www.islam-watch.org

That is how muslim pigs are caught and find it inextricable to come out of this cult for they can be just murdered even if they so deign to talk of freedom. Good story - good for all religions ,but more so for islam and other monotheistic cults that proclaim that they are the only way for truth and all else is false.

Muslims are fenced by thorny fence from all sides ….

The Quran from the front …

The hadeeth from the right …

The Sirah from the left ….

And the Muslim's own cognitive dissonance from the back..

Muslims only could move in the boundary of this Muslim thorny fence … some Muslims like to think they have an open mind in the boundary of Islam which that is no open mind … they are still imprisoned.

They do not know the fence on the back side is very sturdy … they need a lot of effort to free them selves …

The other three sides are made out of thorny LIES that makes them weak and transparent …

Ex Muslims were able to demolish all four sides of fences and set them selves free ….

Free at last …. free at last

Brockaan ….Thanks for very insightful article .

Arther Luther king, Jr

said it wonderfully and perfectly in his famous speech calling for the right of blacks…

It is perfect for us…. ex Muslims ….the free slaves of Islam

Happiness that comes with leaving Islam has no fence …

We have unlimited accesses to it ….

It is indeed a very sensable point presented in this article. But remember that only Islam is not the fence, but all religions, inlcuding Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on, are all posing like fences. So please try to be nuetral and try to write with a biased mentality.

Please, pay better attention when you read an Article …

the Author DID say right at the beginning …

" Which applies to *all religions*, including socialism and particularly to Islam"

It seems you are the one who is with biased mentality
Amadi !!

So according to your article, those who are not yet 'trapped' are WILD PIGS

You have therefore called yourself.......and EVERY other non muslim a WILD PIG.

Priceless.

I hope Mr Khan and his boyfriend Mirza do not take it personally.

"So, this is how wild pigs are fenced the Islamic ways!"

Here is the quote I forgot to include in my last post.

Well said Mr Khan

Have you finally seen the light?

You are right Khan

Yes, I rather be a wild pig and free.
Muslims do not like the word PIG even if it is used metaphorically but will repeat the word 'pig' back to allah every friday in Their Mosques, (Quran 5:60 : 7:163 and several more times.)

This article is such nonsense - it has been written by a wild pig

Mr Khan finally starts telling the truth

WHAT A GUY

I think I have drunk too much whisky - that's why truth is coming out from me

How dare you author call me wild pig!!!!

Disgusting article

Yes

We ex muslims are free and we are wild pigs - be proud of it

Well said meah

You should be proud to be a wild pig

M & P

You Mother F***ker son of a dog now you are posting using my name..and others

this is the best u can do islamic pigs....

If you were not my illegitimate son i would kill you for that.

Are you drunk as well?

Maybe you lost it.....

At least your true colours are showing now

Mr Editor

Please ban M & P Mother F***ker from this site..he has no more to say

he is using others names and posting crap

just like muhammad he has lost his mind

he is totally f****d up

Islamic scumbag go to your islamic garbage website

Stop talking rubbish you idiot.

Well, it looks like M&PP has finally lapsed into a psychotic episode...A serious Allahgasm, leading to Allahphrenia...Happens to a lot of Muslims who are asked straight forward questions and freak out...

I did not write the post titled .... pigs??

The Muslim children are playing again ....

Can someone put an end to this ....

Muslim liars need non Muslim parents to teach them a thing or two about lying ... apparently the Muslim regulars here were raised by Muslims parents who failed miserably.

Yes that's right

Blame the Muslims.......typical Islamaphobes

It's no surprise

fineliving56

You did write it. You must be proud for being a wild pig.

I didn't mean to cause M&PP to have a psychotic break by asking him his opinion...But I can see it overwhelmed him to the point of psychosis...I didn't know he was that brittle, he breaks very easy...Like Humpty Dumpty sitting on a wall, M&PP had a great fall, and came apart, all Allah's horses and all Allah's men, can't put Humpty M&PP, back together again...Some super glue might help...

I madey points about this article and I stand by them.

The author said:


"So, this is how wild pigs are fenced the Islamic ways!"

Therefore, he referred to non Muslims as wild pigs.

"Therefore, he referred to non Muslims as wild pigs"

That's correct we need to be proud of it

[Editor: This comment was written by "Muslim & Proud, not editor M. A. Khan. He has been banned temporarily.]

Yes.. Muslims .....show how you are raised ... you are embarrassing to all Muslims ... if that is possible

thanks for showing us how desperate Muslims can get ...

You will next be blaming underage binge drinking on the muslims - it would not surprise me.

1285. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) was asked, "Which deed is the best?'' He (PBUH) replied, "Faith in Allah and His Messenger.'' He (PBUH) was asked, "What is next?'' He (PBUH) replied, "Jihad (holy fighting) in the Cause of Allah.'' Then he was asked: "What is after that (in goodness)?'' He (PBUH) replied, "Hajj Mabrur (which is accepted by Allah).'' - Al-Bukhari and Muslim

From the above hadith we see that kindness to strangers, family and friends, helping others, caring for the sick and elderly, taking care and providing for those in need, etc. are not "good" deeds.

What are "good" deeds:
1. Believing in a god that is a rock mounted on the side of a building in a god-forsaken hell hole of a desert in the middle of nowhere and ITS messenger Muhammad (the grand pooh bah)
2. Slaughtering anyone who does not bow down and worship THE ROCK and ITS little human god AND
3. Worshipping the rock by perform hajj, that is circling the rock house in Makkah 7 times while trying to get close enough to KISS the rock while wearing some funky special garment. Followed by the slaughtering of some poor animals in a most inhumane way while screaming out Allahu Aqbar (Allah is Greatest).

Yibel,

"What are "good" deeds: "

You forgot to add:

According to Islamaphobes

;-)

[Editor: "Muslim & Proud", you have been banned temporarily for commenting in editor M. A. Khan's name.]

""What are "good" deeds:""

What have good deeds got to do with the author calling you a wild pig???

Blame the Muslims.......typical Islamaphobes

No, lets not blame the Muslims, lets blame you instead...You cannot hide behind Muslims coward, even they don't want you...I don't see demonstrations of thousands of Muslims rioting here in your defense...Your only fellow taqiyya jihadist is your Siamese twin 1qz, irz, iqr, or whatever his name is...and he's a clone...Typical Muslim to blame other Muslims for their personal problems...

Yibel should be proud to be a wild pig

One that is filthy an stinks and also likes to eat his own dirt

Be proud!

One that is filthy an stinks and also likes to eat his own dirt

Did Allah tell you to say that M&PP? When you pray, does he whisper that sort of filth in your ear? Is his voice soft and mellow or is it a high pitched scream? Why do you hate your mother?...You can tell me in the strictest of confidence...

Holy crap i dont know who is using my name and calling M & P a mother fu***ker, son of dog
and illegitimate son.
As far as i know M & P and rzq are in afganistan busy rioting against quran burning.

the two in this site are fakers

I appreciate the website and information. I am glad to see that some are breaking free from Islam. However it would be of great benefit to see some rational discussions and arguments rather than senseless name calling.

A verse from Shaitan

Verily, i swear on hell, you M & P and rzq are not muslims. You two scum of hell are watching abuse and
insults to your allah and prophet here and doing nothing. I order you for jihad on IW and burn your
computer. verily allah will never forgive you for you are such shameless deutchbags.

M&P rzq

need your honest reply

shaitan pissed off allah by not bowing!! Right?

shaitan again pissed off allah by making adam lewd!! Right?

allah screw adam!! Why?

why humanity has to pay for the fight b/w allah and shaitan?

Is Shaitan still pissing off allah?

Once allah lost against shaitan shows allah may loose again? cuz shaitan is too smart

Read Carefully

allah boasted to shaitan that human is his best creation and superior to shaitan and all creatures

and soon after shaitan made allah to disgrace his best creation??

shaitan proved him more powerful.

Buggle gum - the Iblis stories are informative - if you assume Iblis is mankind and Adam is Satan you discover the truth behind the "revelations" and the stories make sense. (in the Bible no where does Yahweh ask Satan to worship Adam as that is idolatrous)
So the Quran is where Satan wants mankind to worship him not God- that is why Allah / Satan demands Iblis worship "Adam". So the author of the Quran is...

