A letter from a school teacher, describing how Islam is changing and distressing life in the UK.
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As a primary school teacher we are told in the UK to celebrate cultural diversity. We lauded multiculturalism in our society in the recent past and in our schools we put our own cultural traditions on the back burner in order not to offend. Out went nativity plays and in came winter festivals, no making of Easter cards drawing pictures of Easter bunnies, no art classes drawing your friends face, in came halal meat for school dinners without asking all parents. Boys and girls are to sit apart. No changing for PE for girls. No mixed swimming lessons. No admiring of the teachers litter of tiny puppies. No stroking the guide dog, who came in with the blind man who gave the class a talk. No after school activities. Little girls cocooned in nicabs and hijabs, quiet and demure, and as I have discovered with sore welts on their backs for not making prayers correctly. One such little child with welts on her back disclosed to me that her brother 13yrs had also been badly beaten and sent away to relatives in another city so as not to have the acts discovered. He was not in his local secondary school at the time of disclosure.
(Check out www.Islam.net and believe these things are part and parcel of the faith). We have difficulty in undressing these children and finding the injuries, the girls are particularly too well wrapped and we cannot- because of their religion - expose their bodies to see the damage.
In the UK schooling is inclusive. Recently an autistic child in my class tore a New Testament belonging to an Afro Caribbean child who valued it greatly, we appeased him and told him we would replace it... had this been a Koran our problems would have only just begun.
This brand of Islam we are seeing today is a vile culture. I am not sure whether their prophet Mohammed would ever have expected matters to turn out like this since much of what these people perpetrate was never written into the Koran, but conversely much of what was has no place in a modern society. E.G Pigs don’t carry disease and dogs don’t have rabies its all well out of date.
But many of these people from impoverished Arab parts and parts of the Indian subcontinent have moved from the Dark Ages to the 21st Century. The adults failed to master our language - they get no further than being a taxi driver or a waiter in many cases and the women seldom venture out or are able to access any services, they just don’t function in our society, they don’t learn English and cant even go to the doctor on their own. These people deny their children chances.
We have to ask why these people come here...and they want Sharia Law they want to install Islamification in our towns and cities. We gave enough. We must stop extremism, we must stop the beating of children and wives. We must support young people living under stress and in danger because they want their own lives. We should prevent radicalisation of young people which starts with parents and Imams not the Internet - that comes later. We must protect women who are being battered and provide safe places. We should ban Islamic dress, nicabs and hijabs in schools as the French have already done for pupils and staff. No person in public office should dress like this or wear any form of overt religious apparal. School uniform should be enforced for pupils.
The killing of animals by halal slaughter methods for many British indigenous people is abhorrent and it should not be served as a preference to unsuspecting diners in government institutions such as schools and hospitals.
If Muslims want to live in this country they should abide by our laws not us by theirs. I know that there are indeed educated Muslims in our society - they may be doctors, news reporters and lawyers. I'm not sure how they square with the firebrands and illiterates. It seems a very uncompromising religion but then there are shades also within Christianity. My view is that none of it - any religion, has any place in our modern age, we should kick it into history and start to resolve our problems in a educated, reasoned way but there does indeed appear to be a revivalism in Islam that is unhealthy and dangerous and in Britain we do not want it. Unfortunately too much attention also breeds nuts like Fascists as we have seen in Norway recently... sadly I only noted from the young people killed in Norway most of the young people of Arabic descent were trying to be good Norwegians of the future...I didn’t see a hijab among them. I don’t think anyone objects to moderation and that is what we have to encourage.
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written by Dick Nowak , May 22, 2012
Muslims emigrate to EU countries from third world Muslim countries because they do not want to live in third world countries. The reason why Muslim countries are third world is because in Muslim countries most people are Muslims who are obsessed with Islam. It is the religion of economic disaster. It is a religion of many time-wasting rituals and many suffocating rules & prohibitions. As soon as Muslims arrive in their new host country, they do all they can to turn it into a third world Muslim country.
Muslims typically have six or more children and there are thousands of Muslims emigrating to non-Muslim countries every month. So the number of Muslims in every non-Muslim country is rising rapidly. It is a slow motion invasion.
In a Muslim country non-Muslims do not have basic human rights; they face discrimination and they are persecuted. All it takes is one Muslim to claim, without evidence, that a member of a local community of non-Muslims burned a Quran for Muslims to riot in that nearby community. During the riot, the Muslims kill, rape and rob.
Muslims typically have six or more children and there are thousands of Muslims emigrating to non-Muslim countries every month. So the number of Muslims in every non-Muslim country is rising rapidly. It is a slow motion invasion.
In a Muslim country non-Muslims do not have basic human rights; they face discrimination and they are persecuted. All it takes is one Muslim to claim, without evidence, that a member of a local community of non-Muslims burned a Quran for Muslims to riot in that nearby community. During the riot, the Muslims kill, rape and rob.
written by Guy Macher , May 22, 2012
"...sadly I only noted from the young people killed in Norway most of the young people of Arabic descent were trying to be good Norwegians of the future...I didn’t see a hijab among them."
