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Kashmir: Propagation of Islam and Terror of the Sufis

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How did Islam come to Kashmir? — Through the peaceful missionary preaching of the Sufis, comes the answer. But reality was horrendous and devastating for the Hindus of Kashmir, thanks to the Sufis.


How did Islam come to Kashmir? — Through the peaceful missionary preaching of the Sufis, comes the answer.

Sufis have been universally credited with the propagation of Islam, peacefully, around the world. An Islamic legend tells us that there was a king in Kashmir, at an uncertain point in time, who had no religion. One day, he wished to adopt a religion. Both Muslims and Hindus came to convince him. Their contradictory views left him rather confused, and resolved that, "he would embrace the religion of the first man he would meet in the street after coming out of his house the next morning" [Chapter 2, Baharistan-i-Shahi, an anonymous 17th-century Persian book on the history of Kashmir, translated by Prof. K. N. Pundit]. And it was a dervish [Sufi master], whom he encountered first the next morning. There he became a Muslim, and Kashmir became Islamic.

In many places, one encounters very similar Islamic legends: that a Sufi, through his supernatural power or this and that, converts a king. Thus, the place becomes Islamic peacefully—thanks to Islam’s prophets of peace, the Sufis.

A Kashmiri ex-Muslim friend, who wants eradication of Islam because of its barbaric teachings, nonetheless, told me about how Islam, however abhorrent and barbaric in nature, came to Kashmir through the peaceful preaching of Sufis. And now, how this peaceful valley of Islam has become a land of barbarism, thanks to Wahhabism—which he calls the real Quranic and prophetic Islam!!

And this impression, that Islam was peacefully propagated in Kashmir and around the world by the Sufis, is universally entertained by Muslim and non-Muslim scholars and historians alike. Ask Dr. Yoginder Sikant, the prominent scholar and historian of Islam, and an alleged specialist in Sufism. He would tell you the same.

And this paradigm is being successfully and exclusively propagated despite the fact that available historical records give an opposite picture.

It is hard to know when Islamic rule was established in Kashmir. Muhammad bin Qasim was in the preparation for an invasion of Kashmir in 715. Thereafter, Kashmir suffered a number of Islamic invasions; Sultan Mahmud, the master barbarian (although idolized by Muslims), had also led a failed expedition there. Caliph al-Mansur (r. 755–74) had sent an expedition under Hasham bin Amru for waging holy war against Hindu territories. Amongst many places, between Kandahar and Kashmir, he conquered, he “subdued Kashmir and took many prisoners and slave” [Elliot & Dawson, History of India as Told by Its Historians (it contains experts from Islamic chronicles), Vol. I, p. 122–23,203]. In 1033, Sultan Mahmud’s not-so-illustrious son, Sultan Masud I, made up for his illustrious father’s failure by launching “an attack on the fort of Sursuti in Kashmir. The entire garrison was put to the sword, except the women and children, who were carried away as slaves.”

While it is hard to establish which of these invasions established Islamic rule in Kashmir, the Sufis, Islam’s alleged prophets of peace, however had a prominent role in its Islamization, but it was a barbaric one.

About conversion of the masses to Islam in Kashmir, we get an idea of it around 1371 or 1381 CE, when Sayyid Ali Hamdani, a famous Sufi saint, arrived in Kashmir. The first thing he did was to build his khanqah [lodge or ashram] on the site of “a small temple which was demolished…” [Baharistan, p. 36]. Before his coming to Kashmir, the reigning Sultan Qutbud-Din paid little attention to enforcing Islamic laws. In the tolerant local culture, Muslims at all levels of the society—including the Sultan, the Qadis [Qazi]—had all tolerantly and comfortably submerged themselves in the Hindu culture and customs of Kashmir [ibid, p. 37].

But Sufi saint Sayyid Hamdani was horrified by the un-Islamic practices of Kashmiri Muslims, and forbade this laxity and tried to revive orthodoxy. The reigning Sultan Qutbud-Din tried to adopt Islamic orthodoxy in his personal life, but “failed to propagate Islam in accordance with the wishes and aspirations of Amir Sayyid Ali Hamdani” [ibid]. As a result, the Sufi saint left Kashmir because of his reluctance to live in a land dominated by the idolatrous culture, customs and creed.

Later on, his son Amir Sayyid Muhammad, another great Sufi saint, came to Kashmir during the reign of the famous idol-breaker, Sultan Sikander. Sikander was not such a barbarian until the arrival of holy Sufi saint Sayyid Muhammad, who prodded the Sultan into enforcing the Islamic code in his domain. Unlike Sultan Qutbud-Din, Sikander agreed to the Sufi saint’s instruction. Sikander and Sayyid Muhammad, thus, formed an alliance to wipe out all signs of idolatry and its professors from Kashmir.

