Asians include people of Asian descent, namely Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and others. And in the UK, where Muslim immigrants, who are mostly from Asia, commit any horrible crime and violence in overwhelmingly higher proportions, but authorities and the media report them as crimes by "Asians".
Muslims engages in violent protests on the streets of London are reported as being committed by Asians.
 UK pedophile rape-gang: For UK authority and media, they are "Asians", meaning potentially Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Christian. But whodunnit? They all follow Islam. |
Muslims organizing vile demonstrations to support the perpetrators of 9/11 terror attacks would be identified as Asians.
Muslims have much higher propensity to commit vandalism, murder, robbery or rapes, but all such crimes would be labeled as crimes by Asians.
The fact is: Asian immigrants of Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist descent commit such horrible crimes much fewer instances than Muslims. Labeling them as “Asian” makes the Hindus, Sikhs or Buddhists equally responsible for those predominantly Muslims-committed crimes.
And the latest controversy in this Asian crime propaganda by the media and authority is the case of Muslim pedophilia rape-gang’s sexual grooming of underage girls from youth centers and raping them.
And media and the authority have duly reported the culprits as Asian rape-gang, which automatically includes the Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists amongst those vile criminals.
And only after this long-running case was completed and members of the pedophile rape-gang were punished and their names came out that people could know that all members were Muslims. In other words, the pedophilia rape-gang was an exclusive Muslim venture. But all throughout the running of the case, Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist immigrants from Asia also have been made a culpable part of it by the media and authority.
It is abhorrent in the least – on part of the media and UK authority – to make the Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist immigrant communities to make culpable of this horrible exclusively Muslim crime venture, but they seems to be adamant on justifying and continuing this vile project of tainting the image of the innocent Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist communities of UK with this predominantly Muslim crimes and violence.
And at long last, on the backdrop of the horrible Muslim pedophile rape-gang case, some Hindu and Sikh groups are opening their mouths against this unjustified campaign of the media and authority in order to extricate their names from the crimes they do not have any part in. According to a BBC report – Complaints over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases – groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in grooming trials, in which nine men, all Muslims of Pakistani-Afghan descent, were jailed for running a sex-ring that groomed young girls for sex in Rochdale.
In a joint statement by the Network of Sikh Organisations UK, The Hindu Forum of Britain, and The Sikh Media Monitoring Group UK, charged that media and the government is reluctance to discuss the "disproportionate representation of Muslims in such cases".
They also said blanket use of the word "Asian" was "unfair to other communities of Asian origin".
"We believe that in this case the government itself is sanctioning the use of term Asian as a way of clouding responsibility," the groups say, especially when sex-gangs (certainly Muslim) have targeted Hindu and Sikh girls, which the media rarely reports as they seldom go to courts.
The statement said:
"We believe that political correctness stifles debate and will not facilitate a frank and mature discussion or solutions to get to the root of why the above pattern is emerging in these crimes and how to help find a solution to the problem.
"We will not be able to do that if we mask the identity of those involved based on misguided views of 'protecting a vulnerable community' of the perpetrators and not looking at the vulnerable community of victims."
Trevor Phillips, the chair of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, insisting that labeling those predominantly Muslim criminals as “Asian” was appropriate and justified, said, the race of the men involved could not be ignored and it was "fatuous" to deny racial and cultural factors.
To Mr. Phillips, it seems the "religion" factor, which is the real culprit, has no relevance to these crimes. And this is what is "fatuous" thinking in truth.
Police, on the other hand, think race is not relevant here. According to assistant chief constable Steve Heywood of Greater Manchester Police, the pedophile rape-gang case was not about race; it was not "racially motivated" but about "adults preying on vulnerable young children".
Yet, interestingly the police, while disclosing information to media about these criminal activities, identify the perpetrators as “Asians”.
It is a good development that the non-Muslim Asian communities in the UK have started speaking up against taking blames for crimes overwhelmingly committed by Muslims. They should continue this every time an incident of crime by Asians is reported, demanding release of the perpetrator’s identity.
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written by Milkha Singh , May 18, 2012
The British find it difficult to blame pakistanis because in future they are going to be the masters of Britainistan. I await the day when House of Windsor is forced to convert.
written by balam , May 18, 2012
The Editor has deliberately avoided the mention of Asian Christians who are larger in number than the Budhists.They are also painted by the same brush.The British Police seems to be afraid of the Muslim.There are certain areas in ENGLAD where the Muslims apply Sharia Laws and Police dare not enter there.Same situation exists in France.Britain no longer remains Great Britain but a BANANA ISLAMIC REPUBLIC ,soon to be taken over by Muslims..Theywill make corruption and bribery legal.WORK will become a four letter word for Muslims.Only Kafirs will be made to work and pay Jizzya.The non-Muslim women will be offered to become concubines for Muslims.Then the main export will be the White British women to Rich Arabs for CASH.Britain has lost its dignity by being too political correct and most coward.
written by Editor, M A Khan , May 18, 2012
The Christian Asians didn't strike my mind, probably because Christians are almost synonymous with Europeans. And I really don't have any idea about Christian Asian population in the UK. Thanks for making aware of.
written by lw1 , May 18, 2012
Your opinion is valuable and where you live is not relevant to the discussion.
That is just a tactic to divert from the discussion.
I do not live in Iraq but I was asking Muslims what the Muslims were doing to stop the massacre Saddam was committing. Now I am asking the same about Syria and haven't had a reply.
It is encouraging that Hindu and Sikh groups are speaking up now, better late than never.
Let us hope that tiny,tiny trickle of Muslims who leave Islam gathers force.
To contact ex-muslims in UK --www.ex-muslim.org.uk
That is just a tactic to divert from the discussion.
I do not live in Iraq but I was asking Muslims what the Muslims were doing to stop the massacre Saddam was committing. Now I am asking the same about Syria and haven't had a reply.
It is encouraging that Hindu and Sikh groups are speaking up now, better late than never.
Let us hope that tiny,tiny trickle of Muslims who leave Islam gathers force.
