www.islam-watch.org

Definition is A policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race. Isreal does this each day with Arabs from Philistine.

Salaam Bro,

I think you will find that the Islamaphobes regard Israel to be very peaceful and tolerant....

The civilised world does not live in cloud cuckoo land and is aware of how Israel deals with the Palestinians.

Check this article for a balanced view.

http://www.opednews.com/articl...3-113.html

Very True, I cannot understand how they deny the land of Philistine to the Philistines, quite odd.

Very True, I cannot understand how they deny the land of Philistine to the Philistines, quite odd.

The Philistines have been dead a long time...I can see why you are confused...
Maybe if those sweet but dead Philistines would stop showering Israel with rockets, Israel might help them out...That whole area was an outpost to nowhere during the Ottoman empire, no one cared about Jerusalem, and only a very few people lived there, mostly Jews...But as soon and the property was rewarded to Israel by the British and the UN, it suddenly became important Five Muslim countries attacked Israel on the very first day it became a state of it's own... The Muslims lost, and they lost several other wars they started later...The so called 'Palestinians, who never existed prior to 1967, have been at continual war against Israel ever since...Allah wills it...he never did like Jews...

If you have opened the article and read, you know where Israel stands vis-a-vis its neighbours. Apartheid becomes relevant when treatment of different sections of the people within a state differs. Palestinians are not part of the state of Israel, but a people dedicated to the Jewish state's destruction and they have made every possible efforts to achieve that goal.

“No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it.” —Khartoum Resolution, Sept 1, 19673 by Arab Leaders. Could you find a more worse, intolerant and apartheid statement than this. No matter in which country a Muslim lives his attitude towards Israel is summed up in those words.

read 19673 as 1967 in my comment

Muslims pracice apartheid in the most blatant manner under the cover of their socalled religion in which the arabs are at the top,then come the turks,iranians. Indian and paki muslims are far below in arab esteem and are treated as dirt , just slaves . Indian or paki muslims cannot brcome a citizen in an arab country or own business or claim any right as a citizen. If this is the condition of indian and paki muslims , you can imagine the plight of any nonmuslim in an arab country.
Even in India, muslims live as though they do not belong here but to pakistan or bangladesh or some other country to which they find affinity , while forgetting that they are ethnically related to the hindus ,not to the arabs. Why do they do this ? It is the indoctrination of htese zombies where their minds are conditioned to hate nonmuslims (even their own ancestors) and find affinity with the arabs. They even invent some genealogy tracing their ancestry to arabs/turks/iranians/central asians like uzbeks, or afghans and the like. They also believe that they are a superior race thus by tracing their origins as arabs,turks,pakhtoons,iranians,etc. If this is not apartheid,what else it can be ? It is the slavish mentality of these indian muslims that makes them "marry" off their teenage daughters to the old and decrepit arabs who only use these girls as slaves when they return back to their deserts.
Islam is designed to ratify apartheid by quran where arabs are the topknotch people while others are to abjectly submit to their diktats . Islam condones slavery,murder, plunder, rape,pedophilia of nonmuslims as a part of their religious duties.

Painting an entire population based on the actions of a few is quite ignorant and ignores the fact that many Palestinians (and yes they existed before 1967) live and work in Israel with no problems whatsoever. However when they are denied participation in the very state in which they live, segragated in every part of their lives from having to have special colored license plates, denied access to certain stores/resturants/services based on their race it makes for a tough situation. There are irresponsible people on both sides and that is undeniable. So your response is technically wrong as there are many Palestinians living and participating in the state of Israel. This grows each time that Israel justifies and illegal land grab and labels it then part of the ever growing state.

Mr Kahn, your statement is incorrect as there are many Palestinians who live and work (and have for generations) in Israel. However even though the local population enjoys the cheap labor of the Palestinians, they do not allow them to participate in society, they are blocked from certain areas, certain restaurants and stores, harassed in the conservative areas, even made to have special color license plates so they can be easily spotted. Now Im sure even you can see that as apartheid. One issue is as Israel keeps up its expansion with outposts and illegal settlements they grab more land of the Palestinians and in that the people themselves. Both sides have groups who are blatantly wrong in their behavior and to paint and entire population with such a broad brush is quite ignorant. If there would be some true strong leadership such as the former Pres Clintn of theUS maybe they could halt the ongoing madness. Too many lives and too much money has been wasted.

'Too many lives and too much money has been wasted'.

If that concerns you, call off your dogs...

'One issue is as Israel keeps up its expansion with outposts and illegal settlements they grab more land of the Palestinians' ...