According to Muhammad Farishtah (d. 1614) [History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India, Vol. IV, 1997 imprint, p. 268], a historian of Delhi Sultan, Sikandar issued an order:

…proscribing the residence of any other than Mahomedans in Kashmeer; and he required that no man should wear the mark on his forehead... Lastly, he insisted on all golden and silver images being broken and melted down, and the metal coined into money. Many of the bramins [Brahmins], rather than abandon their religion or their country, poisoned themselves; some emigrated from their native homes, while a few escaped the evil of banishment by becoming Mahomedans. After the emigration of the bramins, Sikundur [Sikandar] ordered all the temples in Kashmeer to be thrown down… Having broken all the images in Kashmeer, he acquired the title of the Iconoclast, Destroyer of Idols.

According to another 17th-century Persian chronicle, HM Chadurah’s Tarikh-i-Kashmir, Sikandar “was constantly busy in annihilating the infidels and destroyed most of the temples...” [trans. Razia Bano, Delhi, 1991, p. 55].

This, to learned Farishtah, was Sultan Sikandar’s greatest achievement. And to whom goes the credit?

Find it out from the proud author of Baharistan-i-Shahi, who writes: “…the credit of wiping out the vestiges of infidelity and heresy from the mirror of the conscience of the dwellers of these lands,” goes to Sufi saint Sayyid Muhammad [p. 37].

Succeeding the Iconoclast, his son Ameer Khan (aka Ally Shah) continued the butchery of the remaining Hindus of Kashmir, as adds Farishtah, he “persecuted the few Brahmins who still remained firm in their religion; and by putting all to death, who refused to embrace Mahomedism. He drove those who still lingered in Kashmeer entirely out of that kingdom” [ibid, p. 269].

Next, the liberal and tolerant Sultan Zainul Abedin (1423–1474) brought relief to the brutalized non-Muslims: he allowed religious freedom, even let the forcibly converted Hindus to revert. This enabled the flourishing of Hinduism, “which had been stamped out in the [earlier] reign of Sultan Sikandar the Iconoclast” [ibid, p. 74]. Under deviant Zainul Abedin, records Sydney Owen, “many Hindus (i.e. Hindus converted to Islam by force) were re-admitted into the Hindu fold” [From Mahmud Ghazni to the Disintegration of Mughal Empire, Delhi, p. 127). The horrified author of Baharistan-i-Shahi notes of the ascendancy of Hinduism and decline of Islam under Sultan Zainul Abedin [p. 74]:

…the infidels and their corrupt and immoral practices attained such popularity that even the ulema, the learned [Sufis], the Sayyids [nobles] and the Qadis [Islamic judges] of this land began to observe them without exhibiting even the slightest repugnance for them. There was none to forbid them to do so. It resulted in a gradual weakening of Islam and a decay in its cannons and postulates; idol-worship and corrupt and immoral practices thrived.

And Zainul pursued his liberal policies, like Akbar, by defying and angering the pious. Persian scholar Mulla Ahmad, for example, wrote to him reminding that,

…the main object of levying the jiziyah on them is their humiliation… God established jiziyah for their dishonor. The object is their humiliation and the (establishment) of the prestige and dignity of the Muslims. [Quoted by KS Lal, Theory and Practice of Muslim State in India, p. 113]

But terror befell upon the non-Muslims of Kashmir again in the reigns of Malik Raina and Kaji Chak, who converted the Hindus to Islam by the sword, again instigated by another Sufi saint, Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad Iraqi, the greatest Sufi saint to arrive in Kashmir.

Iraqi arrived in Kashmir after Malik Musa Raina became the administrator of Kashmir (1501). He formed alliance with Malik Raina, and with his patronage and authority, says Baharistan-i-Shahi [p. 93–94]:

Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad undertook wholesale destruction of all those idol-houses as well as total ruination of the very foundation of infidelity and disbelief. On the site of every idol-house he destroyed, he ordered the construction of a mosque for offering prayers after the Islamic manner.

And “on the instance of Shamsud-Din Iraqi, Musa Raina had issued orders that everyday 1,500 to 2,000 infidels be brought to the doorstep of Mir Shamsud-Din by his followers. They would remove their sacred thread (zunnar), administer Kelima [Muslim profession of faith] to them, circumcise them and make them eat beef”; and, thus, “twenty-four thousand Hindu families were converted to Iraqi’s faith by force and compulsion (qahran wa jabran)” [ibid, p. 105–06].

