Let us celebrate the concept of "free will" and embrace enlightenment and freedom of the human mind as our basic rights and stand united against spiritual terrorists, who aim to enslave and subjugate the enlightened humanity...
"Religion" creates the ‘disease’ and then provides a 'cure' which, in reality is no cure at all…!!! But it serves as a placebo designed to keep the human mind enthralled to the same shared ideology for all eternity, if possible if we have free will.
If we have free will, then we are also free not to believe in the male Jewish-Arab God/Allah or Jesus in the first place …without risking eternal hellfire or any other sadistic punishments by the megalomaniac and tyrannical Almighty.
We can be free not to believe in some hallowed god person, separate and apart from his wretched creations, but, rather than, to perceive the entire cosmos as solely divine and mystical...
Out of our free will, we can choose not to harm other sentient beings (and even humans), regardless of what their religious leaders beckon them to do... We can choose to reject being part of a herd of panicky sheep that turn into raving wolves when it benefits them.
Out of free will, we can be "free agents", who do not belong to religious cult-beliefs of any sort... Indeed, without "God's famous plan", we can be free to create our own visions of life, one of a world not divided by such spurious creeds based in myths and patriarchal belief systems, used to justify racism and sexism…
With our boundless free will, we can create a harmonious unified humanity. Free of from all ‘god-addictions’, we can be free to indeed just to be ...human!
It is time for the world to wake up to these monogamous manipulations of both the history-hungry political leaders and the religious zealots on this planet Earth... When it comes to politics and religion, the fanatics’ religious audacity in either arena will always interpret incidents in a light, favorable to only themselves, at the expense of the naive and uneducated followers...
It is easy for a person in hindsight to construe a world event in a manner to fit his or her compelled belief-system, and it is even easier for politicos, priests or government agencies to create history in order to suit their provocative thoughts or even prove their chosen faith, creed or party, to be ever righteous.
Whatever the case may be…, the world suffers from it, because of such fabricated and puffed-up renditions of reality, which are exploitative, and, repeatedly, lead to bloody discords and warfare.
There can be no peace on Earth, if everything is constantly being viewed through the muddy, murky lenses of belief-systems, and these belief systems as they apply to "religion" are no different than their selfish greed of power and lusts.
It is our destiny to become more universal in our perspectives and behavior, perceiving the cosmos as one, yet filled with unique and marvelous creatures... And this prophecy must come true, or we will face an apocalyptic nightmare of our own makings, the so-called “End Times” also laid out in the Bible/Quran/Torah, as a blueprint in ‘Revelations’ that far too many millions of people are enthusiastic about bringing to pass.
As they are currently presented ...many religious holidays are just plain bogus celebrations, in that they do not really represent the days sacred to God. There are many people, who can see the ethnocentricity and the bigotry involved in these festive holidays; however, even they may go along with them, perhaps, thinking that if there is at all an anthropomorphic deity somewhere "out there", they may also be able to win points in his holy Book of Life and Death. Let us develop or re-develop truly our universal holidays not based on how many other cultures we have trounced, or how many people we have slaughtered, or even the day "our Lord" was viciously murdered or our prophet suffered martyrdom, or some other such violent and life-denying thing. Let us abandon such ugly concepts and instead create beautiful celebrations of humankind, the rest of the natural world and the awesome vastness of the cosmos since the origin of their creations.
As I wonder:Why would God create human beings in this manner?
Why then does the all-powerful Lord of the cosmos need to engage in the human sacrifices in order to fix his creatures, which are poorly created by him in the first place?
Can the Almighty not just snap his fingers and change humanity, forever?
If mankind's so-called original sin is removed via a mystical and supernatural scapegoat ritual—i.e., the sacrifice of Jesus—why cannot some other mechanism equally as supernatural be utilized …such as that ‘snap of the fingers’?
The Christian baptism, too, is supposed to remove magically the taint of original sin, but, as we can tell from the state of the world, this mystical mumbo-jumbo has little to no effect. If baptism were so effective, then, why to conduct a brutal, bloody and barbaric human-sacrifice ritual: murdering God as his own son?
To those who know the true nature and the potentials of the human being, this "born-in-sin" propaganda ranks as calumny, slander and libel against the innocent new-born—pure and simple. Human beings are not-born in sin; therefore, there is no need for a savior of any kind. It is by these crippling beliefs, in the first place, that humanity becomes sickened enough psychologically and spiritually in order to need a savior to fix it. In other words, the religion creates the disease and then provides a cure, which in reality is no cure at all. Instead, it serves as a placebo, designed to keep human mind enthralled to the same mystic ideology for all eternity if possible, while fervent believers bleat and wail about ‘witchcraft’, à la "Harry Potter" for example. The typical prayer-rituals represent mere voodoo and witchcraft itself, as the person, praying, is attempting to affect, supernaturally, some aspects of life, be it a global concern or a personal worry, such as the status of an "unsaved" loved one. In other words, a Christian, fervently praying for the soul of another, haughtily believes that he or she is "saved" and is superior in the matter of prayers, having a direct pipeline to the "right" God. Is there a difference between him/her and a Pagan or Wiccan—despite these fallacious claims otherwise—except that the intent of the modern Pagan or Wiccan seldom seems to be one of conceit and arrogance.
Our curiosity requires us to ask, why Muslims are praying five times a day: For world peace or for global domination, or to top the next guy over in a business deal?
What kind of God needs this sort of prayer several times daily? If God is omniscient, "he" already knows what we want and need. Praying to him becomes an exercise in futility, while a very potent form of mind control in essence.
If God were real and omniscient, this pesky behavior of his could be deemed obnoxious and disrespectful, unless this god is a giant sadist and egoist. “He” is in need of a constant exaltation, praise, groveling, and so on... In that case, however, such a creature could not possibly be considered as God. The bottom-line, then, is that praying for the sake of pleasing a god several times a day is completely unnecessary and useless. Indeed, a case could be made that such prayers are insulting and disrespectful to an omnipotent God, presuming that he needs it for either his egoistic purposes or because he is, in reality, not omniscient and therefore does not already know what we need of him. In this consideration, prayers would be ungodly and unholy, especially bowing several times a day.
People, who claim to be religious, often aren't! Such individuals truly believe that following some doctrine, dogma or egoistic self-appointed "agent of God" makes them religious, when, in fact, following anything, like a brainless sheep, represents the antithesis of a true religion. Not being able to think for yourself is not a mark of great religious piety, but a sign of being cut off from creativity, the potential for which we are endowed with. A person, blindly following the uncreative life prescribed by a religious doctrine, can’t get closer to the Creator, if he exists. Instead, he/she is, in reality, dead in the supposed Creator’s creative life-force, and, thus, stands apart from the Omnipotent…
In fact, not knowing yourself represents the unenlightenment; enlightenment is a potential every human is naturally endowed with. The whole point of life for us—which one may call religion—is become enlightened, awakened, and fully-developed individuals, who take responsibilities for themselves and do not pass it on someone else’s shoulders, whether a savior, messiah or father-god. A religion that causes one to become crippled, self-mortifying and self-deprecating is not a religion, but a system of controlling the masses through psychological deformation and retardation.
Despite the strides made in past centuries, the non-religionists, freethinkers and unbelievers still remain under constant assaults from these religious fanatics and maniacs, who, given a chance, would terrorize and enslave mankind. And they continue attempting to silence us with their holy laws, designed to make criminals out of innocent human beings, if we object to their archaic, brutal and backward religious doctrines: we would be butchered and slaughtered as a means for them to earn free tickets to eternal paradise.
The global political entity, called the United Nations, is currently being hijacked by such would-be spiritual enslavers, who want to outlaw "defamation of religion", and to silence such critics with "anti-blasphemy laws", straight out of the Dark Ages. For this reason, there is an urgency for us all, believing freedom and liberty, to stop our enlightened human civilization from falling to these plotters and manipulators of religious conundrums, who would subjugate us all. All freedom-loving member of our human family must embrace the enlightened ideas of our being, and stand united to make sure that our hard-earned spirit of freedom is not being stamped out by the agents of religious tyranny and fascism. Claim these liberating and free-thought concepts even as your right to religious beliefs, and stand up safeguarding your liberty, freedom and enlightenment for all by confronting the spiritual terrorists, the subjugators, take the basic human rights away from us, whether in the guise of deceitful religious or whatsoever.
There is strength in numbers, and we currently have the numbers to defeat the religious terrorists. So, let us use them wisely and with due haste. We must also do it using wisdom: while we should to be inspired to be passionate in defence against tyranny, we ourselves must not produce tyrants.
There is a feeling of urgency, in the works of many enlightened writers (who write and unmask the religious bigotries and intolerance of hatred of the unbelievers), to confront religious tyranny and spiritual enslavement, as millions of religiously deranged and God-obsessed individuals attempt to crush all aspects of the true human enlightenment and liberty, covering up and subduing all wonder, beauty and awes... If we do not cherish and uphold sacred these basic concepts and ideas of human enlightenment and liberation, we may, very well, find ourselves staring down the black hole of an impending New Dark Age. In the end, it is our sincere desire to impart a sense of delight in the celebration of life that will act as an antidote to darkness, the dire-straits, that lurk at our doorsteps.
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written by kmgy , August 23, 2009
Communism tried a godless form of government but failed miserably. It is despicable that evil Islam makes some people hostile to religion or the belief in the existence of a Supreme Being. Freewill is inherent in human beings to choose good or evil. What we see as a miserable state is the result of man's inhumanity to man. Forces of deception is at work to mislead man.
written by Philip Saenz , August 23, 2009
Lennard James, you are a good person. There is no doubt in my mind. You have done what so many other persons have done. You have created a god, and that god is you. Some of these gods remain good; others become tyrants. Just make sure that you remain good, and not a tyrant. We'll get along just fine if you remain good.
I know that a Supreme Being exists because of the many experiences in the supernatural. This Supreme Being is chasing you every day, James. That's why you cannot get God out of your mind. God is chasing you. That's how God works with His little creatures that He loves. God has not abandoned you. He gives you a choice. If you abandon God, He has no other choice but to abandon you on your last day. God is a Gentleman. He will not force you to go to Him. On the last day, if you remain adamantly against Him, God will not grab you and say, "You have to come with me anyway." God is a Gentleman. He will not go against your free will.
Much is true what you say. We have a free will because this Supreme Being gave us a free will. We did not invent our free wills. We can choose Him, the Supreme Being, and His Commandments, or we can reject Him and His Commandments. Notice that the Commandments of a Supreme Being is for our own benefit, and not for the benefit of a Supreme Being that we generally call God. We can become beastly, tyrannical, or we can become meek and mild. God, the Supreme Being gave us a choice. Yes, He gave us a free will.
Come on, James, where do you think you got your conscience? Do you think you created it yourself?
Unfortunately, some human beings choose to become tyrannical. I'm sure you know that these human beings can belong to a religion that produces harmony, or to a religion that produces strife and chaos. Some human beings invent a religion that is tyrannical. Muhammad is a good example. Atheists, too, invent a religion or an ideology. Some of these religions or ideologies are tyrannical. Atheistic Nazism, invented by Hitler, was, as you know, tyrannical. Some religions remain passive.
Dont' start giving me that bull that Hitler was a Catholic. Did you ever see a picture of Hitler praying to the Almighty? Did you ever see a picture of Hitler entering a church?
Allow me to quote a little ditty that the Hitler youth sang: "We are the joyous Hitler youth. We did not need any Christian virtue. Our leader is our savior. The Pope and the Rabbi shall be gone. We want to be pagans once again." Yes, they had a free will to sing that song. Yes, Hitler, who had a free will, rejected his Creator. Yes, Adolph didn't believe in the Ten Commandments that create harmony.
I'm not sure whether or not you are aware that you are actually following at least most of the Ten Commandments of the True God: "Thou shalt not kill." "Thou shalt not steal." "Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor." "Honor your father and mother." "Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife." "Thou shalt not commit adultery." All these, and more, commandments produce harmony. I know you don't believe it, but it is the Supreme Being, Who gave you a conscience that allows you to follow at least some of the Great Commandments. That's what makes you a good person.
