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Fingerprints: Another Quranic Miracle?

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Citing Quran 75:4, Muslims claim that the Quran talked about uniqueness of fingerprints 14 centuries ago. Another Quranic miracle, and another proof that Quran is divine. But this verse does not talk about "fingerprints" at all, let alone its uniqueness. Moreover, usage of fingerprints for signature and identification purposes goes thousands of years before Islam.


Ever since kaffir quack-scientist Maurice Bucaille (1920–98) of France (actually medical doctor of the Saudi royal family) published his book, The Bible, The Quran and Science, to demonstrate that the Quran is scientific, Bible not, numerous Muslim quack-scientists, led by Zakir Naik and Harun Yahya, have discovered numerous scientific miracles in the Quran and continue to so. We are aware of the big-time Quranic sciences, namely embryology, big-bang theory, cosmology and many more.

Another miracle that has been making rounds, although failed to attract major attention, is the mention of uniqueness of the “fingerprints” in the Quran. A few days ago (not the first time), I received following query from a non-Muslim reader:

Greeting to all staffs of islam-watch.org site. How are you? And now please, I want you to send me your response (rebuttals) for this claim, and I look forward your instant and positive reply with a great hope. So please, please help me.

General Science Fingerprints

‘Does man think that We Cannot assemble his bones? Nay, We are able to put Together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.’ [Quran 75:3–4]Unbelievers argued regarding resurrection taking place after bones of dead people have disintegrated in the earth and how each individual would be identified on the Day of Judgement. Almighty Allah answers that He can not only assemble our bones, but can also reconstruct perfectly our very fingertips.

According to Muslims, the second verse 75:4—'Nay, We are able to put Together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers'—was talking about uniqueness of fingerprints some 14 centuries ago.

We are all aware of the immense value fingerprints have added to our civilization. Concerning modern development of fingerprint usage, German anatomist Johann Christoph Andreas Mayer (1747–1801) recognized in 1788 that fingerprints are unique to each individual, while English magistrate Sir William James Herschel (1833–1918) initiated fingerprinting in British India in 1858. Since then, fingerprinting has been used extensively as signatures in legal documents to this day around the world. While, with increasing literacy, signatures are replacing fingerprints in documents, the usage of fingerprinting continues to diversify and become increasingly important in criminal investigation, biometric identification, determination of drug abuse, and creating databases etc.

The Quranic miracle-hunting Muslims say that nobody knew about uniqueness of fingerprints until the 18th century. How could the Quran, revealed 1,400 years ago, be talking about such a valuable tool to humanity? So wonder stunned Muslims: 'Surely it could have been none other than the Creator Himself (who authored the Quran)!'

Thus, we have another scientific miracle in the Quran, which would go on to enrich humanity greatly, but only after its discovery by kafir scientists, like all other miraculous Quranic sciences. Readers may consult commentaries of various Islamic scientists on this Quranic miracle in following links:

1.  Harun Yahya’s Identity In The Fingerprint.

2.  And following video:

Let me now address a point Harun Yahya made about fingerprints: 'Fingerprints attain their final shape before birth and remain the same for a lifetime unless a permanent scar appears.'

Contrary to Yahya’s assertion, fingerprints are, in fact, not so stable in children until the age of puberty, according to 1995 findings by researchers at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory (see, Ashbaugh DR. (1991) "Ridgeology", Journal of Forensic Identification Vol 41:1).

Nonetheless, the importance of fingerprints as an identity marker of individuals is immense. Now the question that must be asked is:

Does Quran 75:4 truly talk about fingerprints and its uniqueness?

Let me cite a number of translations of Quran 75:3–4:

Yusuf Ali: Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones? Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very “tips of his fingers”.

Pickthal: Thinketh man that We shall not assemble his bones? Yea, verily. We are Able to restore his very “fingers”!

Shakir: Does man think that We shall not gather his bones? Yea! We are able to make complete his very “fingertips”.

Khalifa: Does the human being think that we will not reconstruct his bones? Yes indeed; we are able to reconstruct his “fingertip”.

Ahmed Ali: Does man think We shall not put his bones together? Surely We are able to reform even his “fingertips”.

As to background of these verses, the idolaters of Mecca—who had no idea of the Islamic concept of Resurrection, i.e. every humans would rise in perfect size and shape on the Judgment Day to answer questions to God/Allah—questioned Muhammad’s idea of resurrection of the dead and rotten. How could the scattered bones of the dead be put together to bring every dead individual to life, they asked? And, these two verses was Allah’s counter to such question of the Polytheists.

Different translations listed above gives a somewhat different rendering: it is talking about Allah’s ability to reassemble either the “fingertips” or the “fingers”.