To contact ex-muslims in UK --www.ex-muslim.org.uk
written by Abc , May 18, 2012
Why don't you pack away the prejudice. Come with an open mind and see.
We are about to host the biggest sporting event in our history. London and the rest of the UK is open for business. Try to find these no go zones if they exist!!
Hearing about something on fox news is not the same as being there.
So I urge anyone who can afford it, come and see what the uk has to offer.
Why read about it, come and live it!
We are about to host the biggest sporting event in our history. London and the rest of the UK is open for business. Try to find these no go zones if they exist!!
Hearing about something on fox news is not the same as being there.
So I urge anyone who can afford it, come and see what the uk has to offer.
Why read about it, come and live it!
written by Max , May 18, 2012
Another leading culprit in this sad saga, is labour MP Keith Vaz. He has abrogated his responsibility as a lawmaker by making excuses to these muslim low life. I congratulate Baroness Warsi standing up and calling a spade a spade, and she is a muslim!
written by vbv , May 19, 2012
You are right. Someone once said that the sun will never set on the British empire. Harharharhar! British are reaping the fruits of their sins. The debunked hindu civilisation and culture; they supported muslims all through until 9/11 and 7/7 happened. Now they are fettered by muslims in the UK calling for its islamisation. Some Lion ,indeed, the british are, they are petrified even to meow like a cat , let alone roar like a lion , before their muslim population which cannot be more than 5% of the total population. If the muslims become 25% of the population the anglosaxon would probably jump into the english channel much to the discomfort of their once brave ancestors like King Arthur,etc. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....!!!!!
written by balam , May 19, 2012
May I correct you that the Asian Christians do not look like Europeans and the word 'CHRISTIAN' is not printed on their foreheads.They also do not wear any symbol like skull cap,black mark on their forehead- adecptive sign of piety and a fistful of beard.The Muslims are only recognised by their fruits like titution,grooming young white girls for pedophillia necrophillia,,rapes,honour killing,frauds,drugs ,deception, POLYGAMY and TERRORISM ect.All these acts are legally carried out in Muslim countries or blind eye turned to those acts.Have you ever heard of a native CHRISTIAN terrorist in a Muslim country?
written by balam , May 19, 2012
The sun never sets on the British Empire.It was the time when the British followed their Christian principles.Now the sun hardly rises here often enough.Islam is slowly creeping into Britain.This country is under the CURSE of GOD where the Arch Bishop of Canterbury wants Sharia laws enforced into this Christian country.Soon,he could recommend polygammy,pedophilla,necrophillia ect as well to appease the Muslims.
written by balam , May 19, 2012
I can give you a clue.I get the Social Security at the same office as you do.Which mosque do you attend for your Inspiration?The word mosque,by the way,comes from the word 'MOSQUITO'.More later.
written by Truth Speaker , May 19, 2012
It is 100% true.Hindus,Shikhs,Buddhists,Jains or Atheists all should clearly say the truth-being Asian doesn't mean to take the responsibility of some others,of a particular community, who are guilty for almost all the cases.
written by Abc , May 19, 2012
You are on your own then.
I don't do social and mosque is your word.
But your refusal to answer the question has answered my question.
I don't do social and mosque is your word.
But your refusal to answer the question has answered my question.
written by balam , May 19, 2012
I am glad you know a few alphabets.It is quite an achiement for a Muslim and that you can use the Muslim Invention like computer and Internet.Get back to your hole in Pakistan.Pedophillia is SUNNA which Muslims tend to practice.It is neither Immoral nor criminal in Muslim eyes.
written by dara , May 19, 2012
hindu girls are abducted on a daily basis in pakistan and forced to marry mohhamadons and then threats are made against them to say they had gone away with these muslims by there own choice muslim male mind set is the same the world over.they think non muslim woman are fair game .
written by Right Thinking , May 19, 2012
Actually, Sikhs and Hindus do engage in such behaviour. In the Slough area Sikhs have engaged in similar group-activites predating on young British girls. The local authorities, police and so called "community leaders" (who couldn't give a shit anayway, so long as their own girls don't have to suffer sexual abuse) are aware of the problem but the local Sikh community has a great deal of clout in the local council and with Fiona MacTaggart their Labour MP which prevents the issue being addressed publicly.
written by Right Thinking , May 19, 2012
This is not to say that the Muslim problem doesn't exist either. In fact, despite their historical animosity the Sikhs and Muslims can come to amicable arrangements when it concerns British girls. It's the only thing they actually can agree on and work together without fighitng. Sick, Sick, Sikh.
written by vbv , May 20, 2012
That is the worst joke of all. What has christianity to do with expansionism ? Or are you admitting that colonisation, plunder of resources from the colonies, looting and plundering of the colonies , enslaving peoples of the colonies, exporting slaves for cheap labour , rape massacres, etc were all inspired by christianity ? Then that jewish mendicant was definitely a big imposter , a charlatan who called himself the son of a socalled "god" to perpetrate all such evil practices. It is treally the worst sham in history that was bettered by Muhamad and his evil cronies that has spread the intolerant poison of monotheism everywhere and destroyed many indegenous cultures.
written by Archpagan , May 20, 2012
Regarding first part of your post, I would like to point out that teenaged boys belonging to all races indulge in eve-teasing. Even girls indulge in Adam-teasing when they out-number boys.
written by Archpagan , May 20, 2012
Perhaps your Winston Churchill once said - the appeaser feeds to the crocodile, hoping that it will devour him last. Perhaps this is the philosophy behind political correctness.
written by balam , May 20, 2012
Over 60 million Hindus were killed by the Muslims during their rule in India.Your women and girls were raped which produced illegtimate children which are the Muslims of today in India,Pakistan and Bangladwsh.It can be proved by their DNA results.AS a low caste Hindu ,you should never forget that the British came to India while Hindu majority were being ruled by Muslims who were defeated by a small army of the Britis.You are basically weaklings and coward by nature.You could never stand up to the ferocious WOLVES of Allah called Muslim Invaders.You are cow worshipping which can even be sired by a BULL.Your women even worship PENIS as god and kiss that.Your Ignorance about the Christian faith does not amaze me.Carry on worshipping your cows,snakes,elephants and above all PENIS.Grow up little brown hindu for a change.
written by Abc , May 20, 2012
Calm down slumdog! That sounds like fighting talk.