The writer's fails on two points; only one of the kids who were murdered was a Muslim; two, people can be good Muslims or good citizens of civilized countries. Not both.
Muslims are not here to fit in or adopt Western culture. They are here to destroy us and everything we love and value.
The writer's fails on two points; only one of the kids who were murdered was a Muslim; two, people can be good Muslims or good citizens of civilized countries. Not both.
Muslims are not here to fit in or adopt Western culture. They are here to destroy us and everything we love and value.
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , May 22, 2012
alhamdalilaa give me my hot white babes houries.
written by Unbelievable , May 22, 2012
"I am not sure whether their prophet Mohammed would ever have expected matters to turn out like this since much of what these people perpetrate was never written into the Koran"
She is part of the problem. There are too many people excusing Mohammed or saying the extremists have hijacked Islam. No they have not. They are living Islam like Mohammed wanted, while the moderate Muslims are not. She is stuck thinking all religious are benign and the same.
She is part of the problem. There are too many people excusing Mohammed or saying the extremists have hijacked Islam. No they have not. They are living Islam like Mohammed wanted, while the moderate Muslims are not. She is stuck thinking all religious are benign and the same.
written by Unbelievable , May 22, 2012
"The adults failed to master our language - they get no further than being a taxi driver or a waiter in many cases and the women seldom venture out or are able to access any services, they just don’t function in our society, they don’t learn English and cant even go to the doctor on their own"
Many of the religious extremist attacking the West are not the poor uneducated masses. They are middle class and wealthy and educated. If they are not radicals by college, college in Britain is where many get radicalized.
Many of the religious extremist attacking the West are not the poor uneducated masses. They are middle class and wealthy and educated. If they are not radicals by college, college in Britain is where many get radicalized.
written by balam , May 22, 2012
Islam is like cancer.Once it takes root in a body,it spreads and spreads fast and destroys the Immune system.It is not a religion but a regimented political system.It has been around for over 1400 years but survived because it stop the human mind to think but only react with animal emotions.It stops the human mind to grow.It does not tolerate opposing opinions.It turns human being into sub-humans.Take Humanity out of a Human being and you are left with a good Muslim.You might find some exceptions among Muslims whose humanity has not parted from them yet.
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Abused anybody else recently.
You get all that from the bible did you??
You get all that from the bible did you??
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
ABC you know that the Books of the Bible was "revealed" by allah your stoned-gawd? So if you find something in it you dislike take it up with allah. And if allah "discards" the Old and New Testament, because they were corrupted by men, he could also get rid of the kooran, as one can find a lot of garbage in the Kooraan of today which would needs to be tossed out onto the garbage heap of ideas were it belongs, like the notion of a flat earth, which still can be found in the kooraan. A real knowledgeable deity could NOT have revealed the kooraan...
written by abc , May 22, 2012
be quiet appeaser. i didnt hear you speak out when balam was giving vbv abuse for being a low caste, a hindu, with a bit of racism thrown in at the end.
we got silence hyppocrite.
Yet you have a bee in your sad little bonnet because i dish it back to balem.
we got silence hyppocrite.
Yet you have a bee in your sad little bonnet because i dish it back to balem.
written by milad meah , May 22, 2012
I am not sure whether their prophet Mohammed would ever have expected matters to turn out like this.
Dear Miss School Teacher - Muhammad was and is the problem.
Quran 9:29 Kill (Arabic Koran says kill not fight) those who do not believe in Allah
Q 9:111 Muslims kill and are killed to enter paradise.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
THE Holiest book of Islam the Quran has 61% HATE verses against non-Muslims.
Q 5:59-60 Christians & Jews are apes & pigs because they were fishing on Saturday.
This book 'Understanding Muhammad' has 250 pages, JUST SCROLL DOWN after downloading; uploadingit.com/d/nq1qq
Dear Miss School Teacher - Muhammad was and is the problem.
Quran 9:29 Kill (Arabic Koran says kill not fight) those who do not believe in Allah
Q 9:111 Muslims kill and are killed to enter paradise.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
THE Holiest book of Islam the Quran has 61% HATE verses against non-Muslims.
Q 5:59-60 Christians & Jews are apes & pigs because they were fishing on Saturday.
This book 'Understanding Muhammad' has 250 pages, JUST SCROLL DOWN after downloading; uploadingit.com/d/nq1qq
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
Ahm, Will you tell me I do not have MY freedom to respond to issues I deem important?
Personally I do not play this abuse or name-calling game, BUT if people (no matter on which side they stand) feel the need to do so, this is their PERSONAL decision, their freedom.
Yet you may say I single you out, well in your case it is even more serious, you are here promoting the BEST religion, way of life and apple-pie, so if you can NOT raise ABOVE the rest of us Unbelievers, and be a shining example why should one embrace your religion which claims that it will change people? Unless of course name-calling IS part of your religion, and normal behavior, so why do you take to task those of other "religions" who do it also? Back to the point:
I will continue here to expose the foolishness in your religion, and one such foolish claim is that your stoned-gawd allah made the claim to have revealed the Old/New Testament.