Did allah (swt) asked adam to bow to him? No

Allah (swt) asked all the creatures to bow to adam not to adam bow to allah?

and muhammad (allah's boss) is telling humanity to bow to allah?

dont follow muhammad plz follow allah (swt)

Happy?
More like old, bitter, twisted, resentful and sad would be the words to describe you!
Happy is not the word !

"Allah (swt) asked all the creatures to bow to adam not to adam bow to allah?
and muhammad (allah's boss) is telling humanity to bow to allah?
dont follow muhammad plz follow allah (swt)"

This revelation looks Angelic I did not look at it that way before. I only know that Muslim are bowing down to idol the Black stone and not the true Almighty God. Because God has already said in one of the Ten Commandments that you don't bow to anything whether that thing lives in heaven or earth and that is enough to know that Islam is daily breaking the 2nd commandment of God in their daily ass ups.

According to the Islamic scriptures even Allah has never asked anyone to bow down to him but to all creatures to bow down to Adam. That was what actually Mohammed wanted people to do to him not to Allah.

When those Muslim file behind him in prostration ignorantly they did not know that they are actually bowing down to Muhammad the thing he so much cherished. That is why in the Qurans Muhammad orders are Allah’s orders; Since Mohammed is no longer alive the Blackstone is there to represent him.
Don’t you think this makes sense? Thank you, Angel Gabriel for the revelation.

Prove to me that Muslims are praying to the black stone?
Don't just blabber, give me chapter and verse?

And your Lord said: “Invoke Me, (i.e. believe in My Oneness (and ask Me for anything) I will respond to your (invocation)…………..” (Quran: 40: 60)
Who are Muslims preying to???

"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; [1] Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; [2] He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; [3] And there is none comparable unto Him. [4]"
Idolatry you say pastor????

Been drinking the old blessed wine????

Here is a list of references about Muslim prayers:
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): 

“In the name of Allaah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. All praises and thanks be to Allaah, the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists), the Most Beneficient, the Most Merciful, the Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e., the Day of Resurrection). You (Alone) we worship, and You (alone) we ask for help (for each and every thing).” [al-Faatihah 1:1-5] 

“O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allaah), Who has created you and those before you so that you may become al-muttaqoon (the pious).” [al-Baqarah 2:21] 

“Such is Allaah, your Lord! None has the right to be worshipped but He, the Creator of all things. So worship Him (Alone), and He is the Wakeel (Trustee, Disposer of affairs, Guardian) over all things.”[al-An’aam 6:102] 

“And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him, and that you be dutiful to your parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age in your life, say not to them a word of disrespect, nor shout at them but address them in terms of honour.” [al-Isra’ 17:23] 

Muslim worship Allaah [the One True God] whom all the Prophets worshipped. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya’qoob [Jacob]? When he said unto his sons, ‘What will you worship after me?’ They said, ‘We shall worship your God, the God of your fathers, Ibraaheem [Abraham], Ismaa’eel [Ishmael] and Is-haaq [Isaac], One God, and to Him we submit (in Islam).” [al-Baqarah 2:133] 

The Muslims worship Allaah and call others who follow different religions to worship Allaah Alone, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say [O Muhammad]: ‘O People of the Scripture [Jews and Christians]: come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allaah, and we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allaah.’ Then, if they turn away, say, ‘Bear witness that we are Muslims.’” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:64] 

It is Allaah Alone Whom Nooh [Noah] (peace be upon him) called his people to worship, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Indeed, We sent Nooh [Noah] to his people and he said: ‘O my people! Worship Allaah! You have no other god but Him. Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a Great Day!.’” [al-A’raaf 7:59] 

It is Allaah Alone whom the Messiah [Jesus] (peace be upon him) called people to worship, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Surely they have disbelieved who say: ‘Allaah is the Messiah [Jesus] son of Maryam [Mary].’ But the Messiah said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allaah, then Allaah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the zaalimoon (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.” [al-Maa’idah 5:73] 

I await your references about worshipping the black stone???
Remember chapter and verse, no rubbish!

O muslims, Allah the Creator, the magnificiant, never asked a human to bow to him

no doubt you are misled (decieved) by muhammad

we created and raised Adam ( your father) high above other creatures

We swear on stars, we never send a verse to human (the raised one) to bow to him (Allah)

O muslims, then whom you bow to

no doubt, you bow to an empty house which cannot benefit you a least

O muslims do not go against Allah (swt) advise, do not do shirk and fall into trap of shaitan

Allah wants you to be raised and stand high among his creatures.

Can I assume that you are not going to change your user name and start spamming like some idiots here??
Tell me pastor- is Christianity not idolatrous??
Why do the Jews and Muslims believe it is??

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4016144,00.html

That's a jewish legal ruling

RZQ

You are playing muhammad tune

Show us a verse where allah asked muslims (or humans) to BOW to him

otherwise i will consider you a brainless zombie

humans may worship (praise) God but bowing is shirk and slavery of worst kind no God will disgrace human to

this level.

otherwise i will consider you a brainless zombie

"I await your references about worshipping the black stone???
Remember chapter and verse, no rubbish! "

If somebody wants to deceive you or tell you a lie will he tell you that is tell you a lie?

What really surprised me with Muslim is that despite the open lies , even their scriptures confirms that all the kaaba worshipping currently going in Mecca and all over world are not new revelation but renewal of pagan worship that was on before Islam, the story of the sun setting in the milky water, the earth as a carpet, Abraham laying the foundation of kaaba all this open lies are not enough to convince the Muslim that Islam was a ruse
You will agree that Allah the moon god is not the same as Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christian.
You see my friend RZQ I don’t need to quote single verse from the Quran to know that you are worshipping the Blackstone.
Tell me when you pray which direction do you face? Kaaba the house of he Blackstone. When you bow down with your head on the ground which direction do you bow to? Kaaba the house of the blackstone. Why can you bow down facing any direction if indeed you worshipping the God of this universe? For God is omnipresence is everywhere. Only Allah of kaaba is not everywhere and is represented by a Blackstone. Is a pity that you don’t know that you are stone worshiper.
Let me quote the full commandment of God against the your action in the daily ass ups prayers
Ex 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;”

Your contention about eastern religions like Budhism,Hinduism is absolutely wrong. These religions allow reasoning and arguments and also questioning. They are not proselytising religions like islam or christianity. They have not warred to impose their bigotry. It is islam that is extremely insular and a closed dogma that would not allow fresh ideas to flow in. It is extremely intolerant and derisive about other perspectives: "Our way is the only way or else face extermination", that is the dictum of islam. Moreover islam is an arab supremacist cult. The arabs want to rule the world by converting everyone to their barbaric ways and making them submissive to them. Why is it that performing haj one of the most important requirements in islam? Why circumambulate a pagan deity housed in a building called 'Kaaba'? Muslims are hypocrites who will tell lies to further their interests ,or more pertinently the arab interests and espousing arab supremacy. After the pagan deity Allah has avered in Quran that the arabs, more specifically the quresh tribe to which Muhamad belongs as the best people. Only extremely narrow minded bigotry will proclaim such sectarianisms , not broadbased humane religions. Islam is infact a racist cult, it treats nonmuslims in a muslim country worse than vermins giving them no rights. It is a militant idealogy , and militant idealogy requires fencing like protection from "blasphemy" ( since it cannot stand scrutiny and questioning), rule by sharia which is nothing but practice of islamic apartheid, rule by terror, and rule by islamic clergy and autocrats since democracy will expose the weakness and fragility of this immoral and inhuman cult.

"I await your references about worshipping the black stone???
Remember chapter and verse, no rubbish!"

RZQ

I await your quran references about worshipping allah by 5 times ass-ups a day???
Remember chapter and verse, no rubbish!

It is a pity that you believe those deceiptfull words and hallucination of a madman as words of God.

Let me aske has Mohammed ever obey his so called revelation? When he said don't marry more than 4 wives did he keep it. when he said God punished the Jews for breaking the Sabbath did he obey the law of sabbath. When he said the Month of Ramadan is a holy month did he stop terrorising the Polytheist and the Jews in the month of Ramadan? When he said don't tell lies did he stop telling lies? when is said killing one man is like killing a whole nation. Did he stop killing and assassinating all his critiques?