Vbv is a low caste Hindu is he?
You can prove the Indian Muslims are rape babies?
Ah a bit of bigotry. Hindus are weaklings and cowards??
Nothing like painting with a broad brush!!
So much for the famous Christian tolerance.
Cow, penis, etc etc. classic.
Insult away slumdog, it doesn't matter because Jesus has already paid for your insults!
Has somebody not had their bible juice today?
If you ask hard enough maybe the sky daddy will respond.
Unless he is changing places with his son and ghost!!
Clown
Vbv is a low caste Hindu is he?
You can prove the Indian Muslims are rape babies?
Ah a bit of bigotry. Hindus are weaklings and cowards??
Nothing like painting with a broad brush!!
So much for the famous Christian tolerance.
Cow, penis, etc etc. classic.
Insult away slumdog, it doesn't matter because Jesus has already paid for your insults!
Has somebody not had their bible juice today?
If you ask hard enough maybe the sky daddy will respond.
Unless he is changing places with his son and ghost!!
Clown
written by Abc , May 20, 2012
Calm down slumdog! That sounds like fighting talk.
Vbv is a low caste Hindu is he?
You can prove the Indian Muslims are rape babies?
Ah a bit of bigotry. Hindus are weaklings and cowards??
Nothing like painting with a broad brush!!
So much for the famous Christian tolerance.
Cow, penis, etc etc. classic.
Insult away slumdog, it doesn't matter because Jesus has already paid for your insults!
Has somebody not had their bible juice today?
If you ask hard enough maybe the sky daddy will respond.
Unless he is changing places with his son and ghost!!
Clown
Vbv is a low caste Hindu is he?
You can prove the Indian Muslims are rape babies?
Ah a bit of bigotry. Hindus are weaklings and cowards??
Nothing like painting with a broad brush!!
So much for the famous Christian tolerance.
Cow, penis, etc etc. classic.
Insult away slumdog, it doesn't matter because Jesus has already paid for your insults!
Has somebody not had their bible juice today?
If you ask hard enough maybe the sky daddy will respond.
Unless he is changing places with his son and ghost!!
Clown
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 20, 2012
When has the "stoned-gawd" allah EVER responded to humans to help them in their needs? So you fight here over whose imaginative "helper" is better?
BTW where are the seven heavens your stoned-gawd claimed to has created?
Or the 6 earths?
BTW where are the seven heavens your stoned-gawd claimed to has created?
Or the 6 earths?
written by abc , May 20, 2012
You are going to have to do better than that!
All in good time! Tick tock tick tock,
All in good time! Tick tock tick tock,
written by abc , May 20, 2012
You have the morals of a sewer rat!
"written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 20, 2012
Thanks for proving my point yet again, name-calling is one of the last avenues left for Muslims like yourself because your "religion" CAN NOT BE defended"
That is what you posted to me for calling balam a slumdog even though he started it.
I observe your silence when balam is insulting vbv!
Low caste, bigoted Hindu statement, Insulting his beliefs, with a spot of racism thrown in at the end! But that's ok he is not a Muslim so gets a fee pass from proudkaffir!
Proudkaffir how do you spell hyppocrite???
"written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 20, 2012
Thanks for proving my point yet again, name-calling is one of the last avenues left for Muslims like yourself because your "religion" CAN NOT BE defended"
That is what you posted to me for calling balam a slumdog even though he started it.
I observe your silence when balam is insulting vbv!
Low caste, bigoted Hindu statement, Insulting his beliefs, with a spot of racism thrown in at the end! But that's ok he is not a Muslim so gets a fee pass from proudkaffir!
Proudkaffir how do you spell hyppocrite???
written by vbv , May 21, 2012
I am proud to be a "low caste hindu" , for we ,along with the schedule tribes in India are the original inhabitants of this country that produced great civilisations like the Indus Valley civilisation . Mohenjadaro and Harrappa were two of the best planned cities of those times with water supply-system, sewerage-systems, public baths , neat roads, markets , not to speak of ports like in Lothal on the coast of Gujurath ,etc. This was over 5,000 years ago . What were you in Europe doing at that time ? living in Caves ? Even your maniacal nut Abraham , the founder of judaism waqs not even born then, and monotheistic bullshits were yet to come by atleast 2000 years later. What have the aryans, huns, greeks,muslims,and much later have done to this magnificent and peaceful country : only destructions. First came the barbarians from the northwest who destroyed this great civilisation that flourished continuously over 5000 years before these marauders and looters ,who came around 1,500 BCE , then came others one after other hearing the fabulous riches and civilisation that flourished for so long. Mind you , even the Europeans went in search for this fabulous land thousands of years later when much of its resources were already depleted after thousands of years of looters and maraudrerers had ravaged this land. Columbus went west and landed in America, while Vaso Da Gama came to India , and then followed other merceneries alongwith their evil padres for their share of loot.
So what are you trying to mouth to humiliate me? Your mouth is already filthy , when you called me a "low caste hindu". I am not a hindu , but the descendent of the original inhabitants of this Indian subcontinent, and I am an atheist , and I hold no brief for any religion or god, not even the hindu cult and its myriads of gods. But I find hinduism is better than any of the monotheistic mad cults which thrive on coercion ,force and the phoney concept of "blasphemy" which calls for the killing of nonbelievers/infidels/heretics,etc. In India , the charavakas who were contemporaries of the vedic people derided and criticised it without fear of any "blasphemy" , Budhism, Jainism and other such non-theistic cults sprang and nobody face persecution and witch-hunting like inquisition. You cannot say the same thing about christianity and islam which are the most intolerant cults in the world which seeks to convert people by any means - by force, frauds and lies and improbable promises of a socalled "heaven". I am proud to be a dalit and I do not have to fall for all that phoney bullshits.
