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I wholeheartedly support those who struggle for freedom in the Islamic world. The Arab, Turkish, Iranian, Pakistani, and Indonesian people have tremendous potential. If they could liberate themselves from the yoke of Islam, if they would stop taking Muhammad as a role model, and if they get rid of the hateful Koran, they would be able to achieve amazing things.

Dear friends,

I am happy to be in New York again, even though in my country today it is Queen’s day, a national  celebration. This is why I am wearing my orange tie.

Thank you, Nina, for organizing this event and giving me the opportunity to address all of you. It is always good to be among friends. It is an honor to be here in the presence of so many people who care for the preservation of freedom in our civilization.

It is great to be in America, the beacon of liberty, the land of the free, the land where people are still allowed to speak freely. I know what I am talking about. I was acquitted after a legal ordeal that lasted almost 3 years. I had been brought to court for criticizing Islam.

Though at the end of the day I was acquitted, the court case had been a disgrace. It was a time-, money- and energy-consuming nightmare. This charade that happened in the Netherlands for the last few years  could not have happened in your great country, where the First Amendment guarantees people the freedom to express their opinions.

The first Amendment is what we need in the Netherlands and Europe.

I am in New York for the release of my book “Marked for Death”. It explains why Islam is the largest threat to freedom which the world is currently facing. It argues why Islam is a totalitarian ideology rather than a religion. It reveals how Islam has already profoundly changed Europe in the last decades. It exposes the cultural relativism which has affected Europe so deeply that many in Europe refuse to stand for liberty and prefer to appease Islam.

As you know, people who speak out like myself and I pay a steep price for speaking these truths. Apart from legal attempts to silence me, there are also the threats by radical Muslims to kill me. I have been living under permanent police protection for almost eight years now. People like me pay this price for speaking the truth about Islam. But I do not regret one word. I see it as my duty to warn the West.

I have traveled widely in the Islamic world. I have read the Koran. I have studied the life of Muhammad. It made me realize that Islam is primarily a dangerous ideology rather than a religion. This is the truth. This violent ideology wants to impose Islamic sharia law on the whole world, including us the Kafirs, the non-Muslims. This inhumane ideology is also outspokenly anti-Semitic.

This ideology also harms Muslims. Islam believes that everything men have to know can be found in the Koran. As such, it is hostile to all forms of innovation. But without innovation there can be no progress and people cannot prosper.

Many people unfortunately are blind to the true nature of Islam. They are blind because they do not realize what Islam is and mistakenly believe that it is a religion just like any other religion.

I have written my book to inform them.

Islam fails four major tests that religions should fulfill:

1. Adherence to a religion must be a personal choice;
2. No religion should demand that those who leave it be killed;
3. A religion must never mandate the subjugation of those who do not belong to it;
4. A religion must be in accord with basic human rights.

I have also written my book because I am not a defeatist. The West is able to defeat totalitarian Islam just as it defeated Nazism and Communism in the past.

My book is dedicated to freedom. It is inspired by many freedom fighters, from previous generations but also people from our age. As it happens, two people, whom I refer to in the book, are present in this room here today: Andy Bostom and Ibn Warraq.

Fortunately, we are not alone in the fight for freedom. We are in the company of heroes and friends. This gives us the strength to continue.

In order to defeat Islam so, we must do four things.

The first and most important is to speak the truth, always and everywhere also about islam. Like the Americans, the people in the Netherlands and other European countries desperately need a First Amendment.

That will allow them to tell the truth about Islam and Muhammad. In doing so we will expose this dangerous ideology and its founder. We must encourage Muslims to leave Islam and to choose for freedom and prosperity.

Secondly, we have to believe in the superiority of our Western values. If we do not believe in our own Western values, we will not be prepared to defend them. That is why we have to end the biggest disease in the world today, the cultural relativism which pretends that all cultures are equal. This is simply not true. Our Judeo-Christian and humanist civilization is far superior to any other civilizations like the barbaric Islamic civilization. We should not be afraid to say so. It is more free, more democratic, more tolerant than any civilization the world has ever seen.

