Some people may think that Jesus would have preached 'peace and love' in Palestine, had he been alive today, as he did to the Jews 2,000 years ago. But could he? Well, had he tried, his body might be found torn into pieces and thrown on the streets of Gaza (not by Jews, but Muslims)...
On Christmas Eve, Newsweek’s Christopher Dickey in his article “What would Jesus do in Gaza?” reflected on what Jesus, the messiah of ‘peace and love’, would have done in the Holy Land, his birthplace, today. He wrote:
The narrow confines of Gaza, Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria are places where God's love was long ago supplanted by war for land and ill will among men. It has been a year now since the bloody and fruitless Israeli effort to crush Hamas in what amounts to a massive prison for a million people. Peacemakers in the Middle East are rarely blessed, and often reviled; just ask special envoy George Mitchell. And the truth rarely sets anyone free, as proved most recently by the fact-filled United Nations report by South African Judge Richard Goldstone, which was dissed by Washington and dismissed by Israel.
The crux of Dickey’s article is: President Obama, the rhetorical ‘messiah of peace’ in today’s world, is unwilling, or is handicapped by anti-peace Israel, so as to bring peace in the Middle East.
How else could the Obama administration spurn Goldstone’s “fact-filled” report?
Dickey would be highly credulous or naïve in believing that the Goldstone report, based solely on interviews of members of Hamas, designated as a terrorist organization by the U.N. and Western nations, would be “fact-filled”.
Dickey is bitter that Obama—taking a cue from what Jesus would have done in Gaza today, namely enforcing peace—is not bending the hands of Israel, the sole spoiler of peace in the Middle East, into agreeing to a peace plan.
Without going into intricacies of the intractable Arab-Israeli conflict, I will discuss what Jesus, had he been alive, could, not would, have done in Gaza today.
Could Jesus preach what he preached—namely peace and love, according to Christopher Dickey—2,000 years ago?
Jesus is portrayed, today, to have preached only ‘peace and love’ in Palestine and nothing else. In reality, he also preached a new religion or at least a radical reformation of Judaism. While part of his preaching bore extraordinary messages of ‘peace and love’ (although not new; all borrowed from the teachings of classical Greek philosophers, particularly Socrates), that was not the whole story.
When Jesus’ preaching or new faith was not readily embraced by the Jews or Jewish establishments, he quickly ran into abusive outbursts. His most explicit anti-Jewish tirade was his famous ‘Seven Woes’, the entire Chapter 23 of Mathew’s Gospel (also see Luk 11:39–52), in which he railed against the piety and customs of the Pharisees, the dominant Jewish community in Palestine.
Jesus accused them of hypocrisy, ridiculed their customs and attire, and railed against calling the Rabbi “Teacher”, demanding that he himself (i.e., Christ) be called the “Teacher” alone [Mat 23:1–12]. Then, he unleashed abusive and aggressive outburst against the Jews: ‘‘Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!’’, ‘‘Woe to you, blind guides!’’ and ‘‘You snakes! You brood of vipers!’’; he called them ‘‘son of hell’’, ‘‘blind fools’’, ‘greedy and self-indulgent’ and ‘‘wicked’’; he condemned them for their honest remorse for their forefathers’ murder of the prophets of old; and he made a series of audacious and crude accusations against them, including of killing and crucifying ‘the prophets and wise men’ sent by the Lord and flogging them in their synagogues [Mat 23:13–36].
Elsewhere, he condemned an assembled crowd of Jews as ‘a wicked generation’ [Luk 11:29], ‘A wicked and adulterous generation’ [Mat 12:39].
The worst of Jesus anti-Semitic outburst was his calling a group of Jews ‘Children of the Devil’, when they rejected his exhortation that only by believing in him, ‘[you] will know the truth, and the truth will set you free’ [John 8:31–45].
Jesus’ reducing the Jews to ‘devil’, the enemy par excellence of God, became the main springboard of Christian anti-Semitism that runs well into our time, causing tremendous sufferings to them, unknown to any people in history.
Let us now make an assessment of what Jesus could do in Palestine had he lived today.
Could he preach his creed or a radical reformation of Islam to Muslims in Palestine today in the way he did to the Jews 2,000 years ago?
Quite unlikely!