Those who stray from the Great Commandments become very evil criminals. Do you think Muhammad didn't stray from the Great Commandments? That SOB (Son Of the Beast) was breaking every commandment EVERY DAY. Islam is the antithesis of the Great Commandments and of the True God, the God of Love. Do you think Allah is the True God? Not a chance. Allah is the antithesis of the True God, the God of Love, the God of the Ten Commandments. Allah is Satan, and Muhammad was a child of Satan, the god of cruelty, the god of Female Genital Mutilation, the god of violence, the god of polygamy, the god of private Muslim whorehouses, the god of Muslim suicide bombers, the god of slavery, the god of war, the god of wife beaters, the god that allows depraved Muslim male sex perverts to legally kidnap little girls, the god that allows depraved Muslim sex perverts to force little girls to marry them, the god that allows depraved Muslim sex perverts to legally rape little girls, the god of Islam, the god of the Muslims.
No, James, Satan isn't your god. You are too good to have Satan as your god. If you are following the Ten Commandments with your free will that the True God has given you, then, the True God, the God of Love, is your God. Be careful that you don't make yourself a little god.
P.S. Some day you will believe in the Cause of all causes.
I know that a Supreme Being exists because of the many experiences in the supernatural. This Supreme Being is chasing you every day, James. That's why you cannot get God out of your mind. God is chasing you. That's how God works with His little creatures that He loves. God has not abandoned you. He gives you a choice. If you abandon God, He has no other choice but to abandon you on your last day. God is a Gentleman. He will not force you to go to Him. On the last day, if you remain adamantly against Him, God will not grab you and say, "You have to come with me anyway." God is a Gentleman. He will not go against your free will.
Much is true what you say. We have a free will because this Supreme Being gave us a free will. We did not invent our free wills. We can choose Him, the Supreme Being, and His Commandments, or we can reject Him and His Commandments. Notice that the Commandments of a Supreme Being is for our own benefit, and not for the benefit of a Supreme Being that we generally call God. We can become beastly, tyrannical, or we can become meek and mild. God, the Supreme Being gave us a choice. Yes, He gave us a free will.
Come on, James, where do you think you got your conscience? Do you think you created it yourself?
Unfortunately, some human beings choose to become tyrannical. I'm sure you know that these human beings can belong to a religion that produces harmony, or to a religion that produces strife and chaos. Some human beings invent a religion that is tyrannical. Muhammad is a good example. Atheists, too, invent a religion or an ideology. Some of these religions or ideologies are tyrannical. Atheistic Nazism, invented by Hitler, was, as you know, tyrannical. Some religions remain passive.
Dont' start giving me that bull that Hitler was a Catholic. Did you ever see a picture of Hitler praying to the Almighty? Did you ever see a picture of Hitler entering a church?
Allow me to quote a little ditty that the Hitler youth sang: "We are the joyous Hitler youth. We did not need any Christian virtue. Our leader is our savior. The Pope and the Rabbi shall be gone. We want to be pagans once again." Yes, they had a free will to sing that song. Yes, Hitler, who had a free will, rejected his Creator. Yes, Adolph didn't believe in the Ten Commandments that create harmony.
I'm not sure whether or not you are aware that you are actually following at least most of the Ten Commandments of the True God: "Thou shalt not kill." "Thou shalt not steal." "Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor." "Honor your father and mother." "Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife." "Thou shalt not commit adultery." All these, and more, commandments produce harmony. I know you don't believe it, but it is the Supreme Being, Who gave you a conscience that allows you to follow at least some of the Great Commandments. That's what makes you a good person.
Those who stray from the Great Commandments become very evil criminals. Do you think Muhammad didn't stray from the Great Commandments? That SOB (Son Of the Beast) was breaking every commandment EVERY DAY. Islam is the antithesis of the Great Commandments and of the True God, the God of Love. Do you think Allah is the True God? Not a chance. Allah is the antithesis of the True God, the God of Love, the God of the Ten Commandments. Allah is Satan, and Muhammad was a child of Satan, the god of cruelty, the god of Female Genital Mutilation, the god of violence, the god of polygamy, the god of private Muslim whorehouses, the god of Muslim suicide bombers, the god of slavery, the god of war, the god of wife beaters, the god that allows depraved Muslim male sex perverts to legally kidnap little girls, the god that allows depraved Muslim sex perverts to force little girls to marry them, the god that allows depraved Muslim sex perverts to legally rape little girls, the god of Islam, the god of the Muslims.
No, James, Satan isn't your god. You are too good to have Satan as your god. If you are following the Ten Commandments with your free will that the True God has given you, then, the True God, the God of Love, is your God. Be careful that you don't make yourself a little god.
P.S. Some day you will believe in the Cause of all causes.
written by to Philip , August 23, 2009
You have given the answer to James in a big detail.As long people like you exist on this earth evil will not over come on good.May true God bless you and use you for his glory.Amin.
written by balam , August 23, 2009
Lenard James represents a confused mind ,like a person looking for light in darkness,depending entirely on his own self pride and arrogance.It is self exaltation.Those who exalt themselves,will be humbled.I think lenard knows who said that but he tends not to admit that he is not as smart as he thinks.The cultures and religions like Islam,which do not allow you free will,remain tyrant and backward.Eventually,these will disappear like Nazism and Communism but Islam will take a little longer because it keeps its followers ignorant and brainwashed by force It won,t last for ever.Islam is fragile and unstable and needs draconian Islamic Sharia and Blasphemy laws to support its survival.
written by Li , August 23, 2009
World needs to rule through humane and moral rules.
Islam is the anti-these to all things which are good and just. Islam needs hate to survive. The purest islamic society was taliban, no education for men and women as Muhammed the ideal man was illiterate. Marrying a girl by 9 years as Ayesha was known as the best of women and best marriage with muhammed.
Killings and raids to nearby countries as Muhammed did. Keeping beard and making it red as Muhammed did. Putting all women in hijab. Ask any muslim in western world , he will claim that nobody is practising real islam and he knows what is real islam.
Islam is the anti-these to all things which are good and just. Islam needs hate to survive. The purest islamic society was taliban, no education for men and women as Muhammed the ideal man was illiterate. Marrying a girl by 9 years as Ayesha was known as the best of women and best marriage with muhammed.
Killings and raids to nearby countries as Muhammed did. Keeping beard and making it red as Muhammed did. Putting all women in hijab. Ask any muslim in western world , he will claim that nobody is practising real islam and he knows what is real islam.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
Go for it Lennard. Ignore nutcases like kmgy, Philip and balam. Their voices are getting smaller and smaller all the time.
"Dont' start giving me that bull that Hitler was a Catholic. Did you ever see a picture of Hitler praying to the Almighty? Did you ever see a picture of Hitler entering a church?"
Did you ever see hitler praying to a pagan god or torture christians in gas chambers? How come his agenda of persecuting jews aligns so closely with christians' hate for the christ killers if he was not indeed christian?
"Dont' start giving me that bull that Hitler was a Catholic. Did you ever see a picture of Hitler praying to the Almighty? Did you ever see a picture of Hitler entering a church?"
Did you ever see hitler praying to a pagan god or torture christians in gas chambers? How come his agenda of persecuting jews aligns so closely with christians' hate for the christ killers if he was not indeed christian?
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"I'm not sure whether or not you are aware that you are actually following at least most of the Ten Commandments of the True God: "Thou shalt not kill." "Thou shalt not steal." "Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor." "Honor your father and mother." "Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife." "Thou shalt not commit adultery." All these, and more, commandments produce harmony"
Which ten commandments are you talking about here? catholic protestant or hebrew?
And what about this commandment?
"# "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt... You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an idol..." "
This doesn't produce harmony by a long shot. It incites hatred of disbelievers in your particular god delusion. It incites hatred of followers of other religions.
"Thou shalt not kill."
The bible is full of murder and killing.
"Thou shalt not commit adultery."
Jesus was born out of wedlock when mary was fucked by some grand daddy in the sky who was not her husband.
"Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife."
God coveted Joseph's wife and thus was born jesus.
"Honor your father and mother."
Even if they beat you up and indulge in child abuse? What about honor your children?
Here are some better sets of commandments:
http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_commandments.html
http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9671.htm
Which ten commandments are you talking about here? catholic protestant or hebrew?
And what about this commandment?
"# "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt... You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an idol..." "
This doesn't produce harmony by a long shot. It incites hatred of disbelievers in your particular god delusion. It incites hatred of followers of other religions.
"Thou shalt not kill."
The bible is full of murder and killing.
"Thou shalt not commit adultery."
Jesus was born out of wedlock when mary was fucked by some grand daddy in the sky who was not her husband.
"Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife."
God coveted Joseph's wife and thus was born jesus.
"Honor your father and mother."
Even if they beat you up and indulge in child abuse? What about honor your children?
Here are some better sets of commandments:
http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_commandments.html
http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9671.htm
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
--"Which ten commandments are you talking about here? catholic protestant or hebrew?"--
It ais the same set of Ten Commandments, whether Catholic, Protestant, or Hebrew.
--"The bible is full of murder and killing."--
These are written accounts of violent events in the past relative to Israel's history. You cannot fault the Bible for faithfully recording such events in the same analogy that you cannot blame a newspaper publication for reporting a gruesome murder.
--"You shall not make for yourself an idol.."--
No idol can represent the Living God.
It ais the same set of Ten Commandments, whether Catholic, Protestant, or Hebrew.
--"The bible is full of murder and killing."--
These are written accounts of violent events in the past relative to Israel's history. You cannot fault the Bible for faithfully recording such events in the same analogy that you cannot blame a newspaper publication for reporting a gruesome murder.
--"You shall not make for yourself an idol.."--
No idol can represent the Living God.
written by Warner , August 24, 2009
Allah gives respite to sinners so they can become more sinful and can be punished even more: 3.178
Allah prevents unbelievers from knowing the truth by casting veils on their hearts .6.25
Allah will make some people sin and will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy here and awful doom in the hereafter 5.41
Allah does not guide disbelievers 5.67
Allah confound the hearts and eyes of the unbelievers and let them wander blindly 6.110
Allah casts veils in hearts and deafness in their ears lest they understand revelations when they hear it 17.46
Allah covers their hearts and put deafness in their ears so that even if they are guided they can never be lead right 18.57
Allah misguides humans, creates evil desires in them, causing them to slit throats of cattle and alter nature 4.119
Allah deceiving humans 4.142
Allah plots against disbelievers 3.54
Allah is the best plotter against disbelievers 8.30
Allah sent shaitan to incite unbelievers with incitement 19.83
Whomsoever it is God's will to guide, God expands his bosom to surrender, and whomsoever he wills , narrows their bosom to lead them astray 6.125
Jinns lead many to astray 6.128
Allah could send signs to make people believe but did not 26.4
Allah caused disbelief in Quran in the hearts of sinners 26.200
Allah has sealed the hearts of disbelievers 2.7
Allah mocking men who are like cattle, do not hear or understand 25.44
Prophet cannot guide everyone, even if he tried, God decides whom to guide 28.56
Eternal punishment for disbelievers, no forgiveness 35.36-38.
Shaitan cannot harm any one except with God's permission 58.10 (Is God to be blamed for all acts of shaitan?)
Allah could have guided every one but chose not to 6.149
Allah made it so that some cannot be believers 7.101
Allah sends some astray 7.155
Whom Allah sends astray, there is no guide for them, they wander blindly 7.186
Allah curses people by making deaf and blind 47.23
Allah sends astray whom he wills and guides whom he wills 74.31
Allah has cursed disbelievers and has prepared flaming fire 33.64
Allah created some men for hell who are like cattle who cannot see, hear or understand 7.179
Allah causes people to err 17.97
Allah could guide if he wished so 4.143,6.125,7.178,18.17,35.8
Allah guides or strays whom he pleases 39.23.14.4.35.8
None cannot follow the right path unless God wills 76.29-30,74.55-56,6.100.
Allah sends signs to only those who believe 2.118
Nothing can make disbelievers believe unless God wishes 6.118
Allah made disbelievers deaf and dumb 2.17-18
So, on the day of judgment, as an infidel, I will be damned to eternal hellfire despite the fact that it was Allah, who is sitting in judgment, is the very one who is responsible for me being misguided and sent astray!