Thus, these verses talk about fingertips or fingers, not fingerprints—the latter being unique to individuals. So, we once again see the opium-addicted hypnotic nature of Quranic miracle hunting Muslims, who are quick to discover ‘Big Bang’ from the letter ‘B’ in the Quran.

Terminology

(From this pro-Islam article, Fingerprints and the human identity):

The Arabic word ‘banan’ has been rendered as fingertips or fingers in this verse. According to Arabic scholar Ibn Mandhour ‘banan’ in Arabic stands for:

  • Tip of the finger of hands and feet (banana means whole finger);
  • Joints of fingers.

While, according to scholar Khortobi: ‘banan’ means “fingers”, 'banana' being its singular form.

Thus, ‘banan’ may mean:

  1. Fingers (pl),
  2. Fingertips,
  3. Finger-joints.

Now let me now make a couple of conclusions:

  1. The translations of this verse suggest that it is not talking about “fingerprints” at all, but about “fingertips” or “fingers” (Fingerprints are a different thing from fingertips/fingers). If we take into consideration of other meanings of the word ‘banan’, it may also be talking about “finger-joints”.
  2. What I think about this verse is that it talks about Allah’s ability of assembling scattered “bones” of the dead, not at all about “skin”, which contain fingerprints.

My feeling is that, while revealing this verse, Allah (aka Muhammad) had meant finger-joints, that is, Allah ability to assembling finger-joints—meaning joining finger-bones in right order.

Whatever the meaning, this verse does not talk about fingerprints at all, except to blindfolded Quranic miracle hunters. ‘Banan’ cannot mean “fingerprint”. None of the translators says so. Neither does any tafsirist or interpreters of the Quran as I include four tafsirs below.

1. Maududi tafsir:

That is, ‘Not to speak of building up your skeleton once again by gathering together the major bones? We are able to make whole the most delicate parts of your body, even your finger tips, as they used to be before.’

2. Ibn Abbâs tafsir:

(Yea, verily) I am capable of doing so. (Yea, We are able to restore his very fingers!) We are able to gather his fingers, such that his palm becomes like the hoof of a camel or beasts. He says: We are able to make his hand look like the hoof of a camel, so how is it that We cannot restore his bones?

3. Jalalyn tafsir:

Yes, indeed!, We shall assemble them. We are able, in addition to assembling them, to reshape [even] his fingers, that is to say, to restore their bones just as they had been, despite their smallness: so how much more so [are We able to restore] the larger ones!

4. Ibn Kathir tafsir:

…[the verse means] ‘does man think that We will not gather his bones Surely, We will gather them and We are quite able to put together his fingertips. This means Our power is suitable to gather (and recreate) them, and if We wished We could surely resurrect him with more than what he originally had. We could make his Banan, which are the tips of his fingers, all equal (in length).’

Quran not the first to tell ‘fingerprints are unique’

Now let us now agree that this verse truly talk about “fingerprints”, however impossible it may.

But was Quran the first to tell us about uniqueness of fingerprints? No, it is not.

Use of fingerprints to protect documents against forgery goes back to Babylonia some 2,500 years before Islam (i.e. 20th-19th century BCE), when parties to legal contracts impressed their fingerprints into the clay-tablets on which contracts had been written. Chinese officials impressed their fingerprints in clay-seals to seal official documents as early as the third century BCE, a practice that continued in China as they discovered paper and started using it for writing legal documents. Arab Muslim merchant Abu Zayd Hasan, while visiting China before 851 CE, witnessed Chinese merchants using fingerprints to authenticate loans.

Even forensic use of fingerprints, such as to keep records of criminals, goes back thousands of years before Islam. During Babylonian king Hammurabi (1792–1750 BCE), law-officials fingerprinted arrested criminals; in China, handprints were used as evidence in a trial for theft c. 300 CE. In 650 CE, the Chinese historian Kia Kung-Yen remarked that fingerprints could be used as a means of authentication. While Persian physician Rashid-al-Din Hamadani (1247–1318), referring to Chinese practice, wrote in his Jami al-Tawarikh:

"Experience shows that no two individuals have fingers exactly alike."

Conclusion

The Quranic verse 75:4 does not talk about “fingerprints” or its uniqueness at all. Moreover, humanity has known and used the uniqueness of fingerprints for identification purposes since ages before the coming of Islam.

Another Quranic miracle busted!!!


See Fingerprint, Wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprint#cite_note-20


M. A. Khan is the author of Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery, and the editor of islam-watch.org website.

