 11, 2012
i like your idea we need create more hates for muslims and islam
and bring xxxxxx christians in power so they can kick muslims out of west and xxxx homo and seculars liberals atheists xxxxxx



jai ramji ki
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malem
written by peter pan , November 11, 2012
You inflame people with false accusations .

Again ;

"racist add"
Show us 1 word that is racist .
What race do you claim to be ?
How do you determine this race ? DNA,blood tests,skin samples ?

Please elucidate what race muslims are.
And who are these mysterious racists ?
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Islam is BS
written by Jye , November 11, 2012
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^^^
written by Jye , November 11, 2012
Above is the UK doco that Muslims whined, b!tched about, and made their usual death threats over. Truth hurts.
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Sword Verse
written by Montegue , November 11, 2012
Quran 3:151 is a verse every Muslim would void quoting in peace or at war. This has been much studied and understood by the western military. The west is quite acquainted with terrors practiced by Muslims since the fall of Constantinople. Western military was never terrified by Muslim swords, which Muslims succeeded in using it against unorganized inhabitants. Venice was an impenetrable European bastion against Muslim intruders during the medieval time. During that era, the presumptuous Islamic power, that conquered the wider Levant, could only prevent Europeans from traveling on foot on Silk Road to China, but this soon was cleared by the Mongolians, who were feared much by the Muslims.

The Islamic practice of public execution, designed to drive fears, could only be effective if a nation had been brought under subjugation. From a western military stand point, it is not even considered to be effective psychologically. As a matter of fact it is an Islamic Achilles heel that could be exploited for misinformation. The beheading of Nick Berg, which meant to drive fears into the hearts of the infidels, by Islamists, although quietly celebrated by Muslims, became a negative campaign against them worldwide. The non-Muslim world, who resents the military power of the west, was gathered to stand with the west against them. As Islamists wish to draw attention by large inefficient attacks, causing more of their coreligionist to die along with small number of infidels, they inevitably alienated their own base.

The west is not as ignorant about Islam as perceived by its own citizens. The western military have invested a large sum of money in research on turning the Quran quotes against Islamists' own hurt. Most Islamists, who wanted the world to see us as their oppressor, often dare not quote directly from the Quran for they fear the world see the west as their victim, but none the less we have made ourselves appear as both victim and the benefactor of mankind, and they, as ruthless tyrants and a promiscuous slaughterers of innocence.

China, a non-western world, too understood the Quran intimately. They know just how to deprive Muslims from growing in numbers in their country. They scatter the Muslim women throughout the continent to assimilate them. Most of these women make their profession in entertaining men of infidels, so the glory of Islam is degraded, and their men must suffer the shortage of women as the rest of China. They too must joint the latest trend of practices of homosexual.

In Israel, the body parts of every suicide bomber, after swept from the street, are collected and wrapped in pig skin. Who knows what the US did with OBL! Perhaps his corpse was dragged and hung by his balls as Vladimir Putin promised his enemy.
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Sword Verse
written by Montegue , November 11, 2012
Quran 3:151 is a verse every Muslim would void quoting in peace or at war. This has been much studied and understood by the western military. The west is quite acquainted with terrors practiced by Muslims since the fall of Constantinople. Western military was never terrified by Muslim swords, which Muslims succeeded in using it against unorganized inhabitants. Venice was an impenetrable European bastion against Muslim intruders during the medieval time. During that era, the presumptuous Islamic power, that conquered the wider Levant, could only prevent Europeans from traveling on foot on Silk Road to China, but this soon was cleared by the Mongolians, who were feared much by the Muslims.

The Islamic practice of public execution, designed to drive fears, could only be effective if a nation had been brought under subjugation. From a western military stand point, it is not even considered to be effective psychologically. As a matter of fact it is an Islamic Achilles heel that could be exploited for misinformation. The beheading of Nick Berg, which meant to drive fears into the hearts of the infidels, by Islamists, although quietly celebrated by Muslims, became a negative campaign against them worldwide. The non-Muslim world, who resents the military power of the west, was gathered to stand with the west against them. As Islamists wish to draw attention by large inefficient attacks, causing more of their coreligionist to die along with small number of infidels, they inevitably alienated their own base.

The west is not as ignorant about Islam as perceived by its own citizens. The western military have invested a large sum of money in research on turning the Quran quotes against Islamists' own hurt. Most Islamists, who wanted the world to see us as their oppressor, often dare not quote directly from the Quran for they fear the world see the west as their victim, but none the less we have made ourselves appear as both victim and the benefactor of mankind, and they, as ruthless tyrants and a promiscuous slaughterers of innocence.

China, a non-western world, too understood the Quran intimately. They know just how to deprive Muslims from growing in numbers in their country. They scatter the Muslim women throughout the continent to assimilate them. Most of these women make their profession in entertaining men of infidels, so the glory of Islam is degraded, and their men must suffer the shortage of women as the rest of China. They too must joint the latest trend of practices of homosexual.