And once again I see you side-stepping the issue, can one trust a gawd claiming to have given the truth once and for all not changing his mind if this VERY behavior was claimed by MuahamMAD regarding the Bible because humans corrupted it? Given the fact that so often the same is being said about the kooraan and Islam, that it is being hijacked and such...
Personally I do not play this abuse or name-calling game, BUT if people (no matter on which side they stand) feel the need to do so, this is their PERSONAL decision, their freedom.
Yet you may say I single you out, well in your case it is even more serious, you are here promoting the BEST religion, way of life and apple-pie, so if you can NOT raise ABOVE the rest of us Unbelievers, and be a shining example why should one embrace your religion which claims that it will change people? Unless of course name-calling IS part of your religion, and normal behavior, so why do you take to task those of other "religions" who do it also? Back to the point:
I will continue here to expose the foolishness in your religion, and one such foolish claim is that your stoned-gawd allah made the claim to have revealed the Old/New Testament.
And once again I see you side-stepping the issue, can one trust a gawd claiming to have given the truth once and for all not changing his mind if this VERY behavior was claimed by MuahamMAD regarding the Bible because humans corrupted it? Given the fact that so often the same is being said about the kooraan and Islam, that it is being hijacked and such...
written by rusty , May 22, 2012
Koran 4:28 says: Alllah wishes to lighten your burden, for man was created weak. Islam clerics call this darura, the principal of going along with the laws of the land they are in, until they have enough power to enforce Sharia. Politcians!, read the Koran, Hadith and Sura, and understand our enemy. Only then can they be defeated. We don't have to adapt to Islam's cruel ways and laws. This is our land. Let Muslims adapt to our civilisation or go back to their barbarism in their own country.
written by aaron , May 23, 2012
I am so sick of hearig about these f**king islamic throwbacks, they are nothing but degenerate maggots, raping out societies, destroying youth, and growing up in school, with nice memory's, of easter drawings, learning about animals being kind to them, all you weak ass lefist morons are doing is appeasing them, and breeding, cruelty, hatred and violence...One solution people do not want to hear, but it needs to happen...Want to fix this problem? We need strong leader ship, that will say, No enough is enough, Ban islam, ban the teachins, and band the f**kin immigration of them, Deport them all at gun point, round them up and deport them, if they riot, shoot them, lock them up....sound extreme? Well, look what they are doing to uk and eu now, and they are not even in power...If you do not do what i said, your Uk will be a 3rd world poverty stricken hell hole, were animals are tortured, women and children abused, and every one will be killed, if they take power..dont believe me? look what they do in places, that they control....rape,death,violence, submission, oppression and cruelty...oh and poverty, oh and ignorance, retardation and illiteracy...one solution, eradicate islam....
written by Rationalist , May 23, 2012
abc,
I saw your comments. None of them is addressing the topic. It is about Islam's impact on life in Britain. Why do Muslims fail to integrate in any society? Whether it is Britain or Australia or USA, they create chaos everywhere.
I saw your comments. None of them is addressing the topic. It is about Islam's impact on life in Britain. Why do Muslims fail to integrate in any society? Whether it is Britain or Australia or USA, they create chaos everywhere.
written by curmudgeon , May 23, 2012
congratulations, schoolteacher. as the final vestiges of your civilization are being destroyed, you have noticed that the barbarians are not behaving according to your society's norms. so you want the barbarians to learn english, so they can tell you "this way to the showers" in correct english, as they herd the last of your kind to the gas chambers. at what point will you realize that you dont need to educate the barbarians, you must evict them, or die? when you smell the gas, it is too late.
written by jack diamond , May 23, 2012
"I know that there are indeed educated Muslims in our society - they may be doctors, news reporters and lawyers. I'm not sure how they square with the firebrands and illiterates." This may help answer that question. Not to mention Dr. Zawahiri and all the other prominent jihadists from the medical profession. Not to mention the overwhelming majority come from the middle class, upper middle class and from among the wealthy and highly-educated. What they all have in common is an orthodox understanding of Islam and Muhammad.
"Police Officers in London, UK, carried out on Friday, 06/29/2007, a controlled explosion in a silver Mercedes car in, what they described as, a "potentially viable explosive device". The event happened after reports of a suspicious vehicle parked in Haymarket, close to Piccadilly Circus, shortly before 02:00 local time. The car was loaded with gas canisters and a device, consisting of 200 liters of fuel and nails.
A second similar blue Mercedes car device, with the same components, was found at about 14:30, local time, after the car was given a parking ticket in Cockspur Street and towed to Park Lane. The car drew the attention of the local parking inspector who noticed a strong smell of petrol coming from it.
