www.islam-watch.org

It is too bad that people have to revert to the lowest form to communicate as was done above. The cartoon is quite racist. This same behavior was used in the early 1900's to characterize Africans, and later on Japanese and other races. One would think as a civilization you could move beyond such childish rude behavior, but I guess not. I would wonder should the cartoonist have done a racial charged cartoon of the Jewish people would it have made it in the Post, doubtful Mr Murdoch would not allow it, an rightly so. It serves no purpose other than to show how immature and foolish one is. Rather than discuss the surveillance issue, the cartoonist chose to derail the discussion and become a racist.

What race is Islam Pancho?

Well, as you know Pancho, Allah is a racist...He/it definitely prefers Arabs over every other race...He is an Arabic god, with an Arabic name, and Arabic 'messenger' with a message for Arabs in Arabia, the early Qurans were written in Arabic for Arabians...Mohammad said the Arabs were the best looking with the best hair...he referred to blacks as raisin heads...Are you a raisin head Pancho? So Pancho, while Islam is an equal opportunity religion, some Muslims are a little more equal than others...

".Mohammad said the Arabs were the best"

Duh also said "there is no Allah there is no Muhammad"

Don't waste your time with this fool Malem

Don't waste your time with this fool Malem

Are you telling your daddy Malman what to do mangy cur?

How disrespectful you are to your daddy brother...Malman can speak for himself, he does not need a mangy cur to do it for him...

Duh also said "there is no Allah there is no Muhammad"

There is no Allah, and you can't prove otherwise...Mohammad is dead, so he no longer exists...and may not have ever existed in flesh and blood, and you can't prove that either...

Webster`s dictionary-literary composition holding up to ridicule vice or folly at the times;use of irony,sarcasm.

I recall this --- Since science, by its very nature, is not capable of proving the non-existence of anything, one can never accurately claim that science has proven God doesn't exist. Science cannot do it because it uses the inductive method, not the deductive method.

The cartoon above lumps not just Muslims but Arabs mainly into a group and then falsely labels them. Whether you call it racist, Slander, Hate speech, Inflammatory speech...really doesnt matter. The fact is the person point was lost because of the tact he took to convey it. Very similar to when people start rambling and calling people names, instead of making a valid counterpoint as I did above.

proving the non-existence of anything, one can never accurately claim that science has proven God doesn't exist.

That's because it is impossible to prove a negative yer brilliance...Prove that I am not your true Nabi...You have to rely on belief only and that often fails miserably, because it is the product of a failed mind, a fake failure god, a failed messenger, and a failed ideology...You cannot prove Allah exists and all your reasonings are lame...

So it's fine with you if your master M&Perverted tells you what to do? He got that idea from hadith...When are you going to correct him? Are you afraid? Ashamed?

Malem, the cartoon is racist? Can you remind us again what race Islam is?

Duh you indicate "That's because it is impossible to prove a negative yer brilliance" I will spare going over the same opinion I have given you in the past about name calling so lets focus on " it is impossible to prove a negative ". Who says you cannot prove a negative? What about taking a real actual law of logic which is a negative, namely the law of non-contradiction. This law states that that a proposition cannot be both true & not true (nothing can be both true and false). Now you can prove this law. It can be formally derived from the empty set using provably valid rules of inference. One of the laws of logic is a provable negative. Hence that means we’ve just proven that it is not the case that one of the laws of logic is that you can’t prove a negative. So you’ve just proven yet another negative! In fact, ‘you can’t prove a negative’ is a negative (statements used with poetic license)

You state the following, in part:

"The cartoon is quite racist. This same behavior was used in the early 1900's to characterize Africans, and later on Japanese and other races."

The same behaviour against blacks was wrong, period.
The blacks were being hated and suppressed just because they were black.
That is and was morally reprehensible in every way. It was just totally wrong.
The difference you fail to understand is this: no black in those days ever had a history of calling for "Death to America" nor did they have any record of even attempting to kill innocent people or blowing up any American institution, building, aircraft, embassy, subway system, or any plethora of muslim terrorist acts world wide...
Nor did they have mosques all over the country teaching radical (or dare I say, "mainsteam"?) islam to crazy muslims.
A substantial difference I assure you.

To a lesser extent, the Japanese were looked upon unfairly, in hind sight.
It was wrong perhaps, but the difference between the Japanese and the blacks is that the Japanese did attack the U.S. at Pearl Harbour, as we all know...so it stands to reason that the Japanese would be looked upon with suspicion.
It was unfair, but understandable.
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You also state:
One would think as a civilization you could move beyond such childish rude behavior, but I guess not. I would wonder should the cartoonist have done a racial charged cartoon of the Jewish people would it have made it in the Post

Would you PLEASE give up this crap about RACE!!!!
Islam is NOT A RACE...one thing I've learned over the months of watching this site is that you are not stupid, Malem...so let's give up the "islam is a race" bullshit!!
Once and for all....PULEEEEZZE!!!

The fact that there are "home grown" terrorists remains...however, the caricatures depicted in the NY Post cartoon, do represent the way Arabs look...
they are semites....so are the Jews....in the cartoon, they could just as easily pass for Jews just as well as Arabs...and that's a fact.
The difference is also, Jews don't want to destroy America....BIG DIFFERENCE...GIGANTIC!!!

Just because all terrorists are Muslims does not mean all Muslims are terrorists.

Not all Muslims want to destroy America

Not all Muslims want to kill innocent people

You are familiar with the word extremist I take it?

Making fun or casting falsehoods and defaming any religious group or race is wrong. Because a few of many chose to behave in a way unbecoming of citizens of this world, does not mean you label all by that. That would like saying because Mr Madoff ruined the lives of many, his religious group should be shamed all together, which is wrong. You state "It was unfair, but understandable." so does that mean you can accept it because in your logic you have justified the unjustified behavior? Not sure I get your point there. Home grown is nothing new, its used mainly today in the west to steal many of the rights that were given to the people under your constitution. In fact Mr Obama signed a law that makes it ok to apprehend a US citizen without due process and imprison them for an undetermined amount of time with no notice to anyone. Now that sounds like some countries near me which frankly are dictatorships!

I will spare going over the same opinion I have given you in the past about name calling so lets focus on "

When are you going to give your foul mouth brothers the same opinion hypocrite liar...I pointed out your own transgressions on another thread...

Blah blah blah...who ever told you that you had a corner on philosophy, logic, superior knowledge, and that all your 'opinions' are superior? Haha... Don't lecture to me puke until you get real and quit lying about most everything...I don't give a rats azz what you think really...There is no Allah, there is no Mohammad, and the Quran is an evil tome, and you can talk a lot about it, but you can't prove squat...You are like the People of the Book, they believe a lot they can't prove either, but, like you that does not stop them from talking a lot about it...Religious supremacist bigots are the bane of humanity...How do you like being a bane?

Another post administrated...I'm not interested in your rambling explanations,
I know every bit as much as you do, and probably more about human mental mechanisms and how we relate to the world with them...As far as theory as to the cosmic doctrine, you are a babe in the woods...It would be haram for you to study such subjects...Allah is not logical and neither are you...Muslims are in no position to discus logic or reality, so you can keep your knowledge lecture for your brothers, I don't need it...Maybe that M&Perverted that you bow to could use it...