One may say that the world has become much more civilized today, that we live in a civilized world, in which Jesus’ preaching would be tolerated more.
This assumption might be true for many places in the world, but not for Palestine and the wider Islamic world.
Preaching to Muslims, although not vice-versa, is a capital crime—if not by law, then by ‘mob justice’—almost anywhere in the Islamic world today. And in Palestine, where Jesus allegedly tried to sow the seed of ‘true peace’, if he tried the same today, i.e. preach Christianity or another faith to Muslims or radical reformation of Islam, he would’ve met a violent end.
Even the most humble approach of Jesus’ preaching in these countries would’ve brought him violence, possibly even death, while the aggressive and abusive style of his preaching, as he did to the Jews, would’ve earned him instant death, thanks to ‘mob justice’, widely prevalent in Islamic countries.
Christopher Dickey, out of his naivety or ignorance, might think that, given a chance, today Jesus would be happily preaching ‘peace and love’ (like he did in his lifetime) to the Muslims and Jews of Palestine, and the latter would be warmly embracing the ‘messiah of peace’.
Dickey has no idea that had Jesus tried it today to the Muslims of Palestine, what a horrible fate would engulf him, much worse than how the Jews dealt with him 2,000 years ago!
One may point to the violent way Jesus was dealt with by the Jews. Well, let us first recognize that we are dealing with two vastly different times. Secondly, Jesus preached his messages, rather freely, for three years, which the Jews tolerated. Indeed, Jews’ reactions to Jesus’ messages, or their encounters with him throughout, as become evident from the New Testament (NT), remained highly civil, even more civilized than the language or provocations of Jesus.
And only when Jesus’ annoyance reached an intolerable level that the Jews took firm actions.
And what did they do?
They arrested him, and dealt somewhat roughly Jesus showed an arrogant behavior, and handed him to the Roman authority, then in power.
The story has been much distorted in the NT, in an attempt to put all blame on the Jews, while trying to turn Pontius Pilate (Roman governor of Palestine), who handled Jesus’ case, into a saint. The fact remains that it is the Romans, who ordered Jesus’ crucifixion. One should take into consideration that, contrary to saintly depiction of Pilate in the NT, contemporary historical writings show him as ruthlessly cruel, to the extent that the Roman Emperor recalled him and had him executed.
In sum, the Jews found Jesus a troublemaker, and quite so given desire to take over the authority and some of his outbursts discussed above, and dealt with him as per the rule of law.
Now, turning to the issue of peace-making in the Middle East, it is a problem with unrealistic and over-enthusiastic peace-makers like Christopher Dickey that they have little understanding of the reality of the Middle East crisis (discussion above proves it).
While Jesus might’ve liked to preach “peace and love” there, like he did 2,000 years ago, but Dickey has no idea of the consequence Jesus would suffer for it.
And, there lies the intractable difficulty of solving the Middle East crisis.
To grasp what Jesus truly could, not what he would have loved to, do in Gaza today, he/she may take a look at how the followers of Jesus are living in Gaza and the wider Islamic world.
Despite being the humblest of peoples, Christians suffer persecutions and live in constant fear in most parts of the Islamic world. Christians from Pakistan to Indonesia had to celebrate the just-concluded Christmas amidst heightened fear of attacks by Muslim mobs and heightened security-measures, keeping their festivity low-key. Even then, a congregation of Christians, assembled for Christmas prayers, came under attack in Pakistan that injured 60 devotees; hundreds of Muslims started celebration of the Islamic New Year in Indonesia’s Java by attacking a church and setting it on fire; while another church near Jakarta was attacked by a thousands-strong Muslim-mob that included women and children.
In Holy Land itself, the Christian population in Jesus’ birthplace Bethlehem in Muslim-controlled Palestine has dwindled from 80% at the birth of Israel to only 20% today, although Nazareth in Israel, where Jesus grew up in childhood, has maintained its Christian character over the same period.
Israeli oppression has been widely condemned for causing the decline of Christian population in the Holy Land, but it is Muslims, who force Christians to leave, causing a silent and slow ethnic-cleansing of Christians there.