So what are you trying to mouth to humiliate me? Your mouth is already filthy , when you called me a "low caste hindu". I am not a hindu , but the descendent of the original inhabitants of this Indian subcontinent, and I am an atheist , and I hold no brief for any religion or god, not even the hindu cult and its myriads of gods. But I find hinduism is better than any of the monotheistic mad cults which thrive on coercion ,force and the phoney concept of "blasphemy" which calls for the killing of nonbelievers/infidels/heretics,etc. In India , the charavakas who were contemporaries of the vedic people derided and criticised it without fear of any "blasphemy" , Budhism, Jainism and other such non-theistic cults sprang and nobody face persecution and witch-hunting like inquisition. You cannot say the same thing about christianity and islam which are the most intolerant cults in the world which seeks to convert people by any means - by force, frauds and lies and improbable promises of a socalled "heaven". I am proud to be a dalit and I do not have to fall for all that phoney bullshits.
written by vbv , May 21, 2012
Okay we worship cows, snakes,trees, and "pennis". So what they are all living and useful . What do you worship ? A spook that no one has seen and a corpse hanging nailed to a wooden cross. ??? And this man who died so helplessly is an utter failure in his life , but his tragic death provided a drama for some to exploit it and spread poison of hate and contempt towards all but self-love to that corpse. Atleast we do not worship corpses and spooks that has no real existence.
written by balam , May 21, 2012
You should thank the very people you HATE,whose technology you use to spit out your VENOM.A man is as he thinks.You suffer from acute sense of Inferiority because you are Inferior.You are full of HATE because you never got any love from your closest one.You do not have any PEACE in your life.You will remain restless till your last breath.May God have mercy on you.He still loves us as a Father whether we believe in Him or not because He created all of us.Can you afford a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist?It might help.Without malice,I write.
written by vbv , May 21, 2012
I do not need any advice or sympathy from anyone. I call a spade a spade. That is all. I am not hating anyone , but I also do not do the charade of "loving everyone" that christian missioneries do in the most hypocritical and sanctimonious manner with the sole intention of converting the gullible to this farcical idealogy which actually preaches hatred by calling names on those who are not christians like 'pagans', hereitics, 'polytheists(as though monotheism is all virtue and goodness), with contempt and derision, sporting some kind of superior airs. These monotheistic cults of west Asia are responsible for most of the wars destruction of flourishing cultures and civilisations, colonising and enslaving people on the basis of race and religion, genocides, massacres, plunderings , lootings, rapings etc.... All in the name of that megalomaniacal monotheistic monster-spook called Allah/Yahweh and its socalled cronies Muhamad and Jesus. So what inferiority complex you are talking of ? I am proud to belong to an ancient culture despite all its drawbacks , because it gives me an identity and respect , and also today it the backward castes in India have a lot of say in the governance of the country and things are improving and I can see great future for the original inhabitants of this country.
written by vbv , May 22, 2012
And talking of slavery, just who did these christian missioneries convert ? Not the uppercaste hindus or the muslims. They converted the lower castes giving false hopes. The white man in their colonial rule colluded with the ruling classcomprising the jagirdars, zamindars, nawabs, the rajas, the brahmins and ground the poor working class to the dust. They also enslaved the poor backward castes , after converting them to christianity by fraudulent means, enslaved them and exported them to South Africa, the west Indies , ceylon, and other colonies to serve as indentured labourers. And you have the temerity to deride me of being a "low-caste" . The white-skinned scumbags and the sanctimonious ,evil and dissembling padres were in cohorts in committing all these attrocities , just as they were in the American continents ,while they now hypocritically pontificate about humanrights elsewhere.
written by vbv , May 22, 2012
What 'god' and what mercy are you talking of ? The Biblical "god" was a megalomaniacal monster steeped in arrogance and extreme narcissistic self-love, with a deranged mentality and extremely vengeful calling for death and destruction of all those who do not submit to its diktats ; and this is exactly the same with the islamic "god" called Allah. And yet it is contended that they are both merciful ,"a mercy to mankind" or whatever bullshit. I don't believe in that malevolent, evil monotheistic spook of yours. A desolate, lonely spook who has nothing worthwhile to do but issue all kinds of violent threats and instigate the lunatic followers to carry out the evil pogroms. Ofcourse ,the spook doesn't actually exist but in those evil books and in the minds of its creator and the fanatical zealots .
written by Rationalist , May 22, 2012
vbv and Balam,
Listen folks whatever may be the scriptural injunctions of Christianity or Hinduism, the real fact is that in all Hindu or Christian-dominated countries democracy prevails. Can you expect the same in an islamic country? During the time you have been spilling venom over each other, new Jihadis were recruited to undermine human rights, several kaffir women were raped or trapped by Muslim men through love jihad, and mullahs used trumpets to initiate more bloodshed in kaffir areas.
vbv, the atrocities perpetrated by medieval christians are a thing of the past. You can build a temple, pagoda, gurdwara or mandir in the USA, Europe, South America and elsewhere. The same applies in India.
Balam, Hinduism is more than worshiping stones or figures. Start with Upanishads or Gita. You will know what I mean.
So folks stick to Islam. abc and other Muslims escaped thanks to your infighting.
Listen folks whatever may be the scriptural injunctions of Christianity or Hinduism, the real fact is that in all Hindu or Christian-dominated countries democracy prevails. Can you expect the same in an islamic country? During the time you have been spilling venom over each other, new Jihadis were recruited to undermine human rights, several kaffir women were raped or trapped by Muslim men through love jihad, and mullahs used trumpets to initiate more bloodshed in kaffir areas.
vbv, the atrocities perpetrated by medieval christians are a thing of the past. You can build a temple, pagoda, gurdwara or mandir in the USA, Europe, South America and elsewhere. The same applies in India.
