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Islamic Agenda in Egyptian Parliament: Legislation of Sex with Dead-Body and Underage Marriage

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Egyptian national daily Al-Ahram reported that after gaining absolute power in the post-Mubarak parliamentary election in Egypt, Islamists are trying to bring in two proposals for legislation to the Egyptian Parliament:

  1. Farewell Sex: Allowing spouses to have sex with dead-bodies of their partners;
  2. Underage marriage: Lowering the age-limit for marriage to 14 years.

The "Farewell Sex" legislation proposal was based on a May-2011fatwa by Moroccan cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari. According to Zamzami, marriage contract between husband and wife in Islam remains valid even after one of the spouses die, which makes having sex with a Muslim’s dead spouse legal.

The new proposed law would allow the husband and wife to have sex with the corpse of their dead spouse for up to six hours.

The proposed new Islamic law is another good news for the Muslim men, whom Islam has already heavily blessed in the sexual pleasure department by allowing them to take four wives, unlimited mu'ta wives (temporary wives) and sex-slaves.

But it's not a good news at all for the Muslim women, heavily deprived in sexual gratifications by Islam. Although the law allows them to have sex with the dead husband, but it will be useless for the overwhelming majority of Muslim women, because a dead man cannot have erection. Only in rare instance of a man's death, such as that of Prophet Muhammad, when the person die in a state of what is called "permanent post-mortem erection", that the dead person's penile instrument remains permanently erect after death. Except those rare instances, the new legislation would be of no value to women.

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  1. Al Ahram newspaper
  2. Al-Arabiya
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A Joke
written by Mozambique , April 28, 2012

Islam is a joke

Nothing more to say
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islam is a disgrace to humanity
written by annad , April 28, 2012
the more I read about this cult ; the more repulsed I get. This cult should be eradicated prohibited reformed or hell knows what else but stopped immediately before it devour the entire civilazex world and brings us all back to stone ages.
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Islam is truly different
written by mierchee , April 28, 2012
So far we know, the reason of libido or sexual intercourse is to proliferate generations. Islam proved everyone is wrong. It's truly different.
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FINALLY GENDER EQUALITY
written by VRM , April 28, 2012
This proposed law allows a wife to do it with her dead hubby.
Finally gender equality in Islam.
And she will probably experience her first o too.
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Here it is ..
written by fineliving56 , April 28, 2012
I have written about this subject under earlier Article, when I read it in JW , Muslims here right away claimed that it is all lies without bothering to look it up ... demanded proof ... well here it is .

They accused me for not having class for stating the unclassy acts done by the Muslims themselves and their leaders [ imams ]

Look Muslims ... Please when we report Islamic acts that has been verified ... do not come to us ... instead and go have it out with them ... the sick, demented Muslim Imams who are coming out with inhumane garbage .

Do not blame the messenger ... [ appropriate word ...don't you think ]



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Six hours is a long time (both will be dead by then I think)
written by Infidel and More Proud , April 28, 2012
I think six hours should make the marriage travel to heaven

If they carry on for 6 hours the marriage will carry on to heaven for both will die.

ABC to verify.
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mr khan and phobes
written by abc , April 28, 2012
He whom laughs last laughs the loudest. Good article mr khan, about 3 days after it hit the islamophobic blogosphere. Better late than never as they say. I have also noted how some of the readers are revelling in their sense of self gratification.
"i rung and told anybody who would listen" is that right fineliving.
When i asked for proof of this you changed subject. The proof would have been some islamic texts. However you had read it in adolf spencers jihad watch and that was enough for you to run your mouth.
Well mr khan and not for the first time i have had to correct your writing. Last time i refused to give you a reference but this time i will. So do not go awol for a few weeks like last time.
This story is a HOAX, a LIE, a FABRICATION.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Egypts-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-DEAD-wives-branded-complete-nonsense.html#ixzz1tLWiiaG4