Oh ok, I see now. You are blaming the administrator for your mystery posts. Then you are claiming that you know more than I, then what is and what is not haram, and finally that I cannot discuss logic. Now that is quite a claim for you to make. I presented the case that indeed you can prove a negative, and your response was a few insults and some name calling? I would have expected more from you. Generally in life I have seen that those who boast to know more than others, dont.

Salaam Malem,

You are wasting your time with Duh. Maybe you will find out in your own way.....don't say I didn't warn you.

You will not be able to get any logic or sense out of him - this is usually the case with complete kn*bs.

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/2...obile.html

Muslim and Proud, wa laikum a salaam. My discussions with Duh ebb and flow, sometimes we have good intense discussions, sometimes I receive only name calling and vulgar insults but that is ok, I understand under which the comments are coming so there need to be much patience. My feeling is that if there is no one to present a counter viewpoint than you only have a one sided argument which aside from being unbalanced is frankly a bit boring :) Have a good day.

Salaam Bro

Nice link

"It is really worth looking at this document for a sense of how insidious it is when the government spies on and compiles files about innocent citizens. The report contains numerous maps identifying the locations of all mosques in Newark:"

Insidious indeed. The truth at last.

One good thing to come out of this NYPD situation is that at least now any Muslim who is searching for a local Mosque to pray at, can find one with this detailed map. Its always been an issue when visiting a new area and wanting a proper place to pray in, to actually find one. So while the overall program itself has a bitter taste, one can add some sugar and make it at least palatable.

That make 4...yes 4 responses to Malman the hypocrite grabbed by the administrater...yes Malman it is a mystery, but Allah is in control, and there is nothing I can do..so, I'm going to go and make a bacon sandwich and think of you while I eat it...

Bacon does sure smell good I will give you that! Wait a minute, didnt I recall you were a vegan? mmmm now that would have to mean that you were not telling the truth before. That is a shame, I did not see you as someone who would act in such a way, well hopefully you are having some veggies with that bacon.

Bacon does sure smell good I will give you that! Wait a minute, didnt I recall you were a vegan?

Yes you did as a matter of fact...I just forgot to inform you it is fake bacon called baco-bits...I always eat fake bacon while thinking of the fake god Allah and his equally fake disciples, called Muslims...it's the right thing to do...

Bro if you liked that report then you will love this. From the official nypd snooping reports on Muslims you can tell which is the best Muslim eaterie in new York state! When I go to new York next, I'm going to check some of these food places out! Thanks NYPD.

http://m.gawker.com/5887289/the-nypd-zagat-guide-to-newarks-best-and-most-threatening-muslim-restaurants

Over 280 million infidels were killed by the global jihad. Since 9/11, there have been over 18,000 jihadi attacks against infidels.

Taquiyya is not the truth.

Was intended for mature audience only.Don`t like it?Hit your remotes.

When I go to new York next, I'm going to check some of these food places out! Thanks NYPD.

Haha, fool, what makes you think they will let your ugly butt on a plane more less come to America?...Let me know when you arrive...I will meet you at the airport and show you the sites...

What sites would you show him, I am curious as I am coming to New York in June and would like to know what sites you are referring to that might be worthwhile to visit. Thanks!

[editor: Duh, avoid using the word "shoes" in comments. That word is blocked because of commercial add spammings.]

You are coming to America? Aren't you on the no fly list? You should be...If I knew your real name I would alert Janet Napolitano...She knows how to handle terrorists...Are you going to bring your wives with you? You all are going to be groped by kuffar TSA agents at the security areas... What are you going to do if they like it here and don't want to return to the sewer where you normally live?

The only site for you guys is the East River whose bottom is littered with cement shoes...You don't have to bring any cement shoes, they will be provided for you...

Duh is from Hicksville USA! Drinking hooch and howling at the moon the person knows nothing!

Duh is from Hicksville USA! Drinking hooch and howling at the moon the person knows nothing!

Awe, does that make you feel good little boy...Can you find hicksville on the map? Can you find America on a map? How ignorant you are small boy...

written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012

"Just because all terrorists are Muslims does not mean all Muslims are terrorists."
muslims don't have the market cornered on terrorism...there are other terrorists...but muslims use terrorism in the most extreme definition.
They are the only ones who use it with the sole intention of taking over the world. Others terrorists have local gripes and agendas that motivate them, but islam has world dominance as their "reason d'etre".

"Not all Muslims want to destroy America"
Arguable, but I'll give you that one...but what, I ask, are the rest of the muslims who don't want to take over America doing actively to challenge and condemn those radical factions who obviously do?
I say, they're doing nothing, and therefore, aiding and abetting the radicals.

"Not all Muslims want to kill innocent people"
It sure seems like most of them do.

"You are familiar with the word extremist I take it?"
I certainly am, so what are you and your ilk doing to combat thr extremists?
NOTHING!

written by Malem , March 01, 2012

You state "It was unfair, but understandable." so does that mean you can accept it because in your logic you have justified the unjustified behavior? Not sure I get your point there.

My point is this: At that time, in 1942, given all the circumstances, it was understandable.
Given the wonderful gift of hindsight, which we all now enjoy re: 1942, it might not have been fair. But at that time, it was the thing to do...and unless you or me were there, we shouldn't be too judgemental of the people back then.

Why Satan likes Islam?

It was said in the Islamic scriptures that when Allah asked all Angel to bow or prostrate to Adam Satan refuse to bow why? It was because he wanted the same to be done to him. The Bible says Lucifer (Satan) wanted to take the place of God he exulted himself above God and so God cast him down on earth and become the prince of this world.

In the Christian version it was not the first Adam that was to be bowed to but the second Adam the only begotten son of God who conquered Sin, Satan and Death that all Angel in Heaven and all human on earth to bow and worship him. Phil 2:9, Heb 1:6 when the demon possessed people see Jesus they are delivered from their demonic possession, demons tremble at the name of Jesus because they know him as their conqueror.

It will surprise you that preaching of the Quran does not make Satan to tremble rather the gather to hear it they got converted and become Muslims that was what the surah of Jinn’s tells us in Q72:3-4 Are you surprised why Satan like Islam and got his demon converted to Islam?

1.Satan like prostration, bowing down to him, the thing he coveted so much and Muslim do it to him free of charge, while he hid himself at the corner Kabba House of demons receiving all the praises and worship and is represented by a Blackstone.
2.The devil knows that it was because of him that God band prostration or bowing down to anything whether that thing is in heaven or earth visible or invisible Ex 20:4 but in Islam he got it freely 5 times daily and he make sure they face the direction of his house because the devil is not everywhere like God and they willingly obeyed, though ignorantly. So can you see why Satan and his demons are coverts to Islam?

Mr Pastor,

1.Satan like prostration, bowing down to him, the thing he coveted so much and Muslim do it to him free of charge, while he hid himself at the corner Kabba House of demons receiving all the praises and worship and is represented by a Blackstone

Do you still love muslims? And is this your way of guiding the towards the light?

You are a total failure Mr Pastor.

Why is it Christians have a problem with the act of prostration?