Many Christians had to leave Gaza after Hamas captured power there in 2006. Christians faces intimidation and pressure of Islamization. In Gaza, Christian girls are under pressured to wear veil; in 2007, the owner of Gaza’s only Christian bookstore was abducted and murdered; Christian shops and schools have been firebombed; in 2006, the Hamas government also sought to reinstate the humiliating jizya, a subjugation tax, extracted from non-Muslims in ideal Islam states.
Yussuf Khoury, 23, like many other Christians, fled Gaza after Hamas captured power, and took refuge in Palestinian Authority (PA)-ruled Bethlehem in West Bank. Even in Bethlehem, said Khoury: “Muslims often stand in front of the gate of the Bible College and read from the Quran to intimidate Christian students. Other Muslims like to roll out their prayer rugs right in Manger Square.”
Manger Square is the front-yard of the Church of Nativity at Jesus’ birthplace, probably the oldest church extant. In the 19th century, Muslims raised a mosque, the Mosque of Umar, fitted with a towering minaret, next to the church to overshadow Bethlehem’s importance to Christianity. Still, in a show of force, they often assemble in large numbers and offer prayers in the Manger Square (see picture).
Moreover, Muslim gangs often come and take possession of Christian-owned lands and properties, as the PA’s security forces stand by and watch without taking any action.
And the irony of the matter is that Christians even do not dare to speak honestly about the intimidation and persecution they suffer from.
When asked about why Muslims would pray so close to the Church of Nativity, Christianity’s holiest site, Pastor Alex Awad, dean of the Bethlehem Bible College, fearful of Muslim violence if he spoke the truth, advised reporters to pose the question to Muslims themselves. In a balancing tone, he said, “Muslims and Christians live here in relative harmony”, only to add that Christians “feel the pressure of Islam… There is intimidation and fanaticism but these are little instances and there is no general persecution.”
This would make it conspicuous the kind of pressure and intimidation under which Christians live in Bethlehem; it must be worse elsewhere in Palestine.
Indeed, there is a general exodus of Christian populations from all over the Middle East, driven out by their Muslim neighbors or Islamic fanatics.
This does not apply to Christians only, but equally, if not more severely to other non-Muslim minorities in all Islamic countries.
So, what could Jesus do in Palestine today?
Definitely not what he preached there in his life-time, not to Muslims at least!
If he would, his body might be found torn into pieces and scattered on the streets of Gaza.
More likely, he would be forced to recite the kalema, the Islamic confession to faith, and would become jihadi shouting “Allahu Akbar”.
Islam claims, Jesus, Moses and Abraham et al. were all “true” Muslims. If Jesus would not wear the mantle of Islam willingly, Muslims know how to make that happen. Apostasy is not tolerated in Islam, definitely not in Gaza.
One may well wonder, if, in a few decades, there will be any Christian, living in the holiest land of Christianity, to light the Church of Nativity or ring its bell in a timely manner.
Yet, it would be some consolation for the world’s Christians that Christianity would maintain its prominent presence in Nazareth, the pleasure-ground of child Jesus, given the state of Israel survives.
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written by vbv , January 06, 2010
written by Nader , January 06, 2010
I do not know what to say but I do not know which world you live in.
You like to suspend logic when it is convenient to you sir. Have you heard of symbolic logic, I think you should take a course in that or maybe a simple objective thinking class?
Your distortion of facts is overwhelming. I did not know that you are now serving a defense lawyer for Israel. I am sure they can use your services especially after all those lawsuits that have been filled against their criminal politicians and military gangs in the UK.
Now going back to the issue regarding the Christian and how they are being kicked out because of the criminal Muslims who they have lived side by side for centuries and not the poor pacifists peace lovers Jews. We saw their peace agendas in action especially in Gaza.
I am sure you have heard of the Omar treaty. If you did not here it is sir
Source - http://www.mamuniya.net/module...icle&sid=2
In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate
This is an assurance of peace and protection given by the servant of Allah Omar, Commander of the Believers to the people of Ilia' (Jerusalem). He gave them an assurance of protection for their lives, property, church and crosses as well as the sick and healthy and all its religious community.
Their churches shall not be occupied, demolished nor taken away wholly or in part. None of their crosses nor property shall be seized. They shall not be coerced in their religion nor shall any of them be injured. None of the Jews shall reside with them in Ilia'.