You see Mohammed only obey those things to the point they don't come between him and money, power and women. They are his creations brings them up when he needs. when he wanted to cow his wives to submission he released Allah's decrees. Only a full can obey his own hand work. There was nothing like Allah somewhere ditching out laws. Mohammed = Allah= kaaba= Mohammed that was Muhammad's Trinity.

You better get educated and stop fully yourself that you have gotten a religion that will take you to heaven.

If you want to go to heaven come to Christ and be saved. He is the only saviour. Read his Gospel the Bible and see how divine revelation are written and whn you read you know you that you are reading something unique and divine. Not the Quran.

Too much intellectual masturbation will cause your brains to heat up and melt the insulation on your wiring....
All religious quotes, especially Islamic, are fabrications of the human mind...sometimes with a direction or goal, sometimes not. Religion is not the study of God, it is a study of the human mind...No Gabriel ever talked to Mohammad, and no burning bush talked to Moses, all fabrications...
Only the human mind is interested in getting answers about the unknown, and only the human mind creates devices to get these answers...Some of these devices are, not necessarily in this order...science, meditation, concentration exercises, Rosary, Japa, ritual, prayer, and occult and magical methods such as ceremonial magick, chanting magical words of power, the various yoga's and more...Not included is the written dogma...once the unknown is made known to you, by those listed methods, you do not need anyone's books...The philosophy is irrelevant...That means that except for it's destructive effects, the Quran is irrelevant...

Thanks for the quote of exodus 20:4.
If you had one iota of truth then you would have been able to back your claim. Instead of backing that you made a dozen more.
I have nothing further to say to you, allow me to quote you the translation of surah al kafiroon.
Say (O Muhammad (SAW) to these Mushrikûn and Kâfirûn): "O Al-Kâfirûn (disbelievers in Allâh, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar)!
2. "I worship not that which you worship,
3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.
5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship.
6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islâmic Monotheism)."

I think line 6 sums it up pastor. Unto you yours and unto me mine.

2. "I worship not that which you worship, Satan is my god'''
3. "Nor will you worship that which I worship, you are doomed for not worshipping Satan.
4. "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping, Satan won't allow it...
5. "Nor will you worship that which I worship, Satan said to repeat #2......
6. "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islâmic Satanism)."

RZQ

You probably you don’t know that the idol worship in the Islamic fashion was an inactment of Nebuchadnezzar image worship centuries before Islam. You call the salat and gather to face the Kaaba to do the ritual ass ups you are exactly doing what cost Nebuchadnezzar 7 years eating grass before God had mercy on him and restore him to human again. Idol worship is a grievous sin.

Listen to this scriptures where your religion started.

Dan 3:2-7” Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. 3 Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. 4 Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages 5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up: {dulcimer: or, singing: Chaldee, symphony} 6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. 7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.”

You probably do not know that the above surah has been abrogated by some better surah which Allah latter discovered and rendered the above surah null and void. Let me help you with a few:

Qur'an:9:88"The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:9:112"The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29"Fight those who do not believe until the
all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Ishaq:325"Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Ishaq:324"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"

Qur'an:9:14"Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

Ishaq:300"I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."

How can you trust such a god that will in one moment say there is no compulsion in religion to you your religion and to me my religion and in another movement say fight the unbelievers , kill them. Which kind of a god is that?

Your eyes are so blinded that you cannot see how Mohammed manipulated his people under the guise of religion to enrich himself with political power, money and women, I am sorry for you

Why are you cherry picking verses to justify you Islamaphobia?

Why are you cherry picking verses to justify you Islamaphobia?

Because it is appropriate to do so...There are so many cherry's to pick from...In fact all of Quran is just a bowl of cherry's, freshly picked...

"Because it is appropriate to do so..."

So you think its appropriate to justify ones Islamaphobia, by whatever means?

Yes or No

Ps. Let's see if you can actually answer the question with a Yes or a No......

what kind of religious book has rape, slavery, genocide, infanticide, incest, sodomy etc etc and that is just the bits that are tame!
Have you actually read the bible???

Salaam Bro,

You will find that Chriatians prefer the New (modernised) Testament. They stay away from the old testament which has some interesting verses on the topics you mentioned......

I assert that I am converting back to Islam and I recite Kalima
"La Illaha illalalaho, Muhammad ur rasool-ul-Allah.

Now I am Muslim alhamdulillah and a traped pig.

According to the author, you can only be a wild pig if you are non-muslim.

Are you having one of your dizzy spells again?

So you think its appropriate to justify ones Islamaphobia, by whatever means?

The evil Quran speaks for itself, and what it speaks is evil...If you can't see it too bad, you are wearing Allah supplied rose colored glasses...We Islamophobes can see the truth...You are deluded...

Interesting that M&Punk, rzq The Defeated, and the imposer all appear together...

So you think its appropriate to justify ones Islamaphobia, by whatever means?

Yes or No

I know that you struggle with these easy questions.......have a go, what have you got to lose?

IS IT A YES OR A NO

"The evil Quran speaks for itself, and what it speaks is evil...If you can't see it too bad, you are wearing Allah supplied rose colored glasses...We Islamophobes can see the truth...You are deluded.."

I am looking for a one word answer.......here is the question again (I'm even giving you the 2 possible answers for crying out loud)....have another go...

Do you think its appropriate to justify ones Islamaphobia, by whatever means?

Yes or No?

"We Islamophobes can see the truth..."

So you have finally admitted that you are all Islamaphobes.

Have a read of this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

Here are a few quotes from the link above:

"Islamophobia describes prejudice against, hatred or irrational fear of Islam or Muslims"

"In 1997, the British Runnymede Trust defined Islamophobia as the "dread or hatred of Islam and therefore, to the fear and dislike of all Muslims," stating that it also refers to the practice of discriminating against Muslims by excluding them from the economic, social, and public life of the nation. It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion."

The civilised world is working to combat Islamaphobes like yourselves:

"Professor in History of Religion, Anne Sophie Roald, states that Islamophobia was recognized as a form of intolerance alongside Xenophobia and Antisemitism at the "Stockholm International Forum on Combating Intolerance".[6] The conference, attended by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson, the OSCE Secretary General Ján Kubis and representatives of the European Union and Council of Europe, adopted a declaration to combat "genocide, ethnic cleansing, racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia and xenophobia, and to combat all forms of racial discrimination and intolerance related to it." "

You did a fine jobe of exposing yourself.......congratulations.

I am looking for a one word answer

Well, your not going to get one punky doodle...You don't dictate any terms around here...Who is an Islamophobe and who is not, is none of your business...Have you admitted to being a jihadist? I'm waiting for your lie...

"Salaam Bro
You will find that Chriatians prefer the New (modernised) Testament. They stay away from the old testament which has some interesting verses on the topics you mentioned"

Wa alaikum assalam!
That is just a ruse they use! Does the nature of YHWH change? No!
According to them old and new book has the same author !

Wikidpedia is not a good source of reliable information loopy...I dont read fiction there...when I want fiction, I read Quran...

If you were tied to a board,face up to be beheaded by a muslim.Would you not be`Islamophobic?

"If you were tied to a board,face up to be beheaded by a muslim. Would you not be`Islamophobic?"

Absolutely not.

I'd certainly be asking myself what I'd done to get myself in that situation and I would absolutely be RATIONALLY afraid.

It's a bit like saying you have to be tied to a plane in order to be phobic about flying...........

Islamaphobia = irrational hatred and prejudice of Islam.............and includes a very limited and delluded understanding of Islam btw.

Your comment is what I thought you would say.Inward thinking.The Bros truly are fenced in.

This story might be true in the broader sense. But in ISLAM and the way ISLAM was imposed on moslems by Mo - everything is under fear and terror and threat. Even now in ISLAMIC countries , fear and terror is true. Can you go to PAKISTAN, walk on the street and declare yourself that you are a shia moslem and dont follow sunni ? You will not lost 1 hour.

Don't you know that the fear of islam is the beginning of wisdom?

Uk open it door to all kinds of people including Islam and thy are paying dearly for it. Ask the American. Ask those Asian Countries which were Islamised by force of sword they will tell that the fear of Islam is the beginning of true freedom.