In Israel, the body parts of every suicide bomber, after swept from the street, are collected and wrapped in pig skin. Who knows what the US did with OBL! Perhaps his corpse was dragged and hung by his balls as Vladimir Putin promised his enemy.
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Truth about Islam
written by Gnostic , November 11, 2012
Many muslims are defending islam and telling that islam is peaceful and that violence is not the true islam and so on.

I do not believe that any more. I believe that muslims who are telling such things do know better in fact.

That islam divides the world into the House of Peace and the House of War, into muslims and infidels and that the quran even teaches muslim men to behave like dirty little cowards by beating their helpless wives.

Some muslims are even trying to convince others that islam is against polygamy while the quran clearly teaches that a muslim can have up to 4 wives and leaders may have even many more like Muhammad did.

There is no other truth that islam is the worst thing that ever happened to mankind and if there are some muslims who are good they are not good because of islam but in spite of islam.
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Malem is confused
written by Worldpeace , November 11, 2012
Malem at best you are confused. You are not any better than us, ex Muslim (though I do not like the term but used it for the purpose of conveying the sense that I know Islam firsthand). You say Islam prescribes only 3 prayers and you reject ahadith. Hah! And now, paradoxically, you are saying that verse above is quoted out of context. Which context, Malem? The ahadith provide a substantial proportion of quranic context, which you have rejected. So what next if not confusion. Or are you a decoy as insinuated by Kaser.
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Malem is confused
written by Innara , November 11, 2012
Malem is confused or really a LIAR! spare us this is taken out of context crap. We see what piglam is REALLY IS and your screaming racist ! is not working WE SEE THE CULT OF PIGLAM FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No confusion
written by malem , November 12, 2012
There is no confusion, the Quran stands alone and needs no such thing as hadith, in fact it warns against such. As for multiple wives, if you do not agreee, that is your choice, however it is very legal where I am and in many countries so that is my choice. If you spend they same amount of energy you do on whining and aimed it towards peaceful discussions, things would be better served
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NEW REVELATIONS
written by FOOL , November 12, 2012
Soon shall we fill all hearts with love and compassion and all miseries and sorrows of mankind will be gone but for that you will have to set yourselves free from the clutches of all organised religions because they are nothing but devils gangs.

REVEALED TO FOOL BY FOOLS GOD.
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@ Everyone
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 12, 2012
> If you spend they same amount of energy you do on whining and aimed it towards peaceful discussions, things would be better served

This is interesting for two reasons. The first is:

Malem is saying that Fineliving is discussing in a way that isn't peaceful. I looked up the word: "(1) Free from disturbance; tranquil, and (2) Not involving war or violence." She isn't violent so that rules out definition #2. So Malem must be saying that Fineliving is causing a disturbance. And I guess he means that she is saying things about Islam that upsets Muslims. Whats interesting is that Malem often uses name-calling and sarcasm, which are hostile personal attacks -- hence non-peaceful. Why are people so inconsistent like this?

The second interesting thing is the fact that by talking about the truth, we are causing a disturbance. We are upsetting Muslims simply because we refuse to keep quite about evil. We hold our values to be true and we are not willing to sacrifice our values so that Muslims can "feel" good about your their of reality.
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Mr khan
written by abc , November 12, 2012
If are going to propagate material designed to demonise me then at least spell the lead title correctly.
FFS!
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abc
written by Kaser , November 12, 2012
Quran 3:151:
"We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers."

Is it not in fact the Quran itself that demonizes you???
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kaser
written by abc , November 12, 2012
The picture Kaser! The picture!
All it will achieve is harden hearts towards the Muslims in the area of where this picture is showing. You might get someone shout something!
Worst case scenario a physical confrontation!
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abc
written by Kaser , November 12, 2012
Right abc, this is indeed intended to provoke.
Pretty much the same reasoning when you see Muslims holding "Slay the unbelievers" and "Behead those who insult the prophet"
Don't you think so?
Don"t you think Muslims trying to provoke westerners deserve to be handed some of their medicine?
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alhamdulilaa islam will be destroyed
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , November 12, 2012



alhamdulilaahhh islam will be destroyed.

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Kaser
written by abc , November 12, 2012
Sure I agree. However kaser it just takes one nutter to change the dynamics of your dangerous game!
Prepared for the fall out???
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The picture Kaser! The picture!
written by Infidel and More Proud , November 12, 2012
Aki the picture or the verse?
Are any of those false?
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Above
written by abc , November 12, 2012
"The picture Kaser! The picture!
All it will achieve is harden hearts towards the Muslims in the area of where this picture is showing. You might get someone shout something!
Worst case scenario a physical confrontation"
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Islam is the Religion of Rest in Peace
written by Georgina , November 12, 2012
Islam will bring peace to the earth by killing or converting all non-muslims, thereby eliminating all Dar-al-harb.
Thus Islam=Peace is a true statement, just like "To Serve Man" is a cook book.
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Mohammedanism is not in DNA
written by Tony , November 12, 2012
I am English because of my parents' genes. No one can help their racial identity.
My religion is by choice; my choice - it cannot be linked to DNA.
Islam does not act like a religion -- more like an ideology.
And of course if a political ideology can pretend to be a religion, it gets tax breaks, charity status, 'respect', and the rest of the perks that enable it fool the gullible.
And the religion of peace? Peace with God - NO WAY! More like peace with the devil!
Like Jesus said - 'by their fruits you will know them'. All the big religions get a low low score from that logic.
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@ abc
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 12, 2012
> Sure I agree. However kaser it just takes one nutter to change the dynamics of your dangerous game! Prepared for the fall out???