Thirdly, we must stop the Islamization of our societies, by restricting immigration from Islamic countries, and expelling those who violate our laws and commit violence. If you respect our laws you are welcome to stay; if you don’t you do not belong here and we will send you packing.

And fourthly, we must reassert our national identities. The nation-state enables self-government and self-determination. This insight led the Zionists to establish Israel as the homeland of the Jews.

Zionism teaches us one of the most important lessons which the modern world needs today. Theodor Herzl argued that a Jewish state would facilitate “a new blossoming of the Jewish spirit.” Today, we need our own respective nation-states to preside over a new blossoming of our own Western spirit.

Our nations are the homes in which freedom and democracy prospers. This is true for the Netherlands. This is true for America. This is true for Israel.

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. It is a beacon of freedom in an unfree region, a beacon of life in a place of darkness. If Israel falls, the West falls.

Mothers in the West can sleep safely because Israeli mothers at night worry about their sons in the army. Their fight is our fight. We should support it.

Israel is, indeed, a vital outpost of Western civilization. That is why Islam conditions the faithful to hate the Jewish state and to view its destruction as an imperative. It is our duty to stand with Israel.

All these arguments are made in my book, in which I also explain how we can defend freedom and oppose Islamization and cultural relativism in a non-violent and democratic way. In fact, that is what my party, the Party for Freedom, is doing in the Netherlands.

When I began to speak out against Islam 10 years ago, two things happened. Extremist Muslims from the Netherlands and all over the world marked me for death, but Dutch people came to me to express me their support. In 2010, we became the third biggest party in the Netherlands. Though the PVV did not become a coalition partner in the Dutch government, for almost two years we supported a center-right minority government in return for measures to roll back Sharia in Holland, stop the Islamization process, and counter cultural relativism.

The Dutch government even had the audacity to speak out against the powerful OIC, the Organisation of Islamic Conference. The OIC is an international organization of 57 Islamic countries, most of them barbaric tyrannies.

This OIC constitutes the largest voting bloc in the United Nation. It had criticized the fact that Dutch judges had acquitted me of all charges in my court case. But the Dutch government made it clear to the OIC that freedom of speech will not be muzzled in the Netherlands. It told the OIC very bluntly: “The Dutch government dissociates itself fully from the request to silence a politician.” Never before had a European government had the courage to confront the OIC in such a forceful way.

Unfortunately, last week, the Party for Freedom decided to end its support for the government. As you can imagine, this was a difficult decision for us, given the many things also on the subject of islamization that we were still to achieve. Unfortunately, however, previous Dutch governments – as governments elsewhere in Europe – have signed away a significant part of our own sovereignty to the EU, the European Union, a supranational institution run by unelected and undemocratic bureaucrats.

The EU controls our borders and decides over most immigration rules. The EU also imposes a policy of austerity on our country.

When the government, in order to comply with the EU rules, decided to raise taxes and slash the budget at the expense of the citizens rather than by trimming the government, my party had no other option but to bring the government down and we did so last week.

We are now heading for elections, which will be held on September 12th. Our electoral campaign will focus on the need to restore our national sovereignty, because without our sovereignty we cannot defend our identity and fight against islamization.

My friends, we continue our efforts. Our opponents have not been able to bully me. They have not been able to silence me. They shriek and yell, but we will never give in. One of my favorite presidents Ronald Reagan once said: “The future doesn’t belong to the fainthearted.” Reagan was right. The future belongs to us.

In 2008, I released Fitna, a documentary about the true message of the Koran. Tomorrow, I release my book. I wrote it to inform people and also to encourage freedom loving Muslims to leave Islam. And to see islam for what it really is.

I wholeheartedly support those who struggle for freedom in the Islamic world. The Arab, Turkish, Iranian, Pakistani, and Indonesian people have tremendous potential. If they could liberate themselves from the yoke of Islam, if they would stop taking Muhammad as a role model, and if they get rid of the hateful Koran, they would be able to achieve amazing things.