Have a good read.
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mr khan and phobes
written by abc , April 28, 2012
Oh i must not forget our christian haters. clement,yibel and cerebrum. Just for you boys, the christian science monitor covers the hoax as well.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey

note the important lesson at the end. Dont believe everything you read on the net. It maybe written by hateful charlatans like mr khan without a shred of evidence
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mr khan and phobes
written by abc , April 28, 2012
reviewing my posts now??? Its not going to make your lies come true now is it?
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mr khan
written by abc , April 28, 2012
Now The daily mail has even updated their article saying :Egypt’s ‘plans for farewell intercourse law so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives’ branded a ‘complete nonsense’
Citing “sources inside the Egyptian Embassy in London,“ the Mail reported Friday the claims were ”completely false,“ ”forbidden in Islam“ and that those interviewed ”could never imagine it happening.” While not an official rebuttal, an embassy source told the site no such proposal had reached parliament, though acknowledged “it could be the work of an extremist politician.”
citing an Egyptian political activist who said “There is no law and no draft”:
He also explained that Egyptian journalist Sarah Carr has investigated the matter, and has said that what is being called the “farewell intercourse law” originated with a talk given by an Egyptian media personality, and has no bases in the discussions of actual MPs, at least in the public sphere.
Is that enough proof for you? I know some of you anti-islamist wish it was true, but sorry its NOT TRUE
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infidull and more proud
written by abc , April 28, 2012
"ABC to verify" maybe you should talk to your mother about it.
what do you say champ?
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fineliving
written by abc , April 28, 2012
Are you goiung to tell all those people you delighted in telling that you made acomplete fool of yourself AGAIN???
Lack the moral courage i suspect.
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@Abc
written by Editor, M A Khan , April 28, 2012
Nothing you posted discount the fact that proposal for such a legislation exist. We need to see a denial to the effect from the Egyptian parliament, and retraction of the news by al-Ahram and al-arabiya. Until that happens, the news stands for true. And even if that happens, we have been absolutely honest in our reporting. We didn't invent anything. al-Ahram and al-arabiya are influential newspapers/portals in the Arab world.

And you have been banned for spamming.
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...
written by bundypig , April 28, 2012
and quoting the christian science monitor is paramount to quoting scientology
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@ ABC and blowing your islamic trumpet on the forum why not Egypt and Morrocco
written by Infidel and More Proud , April 29, 2012
Why dont you go and dicuss with the Egytians and Morracon scholars this is wrong?

That action will have more benifit on your fellow brothers who want to make sure women is dead in the next 6 hours if not already so.

May be good for young girls married to old men for who can say at least he got wood(from rigor mortis).
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To Abc
written by Archpagan , April 29, 2012
I am happy to learn that you have the feeling of something like shame. Very few Muslim men enjoy having 4-wives simultaneously, which is coming in the way of being a devout Muslim. Would you please suggest a solution?
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ABC
written by fineliving56 , April 29, 2012
I never have seen more misunderstanding of the reasonof participate here …

Mark my words ABC … I am not here waiting to say '' Uhaa '' when some bad new come out of Muslims and their short comings becomes head line news … I am here to expose the real TRUTH about Islam …..especially when the real truth about Islam is RICH enough with all the pure absurdity in Islam …. it does not need any more added sick, demented things to INVENT

All you have to do just open the hedeeth books by Bukari ot Muslims and just read and feast on the crazy, backward and down right insane rules, regulations and happenings.

Remember…. Muhammad's one night stand with his dead Aunt in her grave to see '' if she would talk to him '' … How sick is that? …

Is this story is far from the story of '' Muslim husband sleeping with his dead body of his wife ''… No …… I do not think so at all …. it is very close and I think it is most likely that Egyptian imam did say, that imitating Muhammad him self.
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Abc Banned
written by Proud Infidel , April 29, 2012
I suspect the Islamic troll Abc will be back. His writing style is lousy and very predictable.
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Proud Infidel
written by Fineliving56 , April 29, 2012
ABC … is banned ? … I forgot that I have read that last night and I addressed him this morning.

You are right … I think every one has a unique way of writing and it showed it self … one way or anther …. I know someone else who's writings are so fun like … it demand noticing and it is missed on a regular bases .

I know for sure no one will mistake my writing … all you have to do is find the most English mistakes in a post and you will find me …. hahaha
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...
written by Brown Superman , April 29, 2012
Please excuse Abc for his spamming. As usual, he suffers from epilepsy and verbal diarrhoea like his Mohameddan compatriots and brothers-in-terrorism do.
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fatwas :-)
written by 1proudkaffur4life , April 29, 2012
How often can one read "...this is unislamic, or this has nothing to do with Islam. When 9/11 happened I knew a Muslim at work, and when he told me that "this has nothing to do with Islam" at that time I believed him, because he himself seemed just to be some regular guy. Well only later I found out that many things which are declared "unislamic" are in fact spawned from the Islamic writings....