Wait. What game?

And why is it dangerous?

And why is it Kaser's game?
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Rami
written by abc , November 12, 2012
You know I love you and all but you would be a pain in the ass student to teach!
The game of provocation. "Islam will rule the world" vs "we shall cast terror" brigades.
It dangerous because innocent people get hurt.
You know like mosques get fire bombed, some Muslim elder gets beat up, or a woman with a headscarf gets spat at!
Surely rami you must have read about many instances where this is happening in America???
Kasers game because he justified one brand of stupidity for another!

Questions???
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@ abc
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 13, 2012
> You know I love you and all but you would be a pain in the ass student to teach!

If I was your student, and you actually believed that, you'd be an evil teacher.

> The game of provocation. "Islam will rule the world" vs "we shall cast terror" brigades. It dangerous because innocent people get hurt.

So you're saying that Kaser is trying to provoke you? Or do you mean provoke Muslims?

> You know like mosques get fire bombed, some Muslim elder gets beat up, or a woman with a headscarf gets spat at! Surely rami you must have read about many instances where this is happening in America???

No. But I'm not surprised. Many Americans are stupid and racist.

> Kasers game because he justified one brand of stupidity for another! Questions???

Yes. Same question. What is the game you're talking about that Kaser is playing? This time, please be clear. Don't give hints. Just make it plane as can be. Talk to me like I'm a 3rd grader.
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Rami
written by abc , November 13, 2012
I'm not sure how old your third graders are! But here goes:
I wouldn't be an evil teacher but quite incompetent surely. I think evil is the wrong word there.
The game of provocation is simply this:
The brigade that hold up " Islam will rule the world" are just antagonising the "we shall cast terror" brigade and vice versa. In the mean time the rest of us have bills to pay.
However in their propaganda innocents get hurt.
Kaser justified the "we shall cast terror" ad against Muslims as an answer to "Islam will dominate" provication.
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Abc
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
Wrong abc, very wrong...
Group 1, the "Islam will rule the world" are antagonizing the general open-minded western population, including those Muslims that are not for radical Islam or Sharia.

Group 2, The "we shall cast terror..." Brigade seek to counter the "Islam will rule the world" group. Both have the general population as target audience.

But, group 1 seeks to frighten and change the society they live in. They seek to push us back into the dark ages.
Whereas Group 2 seeks to make sure the population is aware of the true nature of Islam, with provocative adverts - using the same, efficient marketing approach.

Similar methods, very different goals.
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Kaser
written by abc , November 13, 2012
I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
Both groups are part of the same coin.

You think that the people who put up the ads have freedom in mind then you are deluded. Plastic pam and David Horowitz gimp boy spencer could care about america or its freedoms. Their agenda is to demonise a section of American society, make them in the "others". Once that happens then it's easier to destroy that group.
They also use the political system to try to achieve their aims. John Bolton firing policy advisor to mitt the twit. Good friend of geller.
Peter "IRA" terrorist king,,friend of geller. The list goes on and on.
You are naive to think they are the good guys.
They inspire nothing good!
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abc
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
I always take care of being fair and straight with you.
But abc, you have to agree that, if radical Muslims did not start this pissing contest, to push for Islamic "reform" in the West, we would not be in this situation. They are pissing on the same West that accepted them open arms.

There are many muslims that take advantage of this open society. They use the same "freedom of expression" to express their desire to conquer all, and at the same time spit on it when Islam is being criticized.

Moderate Muslims (like you I think) must go down in the streets, in vast numbers, and shut the motherfu**ers who keep chanting "Islam will rule the world" and "behead those who insult Islam". Ask them to shut up, or slap them 'till they do.
These A$$holes are the real agitators.

If I go down and counter them, I will be branded an Islamophobe (and be proud of it!).
But if moderate Muslims counter them, what will happen then abc???
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agaiin with race ?
written by jane , November 13, 2012
> You know like mosques get fire bombed, some Muslim elder gets beat up, or a woman with a headscarf gets spat at! Surely rami you must have read about many instances where this is happening in America???

No. But I'm not surprised. Many Americans are stupid and racist.

Really ?
Where are all these supposed victims? 90% of crimes against muslims in the US are committed by muslims .

And what do you expect when you invade a country and demand fraudulent religious rights and claim they are superior to established laws. No one invited you to move in,teach your religion or give your opinions.
99% of Americans care nothing about muslims .YOU are trying force your ideology down everyones throat.

What race are muslims ?
What race is iislam ?