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Forget It !!!
written by Truth Detector , September 25, 2009
NO, NO, NO, there isn't anthing unique in Satan's Bible, sometimes called the Qur'an. There is only evil in Satan's Bible, sometimes called the Qur'an, because it has for its author Satan, sometimes called Allah. So far, no one has proven that there is a lesson on Justice, Morality, or Love of Neighbor. Find any of these lessons, and I'll put dirt in my mouth.

Before this story about fingertips, or fingerprints, Islam Watch complains about Muslim police not coming to the aid of non Muslims. These Muslim police were prohibited by Satan, sometimes called Allah, from helping infidels in trouble. The following suras taken from Satan's Bible, sometimes called the Qur'an, proves that the Muslim police couldn't help infidels because they had to comply with Satan, sometimes callled Allah. These police couldn't act like Christians or Jews. No way.

THESE MUSLIMS HAD TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION TO REMAIN GOOD MUSLIMS. Proof follows from Satan's Bible:

"Take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends," (Sura 5 Verse 61 and Sura 60 Verse 13). Now, can you understand why Muslims can't help infidels?

"Never be a helper to the disbeliever," (Sura 28 Verse 26). Am I opening your eyes? A Muslim would go to hell and not receive those 72 virgins if he helped an infidel.

"The unbelievers are the worst beasts in the eyes of Allah,"(Sura 8 Verse 55). Why do expect Muslims to help the "worst of beasts"? No way !!

Not only must Muslims refrain from helping infidels, they're supposed to go out of their way and kill infidels. Quote from Satan's Bible: "Kill the disbelievers wherever you find them,"(Sura 2 Verse 191). Do you see what I mean?

Going back to Satan's Bible, sometimes called the Qur'an, speaking about miracles. Forget it. Paedophile Muhammad was too busy playing with his many playmates in his private whorehouse. Well, old Mo called them wivies, but you know how that goes. That child molester Muhammad didn't know diddlely squat about fingerprints.
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Puzzle Solved
written by Truth Detector , September 25, 2009
Notice that Muslims stay focused on "fingertips" and not "fingerprints" when they're speaking about the "miracles of the Qur'an." Why is this? Over and over, the Muslims mention fingertips, and how Allah, actually Satan, will some day restore fingertips. Why is this?

Allah, actually Satan, knows that Muslims will be cutting off lots and lots of fingertips. And in case some infidels have any doubts, allow me to quote a bit from Satan's Bible, sometimes called the Qur'an.

Quote: "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their FINGERTIPS off them," (Sura 8 Verse 12).
So despite the fact that many "fingertips" will be severed from the body and possibly lost, Allah, actually Satan, "will be able to find the fingertips and restore them, and put them back on the body." Can you now understand? In other words, there will be no problem for Satan, sometimes called Allah.

There is something else that infidels must be aware about. Muslims are the biggest liars in the world. Muslims will go so far as to say that "Islam is the religion of peace." Isn't that a gasser?

Also, Muslims are very good at twisting words. When you give them the finger, they interpret that act as your giving them the "fingerprints."
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satan in religion
written by Jjohn , September 25, 2009
Hello TD

Great to see one form of religious nuttiness at odds with another.

You give the impression that criticism of Islam is irrational and based on theological differences best understood by people whose cheese might be stacked a bit high for their cracker... if you know what I mean.

It would seem that the issue is not that Muslims might kill and die for their god... they're just killing and dying for the wrong god.

In my opinion, you trivialize this discussion and affect the credibility of this website in a negative way.

The people who would kill and die for their god from Abraham the patriarch to Bin Laden have caused about enough mischief in this world.

In my opinion, of course.
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Science from the Brains of Mad Mo
written by Manzikert , September 25, 2009
Everybody, do read the following compilation of Quranic (Mentally Retarded Muhammed Bin Shaitan's) Science.

Compiled ESPECIALLY for Brainless, Braindead, Cranky, Kiddish, Stupid, Cry-baby, Angry, Terrifying, Half-Mad, Half-Blind, Half-Dumb, Half-Human, etc.................... Followers of the Mentally Retarded Criminal (Muhammed Bin Shaitan)