The only land belonging to 'Palestinians' is that which was purchased from Jews...If the rest of them already had their own land, there would be no struggle to get it...and they have made it clear they want it all, not a part of it...Muslims will not tolerate, on a permanent basis, a kuffar country right in the middle of them, on land originally given to them by Allah...It just happens that this particular bunch of squatters are the hated Jews...which just adds fuel to Muslim fire...The 'Palestinians' could be awarded one state, two, states of five, and the jihad against Israel will continue...

If Palestinian citizens of Israel are treated in apartheid fashion, as you claim, then why that doesn't become the issue in condemning Israel as an apartheid state. Why the same claims are not made the Christians of Israel? They would be discriminated as much had the Jewish state practised apartheid policies.

Painting an entire population based on the actions of a few is quite ignorant

Since 1948, every war against Israel has been supported by not only a overwhelming majority of the Palestinians, but also by the overwhelming majority of Muslims of the Arab world. And even in the past decade, when negotiation on two-state solution was ongoing, polls showed 87% of Palestinians expressing their desire to create a Palestinian state that included all of the land of Israel.

who is mentioning philistine again even Allah is his book says Allah gave the land to Israel. As far as we know the philistines are dead.

But you know it is not about land is about religion. The hate creed ( the Quran) says don't allow the jew to live. They are a cursed nation. Don't make friends with them and even the Christians because they belong to the same Abraham faith and our own is pagan and stone worshippers they are not the same you must wipe them to the last. That was Mohammed's order.

So who among the Islamic nation is friend of Israel ? Tell me. As long as a tiny nation like Israel lives among them and they could not drive them or destroy them how will they have the gut to face the great Satan (US) so that is the Logis , they must all gather to destroy Israel and the Palistine is good cuase for coming together to fullfil this common goal among the Mohammadans.

The hate creed ( the Quran)

Where is your timeless message of love, mercy & forgiveness Mr Pastor......

we want to ween you from that book otherwise you will not hear good news and love message from the creator of this universe. Because you believe that the Quran is the word of the true God you have closed your ears your heart to the gospel that will save your soul.

If today you give up the Quran and take up the Bible you will here the sound gospel.

Here is an in depth analysis of the crimes committed by Israel. Enjoy.

http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/TOC.htm

"It is written by ISSA NAKHLEH who was a Palestinian Christian, born in the Shepherd's Field in Palestine. He was a graduate of the London University (LL.B. ) and a Barrister at Law of the on our able Society of Lincoln's Inn, London. He was a member of the Palestine Bar and a member of many Bar associations in the Arab World.

He represented the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine in New York City 1947-1948. He was a Representative of The League of Arab States in Latiin America, with an office in Buenos Aires, Argentina 1956-1957, with the rank of Minister Plenipotentiary."

They call names and degrade people in IW , while the whole time * they remind other people from different religions about THEIR own religion's short comings or they accuse them of hypocrisy when they do not say what they preach "'

Who is * not *****looking in the mirror***********MIRROR !!!

IF ONLY MUSLIMS COULD LOOK AND SEE HOW HYPOCRITICAL THEY SOUND ... IT SHOULD SHOCK THEM ..

the religion of peace telling the other religion of peace to be peaceful already ....................or else

peace!!!??? .............. :-X

The pastor is (allegedly) preaching the message of love, mercy and forgiveness.

On the other hand, he has openly admitted that he is "proud to be Islamaphobic".

I have not preached anything to anyone. All I have done is made clear to most of the kuffar dogs that they do a good job of making a complete fool of themself........just like you have done.

Peace.

They call people, all kind of names after animals like ................ dogs and pigs

the same dogs and pigs that supposedly Allah created ... from his merciful hands [ Not]

Allah must be stupid Allah ...to hate some animals that IT made and tell us to not touch them and hate to the point of cuss using their names

Muslims makes me laugh ... until they try to kill someone like they have been doing every day then it is not funny any more ... it is just disgusting.

X

They leave Islam.....

They try to have a life.....

They continue to dedicate their life to Islam.....

They continue to ask questions about Islam....

They can't detach themselves from Islam....

They are Sad and pathetic.

Mr Kahn< i am sure you realize that the Jewish - Christian relationship is much closer and in that the Christians (albeit few) are allowed to mingle the Jewish population. There has been many times issue made in public about the treatment of Arabs in Israel, many times. Your brush painted them with the statement " They all are dedicated to the Jewsih states destruction" but you know that is not true. I will say there is a large population of Arabs who are angry, being that their houses were torn down, their livelyhood of olive trees and farming plowed under and then a wall built between them and their land. Im certain even you with a level headed mind could see someone might be a tad be put off if it happened. What they do like about the Arabs is the cheap Labor, they love it. Having a captured population, that is too poor to survive on their own, makes for cheap labor at all those construction sites, this I know for a fact. In addition if you live in the West, would you be comfortable with say Cuba controlling your Water, Electricity, Gas, Heating oil, Food? Ask that honestly to yourself. The conflict is like a self energizing problem, one side claims theres and issue but then turns around and takes advantage of it. Its laughable at times but quite sad when you go to a large housing development there and the land on which they are building is being worked on by workers whose land it originally was....

there is a large population of Arabs who are angry, being that their houses were torn down, their livelyhood of olive trees and farming plowed under and then a wall built between them and their land.