Who is being racists towards you in the US ? Blacks? Hispanics ? Native Americans ? Irish ? British ?
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agaiin with race ?
written by jane , November 13, 2012
> You know like mosques get fire bombed, some Muslim elder gets beat up, or a woman with a headscarf gets spat at! Surely rami you must have read about many instances where this is happening in America???

No. But I'm not surprised. Many Americans are stupid and racist.

Really ?
Where are all these supposed victims? 90% of crimes against muslims in the US are committed by muslims .

And what do you expect when you invade a country and demand fraudulent religious rights and claim they are superior to established laws. No one invited you to move in,teach your religion or give your opinions.
99% of Americans care nothing about muslims .YOU are trying force your ideology down everyones throat.

What race are muslims ?
What race is iislam ?

Who is being racists towards you in the US ? Blacks? Hispanics ? Native Americans ? Irish ? British ?
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Abc
written by abc , November 13, 2012
Why is my ip address blocked???
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Kaser
written by abc , November 13, 2012
I appreciate your candor and i hope in return i do the same for you.
Radical reform?? What reforms do you speak of?? Give me an idea???

My position on freedom of expression is that it must be upheld. However the people that test the limits of this must do so with a degree of responsibility. Otherwise you can offend me and I can offend you and we can both get nowhere.
I don't know which part of the world you are from but I can only speak about the uk.

The Muslim community as a whole arrived pretty late to party.
The radicalisers had a massive lead and a lot of youth were lost to their world view!
Classic example would be the work of Omar Bakri when he resided in London.
His apprentice rent a rant anjem continues that but to a minuscule degree!
7/7 was a wake up call and time for massive introspection and the questions asked from outside and from within were difficult to digest.
However the government dealt with the issues with a velvet glove and a steel hand policy. The radical elements are being questioned, imams are being homegrown and not imported from elsewhere. These new imams are young, educated, and have gone through the Uk schooling system, they speak the language of the youth.
They are challenging ideas that were traditional Pakistani/Indian/Arab ideas.
A lot is being done on the ground floor that will bear fruit.
Some radicals are unfortunately part of a list generation and the best policy is to contain them. Defeat the ideas you defeat the man!


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abc
written by Kaser , November 13, 2012
Thank you abc for this lengthy and pertinent response.
I just wanted to let you know I read it, and will answer later tonight from home.
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@ abc
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 13, 2012
> I'm not sure how old your third graders are! But here goes: I wouldn't be an evil teacher but quite incompetent surely. I think evil is the wrong word there.

No. I think you were saying that its annoying for a teacher to be asked questions by the student when the student is confused. That is evil.

> The game of provocation is simply this: The brigade that hold up " Islam will rule the world" are just antagonising the "we shall cast terror" brigade and vice versa. In the mean time the rest of us have bills to pay. However in their propaganda innocents get hurt. Kaser justified the "we shall cast terror" ad against Muslims as an answer to "Islam will dominate" provication.

Is the ad saying something false?

When terrorists do their work, don't they believe they are doing right because of verses like 3:151?
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@ abc
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 13, 2012
> My position on freedom of expression is that it must be upheld. However the people that test the limits of this must do so with a degree of responsibility.

What sort of limits are you thinking of?

> Otherwise you can offend me and I can offend you and we can both get nowhere.

No. Your getting offended is your problem, not mine. And if I get offended, that is my problem, not yours.
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Rami
written by abc , November 14, 2012
Why do you think that doing something responsibly implies a limit???
How are you equating the two???

In terms of the offence, then I suppose it is a method.
However it is not a method conducive to progress or dialogue!
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Abc
written by Kaser , November 14, 2012
I'll try and answer your points in order.

About the reform I mention. I see radical Muslim requesting changes to western society. You live in the UK, so you are faced with this also. Examples of reform requests I see:
- implementing sharia law
- changing school, such as having prayer rooms in universities
- adapting official uniforms to integrate the hijab
- making criticism of Islam a criminal offence

As for freedom of expression, it must never be removed or alterred.
We MUST always be free to criticize ideologies, to question facts, to prove them right or wrong and act accordingly.
I cannot understand why radical muslims would want to make criticism of Islam a crime - Islam itself criticizes other religions, so it would immediately be labeled criminal by the same law radical muslims seek to implement to protect it.

As for your portrait of UK, you seem indeed well versed in the subject. I have a question for you. Do you feel homegrown, young muslims, born And raised in hte UK more susceptible to being negatively affected by radicals such as Anjem Choudary? Do you feel, abc, that there is "ghettoisation" going on?

Keep up your positive posts, I enjoy learning about Islam through your experience in the UK
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@ abc
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 14, 2012
> Why do you think that doing something responsibly implies a limit??? How are you equating the two???