Now to the topic, if the "dead body in the grave" gets a visit from two Angels and has a conversation with them in which the dead person is asked at least 3 questions, and if it is a unbeliever his head will be smashed then over 90 snakes and one scorpion come to him/her, (a thought most abhorred by many Muslims) then why should a dead body not receive a "farewell sex encounter" with his living spouse before the burial?

About the punishment in the grave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWb-hYIm2WE
in which he says that the "punishment starts from "today" the day of the death.
Again he speaks about "unbelievers"... of course there are many Islamic websites dealing with the issue as well.

How many Muslims spoke up against the Iran Cleric who declared "earthquakes to be direct result of misbehaving women"? So when Islamic Scholars come out with SUCH nonsense, who is to blame if another hoax will initially be believed? Especially if the initial report comes from a "respected Islamic" Site?

The funny thing is while this "hoax" is being questioned by Muslims and its truthfulness questioned and when proven false it will be rejected by the UNBELIEVERS, ANOTHER much more sinister hoax going on for 1400 years and counting will not be exposed and rejected by them : MohamMAD claim to be the spokesperson for a demented stone-gawd allah.

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If allah was really all wise and mindful of his "slaves" he'd follow his own advice in Quoran 2:106 and send a IMPROVED Quoran V0.3.00. Uthmans compilation being V02.00 :-)
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clarification
written by 1proudkaffur4life , April 29, 2012
Of course above should be:
....rejected by the UNBELIEVERS, ANOTHER much more sinister hoax going on for 1400 years and counting will not be exposed and rejected by DEVOUT PIOUS MUSLIMS: MohamMAD claim to be the spokesperson for a demented stone-gawd allah.
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don't ban abc
written by annad , April 29, 2012
Dear editor; please don;t ban Abc and the likes. Obviously your article has touched the nerves. Great! This is the reaction that it should provokednakong Islam poisoned zombies. I am glad that Muslims like Abc start feeling the shame about religion/culture that is associated with Islam. They need to know that the worldnis watching and people are laughing at their ridicuoilos customs. And laughter is a killer for fanatism.
Allow them to post on your website and allow us to laugh at their barbarity; backwardness; primitivism and savagery.
Good luck to you and yours. You are doing a great job by exposing Islam to a sunlight.
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@1proudkaffur4life
written by bundypig , April 29, 2012
when 9/11 happened here in Australia, my sis-in-law worked at a school which was mostly zombified and the parents there were in the street dancing and singing praises to the great satan.These people have no sense of dignity among the entire ideology, they are like animals and that shows in their deeds.
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Unbanning Abc
written by Editor, M A Khan , April 29, 2012
We usually do not want to ban anyone unless inciting violence. Sometimes, we want to put someone out temporarily.

As I see that there are many people on the board, who support ABC, I have unbanned him sooner by a couple of days.
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@ ABC and clones
written by Infidel and More Proud , April 30, 2012
I think it is unislamic for a muslim man to preten he is a women. Allah knows best and it will be considered homosexuality. Maybe ABC is a closet.....
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News from Saudi Arabia
written by Gnostic , April 30, 2012
The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia condemms anybody who is agaist child marriages at 12! This means that leading islamic scholars are promoting child abuse!
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Spread of Islam
written by Proud to be a Muslim , April 30, 2012
To all you prejudiced and disobedient Kaafers, I want to ask one simple question... If Islam is such a barbaric religion then how it is spreading like a forest fire in this modern world. you had changed the history regarding the spread of Islam by saying Islam was spread through sword... Now what answer do you have. Which Islamic country has sent their military to the west to convert the so called enlightened people to Islam..... Yahdikumullah.
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source
written by Roger , April 30, 2012
Whilst I agree that farewell sex is demonic, is there a source from Islamic scriptures that prompted Egyptian authorities to take such drastic step?
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found this on another site....
written by 1proudkaffur4life , April 30, 2012
Unfortunately on the other site it could not be translated,

Can a Arabic speaking person check this out?
It supposed to confirm that sex with a dead person can be allowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_EfWMCPb4