Now why would those evil Jews do that? Are they just mean? What wall is between them and their land when they don't have any land?

You forgot to mention some of those pesky details like Israel has been under attack by these 'Muslim Arabs' since at least 1948..Another fact you overlook is the rockets fired by these Arab Muslims into Israel...From Wikidpedia...

'Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip have occurred since 2001. Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched...From the same sourse 680 in 2011...

That's not counting suicide bombers, shooters and stabbers...So Doctor it woulds seem it is a little more than some unhappy people who lost their olive tree's...Israel has a right to defend itself...

Israel was forced to build the wall to keep the Muslims from doing what Muslims all over the world do:
1. Riot over any pretext
2. Murder innocent civilians, including babies and small children
3. Wantonly destroy property
4. Launch suicide bombings in restaurants, on buses, in schools, etc.
5. Set fires and block roads and ambush travelers, etc.
6. Desecrate graves (use headstones for lattrines, etc.)
7. Demand revenge for imagined and faked wrongs
8. Seize any incident as a pretext for unrelated acts of violence and mayham
9. Throw rocks at cars, police, bystanders, etc.
10. Gundown people in their cars, at holy sites, in their homes, etc.
11. Launch rocket attacks at cities, school buses, vacationers, etc.
And much, much more!!!
Islam is a bullying, sadistic, supramist military organization calling for open-ended WAR against ALL unbelievers, and especially Jews.

Besides Muslims, the Judea and Samaria areas also contain Christians, the original inhabitants, who are being persecuted and driven out by the invading Muslims. That's right, I said invading Muslims. Most arrived in the 1920s driven out of Arabia by the Saudis during their massive land grab (it's all about the oil money!). Even the emir of Makkah, Abdullah I, was driven out. He and his people, the Hashemites, were allowed to settle in what is now Jordan.

You need to get an education that isn't biased by the so-called Palestinians. BTW, there is no P sound in Arabic, so they are calling themselves Filastins.

Duh said:

From Wikidpedia...

'Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip have occurred since 2001. Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched...From the same sourse 680 in 2011...

So he has used Wikipedia to make a point about attacks on Israel.

Check this article:

http://islam-watch.org/index.p...&Itemid=58

where he made the following comment on 24th Feb:

Wikidpedia is not a good source of reliable information loopy

This is what you call a true hypocrite who has been well and truly boxed in by his own foolishness. 10/10 for shooting yourself in the foot.

Duh my brother made a very good point, you choose to reference certain items when they fit your argument whether they are valid or not. The Wikipedia point is mostly likely one of many issues with the statements youve presented. Copying and pasting is quite easy to do and requires no knowledge of the topic at hand.

I used Wickipedia simply because it was on the top of the page...I thought you guys loved Wikidpedia.. if you think these numbers are wrong, state your source...otherwise making me the subject is obfuscating...Address the issue...
Which in this case rocket and terror attacks on Israel...

Basically sweet guys, I don't need your endorsement, or approval, and your distraction from the issue falls on deaf ears...

I doubt very much anyone is endorsing you, what they were doing was presenting a fact where you have jumped all other people in the past, but then use the same source. No one said you obfuscating (which I think is your favorite word to use) rather that you were pretending to have a certain said of beliefs but your actions in turn belied those beliefs (ie. hypocrite). I believe the last time I checked rockets have flown on both sides, yet only on one side has Tanks, Fighter Planes, Attack Copters, Sea to Air missles have flown, just thought I would point that out.

One more thoughtful poem "Convince an enemy, convince him that he's wrong. To win a bloodless battle, the victory is long. A simple act of faith, reason over might. To blow up his children would only prove him right." by Gordon Sumner

"They all are dedicated to the Jewsih states destruction."

Don't invent lies. Those are not my words. Nearly 90% of the Palestinians as of 2003-2004 polls expressed desire to annihilate Israel. That makes them, collectively, a people, committed to Israel's destruction.

i am sure you realize that the Jewish - Christian relationship is much closer and in that the Christians (albeit few) are allowed to mingle the Jewish population

That's not true. History tells a very different, indeed the opposite story. Inventing lies won't help you. Even Christians of Palestine had joined hands with the Muslim Arabs against the creation of the Israeli state. They have now recognized who are their real enemies and stopped opposing the existence of Israel.