As I say in my book – my message to them, to all the muslims all over the world, is clear: “Fatalism is no option, Insh’Allah is a curse; Submission is a disgrace. Free yourselves. It is up to you.”

I receive hundreds of emails from all over the world. From people in Islamic countries, and from people in Western countries begging for help. They, too, want to fight for freedom and stop the Islamization process. We have to advise and help.

I leave you with another Reagan quote: "We need to act today, to preserve tomorrow." Indeed, my friends, there are so many things which we can do. Things which we must do. But we can do them only if we can count on each other. You can count on me. I spoke, I speak, I shall continue to speak. I hope I can continue to count on your support.

We are fighting for the future of our children, the survival of the Western spirit, the preservation of our liberty and democracy, our Judeo-Christian and humanist heritage.

We must be brave and save our heritage and our own constitution. The West is in danger, but we can still prevail. Even when we are insulted, even when we are harassed and intimidated, even when we are marked for death – we must stand up for our values, tell the truth and never ever be silenced.

Thank you.

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written by vbv , May 04, 2012

I whole heartedly support the sause taken up by Mr. Wliders. Islam is a poison that destroys civilisations and brainwashes the converts to make them zombies and subservient to the arabs. It is an arab supremacist cult. What supremacy the arabs can claim defies all logic , because their contribution to human civilisation is almost nil or insignificant compared to the greeks,indians,chinese, korean, romans, celts, mayans, aztecs,etc.It is a cult of bandits,rapists , murderers, looters., nothing constructive and civilisation building. Pakistanis look up to the arabs as the root of their civilisation ignoring the truth that they have a common ancestry with the hindus of the indian subcontinent and they are ethnically the same as indians. Islam has poisoned their minds so much that they loathe and have utter contempt for their own hindu heritage and a deepseated hatred for the hindus fostered by the centuries of indoctrination that they have an arab ancestry and nothing in common with the hindus. That is the crux of the socalled "two nation" theory of the muslims in the indian subcontinent. Mohenjendaro and Harrappa has nothing to do with the arabs and it is atleast 3000 years older than islam,and these idiots are in denial of these facts. Hence the perpetual animosity aginst India and exporting islamic terrorists causing bloodsheds ,bombings etc.And that is why Pakistan is retarded and receding to the dark ages with mad mullahs and islamists calling the shots and their spineless politicians looking the other way inspite of all the destruction all around them. Such is the poison of islam that it can never tolerate any other philosophy and progressiveness that will break the shackles of arab-slavery. This is more so because of billions of dollars arabs are spending to spread this poison,especially Saudi Arabia.

islam give freedom to all
written by mohammed idrees , May 04, 2012

islam is great and lovly those who think bad about it they are shatan the evil of islam
who ever you are i will be happy to see u in hell
may allah give his blessing to you to convert to islam and become muslim and feel the freedom

so typical islamic
written by annad , May 04, 2012

Another Mohamed and another curse to all "others". We in civilazed world have a saying - "do not do onto others who you don't want for yojself". It would help Muslims to learn it and apply it to their everyday life. Mohameds- all you can do is curse nonmuzlims. What if all of us curse you Muslims? You wish us go to hell? And where are you now? Islam is hell. And even your so called paradise is Satan inventure; so indisent and base as it is; catering to the most primitive needs of savages. You think you will get there after your death? You wish.

Mohd idrees
written by Mozambique , May 04, 2012

My friend first of all you should free yourself from Arabs religion and Arabs slavery. Go back to your own culture and be proud of your own culture and civilization rather than be slaves to the most laziest people on earth. You are even forced to pray to god in a foreign language..shame on you.

Muhd idrees
written by Mozambique , May 04, 2012

You are forced to pray to god in a foreign language...shame on you for calling it freedom..you even don't know the meanings of freedom.

what kind of freedom in islam?
written by annad , May 04, 2012

Be killed if you leave it? The only freedom there is be free from life. Truly savage death cult.