I didn't say anything was implies. *You* said the word "limit". I'll quote you:

>> My position on freedom of expression is that it must be upheld. However the people that test the limits of this must do so with a degree of responsibility.
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Can this human civilization be pushed backwards by 14 centuries?
written by Dr R Brahmachari , November 14, 2012
Whenever I ask this question to myself, I receive a negetive reply. But I fail to suiggest a procedure how the process of Islamizaation could be stopped with too many Muslim appeasing governments coming up across the world. If the dream of the Muslims becomes a reality, it would be the greatest calamity of the human race. It is really dreadful even to think that the brain-dead inbred stupids will, in future, lead the humanity to doom by robbing of freedom and democracy. The only way to avert this disaster is to launch a civil war by the common people to root out the Muslims to the last. Or to destroy Islam by the destruction of Kaaba in Mecca and the Prophet's mosque at Medina.
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Kaser
written by abc , November 14, 2012
Implementing sharia where? Sharia is implemented by the will of the people.
Muslims in the uk are under 2% of the general population. How can you have a system for 2% and expect the 98% to adhere to it. It does not make any sense.
I think you are in a panic about nothing, secondly as Muslim populations begin to assimilate then birth rates come down to the norm. So this birth epidemic idiots talk about is false too.
As for things like prayer rooms then why not?? The alternative is to pray in open public spaces. Again you get people whining about that. What's the answer?
As for shariah courts then they are very similar to Beth din courts used by the Jews.
They are used for reconciliation, advice and personal issues.
They are NOT allowed by law to contradict the law of the land. How is this taking over?? Laws can only be changed by parliament and the house of commons in consultation with the house of lords.
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Kaser
written by abc , November 14, 2012
I think the laws must be applied universally. If you are going to ban religious symbology like hijabs the crosses and stars etc etc.
As for criminalizing criticisms then it's not what I personally agree with.
As for dear old anjem then he is seen as a bit of a joke.
He has NO qualification to teach. He regularly gets told to shut up but the media love the guy and he provides sensational quotes.
A reporter exposed a newspaper recently about their anti Islamic agenda and how they manipulate anjem to provide quotes. These quotes come with a price tag you understand.
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Kaser
written by abc , November 14, 2012
As for ghettoisation. That has been part and parcel of the life of an immigrant. You arrive and you have nothing and with luck, kindness and hard work you move out of the ghetto within a generation. In any industrial city in England you can draw a line from the centre to the outskirts and it will tell you all about that city and it's immigration. New arrivals always end up in the inner cities and as time passes that group of people move out. When my grandfather came to the uk the ghettos were Jewish! They had all the retail units in the inner cities an amazing work ethic.
They moved out and the Indian and Pakistanis came. Then the afrocarribeans and bangladeshis. Then the eastern Europeans.
So the eastern Europeans are living where my grandfather used to live.
Now the use if your language. Why is it that if I say to you polish, Bulgarian and Lithuanian ghetto you will classify eastern European.You will never say a Christian ghetto or Christian problem. Yet if I said an afghan, Iraqi and Somali ghetto and you will say Muslim.
Why the double standards???
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Kaser
written by abc , November 14, 2012
My last post has been sent to admin.
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Dr B
written by Malem , November 14, 2012
So your solution to another persons religious choice (that you dont approve of) is "The only way to avert this disaster is to launch a civil war by the common people to root out the Muslims to the last. Or to destroy Islam by the destruction of Kaaba in Mecca and the Prophet's mosque at Medina. "

What do you mean Root Out? Does that mean harm physically? Threats by a Dr? You must be a lousy Dr if that is the case, our job is to save and improve lives chap.

Do you really think by destroying Mecca or Medina that would really wipe our Islam? Was any religion whos most holiest sites were demolished, wiped out? Your not a very smart man are you. My guess is if you tried to wipe them out or even succeeded you would make Islam even stronger, then then have to deal with a nasty backlash mate.
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Malem
written by Kafirwala , November 15, 2012
'Our job is to save and improve lives.'

Who are the 'our' in this? muslims? hahahaha, what a joke!
Where muslims have saved and improved lives in the history of mankind? Can you show a single instance where muslims did this in their own countries or elsewhere? Muslims were at the rock bottom of every good thing in the world, even though their claims are to the contrary. Look at the muslim nations of today or the muslim populations in other countries. Educationally, health - wise, economically, culturally, yes culturally, these countries and societies are backward compared to any other religion or ethnicities in the world, except of course a few petro- dollar countries who are economically well. Because, all societies in the world surge ahead, but muslims are stuck up in the sixth century with their retrograde mindset. So long as muslims consider the crap Quran as sacrosanct, I really don't find any change in their socio- political status.

Coming to Dr. Brahmachari's opinion of rooting out this cult, I concur with him 100%. Islam is not a religion and a cult only and this cult is singularly responsible for the maximum bloodshed, oppressions, violence and ideological bigotry down the centuries in the world. The world will not be a peaceful place until this poisonous, dangerous and spiteful cult is eradicated from the surface of the earth. To achieve that end, taking up any means including force is right in my opinion. Even today, there is no respite in the atrocities and persecutions suffered by the non- muslims in the so- called Islamic countries. Day by day it is escalating only, not declining. All muslim countries are engaged in systematic annihilation of their non- muslim minorities. What is the remedy? Nothing is in sight. If you ask me, personally I advocate tit for tat to these barbarians. Give a dose of their own medicine to these savages in every non- muslim country. When these savages are at the receiving end only, they will know the pinch of it. So it is no surprise if somebody like Dr. Brahmachari advocates strong measures like bombing of Mecca and Medina to show the ire of the non- muslims at the savagery of muslim barbarians.
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abc
written by Kafirwala , November 15, 2012

'Now the use if your language. Why is it that if I say to you polish, Bulgarian and Lithuanian ghetto you will classify eastern European.You will never say a Christian ghetto or Christian problem. Yet if I said an afghan, Iraqi and Somali ghetto and you will say Muslim.
Why the double standards???'