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1proudkaffur4life
written by fineliving56 , April 30, 2012
I watched the youtub video and I have watched other like it in only Arabic Language from EgyptianTV …

I gathered that a DR named women Mirvat altallawi sent a letter to the Parliament asking to stop a regulation request issued by imam named Umar Abd al samee'e [ this regulation printed in Arabic and is **shown in the video** with the imam picture on the side … you can not have more prove then that ]

This regulation asking the the Egyption parliment to aprove it and it contain two regulation …one about an agrement to let 14 years old girls to marry and the other is to let a husband to sleep with in his wife dead wife's body within 6 hour after her death and it is called '' Modagait al wada '' … means '' Farewell intercourse''

It seems the news Egyptian news Anchors are ALL outraged and hurfied to know that it is true that this Imam DID in fact is trying to make it as an Islamic law to let a man dishonor his wife this way … it seems it is only a by this demented crazy Muslim Umar … it seems no one wants to have anything todo with such sick acts …

So I know this request is going to stay as a request … I do not think anyone in the Egyptian Parliament would vote for this kind of garbage .

Never the less … it is true …

I hope my translation is understandable
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Roger
written by Fineliving56 , April 30, 2012
It is in No way taught by the Quran … I know the Quran cover to cover … sleeping with dead people is not written about …

now in Hadeeth … Muhammad seems to think dead people could talk or communicate and to test that he spent the night in His Aunt dead body the night she died [ How sick can a prophet can get ?? ] when He was asked if she talked to him …

So there is a close or similar story from hadeeth .. to dead body … But I have never read this rule of permission to let a man to sleep with his dead wife .

If Fact … What I know from back home In Islamic tradition when a Muslim women dies, her husband is not allowed to see her nude or wash her body … I remember when I asked why … they said becouse the women as soon she dies her husband is forbidden to him … [ Muharam Alaha ] .
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to proud to be muslim
written by annad , April 30, 2012
You people breed like there is no tomorrow. That's how Islam spreads. Other people limit themselves to 2 or 3 kids. Muslims produce as much as they can with no regards to the quality of life of future generations. You produce multiple offspring's and expect others to pay the bills. If tomorrow we;hopefully; get off the oil dependency - who is going to feed chords of Muslims in oil rich countries? They all willnlive as Muslims live right now in countries without oil.
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Re: M&P
written by Gnostic , May 01, 2012
Islam is not really spreading. The number of converts is at a level of not very influential political or religious sects. There are even more buddhists in western countries than muslims. Only some mentally ill people are looking for something like islam and a few because the ywant to marriage a muslim partner. No, if so, then only by the higher birth rate and this will become a demograhic catastrphe. Who will feed all this inbreeded stupid and superstitious people who cannot feed themselves?
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Too proud to be muslim
written by CGW , May 01, 2012
islam is not spreading as fast as Christianity worldwide - check your facts. Africa and China are fast Christianizing - and China alone has almost as many people as islam does worldwide!

islam is DOOMED - it is a failed joke of a cult. The world laughs daily at its ridiculousness.

How does it feel to be ridiculed as a laughingstock? Your "prophet" (pigsh!t be upon him) is mocked and ridiculed, and with good reason. What a moron!
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Islamic conversion
written by Kiwi , May 01, 2012
For every Islamic convert there are three or four who leave and even more are apostocising once they reach safe harbour in the west.

Mst of your converts are criminals in jail who convert for the better food and conditions - they leave as soon as they get out! You collect the losers and failures who do not have the self esteem to make it on their own so have to join a gang to make themsleves important. And Islam accepts even those with no I.Q. they are so desperate to swell their numbers.

@FineLiving - go have a look at crossmuslims blogspot - there is some very interesting info there about Mohammed sleeping in the grave with his daughter and with another woman he fancied - the interesting bit is about how correct is the Arabic translation where "sleeping with" is usually accepted as an Islamic reference to conjugal relations!

Also read David Goldman's "How civilisations die (and why Islam is dying too)" - a much more scientific reason for Islams present demise which the muslim scholars don't want you to know and who keep telling lies to muslims to keep them in subjucation in case the brothers and sister find out that a lot of educated muslims are fleeing Islam in the thousands.
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Islam is over!
written by Gnostic , May 01, 2012
In Iran more and more people are beginning to hate islam if they are not already doing so. The same will happen very likely if salafism comes into power in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. Islma is only growing amongst illiterates and other loosers.
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Maybe Nonsense
written by Proud Infidel , May 01, 2012
It may be so that the whole thing wasn't true. But the fact that the Egyptian embassy, as well as other prominent offices had to get involved still speaks volumes about what is going on in Islam.
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Islam Growing
written by Proud Infidel , May 01, 2012
"If Islam is such a barbaric religion then how it is spreading like a forest fire in this modern world."