The people of Ilia shall pay Jizia tax (head tax on free non-Muslims living under Muslim rule) as inhabitants of cities do. They shall evict all Romans and thieves.
He whoever gets out shall be guaranteed safety for his life and property until he reach his safe haven. He whoever stays shall be (also) safe, in which case he shall pay as much tax as the people of Ilia' do. Should any of the people of Ilia wish to move together with his property along with the Romans and to clear out of their churches and crosses, they shall be safe for their lives, churches and crosses, until they have reached then safe haven. He whoever chooses to stay he may do so and he shall pay as much tax as the people of Ilia' do. He whoever wishes to move along with the Roman, may do so, and whoever wishes to return back home to his kinsfolk, may do so. Nothing shall be taken from them, their crops have been harvested. To the contents of this convent here are given the Covenant of Allah, the guarantees of His Messenger, the Caliphs and the Believers, provided they (the people of Ilia') pay their due Jizia tax.
Witnesses hereto are:
Khalid Ibn al-Waleed Amr Ibn al-Ass Abdul-Rahman Ibn'Auf Mu'awiya Ibn abi-Sifian Made and executed in the year 15 AH.
The above is the text approved by historians, foremost of whom are Imam al-Tabari. The text appears in his book "Tareekh Al Umam wal Molouk" (History of Nations and Kings), Part III, Page 105, printed in Cairo and collected by a team of scholars and printed in English at Brill Printing Press London.
Now on the issue of Jesus and what would he do if he was alive today? You lamely stated that the Muslims would not let him preach Christianity. Really, is that what he would preach? Did he after all preach the lies that are filled in the bible today? Did he teach that he is God? Or son of God? Or maybe he taught about the ones of God? and to your sad expectations that is more in-line with What Islam teaches.
I have not mentioned what the Quran say about Issa may peach and blessing be on him till the day of judgment. I leave that to you sir.
written by HT , January 06, 2010
And Christians are not so meek through much of history and in all places: "If ever there was persecution, it was of the Hindus at the hands of Christians, who were actually welcomed in this country, as they have been welcomed in no other place on this planet. Indeed, the first Christian community of the world, that of the Syrian Christians, was established in Kerala in the first century. They were able to live in peace and practice their religion freely, even imbibing some of the local Hindu customs, thereby breaking the Syrian Church in two.
When Vasco de Gama landed in Kerala in 1498, he was generously received by the Zamorin, the Hindu king of Calicut, who granted him the right to establish warehouses for commerce. But once again, Hindu tolerance was exploited and the Portuguese wanted more and more. In 1510, Alfonso de Albuquerque seized Goa, where he started a reign of terror, burning "heretics," crucifying Brahmins, using false theories to forcibly convert the lower castes, razing temples to build churches upon them and encouraging his soldiers to take Indian mistresses.
Indeed, the Portuguese perpetrated here some of the worst atrocities ever committed in Asia by Christianity upon another religion. Ultimately, the Portuguese had to be kicked out of India, when all other colonisers had already left.
British missionaries in India were always supporters of colonialism. They encouraged it and their whole structure was based on "the good Western civilized world being brought to the Pagans." Because, in the words of Claudius Buchanan, a chaplain attached to the East India Company, "Neither truth, nor honesty, honour, gratitude, nor charity, is to be found in the breast of a Hindoo!" What a comment about a nation that gave the world the Vedas at a time when Europeans were still grappling in their caves!
And it is in this way that the British allowed entire chunks of territories in the East, where lived tribals, whose poverty and simplicity made them easy prey to be converted to Christianity. By doing so, the Christian missionaries cut a people from their roots and tradition, made them look westwards towards a culture and a way of life which was not theirs. "
written by HT , January 06, 2010
Mark Twain
"...it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
Thomas Jefferson (the best version of the Bible is his, The Jefferson Bible)
written by HT , January 06, 2010
When Christianity accepts the right of other people to follow their own beliefs and creeds, then only will Jesus Christ's spirit truly radiate in the world. "
F. Gautier
written by duh_swami , January 06, 2010
A monster in his own right...The smartest thing he ever did was to team up with Abu Bakr...but even that didn't work out too well for him in the end...The reason why is because there are no good guys in the Mahoundian story...ALL of them were cutthroats/sand pirates of the most vile kind...At least Jesus never beheaded anyone...He never built a fire on anyone's chest...He never robbed caravans or invaded villages for loot and women...Nor raped his 'right hand possessions'...While Jesus may have had his faults, his moral standards were much higher than any Mahoundian in history, including the current crop of depraved Allah maniacs in Gaza, the West Bank, and everywhere the ummah exists...If Jesus showed up today in Gaza, he would be arrested and executed...probably in public...assuredly in a most depraved and horrific manner...Umar would be proud...