Mohammed Idrees
written by fineliving56 , May 04, 2012

Yoru post is a fine example that tells of illogical thinking a Muslim mind house …

Please Ask your self as I ask you …

1 … Why would YOU be Happy when you see people burn in hell …sadistic act no human who claim to be peaceful following his or her Islam that claims it is peaceful … contradiction!?

2 …. When you say I will see you in hell …. does that mean you will visit and mingle or you will stay with us burning … for ever and ever until your skin peels off your bones like Allah the merciful God [ lol] described in ITS merciful Quran … in so many ways ??

3 …. Why would you want a freedom of people you will be happy to see in Hell burning ??

It is perfictly clear that Your Quran's endless contradiction transferred it self to your brain and to all Muslims brains and YOU all became contradictory

The diffrence between you and us is … we will never wish on you to be in any hell [ that if it excited which it does not ] …

Do you get it ?

I am missing reed wilson the idiot islamist
written by pugo , May 04, 2012

hahahahaah:):):):):))::):)):):

Pugo
written by fineliving56 , May 04, 2012

You know who has been really missed ? ...is Duh swami …

He had been one of the reasons, I kept coming back to read … he has such a simple and unique way of coming across that even me an English as second language person could understand perfectly .

May be he will come back since the Muslims that shamed and exposed their intent has been terminated for their continued personal abuse to other commentators .

NO Isaiah 42:13 does NOT say
written by Yibel , May 04, 2012

(13) ALLAH will go forth like a mighty man, He will rouse up His zealous indignation and vengeance like a warrior; He will cry, yes, He will shout aloud, He will do mightily against His enemies.

It says (in the original Hebrew) YHVH will go forth.....

Allah is a moon god of southern Arabia, imported from Thebes (present day Luxor) in Egypt. Ah, the Egyptian moon god, is NOT the same as the Judeo-Christian G_d, YHVH. Ah was an ancient calendar god that reconciled the lunar months to the solar year. His symbol was the solar calf.

Note: In Exodus, Moses destroyed the golden (solar) calf because it was NOT the god that brought the Israelites out of slavery/bondage to the Egyptian Pharaoh.

John 16(13) But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes...

The Spirit of Truth is NOT a human being, and certainly NOT Muhammad Qutham the great con man of Arabia.

Isaiah 21(13) is about the fall of the Arabs. It is a dire prediction from YHVH:
(17) And the remainder of the number of archers and their bows, the mighty men of the sons of Kedar, will be diminished and few; for YHVH has spoken it.

alex (or whoever you are) you don't know the Hebrew scriptures. Muhammad Qutham's so-called religion is NOT reasonable. He is no one, and his fake religion is not rational.

And Islam is NOT from Paran (which is in the Sinai desert) but from Makkah, Saudi Arabia, about 1000 kilometers to the south.

(12) Let them give glory to YHVH and declare His praise in the islands and coastal regions.

@mohammed idrees
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 04, 2012

"You will spend all eternity in shwaaodhh."

Well you could ask me to PROVE shwaaodhh" is REAL. Of course I can not because I just made it up. When MuuahamMAD went up to the 7 heavens (a concept common in his day) he made also a visit to hell, among other things he saw women hanging with hooks in their breasts. Now no trace of this hell was ever found.

What I'm saying is that you have a profeet who could never in his life provide evidence that his stoned-gawd really spoke to him, well not directly but that a Angel came to him. A gawd who is larger than the universe but needs a tiny stone in Mecca to be worshiped. Ah the stone is not the object of your faith you say? Well then why NOT stopping praying 3 times (Quuraan only Muslims) or 5 times daily facing that direction? If this "gawd" hears all, then it would not matter in which direction one recites the foolishness which is Islamic "recitals"...