There has been many times issue made in public about the treatment of Arabs in Israel, many times.

If that is the case, why that has not been made the reason for branding Israel as racist state. There are problem that Muslims cannot live in Jewish quarters; neither do Muslims allow Jews to live in Muslim quarters. This is mutual thing and the government doesn't interfere in this matter. Israeli law allows any of its citizens to live anywhere.

I will say there is a large population of Arabs who are angry, being that their houses were torn down, their livelyhood of olive trees and farming plowed under and then a wall built between them and their land.

Palestinians are not angry; they want the destruction of Israel and extermination of the Jews living their. And this has nothing to do with destruction of their homes and farms. Only recently some Palestinians have shown willingness to recognize Israel. A greater number of them sought Israel's destruction even before the Israel occupied Gaza and West Bank, and engaged in destruction Jewish homes, aimed at preventing terrorism or punish perpetrators of terror acts.

Your Correct here are your exact words "Palestinians are not part of the state of Israel, but a people dedicated to the Jewish state's destruction" Being that Palestinians are those living in Palestine, your indication of saying "a people" inlcudes all Palestinians. So while my words might have been off in sentence structure, your words have the same meaning, ALL. As for the poll, what Poll, who took this Poll? Please let me know as I am interested in seeing it for myself.

Secondaly are we talking about the relationship of christians and jews 100's of years ago or today? The article is in the present tense not from 100's of years ago. So while you accuse me of lying, I am stating the present day on the ground fact. However that being said, if you have ever spoken to the Christians who live there you will find they too are also blocked from certain areas and activities, its a fact if you have ever been there is quite in the open to see.
Your third point I would reference Durban 1 or it might have been Durban II , attended by many governments as well as NGOs which commented and discussed and I believe branded Israel as such. (you can probably google the details)
I will agree to disagree those that I know personally want to live in peace, on their land and these are people who live outside of the 1967 Borders not inside. Many have been pushed off their land, it taken away so yes they have some anger but would rather live, eat and enjoy life than fight constantly. For you to blanketly say they are not angry is quite amazing, Im guessing you would question the American Indians and why they are angry as well?
As I have said both sides have faults, neither will get their way 100% and that is a fact.

Think modern day Israel is the`Abomination of Desolation`.That means the last days.

Here’s the accurate poll results: According to a poll, conducted by the Najah University in Nablus, 87.5% Palestinians expressed their desire to conquer all parts of Israel. (Source: Thomas Friedman, New York Times, March 18, 2002)

Did it ever occur to you that I don't care what you or your brothers think?...You turned a fair question into a bashing session on me, without addressing the subject at hand...That is called 'obfuscation'...You own it...As far as hypocrisy, you and your brothers M&P and rzq, take the prize...You have no room to criticize others...

I don't see where you or your brothers addressed the issue of about 9000 rockets fired into Israel by your Muslim brothers..,.And you did not address another question about the 100,000,000 Hindus murdered by Muslims...

Why do you duck these questions sweet man?

I don't see where you or your brothers addressed the issue of about 9000 rockets

This is what Duh said to Malem:

From Wikidpedia...

'Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip have occurred since 2001. Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched...From the same sourse 680 in 2011...

So he has used Wikipedia to make a point about attacks on Israel.

Check this article:

http://islam-watch.org/index.p...&Itemid=58

where he made the following comment on 24th Feb:

Wikidpedia is not a good source of reliable information loopy

Sort yourself out......

Duh, I am sure that you are versed in English and its uses. A statement not matter how untrue, is not a question at least in a pure grammatical form. As for your claim of 9000 rockets the discussion would have to be around the totality of those also coming from the other side, bullets, rockets, chem weapons etc.. As I have state before there is fault on both sides so warring with each other constantly does nothing to solve the underlying issues. Your claim of 100000000 Hindus, you have no accurate numbers nor any proof do you for that exact number? for each crime?

No Malman Doctor so sweet, you are not telling the truth and obfuscating again...One more time for your education sweets...Muslims attacked Israel 'first' in 1948, and have been attacking Israel ever since on a daily basis, and everyone of Israels return attacks have been in retribution of attacks against it...You cannot cite one Israeli counter attack that was done for no reason but meanness...Israel has a right to defend itself...If you don't like the way they do it, too bad...

You can look up the number of murders by Hindus in India yourself it's established history...An estimated 80/100 million...I used the bigger number because if is probably more accurate..It is not necessary to know the circumstances of each and every one, or exact numbers...the estimated number of those slaughtered speaks for itself....Islam kills, and often in large numbers...Your further obfuscations and denials will fall on deaf ears, you cannot rewrite history with superficial brush offs, or a wave of your hand......You have dear sweet Doctor established your non credibility...And you continue to believe in fairy tales...isn't thatm just too precious?