Bukhari:V4B55N546 "Allah's Apostle said, 'Gabriel has just now told me of the answer. If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble him, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her.'"
Tabari I:258
Qur'an 15:26 "Allah created Adam from sticky clay, meaning viscous and sweet smelling slime, being stinking. It became stinking slime after having been compact soil."
Qur'an 80:17 "Be cursed man! He has self-destructed. From what stuff did He create him? From nutfa (male and female semen drops) He created him and set him in due proportion."
Tabari I:258 "Allah sent Gabriel to the earth to bring Him some clay. The earth said, 'I take refuge in Allah against you mutilating me. Then He sent the angel of death. He took some soil from the earth and made a mixture. He did not take it from a single place but took red, white, and black soil. Therefore, the children of Adam came out different."
Bukhari:V4B54N430 "Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, 'Regarding the matter of the creation of a human being: humans are put together in the womb of the mother in forty days. Then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period. He becomes a piece of flesh for forty days. Then Allah sends an angel who is ordered to write four things: the new creature's deeds, livelihood, date of death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched. He will do whatever is written for him.'"
Tabari I:293 "When Allah cast Adam down from Paradise, Adam's feet were on earth while his head was in heaven. He became too familiar with the angels and they were in awe of him so much so that they complained to Allah in their various prayers. Allah, therefore, lowered Adam. But Adam missed what he used to hear from the angels and felt lonely. He complained to Allah and was sent to Mecca. On the way every place where he set foot became a village, and the interval between his steps became a desert until he reached Mecca."
Bukhari:V4B54N482 "Allah's Apostle said, 'The Hell Fire complained to its Lord saying, "O my Lord! My different parts are eating each other up." So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in winter, the other in summer. This is the reason for the severe heat and bitter cold you find in weather.'"
Bukhari:V1B10N510 "Allah's Apostle said, 'If it is very hot, the severity of the heat is from the raging of the Hell Fire.'"
Qur'an 56:58 "Then tell Me the semen that you emit, throwing out. Is it you who create it, or are We the Creators? [It's only natural - the god of lust is the god of semen.] We have decreed/predestined/ordained Death for you all, and We are not to be frustrated from replacing you with others in (forms) that you know not."
Ishaq:255 "Jewish rabbis came to the Apostle and asked him to answer four questions saying, 'If you do so we will follow you, testify to your truth, and believe in you.' They began, 'Why does a boy resemble his mother when the semen comes from the father?' Muhammad replied, 'Do you not know that a man's semen is white and thick and a woman's is yellow and thin? The likeness goes with that which comes to the top.' 'Agreed,' the rabbis proclaimed. 'Tell us about your sleep.' 'Do you not know that a sleep which you allege I do not have is when the eye sleeps but the heart is awake?' 'Tell us about what Israel [Jacob] voluntarily forbade himself.' 'Do you not know that the food he loved best was the flesh and milk of camels or perhaps two lobes of liver, kidneys, and fat?' 'Tell us about the spirit.' ''Do you not know that it is Gabriel, he who comes to me?' 'Agreed,' the rabbis said. 'But Muhammad, your spirit is an enemy to us, an angel who comes only with violence and the shedding of blood, and were it not for that we would follow you."
Qur'an 33:72 "We did indeed offer the opportunity to the Heavens, the Earth, the Mountains, but they refused to take it, being afraid (of Allah's torment). But man undertook it. He was unjust and foolish. Lo, he has proved a tyrant and fool, ignorant. Allah has to punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Unbelievers."
Tabari I:232 "Gabriel brings to the sun a garment of luminosity from the light of Allah's Throne according to the measure of the hours of the day. The garment is longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, and of intermediate length in autumn and spring. The sun puts on that garment as one of you here puts on his clothes."
Tabari I:233 "When the Messenger was asked about that, he replied, 'When Allah was done with His creation He created two suns from the light of His Throne. His foreknowledge told Him that He would efface one and change it to a moon; so the moon is smaller in size."
Tabari I:234 "Allah thus sent Gabriel to drag his wing three times over the face of the moon, which at the time was a sun. He effaced its luminosity and left the light in it. This is what Allah means: [in Qur'an 17:12] 'We have blotted out the sign of the night, and We have made the sign of the day something to see by.' The blackness you can see as lines on the moon is a trace of the blotting."
Tabari I:244 "Allah then created for the sun a chariot with 360 handholds from the luminosity of the light of the Throne and entrusted 360 of the angels inhabiting the lower heaven with the sun and its chariot, each of them gripping one of those handholds. Allah also entrusted 360 angels with the moon."
Tabari I:234 "Then the Prophet said: 'For the sun and the moon, Allah created easts and wests on the two sides of the earth and the two rims of heaven. There are 180 springs in the west of black clay-this is why Allah's word says: "He found the sun setting in a muddy spring." [18:86] The black clay bubbles and boils like a pot when it boils furiously.'"
Qur'an 18:83 "They ask you about Dhu'l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, 'I will cite something of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals. So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people."
Tabari I:236 "'When the sun rises upon its chariot from one of those springs it is accompanied by 360 angels with outspread wings.... When Allah wishes to test the sun and the moon, showing His servants a sign and thereby getting them to obey, the sun tumbles from the chariot and falls into the deep end of that ocean. When Allah wants to increase the significance of the sign and frighten His servants severely, all of the sun falls and nothing of it remains in the chariot. That is a total eclipse of the sun. It is a misfortune for the sun.'"
Tabari I:235 "Allah's Apostle said, 'Allah created an ocean three farakhs (918 kilometers) removed from heaven. Waves contained, it stands in the air by the command of Allah. No drop of it is spilled. All the oceans are motionless, but that ocean flows at the speed of an arrow. The sun, moon and retrograde stars [planets] by which Allah swears in the Qur'an [81:15], run like the sun and moon and race. All of the other stars are suspended from heaven as lamps are from mosques, and circulate together praising Allah. The Prophet said, 'If you wish to have this made clear, look to the circulation of the sphere alternately here and there.'"