How manifestly peculiar is the reasoning and logic of this primitive, so called, religion?
Allah prevents unbelievers from knowing the truth by casting veils on their hearts .6.25
Allah will make some people sin and will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy here and awful doom in the hereafter 5.41
Allah does not guide disbelievers 5.67
Allah confound the hearts and eyes of the unbelievers and let them wander blindly 6.110
Allah casts veils in hearts and deafness in their ears lest they understand revelations when they hear it 17.46
Allah covers their hearts and put deafness in their ears so that even if they are guided they can never be lead right 18.57
Allah misguides humans, creates evil desires in them, causing them to slit throats of cattle and alter nature 4.119
Allah deceiving humans 4.142
Allah plots against disbelievers 3.54
Allah is the best plotter against disbelievers 8.30
Allah sent shaitan to incite unbelievers with incitement 19.83
Whomsoever it is God's will to guide, God expands his bosom to surrender, and whomsoever he wills , narrows their bosom to lead them astray 6.125
Jinns lead many to astray 6.128
Allah could send signs to make people believe but did not 26.4
Allah caused disbelief in Quran in the hearts of sinners 26.200
Allah has sealed the hearts of disbelievers 2.7
Allah mocking men who are like cattle, do not hear or understand 25.44
Prophet cannot guide everyone, even if he tried, God decides whom to guide 28.56
Eternal punishment for disbelievers, no forgiveness 35.36-38.
Shaitan cannot harm any one except with God's permission 58.10 (Is God to be blamed for all acts of shaitan?)
Allah could have guided every one but chose not to 6.149
Allah made it so that some cannot be believers 7.101
Allah sends some astray 7.155
Whom Allah sends astray, there is no guide for them, they wander blindly 7.186
Allah curses people by making deaf and blind 47.23
Allah sends astray whom he wills and guides whom he wills 74.31
Allah has cursed disbelievers and has prepared flaming fire 33.64
Allah created some men for hell who are like cattle who cannot see, hear or understand 7.179
Allah causes people to err 17.97
Allah could guide if he wished so 4.143,6.125,7.178,18.17,35.8
Allah guides or strays whom he pleases 39.23.14.4.35.8
None cannot follow the right path unless God wills 76.29-30,74.55-56,6.100.
Allah sends signs to only those who believe 2.118
Nothing can make disbelievers believe unless God wishes 6.118
Allah made disbelievers deaf and dumb 2.17-18
So, on the day of judgment, as an infidel, I will be damned to eternal hellfire despite the fact that it was Allah, who is sitting in judgment, is the very one who is responsible for me being misguided and sent astray!
How manifestly peculiar is the reasoning and logic of this primitive, so called, religion?
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
the destruction of Christianity was explicitly recognized as a purpose of the National Socialist movement," said Baldur von Scvhirach, leader of the group that would come to be known as Hitler youth.
One is either a Christian or a German,". "You can't be both".--Hitler
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."--Hitler
Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay."
Albert Speer, Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production, reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
In 1998 documents were released by Cornell University from the Nuremberg Trials,[41] that revealed Nazi plans to exterminate Christianity at the end of World War II.
One senior member of the U.S. prosecution team, General William Donovan, as part of his work on documenting Nazi war crimes, compiled large amounts of documentation that the Nazis also planned to systematically destroy Christianity.
Among eastern religions, Hitler described religious leaders such as "Confucius, Buddha, and Mohammed" as providers of "spiritual sustenance"
Hitler's choice of the Swastika as the Nazis' main and official symbol, was linked to the belief in the Aryan cultural descent of the German people. They considered the early Aryans of India to be the prototypical white invaders and the sign as a symbol of the Aryan master race.
Here it is the Nazism-Hinduism connection.
The swastika (from Sanskrit svástika) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing form or its mirrored left-facing form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period and was first found in the Indus Valley Civilization of Pakistan. It occurs today mainly in the modern day culture of northern India, sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It also remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Though once commonly used all over much of the world, the symbol has become stigmatized and to some extent taboo in the Western world because of its iconic usage by Nazi Germany.
One is either a Christian or a German,". "You can't be both".--Hitler
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."--Hitler
Goebbels notes in a diary entry in 1939: "The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay."
Albert Speer, Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production, reports a similar statement: “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
In 1998 documents were released by Cornell University from the Nuremberg Trials,[41] that revealed Nazi plans to exterminate Christianity at the end of World War II.
One senior member of the U.S. prosecution team, General William Donovan, as part of his work on documenting Nazi war crimes, compiled large amounts of documentation that the Nazis also planned to systematically destroy Christianity.
Among eastern religions, Hitler described religious leaders such as "Confucius, Buddha, and Mohammed" as providers of "spiritual sustenance"
Hitler's choice of the Swastika as the Nazis' main and official symbol, was linked to the belief in the Aryan cultural descent of the German people. They considered the early Aryans of India to be the prototypical white invaders and the sign as a symbol of the Aryan master race.
Here it is the Nazism-Hinduism connection.
The swastika (from Sanskrit svástika) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing form or its mirrored left-facing form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period and was first found in the Indus Valley Civilization of Pakistan. It occurs today mainly in the modern day culture of northern India, sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It also remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Though once commonly used all over much of the world, the symbol has become stigmatized and to some extent taboo in the Western world because of its iconic usage by Nazi Germany.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"Here it is the Nazism-Hinduism connection.
The swastika (from Sanskrit svástika) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing form or its mirrored left-facing form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period and was first found in the Indus Valley Civilization of Pakistan."
History:
Plenty of Jews have been killed by Christians.
For 2500 years not a single jew has been killed by Hindus in the name of religion. Jews have not faced anti-semitism ONLY in India though they have been here for 2500 years. We will let the Jews decide,
So was Hitler a Christian or a Hindu?
Hitler gassed millions of gypsies who were pagan and hindu.
Hitler did not gas even a single christian.
So was Hitler a Christian or a Hindu?
The swastika (from Sanskrit svástika) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing form or its mirrored left-facing form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period and was first found in the Indus Valley Civilization of Pakistan."
History:
Plenty of Jews have been killed by Christians.
For 2500 years not a single jew has been killed by Hindus in the name of religion. Jews have not faced anti-semitism ONLY in India though they have been here for 2500 years. We will let the Jews decide,
So was Hitler a Christian or a Hindu?
Hitler gassed millions of gypsies who were pagan and hindu.
Hitler did not gas even a single christian.
So was Hitler a Christian or a Hindu?
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
Hitler killed a lot of jews.
Christians have killed a lot of jews.
Hindus have not killed even a single jew.
So was hitler a Christian or Hindu?
Christians have killed a lot of jews.
Hindus have not killed even a single jew.
So was hitler a Christian or Hindu?
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"No idol can represent the Living God."
Then repeat after me. "I piss on the Cross I do not worship it It doesn't represent God."
Then repeat after me. "I piss on the Cross I do not worship it It doesn't represent God."
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"Here it is the Nazism-Hinduism connection."
Here it is the Nazism-Christian Connection - Nazareth - the hometown of Jesuz founder of christianity. Hitler named his party Nazi in honor of that town.
A person from Nazareth, the Jesuz of Nazareth is a Nazi. Get it?
Here it is the Nazism-Christian Connection - Nazareth - the hometown of Jesuz founder of christianity. Hitler named his party Nazi in honor of that town.
A person from Nazareth, the Jesuz of Nazareth is a Nazi. Get it?
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
Worship God in truth and in spirit. the Cross deserve respect as a symbol of Christianity in the same analogy a flag deserve respect as a symbol of a nation. Try to be respectful Mr. Anonymous.
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
--"Hitler did not gas even a single christian."--
This is a baseless statement meant to mislead. Read history Mr. Anonymous. Hitler admired Confucius, Buddha, and Mohammed. The same blood flowed in their veins.
This is a baseless statement meant to mislead. Read history Mr. Anonymous. Hitler admired Confucius, Buddha, and Mohammed. The same blood flowed in their veins.
written by continuum , August 24, 2009
the Cross deserve respect as a symbol of Christianity
In the same analogy, why can't an idol deserve respect as the symbols of their respective God(s) and/or religions?
Try to be respectful Mr. Anonymous.
How many xians are respectful of say Buddha's idols or idols of other God(s)?
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
The term Nazi is derived from the first two syllables of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the official German language name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (commonly known in English as the Nazi Party). Nazareth is the birthplace of Jesus. There is no correlation at all between Nazi and Nazareth. Mr. Anonymous please accept the fact that Hitler is a fan of Buddha, Confucius, and Mohammad. The Nazi symbol swastika is also a Hindu religious symbol. The Nazis considered themselves descendants of the Aryans of India. So therefore Hindus and Nazis are correlated.
written by kmgy , August 24, 2009
For your information Mr. continuum as a Christian and a follower of Jesus, I truly respect whatever you believed or worshiped. The fear that Christians will destroy other cultures is a MYTH and a baseless and imagined FEAR propagated by workers of deceit to discredit Christianity. Other non-Christian people simply see the light in Jesus Christ and follow Him and abandon their old ways and became Christians, thus people mistakenly thought (maliciously or not) that their culture is destroyed. You can come to the beautiful land of America and worship your Hindu gods without being molested. Or you can be a Christian and still be an Indian.
written by John , August 24, 2009
There's an odd "point" often made by religionists that by not believing in a god, that you make yourself one.
Which is absurd... there's no logic behind it.
So many people seem to believe that religion a reason mix well.
What exactly is wrong with having an irrational religious belief? Why can't religious people simply realize that religion can't be reasoned out... and that a person can only find a particular religion... say, Islam or Christianity by revelation?
Why must people insist their religion is deducible from logic? The examples of strained and tortured logic that are given to support religion are quite plain.
Why not simply say "I have an irrational belief, and I recognize it's irrational... and furthermore, it must be irrational as my god (whichever it is) is transcendent to human reason"?
Nobody makes themselves a god by deciding gods don't exist.... not even metaphorically.
I understand that it's a matter of who has "ultimate authority" in one's life, and that by denying a god the ultimate authority in your life that (through twisted "logic") the ultimate authority defaults to the person in question.
It's mind boggling that the above reasoning is acceptable to people of faith. It's downright Islamic.
The various scriptures of Islam and Christianity are quite clear that religion is not a matter of reason.... yet folks seem adamant about rejecting those scriptural declarations.
In logic and mathematics, an "axiom" is a statement of accepted truth that cannot be deduced from other facts. Axioms exist independently of rationalizations. An example might be "There are really no paradoxes. The appearance of a paradox indicates a lack of knowledge. As education increases, paradoxes in the natural world will resolve into clarity".
Now. No one can prove that statement. It defies and transcends typical logic... and I certainly don't mind if you accept or reject that premise.... in fact, most schools of quantum physics reject it.
An alternative is that if you aren't seeing a paradox, then you don't have enough information. The nature of ultimate particle physics is such that if you are finally seeing the "God Particle" that human ability is frustrated.... leaving only unsoveable paradoxes.
You can accept or reject that one too.
Neither statement can be proven or disproven, and that's okay.
Which is absurd... there's no logic behind it.
So many people seem to believe that religion a reason mix well.
What exactly is wrong with having an irrational religious belief? Why can't religious people simply realize that religion can't be reasoned out... and that a person can only find a particular religion... say, Islam or Christianity by revelation?
Why must people insist their religion is deducible from logic? The examples of strained and tortured logic that are given to support religion are quite plain.
Why not simply say "I have an irrational belief, and I recognize it's irrational... and furthermore, it must be irrational as my god (whichever it is) is transcendent to human reason"?
Nobody makes themselves a god by deciding gods don't exist.... not even metaphorically.
I understand that it's a matter of who has "ultimate authority" in one's life, and that by denying a god the ultimate authority in your life that (through twisted "logic") the ultimate authority defaults to the person in question.
It's mind boggling that the above reasoning is acceptable to people of faith. It's downright Islamic.
The various scriptures of Islam and Christianity are quite clear that religion is not a matter of reason.... yet folks seem adamant about rejecting those scriptural declarations.