Saintly Iraqi continued his horror acts, when Malik Kaji Chak became the military commander under Sultan Muhammad Shah in 1519. And “one of the major commands of Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad Iraqi carried out by him [Kaji Chak] was the massacre of the infidels and polytheists of this land,” says Baharistan-i-Shahi [p. 116]. What happened is that, many of those, forcibly converted to Islam by Malik Raina, later reverted to ‘polytheism’ [Hinduism]. Muslims spread a rumor that these apostates “had placed a copy of the holy Quran under their haunches to make a seat to sit upon.” Upon hearing this, the enraged Sufi saint protested to Kaji Chak, saying [ibid, p. 117]:

“This community of idolaters has, after embracing and submitting to the Islamic faith, now gone back to defiance and apostasy. If you find yourself unable to inflict punishment upon them in accordance with the provisions of Sharia [which is death for apostasy] and take disciplinary action against them, it will become necessary and incumbent upon me to proceed on a self-imposed exile.”

Note that Iraqi’s complaint does not mention the alleged disrespect of the Quran, but simply emphasize the Hindus’ abandonment of Islam after accepting it—i.e. their apostasy, punishment for which is death in Islam. In order to pacify the enraged Sufi saint, Malik Kaji Chak “decided upon carrying out wholesale massacre of the infidels,” says Baharistan-i-Shahi, which was scheduled to be carried out on the holy festival day of Ahsura [Muharram, 1518 CE; Iraqi was Shiite], and,

…about seven to eight hundred infidels were put to death. Those killed were the leading personalities of the community of infidels at that time. [p. 117]

Thereupon, “the entire community of infidels and polytheists in Kashmir was coerced into conversion to Islam at the point of the sword. This is one of the major achievements of Malik Kaji Chak,” adds the proud author of Baharistan-i-Shahi [p. 117].

This horrifying action, of course, was ordered by the great Sufi saint.

I need not say anything else to define the nature of the Sufis. Let me, however, emphasize that, Kashmir is flaunted by Muslims as the best example of peaceful penetration of Islam in India—thanks to peaceful Sufis, of course. And this is the story of the most peaceful Sufis that came to India from the Muslim world.

The story of other greatest Sufis of India is no better. They came, with their followers, as vicious Jihadi warriors to slaughter the infidels:

Moinuddin Chisti of Ajmer came with Muhammad Ghauri’s army, which treacherously defeated the humane and benevolent king Prithviraj Chauhan.

Nizamuddin Auliya participated in a Jihad war alongside Nasriruddin Qibacha in Multan.

Sheikh Shah Jalal, the great Sufi saint of Bangladesh, fought in a Jihadi war against Hindu king Ghor Govinda of Sylhet.

And all of these Sufi saints have claimed their role as decisive in winning those bloody wars. And such go the stories of most of the great Sufis—from India, to Africa, to the Balkan.


For more on horrible activities of Sufis, consult my book, "Islam Jihad", p. 115–133.

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Islam in any form is Madness of the worst kind
written by Manzikert , August 30, 2009
Islam in any form is Madness Personified. The only people who dont seem to understand this are the muslims..... who shamelessly worship the Madman from Arabia and try to convince everybody else that they are worshiping God Almight. Islam as a religion is Illogoical, Irrational, Crazy, Mad, Stupid, Silly, Useless, Unethical, etc, etc............... and its not me who says this.......... its all in the craziest and dumbest book known to man (The Holy Bullshit Koran).. along with the Hadiths and all the other crazy books that these Zombie followers of the Mentally Retarded Criminal call holy..
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Mystical isn\'t a synonym for Peaceful
written by HT , August 30, 2009
People confuse mystical with peaceful. Because Sufi are seen as mystical saints, people assume they spread Islam peacefully in India.

But where have the Sufis rejected Dar ul-Islam/Dar ul-Harb division of the world? Where have they rejected that atheists polytheists and idolators are not to be tolerated in an Islamic state and for them is conversion death or enslavement? Where have they rejected dhimmitude to those deemed worthy enough for second class humiliating status?