Tabari I:236 "Allah created two cities out in space, each with ten thousand gates, each 6 kilometers distant from the other. By Allah, were those people not so many and so noisy, all the inhabitants of this world would hear the loud crash made by the sun falling when it rises and when it sets. Gabriel took me to them during my Night Journey from the Sacred Mosque [the Ka'aba] to the Farthest Mosque [the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem]. I told the people of these cities to worship Allah but they refused to listen to me."
Bukhari:V4B54N421 "I walked hand in hand with the Prophet when the sun was about to set. We did not stop looking at it. The Prophet asked, 'Do you know where the sun goes at sunset?' I replied, 'Allah and His Apostle know better.' He said, 'It travels until it falls down and prostrates Itself underneath the Throne. The angels who are in charge of the sun prostrate themselves, also. The sun asks permission to rise again. It is permitted. Then it will prostrate itself again but this prostration will not be accepted. The sun then says, "My Lord, where do You command me to rise, from where I set or from where I rose?" Allah will order the sun to return whence it has come and so the sun will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the statement of Allah in the Qur'an.'"
Qur'an 36:38 "The sun keeps revolving in its orbit at the dispensation of the All-Knowing. And the Moon, We have measured for her mansions till she returns like dried date stalks. It is not permitted for the Sun to overtake the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day. Each (just) swims along, floating in (its own) orbit as a Sign as in a race. And we made similar vessels [chariots] for them to ride. But we could have drowned them if we pleased."
Tabari I:332 "The sun and the moon were in eclipse for seven days and nights."
Qur'an 67:3 "We created seven heavens, one above the other. Muhammad, can you see any fault in Ar-Rahman's creation? Look again: Can you see any rifts or fissures? Then look again and yet again. Your gaze turns back dazed and tired. We have adorned the lowest skies with lamps, and We have made them missiles to drive away the devils and against the stone Satans, and for them We have prepared the doom of Hell and the penalty of torment in the most intense Blazing Fire."
Qur'an 38:27 "We have not created the heavens and earth and all that lies between for nothing."
Qur'an 21:26 "Don't the unbelievers see that the heavens and earth were joined together in one piece before we clove them asunder? ...Will they not believe? And We have set on the earth mountains as stabilizers, lest the earth should convulse without them. And We have made therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. We have made the heaven a roof well guarded. Yet they turn away from its Signs! All (the celestial bodies) swim along, on a course, floating."
Qur'an 2:189 "They ask you about the New Moons. Say: They are but signs to mark fixed seasons in (the affairs of) men, and for Hajj Pilgrimage."
Tabari I:204 "I asked the Prophet, 'Where was Allah before His creation?' Muhammad replied: 'He was in a cloud with no air underneath or above it.'"
Tabari I:219 "When Allah wanted to create the creation, He brought forth smoke from the water. The smoke hovered loftily over it. He called it 'heaven.' Then He dried out the water and made it earth. He split it and made it seven earths on Sunday. He created the earth upon a big fish, that being the fish mentioned in the Qur'an. By the Pen, the fish was in the water. The water was upon the back of a small rock. The rock was on the back of an angel. The angel was on a big rock. The big rock was in the wind. The fish became agitated. As a result, the earth quaked, so Allah anchored the mountains and made it stable. This is why the Qur'an says, 'Allah made for the earth firmly anchored mountains, lest it shake you up.'"
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More Quranic Inconsistencies
written by Anti Clot , September 25, 2009
While muslims claim that the quran is the one and only true revealation and that the bible was faked, the facts reveal something totally different. Surah 12 (Yusuf aka Joseph) for example was copied almost literally from the bible including the historical error that Joseph was sold for coins which did not exist during this time. Coins were introduced in the Middle East by the Lydeans around 600 bc and later by the greeks. However, the quran speaks about dirhams which were definetely not in use during the alleged time of Joseph aka Yusuf in Egypt in 1200 bc or so. The first coins worldwide were introduced around 800 bc in China but there was no minting at all in Egypt. Nevertheless some islamic "scientists" try in a desperate move to convince the world that some charms or amuletts which were found must now be considered to be coins. However, there is no doubt about that because the archaeologists know the situation in Egypt very well and there are no indications at all that the early Egyptians were capable of minting coins or had even an idea of it. Here we can also very clearly see how the quran draw mistakes from the bible. Interestingly, some christians and even jews are welcoming the "discoveries" of the islamic "scholars" as "evidence" that jews were settling long before the palaestineans in Israel before they left Egypt. It remains very interesting to watch how this discussion will develop.
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Nice Article!
written by Supergaga , September 25, 2009
A typical overinterpretation by islamists to suggest that there is some science hidden in the quran. But where is it written in Surah 75 that people can be identified by his finger prints? That is definetely not written in the Surah. Instead it is written later at he end of the surah that humans are made from sperm gushed out which then turned into a blood-clot and then into a human being. This alone is such a nonsense that we cannot consider the surah scientific in any regard.
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Some More deficiency
written by Me , September 25, 2009
Well, I consider Quran as a remarkable text in its time. But it is no way something metaphysical.
The problem with the fingerprints claim is that fingerprints reliability is less as opposed to iris scanning. So it is easily deduced that if the claim is also true, then Quran also did not suggest the best identification method which contradicts it being metaphysical.
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written by Someone , September 25, 2009
I wonder how long it will take before the claims of big eyed virgins in paradise will be interpreted as the iris scan you mention lol.
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God of Abraham
written by cjk , September 25, 2009
Anyone who confuses The God of Abraham with allah is either ignorant or an idiot. The mohammedans and atheists at this site constantly make this mistake and thereby expose their ignorance to those who actually have knowledge of what they speak about. The broadsweeping statements of the moral relativists just show their laziness and ignorance.
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written by cjk , September 25, 2009
Remarkable? Remarkably violent, remarkably unspiritual, remarkably contradictory, remarkably tedious to read, remarkably what?? Give me an example of this remarkableness.
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written by JohanM , September 25, 2009
Arabian polythiests/pagans asked this...