Balam, Hinduism is more than worshiping stones or figures. Start with Upanishads or Gita. You will know what I mean.
So folks stick to Islam. abc and other Muslims escaped thanks to your infighting.
written by abc , May 22, 2012
"So folks stick to Islam. abc and other Muslims escaped thanks to your infighting"
what does that even mean?
escaped what and escaped where? do tell rationalist?
what does that even mean?
escaped what and escaped where? do tell rationalist?
written by Ravi , May 22, 2012
Yes a lot Muslims are innocent in all this it's minority that commit these crimes
written by Rationalist , May 22, 2012
I meant you wouldn't discuss about Islam when discussion becomes off-topic. In general, I haven't seen you discuss verses from Quran, hadith, and Islamic terrorism.
written by Rationalist , May 22, 2012
Ok then let's discuss verses from Quran n hadith to show where u stand..... Remember, I won't involve in ur character assassination
written by Abc , May 23, 2012
What is there to say about bunch of vile criminals from greater Manchester!
If there are any more then I hope they get caught and prosecuted by the authorities.
Its time for the British Pakistani community to make sure this does not happen again in their midst. I'm sure they will sort it.
This crime was investigated and put in the public sphere and prosecuted by a British Pakistani. The Ramadan foundation, a body designed to tackle and highlight this sort of crime is up and running. Again by a British Pakistani.
Even baroness warsi has had a go! So theses vile people will get weeded out very quickly!
If there are any more then I hope they get caught and prosecuted by the authorities.
Its time for the British Pakistani community to make sure this does not happen again in their midst. I'm sure they will sort it.
This crime was investigated and put in the public sphere and prosecuted by a British Pakistani. The Ramadan foundation, a body designed to tackle and highlight this sort of crime is up and running. Again by a British Pakistani.
Even baroness warsi has had a go! So theses vile people will get weeded out very quickly!
written by Abc , May 23, 2012
"Remember, I won't involve in ur character assassination"
and vice versa.
But I will always call a spade a spade.
and vice versa.
But I will always call a spade a spade.
written by Rationalist , May 23, 2012
Isn't it unfortunate these criminals have Islamic background? The number of Muslims involved in such crimes increases every year. I believe all these crimes are instigated by Islamic scriptures. Don't you have a hadith that orders to kill Jews even if they are hiding behind a tree or rock." Hope you agree.
You might say hadiths are not to be trusted. The crux is that almost all Muslims follow hadith. You can't deny that.
You might say hadiths are not to be trusted. The crux is that almost all Muslims follow hadith. You can't deny that.
written by Abc , May 23, 2012
It is unfortunate that their actions have cast dispersions on the religion!
You make a statement that these kind of crimes are in the increase.
Can you back up your statement?? Proof please!
Alot of people have different beliefs. It's unfortunate you would think like that.
Maybe a change of name to irrationalist might be more appropriate.
You make a statement that these kind of crimes are in the increase.
Can you back up your statement?? Proof please!
Alot of people have different beliefs. It's unfortunate you would think like that.
Maybe a change of name to irrationalist might be more appropriate.
written by curmudgeon , May 23, 2012
the poison is not monotheism, it is theism. where islam is involved, there really is no reason to parse the different kinds of not-islam (infidels). we are all pretty much the same--subhumans to be enslaved, then murdered, at the whim of our betters. it is way time for all infidels to join together in common cause against our would be genociders--muslims. it doesnt matter what god or not god you worship or dont worship--islam is your mortal enemy, and must be defeated. if we can destroy the greatest evil ever invented-islam, then we can go back to fighting among ourselves as usual.
written by Archpagan , May 23, 2012
Monotheism is only a convenient excuse to intolerance and it is just one step short of atheism. So, it is no surprise that Monotheistic people are the most cruel, immoral and aggressive. In the last 500 years, Christianity only served as a tool for colonialism and neo-colonialism.
written by Yibel , May 24, 2012
The Biblical God has no diktats.
Diktats are unilatterally imposed settlements that deal harsely with a defeated party.
Christians and Jews are NOT defeated parties. They are the sons of G_d. They choose to follow the rules, which are:
Do not Murder
Do not Steal
Do not Covet what thy neighbor has
Do not commit adultery
Honor your parents
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Establish justice
Ensure the rights of the oppressed
Provide for the poor, the widows and the orphans
Do not worship idols (stone-gawds)
Love thy neighbor as thyself
Do you think these are bad rules to follow?
(BTW, the Buddhists have similar rules of conduct.)
Islam imposes diktats on those whom it defeats; i.e. Subjugation, humiliation, jizya, slavery, beheading, amputation of limbs, etc.
Diktats are unilatterally imposed settlements that deal harsely with a defeated party.
Christians and Jews are NOT defeated parties. They are the sons of G_d. They choose to follow the rules, which are:
Do not Murder
Do not Steal
Do not Covet what thy neighbor has
Do not commit adultery
Honor your parents
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Establish justice
Ensure the rights of the oppressed
Provide for the poor, the widows and the orphans
Do not worship idols (stone-gawds)
Love thy neighbor as thyself
Do you think these are bad rules to follow?
(BTW, the Buddhists have similar rules of conduct.)
Islam imposes diktats on those whom it defeats; i.e. Subjugation, humiliation, jizya, slavery, beheading, amputation of limbs, etc.
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
"Christians and Jews are NOT defeated parties. They are the sons of G_d."
You arrogant pagan Christian!!
Children of god!ROTF LMAO!
You arrogant pagan Christian!!
Children of god!ROTF LMAO!
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
"Christians and Jews are NOT defeated parties. They are the sons of G_d. They choose to follow the rules, which are:
Do not Murder
Do not Steal
Do not Covet what thy neighbor has
Do not commit adultery
Honor your parents
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Establish justice
Ensure the rights of the oppressed
Provide for the poor, the widows and the orphans
Do not worship idols (stone-gawds)
Love thy neighbor as thyself"
Yes of course history bears that out!
Thanks for the laughs!