Islam is not the largest religion in the world. It is christianity. Naturally, there are many countries in the world where christians are dominating. No country is known as a christian country and there is no grouping on that basis. Likewise, there are many countries in Asia dominated by buddhists. They are not known as buddhist countries. India is a country where more than 80% of the population is hindu. Yet, India is not a hindu country. But Lebanon where a little more than 50% of the people are muslim, is known as a muslim or Islamic country. Likewise there are 57 countries known as Islamic countries, just because muslims are dominating in those countries and they have got an association called the OIC. Everything about them is in terms of muslim and non- muslim. Whose choice was that? So when Russia or America makes a nuclear bomb, it doesn't become a christian bomb, that made by China doesn't become a buddhist bomb, one made by India not a hindu bomb. But when Pakistan or Iran makes a nuclear bomb, the picture is changed. It is an Islamic bomb. Because it is predominantly an Islamic nation and it is making a nuclear bomb primarily in order to protect the Islamic interests only. Like that you will see so many things. Muslim ghetto, muslim market, muslim city et al. All non- muslim things are common. But when a thing is muslim made or muslim related, the label will be pasted on the forehead. That is how the savage muslims want it. In short, the polarisation was your choice. Why complain about it now?
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Kafirwala
written by abc , November 15, 2012
You will find that labelling came from non Muslims not Muslims.
Pull your head out of your backside son, it's a nice day out here!
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Kafirwala
written by abc , November 15, 2012
I refuse to talk to a numbskull who advocates ethnic cleansing and justifies it using somantics. I think you are suffering from "little man syndrome"
Angry and incapable!
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Kafirwala clown
written by abc , November 15, 2012
Intact I would love it if you started your cleansing programme with me!!
I would happily give you my address and you can come start the ball rolling with me.
But if you get snapped like a toothpick them don't cry afterwards!!!
What do you say champ???
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abc
written by Kaser , November 15, 2012
There are definitive attempts to implement parallel Sharia courts to process Muslim affairs. I see it here, although weakly. There should be one justice system, with one value system for all citizens of a country, and religion DOES NOT belong anywhere near both. With parallel sharia courts, this means Muslim women will be pressured to go to these "courts" where they will not be treated the same as if they went to the lawful courts. This is discrimination based on religion.

As to prayer rooms in universities. What is the purpose? How about prayer rooms in office workplaces? Government building? Firestations? Police stations? Where else? Religion, for those who believe, has it's place intwo locations, ond two locations only: homes and places pf worship (churches, synagogues, mosques, ...). Religion has and is still causing problems all over. If we allow prayers rooms in public places,we accept as a society to let religion enter our lives even further. This is unacceptable, religion must be pushed back into the dark ages where it belongs. I would never accept anything to do with religion taking any place in my office.

As for ghettoisation, I think this is the first time we see a "religious ghetto". A ghetto with no geographicsl borders. Where a "chinatown" is an example of a traditionnal ghetto, muslims have created a religious ghetto by refusing, in some instances to conform and integrate to our society. This is new and unique in a way.

Always nice to read you abc.
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Kaser
written by abc , November 15, 2012
If you are going to ban small "religious" ciudad then that ban should be across the board. Maybe if I explain how the pioneers work this. My brothers the Jews have Beth din courts normally aligned with a synagogue. These courts solve relationship issues, inheritance, food and offer a wide range of services for a Jewish person to function.
I don't hear anyone wanting to ban that. Yet shariah courts do exactly the same and all of a sudden there is hysteria about limb chopping. Total misinformation.
Again all religious courts cannot contradict the law of the land!

If you want to seperate religion from work then I have objection with that, as long as its done for everybody!

Religious ghettos are a myth! Every immigrant you speak to will want their children to do better than them. It's human nature. You want your children to be better more successful than you. Social success means keeping up with the "jones's"
Better house, better neighbourhood, better job, better car, better schooling etc etc.
Who in the right mind wants to stay and their children to go through the first generation immigrant experience!
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Kaser
written by abc , November 15, 2012
First line should say "religious courts"
My idiot phone predicts what I want to type!
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abc
written by Kafirwala , November 15, 2012