"As to background of these verses, the idolaters of Mecca—who had no idea of the Islamic concept of Resurrection, i.e. every humans would rise in perfect size and shape on the Judgment Day to answer questions to God/Allah—questioned Muhammad’s idea of resurrection of the dead and rotten. How could the scattered bones of the dead be put together to bring every dead individual to life, they asked? And, these two verses was Allah’s counter to such question of the Polytheists."

Yet Muslims consider them (Pre-Islamic Arabians) Jahils from Jahiliya. To me the people who asked this question were truely rationale and thoughtfull people. In Arabia Jahiliya started only after the advent of Islam. Only muslims can believe in crap like hell, heaven and resurrection without thinking.
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katlu mullas r saying finger print,and koran says
written by katlu mullas r saying finger p , September 26, 2009
katlu mullas r saying finger print,and koran says tip there is a difference in both.

finger tip and finger print r both different things,koran says one katlu mullas say soemthing else.

these ppl will go to any extent to lie and fib and
make an ass of themself.



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written by vbv , September 26, 2009
Hahahaha! Tip of the fingers as stated in the Quran is misinterpreted as 'fingerprints'. This is how Zakir Naik and Haroun Yahayah promote the so-called science in the Quran. The same goes for their cosnmology in Sura 21 verses 30-31 , which only talks of Earth and the heavens(skies?) stuck together and this cheap spook Allah tearing them asunder for the ground and sky to appear. This is just copied from Genesis and is nowhere close to what science describes as the "Big Bang theory" of the origins of this Universe.

Lies,obfuscations,misinterpretations,misrepresentations
are all the hallmarks of the cult of islam and their followers. They say that all that has been invented and discovered in science and technology and those that are yet to be invented and discovered are all contained in the Quran. I have never come across a greater bullshitting than this. The Quran is a small book of some 6,600 odd verses of bullshits , not Britanica Encyclopedia or Encarta.

If Quran is so progressive and advanced ,why are muslims so backward , intolerant and barbaric? If all of science are found in the Quran ,why they haven't discovered automobiles,railways ,aeroplanes, Televisions,Mobile phones,telecommunication systems,electricity, machines ,watches, etc. Above all why they could not even discover the oil on which they were sitting for 1300 years? Why they could not even design and manufacture the OIl Rig to extract the Oil? Strange ,isn't it? Muslims are empty windbags ,cowards who will kill iinnocent unarmed civilians, backstabbers , and above all the greatest liars and the most shameful idiots who will not hesitate to usurp the fruits of others labour and endeavour. Honesty is certainly not the hallmark of a true muslim ,like they rob the biblical patriarchs and stories and claim it as their own. Extremely brazen ,immoral ,conscienceless , intolerant and savagely barbaric: that is the trait of a good muslim.