Me I am proud to be classified as Islamophobic

Thank you

rzq, you wrote

"Unto you yours and unto me mine."

But this was NOT the choice given to 'pagan' (i.e.non-muslim) Arabs upon Muhammad's return to Mecca !

It was also NOT a choice given to Persians, Indians, Egyptians, Ethopians, Syrians, Turks, ..... . The list goes on and on !

WHAT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS SO-CALLED 'PEACEFUL' VERSE FROM QURAN AND ITS PRACTICE IN ISLAM !!!

"Me I am proud to be classified as Islamophobic"

So you are therefore prejudice, have an irrational fear of and hate ALL muslims?

Please confirm - Yes or No?

Tell me is it irrational to fear somebody who use terrorist manual as his constitution?

Is it irrational to fear somebody who believe that persecution is worse than bloodshed?

tell me

"Me I am proud to be classified as Islamophobic"

Mr Pastor - Please answer the question (if you can).

So you are therefore prejudice, have an irrational fear of and hate ALL muslims?

Please confirm - Yes or No?

Dont expect an answer out of the pastor! He just spews out the same lines as the phobes without a shred of evidence to go with it!
Kind of line mr m a khan (AWOL)

You're right bruv

What else can you expect from these guys.

May Allah (the exalted) protect us from any form of extremism and also protect our faith - Ameen.

May Allah (the exalted) protect us from any form of extremism and also protect our faith - Ameen.

If you were not a stupid malevolent POS, you would know how ridiculous that is...Allah has never protected anyone from anything...And if anyone is extreme it is you and your fellow kuffar killing brothers...The weakling fraud of a god Allah can do nothing for himself...He has to get stupified people, like you and the Defeated izq to do his dirty work for him...Islamic zombies programmed by some books and manipulative Imams to believe in evil and act in evil ways...Allah cannot protect your faith from me...You can duck, bob and weave, and attempt to shoot arrows from your hiding places, but the gospel of duh swami will win in the end...it always has, and it always will...And there is nothing you or your fake god Allah can do about it...Please don't cry, your just embarrassing yourselves...

Dont expect an answer out of the pastor! He just spews out the same lines as the phobes without a shred of evidence to go with it!

The Book of Vomit, usually called The Quran, has not one shred of evidence between it's pig soiled covers...Next to 'Lady Chatterley's Lover', it is the most evil book ever written...

According to the author, you can only be a wild pig if you are non-muslim.
Are you having one of your dizzy spells again?

Wild pigs are the free, dignified souls. They live their own life and sustain on their own hard work. Trapped pigs are not only trapped into bondage, slavery -- but also have to look up to others for their stomach. No wonder the Muslim world is what it is.

The irrationality of the Islamic message against unbelievers and women,is enough if these people are irrational and hateful against Islam. Was is not you prophet and your scriptures that says ratiliation is good and persecution is worse than bloodshed?

We have seen fruits of Islam all over the world only irrational people will say the fruits of Islam is good. We have hundreds of sub-terrorist group goes with name Islamic terrorising the world. Have you heard Of Christian terrorist group, Hindu terrorist group?

But we hear of Al-Qeda,Hamas, Hezbollah,Islamic Jihad all have the Quran as their inspiration and scripture. And we know that these are terrorist group. Speaking against these group is it irrational.

Please stop deceiving yourself that being Islamphobic is being irrational and hate ful and raciest. If there is irrationality and racism it is all taught by Mohamed and his Quran. And the Quran is terrorist mannual and hate mongering and is human-phobic

The irrationality of the Islamic message against unbelievers and women,is enough if these people are irrational and hateful against Islam.

What do you mean IF?

You have already confirmed that you are an Islamaphobe.

We have seen fruits of Islam all over the world only irrational people will say the fruits of Islam is good.

Here is just 'one' example of one of theose 'irrational' people.....

“History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated” [De Lacy O’Leary in ‘Islam at the Crossroads,’ London, 1923]

We have hundreds of sub-terrorist group goes with name Islamic terrorising the world. Have you heard Of Christian terrorist group, Hindu terrorist group?

Terrorism is HARAAM.
Fighting in retaliation to persecution is Halaal.

Please see the link re Hindu terrorism

http://indianterrorism.150m.com/extremist funding.htm

Here is a very interesting link regarding Christian terrorism - you will like this one

http://christianwatchindia.wordpress.com/

You are obviously very naive and have got your head buried quite firmly in the sand.........what a shame

Wild pigs are the free, dignified souls. They live their own life and sustain on their own hard work. Trapped pigs are not only trapped into bondage, slavery -- but also have to look up to others for their stomach. No wonder the Muslim world is what it is.

How is it possible for trapped pigs to carry out fencing on wild pigs.........

This now means that either the author is wrong or you are wrong?

Please confirm.

Ps. You have gone from being a wild pig, to a trapped pig (literally trapped) - I hope you answer the question Mr Khan.

There is no 'hindu terrorism'. Any act of violence by a handful of people in a country of almost 1 billion hindus which was in retaliation to muslims attrocities in the name of islam bombing and murdering innocent people, and their b extra-territorial loyalties to muslims in other muslim countries like Pakistan,Bangladesh, Palestine,Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,etc. Islamic terrorists have wide network all around the world and they express hatred and contempt for all nonmuslims and have an agenda to convert or murder. They go to the west under the pretext of being persecuted in their own country , then they group themselves to form islamic organisation to impose sharia, create ghettos where the natives of the country are not allowed,and yet live off doles , get employment and be allowed to do business in the country of refuge. And above all claim it to be the land whers Allah , Muhamad and Sharia should prevail over the hosts who had graciously given them shelter and succour . The ungrateful wretches bite the hand that feeds them. That is islam for you : uncouth, immoral ,barbaric, civilisationally deficient and an arb supremacist cult.

"There is no 'hindu terrorism'"

Of course - how silly of me to think that there is any form of terrorism, other that Islamic terrorism......not

"Islamic terrorists have wide network all around the world and they express hatred and contempt for all nonmuslims and have an agenda to convert or murder"

Really?

I have provided 1 link dwarfing Indian terrorists. Maybe you can provide one link Islamic link which confirms this 'agenda'

"That is islam for you : uncouth, immoral ,barbaric, civilisationally deficient and an arb supremacist cult"

Actually, what you will find is that this is your islamaphobic interpretation.

Don't be mad at vbv! He is just reacting to the dying throes of Hinduism!
Those crazy Christians are taking over India and hindus are converting by their millions!

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1297274324

http://www.christianaggression...1297274324

Woah

I think Mr Pastor needs to take his head out if the sand as well as vbv and Yibel

It's not all as rosy as they tend to think

700 years of brutal, barbaric muslim rule could not uproot hinduism , and you are having pipedreams of some monotheistic cults overtaking it. Monotheistic cults are on the verge of dying with so much of irrationalities ,intolerance and rigid bigoted dogmas that run counter to human freedom, creativity and progress , always looking upto to some fake prophet who in his delusions heard voices in his empty head and gave his diktats to destroy civilisations in the name of some fake and impotent deity which cannot do anything by itself and asks its zombified idiots to carry out pogroms of genocides,massacres,plunders, rapes, enslavements, flesh-trading and the like . And even that deity ,later made into a megalomaniacal monotheistic monster ,has its origins in pagan polytheistic cults, especially Allah, the arab monster-deity. rzq ,you are an arab slave,if you are not an arab yourself, but an indian or pakistani mozzy , you can stuff your wishful thiking you know where and fart opun it.

I think Mr Pastor needs to take his head out if the sand as well as vbv and Yibel

And you need to take yours out that gaping cavity between your legs fool...

Muslims murdered about 100,000,000 Hindus in India during their 700 year rule...You can look that up mangy cur...Is that something you approve of demon?

are u proud to be Muslim is it because you poke your finger into your anus after pooping?

"are u proud to be Muslim"

Very proud indeed.

and what about the 2nd part? are you ashamed to tell us or you don't do that like other Muslims?

I am certainly proud to remain clean - only pigs are proud to remain dirty - hope that helps ;-)

it is very good 2 know that you like to remain clean but there might be other ways to remain clean. does it really matter that finger or fingers must be inserted in the hole of crap?