You muslim junkhead, listen! Gone are the days when you muslim scoundrels and sh!tbags got away with your muscle flexes and war cries. You remember 9/11. The Afghan war and Iraq war were the natural retaliation. It will recur in future too. Ruthless mindless violence will be mitigated by counter violence only. In other words evil begets evil. That is the present world order. You barbarian pigs leave your hellholes and migrate to the pastures of western democracy and if you think you can create your ugly ghettos, you are sadly mistaken, you retards. In the vast ocean of humanity, your islands of ignorance and malpractices will not last long. It will be ruthlessly submerged at the right time. The tidal waves will not lash always. But at the right time it will strike and your ghettos will be washed away in the mammoth waves. It is better if you remember it. I know the reason for your intolerance. Tit for tat is my avowed policy for all muslim barbarianism and atrocities. It is not ethnic cleansing. You just cannot cleanse ethnicity in its homeland. Some remnants will always remain. Sitting in UK, there is no point in flexing your muscles at me. I am in India. But, I am sure at the right time, right kind of people will handle you. So think well and leave your muslim fanaticism and savagery and go integrate with the multitude of the humanity.
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@ Kaser
written by This is Rami Rustom , November 15, 2012
> If we allow prayers rooms in public places,we accept as a society to let religion enter our lives even further. This is unacceptable, religion must be pushed back into the dark ages where it belongs. I would never accept anything to do with religion taking any place in my office.

That idea won't solve the problem.

In an open society, people will adopt good ideas over evil ideas. Ideas are like genes in many ways, which is why we call them memes. Genes and memes evolve. Evolution requires variation and selection. Selection is caused by selective pressures. In genetic evolution, selective pressures cause certain genes to not get replicated, causing them to not contribute to the gene pool, and thus die off. In memetic evolution, selective pressures cause certain memes to not get replicated, causing them to not contribute to the meme pool, and thus die off.

Selective pressures kill off the unfit genes. Selective pressures kill off the unfit memes (aka evil ideas).

In an open society, selective pressures exist that are killing off evil ideas. An open society is one that allows individuals the freedom to pursue their own happiness. The less freedom individuals have, the more closed the society is.

So, businesses have the freedom to install prayer rooms. And they have the freedom to not install prayer rooms. And people (theists and atheists) have the freedom to work at either type of business (those with and those without prayer rooms).

Wanting a prayer room in a business is a meme that some business owners have. Not wanting a prayer room in a business is a meme other business owners have. Let the memes compete. Lets see which meme dies off.
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Kafirwala
written by Malem , November 15, 2012
Turth is Islam is groing and will grow. You will allow it in the west as you cannot stop anyone from practicing their chosen religion. There will be more schools that have a Islamic theme built, there are many being built now. Islam will become one of the larger religions of the west. It will grow in India as well as it is doing, again you can force religion on people or away from people. It is better to accept it and learn about it more, that will make it all the easier on you.
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Abc
written by Kaser , November 16, 2012
Indeed, my comments and observations are valid for ALL religions.
Like I said in some of my previous posts, I believe ALL religions are doomed to become relics of the past. Only the speed at which we can educate the masses will make this process shorter or longer.

When old fossils like Malem pass away to their imaginary dreamland, with them dissapears the old ways. They are replaced by younger individuals, with ipods, internet and a sense of freedom that Malem did not have, and does not care to have. It's quite incompatible with his way of life.
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Malem
written by Kaser , November 16, 2012
Thruth is Malem, Islam will whither and die in the West as younger generations give a fu*k off to the oppressive nature of Islam. Why? Because we have seen this with the catholic church over the last 75 years. It's almost completely gone where I live.

But don't worry Malem, you will not see this downfall. These things take time. So you can stay comfortable knowing that for the next few years, you will still be able to live your Islamic way of life with no hindrance.

Especially since Morsi and his Brotherhood are now in power... Egyptian Women will just have to wait some more to get the respect we give them here in the west.

Cheers old man, you are truly a relic - and a hoot to read!
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Kaser
written by Malem , November 16, 2012
The brotherhood will help it grow throughout the rest of Africa. Islam today is populated by over 73% being under the age of 30 lad, so you might want to rethink your younger generational plan. In fact I have 11 grandkids, 8 whom are boys who will carry on with their faith. Nothing is better than going to Mosque on Friday with them, just beautiful!
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Kafirwala
written by abc , November 16, 2012
"junkhead!" thanks for the complement.
I remember 9/11 terrorist attack
I remember the afghan war which has almost bought another empire to its knees.
I remember the iraq war too, lies to steal resources.
They were a response to what exactly???
I think your reading and comprehension are sadly lacking. The point kaser and I have been discussing is that the ghettos are part and parcel of the immigrant experience.
That's what happens when you butt in mid conversation.
No you moron your policy is not tit for tat. Your policy is the all out murder of all adherents of a given religion. Do you not read what you type?
As for you living in India then it's a shame. I was offering you your chance to start your vision, be the first, be a hero to your cause.
Me flexing? Unlikely. I'm a balding five foot, 80lbs, squintinter with a hearing issue, low sperm count and a limp. You type like you have an S on your chest and walk around in cape!
I am integrating I don't need you to tell me I am not because of my beliefs!
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Malem
written by Kaser , November 16, 2012
Oh sure, "the rest of Africa"...
Do you mean the brotherhood will help Ansar Dine in Mali?
Do you mean the brotherhood will help Boko Haram in Nogeria?
How proud you must be Malem for Egypt - what progress in store for your country.