In logic and mathematics, an "axiom" is a statement of accepted truth that cannot be deduced from other facts. Axioms exist independently of rationalizations. An example might be "There are really no paradoxes. The appearance of a paradox indicates a lack of knowledge. As education increases, paradoxes in the natural world will resolve into clarity".
Now. No one can prove that statement. It defies and transcends typical logic... and I certainly don't mind if you accept or reject that premise.... in fact, most schools of quantum physics reject it.
An alternative is that if you aren't seeing a paradox, then you don't have enough information. The nature of ultimate particle physics is such that if you are finally seeing the "God Particle" that human ability is frustrated.... leaving only unsoveable paradoxes.
You can accept or reject that one too.
Neither statement can be proven or disproven, and that's okay.
written by continuum , August 24, 2009
The fear that Christians will destroy other cultures is a MYTH and a baseless and imagined FEAR propagated by workers of deceit to discredit Christianity.
History and present day events clearly show quite the opposite. Christians have historically destroyed non-christian religions through state sponsored persecution.
Examples are numerous inquisitions imposed throughout Europe and world (Goa, India) where non-believers were tortured. Have you heard of numerous witch burnings etc. What do you think these were? What about the edicts of constantine which explicitly recognized xianity as state religion and destroyed pagan religions an their worship places?
Even at present, US Baptist churches sponsored terrorist actvities in India. One of the organization is NLFT in Tripura Inida which kills Hindus.
Besides there are numerous evangelists like Pat Robertson who call Hindism as demonic and call for banning Hinduism and Hindus in USA. What have you to say regarding these? I have alredy quoted evidences for these things earlier.
So please stop lying.
Other non-Christian people simply see the light in Jesus Christ and follow Him and abandon their old ways and became Christians
and what is this light they see which encourages these converts to desecrate worship places of Buddhists or Hindus and engage in terrorism.
Desecration of Buddhist temples in Korea
http://www.buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/pic1/list.html
Terrorism against Hindus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3762630.stm
The NLFT wants to throw Bengali settlers out of Tripura and has also called for a ban on celebration of Durga Puja among indigenous tribes.
But this year, despite the rebel threat, thousands of tribes people have joined Bengalis to observe Durga Puja.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/717775.stm
Last year, they issued a ban on the Hindu festivals of Durga Puja and Saraswati Puja.
The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura.
written by continuum , August 24, 2009
For your information Mr. continuum as a Christian and a follower of Jesus, I truly respect whatever you believed or worshiped.
I know you are lying just as you lied about xians habving spread their religion peacefully.
I will provide a report which I provided earlier which shows how much hatred xian organizations in west spread for Eastern religions. I provided this earlier as well. The only reason these xians in west do not attack non-believers is because of the stable and efficient secular government and laws which will duly punish them. Even then there have been desecration of worship places in USA, Australia etc. and attacks on Eastern religion followers.
Hinduphobia: Online Hatred, Extremism and Bigotry Against Hindus
written by continuum , August 24, 2009
Mr. Anonymous please accept the fact that Hitler is a fan of Buddha, Confucius, and Mohammad. The Nazi symbol swastika is also a Hindu religious symbol. The Nazis considered themselves descendants of the Aryans of India.
Lets say all the above is true.
Did Buddha, Confucius or Hindus teach genocide of non-believers anywhere? Nowhere in any of their teachings any mention of genocide of non-believers is mentioned. Besides there is no mention of Jews anywhere.
The whole idea of "Aryan race" is a direct outcome of Christian interpretation (Max Muller and others who were staunch xians) of Indian history, in order to discredit Vedic religion or Hinduism. No Hindu has ever interpreted (in ts 5000 year history) the word "Arya" as a race.
19th century Europe was full of racism and this discredited theory was accepted as fact and used by European racists for their political and religious goals.
It is well known that new testament is highly anti-semitic and holds all Jews responsible for the death of your god. Consequently, there is 1600 years of history of grotesque persecution of jews in your nations.
On the other hand Hindus have not harmed on Jew in last 2000 years (Jews moved to India 2000 years back to escape persecution from xians and also muslims in later time) in India.
Despite this fact, you say Hinduism is responsible for Hitler's ideology. Only a xian can come up with such twisted logic.
So therefore Hindus and Nazis are correlated.
Exactly in what way are they related, except for the fact that Hitler stole the symbols of Hinduism, used the misinterpreted history (misinterpreted by so called obver-zealous xian scholars like Max Mueller) of Vedic word "Arya"?
Anti-semitism is very much part of xian and Islamic teaching, while Vedas or Hinduism does not even mention Jews or genocide of non-believers.
written by Truth Detector , August 24, 2009
John, I know several languages, but I have never come across the word "deducible." Do you mean "deductible"? Perhaps that is what you mean.
It's true that a person cannot come to an infallible religion unless you have information from a world that is far superior than our material world.
I'm a Christian, a Catholic, and I do believe that my religion is infallible in FAITH AND MORALS, BUT ONLY IN FAITH AND MORALS. No, I don't believe that the Catholic Church is infallible in, for example, astronomy, mathematics, medicine, and a host of other things or sciences.
There is something about some people like myself who have had many experiences from a supernatural world that is far superior to our material world. Some people have had only one or two experiences. I have had many. I'm telling you these things despite the fact that I am subjecting myself to redicule. How well I know. But I don't mind. But I hope you'll be as nice to me as I would be to you.
In the beginning, with me, it was only faith, but no more. It is now reality. I know what I have seen, and I know what I have heard. Yes, I have had many experiences in the supernatural. Supernatural means above nature, above what we here perceive in our natural world.
I'm not going to write a whole book here for you, but I will convey to you that there are very beautiful angels. No, angels don't have wings. Muhammad was a madman full of you know what. Yes, the Blessed Mother exists. Yes, God exists, Who is a Supreme Being. I will not go into lengthy explanations or arguments; however I'll leave you with some thoughts. Think of matter. Ask yourself: Is matter eternal? Where did matter come from? How can matter possibly be eternal if it is eternal? Is there something or someone greater than matter?
Be nice. Don't laugh. I was in a protracted war a few years ago. There were many miracles, of course, in the supernatural order during that war. Perhaps there were two or three hundred miracles in all. I and my warriors lost count.
At the end of the war, that I call The War OF Miracles, I asked God to leave a great miracle at a very special spot. Because our Supreme God is generous, He performed this great miracle which is in place now at a certain place that I will not mention at present. Yes, this miracle has converted thousands of people, including atheists.
I'm asking God to perform another miracle by expanding on the miracle that is in place at present. If God does this, and I believe He will some day, you'll hear about it. I'm doing this for the benefit of people who do not believe in a Supreme Being. In the meantime, may the Cause of all causes bless you.
P.S. Yes, God can create out of nothing. I've seen Him do it not one time, not two times, but three times. These are only the small miracles. Perhaps someday I'll be able to tell you of much bigger miracles. My God bless you.
It's true that a person cannot come to an infallible religion unless you have information from a world that is far superior than our material world.
I'm a Christian, a Catholic, and I do believe that my religion is infallible in FAITH AND MORALS, BUT ONLY IN FAITH AND MORALS. No, I don't believe that the Catholic Church is infallible in, for example, astronomy, mathematics, medicine, and a host of other things or sciences.
There is something about some people like myself who have had many experiences from a supernatural world that is far superior to our material world. Some people have had only one or two experiences. I have had many. I'm telling you these things despite the fact that I am subjecting myself to redicule. How well I know. But I don't mind. But I hope you'll be as nice to me as I would be to you.
In the beginning, with me, it was only faith, but no more. It is now reality. I know what I have seen, and I know what I have heard. Yes, I have had many experiences in the supernatural. Supernatural means above nature, above what we here perceive in our natural world.
I'm not going to write a whole book here for you, but I will convey to you that there are very beautiful angels. No, angels don't have wings. Muhammad was a madman full of you know what. Yes, the Blessed Mother exists. Yes, God exists, Who is a Supreme Being. I will not go into lengthy explanations or arguments; however I'll leave you with some thoughts. Think of matter. Ask yourself: Is matter eternal? Where did matter come from? How can matter possibly be eternal if it is eternal? Is there something or someone greater than matter?
Be nice. Don't laugh. I was in a protracted war a few years ago. There were many miracles, of course, in the supernatural order during that war. Perhaps there were two or three hundred miracles in all. I and my warriors lost count.
At the end of the war, that I call The War OF Miracles, I asked God to leave a great miracle at a very special spot. Because our Supreme God is generous, He performed this great miracle which is in place now at a certain place that I will not mention at present. Yes, this miracle has converted thousands of people, including atheists.
I'm asking God to perform another miracle by expanding on the miracle that is in place at present. If God does this, and I believe He will some day, you'll hear about it. I'm doing this for the benefit of people who do not believe in a Supreme Being. In the meantime, may the Cause of all causes bless you.
P.S. Yes, God can create out of nothing. I've seen Him do it not one time, not two times, but three times. These are only the small miracles. Perhaps someday I'll be able to tell you of much bigger miracles. My God bless you.
written by david , August 24, 2009
OK. Don't be fooled. It was God's plan for Jesus Christ to be sacrificed- if that was the plan, then the Jews did exactly what they were supposed to do. How is that bad? How does that defame Jews? Also, the New Testament blatantly states that the message of Christ was meant for the Jew first, then to the Gentile. How does that fit in with the whole 'Christ Killer' idea?
It doesn't. Please do NOT lump all Christians in with the small sect of idiots that think Jews are evil for crucifying Christ.
It doesn't. Please do NOT lump all Christians in with the small sect of idiots that think Jews are evil for crucifying Christ.
written by david , August 24, 2009
Ooooo... tough guy.
Your powers of deduction are incredible- I cannot bear to see you sitting in front of a computer monitor with such logical talent! You should be out solving crimes! GO! HURRY!
You write like someone that has never really studied in-depth what you currently mock. You seem to be the kind of person who says 'Well, I think...' and that makes it right. That is a sign of weakness, ignorance, and some real poor discipline when it comes to discussing things. Come on, man- stop acting like a third grader and grow up- learn about what you are discussing before throwing out a pathetic attempt to gain the upperhand with crap like 'i piss on the cross...'
And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice- NOT a representation of God, you idiot. It is NOT an idol- stop trying to make it into one for your own gain in this discussion.
Your powers of deduction are incredible- I cannot bear to see you sitting in front of a computer monitor with such logical talent! You should be out solving crimes! GO! HURRY!
You write like someone that has never really studied in-depth what you currently mock. You seem to be the kind of person who says 'Well, I think...' and that makes it right. That is a sign of weakness, ignorance, and some real poor discipline when it comes to discussing things. Come on, man- stop acting like a third grader and grow up- learn about what you are discussing before throwing out a pathetic attempt to gain the upperhand with crap like 'i piss on the cross...'
And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice- NOT a representation of God, you idiot. It is NOT an idol- stop trying to make it into one for your own gain in this discussion.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"There is something about some people like myself who have had many experiences from a supernatural world that is far superior to our material world. Some people have had only one or two experiences. I have had many. I'm telling you these things despite the fact that I am subjecting myself to redicule."
What pot are you smokin'?
"Is matter eternal? Where did matter come from? How can matter possibly be eternal if it is eternal? Is there something or someone greater than matter?"
It doesn't MATTER. We atheists do not mind for now whether matter is eternal or not. Science will answer that in time. Till then we don't jump to the conclusion that Jesus created matter. What proof do you have that it was not Ganesha or Zeus who created matter?
"Be nice. Don't laugh. "
Ha ha ha. A lunatic raves about supernatural experiences while smoking some shit and you expect us not to laugh. Ridicule is the only way to shake some sense into people when reasoning fails to penetrate.
What pot are you smokin'?
"Is matter eternal? Where did matter come from? How can matter possibly be eternal if it is eternal? Is there something or someone greater than matter?"
It doesn't MATTER. We atheists do not mind for now whether matter is eternal or not. Science will answer that in time. Till then we don't jump to the conclusion that Jesus created matter. What proof do you have that it was not Ganesha or Zeus who created matter?