I am happy that you got the message go and search for the truth and the truth will set you free. The Pastor is not your failure. You are failure if you continue to prostrate to satan in the name of religion.

All evidences so far show that Islam is a ruse

Have a nice day

1. Abram fell face down, and God said to him. GENESIS17:3
2. When Abraham’s servant heard what they said, he bowed down to the ground before the LORD. Genesis 24:51-53
3. Then Joseph removed them from Israel’s knees and bowed down with his face to the ground. Genesis 48:11-13
4. Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped. Exodus 34:7-9
5. Then Moses and Aaron fell face down in front of the whole Israelite assembly gathered there. Numbers 14:5
6. “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the LORD I have now come.” Then Joshua fell face down to the ground in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord have for his servant?” Joshua 5:13-15
7. Jehoshaphat bowed with his face to the ground, and all the people of Judah and Jerusalem fell down in worship before the LORD. 2 Chronicles 20:17-19
8. When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the glory of the LORD above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the LORD, saying, “He is good; his love endures forever.” 2 Chronicles 7:2-4
9. Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.
1 Samuel 24:7-9
10. Ezra praised the LORD, the great God; and all the people lifted their hands and responded, “Amen! Amen!” Then they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground. Nehemiah 8:5-7
11. While he was saying this to me, I bowed with my face toward the ground and was speechless. Daniel 10:14-16
12. When the disciples heard this, they fell face down to the ground, terrified. Matthew 17:5-7
13. Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him. Mark 14:34-36
There are over thirty Biblical verses that range from Genesis to Revelation depicting the mode of prayer of the believers, which join us together in prayer.

“Why is it Christians have a problem with the act of prostration? “

Spontaneous prostration in true worship to the Almighty God is not bad

But not in a regimented and ritualistic way it is in done Islam, and it is towards a particular object not only to a Blackstone in Kaaba even if it is toward a wooden cross, or image made by human hands or the image fall from heaven is idolatry and it is forbidden in the Bible. Ex 20:4

If you obey God's commandment you will not fall victim of Satan devices as in the Case of Islam, which has internationalise Idol worship and make it an international business to the Saudis.
I know you do it in ignorant that you are worshipping God but in truth it is Satan that is getting the praise because God has not commanded that to be done to him. Even your scriptures say Allah only ask Angels to prostrate to Adam not to him. So why should you keep on doing something that is forbidden by God.

I am only saying this to you assuming you really want to worship and serve the true God of the universe but if it is Allah that you want to serve, the one the pagans of Saudi Arabia served before Islam , you can go ahead with your prostration and hajj business.

All those examples you sited as art prostration and worship are not in a Spontaneous way no pre arrange mode of worship and is done towards any direction that the spirit of God led you to worship him.

You see cannot do as those people you sited their example did. You cannot pray without facing the direction towards Kaaba the house of the blackstone, you cannot do that without ablusion (the ceremonial washing) You cannot do as they did without reciting some predetermined incantations invocking the spirit of Kaaba. So you see they are not the same art of worship.

" you can go ahead with your prostration and hajj business"

We do not require your approval. You have been exposed - I am sure you don't want me to remind you. On the other hand, if you have already forgot, I will not hesitate to humiliate you (again).

"if you have already forgot, I will not hesitate to humiliate you (again). "

Please I cannot remember the first time you humuliated me. At any case it is your scriptures and your prophet that is under trial here not me if you cannot longer defend your violent cult religion then you better quit like most of you do. If you remain here I will continue to expose your barbaric cult-scriptures. I am not here to pet you so that you continue to see yourself as if you are on the right track whereas you are heading towards destruction. God's will not allow me to keep quiet.

You expect me to say PBUH for Mohammed? God forbid bad thing. Even if Jesus has not come and have showed us the way to heaven and I am looking for a prophet to teach me the way of salvation should I go for a padophile, a pirate, a murderer, an assassin or a liar and demon possessed like Mohammed? Common use your brain well to discover the right way.

”We do not require your approval. You have been exposed - I am sure you don't want me to remind you. On the other hand, if you have already forgot, I will not hesitate to humiliate you (again)”

I cannot remember the first time you humiliated me when was that? At any case it is your scriptures and prophet that is at trial here not me. If you cannot defend your prophet and his Quran too bad.

If you have exhausted all your defends mechanism you better queit like some of you do here but I long as you remain here I will continue to exposed your cult beliefs system under the guise of religion.

"At any case it is your scriptures and prophet that is at trial here not me."

When did you lord and saviour put any scriptures and prophet on trial? You are a disgrace to your lord and saviour.

"If you have exhausted all your defends mechanism you better queit like some of you do here but I long as you remain here I will continue to exposed your cult beliefs system under the guise of religion."

When did your lord and saviour "expose" anybody Mr Pastor?

When did your lord and saviour expose any cult Mr Pastor?

Love thy neighbour as thyself.........as opposed to going around exposing your neighbour.

You're a fool pastor - I did warn you but you are determined to make a complete fool of yourself - again and again.

You're a fool pastor - I did warn you but you are determined to make a complete fool of yourself - again and again.

Coming from you perverted mangy cur, that is very funny...You continually make a fool of yourself...In fact you are very good at it...Your word trickery is a little rusty and squeaks a lot when you use it...giving away your true identity, Percival, the pure fool of the tarot cards...

Thank you Du-Swami, just leave me with this guys I will deal with them one after the other.

This one called Muslim and Proud which you named currectly named M& pervated is very abusive he calls everyone a aliar, who try to expose his prophet as if calling someone a liar is equal to a defends.

My problem with this two M&P and RZQ is that they are not as inteligent as Reed and Malem they are just here to further expose the ignorance of their religion.

My friend you are becoming saucy in your language. when we have just started exposing your Quran and have not gone anywhere yet.

That is not how you can defends your Quran and your Prophet. Calling someone a liar is not a defends give us proofs that your prophet was not pedophile, a womaniser, a mass murderer, a rapist, an assassin.

You like Jesus preaching of mercy compassion and love but you don't want to believe in him, you camped with a terrorist as your prophet. Why are you appealing to Jesus sermon now? Jesus wants to save you if only if you can repent and accept him as your lord and saviour.

I had many problems and lots of fun with Reed Wilson...I'm sorry he's not around to tell the two dummy's what he thinks of hadith...Malman could do it, but he won't...Malman likes correcting kuffar, but he never corrects his brothers no matter what they say...
These three Muslims remind me of the 'Three Stooges' I mentioned once before...Larry (rzq), Curly(M&P), and Mo (Malman)...
Malman is Mo because he was slightly smarter than the other two, but every bit the stooge...

Show us from the Bible where this God told his subjects that they must pray face down and a$$ up?In detail?

Basic biomechanics.
Generally when you prostrate and your head is touching the ground and naturally you fall into the posture!
Was there anything else????

"At any case it is your scriptures and prophet that is at trial here not me."

When did you lord and saviour put any scriptures and prophet on trial? You are a disgrace to your lord and saviour.

"If you have exhausted all your defends mechanism you better queit like some of you do here but I long as you remain here I will continue to exposed your cult beliefs system under the guise of religion."

When did your lord and saviour "expose" anybody Mr Pastor?