11 grand kids - and you specify 8 whom are boys...
Because the 3 girls are irrelevant Malem?
Oh right, I forgot, they are "weak of intelligence and religion".
So, I guess I have to say I'm sorry you did not get 11 grandsons...

Going to the Mosque with them on fridays, how cute. As if they have any choice in the matter.
Must not anger the old Islamic fossil that you are right Malem!
I also guess you leave the three little girls at home to play with their dolls until a 40+ year-old pedophile asks them in marriage?
How sweet, it brings tears to my eyes... Just like your prophet with his 6-year-old baby-girl wife.
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abc
written by Kaser , November 16, 2012
I agree with you, for obvious reasons, murdering ANYBODY based on their religion is utterly unacceptable.
We saw genocides and similar acts in the recent past - Hutu vs Tutsi. Darfur. Armenia. Germany.
What hate and human lives wasted.
That is what ultra-violent groups in countries with weak governments do - like in Nigeria and Mali.

abc, I do feel you are integrating, and doing it for the right reasons. Much like my grandfather did when he emigrated close to a century ago. He thought his children to adopt the customs of the country he adopted. My father thought us the same, and I to my children.
You know I believe religions have no more role to play in our lives. I will strive to thoroughly eliminate them from our governments, public institutions, schools, ect...
But I will also fight for the right of those who believe to freely practice it to their heart's content - but either in their homes or in their place of worship.
That's it, that's all. No if ands or buts.

And this is unlike what we see in many(most) Islamic countries - where non-Muslims are oppressed - Jizya or otherwise.
Islam, I am sad to say, is a leader in putting forward ideologies that were fine 1400 years ago in the Middle East, but are thoroughly unacceptable today...
That drones like Malem hang onto. Like Saudi Arabia made into a government.

abc, media-whores like Anjem Choudary must completely piss you off.
What damage these idiots do for Moderates like you, but they really help our cause of pushing Islam, and religions altogether, into passive irrelevance.
Many many intolerant acts committed against Muslim are retaliation for what the foul-mouthed haters like Choudary spew out...
They do more to establish hate than dialogue...
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abc
written by Dwito , November 16, 2012
To Kafirwala, November 15th above
You will find that labelling came from non Muslims not Muslims.

Who has labelled Pakistan's stolen nuclear bomb as islamic bomb? Was jonab Bhutto a Hindu?
Pull your head out of your backside son, it's a nice day out here!
ha ha ha.
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written by Dwito , November 16, 2012
To Kafirwala, on November 15th above.
I refuse to talk to a numbskull who advocates ethnic cleansing and justifies it using somantics. I think you are suffering from "little man syndrome"
Angry and incapable!


Whow about the terror manual's instructions to turn a dar-ul-harb into an dar-ul-islam?

Kafirwala clown

Still sounds familier!!!!!!!!
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written by Dwito , November 16, 2012
To Kafirwala, on November 15th above.
Intact I would love it if you started your cleansing programme with me!!
I would happily give you my address and you can come start the ball rolling with me.
But if you get snapped like a toothpick them don't cry afterwards!!!

What do you say champ?


Simple? If you are so positively boastful, why don't you challenge the misguided and Qur'an misunderstood, hadith crap believer jihadi's to rectify themselves?
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Malem
written by Kaser , November 17, 2012
Malem your silence is pretty much admitting my last post is true.

You AGREE with the Muslim Brotherhood supporting terrorist groups - all in the name of furthering Islam... whether or not those whom Boko HaAram and Ansar Dine are trying to "convert" do not want to - the sword!. You are an oppressor Malem, with your two wives, 8 grandsons and three "invisible" granddaughters...
You are a relic. And as a relic you have the right to exist of course and a right to think your retarded ideology is "god's true purpose for man".
The days of old fossils like you are numbered... Keep your grand-kids close to the mosque because they will want to abandon this like the plague as they grow up...

OH! I FORGOT, you're in Egypt where the Islamic winter is taking hold - so yes, Islam will gain to the detriment of everything.

SILLY ME, for a second there, I thought you were in the West... you know, the west where all technology, medical discoveries, human rights, and all come from?
You know Malem, the "West" where so many Muslims flee their oppressive countries in hope of a better life?
Yes Malem, that "West" - the one you hate so much... the one that thinks Islam is up to no good all over the world.

So being in Egypt, your grandkids will indeed be pressured to stay within ISlam (you'll make sure of that). You know Malem, with the threat of being assassinated if they become apostates, they sure will think it through before admitting they think Islam is bullsh1t ... Malem, do you think your grandkids should be assasinated should they abandon Islam? Do you, as a Muslim in good standing, believe this?

So Malem, stay put in your little Islamic stronghold for now... For it, like all others, will fall...
... to the hands of those three granddaughters you think so little of.
They will be your downfall old man. In time, they will gut your cult and hang old farts like you with your bowels.

Have a nice day, and keep funding Boko Haram, they have so many innocent christians to kill in Nigeria.

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