The Sufi brotherhood was an inspiration to the Muslim Brotherhood. Sufi mysticism does not mean non-violence and Western liberal ideals of tolerance.
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Essence of Sufism
written by Archpagan , August 30, 2009
Sufism is the deceptive mask of Islam. When the crunch comes Sufi s become the first to mutate into Wahhabi s. It was a Sufi 'saint' Ahmed Sirhindi who was the most vociferous critic of emperor Akbar's religious tolerance. Again, it was a Sufi fakir of Lucknow Shah Walliullah who invited Ahmad Shah Abdali of Afghanistan to invade India so as to reestablish Muslim rule in India. Finally, the butcher of the Noakhali riot of 1946, Golam Sarwar was descendant of a Sufi 'pir'.
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Islam liberated hindoo`s from subjugation!
written by Saladin , August 30, 2009
There is no doubt Islams blessed arrival in Hindia,was a liberating mission for low caste hindoo`s(90% of the pop).
A low caste hindoo,was forbidden from worshiping in the temple of the despotic brahmins,prohibited from drinking from the same well,living in the same town.They were even forbidden from walking on the shadow of the brahmins, on pain of death.They were deemed contaminated,unclean, untouchable,which still persists to this very day.
Islams egalitarian principles and values drew oppressed hindoo in their millions.it was these same hindoo(now muslim converts),who destroyed the theological despotism of the brahmins.Like the captive Africans in the USA,who destroyed the white mans plantation,so the muslim converts destroyed the temples of oppression.
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To Saladin and other bigots of Islam
written by Arnold , August 30, 2009
There is nothing called caste thing in hinduism , its called class system. The sword of Islam converted all hindus. The caste system came into picture when muslims entered India. India had well developed education system called Ashrams or pathshalas, had biggest university called "Nalanda' , which muslims destroyed.
The hindus built best architectural buildings and sculture, which muslims destroyed. Now also class system is there , not all become doctors, engineers, scientists, cab driver etc .
Still a doctor will not like to marry a road cleaner.
The biggest oppressor is Islam, The pakistan muslims hated bengali muslims as they were of dark color. The so called 'sheikhs', 'sayyeds', etc never marry to others.
Also the Saudi treat all other muslims including Pakistan muslims as scums.
The bengali muslims etc were treated like slaves paid just $60 per month and forced to work 14-15 hours 7 days a weak.
India is united due to hinduism and all know this . No muslim country can remain united as in Islam power struggle is imminent. Just see the taliban, they themselves fight within themselves for booty.
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To Saladin
written by Ramesh , August 30, 2009
Your knowledge is same as mullahs who know only about sex and mumbo jumo stories.
Buddhism and Jainism were Hinduism's sister religion. They are far far better than barbaric Islam and they could have converted to them instead. People converted to islam due to pain of death, treachery or jijiya. Still just few months ago many hindus and Sikhs came to india and requested for immigration, many were poor so called 'untoucables', They were offered Islam or jijiya and they left there house , business and everything for preserving hindu and sikh religion rather than converting to barbaric islam. Still many hindus prefer to die rather than convert in Pakistan or bangladesh.
Have you studied Hindu books like vedas , puranas, Ramayana or Mahabharata, there Just like Doctor, Professor, carpenter etc the person has to earn his varna or designation.
When muslims destroyed ashrams, unfortunately the skills started passing from generation to generation and this is changing nowadays.
Any society needs 4 classes , like europe now is not encouraging its citizens who art neither good in studies or creative to work in monotonous work like plumber, electrician, mill worker, cab driver.
These they are importing from 3 world muslim countries , who in turn and creating ghettoes and creating Islam blocks and terrorism is natural by-product of islam.
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Pitty Muslims
written by Manzikert , August 30, 2009
Muslims are slaves of a Mentally Retarded Arab Criminal. Pray for all muslims that their minds may be liberated from slavery.
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Islam liberated hindoo from oppression!
written by Saladin , August 30, 2009
Islam`s blessed arrival upon the sub continent,was a saving grace for low caste hindoo(90% of the pop).
It was ordained by the despotic brahmin (5% of the pop),that low caste hindoo should not enter the brahmin temples,drink from their wells,live in their towns,marry,socialise or have any cultural interaction whatsoever.It was even forbidden for a low caste hindoo to step on the shadow of a brahmin,on pain of death.Low caste hindoo were deemed to be contaminated,unclean and untouchable.A situation which persists to this very day.
Islam`s egalitarian message appealed greatly to the oppressed hindo masses,and they freely converted to the truth..Al Islam!
Having become muslim,the converts saw no need to keep the idolatrous brahmin temples,and destroyed them.A bit like Africans of the america(many of whom were muslims),who would periodically rise up and destroy the the white mans plantation.
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Were your ancestors hindus?
written by RM , August 30, 2009
You should be ashamed of following a barbaric cult of Islam started by the most horrible, cruel , mentally sick muhammed.
Dont you see how he got only 30-40 converts when he tried to give tolerant verses in mecca for almost 10 years.
He killed innocent critics, raped at will. Did child molestation of aisha, forced his son to divorce his wife and did sex with his daughter in law, cheated on wives and did sex with maria.
Never created an independent system and lived on looting from raids of innocent hardworking caravan traders. Shame on you.
How much you know hinduism? India had a well developed education system, where all children used to study together and based on there skill acquired used to get th post, the stronger persons used to learn military skills, the intelligent became teachers or merchants etc. The persons with less interest in studies or military were taught simple skills like potery making, gold -silver ornament making, agriculture skills etc.
After muslims came they destroyed the temples and ashrams and skills started to pass on from generation to generation. Thats why hinduism survived.
Just reflect your on history of your ancestors , how much they have cried to become muslims and hope there nth progeny will awaken and be non-muslims when being non-muslim will be safe.
Shame on you muslims, your ancestors will be cursing you for not awakening to your original faith be prisoners of Islam and follower of that wreched arab criminal
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Saladin
written by India is an idolatrous despoti , August 30, 2009
The caste system is an integral part of hindooism.
It was used by the invading aryan tribes to subjugate the original inhabitants of India.
It is no coincidence that the lighter races of India are mostly brahmins and the darker peoples are mostly untouchables.
Even today millions of low caste hindoo,reject the tyrannical religion of the brahmins,and freely convert to Islam,buddism and christianity.Even though,many hindoo extremists(bjp and abvp),regularly burn converts and their entire villages alive.as was the case recently in bihar state.
Hindooism is nothing to do with class and occupation,but the worst kind of racial,religious,and social oppression.That is what ghandi said also,it is a wicked and vile religion(if one can call it that).
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Tell this to your arab master
written by To Saladin , August 30, 2009
Your arab master , treat you like scums. The best system in the world which wants a classless system is communism, bit still its impractical.
Islam is a arab imperialsm and women sunjugation system strated by a mentally sick arab. Read the books by enlightened ex-muslim Anwar Sheikh.
Just think for you progeny who will be women, they have to suffer the torture of beared , smelly, cruel and jihadist muslim. You may enjoy your 4 wives , but what about progeny or you are same as other muslim men, who think nothing about children.
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Without proof just dont bark
written by RK , August 30, 2009
There is no division between black and fair colored hindus. Most brahmins are black colored, it depends upon region, south of india is near tropics and people become darker. Do you know this aryan invasion theory is the greatest laughing stock.
Read some books on hinduism, like authors stephen knapp etc. Hinduism enriched all places from afghanistan to indonesia and people lived happily and a simple life, when islam came and created problems to people.Just like even after converting muslims remained culturally hindus and quite recently pakistan etc were hijab free, women were elected politicians.
Similarly hindus got bad impact from Islam which now hindus are removing.
The same thing is happening in europe nowadays, when hardly any police were needed, but with increase in muslim popluation , more police control is required.
In US 20 % of prisoners are muslims (while 1 % are muslims in total).
Although muslims boast of 1 billion popluation but 'zero' scientific research.
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Both....
written by Rex , August 30, 2009
the Muslim Saladin and the couple of Hindus arguing against Saladin are wrong.