"it is very good 2 know that you like to remain clean but there might be other ways to remain clean. does it really matter that finger or fingers must be inserted in the hole of crap?"

It obviously matters to you.

so I have figured out by your reply that to me it matters but to you it doesn't. or in other words you poke your finger deep in to your anus in a way to clean it from crap. didn't your brain tell you to use another way to clean your hole of crap?

There must be other ways for you to get your kicks, surely?

Some free advice: Why don't you go and ask your mum? It is likely that she is still a Muslim.

What does sharia say about how many stones/pebbles to use or what to do if you don't have any pebbles?...I could look it up, but I'm sure you have complete working knowledge of sharia compliant toileting.........

There must be other ways for you to get your kicks, surely?

why don't you use those ways rather to put ur fingers in the nasty holes? do u like ur fingers being stinky?

The words of the Qur'an make it hard to believe that Islam in its purity is a peaceful and tolerant religion:

2:89 ”Therefore, the curse of Allah is upon the unbelievers!”

2:97 ”Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and messengers, to Gabriel and Michael, lo! Allah is an enemy of the unbelievers.”

2:191 ”Kill them (unbelievers) wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you, for persecution is worse than slaughter…. Such is the reward of those who reject faith.”

2:193 ”Fight against them (unbelievers) until there is no dissension, and the religion is for Allah.” (Slaughter until no other religion exists but Islam.)

2:218- But those who believe and those who migrate and struggle in the way of Allah, those, have hope of the mercy of Allah.”

3:10 ”Those who disbelieve, neither their riches nor their children shall save them from Allah. They shall become the fuel of the fire.”

3:19 ”The only true faith in God’s sight is Islam. Those to whom the book was given disagreed among themselves only after knowledge had been given to them, being insolent among themselves. He who disbelieves the verses of Allah indeed Allah is swift in reckoning.”

3:28 ”The believers should not take the unbelievers as friends or helpers in preference to the believers. He who does this does not belong to Allah in anything, unless you have a fear of them.”

3:110 ”You are the best nation ever to be brought forth for people. You order honor and forbid dishonor, and you believe in Allah. Had the people of the book believed, it would have surely been better for them. Some of them are believers, but most of them are evildoers." (This is racist saying that Arabs are the best people in the world and that ost Jews and Christians are wrongdoers.)

3:151 ”We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.”

4:76 "And those who believe fight in the way of Allah, but those who disbelieve fight in cause of evil. Therefore, fight against those guided by Satan.”

4:89 "Seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

4:95 "Those of the believers who sit still…are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and lives. Allah hath conferred on those who strive with their wealth and lives a rank above te sedentary. Unto each Allah hath promised good, but He hath bestowed on those who strive a great reward above the sedentary.” ( Muslims who fight in jihad are better than those who don’t.)

4:101 "For the unbelievers are to you open enemies.”

5:51 "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them in friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.”

5:64 "They (meaning the Jews) are cursed for what they said!… As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their effort is for corruption in the land, and Allah loveth not corrupters.”

7:4 "How many a village have we laid in ruin! In the night our might fell upon it, or at midday when they were drowsy.” (Attack when the enemy is least expecting it.)

8:59-60 ”Do not suppose that the unbelievers have outstripped Allah. They cannot frustrate me. Against them make ready your strength to the utmost power, including STEEDS OF WAR, so that you STRIKE TERROR into the enemies of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them whom you do not know but Allah does.”

8:65 ”O Prophet, urge the believers to SLAUGHTER. If there are twenty patient men among you, you shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred, they shall overcome a thousand unbelievers, for they are a nation who do not understand.”

8:74 ”Those who believe and migrated from their homes and fought for the Way of Allah, and those who have sheltered them and helped them they are truly the believers.” (Only the jihad warriors are the true believers.)

8:12, 14 "I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike them above the necks (behead them), smite their finger tips…. the punishment of the fire is for the unbelievers.”

8:39 ”Slaughter them (unbelievers) until persecution (opposition to Islam ends) is no more and the religion of Allah (all submit to Allah) reigns supreme.”

Let me know when your ignorance allows you to look at the verses prior to and post the verses you have quoted.

It's a bit lile quoting the process of a police officers manual which refers to the use of force and ignoring everything else. You would quickly end up convincing the uneducated that police officers always use force to arrest people. Very sad.

9:14 ”Slaughter them (unbelievers), Allah will punish them with your hands and degrade them. He will grant you victory over them and heal the chests of a believing nation.”
9:19 ..."Allah does not guide the harmdoers. Those who believe, and migrated, and struggle in the Way of Allah with their wealth and their persons are greater in rank with Allah.”
9:26 ”Then, Allah caused his tranquility (sechina) to descend upon his messenger and the believers; he sent legions you did not see and sternly punished the unbelievers. Such is the recompense of the unbelievers.”
9:33 ”It is he who has sent forth his messenger (Muhammad Qutham) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to uplift it above every religion, no matter how much the idolaters hate it.” (Islam does not seek equality with other religions. Islam must be above all others.)
9:38 ”Believers, why is it that when it is said to you: ‘march in the way of Allah, ‘ you linger with heaviness in the land? Are you content with this life rather than the everlasting life (the brothel in the sky with 72 virgins -prepubescent little girls - and pearly little boys)? Yet the enjoyment of this life in (comparison to) the everlasting life is little. If you do not go forth, he will punish you with a painful punishment and replace you by another nation.” (Those who refuse to wage jihad will face terrible punishment in this life and the next.)
9:41 ”Whether lightly or heavily, march on and fight for the way of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. This will be best for you, if you but knew.” (If you don't Muhammad or the imams will send assassins to kill you!)
9:44 ”Those who believe in Allah and the last day will not ask your permission so that they may struggle with their wealth and their selves.” (True believers do not refuse to fight and risk their lives and property for Islam.)
9:49 ”Hell shall encompass the unbelievers.” (The Qur'an contains lots and lots of passages describing this place in detail. The so-called Merciful Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem is NOT so merciful after all!)
9:73 ”O Prophet (meaning Muhammad), struggle with the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed.”
9:111 ”Allah has purchased from the believers their selves and possessions, and for them is paradise. They fight in the way of Allah, slay, and are slain.” (Muslim believers slaughter the unbelievers and so gain paradise. Shades of 9/11/1)

Let me know when your ignorance allows you to look at the verses prior to and post the verses you have quoted.

Those verses are not event verses, they are precedents set by Allah for all time and similar circumstances...The process of referring to one verse, that refers to another verse that leads to an event...destroys any holiness the Quran has(which is zip), and turns it into an everyday history book...Allah did not write any history books, if he wanted Muslims to have history books humans could write them, and humans have written them, hadith for instance...This is probably why the Quran chapters are arranged longest to shortest reqardless of importents...To protect the Quran from the charge of 'history book'...Just made by liar M&Perverted...

attention to that man behind the curtain lolol loser

We had your likes here before in the person of Reed Wilson, Malem, Etc

Who tried to put human face to your barbaric sctriptures the more they tried the more they failed because both the Quran and hadith are not human-friendly. Except if your a moron to have missed in the intent of Mohammed's message of terror and slaughter to his people. There was no love message or mercy despites how many times he call his god the merciful and beneficient, remain a tryant killing and destroying.

That reminds me of Jesus said in John 10:10 That"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

I don't know where you people are getting those nice and peaceful verses from? Not in the Quran those face saving interpritation of your terrorist mannual are only from the pignment of your imagination and not what Mohammed meant from Allah given Message.

If you want to understand the Quran very well read the hadith and Mohammed in action then you will know that he meant what he said in those verses Yibel is reeling out here.

I know how Painful it is to come to realise that the book you were decieved to believe as the word of God is actually the words of a mortal man Mohammed and not Allah he used the Idol god to cow his Arab folks to submission of their gods, wealth, power and women.

where are u stinky finger? did my questions embarrass you deeply?

did my questions embarrass you deeply?

Not at all sh*t for brains - I'm pretty sure they will embarrass your mama....

You started with 9:14, which is convenient for you to justify your Islamaphobia. Here is 9:13, which outlines the reason for 9:14.......