"Be nice. Don't laugh. "
Ha ha ha. A lunatic raves about supernatural experiences while smoking some shit and you expect us not to laugh. Ridicule is the only way to shake some sense into people when reasoning fails to penetrate.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
The claims of you christians are getting so preposterous that now any day I EXPECT YOU TO CLAIM HITLER WAS A JEW.
Just as Muslims claim that the hotel and jew temple massacre was done by jews against themselves. Blame everyone other than yourselves in order to hide the EVIL OF CHRISTIANITY.
Just as Muslims claim that the hotel and jew temple massacre was done by jews against themselves. Blame everyone other than yourselves in order to hide the EVIL OF CHRISTIANITY.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
Hitler did not gas christians in the millions, he may have gassed a few (less than a hundred) political opponents who happened to be christian but compared to the millions of NON-Christians he gassed the number is trivial proving that Hitler killed them for political reasons rather than religious reasons. It also proves that Hitler was a christian.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"Please do NOT lump all Christians in with the small sect of idiots that think Jews are evil for crucifying Christ."
Show me one example link where some christian organization thanked jews for killing christ and thus making the foundation of christianity possible.
Have you ever given the jews a medal for killing christ?
Show me one example link where some christian organization thanked jews for killing christ and thus making the foundation of christianity possible.
Have you ever given the jews a medal for killing christ?
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"--"The bible is full of murder and killing."--
These are written accounts of violent events in the past relative to Israel's history. You cannot fault the Bible for faithfully recording such events in the same analogy that you cannot blame a newspaper publication for reporting a gruesome murder."
No newspaper ORDERS killing done in order to report it. Plenty of killing in the bible is ORDERED by the BIBLE GOD and if it is then reported it is not just newspaper reporting it is EVIL personified.
These are written accounts of violent events in the past relative to Israel's history. You cannot fault the Bible for faithfully recording such events in the same analogy that you cannot blame a newspaper publication for reporting a gruesome murder."
No newspaper ORDERS killing done in order to report it. Plenty of killing in the bible is ORDERED by the BIBLE GOD and if it is then reported it is not just newspaper reporting it is EVIL personified.
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
The ONLY way to disprove idolatry is through disrespect. If christ is executed today will you wear the electric chair or the hangman's noose around your necks? Why do you idolize a barbaric torture instrument? Aren't you worshiping torture and death and a dead corpse zombie god?
written by a guest , August 24, 2009
"Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparte"
The first two syllables is either Nati or Naso or Nade or NDA not NAZI proving your theory wrong.
Still Jesus is a Nazi for having come from Nazarath what? Your entire cult was formed by a NAZI.
The first two syllables is either Nati or Naso or Nade or NDA not NAZI proving your theory wrong.
Still Jesus is a Nazi for having come from Nazarath what? Your entire cult was formed by a NAZI.
written by continuum , August 25, 2009
And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice- NOT a representation of God, you idiot.
This is meaningless word game.
Definitions of representation on the Web:
* a presentation to the mind in the form of an idea or image
* a creation that is a visual or tangible rendering of someone or something
According to you "cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice" and hence represnt's actions of your god and hence your god. Hence cross is an idol.
It is NOT an idol- stop trying to make it into one for your own gain in this discussion.
It is an idol and represents your god's sacrifice according your own statement. It represents something of your god and hence an idol.
written by David , August 25, 2009
Do you actually listen to yourself when you speak?
i am sure in your own mind you are making some form of sense, but in the real world you are trying to build a point with no substance. You seem to completely misunderstand the entire theological premise of Christianity as it is based in Judaism. Don't even try to get into it- it is obvious you are completely unlearned in theology- and I am expecting you to simply dismiss what you have no concept of, as is typical of people with closed minds who are not interested in learning, but simply pushing their ignorant thoughts.
Also, i bet you are the first and only person to have ever thought of that 'argument.' seriously. no, for real. you are an absolute genius- why are you not the President?
i am sure in your own mind you are making some form of sense, but in the real world you are trying to build a point with no substance. You seem to completely misunderstand the entire theological premise of Christianity as it is based in Judaism. Don't even try to get into it- it is obvious you are completely unlearned in theology- and I am expecting you to simply dismiss what you have no concept of, as is typical of people with closed minds who are not interested in learning, but simply pushing their ignorant thoughts.
Also, i bet you are the first and only person to have ever thought of that 'argument.' seriously. no, for real. you are an absolute genius- why are you not the President?
written by kmgy , August 25, 2009
Your logic have become so muddled. You NEED a long vacation and some mind therapy.
written by kmgy , August 25, 2009
Anti-Christian Violence in India, 1997-2000
Though incidents of violence against Christians have occurred in nearly all parts of India, the violence has been largely confined to north, central, and western India, to the states of Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, and the capital area of New Delhi -- not coincidentally, most of these areas have been under BJP rule in recent years. Some of the more gruesome incidents took place in eastern India, in the state of Orissa. Intimidation of Christians has extended to such acts as arson (the fire-bombing of Churches), the distribution of threatening literature, the forcible reconversion of recent converts back to Hinduism, the burning of Bibles; there have also been incidents, though much fewer in number, involving the rape of nuns and the murder of both Christian priests and missionaries. Cases of physical assault have also been recorded from various parts of the country: on 5 November 1999, 26 students -- not all Christians -- of St. Joseph’s Evening College, Bangalore, were attacked by 40 VHP activists for allegedly converting lower-caste Hindus (the Dalits) to Christianity (Walter Fernandes, "Caste as vested interest", The Hindu [4 January 2000]). In Gujarat alone, where the BJP grip over power is very strong, 22 churches were burnt or destroyed, and another 16 damaged, in 1997. In the following year, 1998, according to the United Christian Forum for Human Rights, 5 nuns were raped, 9 killed, and 25 subjected to physical abuse (see Ravi Arvind Palat, "Violence against Christians in India", New Zealand Herald [26 January 1999]; also V. Venkatesan, "A pattern of persecution", Frontline 15, no. 26 [19 December 1998]). In mid-June 2000, four churches in different parts of India were bombed, while in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh, church graves were desecrated. In the same month, a church in Maharashtra was ransacked, and an evangelist working for the India Campus Crusade for Christ was found stabbed to death at his home (see Robert Marquand, "In India, a Pattern of Attacks on Christians", Christian Science Monitor ([29 June 2000]).
The entire country was shocked in January 1999 when an Australian Baptist missionary, Graham Staines, was murdered along with his two sons by being burnt alive inside a locked car. Staines had lived in India for the greater part of his life, and was working among lepers in Orissa, one of India’s most deprived regions (see the Human Rights Report and State Department Report, as cited below). His assailant, a Hindu militant by the name of Dara Singh, went around boasting about his deed, and even gave television interviews, while the police claimed that he could not be found. On 7 June 2000, the Catholic priest, George Kuzhikandam, was murdered in his sleep in a church in Mathura in Uttar Pradesh. The church cook, Vijay Ekka, who slept near the murdered clergyman and first reported the murder, was taken away by the police for interrogation, and himself died in police custody. Though the police claimed he had committed suicide, the autopsy indicated that he had been strangled. It is widely believed that the cook was silenced.
The evidence for violence against Christians in India is consequently incontrovertible. There are numerous compilations of atrocities perpetrated upon Christians, and they suggest an alarming pattern of violence: the intimidation of priests; threats placed against Christian schools; false allegations against Christian priests; the destruction of Christian institutions, such as the Damian Leprosy Hospital complex run by Catholic nuns for 31 years; attacks upon churches; assault upon Christian nuns and pastors, such as in the city of Jhansi on 2 May 2000; the distribution of scurrilous literature; and murder of Christians.
Though incidents of violence against Christians have occurred in nearly all parts of India, the violence has been largely confined to north, central, and western India, to the states of Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, and the capital area of New Delhi -- not coincidentally, most of these areas have been under BJP rule in recent years. Some of the more gruesome incidents took place in eastern India, in the state of Orissa. Intimidation of Christians has extended to such acts as arson (the fire-bombing of Churches), the distribution of threatening literature, the forcible reconversion of recent converts back to Hinduism, the burning of Bibles; there have also been incidents, though much fewer in number, involving the rape of nuns and the murder of both Christian priests and missionaries. Cases of physical assault have also been recorded from various parts of the country: on 5 November 1999, 26 students -- not all Christians -- of St. Joseph’s Evening College, Bangalore, were attacked by 40 VHP activists for allegedly converting lower-caste Hindus (the Dalits) to Christianity (Walter Fernandes, "Caste as vested interest", The Hindu [4 January 2000]). In Gujarat alone, where the BJP grip over power is very strong, 22 churches were burnt or destroyed, and another 16 damaged, in 1997. In the following year, 1998, according to the United Christian Forum for Human Rights, 5 nuns were raped, 9 killed, and 25 subjected to physical abuse (see Ravi Arvind Palat, "Violence against Christians in India", New Zealand Herald [26 January 1999]; also V. Venkatesan, "A pattern of persecution", Frontline 15, no. 26 [19 December 1998]). In mid-June 2000, four churches in different parts of India were bombed, while in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh, church graves were desecrated. In the same month, a church in Maharashtra was ransacked, and an evangelist working for the India Campus Crusade for Christ was found stabbed to death at his home (see Robert Marquand, "In India, a Pattern of Attacks on Christians", Christian Science Monitor ([29 June 2000]).
The entire country was shocked in January 1999 when an Australian Baptist missionary, Graham Staines, was murdered along with his two sons by being burnt alive inside a locked car. Staines had lived in India for the greater part of his life, and was working among lepers in Orissa, one of India’s most deprived regions (see the Human Rights Report and State Department Report, as cited below). His assailant, a Hindu militant by the name of Dara Singh, went around boasting about his deed, and even gave television interviews, while the police claimed that he could not be found. On 7 June 2000, the Catholic priest, George Kuzhikandam, was murdered in his sleep in a church in Mathura in Uttar Pradesh. The church cook, Vijay Ekka, who slept near the murdered clergyman and first reported the murder, was taken away by the police for interrogation, and himself died in police custody. Though the police claimed he had committed suicide, the autopsy indicated that he had been strangled. It is widely believed that the cook was silenced.
The evidence for violence against Christians in India is consequently incontrovertible. There are numerous compilations of atrocities perpetrated upon Christians, and they suggest an alarming pattern of violence: the intimidation of priests; threats placed against Christian schools; false allegations against Christian priests; the destruction of Christian institutions, such as the Damian Leprosy Hospital complex run by Catholic nuns for 31 years; attacks upon churches; assault upon Christian nuns and pastors, such as in the city of Jhansi on 2 May 2000; the distribution of scurrilous literature; and murder of Christians.
written by kmgy , August 25, 2009
Radical religious extremist outfits such as the VHP and the RSS, both associated with the Bharatiya Janata Party, have “unleashed a wave of unprecedented level of violence and bloodshed against Christians in Orissa and Karnataka for the past several weeks
At least 49 Christian priests, nuns and members of local congregations were killed and over 300 churches, besides a number of convents/orphanages, were burnt or destroyed
For several years, extremist Hindu groups in Orissa have been conducting an anti-Christian campaign that has grown violent at times, while government officials have looked the other way.
In January 1999, Hindu militants in Orissa trapped Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons in their car and burned them alive.
The hate of the VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad), a Hindu fundamentalist group is growing against Catholics and Christians.
Murder and torture and burning have started started. Thousands of Catholics, including nuns and priests, have fled to the jungle to save their lives. The VHP have threatened to kill them.