Do you hold the view that the Day of Doom (Judgment Day) will be 50.000 years long as some Muslims seem to believe?

mohammed idrees
written by vbv , May 05, 2012

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! What an ass uou are ? Sending people to some socalled "Hell" for criticising and exposing the fraudulent cult that is 'islam' and its fraudulent moron of a founder in the 7th century AD called Muhamad. We all know that there is no heaven nor Hell . All this a figment of human imagination. Just like the concept of "god" which is also the invention of scheming scoundrels, frauds and deluded idiots. If there is a spook called god/allah/yahweh,etc ,why doesn't it show itself before all humanity ? Especially the monotheistic spook is very elusive ( obviously , it does not exist) and communicates only with certain madcaps/criminals and its chosen cronies . All the threats issued by this spook is only through its agent scoundrel. All the wars, rapes, massacres plunders are conducted by these scoundrels with their partners in crime with hordes of deluded idiots( not different from the modern day suicide bombers and other indoctrinated idiots) for the glory of this monotheistic spook called "allah/yahweh". Allah and Yahweh never fought a battle directly - though these are nothing but some kind of tribal war-gods that have an extremely bad temperment,vicious attituide, extreme jealousy, vengefulness and narcissistic. These spook have no morality or any spiritual values , but just base instincts of the most vindictive,vicious despot . And thsi spook was born in the arid deserts of west Asia , the morality just as bareren as the topography and the extreme weather of west Asia.. All these spooks do is breathe fire and brimstone ( I mean figuratively) with threats in every word put in their mouths by the scheming scoundrels who authored all the socalled "holy books". The spooks call for inhuman punishments, deaths, tortures, and enslavement on "infidels" or nonbelievers , yet this monotheistic spook called Allah/Yahweh is supposed to be "all merciful" ! what a big fraud this is ! Indeed the biggest scam in the history of human civilisation, for this cult is responsible for the destruction of many great civilisations; it thrives on fear and superstition of some imaginery "hereafter" , and it is illogical, irrational and barbaric. So Idrees come out of your delusion and try to live in a world of real peace, prosperity and freedom. Come out of the shackles of iognorance and darkness that stunts your mind to think and question. It is indeed a pity that if you still want to live a deluded life ,spreading misery and fear in the hope of a socalled "hereafter" that offers you only base things as wine and 72 "virgins" that you can molest, rape and sodomise for eternity: nothing can be baser than that, nothing can be farther away from true spiritualiy than that and nothing can be more false than that.

Muslims on Muslims savage killings In Syria … anyone surprised ?
written by fineliving56 , May 05, 2012

The main Subject here is the hated Islam … sorry to veer from the subject of the Article, but it is about the same subject … it is in the same culture where Islam, was born and it is the product of the same sick and demented Mentality .

I sow a video recoding of a Syrian military men in uniform ….

[ I recognized their Shiites accent, a proof to me it is authentic … Apparently ...what is happening these days in Syria …is that some Sunnis Syrians are trying to fool people by wearing, military uniforms and act out like they are committing fake killings to make people think the Shiites are doing the crimes … by the way both sides are doing the same fake acts to fool the world … What a bunch of morons

Anyway …

That video I sow … shows these men circling a hole in the ground with a man stuffed in the dirt up to his nick … begging for his life,screaming using words from Du'ai [ prayer] ....trying to bring out the famous mercy these men's Islam is famous with [ liars … exactly the opposite ]

Like.. Allah uowafiqokom [ Allah make you succeed ] … min sha' illah twaqfu [ for the sake of Allah ..stop ] … Allah ukalli awladikom …[ Allah will save your children ]

Of course, the military men were making fun of him … kicking his heads with their boots … and throwing dirt on to head, using the shovels in their hands …

Then the ecxpected thing happened …. when all of the men shovled enough dirt on his face to suffocate him and silence him for ever … the men of course, died … all filmed and docomnted for all of us to see …. THE MUSLIM MERCY IN AAACTION

It looked and sounded like … ragem [ stoning but not for adultery or witchery like others in Islam were stoned for … no it was not …it was for the crime of being born to another sect of Islam …

love … huh !!!???