(9:13) Will you not fight such people who have been breaking their solemn pledges, who conspired to banish the Messenger and were the first to transgress against you? Are you afraid of them? If you are true Believers, surely Allah has a greater right that you should fear Him.

Just some more of the blood thirsty Allah ordering his faithful to spill the blood of kuffar, so he, like a cur dog, can lap it up...Allah demands human sacrifices and Muslimns provide them...Evil incarnate known as Islam...

Hey pastor/clement is this you:

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
 
 
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
 
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
 
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
 
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
 
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
 
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
 
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.  And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
 
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
 
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers.  You consider that to be evidence that prayer works.  And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
 
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

What an idiot you are rqz...You have no idea in the world what Christianity is 'for'...You are right about some of what makes a Christian, but if they believed something else, they wouldn't be Christians...You throw the baby out with the bath water because you are to ignorant to know there is a baby...You are another religious supremacist bigot, just like I accuse the Christians of, but at least their bigotry is based on something useful, while yours is based in something destructive...A good portion of what you posted applies equally to Islam, hypocrite...

Salaam Rzq

Nice post bro........you have wiped the floor with Mr Pastor.

Jazaak-Allah

Did you watch the video I posted earlier proving that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was mentioned in the OT. It was confirmed by a rabbi.

Did you see the report that there really is a man in the moon, some scientist on TV said so...How gullible and childish you two butt brothers are...

Lets test your Allah knowledge...Neil Armstrong on Apollo 11 radioed Huston NASA from the moon, that there were other craft there watching...NASA blanked out 2 minuets of it, but ham radio guys were listening and heard it all...Armstrong saw other craft not of this Earth...So who do you think were in the other craft if not of this Earth?...Muslims? Muslims from outer space?
Does Allah have another planet populated by Muslims that he didn't mention to Mohammad? I wonder if they have a Quran or have the slightest idea about Mohammad...Muslims from the planet Mongo would not know who the the People of the Book where, nor the Children of Israel...It would be interesting to get a copy of the Mongo Quran and compare it..

Excellent video brother!
I'm sure the truth hurts them!

It is good to see you again. Is it really Muhammad told you to wipe your anus with your bare fingers? Because this method I never seen in Quran neither in any Ahadith books. However, where did you get this idea from. Satan?

Got the idea from your mama!

Got the idea from your mama!

And you have been taking her advice ever since...Do you ever clean the brown from under your finger nails...You know, after a while they will rot off...

I know!! That's what happened to your mama! Tragic!

Your mama had hers cleaned out by a thousand men and confirmed it is the best way.

Did you not ask her?

Please make sure you do - she even made a video to explain it all - i'm sure it's available on you tube ;-)

You said "Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian " and then you copy pasted the ten.

My question is what is wrong of being a fundamentalist Christian? I am proud to be a fundamentalist Christian if what you mean is that I follow the fundamental teachings of Christ. The Teaching of Christ are timeless, they ever remain relevant in all generations and those who obey the teachings become good citizens, obeying the law of the land and that of God being loving , caring, full of mercy and compassion for poor and the lost preaching the good news that brings salvation to the souls.

But what of the fundamental Muslim. They are fundamentalist Muslim because the take to the Teachings of Mohammed, and what do we see in those people. People run away from them because they become terrorist, killing and destroying the life of innocent people in the name of fundamental Islam, they become merciless, violent, without natural affection , assassinating, raping and molesting little girls in the name of marriage they become the clone of their master Mohammed.

So my friend to be a fundamentalist Christians is good thing for any nation or people or society, but a curse to have a fundamental Muslim in any society even if the they just constituted about 1% of that population.

Why don't you want to identify with those who are raising the banner of Mohammed high, the Al-Qaeda, The Islamic Jihad, Boko haram, The Hamas, the Hezbollah? These are the true Muslim. Please stop deceiving yourself.

Maybe Rzq and myself were not fully aware of what a Christian Fundamentalist is.....for some reason we thought that pastors were regularly involved in sexual abuse of children.......we also thought that christian fundamentalists were more likely to be involved in domestic abuse.....how silly of us.

http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/19/study-fundamentalist-christians-more-inclined-toward-domestic-violence/

Check this out Mr Pastor:

"As teaching pastor Tom Holladay explains, spousal abuse should be dealt with by temporary separation and church marriage counseling designed to bring about reconciliation between the couple. But to qualify for that separation, your spouse must be in the “habit of beating you regularly,” and not be simply someone who “grabbed you once.”

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/124174/ biblical_battered_wife_syndrome:_christian_women_and_do
mestic_violence_/

So much for accusing muslims of wife beating............it seems it is the norm amongs christian fundies.

Feel free to do some research before making silly claims. This way, you are less likely to make a complete fool of yourself Mr Pastor.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
 
Kill Witches
    You should not let a sorceress live.  (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
 
Kill Homosexuals
    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
 
Kill Fortunetellers
    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
 
Death for Hitting Dad
    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.  (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
 
Death for Cursing Parents
    1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.  (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
    2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
 
Death for Adultery
    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
 
Death for Fornication
    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
 
Death to Followers of Other Religions
    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.  (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
 
Kill Nonbelievers
    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
I don't see much love here pastor!

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
 
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
    But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)
 
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
    1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
 
    2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.  (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Salaam Bro,

Mr Pastor seems to have his head quite firmly stuck in CLOUD CUCKOO LAND.....lol

is my mother another shariah for you?

is my mother another shariah for you?

No

But she can certainly enlighten you on your obsession.

Thanks for quoting from my scriptures to make your point. This is good not like your brother M&P who kept on referring to other people’s opinion and not what the Bible says.

You will discover that all your Quotations are all from the Old Testament. You will not find a single verse from the New Testament that look like the one you quoted why?

You would need to understand the background information of why we have two Testaments instead of one Testament to be able understand why the OT appears to contain harsh and instant judgment as opposed to the God of love who appear not to bother about the evil of men now in the New Testament.

1.When God called the Children of Israel out of bondage in Egypt he gave them a land in cannan to dwell in at this time both the judicial and executive and spiritual power rested on the leader who was in constant relationship with God almighty.(This is what is called Theocracy) the State and the church are one. But in the New Testament this is separated.

2.In the old Testament both the Criminal law and moral law are judged instantly but in the New Testament while the criminal Law are handled by the state, the moral and all sin committed against God are deterred till the day of Judgment. This was the teaching of Jesus in John 8 where he said that only saints without sin that can stone an adulterer and since is only God that is sinless all Judgment of stoning is deferred and only God can judged moral sins of men and not man. He also said give unto Caesar that which is for Caesars and God’s what is Gods’ thereby separating the state from the Church. This is not abrogation of God’s word because the word of God shall stand forever and no ditto of God law can fail.

3.During the formative stage of the state of Israel they were commanded to kill ev
eryone in the land they were to possessed without any exception whether a woman or a child. This war was not for booty or and adventurist to acquire more empire like in the case of Islam but to take possession of the land so described with boundary, anything outside the boundary is not affected by this command. Even today Israel is fighting for land to put their head and call their home land only.

Do you think you understand? If you have some further objection, feel free to ask.

This is good not like your brother M&P who kept on referring to other people’s opinion and not what the Bible says.

Mr Pastor,

I am referring to facts regarding the level of domestic violence amongst christian fundies. There is also a tendancy for Pastors to be involved in sexual abuse of children - please refer to the evidence I posted.

Let me remind you what you said earlier:

I am proud to be a fundamentalist Christian if what you mean is that I follow the fundamental teachings of Christ. The Teaching of Christ are timeless, they ever remain relevant in all generations and those who obey the teachings become good citizens, obeying the law of the land and that of God being loving , caring, full of mercy and compassion for poor and the lost preaching the good news that brings salvation to the souls.

So which teachings are those fundies obeying, who claim that:

"spousal abuse should be dealt with by temporary separation and church marriage counseling designed to bring about reconciliation between the couple. But to qualify for that separation, your spouse must be in the “habit of beating you regularly,”

Very compassionate and merciful indeed.....

I taught you said we should not judge islam by the action of a few terrorist. And we agree that religion should not be judge by what a few people do but by what their scriptures say. And we say the terrorist are the true Muslim because of what they Quran says and the Hadiths not only because of their action.