That Islam is evil is a given but one cannot be blind to the crisis brought upon Indians by the caste system. As tolerant as the Hindu religion is but the caste system cause huge hardship to a huge section of the population. This caused disunity in soceity. A disunited soceity, however large will not stand strong when an enemy from without strikes. Thus is the story how Islam arrived in India.
Rex
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MA Khan.....
written by Rex , August 30, 2009
it is time you come up with an India specific blog. Such a blog run by an ex Muslim of Indian origin would be a huge development for humanity.
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To Rex
written by RM , August 30, 2009
I couldnt understand what you mean by so called caste problem etc. This whole concept is false and was also utilized by british to create disharmony in indian society and to convert almost 1/4 th into christianity, but hardly any hindu was willing to convert.
Again you are mistaking about class and caste. There is a law against it in India and 50 % special resrvation is given to people from those classes. Now mainly communist are playing with this to get a huge vote bank. India and especially hinduism being too tolerant allowed all these colonial legacy to remain.The residual effect is chipping away and indians are doing intermarriages cutting across regions, class etc. Almost 60 % of marriages in India are inter-caste as stated in all main matrimony sites.
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Why Islam? Who\'s Allah? What for?
written by Indian_Kufr , August 30, 2009
A simple question to Islamists? What is a good thing about islam? No music. No moustache. No shaving the beards. No foreskin/ no clitoris. sound pollution 5 times a day throughout the year. Bleeding with blades on muharram, manufacture of suicide belts and bombs and blowing up inside the infidels/shirks. Fighting with the jews. Begging ( Jizya) from US/west IMF/WB for economy improvement. Begging the west for military protections., Barring all educations claiming that quran contains all science and all knowldege, blowing schools, killing own daughters, killing own parents. beheading as a pastime, banning TV stations, Banning sports, Banning sports for women, Banning other religions from the Islamic countries, stealing from the infidels, the list goes on, on and on ... The humanity is fed up... What is the correct corrective action? Can anybody suggest?
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Corrective Action against Islam
written by Manzikert , August 31, 2009
The best and only corrective action against Islam is for the rest of the world to wake up from their deep slumbar and open their eyes and minds to the dangers of this Crazy cult of the "The Mentally Retarded Criminal................ whose followers would have raped and murdered some of Saladin's ancestors and converted the ones alive to islam. For muslims like Saladin out here, they should open their minds and read a bit of history and understand how on earth their poor ancestors would have converted to such a Crazy, Murderous, Irrational Cult.
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Unpeaceful
written by HT , August 31, 2009
More peaceful spreading of Islam: http://dailypioneer.com/198789...aign.html
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written by HT , August 31, 2009
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saladin
written by David , August 31, 2009
where do you live, saladin? what country? do you live in a muslim country? afghanistan? pakistan? tajikistan? iran? iraq? saudi arabia? syria? jordan?
or do you live in a western country? you must be in a western country to have such access to the internet.
you have probably never had to live through hardship in your life. you probably grew up in a western country an are a muslim simply to feel superior to everyone else. islam is a club to you, not a faith. you probably strut around feeling better than everyone else.
never once in these forums have you ever had any peace or not been hostile. is that a characteristic of your religion? hostility? arrogance? self-importance? or are you just a spoiled brat for depending on and taking advantage of western cultures for the freedom we have? you aren't even of middle eastern descent, are you?
come on. hurl some more insults. prove you are completely unlearned in anything. it is amusing.