Buried al live
written by fineliving56 , May 05, 2012

I wrote about a video that documents the killing that is happening in Syria by the Shiites military

this video, is about the stoning of a man who begged for his life … while he was buried alive in a hole in the ground … Islamic stoning style …

I hope it will be posted … it is a slice of heaven on earth that is in Islamic land called … Syria

Islam is a horror story
written by Max , May 05, 2012

OIC in my book stands for "organization of international criminals". Wilders is abosultely right in what he stands for. I am not an European, but I respect the right of every European state to live by their traditions and culture. They have contributed so much to civilization, and why should it all be drowned out by a system of beliefs, concoted by madman called Mohammed. We are now living in a global village, and as time goes on our lives will be even closer. Islam is and will be a stumbling block for closer intergrtion of world communities. Europeans with their heads burried in sand have to wake up to this menance. The total muslim population of the world is about 1.3 billion. Non-muslims are about 5 billion. It is time to act now before it is too late. There are many other religions in the world, Hinduism, Buddhuism, Janism, Shintoism, Judaism or Taoism. Why is Islam the only religion that the rest of the world find unacceptable?

To fineliving56
written by Yibel , May 05, 2012

This one's for you...

written by duh_swami, March 03, 2012

Reading the Quran is a lot like reading Alice in Wonder land...Islam is not Wonderland, but Muslims think so after they eat the hallucinogenic mushroom called Shahada...Instead of the Mad Hatter they get Mohammad, Allah is played by the Red Queen, who says, 'off with their heads', and 'I love executions in the morning'...Some ancient Arabian ate some strange mushrooms and fell down a rabbit hole, the Quran is a record of his hallucinations...

Yes, the great swami is missed!

Yibel
written by fineliving56 , May 05, 2012

yes, that one is one the best … thanks for the reminder … and he had many like it … his talent for words has talent … haha

'' Mushroom called Shahada '' …

'' the Quran is a record of his hallucination '' … hahaha …

that is remind me … I happen to think it might be a possibility for real that Muhammad had eaten these Mushrooms and he hallucinated Gabriel when he visited him and every time he ate them … he sow Gabriel again …

and finely when Muhammad hallucinated that he visited Allah up in the sevens level of sky [ Me'erage ] He must have eaten a whole sack of them for him to see Gabriel with 600 hundred of every part of him [ lol]

Anyway … I hope he will come back … but if he does not, I know he is continuing the resistance of Islam in some other avenue ..it is going to take a united effort to uproot Islam …..

Like you said .. the great swami is going to be missed

I appreciate your tremendous effort too … your well researched posts are important … you have a knack for paying attention to details and you have so much patience .. we all know how tedious working with a book like Quran

thanks .

Mushrooms et al
written by Infidel and More Proud , May 06, 2012

Probably Allah also has a taste of mushrooms...
The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, “I do not know how to read.” (The Prophet added), “The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, “I do not know how to read,” whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, “I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?).” Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, “Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous…up to….. ..that which he knew not.” (96.15)

stop islam before it stops human race
written by deshabhakta , May 06, 2012

it is high time every one comes out openly in support of this author

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written by leonidas , May 06, 2012

Geert Wilders truly deserves a big "Thank you" for taking the time and putting in the effort to inform us of the evil Islam is for our freedoms,Human Rights,Women Equality ,and the terror it practices for 1400 years on Muslims and Infidels alike!

Sura 96, the Clot of Blood
written by Yibel , May 07, 2012

Muhammad's First Revelation: According to Muhammadan historians - based only on unsubstantiated oral traditions - Muhammad used to seclude himself in a cave called (Hira) outside Mecca for meditation. It was during one of these meditations that he claimed he heard a voice commanding him:
Quran 96:1 " Proclaim thou in the name of thy Lord and cherisher who created, created Man from a congealed clot…."
The above revelation refers to the Mesopotamian/Babylonian god Marduk who created humans to be servants from the Clots of Blood of the great General Kingu after he slew him in battle.
The next line refers to another Babylonian god who became associated with Marduk:
96:2 "And thy Lord is most Generous, Who taught by the pen, Taught man
what he knew not." This is the Mesopotamian god Nabu/Nebo whose symbol is a
stylus. He took over many of Marduk's qualities during the Neo-Babylonian period.