written by Truth Detector , January 06, 2010
Muslim Nader, and other Muslims, I'm not concerned about what might have happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. I'm concerned about what Islam is doing TODAY to everyone, including to other Muslims. Instead of coming to the defense of evil Muslims, you should help to thwart the every day atrocities committed by evil Muslims as I write.
I fight Islam not so much for myself, but for my children, grandchildren, godchildren and friends. I don't want my female grandchildren to suffer at the hands of Muslim sex perverts. As you know, old depraved Muslim male sex perverts actually kidnap little girls as young as seven years old, force the little girls to "marry" them and then literally rape them with impunity. I don't want this to happen to my future female grandchildren and godchildren if Islam rules my country some day. That's one of the reasons that I and many others fight against satanic Islam every day. I've done it for years, and I'll continue to fight against evil Islam until we defeat this vile curse.
You, Nader, complain that I preach the "same" mantra often. Well, Nader, that's because Muslims are committing the same atrocities every day. I would quit "preaching" the same thing if evil Muslims would quit committing their violent and cruel atrocities every day. I understand Muslim evil tactics. You want to intimidate me into quitting my fight against Islam, and reminding people of Islamic crimes so that evil Islam may continue in its destructive path.
Instead of covering for evil Muslims that cut throats, stone women to death, hang effeminate men by the neck until dead, relegate women to second class status or worse, murder their daughters in an honor killing for insignificant excuses, lash women for insignificant reasons, cut off hands, feet, and gouge out eyes of petty thieves, and blow up themselves to hell every day in the middle of a crowd of innocent people, why can't you at least condemn these every day Islamic atrocities? Although thousands and thousands of evil Muslims are converting and becoming good, we need a greater number of Muslims to convert so that every day Muslim atrocities cease.
Where did you get the idea that Allah is Compassionate and Merciful? What a cruel joke. All you need do is look around and see that Allah is satanic, and the evil Muslim armies are the children of Satan/Allah that commit the most cruel criminal acts in the world.
WE MUST DESTORY SATANIC ISLAM BEFORE SATANIC ISLAM DESTROYS US. ALLAH IS SATAN, AND SATAN IS ALLAH.
written by Truth Detector , January 06, 2010
No, HT, I cannot "accept evil Muslims as they are" nor their stupid, evil religion.
F. Gautier, I hope you didn't buy HT's recipe. Always learn to differentiate.
written by Clement , January 06, 2010
written by HT , January 06, 2010
That also wasn't about tolerating "rape, pillage, cutting throats, stoning women to death, hanging effeminate men, lashing women, cutting hands, feet, and gouging out eyes of petty thieves, honor killings, polygamy and adultery, murder, Jizya tax, hypocrisy." Crimes committed in the name of religion are still crimes.
written by COMMON SENCE , January 06, 2010
Mr Muhammad himself never followed islam, in fact Islam followed him. He did whatever he wanted and certified all his actions through quran. Brain ceased followers (muslims) will never understand this. In fact the situation of muslims is like a "complete looser" in this modern civilised world. The root is their religious beliefs which they dont want to accept.
In religions there is no mention of "sports" which are very important for humans physical health. At the same time muslims never invented any sports.
Also we should agree and accept that only "whites" are creative humans on earth from allah/god or by evolution. Once we accept this fact we will start visualizing the world with a clear sence and logic.
written by Truth Detector , January 06, 2010
Common Sence, my religion, I'm a Catholic, has built more than 300,000 hospitals, clinics, primary and secondary schools, colleges, universities, homes for the aged, orphanages. Now, Common Sence, if that isn't creative, than what the hell is creativity? Would you like to mention the greatest artists in the world who were Catholic?