watch as he changes the subject in his next post to me.

Jesus love you, saladin. He will break through your walls.
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Indian specific Islam blog
written by A Hindu , August 31, 2009
Khan you are so right. Comparatively, Indian Muslims are less fanatic (or comparatively there are more liberal Muslims in India) and we Hindus (many) have the optimism that if things work out correctly, they can be an example of liberal Islam to the world.
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To Saladin
written by A Hindu , August 31, 2009
Are you saying the Muslims in India are low caste converts? Tell them and they will kill you! They believe they are all pure descendants of Mongols, Pathans and Arabs!!
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Kashmir - Truth told
written by Bharat , August 31, 2009
I bow to this website for it's boldness to talk the truth about Kashmir. Indians gave Secularism as a solution to live in harmony with the Muslims, some of the Muslims accepted, but not the Kashmiris. Hindus gave a special status to Kashmir called article 370 so that Indians from other countries cannot buy property in Kashmir and still the Muslim mind is not satisfied. The Indian political parties are appeasing the Muslims to their best ignoring Hindus, the Kashmiri Muslims are not convinced. In the name of militancy, hundreds of thousands of Kashmiri Pandit Hindus were flushed out from Kashmir and still the Muslim mind is not in peace. They will get peace if they can separate Kashmir from India. I am not sure even if they obtain their so called Azadi that they will get peace. The best way to get peace is when all men are of your own cult. Even that is not true when you check the Pakistani case. All are Muslims, but no peace. The world will never get peace as long as this arrogant political religion continues to dominat the world.
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First and foremost I am MUSLIM!
written by Saladin , August 31, 2009
Hey David and the rest of y`all Islamophobes.
It doesn`t matter where I live,was born,grew up etc,the point is I`m muslim,and happy to boot.

You and your rantings are all on the fringes of accepted political discourse,megachurch,Dharm sena and white supremacists.Those are your bedfellows.

Muslims feel perfectly at home in the west,gaining new converts among the heathen everyday,why we count a yankee president among our number.
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caste system
written by A Hindu , August 31, 2009
Original reason may be division of work but there is no denial that caste system in India caused lot of trouble and it was really bad. As a Hindu I am ashamed of it but truth is truth. We have made a lot of progress and still we need to go further.
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Saladin...while you gain the odd yankee
written by res , August 31, 2009
...for convert, the heart of Islamic world namely the Arabian peninsular and particularly Saudi Arabia is rotting at its core. The smell is putrifying and many Saudis are secretly commiting apostacy due to the advancing decay. Mostly looking at the Bible for salvation.