Marduk was the god of 50 names, such as: The Young Bull of the Sun, Young Steer of Day, King of Heaven, Glorious Word of Power, Overseer who is Good, Guardian of the Four Quarters, Shepherd of the the Stars/Constellations, Lord of Life, Citadel of Prayer, Shepherd of the Gods, Master of Magic, Restorer of Joy to Humankind, The Lord of the Throne, Lord of Sirius, and The All-knowing.

But The All-knowing somehow forgot that he was dealing with an illiterate prophet. In order for Muhammad to read to his followers the will of Allah/Marduk, he first had to master the use of the pen, to read and write. But Muhammad was so busy collecting wives, raiding caravans, waging wars, and dispensing brutal justice, that he totally disregarded this very first instruction he received from his god and died without leaving behind a single manuscript with his own handwriting. And, because the people of central Arabia were illiterate, the Qur'an and aHadith were passed along by word of mouth through the generations, father to son - through chains of transmitters called isnads - from the sixth through eighth centuries (nearly 300 years).

The first and best aHadith, Sunnah, and Sira were compiled in Baghdad, not Makkah or Madina, two to three centuries removed from the events. And each of the Persian scholars wrote in a highly politicized climate for men with personal agendas. A compelling argument can be made for Islam being Persian rather than Arabian and the birthplace being Baghdad, not Makkah.

created from "blood" or some other "fluid"...
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 08, 2012

86:6-7 in various translations...

6.
AA He was created of spurting water
NQ He is created from a water gushing forth
PK He is created from a gushing fluid
SH He is created of water pouring forth,
YU He is created from a drop emitted-

7.
AA Issuing from (the pelvis) between the backbone and the ribs.
NQ Proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs,
PK That issued from between the loins and ribs.
SH Coming from between the back and the ribs.
YU Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:

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If allah was really the creator of man, would he not know how human semen was created, and MOST importantly that also the egg of a woman was equally as important to humans to reproduce? Why did he never ONCE speak about that? But all MuaahamMAD had to offer was the (often times) mistaken knowledge of his day and age. One can read a lot into the "creation account" of the OT, but the profeet made the mistake of making so many mistaken claims that his "Islam" can not be saved..... :-)

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written by stfu , May 09, 2012

your basically asking them to ditch their religion. That aint gonna happen okay!

stfu
written by fineliving56 , May 09, 2012

No that is not what we are asking …

We are asking for Muslim to open thier eyes and minds and their Book Quran and read it … read it ….understand it …

is that too much to ask from the Muslim Zombis ???

I guess it is …

@stfu
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 09, 2012

Well if they realize how FOOLISH their religion IS, what options do they have? Its like asking a grown up to continue to believe in a easter-bunny? Why hold on to a outdated concept of a deity which was proven wrong almost at the time of its conception? For example the vast majority of Meccans converted only because they did not want to lose their heads.... So if one REALLY NEEDS a faith in a creator there are other options on the market...:-) But what amazes me is the fact that Muslims allow other Muslims to LIE to them. Like in the case of my home-country, Austria, it did not happen that in the last 2 and half years half a million people converted to Islam, this misleading Video can still be found on You-tube.
If some Islam-critic tells a lie Muslims here are all over the person, but they do not mind being lied to by their fellow Muslims,or if they are disgusted, it seems it will not lead to questioning their religion. Sometimes I wonder how they can put aside the most blatant lies by MuahamMAD, and still belive he is a messenger from allah the demented stoned-gawd..... I pity those who are born into Islam, but I laugh at those who converted.....

Sahada, a filthy staement
written by Archpagan , May 09, 2012

Sahada, i. e. defining words of Islam, is the most immoral and filthy but legitimized statement in the history of mankind. 'There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger', does not sound like a holy message. Rather, it's a divisive claim, debunking other people's God and saintly gurus. We should say so in public discourses at the top of our voice. 'Political correctness', only serves the purpose of the jihadis. If we are to fight the bull, it should be taken by the horn.