The next day, Saturday 06/30/2007, at about 15:15 local time, a third car, a Cherokee Jeep on fire was driven at speed towards the Glasgow Airport main terminal building. Two men: Dr. Bilal Abdullah from Iraq and Dr. Kafeel Ahmed from India, who was reported to be badly burned, had been in the car and were arrested by Strathclyde Police. On 07/06/2007 Dr. Bilal Abdullah was the first to be charged over the failed bombings while Dr. Kafeel Ahmed died from his burns in the hospital on 08/02/2007.
After a short investigation the two suspects were identified as the same men who parked the day before the two car bombs in London. Dr. Bilal Abdullah and Dr. Kafeel Ahmed who worked as a locum doctor at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, in Paisley, just two miles from the airport building attacked on Saturday and where he found himself, ironically, in medical treatment and.
Two other suspects were arrested on 06/30/2007, at night, after a surveillance operation, on the M6 highway in Cheshire. The detainees were identified as a young Medical Doctor, age 26, Mohammed Asha, from Jordan and his 27-year-old wife Marwah Dana Asha. She was released, unconditionally, on 07/12/2007 without any charges. Dr Mohammed Asha has been charged on 07/19/2007 with conspiracy to cause explosions for his role in whar became known - the Doctors plot. "
"Police Officers in London, UK, carried out on Friday, 06/29/2007, a controlled explosion in a silver Mercedes car in, what they described as, a "potentially viable explosive device". The event happened after reports of a suspicious vehicle parked in Haymarket, close to Piccadilly Circus, shortly before 02:00 local time. The car was loaded with gas canisters and a device, consisting of 200 liters of fuel and nails.
A second similar blue Mercedes car device, with the same components, was found at about 14:30, local time, after the car was given a parking ticket in Cockspur Street and towed to Park Lane. The car drew the attention of the local parking inspector who noticed a strong smell of petrol coming from it.
The next day, Saturday 06/30/2007, at about 15:15 local time, a third car, a Cherokee Jeep on fire was driven at speed towards the Glasgow Airport main terminal building. Two men: Dr. Bilal Abdullah from Iraq and Dr. Kafeel Ahmed from India, who was reported to be badly burned, had been in the car and were arrested by Strathclyde Police. On 07/06/2007 Dr. Bilal Abdullah was the first to be charged over the failed bombings while Dr. Kafeel Ahmed died from his burns in the hospital on 08/02/2007.
After a short investigation the two suspects were identified as the same men who parked the day before the two car bombs in London. Dr. Bilal Abdullah and Dr. Kafeel Ahmed who worked as a locum doctor at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, in Paisley, just two miles from the airport building attacked on Saturday and where he found himself, ironically, in medical treatment and.
Two other suspects were arrested on 06/30/2007, at night, after a surveillance operation, on the M6 highway in Cheshire. The detainees were identified as a young Medical Doctor, age 26, Mohammed Asha, from Jordan and his 27-year-old wife Marwah Dana Asha. She was released, unconditionally, on 07/12/2007 without any charges. Dr Mohammed Asha has been charged on 07/19/2007 with conspiracy to cause explosions for his role in whar became known - the Doctors plot. "
written by abc , May 23, 2012
I saw your comments too.
My comments were valid to the topic of conversation.
Unfortunately there was very little substance in yours.
Opinion followed by non fact followed by bigotry.
Good job!
My comments were valid to the topic of conversation.
Unfortunately there was very little substance in yours.
Opinion followed by non fact followed by bigotry.
Good job!
written by dead or alive , May 23, 2012
The ghettos of their own kind.Its time to flee the ghetto of Islam and smell the roses,...Muslims.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 23, 2012
Well over the years I have come to see the change in Vienna/Austria in the 1960's we started to call in workers from Yugoslavia but also from Turkey. While the vast majority of people from Yugoslavia were Non-Muslims the trouble we get is from Turkish Muslims. I knew a Construction-worker who was a Muslim and his Mother came to visit him in 1975, she had Make-Up and did not wear a Headscarf. Many years later in 2001 just by chance I run into him and his family, each of his female members were wearing a Headscarf, including a grandchild! I asked about it, and he said that he was a bad Muslim why back in 1970. Even though he had used his break from work for his prayers. So he explained that today he is desperate to please his allah, because he does not want his whole family wind up in hell, because he was a lousy Muslim. This person was so full of guilt of his past behavior, and asked me to convert to Islam, because whenever he meets people from the past, he'd "invite" them to Islam. After I graciously declined, he did not call anymore. Also we have Kindergartens here in which Pork may not be served, just BECAUSE some Muslims-Kids could be there! Food sold on the street is catering to the Muslims demands even though the seller can barely make it, and most are Muslims now anyway.
I could go on and on why I see Muslims live in a parallel world, women even under the Burka, especially while Muslims Spokespersons insists that the "Burka" is Un-Islamic....