It is best to laugh away the stupid ,improbable claims made by muslims for which they no proofs except the stone-age inanities and bullshits of their unholy shitbook called Quran which they will interpret any way to suit their nefarious purposes.
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Answer
written by Anti Clot , September 26, 2009
Why didnt invent the muslims anything? This answer is easy: Because even if there were any scientific miracles hidden in the quran (which is laughable), it did not contribute anything to the scientifc resources in the muslim world. Why? Because science is not to be revealed by a god or a guru. Science means that humans have to discover and to understand it. Without this understanding it is without any use. In contrast, the islamic view is that humans gets something as a gift from Allah for praying. But this is not the case. Humans have to learn and to work in order to get knowledge. With only memorising stupid ancient texts, people learn nothing to impreove their lifes.
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Harun Yahya
written by ciccio , September 27, 2009
Anything coming from this charlatan can only be considered in the humour catagory. On Richard Dawkin's website is a video that shows a hand-tied fishing fly appearing in Yahya's book as an actual insect.
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Mr
written by Anti-Ape , September 28, 2009
I couldn't find any clue from this article rather then nauseating lines without clear conclusion...in any language word means different meanings, i know Arabic better then you blind eye, locked souls. it is clearly stated much more then your evolution theory full of gaps... now i know, truly you all changed into Apeheads...All of your articles are useless ranting and full of nonsense...in fact you indeed can't find any contradiction in Holy Koran, learn about evil plans of the West... conspiracy theories...the worst thing: you were all muslims...the end will be excruciating...
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Quran predicts atomic hell
written by yousuf gabriel , October 06, 2009


NAME OF THE BOOK : QURAN PREDICTS ATOMIC HELL
AUTHOR: ALLAMA MUHAMMAD YOUSUF GABRIEL
PRICE: RS. 30
PUBLISHER IDARA TASNIFATE GABRIEL
NAWABABAD WAH CANTT
DISTT RAWALPINDI
www.oqasa.org
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Review from: ABDUL GHAFAR AAMIR, ISLAMBAD.