In the same way standard we are to judge other Religion. I ask you qoute what the Bible say that gives inspiration to spausal abuse. you keep on Quoting what somebody says and not what the Bible says. Do you hear English?

Tell me your Language and I will ask someone to interpret it for you. We are not accusing Islam byhear say but by what their scriptures say.This is the basis of our condeming Islam. Do the same for Christianity.

is my mother another shariah for you?

No

But she can certainly enlighten you on your obsession

so it means that anything that whatever circumstances enlightens you or entertains you regardless Islamic or unIslamic, you go with those. Thank you m&p, I got my answer.

Ok Mr Pastor. Have it your own way.

Whilst I bring forth the evidence regarding domestic violence Mr Pastor, please explain the following verses. You are not allowed to link them to any other verses (remember this is the approach you like to take with verses from the Holy Qur'an).....you cannot link these to ANY OTHER VERSE.

5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Please explain?

5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

So this basically means that divorced women can no longer marry and live a life of misery - their status is such that whoever marries them has committed adultery......very merciful and compassionate indeed Mr Pastor.

Please explain. And remember, you cannot refer to ANY other verse in the new testament. Good luck.

Remember the golden rule - no other verses can be used to justify this verse:

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

I CAME NOT TO SEND PEACE

10:34 is a good one to completely destroy your defences Mr Pastor. Remember, no other verse can be quoted by you..........

10:34 - Result.

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

So in order to be a good christian Mr Pastor, you must HATE YOUR WIFE and CHILDREN and PARENTS.......

You have to make sure you teach your wife a good lesson every now and then.

Game over Mr Pastor.

Islam will lead for future. this fact. only one god that is Allah wollaston say in his book 1/2 hour with Muhammad.best book.

quran say about our parent.
23. Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him, and (that ye show) kindness to parents. If one of them or
both of them to attain old age with thee, say not "Fie" unto them nor repulse them, but speak unto them a gracious word.
24. And lower unto them the wing of submission through mercy, and say: My Lord! Have mercy on them both as they
did care for me when I was little.

all over the world back to islam.islam make afrika, asia free from romawi.thousand year they kill people there even before jesus born and then kill jesus you must think this.all the people now back to islam coz islam save our soul forever.have one god that is Allah.
Surah 112. Al-Ikhlas
1. Say: He is Allah, the One!
2. Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
3. He begetteth not nor was begotten.
4. And there is none comparable unto Him.

Abraham and his son make kakbah in makkah.now all people from all country every year more than 4000.000 come for hajj(pilgrim)

127. And when Abraham and Ishmael(grand grand father of prophet Muhammad) were raising the foundations of the House(Kakbah), (Abraham prayed): Our Lord(Allah)! Accept
from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Nearer, the Knower.
128. Our Lord! And make us submissive unto Thee and of our seed a nation submissive unto Thee, and show us our
ways of worship, and relent toward us. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Relenting, the Merciful.
129. Our Lord(Allah)! And raise up in their midst a messenger from among them who shall recite unto them Thy revelations,
and shall instruct them in the Scripture and in wisdom and shall make them grow. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty,
Wise.
130. And who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself? Verily We chose him in the world,
and lo! in the Hereafter he is among the righteous.
131. When his Lord (Allah)said unto him: Surrender! he said: I have surrendered to the Lord(Allah) of the Worlds.

You better stop pasting those nonsense you call scriptures everywhere or else we will ask the Adm to band you from this site

So in order to be a good christian Mr Pastor, you must HATE YOUR WIFE and CHILDREN and PARENTS.......

You kill yours idiot...You would kill your wife for serious sharia violations regarding sex, or for apostasy, or for your, 'O so precious 'honor'... according to sharia you can also kill your children and grand children...

What a filthy hypocrite you are mangy cur...

Keep it up - you're doing a fab job

Here is one for Duh, as he obviously does not understand simple English:

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

Hate: To dislike 'intensely'.....to detest

"Whilst I bring forth the evidence regarding domestic violence Mr Pastor, please explain the following verses. You are not allowed to link them to any other verses (remember this is the approach you like to take with verses from the Holy Qur'an).....you cannot link these to ANY OTHER VERSE. "

Did I tell you not to give context to your scripture? The problem is that the Quran does not have any reasonable context to the made to order verses of Mohammed untill you read the hadiths

At any case you have agreed that when you read the verses before and after you get the correct meaning of the verses you raised. That answers your questions

let me explain this one "Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

This simply means supreme love for God above any other else. That none of these close relations should stand between you and God. It does not mean you should hate them to be a true christaina.

Do you think you understand?

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

Hate: To dislike 'intensely'.....to detest

Would you like a translation in another language Mr Pastor?

It's fairly clear that in order to be a Christian fundie, you have to detest pretty much everyone......apart from the 'lord and saviour' off course.

Cheers.......big ears!

Still won't address me directly will you coward...How many times must I btch slap you before you slink back into the swamp you came out of?

'Here is one for Duh, as he obviously does not understand simple English:'

And you do not understand straight forward talk Mangy cur...Posting scripture to me is stupidity in action...

You don't even know the nature of Jesus sword you filth know nothing...Jesus never owned a steel sword idiot, his sword was symbolic, but how can a dirty Muslim know that...

This stands...What a filthy hypocrite you are mangy cur...

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

It seems there is still one person who dies not understand simple English - maybe this is because his brain is full of sh*t.....

Anyway, google translate is a free service available on t'internet...

10:34 and 14:26 go together quite nicely and leave no room for any doubt (for the Christian fundies)

Sword & Hatred

Hatred for everyone you ought to love.

The idiot continues to display his idiocy...If you had a brain mangy cur, you would take it out and play with it...Of course playing with 'it' is one of your problems already...

The holy Quran show people how they can become the best they can be. How they can live a pure life of joy and happiness. It shows you how to have respect and care for others, and help others who might be less fortunate. Allah provides us free will so there is no fence. You are able to become who you want to become and live your life as you want to. Allah provides you the Sun, water, fertile lands and food, what you make of it is up to you. One would think respecting it and respecting Allah might not be a bad way to go.

Duh I realize there is no name calling in that, but I would rather discuss the topic versus name calling

Duh does not have the capacity to be civilised - this is something that is very difficult, in fact impossible for him to do.

It's advisable to ignore such people who on the one hand have a deluded view of Muslims, yet on the other hand they do not have anything useful to contribute is 'any' discussion about 'anything'. Some of the fundamental requirements of civilised debate and discussion are Intellect, closely followed by respect and understanding. In this regard, Duh is (with all due respect) a completely useless pri*k.....it has to be said.

Do not expect any civilised conversation here.....

You don't discuss anything Pancho, you sermonize and lie...Your credibility is on the same level with the other Muslim idiots posting here Pancho......

Here is a list of the gods that Muhammad referred to in Surah 2 Al-Bakarah (The Holy Cow) of his Qur'an:
Ar-Rashid The Guide to the Right Path 2:256
As-Sabur The Timeless, The Patient 2:153
Al-Badi' The Incomparable, The Unattainable 2:117
Al-'Aleem The All Knowing, The Omniscient 2:158
Al-Qabid The Restrainer, The Straightener 2:245
Al-Basit The Extender / Expander 2:245
Al-Hayy The Living 2:255
As-Sami' The All Hearing 2:127, 2:256
Al-Qayyum The Subsisting, The Guardian 2:255
Al Haleem The Forbearing, The Indulgent 2:235
Al-Wahid The One, The Unique 2:163
Al-Wasi' The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Omnipresent, The Boundless 2:268
At-Tawwab The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting 2:128, 4:64, 49:12, 110:3

Also Ar-Rahman, the Babylonian thunder god and Ar-Raheem, a cognative name, translated as Merciful in numerous passages.

Surrah 2 was one of the last of the Muhammad's "revalations" (number 87). By this time he had gathered a large following due to all the booty and slaves he and his marauders were acquiring with their murderous raids. As he became more and more powerful his list of gods that he acquired also grew.

Are you still obsessed with Asma-ul-husna

Let me guess....

You are convinced that someone (ideally) might take you seriously?