When did your lord and saviour expose any cult Mr Pastor?

Love thy neighbour as thyself.........as opposed to going around exposing your neighbour.

You're a fool pastor - I did warn you but you are determined to make a complete fool of yourself - again and again.

Keep blowing hot air with your fellow pagans.
It just adds to my amusement!

Where in Bible did this God give specific instructions to his followers that they pray in a certain why?

Pastor - Hypocrite and Liar...

Look who says that, the Islamic stooge Curly, also known as M&Perverted...

Well, I see two of the stooges for Allah are here, Larry and Curly...Mo must be sobering up from a night of Islamic debauchery...

Did you not read the above! When the prophets preyed they prostrated. Face down to the ground. Do you know of a better way to prey than the prophets???

Where in Bible does this God command his followers to pry in certain why?

"You see cannot do as those people you sited their example did. You cannot pray without facing the direction towards Kaaba the house of the blackstone, you cannot do that without ablusion (the ceremonial washing) You cannot do as they did without reciting some predetermined incantations invocking the spirit of Kaaba. So you see they are not the same art of worship."

Wrong again! I can say a prayer pretty much any place anytime any direction.
As far as supplication I have to that at certain times in a fixed direction and certain amounts during the day! House that Abraham built in honour of god!
Do you stand infront of your creator dirty???unclean skids in your pants and piss down your trouser leg? spirit of the Kaaba? That's a first please explain further!
You are correct it's a different worship!
Much better than yours!!!

"written by dead or alive , March 02, 2012
Where in Bible does this God command his followers to pry in certain why?"

Why did the prophets prey that way? They were doing gods will! If they preyed that way then do you know of a better way?

"Love thy neighbour as thyself.........as opposed to going around exposing your neighbour. "

why are you appealing to Jesus preaching here. defend your depraved message not Jesus message, no body has any problem with Jesus message which is centered on Love.

But your Prophet message of hate and retaliation has place in the 21st Century world. That is why we are here to rid you of that hate creed called the Quran.

Do you know of a better way to prey than the prophets???

Yep, sitting on the toilet...'Push the button pull the chain, there go's Allah down the drain'...I knew a kid who fell into an open sewer manhole, when they pulled him out he was covered in Allah...

Thank you Du-Swami, just leave me with this guys I will deal with them one after the other.

Course you will.......and this is how you will deal with us pastor:

Pastor the l*ar: "I took time to explain to you not because I have surplus time to spare but because I love you"

Pastor the hypo*rite: "I am proud to be Islamophobic"

By now, you should be proud to be a complete fool pastor.

To which prophet and verse in Bible did this God give instructions how they must pray?

Hadeeth,sahih Muslim 41/7/1302

Gabir said that he heard the wise and the knowledgeable Muhammad say :

The devil will come to you in everything you are doing, even when you are eating, if a morsel of food dropped on the floor from one of you [Muslims] all you have to do is WIPE IT with your hand from hurtfull dirt and EAT IT and do not leave it for Satan and when you finish eating, Just LICK your fingers [ my 7 stomachs are flip lopping in nauseating feeling ]
because we never know out all the food we eat all day, which morel of food is blessed by Allah [ THE BARACA] is located .

Oh my....

So ...not every morsel we eat is blessed ... that is good to know ... wisdem in its finest !!

So... if a food dropped on a dog poop all we have to do is wipe it with our hands ... that is very important ... poop comes off by wiping ... wow ... thanks Muhammad for this smart idea ... now why we did not think of that !!! !!

So... we are not supposed to leave any food for Satan ... even the food that on the floor ... But Allah ... you have no control of your creation ... Ok ... Ok ... Yes ... I know I am not supposed to ask questions ...

So ...we supposed to lick our fingers ... leave nothing to waist ... even when we do tayamom [means wipe hands on sand and do prayer ]... wouldn't all the germs from poop that on hands will just make us sick ... oh well ... as you say we will lick our fingers after eating ... but its dirty!!! ... never mind!!! Yes .. yes ... I will shut my mouth

Yaa ... Muhammad and Allah you are the wisest ...

As a kafir, you eat in the filthy dog dirt.

Muslims always eat on a clean cloth, therefore the food will only drop ON A CLEAN CLOTH.

It's never surprising how stupid these kafirs can be.........

Yes .. yes ... I will shut my mouth

That is good advice you are giving to yourself - well done.

"Wrong again! I can say a prayer pretty much any place anytime any direction.
As far as supplication I have to that at certain times in a fixed direction and certain amounts during the day! House that Abraham built in honour of god!"

That is where the devil got you. He must be happy at the above statement. Because you know the spirit behind the kaaba worship you would have jetition the nonsense away. As it is now the devil is receiving all the praises while the dead stone hung at the corner of the house of idolatry under the guise that Abraham worshipped there and in fact built it.

But do you know that you have know excuse on the last day if you keep on believing such open lies?

You probably thougth that when I come and say God bless you whatever say God bless, Godbless and I say ...........Mohammed (PBUH) that means I love you.

You don't know that an open rebuke is better than secret love? What I am doing here is a demostration of love. If I know I can get you and cane you to get rid of that hate creed from your head and liberate from the deceipt of the devil and save you I will do so.

Please don't think I here here to pet you becasue I know what the virus of Islam can do in a rational human being.

It attack such that you cannot think normal again evil become good in your sited. I believe if you are defend if you are given a chance you can defend the idolatry of Mohammed his padophilia, his polygamy, his crave for women and booty and his insatiable quest for power and worship. That is the effect of brainwashing.

It attack such that you cannot think normal again evil become good in your sited. I believe if you are defend if you are given a chance you can defend the idolatry of Mohammed his padophilia, his polygamy, his crave for women and booty and his insatiable quest for power and worship.

So now you are blatantly ignoring teachings of your Lord & Saviour by making absurd accusations?

There is a verse in the NT re judging people right?

Well done for making a fool of yourself....again.

"get you and cane you to get rid of that hate creed"

NT 14:26 - and now you are following the hate verse - remember the one that says you must hate everyone.....

In my tent I clean as much as I can with all the dirty flloors that you have in your tent ... how we suppose to pick food and eat from floor? ..

O prophet Muhammad ...in our tents we Arabs do not have Pine sol or disinfectant solutions, to kill germs .. how we going to kill the germ if we eat from floor that sticks on the food ...

what should I do ?

I can not think for my self ... I am only a Muslimah women with half brain to think with ....like you said in your Quran ?? ..
What's that ?... shut up!!

Ok ... Ok ... I will shut my mouth and my BRAIN ... Oh wise one ... Muhammad [PUOY] you think and we do and say ... like monkeys.

"NT 14:26 - and now you are following the hate verse - remember the one that says you must hate everyone..... "

What is NT 14:26? I can't remember anywhere the Bible say you should hate everyone like the Quran teaches in clear term not to love or forgive your enemy but retaliate and fight them.

I taught told you what Jesus meant by the word hate in those verses, that it meant supreme love for him above anyone else that faith in him will bring division in a home and even persecutio, which believers must be ready to face.

If you don't have any good defence for your hate creed called the Quran then you keep queit and we will know better.