So go a head and gain for your faith all of north America but sooner or later the land of the two mosques would be heathen land. This is from my own personal observation.
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Reply to Saladdins idiotic message
written by Lokesh Paswan , August 31, 2009
Saladdin,
You are a true Musalmaan, who will always favour the barbaric acts against the infidels.
Why are you interested in our that is Hindus caste system. Did your prophet allow you to read, think, write about us.
Our Hindu religion is the best and the oldest religion on Earth. Dont ever try to teach us?. You Islamic bastards are curse for the World. Who are you to talk about other infidels? See your religion. Today thousands of Muslims are enrolled as Scheduled Caste that is lowest caste in India and they your Muslim friends are availing benifits of the downtrodden Hindu communities. It is better those Muslims who had categorised themselves as downtrodden Dalits convert to Buddhism or Hinduism or Sikhism becoz as u say there are no caste system in Islam.
I think it is time to terminate you and your idiotic ideologies.
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re: MA Khan.....
written by M A Khan , August 31, 2009
it is time you come up with an India specific blog. Such a blog run by an ex Muslim of Indian origin would be a huge development for humanity.

Thanks Rex. It's a good suggestion, but my hands are full.
I'm happy to be of help to any other ex-Muslim, interested in taking such an initiative.
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To Saladin
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
That is the problem, you are looking on the wrong side of the telescope.
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There is something about Saladin
written by Mary , September 01, 2009
that makes me think he's an American. In some circles in the U.S. Islam is thought to be cool because it's not Amerikan, not European. It's "of color." It's like Maoism during the Cultural Revolution, destroying everything and creating nothing. And best of all it's macho.
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india now
written by Wilshire , September 02, 2009
i agree there were caste divisions here in india but that was hundreds of years ago.
and the arrival of islam in india is no blessing.
i am proud of being an indian. i can confidently say that india has a number of religions and we all live happily in harmony.
i am a catholic. my friends are hindus, sikhs, parsis, buddhists and even muslims.
india is a very peace loving country and thats why jerks are jelous of it.
i am guessing that islam figures are very happy seeing the terrosist attacks on mumbai recently.
they must be thinking its the "holy war"..
well guess what, how many peaceloving muslims have they killed.
what is their bloody objective??
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Hussein
written by Hussein , September 04, 2009
This website is committed to hate and not much else, certainly not rational discourse. That's not to say that the Muslims know anything about rational discourse either. But what we have here is really a thinly veiled hate mongering, polemic wielding, shady scholarship bearing website that accomplishes nothing more than creating a space where Islam haters from all over the world can masturbate in a circle and splatter each other's noses and then laugh. Seriously, and I'm an atheist. Fuck Islam. But fuck you too. You guys are a bunch of dickwads who couldn't put together an ikea table let alone take down Muhammad. That dude has you beat, one million ways to Sunday (or should I say Friday).
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It`s what I`ve been saying all along!
written by Saladin , September 04, 2009
These Islamophobes believe their own filthy hype!

Even the atheists can see through the worthless propaganda and hate mongering.

Do they really believe they can change/destroy Islam,even one iota?

Me thinks not!
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re: It`s what I`ve been saying all along!
written by Heathen , September 09, 2009

Even the atheists can see through the worthless propaganda and hate mongering.


So, wouldn't those atheists be, according to what you've said above:

Saladin - First and foremost I am MUSLIM! |2009-08-31 15:53:14

Muslims feel perfectly at home in the west,gaining new converts among the heathen everyday,why we count a yankee president among our number.

be "heathens" that need to be converted and remade in your image?
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wateva
written by wateva , September 10, 2009
i dont think we should fight like fools.
religion is so that we live in peace, not fight like idiots..
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not true
written by Manoj , September 16, 2009
Caste based discrimination is not part of hindu religion, as you seem to think. Even in europe there was a caste system but you never claim is was part of christianity, even though the christian faith was used to justify this caste system, you had the king, the priests, the peasents, the nobility etc. One was supposed to remain within ones proffesion, and caste based discrimination was normal.

You think caste based discrimination is part of hinduism because the history of India you learn in schools gets its information from brittish and other european "scholars" from the 18th- 19th century, who were out to convert hindus to christianity and demonised hinduism and everything else that had to do with hindu culture.
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Sufism( to writer of this article)
written by Adil , October 24, 2009
Brother M.A. Khan,

Even though you have tried to write something but i am afraid you landed on nothing, Whatever you said it didnt happened as you said , This flick of yours showed Sufi as killer but still you have said they were great , I mean what do you want to provide, You don't have any idea what you are saying, A real sufi killed forced and that stuff bro delete ur article its crap
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a great sufi scholoar
written by syed ahmed , October 25, 2009
i dont know who you people are who have posted your comments up but speaking the truth you all seem to be illeterate uneducated and a victim of misunderstandings . islam is a religion of divine faith it is was and will be the only true religion. people should understand the fact that to know islam you dont have see muslims but just once read the translation of the holy quran and i bet a thousand dollars that you will have a changed heart . you all are my brothers and i dont wish to use any haesh language against any of you just a simple request that read authentic reports and books before opening your mouth. because brothers if a sufi scholar like me shall read your blog all we can conclude is that you have posted nothing more than crap uot of utter insanity.