There is more chance of Duh finding a woman who likes him (obviously a blind woman)

I was not sermonizing, I was merley explaining my counterpoint that Islam does not "fence" in a person, rather it releases them to freedom. So far 3 post replies from you and 3 different names, Idiot, Pancho and Cripple. YOu know calling someone a cripple is in very bad taste. Physically challenged people should not be made fun of but rather helped to isnure they have the same chance as anyone to make it in life.

Duh misses the point

Duh has missed the point for the last xx years..........

Let me see if I can explain Mat 5:31, 32 for you. This is not a teaching you can understand easily with your multiple wives mentality.

God initial plan for marriage is one man one wife and that there should be no divorce until death do you part. If there is no divorce where will you have divorcee? And so remarriage will not be necessary or be a problem. God made provision for divorce in the Old Testament because of the hardness of men’s heart and on one condition fornication which is sex before marriage and not adultery which is sex with one not married to after you have been married to someone else. There is no provision for divorce after marriage. So the problem of remarriage does not arise and if it arose you bear the consequence of your unchastity.
Is it not a common phenomenon that a woman who has a child outside marriage finds it difficult to get married to a fresh bachelor?. So what is strange in what Jesus said he who married a divorcee committee Adultery. If there is no divorce there will be no remarriage problem in the first.

This is a hard teaching inst it? Especially haven’t been brainwashed by that womanizer turned prophet of yours that you can divorce a woman by just saying I divorce 3 times. That You can keep on changing women as you want but don’t transgress the limit of 4. But you never asked yourself why was this “prophet” transgressed his limit of 4 wives yet threatening his wives that he can change any of them any time any day and Allah will give him a more beautiful one. What a deceit? He even dreamt of having 72 angelic virgin in heaven, a heaven that he was not sure of going there not knowing that there is nothing like marriage in heaven Mt 22:29,30

You said sarcastically “very merciful and compassionate indeed Mr Pastor. “

If I may ask you which of two teachings about marriage from Jesus and Mohammed gives women more security, mercy compassion and protection?

Remember Mohammed said you can beat them and divorce them at will but said Jesus said love them and don’t divorce them until death. Remember, Mohammed said they are like domestic animal, like a ground to tilt to produce children only, that you can marry up to 4 of them, for they have half the IQ of a man, half a witness in a law court and because Eve made the tree to bleed Allah made them stupid, in fact they constitute the majority of the dweller of hell because of being disobedient to their husband, they should always cover their faces because they are sources of temptation to men. But Jesus taught that men should love their wives as themselves because they are coheirs of the grace of God together. In the site of God man and woman are equal before him then why the discrimination and the demeaning of women in Islam?

Tell me who is a compassionate and merciful God? You must be careful not to go into debate that you cannot sustain with your demonic scriptures in this a civilized world.

Let me also explain to you Mat 10:34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. “ read also Lk 12:49-53 this is what you may call the sword verses of the New Testament.

Let remind you that the person speaking here is the prince of peace , the person that it was said of him in Act 10:38 “ How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.” Anywhere he went or preached to people about him, there was always joy of salvation and deliverance in that City.

The Question you should ask your self is did he give us an example of the kind of Sword he was talking about? At least we know when Mohammed talk of sword you know it was a literal sword because he lead by example for he lead in not less than 75 Islamic raids or robbery or war or Jihad in the Islamic parlance. This are really bloody fighting for booty and for Allah cause. Any example in the case of Jesus? Not one, even when his disciple wanted to use their sword to defend him he refused, meaning that it was not that kind of sword he was talking about. It was not a literal sword. But persecution that will arise as a result of one believing in him. If you ask the Iranians they will tell you because recently their Islamic court sentenced their blood brother to death and his offense was that he believe in Jesus and wanted to go to heaven Jesus preached about.

This is the sword Christian expect from a Satanic Religion like Islam and from any unbeliever in Christ. Jesus was not spared and we don’t expect the world to treat us better. Our only consolation is that in Christ only we have assurance of life with God forever; if you want to join us to heaven you are welcome. But you have to be careful because you may lose your head.


Do you think you understand? Cheers.

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

Your explanations are YOUR EXPLANATIONS

Please let me know which language you would like me to translate 10:34 & 14:26 into as you are struggling very much to understand simple english.

Cheers

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword

Luke 14:26: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

Mr Pastor,

10:34 and 14:26 are simple english. You can make up whatever story you want to make up in order to try and justify.

Cheers.

More 'mercy and compassion'

Luke 12:51-53

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Cheers.

Repeating those verses here simply shows how irrational you are because by reading few verses before and after one could easily discover the meaning and the intent of those verses. I took time to explain to you not because I have surplus time to spare but because I love you and I want your eyes to be opened to the truth that can save you. Who knows God might liberate your eternal soul from eternal damnation because of believing in an evil cult religion that have no hope of salvation for you.

Clement, I appreciate your last comments as they have shown support for the same argument that I have made on this blog many many times. You stated "reading few verses before and after one could easily discover the meaning and the intent of those verses". I have been tell you and many others on this blog for a long time you cannot take one verse of a Surah and then discern the meaning, you need to take the entire chapter in whole. Again thank you for your support on this!

[quoteI love you and I want your eyes to be opened to the truth that can save you.

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http://islam-watch.org/index.p...&Itemid=58

Feb 24th you said:

When those Muslim file behind him in prostration ignorantly they did not know that they are actually bowing down to Muhammad the thing he so much cherished."

On the same link (24th Feb), you cherry picked verses from the Noble Qur'an, yet here you are saying to me re the Bible:

Repeating those verses here simply shows how irrational you are because by reading few verses before and after one could easily discover the meaning and the intent of those verses.

Same link (24th Feb), you said:

Me I am proud to be classified as Islamop**bic

Islama**obia: Preju*ice and hatred against muslims (as per 14:26)

So you are telling me (a muslim) that you love me, yet on the other hand you are proud to be Islamapho*ic.

You've been exposed Pastor - fair and square

Hypocrisy & Lies

Cheers........big ears.

I was not sermonizing,

Besides insulting those opposed to Islam, that's all you do is sermonize...I expect nothing less from a deluded pious Muslim...I have yet to see you criticize your brothers for hateful language and name calling...are you afraid of them, or are all your condemnations reserved for kuffar?

I dont insult others and allow them to choose as they may there own path. That is not sermonizing. I have said several times that using foul language to make ones point is just not a good way to go about it. That applies to all, not just you.

'I dont insult others'...What a lie that is...You have insulted me numerous times...Which is fine with me because I get a chance to insult you back, but your claim of innocence is a lie...You are too clever to use foul language, as do your filthy brothers, but your insults are loud and clear just the same...You are as they are, religious supremacist bigots, you are just better educated, and too smart to curse...I actually give you credit for that, but not much...

Im not insulting anyone, rather just presenting my points on the topic at hand. Now if someone chooses to take that the wrong way or interpret it incorrectly I really cannot do much about that aside from clarifying the remarks. Calling people names, using certain foul language does nothing but degrade your point of view and frankly will lower your own intellectual value.

Im not insulting anyone, rather just presenting my points on the topic

Not today maybe Pancho, but you are guilty as sin in the not to distant past...You are like the rest of your brothers, you just can't take responsibility for your own behavior and words...

Again I am presenting my viewpoints, without the need for vulgarity, name calling or other derogatory behavior. That is not much to ask for now, is it? Just trying to live in peace and harmony

Anyone can be good for a day or two hypocrite Malman...Your act may fool your vulgar brothers, but it does not fool me...I got your number...

I am not sure what you mean by you have my number. Do you mean my cell number and which one, the one that begins with +20-108 or +254-771? Or do you mean my lucky lottery number? Sorry I do not gamble so that will not be of any use for me. However I only asked to have a civil discussion, no names, no vulgarity, no hateful words, yet you refuse. Sorry that is the way you want to converse, i would much rather hear you articulate your viewpoint (which I know you can, as you have done it quite well in the past).

I am not sure what you mean by you have my number.

Haha I guess you are unfamiliar with western sayings, 'I got your number', it's common in America...It means most nearly' I have you figured out'...which I do Pancho...

That's the 6th post to Malman administrated since yesterday...I guess Allah doesn't want me to strain his brain to much...I was going to explain numbers, but that will have to come later...