A discovery made by the author first time in history, unknown to the non-Muslim world and Muslims world alike. The book under review is the nucleus of author's fourteen volumes written in English and an equal number in Urdu. According to the author, it has become obvious beyond any doubt that no protection is possible to supply the entire population with any means of protection: against the atomic radiations. So also the atomic war appears inevitable despite every assurance. The doomed mankind, doomed to a painful and disgraceful end is only ostriching. It is not a lay man's opinion nor could it be cast a side just as an alarmist view. Rather the majority of the atomic scientists all over the world have by and by come to this very conclusion. It appears strange that such a warning should come from the Quran which is generally regarded as a mere book of religion. This no doubt is a mistaken view, for, the Quran has more than once claimed to contain every possible example for man. If the Quran has mentioned the destruction of the people of Aad and THAMUD, and SODOM and GOMMORAH, destroyed due to divine punishment habitations that had comparatively negligible populations. How the Quran should omit the mention of an agent capable of annihilating the entire life on earth, human, and vegetation, rendering the earth incapable of appearance and growth of life for millions of years.
The warning of the Quran comprises the brief, indeed very brief chapter called Al-Homaza, containing about thirty-six words. In this warning the Quran has mentioned the three main characteristics of this modern science-guided Baconian culture of atomism as the basic logical and scientific cause of the appearance of atomic hell. The three main characteristics are slander (propaganda) accumulation f wealth and counting it, and a belief in the eternity of the wealth thus accumulated. It is hard for anyone to miss these characteristics as the manifest feature of this present age. Nor any student of the social, economical, cultural and scientific evolution of this modern age could easily miss the link between the three characteristics pointed out by the Quran and the appearance of the atomic bomb and its associates unitedly called by the Quran as Hotama, that is the atomic hell. Quran has used the term Hotama. Hotama is a sort of a hell in the other world, with features different and distinguished from the rest of the hells existing there. The atomic hell of this present world (as is named even by the scientists themselves) is the replica of the Hotama of the next world, just as the ordinary chemical fire serves as the reminiscence of the ordinary hell of the next hell of the next world. The three habits which the Quran has given out for the punishment in the hell of Hotama are obviously those responsible for the appearance of atomic bomb.
Fourteen centuries ago the production of the revival of the 500 B.C. Democratic philosophy of Atomism in the form of the modern philosophy of Baconian atomism (something apparently improbable at that time,) and the knowledge that of the tree main characteristics of the modern science-guided progressive culture of Baconian atomism as are mentioned above, and above all this the scientific characterization of the atomic fire, rather the nuclear fire, in terms which distinguish the nuclear fire from the chemical fire as is to be found in Quran's chapter under discussion, are the facts known to no one but God himself. Here is then an argument irrefutable for the divine original of the Quran. Undeniable even by the scientists. No philosopher or wise man of this modern age, not even Bertrand Russel, has ever hinted upon the root-causes of the appearance of the atomic hell, namely, the slander, wealth accumulation and the belief in the eternity of this wealth. The credit of this discovery goes to the Quran. The philosophers on the other hand have been making their futile appeals to this mankind to forget their quarrels in order to avoid the atomic ruin. Now proportional to the increase in their knowledge of the havoc of the atomic bombs, the pitch of the cry of the humanity against the atomic bombs is on the rise, but the circumstances clearly show as if this humanity is doomed to atomic annihilation. Bertrand Russel in his letter to author in 1964 was not a miss when he declared the end of this humanity in the atomic bomb. No power on earth can save this world from the nuclear doom. This warning and the guidance therein by the Quran appears to be the only hope for the mankind to escape the painful and disgraceful end. This indeed figures as the Noah's Ark in this fiery deluge of this present world. The study of the subject treated in this book under review clearly reveals that the true appreciation of the scientific side of the subject is for a physicist of the caliber of Einstein, while the Quranic side is reserved for a commentator of the level of Razi. Yet it appears something surprising that anyone with average understanding could apprehend the topic. The matter contained by the book both on the Quran's and science's side is so manifest that no need for either quotations of bibliography is felt. The subject appears as a challenge to the modern scientist in reference to Quran's general challenge to the human and the Jinn collectively to compose a chapter like the Quran.
Abdul Ghafar AAmir,
Pakistan Observer daily,
Islamabad. Pakistan
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Accumulation of wealth and Atomic bomb
written by yousuf gabriel , November 06, 2009
WEALTH ACCUMULATION PROPAGANDA AND ATOMIC BOMB.
By Allama Muhammad Yousuf Gabriel
www.oqasa.org
How to escape the atomic doom? The philosophers of this modern age have failed to expose the real cause of the trouble. Their view has been limited to the quarrels and production. The study of this Baconian modern atomism reveals that it is a culture of science-guided process, systematic, ever-increasing, continuous and infinite progress, which is a means of wealth accumulation appearing as if this process will continue forever. Thus engrossment in wealth accumulation and a notion of the eternity of this process of wealth accumulation are the manifest characteristics of this particular culture. A study of the subject from Galileo's astronomy through Darwin's biology to Einstein's relativity, and from the railway engine to the hydrogen bomb reveals explicitly that the desire of wealth and worldly facilities have been the incentive. The greed of a stage that the accumulation of the wealth because the sole object of man's life, and wealth assume the form of a deity to be worshipped all over the world with a belief in its eternity The influence of faith gradually dwindled and the sense of religion almost vanished. Thus the root of the trouble is greed. Another feature of this culture is propaganda which has assumed the intellectualized form of slander and back-binding, in this age. And just as when these ingredients of dynamites combine, the result is explosive, when these three ingredients, namely, the propaganda, engrossment in wealth accumulation, and belief in the eternity of wealth combine, the result is atomic explosion. The atomic fire is the scientific philosophical and logical result of these three habits. To escape therefore the horrible atomic doom in the blazing fires of atomic hell, the eradication of these three habits is essential.
Allama Muhammad Yousuf Gabriel
Adara Afqar e Gabriel,
Quaid e Azam Street Nawababad Wah Cantt
Distt Rawalpindi
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The wandering of disbelievers
written by sabih , December 08, 2010
And We send down of the Qur'an that which is healing and mercy for the believers, but it does not increase the wrongdoers except in loss. (Quran 17:82)

Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided.
Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.
Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].
Or [it is] like a rainstorm from the sky within which is darkness, thunder and lightning. They put their fingers in their ears against the thunderclaps in dread of death. But Allah is encompassing of the disbelievers. (Quran 2: 16-19)
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evilbibledotcom
written by blind , February 17, 2011
@Truth Detector islam didn't create it the jews and christians did if you are an infidel ok then if you are a christian EVILBIBLE=STONING!!! A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB) KILL ALL NON-CHRISTIANS= Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB) Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)
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evilbibledotcom
written by blind , February 17, 2011
@Truth Detector you say there is nothing unique at the quran than you show us qoutes that the quran overtaken from the bible and jewish thora but what is with all the science in the quran?the quran is the only unchanged and perfect book without contradictions all christians try to post a contradiction fails the bible IS changed by human hands and this is a fact how can a book that got changed and faked be a holy book?

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