The CBCI released an updated list of devastations in the eastern State of Orissa . According to this data, 26 were killed, and many more were injured. At least 41 churches (Catholic and Protestant) were destroyed, 4,014 houses were damaged, 6 convents, five hostels and youth residences, six Catholic volunteer institutes were devastated, and hundreds of cars and other belongings were set on fire during the raids carried out by Hindu fundamentalists. "The protest is meant to highlight the slaughter of Christians in Orissa, which has been made worse by the incapability of the central government to stop violence at a time when anti-Christian sentiments are growing and the faithful are tortured and killed,"
A tragedy took place where a priest and a sister were hidden behind the pastoral center. The Hindu mob broke into the house and dragged them outside. “They began our crucifixion parade,” said Father Chellen. “The gang of about 50 armed Hindus beat us up and led us like culprits along the road to the burned pastoral center. There they tore my shirt and started pulling off the clothes of the nun. When I protested, they beat me hard with iron rods. Later they took the nun inside and raped her while they went on kicking and teasing me, forcing me to say vulgar words" said the priest, who has cuts, bruises and whose whole body was swollen, with stitches on his face. “Later, both of us, half naked, were taken to the streets, and they ordered me to have sex with the nun in public, saying nuns and priests do it. As I refused, they went on beating me, and dragged us to the nearby government office. Sadly, dozens of policemen were watching all this,” he said. Angry at his plea to the police for help, the mob beat the bleeding priest again.
At least 49 Christian priests, nuns and members of local congregations were killed and over 300 churches, besides a number of convents/orphanages, were burnt or destroyed
For several years, extremist Hindu groups in Orissa have been conducting an anti-Christian campaign that has grown violent at times, while government officials have looked the other way.
In January 1999, Hindu militants in Orissa trapped Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons in their car and burned them alive.
The hate of the VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad), a Hindu fundamentalist group is growing against Catholics and Christians.
Murder and torture and burning have started started. Thousands of Catholics, including nuns and priests, have fled to the jungle to save their lives. The VHP have threatened to kill them.
The CBCI released an updated list of devastations in the eastern State of Orissa . According to this data, 26 were killed, and many more were injured. At least 41 churches (Catholic and Protestant) were destroyed, 4,014 houses were damaged, 6 convents, five hostels and youth residences, six Catholic volunteer institutes were devastated, and hundreds of cars and other belongings were set on fire during the raids carried out by Hindu fundamentalists. "The protest is meant to highlight the slaughter of Christians in Orissa, which has been made worse by the incapability of the central government to stop violence at a time when anti-Christian sentiments are growing and the faithful are tortured and killed,"
A tragedy took place where a priest and a sister were hidden behind the pastoral center. The Hindu mob broke into the house and dragged them outside. “They began our crucifixion parade,” said Father Chellen. “The gang of about 50 armed Hindus beat us up and led us like culprits along the road to the burned pastoral center. There they tore my shirt and started pulling off the clothes of the nun. When I protested, they beat me hard with iron rods. Later they took the nun inside and raped her while they went on kicking and teasing me, forcing me to say vulgar words" said the priest, who has cuts, bruises and whose whole body was swollen, with stitches on his face. “Later, both of us, half naked, were taken to the streets, and they ordered me to have sex with the nun in public, saying nuns and priests do it. As I refused, they went on beating me, and dragged us to the nearby government office. Sadly, dozens of policemen were watching all this,” he said. Angry at his plea to the police for help, the mob beat the bleeding priest again.
written by David , August 25, 2009
uh, are you insinuating that I pray TO the cross? that would make it an 'idol.'
written by David , August 25, 2009
5.1–6.0 million Jews, including 3.0–3.5 million Polish Jews
1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles (includes all those killed in executions or those that died in prisons, labor, and concentration camps, as well as civilians killed in the 1939 invasion and the 1944 Warsaw Uprising)
500,000–1.2 million Serbs killed by Croat Nazis
200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti
200,000–300,000 people with disabilities
80,000–200,000 Freemasons [23]
100,000 communists
10,000–25,000 homosexual men
2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles (includes all those killed in executions or those that died in prisons, labor, and concentration camps, as well as civilians killed in the 1939 invasion and the 1944 Warsaw Uprising)
500,000–1.2 million Serbs killed by Croat Nazis
200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti
200,000–300,000 people with disabilities
80,000–200,000 Freemasons [23]
100,000 communists
10,000–25,000 homosexual men
2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
written by infidel hottie , August 25, 2009
"Hitler did not gas even a single christian"
seriously dude.. how can you type this bullshit and look at yourself in the mirror..? this is simply NOT TRUE..!! millions of Christians died during the holocaust Poland alone lost 1/5 of its population! they were Catholics btw..! my gah! you're such a LIAR I seriously doubt the rest of your statements you have lost all credibility can't even do a single google search.. have you ever BEEN to your local library even??
seriously dude.. how can you type this bullshit and look at yourself in the mirror..? this is simply NOT TRUE..!! millions of Christians died during the holocaust Poland alone lost 1/5 of its population! they were Catholics btw..! my gah! you're such a LIAR I seriously doubt the rest of your statements you have lost all credibility can't even do a single google search.. have you ever BEEN to your local library even??
written by f**k off anonymous , August 25, 2009
your statements are flawed, baseless and misleading you sir are grasping at straws!!! and you just contradicted yourself "hitler never gassed Chrisitans" "hitler may have gassed a few Christians" which is it? you are a liar and fraud I guess you don't bother to cross check your "facts" you have effectively shot yourself in the foot I hope you rot.
written by David , August 25, 2009
THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD; Part 1
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU MUST UNDERSTAND ABOUT ISLAM IS THAT – ALL Muslims believe the Koran is the ETERNAL divine word of God – the LAWS OF GOD - that God authored the Koran and a copy of the Koran is in heaven. The Koran remains for all Muslims, not just "fundamentalists," the uncreated word of God Himself. It is valid for all times and places FOREVER; its ideas are absolutely true and beyond all criticism. To question it is to question the very word of God, and hence blasphemous. A Muslim's duty is to believe it and obey its divine commands without question.
The greatest evil that anyone can commit is acts of violence against human beings in the name of and to the greater glory of God. The second greatest evil that can be committed is to preach evil in the name of God inciting violence against human beings.
ALL TEACHINGS OF GOD - A PERFECT GOD - MUST BE PERFECT. ANY WRITINGS IN ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT THAT ARE NOT PERFECT – ARE NOT PERFECTION - ARE NOT THE TEACHINGS OF GOD BUT THE TEACHINGS OF MAN
In order for the Koran to be the divine word of God - every word, every teaching must be PERFECT. Since God is PERFECT every word, every teaching of God – A PERFECT GOD must be PERFECT. Every word – every teaching must be non violent. There can be no words of hate – no hateful teachings. Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Koran is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God. God cannot have some PERFECT teachings and other teachings that are IMPERFECT. In order to be the divine word of God, the entire Koran must be a work of PERFECTION – the PERFECT word/teachings of a PERFECT God. All teachings in the Koran and all Islamic texts (written or verbal) that are not PERFECT – that are not PERFECTION are not the teachings of God - A PERFECT GOD but the teachings of man – the teachings of ALLAH (the ANTI GOD.)
This means that all teachings recorded in the Koran and all other Islamic texts, revelations, writings, sayings, fatwa’s - of war, murder, killing, death and destruction, violence, terror, rape, hate, violent jihad, terrorism, torture, brutality, savagery, maiming, wife beating, inferiority of woman, women as instruments of sexual pleasure in paradise, honor killings, stoning, cutting off limbs, child sex, sharia law, bigotry, intolerance, extortion, slavery, mutilations, looting, pillaging, sexual depravity, child molestation, oppression and subordination of women, inferiority of woman, women as instruments of sexual pleasure in paradise, wife beating, honor killings, inequality of infidels, inequality of any human being, that infidels can be murdered and their property stolen as a holy duty, that Muslims who renounce Islam can be killed, that Muslims (or anyone) who challenge the teachings of Islam can be murdered, that believers who slay and are slain in the service of God will ascend to a sexual Paradise of lustrous eyed, full breasted virgins who they can sexually molest for all eternity etc are IMMORAL, EVIL AND IRRATIONAL AND NOT THE PERFECT TEACHINGS OF GOD – A PERFECT GOD – A GOD OF PERFECTION - A GOD OF ALL PURE LOVE AND PEACE – BUT THE TEACHINGS OF ALLAH (THE ANTI GOD) THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD
THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD; PART 2
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
AGAIN, GOD IS NOT AN IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL BEING. IF GOD IS IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL THEN GOD IS NOT PERFECT AND THEREFORE SINCE GOD CANNOT BE IMPERFECT AN IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL GOD IS NOT GOD
No God who is God would ever preach that killing and murdering of any human being in His name will be rewarded by accession to Paradise. You cannot climb to heaven on the corpses of the murdered.
As has already been stated at the beginning of this website – Muslims believe that the Koran is the ETERNAL word/teachings of God. Infidels can be murdered by Muslims as an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD. Not only can they all be murdered but the wives and daughters of the murdered infidels can be taken as booty, raped, and then sold as slaves. That’s right - God permits the raping of female slaves. As we have already seen - in Islam rape is not a only a sexual weapon – it is a weapon of war. Having murdered the woman’s man, Muslims can now - sanctioned by the LAWS OF GOD complete their final humiliation and domination of her body. Her sons can be sold into slavery. These infidel women can then be bred like cattle and their off spring sold for profit.
As an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD recorded in the Koran, Muslims can loot and pillage the property of the murdered infidels, and must share 1/5 of the booty obtained from the sale of boys and women and the proceeds of looting with God keeping 80% for themselves. If there was no violence involved in the conquest, then Muhammad was allowed by an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD to keep 100% of the looted booty.
Muslims can own slaves as an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD. Slavery has been an integral institutionalized part of Islam since it’s creation by Muhammad. Muhammad owned 40 slaves.
Muhammad was allowed by a ETERNAL LAW OF God to rape his slaves. ALLTHIS EVIL ARE THE LAWS OF GOD AS SET DOWN IN THE KORAN. Not only that but righteous Muslims who slay and are slain in the service of God can ascend as martyrs to the evil sexually depraved Islamic Paradise of eternal erections and virgins who re - generate as virgins after each sex act. THIS IS THEIR ETERNAL REWARD FOR OBEYING THESE EVIL LAWS OF GOD.
To record in a so called Holy Book – the Koran - teachings of war, rape, slavery, looting, pillaging, hate, terror, etc is a very great evil. Just declaring that such immoral, evil teachings in the Koran are the ETERNAL divine word of God is evil incarnate and an obscenity against everything God stands for – a blasphemy and a crime against God himself.
KILLING, MURDER, SLAUGHTER, RAPE, LOOTING ARE ALL CRIMES TO ALL NORMAL RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS. MURDER IS NOT A MULTI CULTURAL DIFFERENCE. RELIGION IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEST OF MANKIND NOT THE WORST.
Therefore the Koran is not the word/teachings of God.
NOT ONE WORD IN THE KORAN OR ANY OTHER ISLAMIC TEXT IS FROM GOD.
THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD; PART 3
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
SUMMARIZING:
NO GOD WHO IS TRULY GOD WOULD EVER SPEW SUCH PURE VIOLENCE, HATRED AND INTOLERANCE. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A RELIGION OF WAR, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH TEACHINGS OF MURDER, TORTURE, AND CRUELTY.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER ALLOW ANY HUMAN BEING TO BE THE SLAVE OF ANOTHER. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT WOMEN AND CHILDREN CAN BE SOLD INTO SLAVERY AS PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMAND THE PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY, LOOTING AND PILLAGING. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THE RAPE OF SLAVE WOMEN. TO HAVE GOD GO TO WAR ON BEHALF OF HIS BELIEVERS IS EVIL AND A VERY GREAT SIN AGAINST GOD. TO HAVE GOD SEND HOLY ANGELS INTO BATTLE AS INSTRUMENTS OF MURDER, WAR, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IS CRIMINAL.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT INFIDELS CAN BE MURDERED AS A HOLY DUTY, THAT MUSLIMS WHO RENOUNCE ISLAM CAN BE KILLED, THAT MUSLIMS (OR ANYONE) WHO CHALLENGE THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN BE MURDERED. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH THAT KILLING AND MURDERING OF ANY HUMAN BEING IN HIS NAME WILL BE REWARDED BY ACCESSION TO PARADISE. IF GOD COMMANDED THAT INFIDELS (OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING) BE KILLED THEN HE WOULD BE IRRATIONAL AND EVIL AND NO LONGER PERFECT – NO LONGER GOD. IF ANY TEACHING OF GOD INCITES VIOLENCE THAT LEADS TO THE KILLING OF ANY HUMAN BEING THEN GOD IS AN ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER AND THEREFORE NO LONGER GOD.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A SEXUALLY DEPRAVED PARADISE OF FULL BREASTED, LUSTROUS EYED VIRGIN NYMPHS FOR SUICIDE BOMBERS, TERRORISTS, MURDERERS TO MOLEST FOR ALL ETERNITY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMONIZE, OPPRESS AND SUBORDINATE WOMEN MAKING THEM TOTALLY INFERIOR TO MEN – WORTH ½ A HUMAN BEING.