Ah and one of the occurrences that got me started as a critic of Islam, in a public bus a 13 year old Muslim boy beat up a 16 year old mother because she was not giving up her seat to him, even though she had a child on her lap. He insisted that she as Non-Muslim must give up her seat, and she is a whore anyway, because she is not clothed like a Muslim...
No thanks, I need Islam like AIDS or Herpes!
I could go on and on why I see Muslims live in a parallel world, women even under the Burka, especially while Muslims Spokespersons insists that the "Burka" is Un-Islamic....
Ah and one of the occurrences that got me started as a critic of Islam, in a public bus a 13 year old Muslim boy beat up a 16 year old mother because she was not giving up her seat to him, even though she had a child on her lap. He insisted that she as Non-Muslim must give up her seat, and she is a whore anyway, because she is not clothed like a Muslim...
No thanks, I need Islam like AIDS or Herpes!
written by StupidISLAM , May 24, 2012
Islam is stupid religious and make a lot of problem to human. This stupid religious create by Muhammad terrorist. Western on danger ! If their politician still sleeping one day Islam will conquer them. Stop Muslim population and force them convert to christianity or force them back their origin place
written by finelivng56 , May 24, 2012
'' convert Muslims to Christianity ''
There is NO way a devout Muslim will convert to Christianity even with force … they rather die first … we all know how Muslims are so infatuated with death .. it is to way to go and plunge head first in between the bosomy Virgins … of course.
Some Muslims ,I know, rather loose Muslims to Atheism then to the dreaded Christianity or Judaism … apposite what Quran says [ in some parts .. other parts the Quran orders to kill them ] … all because the inherited hate they have for them sense Muhammad time …
A Muslim man, have said in front of me … when he heard a relative, a women who live in the US ..who married a Christian and converted … He said "" she should be shut in the head "' …
the same guy who said that , he knows of My leaving Islam and not covert to any religions , he accepted that fact and does not mention it again …
There is NO way a devout Muslim will convert to Christianity even with force … they rather die first … we all know how Muslims are so infatuated with death .. it is to way to go and plunge head first in between the bosomy Virgins … of course.
Some Muslims ,I know, rather loose Muslims to Atheism then to the dreaded Christianity or Judaism … apposite what Quran says [ in some parts .. other parts the Quran orders to kill them ] … all because the inherited hate they have for them sense Muhammad time …
A Muslim man, have said in front of me … when he heard a relative, a women who live in the US ..who married a Christian and converted … He said "" she should be shut in the head "' …
the same guy who said that , he knows of My leaving Islam and not covert to any religions , he accepted that fact and does not mention it again …
written by Rationalist , May 24, 2012
You didn't answer why Muslims don't integrate in any society? Any idea????
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
Right after you answer the from my first post to you!
"The number of Muslims involved in such crimes increases every year"
Prove it since you said it!!!
"The number of Muslims involved in such crimes increases every year"
Prove it since you said it!!!
written by Rationalist , May 25, 2012
9/11, London bombing, Madrid bombing, Beslan massacre, Russian bombing, Kashmir riots, middle east revolts n chaos...the list goes endless.....perhaps u may mean to say Muslims committed more atrocities in the past compared to their 21st century fiasco!
written by abc , May 25, 2012
"abc
written by Rationalist , May 23, 2012
Isn't it unfortunate these criminals have Islamic background? The number of Muslims involved in such crimes increases every year. I believe all these crimes are instigated by Islamic scriptures."
You posted this on the grooming story comments section.
In it you state that the number of grooming cases involving Muslims increases year on year!
I asked you to show me the evidence? Not blather on about something else.
You wrote so show it! All of this after you made a song and dance about being rational!!!
written by Rationalist , May 23, 2012
Isn't it unfortunate these criminals have Islamic background? The number of Muslims involved in such crimes increases every year. I believe all these crimes are instigated by Islamic scriptures."
You posted this on the grooming story comments section.
In it you state that the number of grooming cases involving Muslims increases year on year!
I asked you to show me the evidence? Not blather on about something else.
You wrote so show it! All of this after you made a song and dance about being rational!!!
written by Rationalist , May 26, 2012
It is pertaining to pedophilic or rape instances involving Muslims. Isn't it increasing in Europe? Not surprising coz Muhammad married 6 yr old Aisha! There is plenty of evidence of halal rape in Quran!! Right hand possession: does it sound familiar to u, Mr. Varanasi?
written by Abc , May 26, 2012
Your above post does not cut it as evidence!
If you cannot provide any then why would you hold a view??
If you cannot provide any then why would you hold a view??
written by Abc , May 26, 2012
I must admit I had to look up the Varanasi!
I had no idea what it meant! After reading a few articles, it's an amazing place!
A proper melting pot of humanity.
I had no idea what it meant! After reading a few articles, it's an amazing place!
A proper melting pot of humanity.
written by Canadian teacher , May 26, 2012
I teach grade 4 (9-10 yrs old) and I believe education is part of the solution to successful integration. I'm fortunate to teach in a suburb where there is a good mix in ethnic / religious backgrounds but with a dominantly «native» core with deeply rooted canadian values.