Do not Murder
Do not Steal
Do not Covet what thy neighbor has
Do not commit adultery
Honor your parents
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Establish justice
Ensure the rights of the oppressed
Provide for the poor, the widows and the orphans
Do not worship idols (stone-gawds)
Love thy neighbor as thyself"
Yes of course history bears that out!
Thanks for the laughs!
written by Rationalist , May 24, 2012
Look all around the world... England, Kashmir (India), Pakistan, middle east. Muslim men are at the forefront in doing crimes and rioting. BTW, when Muslims protest why do they hold banners that say " help to democracy", "Europe, another 9/11 on the way". One of the protesters even said "we will take your wives n land."
written by badman , May 24, 2012
iraq solders are raping women every day WHY?
CHILDREN BEING KILLED WHY?
MUSLIM OIL OIL OIL
ENGLAND RULED THE WORLD AND RAPED IT AND STILL IS
STAYED IN MUSLIM LANDS FOR HUNDREDS OFD YEARS RAPED IT LEFT NOW WE HERE IN YOUR LANDS YOUR UPSET
GET THE f**k OUT OF OUR COUNTRIES WE WILL CUT OFF YOUR OIL SUPPLY THEN LETS SEE WHO YOU INVADE NEXT
CHILDREN BEING KILLED WHY?
MUSLIM OIL OIL OIL
ENGLAND RULED THE WORLD AND RAPED IT AND STILL IS
STAYED IN MUSLIM LANDS FOR HUNDREDS OFD YEARS RAPED IT LEFT NOW WE HERE IN YOUR LANDS YOUR UPSET
GET THE f**k OUT OF OUR COUNTRIES WE WILL CUT OFF YOUR OIL SUPPLY THEN LETS SEE WHO YOU INVADE NEXT
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 24, 2012
Yeah and since allah who allegedly gave these instruction in the OT , realized that humans could not live up to this, he abrogated them in his "kooran" "Do not Murder" became except if you kill a person who leaves Islam. " Do not covet what they neighbor has" (this includes wifes as well) was of course put aside, because MuahamMAD took the wife of his adopted son as his own on the expressed direction of his "stoned-gawd" which was laid down in the "eternal" kooran even before the creation of ADAM, since stoned-gad allah knew what will happen, because he wrote the script to this.
"Do not worship Idols" became except if it is " some book" containing the Islamic kooraan, which is more valuable than human life, and therefore some completely innocent people can be killed in rage over the heinous deed that koorans have been burned.
To summarize
Allah gives these rules called the 10 Commandments in the OT, abrogates them in his last "book" and these rules should still be followed by "Christians" while these abrogated rules are no longer valid for Muslims themselves, yet Muslims whine over the failure of Christians to follow rules, the Muslims are not required to keep. Yeah I see the logic behind this, while a Christian may not murder a Muslim according to the rule "Do not Murder" a Muslim can kill a Christian, because he is not bound by these rules, (slay the enemy of allah...) and this is why we see Boko Haram and others kill Christians. Because of this logic "ABC" will of course not declare these rules worthy to be kept and his demented stoned-gawd gave two conflicting laws, commandments humans should follow.
"Do not worship Idols" became except if it is " some book" containing the Islamic kooraan, which is more valuable than human life, and therefore some completely innocent people can be killed in rage over the heinous deed that koorans have been burned.
To summarize
Allah gives these rules called the 10 Commandments in the OT, abrogates them in his last "book" and these rules should still be followed by "Christians" while these abrogated rules are no longer valid for Muslims themselves, yet Muslims whine over the failure of Christians to follow rules, the Muslims are not required to keep. Yeah I see the logic behind this, while a Christian may not murder a Muslim according to the rule "Do not Murder" a Muslim can kill a Christian, because he is not bound by these rules, (slay the enemy of allah...) and this is why we see Boko Haram and others kill Christians. Because of this logic "ABC" will of course not declare these rules worthy to be kept and his demented stoned-gawd gave two conflicting laws, commandments humans should follow.
written by vbv , May 25, 2012
You are talking of the socalled ten commandments - which is mostly the imitation of the laws of Hammurabi ,except the two commandments "thou shalt not worship any other god " and "though shalt not make graven image of the god" ,which are jewish inventions , because the jews then were just nomadic tribes with no talent for building permanent settlements and making any sculpture or artifact which was common among great civilisations of Egypt, Babylonia, Sumeria, Indus Valley, Assyria, Persia, Greece,etc. Like their "jealous god" these nomadic tribals were jealous because of their failure in building any great cities . However they learnt this art through barbaric conquests of civilised people ( similar to the muslims ) and started building settlements , and Jerusalem and Solomon's temple is a consequence of that. There is no originality there with other codes like you should not rob, you not not covet others property , or you should not covet others' wives,etc are as old as human civilisation and was there in all civilisations like India, ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Sumeria, China, etc centuries before the jews made such secular moral codes into an exclusive religious matter.
written by Yibel , May 25, 2012
There was no such thing as a "secular moral code" in ancient times.
Hammurabi claimed his legal code was delivered to him by his god Sha-mash, the common Akkadian name of the sun-god in Babylonia and Assyria. In the design accompanying the Code of Hammurabi, he represents himself in an attitude of adoration before Shamash as the embodiment of the idea of justice.
Several centuries before Hammurabi, Ur-Engur of the Ur dynasty (c. 2600 BC)
declared that he rendered decisions "according to the just laws of Shamash" -- showing that Hammurabi's law existed long before his time.
One tablet from the 24th century BCE reads, "Sargon, the king, to whom Enlil (god of the air) permitted no rival—5,400 warriors ate bread daily before him". Sargon,
throughout his long life, showed special deference to the Sumerian deities,
particularly Inanna, his patroness, and Zababa, the warrior god of Kish. Sargon called himself "The anointed priest of Anu" and "the great ensi of Enlil" and his
daughter, Enheduanna, was installed as priestess to Nannar (the moon god) at the temple in Ur. Sargon also received his legal code from his gods.