In my country, the good ol' USA, I'm still waiting for atheists to build the first hospital for the benefit of all human beings. About 15% of the adults are atheists in my country. Authentic Catholics take their religion seriously, especially when it comes to helping others. We help everybody without discrimination, and we don't even ask about their religious affiliations. I know because I have witnessed it time and time again.
And you Nader, where do you get the idea that Allah, who taught only death and destruction of human beings, is merciful and compassionate? Quit equating Allah with the True God, the God of the Ten Commandments, the God of the Christians and Jews. Every commandment of Allah has something to do with destroying human beings, especially "infidels." Allah even calls the Jews apes and swine. That Allah is something else. Merciful? Compassionate? What a joke.
written by lw1 , January 06, 2010
Can you give a few examples?
written by M.A. Khan , January 06, 2010
‘I, and all Muslims, promise you and your fellow Christians security as long as you keep the conditions upon you, which are:
1. You shall be under Muslim laws and no other, and shall not refuse to do anything we demand of you.
2. If any of you say anything about the Prophet, his religion and the Quran what is unfitting, he is debarred from the protection of Allah, the commander of the Faithful and all Muslims. The condition on which security was given will be annulled and your life will be outside the pale of law.
3. If one of you commits fornication with or marries a Muslim woman, or robs a Muslim on the high way, or turns a Muslim from his religion, or helps their enemies or shelters a spy; he has broken the agreement, and his life and property is without the law.
4. He who commits lesser harm than this to the goods and honor of a Muslims shall be punished.
5. We shall watch your dealing with the Muslims, and if you have done anything unlawful for a Muslim, we shall undo it and punish you.
6. If you or other unbelievers ask for judgment, we shall give it according to the Muslim law.
7. You shall not display in any Muslim town the crosses, nor parade your idolatry, nor build a church or place of assembly for your prayer, nor beat the Nakus, nor use your idolatrous language about Jesus, the son of Mary, to any Muslim.
8. You shall wear the zunnar [cloth belt] above all your clothes (as a distinguishing mark from Muslims), which must not be hidden.
9. You shall use peculiar saddles and manners of riding and make your kalansuwas [cap] different from those of the Muslims by a mark you put on them.
10. You shall not take the crest of the road, nor the chief seat in the assemblies when Muslims are present.
11. Every free adult male of sound mind shall pay poll-tax [jiziyah], one diner of full weight, at new year. He shall not leave his town till he has paid.
12. A poor man is liable for his own Jizya till it is paid; poverty does not cancel your obligation to pay the Jizya, nor abrogate the protection given to you. If you have anything, we shall take it. Jizya is the only burden as long as you live and travel in the Muslim land, except as merchants.
13. You may not enter Mecca under any conditions. If you travel with merchandise; you must pay one-tenth to the Muslims. You may go wherever you like except Mecca. You can stay in Muslim land except the Hedjaz (Hejaz), where you may stay only three days till you depart.’
How about treating Muslims with the same kind of "horrible" treaty in the West and in other non-Muslim countries, say India?
written by skippy , January 06, 2010
Allow me to introduce myself. I am Skipalah Mendini. I'm fund raising to send Muslim missionaries to the Taliban in Afganistan and Pakistan, and convert them to true Islam. As everyone knows, these Talabani are not true Muslims, as they insist that being a martyr is better than living, and no true Muslim would believe such a thing.
These people need a good ol' Islamic warning to turn away from their sinful ways. True Muslims who belive in Allah and wish for reward, should send money to support Muslim missionaries to the Taliban.
Thank you for your misdirected attention
written by Ibn Kammuna , January 06, 2010
written by leigh , January 07, 2010
Well... one thing is for sure... everyone can see how false the next guy's religion is. You'd think we'd all understand that, go our way and sin no more (biblical reference alert)... but nooooooo. We gotta duke it out.
Allow me to introduce myself. I am Skipalah Mendini. I'm fund raising to send Muslim missionaries to the Taliban in Afganistan and Pakistan, and convert them to true Islam. As everyone knows, these Talabani are not true Muslims, as they insist that being a martyr is better than living, and no true Muslim would believe such a thing."