Because the religious aspect of Islam is pushed, leaving out the fact that it is in fact not a religion, but a political system cloaked in religion.
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FOREST IN FIRE
written by VRM , May 01, 2012
Islam spreading like a fire in the forest!!!!
But the Libyan cleric says 6 million muslims leaving Islam annually only in Africa.
75% converts to Islam desert it within 4 years.
Rest in coming yerrs.
Seems it is spreading in dry bushes of M. minds.
JHOOTH KE PAWAN NAHI HOTE.
Lies have no feet.
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...
written by Gabriel , May 01, 2012
ISLAM=Stupid, Lazy, Rubbish, Problem, Disturb, Lie, Ruses, Brain wash, Pig, Taboos, Barbarian, Dirty, Ugly, Noisy, Crazy, Oppress, Danger, Violent, Behead, Horror, War, Boom, Politic, Womanizing, Pedophilia, Polygamy, Fanatic, Evil, Terrorist
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hey
written by Jye's , May 02, 2012
I've read this in a few places now and honestly, are you freaking kidding me??? How inbred do you have to be to even contemplate corpse sex. What the actual EFF??? Well, never a dull moment in the Islamic world, but seriously guys, I think you've even outdone yourselves!
PS, when did puke turn all Jackson 5?
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@fineliving56
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 02, 2012
Thank you very much for taking the trouble and watching the video. I have not watched it myself, except of course at the beginning to see if there was any English translation, and then when there was none, I stopped. Not being a native English speaker myself, I have actually no problem (most of the times) to understand your post, and the points you make. Thanks for being here and for your input. After all this seems not to be the complete "HOAX" our Muslim defender like to have it. Again (for me at least) this proves once again that mere humans try to create their religion.
Now lets say the vast majority of the people would WANT this to happen, well, the laws can then be changed..
So luckily most people are abhorred by this "sick" idea of one "religious Scholar/Imam." But the GREATEST HOAX off all is defended by Muslims.
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illawarrior
written by illawarrior , May 05, 2012
at least if she can get him in the right stage of riga mortis ....it might be stiff!!!
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Sex education from Saudi Government (sex with animals and dead)
written by Infidel and More Proud , May 06, 2012
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written by bundypig , May 06, 2012
Rotten to the core
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Where to begin … with hadeeth like Sahih Muslim - Book 3 - part 2 - hadeeth 102
written by fineliving56 , May 06, 2012
BTW … The Sahih hadeeth book I have, has a different number for this Hadeeth … it is 105 in Book 3 and titiled '' The wash '' al Gasiil ''

It is real and it is disgusting to say the least … but I have to say … we are talking about a time where Animals used for everything eating , dressing , horns , tools , and the unthinkable thing is sleeping with them …

The thing that Muslims miss in a such big way … that a prophet who claim to be contacted by a good and uthantic God that wants us to pry to IT Should have , most have , absolutely eradicated and outlawed such acts of hadeeth 102 and others like it

because Muhammad failed to do that that makes him nothing but a man with the drive to actually invent a religion [ Islam] to rule and control

Now … The crucial word in Sahih Hadeeth 102 in book 3 - part [ bab] 2 .. is

[ al kitaanan ] …. it is a plural of the word [ al kitan] which means [to circumcise ] a boy or a girl …

Sometimes Ancient Arabs when they wanted to refer to mens and women the top part or the outer part of the opening of vagina ] they use the word [ al kitan ] means [ circumcised genitals ] ... circumcision was practiced way before Ilsam and Islam just adupted or stole this practice like everything else … instead of outlaws it, like it should have …

Muslim baby girls are still being subjected to Female Genatil Mutilation in not only in Egypt and Sudan … but here … right here In the Muslim community in USA and the west .. done under the table . … this is another story … Has to be addressed … and eradicated .

I will write about the meaning of the hadeeth it self later … the post seems long … I have to get off the Computer …



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