All these so-called "great civilizations" that you named were built with SLAVE labor. The Egyptians didn't build anything. SLAVES DID! It was the Israelites (Hebrews)who were making the bricks and BUILDING the cities in Egypt for the Pharaoh.
All the cities and palaces in Sumer were built with the spoils and SLAVES from the conquered lands. As contemporary texts put it, "images of Sargon were erected on the shores of the Mediterranean, in token of his victories, and cities and palaces were built in Sumer with the spoils and SLAVES from the conquered lands."
The Ten Commandmants were not "jewish inventions" as you stated. These are the Laws of Moses as given to the Israelites (Hebrews) after they escaped from slavery in Egypt. They were the first people in recorded history to escape from bondage and declare themselves a free people.
Hammurabi claimed his legal code was delivered to him by his god Sha-mash, the common Akkadian name of the sun-god in Babylonia and Assyria. In the design accompanying the Code of Hammurabi, he represents himself in an attitude of adoration before Shamash as the embodiment of the idea of justice.
Several centuries before Hammurabi, Ur-Engur of the Ur dynasty (c. 2600 BC)
declared that he rendered decisions "according to the just laws of Shamash" -- showing that Hammurabi's law existed long before his time.
One tablet from the 24th century BCE reads, "Sargon, the king, to whom Enlil (god of the air) permitted no rival—5,400 warriors ate bread daily before him". Sargon,
throughout his long life, showed special deference to the Sumerian deities,
particularly Inanna, his patroness, and Zababa, the warrior god of Kish. Sargon called himself "The anointed priest of Anu" and "the great ensi of Enlil" and his
daughter, Enheduanna, was installed as priestess to Nannar (the moon god) at the temple in Ur. Sargon also received his legal code from his gods.
All these so-called "great civilizations" that you named were built with SLAVE labor. The Egyptians didn't build anything. SLAVES DID! It was the Israelites (Hebrews)who were making the bricks and BUILDING the cities in Egypt for the Pharaoh.
All the cities and palaces in Sumer were built with the spoils and SLAVES from the conquered lands. As contemporary texts put it, "images of Sargon were erected on the shores of the Mediterranean, in token of his victories, and cities and palaces were built in Sumer with the spoils and SLAVES from the conquered lands."
The Ten Commandmants were not "jewish inventions" as you stated. These are the Laws of Moses as given to the Israelites (Hebrews) after they escaped from slavery in Egypt. They were the first people in recorded history to escape from bondage and declare themselves a free people.
written by Yibel , May 26, 2012
"...pagan Christian" - Really???
Do you EVER think before you type?
oxum Mros
Do you EVER think before you type?
oxum Mros
written by Abc , May 26, 2012
Yibel!
"Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to religious traditions which are polytheistic or indigenous"
Yeah I use it because modern Christianity is polytheistic.
The old man, his son and the ghost and all that.
"Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to religious traditions which are polytheistic or indigenous"
Yeah I use it because modern Christianity is polytheistic.
The old man, his son and the ghost and all that.
written by lw1 , May 26, 2012
If somebody called me a Hindu or Christian or Sikh or Jew, I would not be offended, but if somebody called me a Muslim, I would be offended because of all the threats and hatred in Quran and Hadith which many Muslims follow, and I would have to tell lies to defend either Quran or Hadith.
The statement by Hindus and Sikhs is the right direction to proceed.
The statement by Hindus and Sikhs is the right direction to proceed.
written by Saif ul-Haq , May 26, 2012
Why the hate? Just submit. You know you want to. Deep down inside you all, all you want is the certainty of truth. I think you doth protest too much. Seriously, guys. Just accept Islam into your hearts. I will pray for you all. Allah ta'la. Allah ta'la.
written by Islamlie , May 26, 2012
You most be joking ? …haha
What is the meaning of '' Al Haq'' … in English?
What is the meaning of '' Al Haq'' … in English?
written by vbv , May 27, 2012
Much of what you say what the Bible contends. Egypt was not built by a bunch of socalled slaves. It was local labour that did it . Moses is a mythical figure of the jews, there is no record in egyptian history that talks of such "escapades". It is just a jewish invention to show that their "god" was a biggwer power than the pharoa. Even supposing Moses did escape from Egypt with his cronies, in the supposed 1300-1400 BCe, constuction and great architecture still continued till the days of Ptolemy. The cities and urban settlements in the Indus Valley in India were not built by the jews , nor were the Sumerians, Babylonians, Minoans, Greece, China, Incas,etc. The biblical mythology is a bunch of concoction starting with the bullshit of Adam and Eve ,or Noah's ark etc. All freat civilisations predates the biblical muck. Creation according to the Bible took place on July ,4004 BCE. That is a joke not even worth laughing at. What about civilisations that precedes that date by centuries, millennia ? What about evolution of humans over 5 to 6 million years with homo habilis, homoerectus, ...to homosapiens. You cannot wish away all these facts for the sake of bolstering biblical myths.
written by vbv , May 27, 2012
You say that 10 commandments were not jewish inventions but were given to Moses on their escape from Egypt. Now one may ask , who "gave" these socalled commandments ? You may say "god " Yahweh . Yahweh , the spook who claims to be a Creator could not program his "creations" into something perfect and in corformity with this socalled moral code , but instead appears as a'fire' in a bush and chisels out these socalled commandments on a slab of stones. How primitive can you be ? This Yahweh had no idea that human will be great inventors that will invent roxckets , space stations, mobile phones , telecommunication satellites, airplanes, automobiles,railways, and so on that can never even be conceived by the authors of the Bible /Quran/any other socalled holybooks like the zend avesta, puranas,etc. This code is secular by nature ,excepting the few that talks of not worshipping any other god, making graven images or taking the name of god in vain. Secular values came accidently not by choice or by the will of god or such nonsense. Infact ascribibng human endeavours and progress and knowledge to any god is the greatest insult to humanity , greatest insult to human intelligence an a step towards backwardness and superstition. The ancient people may have attributed these simple moral codes to some spook of a god for the purpose of enforcing people to comply by literally "putting the fear of 'god' in them". You should not read too much into this thing. God bullshit , religion a trash. That's all.