"I taught told you what Jesus meant by the word hate in those verses, that it meant supreme love for him above anyone else that faith in him will bring division in a home and even persecutio, which believers must be ready to face."

Eh?

So in the NT, hate actually means love?

You are something pastor.

If I said the following to you:

When the noble Qur'an says "kill the infidel" it ACTUALLY MEANS KEEP THE ALIVE

You would certainly not be "that" stupid to accept
It.

It's a nice try on your part to say that the word hate actually means "supreme" love - that's priceless pastor, even by your standards.....

Nice try, but you failed, miserably.

When you lay out prayer rug,do you make sure you stick nose on same end of rug each time?

I like your questions...They are always, short simple. and easy to understand unless you are a Muslim, in which case you are confounded...

I asked rzq same question 4 times.Still no answer.Maybe rzq forgot to get feet washed and planted his nose in wrong end of prayer rug.

Do you always sh*t out of your ar*e......or does it sometimes come out of your mouth?

:-s

Do you always sh*t out of your mouth or does it sometimes come out of your ars*?

;-)

Ps. I hope duh likes this this short, simple and easy to understand question.

M&P and the rest of them may have a sense of humor?There still may be hope in reaching the `hopeless`.

Never lose hope. Remember what I said about playing the role of a juvenile - sometimes this is required - be it reluctantly.

Do you always sh*t out of your ar*e......or does it sometimes come out of your mouth?

Dead or alive is not a Muslim idiot...

Ps. I hope duh likes this this short, simple and easy to understand question
'Do you always sh*t out of your mouth or does it sometimes come out of your ars*'?

Well it certainly was simple...only a simpleton could come up with it...It is the story of your success as a Muslim, the apex of what Allah has made you...Good show...

If sh.t came out of my mouth?I would be feature story in The New England Journal of Medicine.But did read a story of a muslim man,and his name was,`Mr Bald Pubic`

It sounds like you are oblivious to the trends of the 21st century - aka MANSCAPING

http://www.maristcircle.com/mobile/bare-down-there-part-two-manscaping-1.2454036

"A 2009 study of adult men in Australia showed that 66 percent of straight men in the sample had removed their pu*ic hair."

"Among the men of the study who perform some sort of pu*ic maintenance, most of them agreed that the primary reason behind manscaping is to appear aesthetically pleasing to sexual partners. A 2005 collaborative study conducted by Men's Health and Cosmopolitan magazines on 2,000 straight women offered proof that a great number of women really are appreciating this effort, with a total of 96 percent of women expressing preferences for men who practice some degree of pubic hair maintenance (17 percent of these women prefer men who go completely bare down there)."

You need to get out more my friend.

Ps. This fashion was in 1400+ years ago for some of us ;-)

Only a perverted sex fiend would care...Got any little girls in mind for your next perverted act? Don't tell RZQ, he's jealous enough as it is...

The study i read said Muslim men grew all their hair on the face.But none down there naturaly.

Who conducted the study? Was it sponsored by the EDL by any chance?

Who conducted the study of sh.t coming out of mouth?Is it possible that stuff will come out of mouth instead of behind?

Sure it was the EDL, they study all kinds of things, witch craft, black magic, Satanism...even Wicca...never get too close to an EDL, their aura can jump five feet and possess you...Happens to Muslims in Yorkshire all the time...

"Who conducted the study of sh.t coming out of mouth?Is it possible that stuff will come out of mouth instead of behind?"

Study? I don't remember mentioning any study my friend.....

Do you know how to spell gullible?

Clever in his own mind.Turns a simple question into something that he(M&P)`Did not even know what he said`,for an answer?Yes I can spell Muslim.

Wrong

Correct spelling:

D E A D O R A L I V E

You really do have a sense of humor.Shed that Muslim snake skin.Join the rest of humanity in peace.

Indeed - laughter is a good medicine (if used with the correct dose).

I am proud to be part of humanity as a muslim. I could never find any peace to replace the peace I achieve through Islam......Alhamdulillah.

How could a fish ever find peace on dry land?
How could a human find peace in the deepest depths of the ocean?

Gotta call it a night.

Peace

Your post sounds nice enough.But one must `flee to be free`!

we ex Muslims ...flew to be free ... too bad we only could be flee with our minds from Islam and Muslims ... but that is as far as it goes ... the chains are tough too brake !!

So far?!

I will give you 10 proofs in the first instance and wait for yours

Remember to foll the same rule. The two are divided into INTERNAL PROOFS AND EXTERNAL PROOFS. I expect yours to be in the same pattern.

Let start here:
10 PROOFS THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY DIVINE BOOK OF GOD?

INTERNAL PROOFS
1.The intelligent transmission, consistencies and harmony of Bible revelation of God’s plan of salvation which span over 2500 years without contradictions is exceptionally revealing to the understanding minds. The harmony of the message is one of the distinctive of a divine revelation. This harmony is conspicuously absent in the case of the Quran, a book revealed in just 23 years with one authors yet full of inconsistencies and contradictions. For those who see contradictions in the Bible I refer them to http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/index.htm
2.The Bible claims in no uncertain terms that it is the word of one that lives beyond time. Only in the Bible you hear the direct words of God like (“Thus says the Lord” I am the Lord and changeth not” “ the words of the Lord came unto me saying” “The Lord said unto me” “ a voice from heaven said this is my beloved Son hear him” There is distinction between the direct words of God and the words spoken through the prophets and scribes. This you cannot find in manmade scriptures like the Quran. No dialogue with the almighty in the Quran, no proverbs, no parables, no words of wisdom only mendacity and foolishness. Even when you can hear the voice of Mohammed speaking laud and clear they will say it is Allah speaking that there is no words of the prophet in the Quran only that of Allah. Well, Malem will come and prove to us here. That the Quran is the word of God even if it is Allah no problem.

3.40 inspired authors penned down the 66 books of the Bible living in different places and generations over 2500 years among which were kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, poets, statesmen, scholars, a herdsman, a general, a cupbearer, a doctor, a tax collector, and a rabbi. It was written on three continents: Asia, Africa, and Europe, and in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Its subject matter includes hundreds of controversial topics, yet from Genesis right on through to Revelation the authors all spoke with harmony and continuity on the theme of the unfolding story of "God's redemption of humanity." yet without contradicting each other an indication of a common inspiration and divinity. If every truth can be established at the mouth of two or three witnesses the Bible has more than enough, 4o independent Authors or witnesses. This witnesses proof is lacking in the Quran the product of one witness Mohammed, one author Mohammed one prophet Mohammed. The Quran like the hallucination and the fraud of one man Mohammed.

4.The revelation of God impartiality in judgement is particularly revealing. The facts that its prophets, kings and messengers were not spare from judgement and punishment whenever they erred or committed sins makes the Bible unique and different from man-made religions where their so-called prophets are given special dispensation above ordinary people. Like in Islam the prophet can have more than 4 wives whereas the lesser mortals cannot not , he can commit incest, rape slave women, murder and assassinated critiques with his god praising him, he committed paedophilia (child abuse) all at the permission of his Allah. The present world terrorism masterminded by Islam is all carried out by the authority of this demented god called Allah.