That being said, I do my part fighting the good fight by repeating incessantly how lucky we are for having a society where freedom, equality and fraternity (in the broader sense) are more than words. I also have no qualms about discussing religion in classroom (I'm in a public system) and stating obvious things such as the fact that no one can presume his or her belief supersedes that of others and by referring to countries where people have limited rights due to beliefs entrenched in the political system . I often end discussions by mentioning that, for those who believe in God, that if indeed He created us with intelligence, it should be used in all matter (and leave opinions to those without facts or lack of judgement).
I'd like to finish with 2 recent first hand religion (or lack of common sense) related experiences in my classroom .
1) Sadly, a girl was prevented from going to a field trip to a summer camp (think canoe, forest treks, mosquitoes, canadian stuff). When I contacted the mom, she candidly told me she was afraid that the «prostitutes would come out of the woods to taunt the children». After reassuring her these things only happen in horror movies, her girl joined the group...
2) At an award giving ceremony in from of all other children, a 9 year old girl covered her hand with a sleeve before shaking the principal's hand ... she also admitted her family was Hezbollah ... good luck on a job interview !
Anyways, fighting for and defending the Western heritage and values is not something we should think twice about doing (yes, even if that means getting dirty) for the sake of Humanity. Enough with the über political correctedness : it's time we take action and fight barbaric sectarianism. Not doing so now could have dire consequences on our children's future and beyond.
That being said, I do my part fighting the good fight by repeating incessantly how lucky we are for having a society where freedom, equality and fraternity (in the broader sense) are more than words. I also have no qualms about discussing religion in classroom (I'm in a public system) and stating obvious things such as the fact that no one can presume his or her belief supersedes that of others and by referring to countries where people have limited rights due to beliefs entrenched in the political system . I often end discussions by mentioning that, for those who believe in God, that if indeed He created us with intelligence, it should be used in all matter (and leave opinions to those without facts or lack of judgement).
I'd like to finish with 2 recent first hand religion (or lack of common sense) related experiences in my classroom .
1) Sadly, a girl was prevented from going to a field trip to a summer camp (think canoe, forest treks, mosquitoes, canadian stuff). When I contacted the mom, she candidly told me she was afraid that the «prostitutes would come out of the woods to taunt the children». After reassuring her these things only happen in horror movies, her girl joined the group...
2) At an award giving ceremony in from of all other children, a 9 year old girl covered her hand with a sleeve before shaking the principal's hand ... she also admitted her family was Hezbollah ... good luck on a job interview !
Anyways, fighting for and defending the Western heritage and values is not something we should think twice about doing (yes, even if that means getting dirty) for the sake of Humanity. Enough with the über political correctedness : it's time we take action and fight barbaric sectarianism. Not doing so now could have dire consequences on our children's future and beyond.
written by Rationalist , May 26, 2012
You see it every now n then. In Britain the gang of rapists were all Asian Muslims, mainly from Pakistan. Muslims created riots in France. Yesterday, a church was set on fire in Kashmir by Muslims. Were the rioters in Syria non-Muslims? Don't be foolish by asking more evidence. It is in the deeds of Muhammad, his followers, and of course in Islamic scriptures
written by Saif Ul-Islam , May 26, 2012
Yes, its true. But only because the Jewish world conspiracy manouvres us into piositions where its media can narrate our actions into an existing narrative. No matter what we do we will always be the bad guys because the "good" guys (the Jews) control the media and whoever controls the media does the "democratic" populaces thinking FOR IT. That is why it is imperative that we Muslims destory the vile cancer of jewishness and its supporters from the face of the world. Only then will the chains that bind islam be loosened and the lies propagated here and elsewhere be revealed for what they are. So what if Muhammad (SAW) married Umm Aisha at 6? Ghandi drank his own piss and slept with girls. Churchill was an alcoholic bi-sexual. In the end there are more of US than there is of YOU. and we will WIN. Inshallah.
written by vbv , May 26, 2012
Muslims flee to western democracies to escape the misery and persecution in their own countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, etc only to bring the same misery to their country of adoption. It is like death-wish. Because freedom , democracy and creative thinking is alien to islam which is dogma-ridden and suppresses natural human curiousity and spirit of enquiry . The best solution will be to deport these disgruntled elements back to their countries of origin to wallow in their filthy ,backward conditions that they crave so desperately. And also discourage imigration from such countries in future. That is the only solution to this evil malaise.
written by Abc , May 27, 2012
Are you serious??
"abc
written by Rationalist , May 26, 2012
You see it every now n then. In Britain the gang of rapists were all Asian Muslims, mainly from Pakistan. Muslims created riots in France. Yesterday, a church was set on fire in Kashmir by Muslims. Were the rioters in Syria non-Muslims? Don't be foolish by asking more evidence. It is in the deeds of Muhammad, his followers, and of course in Islamic scriptures"
seriously if this is the best you can do the irrationalist should be your moniker!