written by Archpagan , May 27, 2012
I have already submitted to Allah ta'la, who tells me that Islam is false and he never sent any message through a debauch, rapist, bandit, slave-trader, pedophile. Don't sully the holy name of Allah by following a terror manual called koran. Get up from slumber and become free from the evil clutches of koran. There are so many holy books giving excellent moral codes to follow and become an ideal human being.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 27, 2012
Yeah the loser sometimes rewrites history too, and one could argue that the Egyptians were embarrassed that they were hoodwinked into the release of the "Slaves" and erased all traces to that in their writings. We see it today too, Turkey tries very hard to erase the memory that a huge portion of the land was once in Christian hands (Istanbul was once Constantinople!) or that Turk Armenian as well Greeks and others were killed in genocide. So why not hide the less favorable events in the country history?
written by Yibel , May 27, 2012
A pagan is someone who is NOT a Christian. It is a word that means HEATHEN or atheist, or any NON-Christian. Simply put - a pagan is a person who is not a Soldier of Christ. Therefore, using the word pagan to describe a Christian simply doesn't fit.
By your definition, a muslim IS a polytheist and a pagan (Arabs were rustic country dwellers with an idigenous religion) - worshiping a sacred stone and a raping, murdering, thieving, amoral pedophile and his silly book "the recite!" (qur'an really means hell and heaven, BTW) - In addition, those muslims living in Kuwait must also worship his wives (the 11? goddesses). This is polytheism!
Go back to school. Get an education. Maybe then you'll be able to make coherent statements. Meantime, go circle a rock and butt up 5 times a day, you pagan muslim.
By your definition, a muslim IS a polytheist and a pagan (Arabs were rustic country dwellers with an idigenous religion) - worshiping a sacred stone and a raping, murdering, thieving, amoral pedophile and his silly book "the recite!" (qur'an really means hell and heaven, BTW) - In addition, those muslims living in Kuwait must also worship his wives (the 11? goddesses). This is polytheism!
Go back to school. Get an education. Maybe then you'll be able to make coherent statements. Meantime, go circle a rock and butt up 5 times a day, you pagan muslim.
written by Abc , May 27, 2012
Hey if it isn't the son of god!!!
Definition of pagan
1. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) a member of a group professing a polytheistic religion or any religion other than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam
Since the Jews consider the Christians polytheists and the Muslims see you as polytheists too.
So pagan fits.
The sky daddy, his dead son and a ghost. WTF?
Definition of pagan
1. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) a member of a group professing a polytheistic religion or any religion other than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam
Since the Jews consider the Christians polytheists and the Muslims see you as polytheists too.
So pagan fits.
The sky daddy, his dead son and a ghost. WTF?
written by Archpagan , May 27, 2012
All three Abrahamic religions are atheist because they subordinated God to a human Super-GOD called prophet, messenger, apostle, Son etc. Marxists are the pure Monotheists as they believe only in one Supergod. Only polytheism can rid humanity of bigotry and intolerance. Multiculturalism and pluralism must be based on polytheism, otherwise such goals will remain elusive as ever. Try to respect other people's God, other people will respect your God in turn. We Hindus respect a multitude of God/Goddess and do not try to convert others. Is our belief barbaric?
written by Yibel , May 28, 2012
an Abrahamic religion. And neither is Judaism or Christianity. The Bible tells very little of the beliefs or practices of Abraham, and the qur'an gives NO information at all. Christianity is based on the teachings of Yah'shua/Jesus as recorded in the New Testament in which Yah'shua expounded on the testamony of the prophets of the Old Testament. Judaism is based on the teachings of the Old Testament, including the writings of the prophets. Abraham left no writings that we know of; therefore, there are NO Abrahamic religions.
Islam is based on the supposed utterances of a pagan Arab who first tried to base his "new" faith on the old gods of Mesopotamia - Marduk, Nebo/Nabu, Malik, and Rahman. When this went over like a lead balloon, he switched to Christian stories and stuff from the Jewish traditions. This also got him nowhere, so he tried his hand at banditry by robbing caravans and expelling people from their homes. Voila! His new faith was off and running. Attack some more towns, steal some more stuff, get lots of women for sex slaves, and then take over the family business in Makkah -The Ka'aba, Inc. Now the pagan muslims pour in from all over the world to worship just as the pagan Arabs did, And my how the money rolls in!
Islam is intolerant of ALL other beliefs, cultures, and even thoughts. Islam has an INFERIOR (Yes I said it!) an INFERIOR culture based on the criminal religion of Islam. The gawds of Islam - the pedophile sadistic murdering bandit and his evil book deserve no respect. And why would anyone respect a stone?
Islam is based on the supposed utterances of a pagan Arab who first tried to base his "new" faith on the old gods of Mesopotamia - Marduk, Nebo/Nabu, Malik, and Rahman. When this went over like a lead balloon, he switched to Christian stories and stuff from the Jewish traditions. This also got him nowhere, so he tried his hand at banditry by robbing caravans and expelling people from their homes. Voila! His new faith was off and running. Attack some more towns, steal some more stuff, get lots of women for sex slaves, and then take over the family business in Makkah -The Ka'aba, Inc. Now the pagan muslims pour in from all over the world to worship just as the pagan Arabs did, And my how the money rolls in!
Islam is intolerant of ALL other beliefs, cultures, and even thoughts. Islam has an INFERIOR (Yes I said it!) an INFERIOR culture based on the criminal religion of Islam. The gawds of Islam - the pedophile sadistic murdering bandit and his evil book deserve no respect. And why would anyone respect a stone?
written by vbv , May 28, 2012
George Orwell in his book said " all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than the others" . In the same vein one can also say that all religions are bogus but some ( monotheistic muck) are the bigger and evil bogus.. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....!!!!
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good article world wake up to truth help eliminate monoatheist ideology and save humanity.