i pray for you all that our lord the lord of the entire creation ALLAH SUBHANA WATA'LA bestows some knowledge upon you that you may understand the truth before you say alas! it is too late to repent
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sufi scholar
written by syed ahmed , October 25, 2009
just one thing to say remember me when you die you will die a most treachrous death this is the prediction of a sufi scholar and remember you shall be given unimaginable punishmet in the court of Allah where allah listnes to only one that is our beloved great and the best personality that can ever exist our prophet MUHAMMAD sallalahu alahi wasallim whom you no matter how much you abuse his pious and great personality wont be affected even by an inch.

i feel to abuse you very in a very bad manner but our prophet asked us to refrain fromdoing such so i am bidding you good bye for a horrible after death journey
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to kafir madar jat
written by syed ahmed , October 25, 2009
you bloody bastards maa ki chatti hui aulad teri ma sali rand hogi madar chod ki aulad
dobara likh kar dekh mere rasul ke khelaf tere khandan ko uda dunga samjha ke nahi sals harami ka pilla tum sale log kfir sab jhannum mien jab jalo ge toh apni ki pungi bajana
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...
written by a muslim!! , December 10, 2009
islam is nothing mad d ppl tellin dat islam is mad r demselves mad specially u non muslim kafirs....u all will c wot will happen 2 u n den u wil undrstand!!
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all
written by rashid mehmood , December 15, 2009
hw the man create tht thongs hw he express tht thngs,,,i really impressed,,,,
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...
written by anand , December 18, 2009

Separatism in Kashmir in modern times was given birth through instigations made by a prominent sufi person through his writings and speeches.



It seems that Sufism has a deep mysticism and spiritualism in it. However, as is the case usually, the esoteric messages can only be misunderstood by the average man. Guruism is more for intellectual individuals rather than the masses. Cultural development seems to have more to do with intellectual and technological capacities.



Islam will have great difficulties in coming out of the quagmire it finds itself in, compounded no doubt by its economic and educational woes, but also by its dogmatic, outdated mindset and the western world's foolishness in dealing with it in a no less barbaric ways.



Inhuman treatment of the Palestinians, is a sore thorn in the side of the Arab World and the cold war atrocities in Afghanistan and real-politik in double - crossing Pakistan have cost the world a lot.
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hell
written by maqsood , January 19, 2010
you are the mother fucked persons and your place is in hell
and you will be soon there insha Allah.For ur information islam is the only true religion of the world and all other religions are satanic.you left islam ,it is not the weakness of
islam but the weakness of ur IMAN.
May Allahs Curse on You and Whole Of your
family.
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...
written by maqsood , January 19, 2010
YOU are the BASTARDS.
Once Again U R The kafirs and ur place is in the hell and if u meet me somwhere I will send u there.
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unite
written by maqsood , January 19, 2010
TO ALL THE MUSLIM MOOMINS LETS UNITE AGAINST THESE KAFIRS .salaudin and syed ahmed Allahs Blessings and merci on u.Keep fighting against these KAFIRS.
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to kafirs
written by maqsood , January 19, 2010
Your criticism your abusing will not harm islam,it is the only true religion.you are like the barking dogs.First of all try to understand all the religions and then talk.CaN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT IS GOOD IN CHRISTIANITY.HIDUISM,JUDAISM.etc. THE ANSWER WILL BE NOTHING.
tell the christians how the christainity was propogated in latin America,tell hindus if hinduism is a peaceful religion then why there is warrior class in them and why book in veda is based on war tactics or skills.
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...
written by tas , March 12, 2011
Islam taught its followers to regard lying as normal and as a weapon of evil jihad to deceive us infidels as if we're fools! Just like the creator of Islam, the Arabic Pedophile creator of Islam, Mohammed, who lied "peace be upon you" and that he was a ‘prophet’ whilst raping children and women including Jewish slaves, whose husbands, brothers and fathers were beheaded in the first systematic racial (Mohammed was the first one to SYSTEMATICALLY racialize the Jews as a race ,as different from the Arab race, to justify the Jews’ mass-murder) Genocide of the Jews, in order to create supremacist and savage Nazi-like Arabic empire!
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f**kMohmmad
written by Andrew , May 16, 2011
Islam is a group of sister f**king idiots who create nothing but nuisance wherever they stay.

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