"abc
written by Rationalist , May 26, 2012
You see it every now n then. In Britain the gang of rapists were all Asian Muslims, mainly from Pakistan. Muslims created riots in France. Yesterday, a church was set on fire in Kashmir by Muslims. Were the rioters in Syria non-Muslims? Don't be foolish by asking more evidence. It is in the deeds of Muhammad, his followers, and of course in Islamic scriptures"
seriously if this is the best you can do the irrationalist should be your moniker!
written by Abc , May 27, 2012
3 babies abandoned in a shed in Portland USA.
Man gets shot eating another mans face in Miami.
Drug dealing mom killed in new Hampshire.
All non Muslim. Surely the behave this way because they are Christian and the bible influenced them.....
Now do you see how stupid your argument is?????
Rationalist, really??????
Man gets shot eating another mans face in Miami.
Drug dealing mom killed in new Hampshire.
All non Muslim. Surely the behave this way because they are Christian and the bible influenced them.....
Now do you see how stupid your argument is?????
Rationalist, really??????
written by Rationalist , May 27, 2012
Only difference is that all stupid acts of Muslims are backed by Quran n other scriptures. In non-Muslim countries there is punishment for pedophilia. However, it is practicable in Islamic countries coz Mo did it!!! It is permissible for Muslims to take kaffir property by force n then sleep with their women coz Mo did it in his prime days. In non-Muslim countries offenders will be jailed. Sounds Rationalistic??
written by Yibel , May 28, 2012
They behaved as they did because they are NOT Christian and they are not following the Bible..... But, for followers of islam, it all comes down to knowing what moohamMAD and then following his example. So what would moohamMAD DO?
Have sex with a 9-year-old girl? YES Hadith
Have people beheaded? YES Qur'an
Own slaves? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Marry his daughter-in-law? YES Qur'an
Approve of prostitution? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Recommend wife-beating? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill prisoners of war? YES Hadith
Advocate suicide attacks? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill apostates? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Tell sick persons to heal themselves by drinking camel urine? YES Hadith
Have boys as young as 13-years-old beheaded? YES Hadith
Have eleven wives? (at one time) YES Hadith
Lie, and tell others to lie for him? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Enslave women and children? YES Hadith & Ibn Ishaq
Torture a man out of greed? YES Ibn Ishaq
Steal? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Have someone killed for insulting him? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Extort money? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Keep women as sex slaves? YES Qur'an
Force conversions to Islam? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Commit acts of terror? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill a woman? YES Biographers
Capture a woman and rape her? YES Hadith
Encourage the rape of women in front of their husbands? YES Hadith (Abu Dawud: 2150)
Consider men and women equal partners? NO Qur'an & Hadith
Befriend Christians and Jews? NO Qur'an
Preach love for people of all religions? HELL NO Qur'an & Hadith
Oh, and don't forget that according to the qur'an authored by moohamMAD himself- he is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow! (Qur'an 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Qur'an 68:4).
Have sex with a 9-year-old girl? YES Hadith
Have people beheaded? YES Qur'an
Own slaves? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Marry his daughter-in-law? YES Qur'an
Approve of prostitution? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Recommend wife-beating? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill prisoners of war? YES Hadith
Advocate suicide attacks? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill apostates? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Tell sick persons to heal themselves by drinking camel urine? YES Hadith
Have boys as young as 13-years-old beheaded? YES Hadith
Have eleven wives? (at one time) YES Hadith
Lie, and tell others to lie for him? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Enslave women and children? YES Hadith & Ibn Ishaq
Torture a man out of greed? YES Ibn Ishaq
Steal? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Have someone killed for insulting him? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Extort money? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Keep women as sex slaves? YES Qur'an
Force conversions to Islam? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Commit acts of terror? YES Qur'an & Hadith
Kill a woman? YES Biographers
Capture a woman and rape her? YES Hadith
Encourage the rape of women in front of their husbands? YES Hadith (Abu Dawud: 2150)
Consider men and women equal partners? NO Qur'an & Hadith
Befriend Christians and Jews? NO Qur'an
Preach love for people of all religions? HELL NO Qur'an & Hadith
Oh, and don't forget that according to the qur'an authored by moohamMAD himself- he is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow! (Qur'an 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Qur'an 68:4).
written by Rationalist , May 28, 2012
You summed it up really well.....thanks...It is time for abc to see the ugliness of Islam n come out of it.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 28, 2012
Saif Ul-Islam , May 27, 2012
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Ghandi drank his own piss and slept with girls. Churchill was an alcoholic bi-sexual.
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None of these people claimed to speak for a gawd and bring the last message. So yes therefore one can hold MuahamMAD to a higher level of example. If he does not rise above the rest of us,and by golly I've meet people who have higher morals than your lice-ridden profeet.
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In the end there are more of US than there is of YOU. and we will WIN. Inshallah.
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Does this INCLUDE the radical elements in your ISLAM, you know the ones who "hijack" your ah so peaceful religion?