How amusing skippy.true Islam is reflected in Mohmmad's conduct according to the Quran- the similiarity of Mohammad to the Taliban is overwhelming.
written by The Grand Kaffir of Infidelistan , January 07, 2010
written by vbv , January 07, 2010
No civilized cultures can think of such a criminal and degrading mentality and action, only muslims, mafia goons and brigands can think on those lines.
written by Sumia , January 07, 2010
Which civilized culture are you talking about miser? Is it the western culture that you pagan Indians like to lick its ass day in and day out? If it was not for the Arab money you people would still be living in caves.
written by duh_swami , January 07, 2010
Your missionaries will be killed...Just what is 'true Islam' anyway?
written by tanstaafl (JW) , January 07, 2010
written by lw1 , January 07, 2010
written by Kohi , January 07, 2010
wack a muzzie? one drops out other "pops" up?
nadernut your mo was a baby-raper and goat lover your in a cult dude!
written by Parviz , January 07, 2010
I much appreciate your web site, and in general, your articles. But here I would like to come to Jesus' defense .
While you are right quoting scriptures as how stern Jesus was with the members of the Sanhedrin and condemned their hypocrisy, the scriptures are very clear that Jesus was not a political figure but only was concerned with the mission his Father had called him for.
While the supreme Jewish council was very political and their chief priest said " It is better for one man to be put to death than we loose our livelihood " , the average Jew was also upset at him because he did not go against the brutality of the Roman rule. When they tried to get him to declare the atrocity of the Romans, we read in Matthew's gospel 22:17-21
Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."
Jesus would clearly not side with the Jews or the Palestinians because that would mean kingdom building and in John's gospel 18:36 he said :
Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."
As whether anyone would be able to kill him the answer has to be negative according to what he said to Pilate in John 19:11
Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."
On several occasions after doing miracles in the temple on the Sabbath day the Jewish lawyers and the public picked up stones to kill him but were unable because God had caused them to not see him. God had protected him. His crucifiction was in God's plan according to the scriptures and what he said himself, " father your will be done and not mine ". And as was written 1000 years earlier in Psalms, and Isaiah .
So I would much wish you would not involve Jesus in this kind of discussions.
Thank you.
written by Claude , January 07, 2010
"Now on the issue of Jesus and what would he do if he was alive today? You lamely stated that the Muslims would not let him preach Christianity. Really, is that what he would preach? Did he after all preach the lies that are filled in the bible today? Did he teach that he is God? Or son of God? Or maybe he taught about the ones of God? and to your sad expectations that is more in-line with What Islam teaches.
I have not mentioned what the Quran say about Issa may peach and blessing be on him till the day of judgment. I leave that to you sir."
What you say is nonsense. Christianism have been built on a false Gospel ? How do you know ?
Jesus had been killed precisely for what you denied him to have said. He did not have been crucified ? How do you know ? 600 years after his death, Muhammad said so. Where are his prooves ? Think about it ! You say that Christianism is based on lies and nobody noticed it before Muhammad, even Jesus's disciples. Muslims are so pathetic in their desesperate attempt to accredit Muhammad as a prophet and Islam as a religion. Islam is a parasite of Judaism and christianism, that is why Islam must kill them in order to live. Muslims must accuse Christianism of lying in order to try to hide his own too obvious lie. All your affirmations are gratuitous. When you say that Jesus is not the son of God, this is not a proof that he did not say it. Understand ? I don't mind if he is the son of God or not. The problem is not there. You have no proof and Christians know better than the ignorant Muhammad, and long time before him what were the foundations of their faith.
Try this Nader : falsify the Quran and publish it and give one to your Imam....and a false Islam will be born. Do it, you'll be astonihed. If your experience go wrong, I'll give you a shelter. It is not so easy as you imagine to falsify "holy scriptures".
written by M.A. Khan , January 08, 2010
My central emphasis was to highlight what Jesus would have suffered had he tried to preach the same messages today in Palestine.
And I needed to highlight a bit how the Jews treated him in order to contrast it with how Muslims would.
written by Didymus , January 09, 2010
Well Christ is alive, forever and ever!
He is God eternal and you will meet him in the end, believing in him or not!
Thank you for a great website, by the way.
Kind Regards
written by Walter Sieruk , January 14, 2010
in india in tribal areas xtians r doing same thing to infidels.