THE ALLAH OF THE KORAN NEVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN THE MIND OF MUHAMMAD. THERE NEVER WERE ANY REVELATIONS FROM ALLAH TO MUHAMMAD. THE KORAN IS THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD - THE TEACHINGS OF ALLAH (THE ANTI GOD). BEING THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD AND NOT GOD - ISLAM IS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY BOGUS - A SHAM AND A FRAUD
The above LAWS OF ALLAH destroys Islam's religious credentials, Muhammad's authority, and Allah's credibility. ALLAH justifying violent criminal acts to satisfy a prophet's financial lust is unfathomable. If we are to believe Muhammad, ALLAH approved murder, terror, thievery, and kidnapping for ransom. This is immoral. An immoral god cannot be trusted. An immoral deity isn't worthy of a religion, devotion, sacrifice, or martyrdom. Since God is PERFECTION – He cannot be immoral and still be God. As stated previously, Allah (the ANTIGOD) never existed. The immoral, irrational, evil Allah (the ANTI GOD) of the Koran was the creation of Muhammad. He created Allah (the ANTI GOD) of the Koran. He created Islam. He created the evil LAWS OF ALLAH. MUHAMMAD WAS ALLAH AND ALLAH WAS MUHAMMAD.
The same is true for an immoral prophet. The only thing more devastating than a man professing situational scriptures to legitimize terror, murder, robbery, and kidnapping for ransom is to lure billions to their doom by implying these words were inspired by God. Islam was nothing more than a cover for immoral financial gain. Muhammad was a murderous con man.
Following in website - www.godofreason.com are close to 1000 teachings of the Koran that are not only IMPERFECT BUT ARE EVIL. UNTIL THESE TEACHINGS ARE RENOUNCED, DENOUNCED AND REMOVED FROM THE KORAN, IT WILL BE A BOOK OF EVIL. AND ISLAM WILL BE EVIL - EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD.
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU MUST UNDERSTAND ABOUT ISLAM IS THAT – ALL Muslims believe the Koran is the ETERNAL divine word of God – the LAWS OF GOD - that God authored the Koran and a copy of the Koran is in heaven. The Koran remains for all Muslims, not just "fundamentalists," the uncreated word of God Himself. It is valid for all times and places FOREVER; its ideas are absolutely true and beyond all criticism. To question it is to question the very word of God, and hence blasphemous. A Muslim's duty is to believe it and obey its divine commands without question.
The greatest evil that anyone can commit is acts of violence against human beings in the name of and to the greater glory of God. The second greatest evil that can be committed is to preach evil in the name of God inciting violence against human beings.
ALL TEACHINGS OF GOD - A PERFECT GOD - MUST BE PERFECT. ANY WRITINGS IN ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT THAT ARE NOT PERFECT – ARE NOT PERFECTION - ARE NOT THE TEACHINGS OF GOD BUT THE TEACHINGS OF MAN
In order for the Koran to be the divine word of God - every word, every teaching must be PERFECT. Since God is PERFECT every word, every teaching of God – A PERFECT GOD must be PERFECT. Every word – every teaching must be non violent. There can be no words of hate – no hateful teachings. Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Koran is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God. God cannot have some PERFECT teachings and other teachings that are IMPERFECT. In order to be the divine word of God, the entire Koran must be a work of PERFECTION – the PERFECT word/teachings of a PERFECT God. All teachings in the Koran and all Islamic texts (written or verbal) that are not PERFECT – that are not PERFECTION are not the teachings of God - A PERFECT GOD but the teachings of man – the teachings of ALLAH (the ANTI GOD.)
This means that all teachings recorded in the Koran and all other Islamic texts, revelations, writings, sayings, fatwa’s - of war, murder, killing, death and destruction, violence, terror, rape, hate, violent jihad, terrorism, torture, brutality, savagery, maiming, wife beating, inferiority of woman, women as instruments of sexual pleasure in paradise, honor killings, stoning, cutting off limbs, child sex, sharia law, bigotry, intolerance, extortion, slavery, mutilations, looting, pillaging, sexual depravity, child molestation, oppression and subordination of women, inferiority of woman, women as instruments of sexual pleasure in paradise, wife beating, honor killings, inequality of infidels, inequality of any human being, that infidels can be murdered and their property stolen as a holy duty, that Muslims who renounce Islam can be killed, that Muslims (or anyone) who challenge the teachings of Islam can be murdered, that believers who slay and are slain in the service of God will ascend to a sexual Paradise of lustrous eyed, full breasted virgins who they can sexually molest for all eternity etc are IMMORAL, EVIL AND IRRATIONAL AND NOT THE PERFECT TEACHINGS OF GOD – A PERFECT GOD – A GOD OF PERFECTION - A GOD OF ALL PURE LOVE AND PEACE – BUT THE TEACHINGS OF ALLAH (THE ANTI GOD) THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD
THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD; PART 2
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
AGAIN, GOD IS NOT AN IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL BEING. IF GOD IS IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL THEN GOD IS NOT PERFECT AND THEREFORE SINCE GOD CANNOT BE IMPERFECT AN IRRATIONAL, IMMORAL, EVIL GOD IS NOT GOD
No God who is God would ever preach that killing and murdering of any human being in His name will be rewarded by accession to Paradise. You cannot climb to heaven on the corpses of the murdered.
As has already been stated at the beginning of this website – Muslims believe that the Koran is the ETERNAL word/teachings of God. Infidels can be murdered by Muslims as an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD. Not only can they all be murdered but the wives and daughters of the murdered infidels can be taken as booty, raped, and then sold as slaves. That’s right - God permits the raping of female slaves. As we have already seen - in Islam rape is not a only a sexual weapon – it is a weapon of war. Having murdered the woman’s man, Muslims can now - sanctioned by the LAWS OF GOD complete their final humiliation and domination of her body. Her sons can be sold into slavery. These infidel women can then be bred like cattle and their off spring sold for profit.
As an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD recorded in the Koran, Muslims can loot and pillage the property of the murdered infidels, and must share 1/5 of the booty obtained from the sale of boys and women and the proceeds of looting with God keeping 80% for themselves. If there was no violence involved in the conquest, then Muhammad was allowed by an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD to keep 100% of the looted booty.
Muslims can own slaves as an ETERNAL LAW OF GOD. Slavery has been an integral institutionalized part of Islam since it’s creation by Muhammad. Muhammad owned 40 slaves.
Muhammad was allowed by a ETERNAL LAW OF God to rape his slaves. ALLTHIS EVIL ARE THE LAWS OF GOD AS SET DOWN IN THE KORAN. Not only that but righteous Muslims who slay and are slain in the service of God can ascend as martyrs to the evil sexually depraved Islamic Paradise of eternal erections and virgins who re - generate as virgins after each sex act. THIS IS THEIR ETERNAL REWARD FOR OBEYING THESE EVIL LAWS OF GOD.
To record in a so called Holy Book – the Koran - teachings of war, rape, slavery, looting, pillaging, hate, terror, etc is a very great evil. Just declaring that such immoral, evil teachings in the Koran are the ETERNAL divine word of God is evil incarnate and an obscenity against everything God stands for – a blasphemy and a crime against God himself.
KILLING, MURDER, SLAUGHTER, RAPE, LOOTING ARE ALL CRIMES TO ALL NORMAL RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS. MURDER IS NOT A MULTI CULTURAL DIFFERENCE. RELIGION IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEST OF MANKIND NOT THE WORST.
Therefore the Koran is not the word/teachings of God.
NOT ONE WORD IN THE KORAN OR ANY OTHER ISLAMIC TEXT IS FROM GOD.
THE KORAN IS NOT THE WORD/TEACHINGS OF GOD; PART 3
By
Larry Houle
www.godofreason.com
SUMMARIZING:
NO GOD WHO IS TRULY GOD WOULD EVER SPEW SUCH PURE VIOLENCE, HATRED AND INTOLERANCE. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A RELIGION OF WAR, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH TEACHINGS OF MURDER, TORTURE, AND CRUELTY.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER ALLOW ANY HUMAN BEING TO BE THE SLAVE OF ANOTHER. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT WOMEN AND CHILDREN CAN BE SOLD INTO SLAVERY AS PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMAND THE PROCEEDS OF WAR BOOTY, LOOTING AND PILLAGING. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THE RAPE OF SLAVE WOMEN. TO HAVE GOD GO TO WAR ON BEHALF OF HIS BELIEVERS IS EVIL AND A VERY GREAT SIN AGAINST GOD. TO HAVE GOD SEND HOLY ANGELS INTO BATTLE AS INSTRUMENTS OF MURDER, WAR, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IS CRIMINAL.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER TEACH THAT INFIDELS CAN BE MURDERED AS A HOLY DUTY, THAT MUSLIMS WHO RENOUNCE ISLAM CAN BE KILLED, THAT MUSLIMS (OR ANYONE) WHO CHALLENGE THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN BE MURDERED. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER PREACH THAT KILLING AND MURDERING OF ANY HUMAN BEING IN HIS NAME WILL BE REWARDED BY ACCESSION TO PARADISE. IF GOD COMMANDED THAT INFIDELS (OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING) BE KILLED THEN HE WOULD BE IRRATIONAL AND EVIL AND NO LONGER PERFECT – NO LONGER GOD. IF ANY TEACHING OF GOD INCITES VIOLENCE THAT LEADS TO THE KILLING OF ANY HUMAN BEING THEN GOD IS AN ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER AND THEREFORE NO LONGER GOD.
NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER CREATE A SEXUALLY DEPRAVED PARADISE OF FULL BREASTED, LUSTROUS EYED VIRGIN NYMPHS FOR SUICIDE BOMBERS, TERRORISTS, MURDERERS TO MOLEST FOR ALL ETERNITY. NO GOD WHO IS GOD WOULD EVER DEMONIZE, OPPRESS AND SUBORDINATE WOMEN MAKING THEM TOTALLY INFERIOR TO MEN – WORTH ½ A HUMAN BEING.
THE ALLAH OF THE KORAN NEVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN THE MIND OF MUHAMMAD. THERE NEVER WERE ANY REVELATIONS FROM ALLAH TO MUHAMMAD. THE KORAN IS THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD - THE TEACHINGS OF ALLAH (THE ANTI GOD). BEING THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD AND NOT GOD - ISLAM IS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY BOGUS - A SHAM AND A FRAUD
The above LAWS OF ALLAH destroys Islam's religious credentials, Muhammad's authority, and Allah's credibility. ALLAH justifying violent criminal acts to satisfy a prophet's financial lust is unfathomable. If we are to believe Muhammad, ALLAH approved murder, terror, thievery, and kidnapping for ransom. This is immoral. An immoral god cannot be trusted. An immoral deity isn't worthy of a religion, devotion, sacrifice, or martyrdom. Since God is PERFECTION – He cannot be immoral and still be God. As stated previously, Allah (the ANTIGOD) never existed. The immoral, irrational, evil Allah (the ANTI GOD) of the Koran was the creation of Muhammad. He created Allah (the ANTI GOD) of the Koran. He created Islam. He created the evil LAWS OF ALLAH. MUHAMMAD WAS ALLAH AND ALLAH WAS MUHAMMAD.
The same is true for an immoral prophet. The only thing more devastating than a man professing situational scriptures to legitimize terror, murder, robbery, and kidnapping for ransom is to lure billions to their doom by implying these words were inspired by God. Islam was nothing more than a cover for immoral financial gain. Muhammad was a murderous con man.