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Ghandi drank his own piss and slept with girls. Churchill was an alcoholic bi-sexual.
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None of these people claimed to speak for a gawd and bring the last message. So yes therefore one can hold MuahamMAD to a higher level of example. If he does not rise above the rest of us,and by golly I've meet people who have higher morals than your lice-ridden profeet.
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In the end there are more of US than there is of YOU. and we will WIN. Inshallah.
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Does this INCLUDE the radical elements in your ISLAM, you know the ones who "hijack" your ah so peaceful religion?
written by abc , May 28, 2012
".It is time for abc to see the ugliness of Islam n come out of it."
When hell freezes over!
When hell freezes over!
written by Christina , May 28, 2012
I believe in democracy kind of governance where one is free to practice one's own religion without having being force as though a knife at your throat. I also believe religion must not be a show case kind of outward appearance where men are good at pretending to show how pious he can be. Religion is a personal matter between you and your God. It cannot be force upon by any human being upon this Globe. If it does, then it is not a religion anymore but an ideology created by men.
written by fineliving56 , May 29, 2012
For hell to freeze over, hell … has to exist,first !!!
I know it was said, to convey impossibility … but when are we ever going to base the way we talk on terms, we learned now and we still learning ? … not what our ancestor learned wrongly …
We all use words every day, we know it is wrong based on wrong outdated science … but we still say them … we do not change the way talk .
For example … we still say '' sunrise '' … of course the sun does not rise from any where … … the same for '' sunset or sundown ''
they are inaccurate terms … but we still use them .
Hell and heaven are only an invention based on combination of fear and rich imagination … Humans learned the distructin and benefits, Fire can do be , and they discovered using Fire as a tool to keep people on the right track as they see it … it is good way to keep the gullible masses stay gullible masses … it worked for long time … when we ever going to see that it is not true as described …
Hell is impossible to exist … when is humanity ever going to graduate to rational thinking and use rationale words to match it .
I know it was said, to convey impossibility … but when are we ever going to base the way we talk on terms, we learned now and we still learning ? … not what our ancestor learned wrongly …
We all use words every day, we know it is wrong based on wrong outdated science … but we still say them … we do not change the way talk .
For example … we still say '' sunrise '' … of course the sun does not rise from any where … … the same for '' sunset or sundown ''
they are inaccurate terms … but we still use them .
Hell and heaven are only an invention based on combination of fear and rich imagination … Humans learned the distructin and benefits, Fire can do be , and they discovered using Fire as a tool to keep people on the right track as they see it … it is good way to keep the gullible masses stay gullible masses … it worked for long time … when we ever going to see that it is not true as described …
Hell is impossible to exist … when is humanity ever going to graduate to rational thinking and use rationale words to match it .
written by fineliving56 , May 29, 2012
But you actually do believe in Hell as Quran tells you and all Muslims … and that what I was referring to .. I just used your saying, to point that out …You did not get that ? …
Thank you for your concern for my health … May be I should be as gracious as you … and ask you have you taken your daily bill to fix your logic problems ?
Thank you for your concern for my health … May be I should be as gracious as you … and ask you have you taken your daily bill to fix your logic problems ?
written by fineliving56 , May 29, 2012
Of course ...I meant to say … pill not bill
That is … '' daily pill to fix logic problems ''
That is … '' daily pill to fix logic problems ''
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 29, 2012
Quote from ABC:
Rationalist
written by abc , May 28, 2012
".It is time for abc to see the ugliness of Islam n come out of it."
When hell freezes over!
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So ABC sees the ugliness in Islam and ignores it, like all the terror committed by his "brothers of faith"?
Or is he so blind that he can NOT SEE it and therefore can't leave such a foolish religion. Just wonder which scenario is worse.....
And yes HELL is the eternal place for unbelievers, so ABC counts on "paradise".....
@ fineliving56 unfortunately the kaffirs have not yet found a pill to cure adherence to a foolish religion like ISLAM...maybe one day...
Rationalist
written by abc , May 28, 2012
".It is time for abc to see the ugliness of Islam n come out of it."
When hell freezes over!
Quote End]
So ABC sees the ugliness in Islam and ignores it, like all the terror committed by his "brothers of faith"?
Or is he so blind that he can NOT SEE it and therefore can't leave such a foolish religion. Just wonder which scenario is worse.....
And yes HELL is the eternal place for unbelievers, so ABC counts on "paradise".....
@ fineliving56 unfortunately the kaffirs have not yet found a pill to cure adherence to a foolish religion like ISLAM...maybe one day...
written by Rationalist , May 29, 2012
I studied psychology as a one of my subjects during my college days. A psychologically strong person would refute arguments systematically. I find that abc is totally cornered especially after reading Yibel's comments. A staunch believer in any religion will refute arguments. abc understands the ugly truth about Islam. However, he consoles his mind by indulging in personal attacks.
Guess what, abc is going to throw tantrums on me.
Guess what, abc is going to throw tantrums on me.
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