EXTERNAL PROOFS
5.Fulfilment of prophesies and some still being fulfilled in our generation. Israel now living as nation in 1948 surrounded by 1.5b enemies ( Islamic nations)yet not been defeated in any battle with the Arabs in accordance with God covenant with them is a living testimony of the veracity of the Bible.
6.The recorded Miracles and current miracle being performed by those who believe in the Bible. So that the miracles are not only historical but living and experiential an evidence of divine manifestation. The Quran admit it impotency to perform miracle with even with well praise and revered prophet Mohammed.

7.The power of transforming grace being witnessed in our time in the life of those who believe the Bible. We see thieves, arm rubbers, adulterers, drug addict, d drunkards, smokers, homosexual, lesbians, witch, wizards, occult people, free thinkers, moralists, pagans, polytheists, terrorist, politicians and religious people being transformed for good by the power of the gospel of Christ. In Islam the reverse is the case, all these misnomers find accommodation and solace in Islam. No power to change them for good.

8.Unprecedented humanitarian works among christens as a result of their faith in the teachings of Christ. We have seen Christian’s organisations and missionaries building schools, hospitals, orphanages, churches for healing, deliverance, and have affected lives of people positively all over the world. No one can fault this. 90% of the world humanitarian aids comes from nations which are affected by the Judea-Christian laws and values. The fruits of love, peace , joy, longsuffering ,compassion, mercies, forgiveness, care for one another, goodness, humility are indication of the goodness of the source of inspiration, which is God.
9.The universality of Bible Message being applicable at all times to all people and at every generation without exception. Its message main theme is love with the especial enforcement of the golden rule(do unto others as you would want them do unto you). The language of love is what is understood by every creation even animals and other living things understand it. This agrees with human nature and the natural instinct in man as oppose to the hate creed, wrath and retaliation as preached in the Quran. The bible message is timeless and eternal. No humans loves and understands the language and message of the Quran in the 21st century talk less of other creatures, which means that, the Message of the Quran will soon go into extinction like an endangered species.
10.If we go by the rules that say the voice of the people is the voice of God and go by the rule of democracy that the majority carry the vote, then we have reasons to believe that the Bible is the word of God. we have more Bible believers in the world than the Quran, there are more people who are not Christians yet they believe that the Bible is the word of God and make use of its message even among Muslim there are many who believe that the Bible is the word of God including Mohammed the Islam lone prophet, but no Christians would ever believe that the Quran is the word of God and no none-Muslim use the Quran message for anything except to do research because there is really no any good message in the Quran except the message of hell, wrath and doom and a deceitful brothel like heaven. Going by this rule alone we will see more than 50% conservatively of the world population going for the bible as the word of God as against the 20% that believe in the Quran bearing mind that the Christian population in the world at present is about 35%. That means that the world has come to believe that the Bible is the only divine book on this planet a proof you cannot fault.

Here is something for you Pastor (chances are you will run off like a biyaaatch, nevertheless):

Please confirm from your scriptures, when and where your Lord and Saviour ever challenged any other faith for proof?

Whilst you are there, please also confirm from your scriptures, when and where your lord and saviour swore at and disrespected other faiths?

You are just determined to make a loof of yourself - everytime dude.

Good night & CHEERS.

Ps. Some free advice: Try learning something about Christianity as opposed to going around asking for proof from other Faiths.

This is the website islam watch. And it is Islam, the Qur'an and Muhammad who are on trial here!

The foul names and disgusting discourse, although typical of Muslims on all the sites I've been to, are not welcome here. If you haven't anything constructive to say, then please stop taking up the bandwidth.

People come to this site to learn about Islam from non-biased, factual, and reliable sources. We come to read the articles and learn about the enemy - yes, that is Islam. And, if you remain members of this cult of deceit, lies, and terrorism, then you are the enemy.

If you can't defend Islam in a civilized manner, then Islam is not defendible.

Ps. Some free advice: Try learning something about Christianity as opposed to going around asking for proof from other Faiths.

Sweet boy, there is no jizay for giving free advice to kuffar...You need to charge for it...Cheap is fine...I have given cheap advice to thousands, many of them Muslims...You can do that too if you focus and put your mind to it...

This is the website islam watch. And it is Islam, the Qur'an and Muhammad who are on trial here!

On trial? Is that what you call it?

If you haven't anything constructive to say, then please stop taking up the bandwidth.

Lol

People come to this site to learn about Islam from non-biased, factual, and reliable sources. We come to read the articles and learn about the enemy - yes, that is Islam.

Really?

Ahem - sorry to burst your bubble sunshine:

So the articles which quote the Holy Qur'an and Hadith are therefore using FACTUAL AND RELIABLE SOURCES. Thanks for confirming.

If you can't defend Islam in a civilized manner, then Islam is not defendible.

That's absolute rubbish. Do the BNP defend their Country in a civilised manner? You are talking out of your behind.

That's absolute rubbish. Do the BNP defend their Country in a civilised manner? You are talking out of your behind.

Thank you for that valuable information sweetest person , I didn't know BNP was a religion...Do they have a book of scripture?
Did their god write it, or did the head BNP get visits from a demon who pressed him several times, and told him what to do and how to act? Can you enlighten us further O likable one?

"Thank you for that valuable information sweetest person"

My pleasure 'kuffar dog' (arf arf).

That cartoon is funny because it's true! If you can't make fun of violent barbarians, who can you make fun of?

'I am proud to be part of humanity as a muslim. I could never find any peace to replace the peace I achieve through Islam......Alhamdulillah.'

I see, you are an Islamic fool too. There is nothing called humanity under Islam. There are only Momins i. e. Muslims and Kaffir i. e. non-believers who are enemies of Allah. Instead of cutting the throats of Kffirs, you are acting as jokers to Kaffirs here. Allah will put both of you in hell-fire.

yibel
like I say that you can't use your mind.Quran from the God(Allah) king of the Gods.all people like arabian christian or jews million of them can't make qoran from 14th century even one surah like this.no one can't make this.
16:69. kemudian makanlah dari tiap-tiap (macam) buah-buahan dan tempuhlah jalan Tuhanmu yang telah dimudahkan (bagimu). Dari perut lebah itu keluar minuman (madu) yang bermacam-macam warnanya, di dalamnya terdapat obat yang menyembuhkan bagi manusia. Sesungguhnya pada yang demikian itu benar-benar terdapat tanda (kebesaran Tuhan) bagi orang-orang yang memikirkan.


69. Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Allah(Lord), made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their
bellies a drink diverse of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect
...
written by then lie, March 04, 2012
S U R A T A L - H I J R

15:22. Dan Kami telah meniupkan angin untuk mengawinkan (tumbuh-tumbuhan) dan Kami turunkan hujan dari langit, lalu Kami beri minum kamu dengan air itu, dan sekali-kali bukanlah kamu yang menyimpannya.
22. And We send the winds fertilizing, and cause water to descend from the sky, and give it you to drink. It is not ye
who are the holders of the store thereof.
an

mengawinkan tumbuh tumbuhan , segala jenis tumbuhan. nabi Muhammad tidak mengetahui ilmu ini. kecuali dari Allah, ilmu ini dari Allah.
wind fertilizing ....mated to grow herbs, all kinds of plants. Prophet Muhammad did not know this science. except from Allah( God), this knowledge of Allah(God).
Holy Quran from Allah the god of human.back to islam.islam is the straight path

....mated to grow herbs, all kinds of plants. Prophet Muhammad did not know this science. except from Allah( God), this knowledge of Allah(God).

You mean no one ever grew a food crop of plants prior to Allah giving the knowledge of agriculture to Mohammad? I thought Adam and his sons were tillers of the soil and knew about animal husbandry...If they were not tilling to grow food, what were they tilling for? Why did Allah need to tell Mohammad what had already been known and in practice for thousands of years?

I do remember a story about Mohammad and his men going somewhere on horse back and stopped to rest in the shade where there was water...There was a farmer working in a field nearby...Never seeing anyone toiling in a field before, two soldiers went to the field and layed down to watch the man work...They got so tired watching this farmer toil, they fell asleep...Mohammad noticed this and went over there rousted them with a few kicks and admonished them for sleeping on the job...

Thomas Jefferson had the right idea and wisdom that may apply to the above subject.
He wrote "Let the eye of viglance never be closed."

Mo's god recognizes some human beings, namely the masters, as more blessed by Himself than the less favored slaves as part of His divine plan. He warns Muslims against sharing His gifts (booty from wars against the non-believers) to them equally with their slaves. Those who would take slaves as equal, warns Mo's god, would deny Him:

"Al-Muqaddim, The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess (slaves), so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of
Al-Muqaddim, The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward ? [Quran 16:71]

The institution of slavery in Islam was formalized in the following Quranic verse, in
which Mo's god distinguishes free human beings or masters from the dumb, useless and burdensome ones, the slaves:

The Qur'an sets forth a Parable of two men: one of them dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master; whichever way he directs him, he brings no good: is such a man equal with one who commands Shari'ah, and is on a Straight Way (Islam and Jihad)? Quran 16:76

16:69 "There cometh forth from their bellies a drink diverse of hues" This is referring to water from a camel's belly. Perhaps science should examine this magic elixir, since Mo's god says it is a cure for all that ails us?

"If you haven't anything constructive to say, then please stop taking up the bandwidth."

Yea, you're one to talk about taking up bandwidth, you little pissant. You're worse than the pedophilic, child molester Mooohamed.

@Malem: Re "Making fun or casting falsehoods and defaming any religious group or race is wrong"

Imagine there is a religion that believes the soul enters the body at conception (many do).
Imagine there is a religion that believes identical twins have only half of the original soul each.
Imagine there is a religion that considers identical twins to be less than human and should be killed at birth.
No great stretch of the imagination is required.

Now, is it defaming if I disagree with this religion? If I call the people who kill babies for a stupid idea murderers and butchers?
At what point does a 'religion' loose all claims to being humane? Islam has passed that point.
You would not claim these rights for members of the National Socialist party? Why claim it for a Islamic Socialist party - with the same aims and methods?

Anyone who remains a member of a fascist system is guilty of the being a member of a fascist ideology.

Malman is a a claimed Doctor and a Muslim of the Quran only type, but this must cause him to have a case of cognitive dissonance...As a Doctor, does he really believe that Man was created from a drop of congealed blood? And who's blood was that? Does Allah bleed? Malman is not stupid, but his belief in fairy tales clouds his mind, and causes him to obfuscate a lot in a failed attempt to defend his religion...

Georgia, I am not sure what your claims have to do with my statement. You go from talking about a Soul to the butchering of innocent babies, quite a stretch in terms of the topic as neither is related from what I can tell. Political partys and the Islamic Religion are two seperate entities, should you want to discuss them. My point still stands "Making fun or casting falsehoods and defaming any religious group or race is wrong" If you do not agree and think that type of behavior is civil and human, that is your opinion which I respect.

Duh, I have read fairy tales but do not rely on them for life guidance, however if you are referencing the Holy Quran that is a different story. I do not defend any religion as Islam can stand very much on its own. What I do is only to clarify the misunderstandings, false claims and other aspersions that are so frequently bantered about.

Duh, I have read fairy tales but do not rely on them for life guidance,

You don't just read them, you believe them... The Quran has more than guidance in it, it has material statements like man was created from a drop of congealed blood...If you don't believe that, you don't believe the Quran, or Allah...Someone might think you were an apostate or confused, or worse a hypocrite...Of course you will probably repeat the old Islamic obfuscation...That verse does not mean what it says, it means something else in Arabic and you can explain it away...Haha, that I doubt...sweet Doctor...Yes indeed you do believe in fairy tales and the drop of dry blood is only one of them...

Alaq' does not indicate blood in the Quran. Anyone with knowledge of Arabic and the Quran would know this and also know why the word Alaq was used and what it meant.

Why don't you explain it? I predicted the ole language one upsmanship...Happens every time...I guess those translators got it wrong...You must know Arabic better than they do...Say, is 23:14 a medically sound description of fetal develoment, or is it a little lacking?

l-Mumenoon [23:14] Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature: so blessed be Allah, the Best to create!

Al-`Alaq Chapter 96 : Verse 3
Created man from a clot of blood.

Some people do not even know that the clot that is referred to is the first state of the embryo which appears a few days after conception.

Instead of me hashing out what has been discussed numerous times please see http://www.understanding-islam...ated-from. My brother explains it clearly and concisely, even for those not well read in Arabic or English for that matter

Haha...What of the heart, lungs and blood system, the digestive system, the lymph system the nerve system, Allah forgot to tell the geniuses of the day any of that...I'm not going to any of your biased web sites...I already know human biology...How about Allah 'creating man' from a clot of blood...'Man', is generic for all mankind, not a man born of a human woman, that would be 'a man'...Did Allah create 'man' from a clot of blood or not? I don't really care because your whole book is a farce anyway...Answer it or not makes no difference...

Proverbs 23:9 would be my response to you Duh, I am sure Clement is laughing

Prof DR Tagagat Tajasen from thailand budhis emberence islam coz this Quran
4:56. Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed
We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.
57. And as for those who believe and do good works, We shall make them enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow
to dwell therein for ever; there for them are pure companions and We shall make them enter plenteous shade.

he say Prophet Muhammad can't read, why he say about this. must be this from his God.that is Allah.and then he choice islam.

http://www.islamcalls.com/chapter/47.PDF

So you list 4:56, but you list a rough translation and no explanation of it, why is that? It could be because you want to present it in a fashion that creates a buzz, or maybe you cannot undesrtand it? Let me help you. Its rough meaning is that should you not follow the way of Allah and commit acts against him and his ways the consequences will be Hell and the phrase of the exchange of skin is meant to show that the state of torment when you are not aligned with Allah is continious and not a one time event. So embracing Allah will help you achieve happiness and peace within you hence the verse 57 showing you the state that can be achieved.

Proverbs 23:9 would be my response to you Duh, I am sure Clement is laughing

Huh? The subject is the Quran, not the Bible...You obfuscated again...Getting to be a regular thing...

I do like the way you talk down and preach to your brother 'then lie'...When are you going to correct your sons, M&P and rzq about hadith and sharia?

Duh if you read Proverbs 23:9 you would see why I did not begin to address your comments.

How is it I talked down to my brother and lie, if you could be specific I would surely address that!
Who is asking for correction? and what do you mean by that?

Sometimes you write too much and then you go the opposite way, too little and I cannot make headway of waht you are asking

@Malem
The first state of the embryo is not a clot. It is a single cell that originates in the ovaries of the female right after it has been fertilized by a single sperm cell contributed by the male of the species. Blood does not form until much later. The only mythological god who claimed to have created man from clots of blood was the Babylonian high god Marduk.

Mohammad called his God Allah. Al-ilah was "the high god" on the Babylonian system of gods. Al-Illah was his title, but Bel or Bel Marduk was his name. Bel is mentioned in Isaiah 46:1 "Bel bows down, Nebo stoops low; their idols are borne by beasts of burden. The images that are carried about are burdensome, a burden for the weary."

Read Qur'an 96 (Muhammad's first surrah): 1-2 Say/Recite:
In the name of thy Lord who Creates man from Clots of Blood. (This is in
reference to the Mesopotamian god Marduk who created humans to be servants from the clots of blood of the great General Kingu after he slew him in battle.)

Q.96:3-4 Say/Recite: And thy Lord is the Most Bountiful One (Ar-Rahman), Who taught by the pen, Taught man what he knew not. (This is the Mesopotamian god Nabu/Nebo whose symbol is a stylus. He took over many of Marduk's qualities during the Neo-Babylonian period.)
Ar-Rahman/Ar-Rimmon was the thunder god who held the reins of the lightning god Buraq, the winged white horse that Muhammad claimed he rode to the Fartherest Mosque on his famous Night Journey to the seven heavens/skies where he claimed he met with, and talked to, various dead people from the Bible.

Muhammad claimed that all the prophets rode Buraq. Muhammad was mistaken. It was Buraq (aka Pegasus to the Greeks) who carried the gods, NOT prophets, on various missions, mainly to war.

96:18 We (Marduk, Nabu, and Ar-Rahman) will call the guards of Hell. (In Islam: The Guard/Keeper of Hell is Al-Malik; MLK in the Bible, translated as Molech; Malik is the Babylonian god of fire; Malik/Fire shoots from the mouth of Marduk.)

Muhammad's religion is Babylonian/Chaldean mythology revived. He raised, from the dead, the gods of war!

Who is asking for correction? and what do you mean by that?

You said your job here was to correct misconceptions...So is that just for kuffar misconceptions or all misconceptions? Your dear brothers are deep into illusion, that puts them at odds with Allah...They believe in hadith and sharia, and you allow them to labor under those delusions, when you know Sharia/hadith are man made?... It would seem to me that it is your duty to Allah to help them see clearly...Help them out as you did 'then lie'...So when are you going to start?

My brothers are grown men who have free will to do as they please. I do not see them attacking and missrepresenting the Holy Quran so why would I address them in such and aggressive manner? Oh I see you are growing weary of being presented opposing valid views and now want us to turn on each other? Sorry to dissapoint you but I will be following your lead on that trip

Blah blah sweet doctor who believes in fairy tales...You care not to share your knowledge with your brothers, so you don't care about them...You are a one way street...defend Islam and your brothers even if you look like a fool doing it...That's fine, I believe in giving a Muslim fool a chance to make a fool of himself...In that regard you never fail...

My brothers are reading my posts so how am I not sharing? and then you go right back to calling names. I really want you to know that it does not reflect well on you to do so, I am not calling you names rather I am presenting my viewpoint and pointing out where you are misinterpreting items.

Thanks for that your last educative post, I enjoyed it. The truth is bitter though but we must keep on telling the truth.

These guys call people names , like infidels, kufr, polytheist, Idolaters Yet they are ignorant that they are the most celebrated infidels of all times, with everything they revered Idolatrous.

Sometimes I wonder whether these guys do find time to research all these revelation of their mystical religion.

Cheers.

What you state is your opinion, not fact. You throw various names associated with Greek, Babylonian folklore into the mix to try and justify your viewpoint. This is not correct, the versus that you state are quite clear if you read and understand the Surah.

Clement I am laughing at your comment that "These guys call people names" when you yourself, Yibel , Duh etc have each continuously done the same. There is an old saying about the kettle and pot addressing that.
Cheers

Duh etc have each continuously done the same.

No one has done anything 'continuously'...You keep accusing of name calling without showing a single example...Show where I have 'continuously' called anyone derogatory names...I was calling them as I saw them, until Mr Khan asked for name calling to stop...I have not spoken about any Muslims except in the sweetest of sweet terminology since, so you are not exactly telling the truth are you?...It pains me to accuse a sweet man like yourself of fibbing, but it is so obvious I have to comment on it, I hope your feelings are not too injured...

I was not aware that coniniously had a stopping point nor was I unaware that "names" only meant derogatory. That is a new definition to me and one I will need to check on. I appreciate your clarification.

More nonsense from the Doctor...Double talk does look good on you...

To Mr. Ghalib. Thank you. You observe correct about 7. I don’t go to mosque. Imams had virtually hanged Jesus Christ. They are professionals and have skills to survive. Thanks again for videos.
To scrutator. Thanks dear. I am not resurfacing. I found more deserving disturbed people elsewhere. IW was considering me hostile to the site.
The interpretations of Quran are hadis based; so also the sects. All sects are hell bound. Quran can be translated as any book. Quran itself discourages interpretations. It is individual’s responsibility to ponder and reflect.
Kalima and Khatna not there in Quran. Hadis tell them to do that. Prayer times are suggested in Quran.
To Dwito. Thank you. I wish if they are encouraged.
Archpagan. Thanks. I am fine. Not on sabbatical. Sorry for nagging. I crossed my limits.
To Malem. Allah reminded many times that Muhammad was not more than a messenger like all other apostles. It does not matter much if he had brothers’ sisters etc in delivering message. I cannot defend if his mother was Amina, father Abdullah and daughter was Fatima. I once looked for meanings of name Fatima. I could not find. Hadis gives not only names but ages etc.
To fineliving56
I am fine thank you. Thanks for inviting to IW. I did enjoy my stay here with you nice folk. I hope you know I avoided debate or Munazra. People have choice to believe whatever they wish. I have sympathies with hadis/sirah believers.
I wish best for all of you.

You welcome

I wish you best too .

One thing about you that I am sure off, is that you are, one Muslim, who will not try to imitate some parts from Quran to the letter and try to kill,cut,behead,lash anyone ... you are peaceful Muslim and I know and I think everyone knew you are peaceful ... I know I got angry [ a lot ]and you got angry at one time or two ... but my anger is not at you ... my anger is at what happening and still happening in Islamic countries like mine ... sense you left there were more Muslim who killed Muslim many more then non Muslims killing Muslims ... why?

You say Quran has nothing to do with it and we say it has everything to do with it ?

I wish Quran was peaceful and Muslims are peaceful ... if it was I could actually imagine my self staying as Muslimah ...

but they are not and Islam is not ... and that is why we are here .

saying people are misunderstanding Islam does not help the falling dead killed in the name of Islam!!

peace to you and goodbye.