Following in website - www.godofreason.com are close to 1000 teachings of the Koran that are not only IMPERFECT BUT ARE EVIL. UNTIL THESE TEACHINGS ARE RENOUNCED, DENOUNCED AND REMOVED FROM THE KORAN, IT WILL BE A BOOK OF EVIL. AND ISLAM WILL BE EVIL - EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD.
written by continuum , August 25, 2009
There are reasons for Hindus in India to react this way. All one has to remember is the 2000 year history of Hindus who gave shelter to all religious people who were persecuted, including Christians for over 1600 years in India.
Now the question is why Hindus are reacting this way. VHP, Bajrang dal and other political pro-Hindu orgs are a reaction to prolonged attacks on Hindus for over 200 years by christian missionaries and organizations. They also attack violently muslims. This is because the Indian government has not protected Hindus from these xian and islamic missionaries preying on Hindus.
The case in point is the pathetic condition of Hindus in kashmir, Nagaland, Tripura, kerala, West Bengal etc.
In addition christian missionaries have tried to disturb the peace in BJP ruled states by disseminating provocative literature against Hindus and Hinduism calling them devil worshipers and brainwashing converts with utter hatred.
Note that Hindus never attack Buddhists when they convert Hindus or Jains or Sikhs or Jews or atheists. Why is it they attack only christians and Muslims? There is a valid reason, because Hindus were attacked by these groups first and they are merely reacting with violence when things go too far.
1. Talking about Gujarat, christian churches teach their followers that Hindus are untouchables and that christians should not even share the same village with them. The following videos will prove my point. One of the christian converts who reverted to Hinduism explains what these christian missionaries teach them. These missionaries ofcourse teach the converts that Hindus are less than human and that they are devil worshipers. With such teachings going on no wonder you will find violent reaction from Hindus some time or other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Zxjndf0mw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkvdtzk1pbo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Jok2Jzt3s&feature=related
2. The story of Orissa runs for last 200 years. British monarchy with their missionaries have engaged in demonizing Hindus and Hinduism for 200 years of their rule. After independence, missionaries from New Zealand and Australia, and UK started pouring in to convert certain Hindu tribes.
The recent clashes are between scheduled tribes, certain tribes that ar3e Hindus and another tribe that is Christian. The following BBC link gives a balanced view.
The decade old conflict included physically violent attacks on Hindu leaders by christian tribesmen, including acid attacks and burning Hindus alive under the direction of missionaries. This violence reached peak when Swami Laxmananda, an 80 year old Hindu holy man, being killed by hired mercenaries of christian missionaries. These were maoist terrorists who were always anti-Hindu and both christian missionaries and they joined for monetary and other benefits.
3. Violence in Karnataka
This is also preceded by illegal activities like taking over legally owned lands of Jains and Hindus to build churches, planting crosses all over the city and threats from christians, throwing stones on Hindus near christian neigborhoods, including dissemination of hate filled literature by missionaries. The following videos prove all allegations.
Christian aggression in Cauvery Layout, India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8woHykQgB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICWHHOcYPVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5v0IGoa10k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmeE_2SDhSw
The above videos show legal documents of land being owned by a Jain businessman and whose land was illegally usurped by church and where a christian church was illegally built. Dure to the political clout these christians have and support from christian leader (Sonia Maino Gandhi, an Italian) of congress, the ruling party, they even issue physical threats on Hindus who do not convert. The then ruling party congress in the state did not even take legal actions against christians.
Every violent act of hindus is preceded by a series of prolonged violent and abusive attacks against Hindus by christians and muslims. When Hindus react it becomes headlines in news, but when thousands of Hindus suffer violent attacks on them no news media even reports then nor the government protects them. Hindus have no other choice but to react violently when all other means were tried and failed to protect them.
Now the question is why Hindus are reacting this way. VHP, Bajrang dal and other political pro-Hindu orgs are a reaction to prolonged attacks on Hindus for over 200 years by christian missionaries and organizations. They also attack violently muslims. This is because the Indian government has not protected Hindus from these xian and islamic missionaries preying on Hindus.
The case in point is the pathetic condition of Hindus in kashmir, Nagaland, Tripura, kerala, West Bengal etc.
In addition christian missionaries have tried to disturb the peace in BJP ruled states by disseminating provocative literature against Hindus and Hinduism calling them devil worshipers and brainwashing converts with utter hatred.
Note that Hindus never attack Buddhists when they convert Hindus or Jains or Sikhs or Jews or atheists. Why is it they attack only christians and Muslims? There is a valid reason, because Hindus were attacked by these groups first and they are merely reacting with violence when things go too far.
1. Talking about Gujarat, christian churches teach their followers that Hindus are untouchables and that christians should not even share the same village with them. The following videos will prove my point. One of the christian converts who reverted to Hinduism explains what these christian missionaries teach them. These missionaries ofcourse teach the converts that Hindus are less than human and that they are devil worshipers. With such teachings going on no wonder you will find violent reaction from Hindus some time or other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Zxjndf0mw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkvdtzk1pbo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Jok2Jzt3s&feature=related
2. The story of Orissa runs for last 200 years. British monarchy with their missionaries have engaged in demonizing Hindus and Hinduism for 200 years of their rule. After independence, missionaries from New Zealand and Australia, and UK started pouring in to convert certain Hindu tribes.
The recent clashes are between scheduled tribes, certain tribes that ar3e Hindus and another tribe that is Christian. The following BBC link gives a balanced view.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/south_asia/7637087.stm
The popular narrative is that the conflict is all about tribes people, egged on by radical Hindu groups, targeting the Christian community to put an end to the church and its growing influence in the region.
But that is only a small part of Kandhamal's tangled conflict. To describe it as a war over religion is to simplify it, say analysts and officials.
A house attack in the anti-Christian riots in Kandhamal
They say it is essentially a decades-old conflict over identity, rights and entitlements.
The decade old conflict included physically violent attacks on Hindu leaders by christian tribesmen, including acid attacks and burning Hindus alive under the direction of missionaries. This violence reached peak when Swami Laxmananda, an 80 year old Hindu holy man, being killed by hired mercenaries of christian missionaries. These were maoist terrorists who were always anti-Hindu and both christian missionaries and they joined for monetary and other benefits.
3. Violence in Karnataka
This is also preceded by illegal activities like taking over legally owned lands of Jains and Hindus to build churches, planting crosses all over the city and threats from christians, throwing stones on Hindus near christian neigborhoods, including dissemination of hate filled literature by missionaries. The following videos prove all allegations.
Christian aggression in Cauvery Layout, India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8woHykQgB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICWHHOcYPVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5v0IGoa10k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmeE_2SDhSw
The above videos show legal documents of land being owned by a Jain businessman and whose land was illegally usurped by church and where a christian church was illegally built. Dure to the political clout these christians have and support from christian leader (Sonia Maino Gandhi, an Italian) of congress, the ruling party, they even issue physical threats on Hindus who do not convert. The then ruling party congress in the state did not even take legal actions against christians.
Every violent act of hindus is preceded by a series of prolonged violent and abusive attacks against Hindus by christians and muslims. When Hindus react it becomes headlines in news, but when thousands of Hindus suffer violent attacks on them no news media even reports then nor the government protects them. Hindus have no other choice but to react violently when all other means were tried and failed to protect them.
written by continuum , August 25, 2009
In short there are some points to note.
1. I have shown organized christian terrorist attacks on Hindus like that of NLFT, hired mercenaries attacking Hindu leaders and other forms of attacks on Hindus, Buddhists by Christian churches as part of their religious belief. This includes desecrating Hindu and Buddhist worship places without provocation of any kind from Hindus or Buddhists.
2. On the other hand, any violent acts of Hindus against christians or Muslims is always preceded by a provocative act of christians or Muslims, including physically violent acts of terrorism, assassination of Hindu leaders with Maoist elements etc.
3. No traditional or authentic Hindu schools ever preach its population to act violently even if violently attacked. The political Hindu orgs like VHP, Bajrang Dal etc. that involve also do not approve the violent acts from its top leadership completely. Often local Hindus, after reaching their limit of patience often act violently making their own decisions to do so.
The violence in Orissa and Karnataka was fueled by the insensitive and violent acts of Christians against Hindus under the instigation of missionaries. No single organization can whip all the Hindus into such frenzy, as Hindus are not that united or single minded. This can happen only if you keep annoying and attacking Hindus over prolonged periods of time.
1. I have shown organized christian terrorist attacks on Hindus like that of NLFT, hired mercenaries attacking Hindu leaders and other forms of attacks on Hindus, Buddhists by Christian churches as part of their religious belief. This includes desecrating Hindu and Buddhist worship places without provocation of any kind from Hindus or Buddhists.
2. On the other hand, any violent acts of Hindus against christians or Muslims is always preceded by a provocative act of christians or Muslims, including physically violent acts of terrorism, assassination of Hindu leaders with Maoist elements etc.
3. No traditional or authentic Hindu schools ever preach its population to act violently even if violently attacked. The political Hindu orgs like VHP, Bajrang Dal etc. that involve also do not approve the violent acts from its top leadership completely. Often local Hindus, after reaching their limit of patience often act violently making their own decisions to do so.
The violence in Orissa and Karnataka was fueled by the insensitive and violent acts of Christians against Hindus under the instigation of missionaries. No single organization can whip all the Hindus into such frenzy, as Hindus are not that united or single minded. This can happen only if you keep annoying and attacking Hindus over prolonged periods of time.
written by continuum , August 25, 2009
Definitions of idol on the Web:
A graven image or representation of anything that is revered, or believed to convey spiritual power;
Definitions of reverence on the Web:
Veneration; profound awe and respect, normally in a sacred context; An act of showing respect, such as a bow; The state of being revered; A form of address for some members of the clergy; To show reverence
You respect your cross according to your religious belief. Hence you are an idol worshiper.
A graven image or representation of anything that is revered, or believed to convey spiritual power;
Definitions of reverence on the Web:
Veneration; profound awe and respect, normally in a sacred context; An act of showing respect, such as a bow; The state of being revered; A form of address for some members of the clergy; To show reverence
You respect your cross according to your religious belief. Hence you are an idol worshiper.
written by continuum , August 25, 2009
I will quote again what really happens in Orissa. Why Christians only were attacked? Why not say Buddhists or Jains or Sikhs of that state? Unfortunately Christians asked for trouble with a decade long violence and abuse of Hindus.
The story of Orissa runs for last 200 years. British monarchy with their
missionaries have engaged in demonizing Hindus and Hinduism for 200 years of their
rule. After independence, missionaries from New Zealand and Australia, and UK
started pouring in to convert certain Hindu tribes.
The recent clashes are between scheduled tribes, certain tribes that ar3e Hindus and
another tribe that is Christian. The following BBC link gives a balanced view.
The decade old conflict included physically violent attacks on Hindu leaders by
christian tribesmen, including acid attacks and burning Hindus alive under the
direction of missionaries. This violence reached peak when Swami Laxmananda, an 80
year old Hindu holy man, being killed by hired mercenaries of christian
missionaries. These were maoist terrorists who were always anti-Hindu and both
christian missionaries and they joined for monetary and other benefits.
The story of Orissa runs for last 200 years. British monarchy with their
missionaries have engaged in demonizing Hindus and Hinduism for 200 years of their
rule. After independence, missionaries from New Zealand and Australia, and UK
started pouring in to convert certain Hindu tribes.
The recent clashes are between scheduled tribes, certain tribes that ar3e Hindus and
another tribe that is Christian. The following BBC link gives a balanced view.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/south_asia/7637087.stm
The popular narrative is that the conflict is all about tribes people, egged on
by radical Hindu groups, targeting the Christian community to put an end to the
church and its growing influence in the region.
But that is only a small part of Kandhamal's tangled conflict. To describe it as a
war over religion is to simplify it, say analysts and officials.
A house attack in the anti-Christian riots in Kandhamal
They say it is essentially a decades-old conflict over identity, rights and
entitlements.
The decade old conflict included physically violent attacks on Hindu leaders by
christian tribesmen, including acid attacks and burning Hindus alive under the
direction of missionaries. This violence reached peak when Swami Laxmananda, an 80
year old Hindu holy man, being killed by hired mercenaries of christian
missionaries. These were maoist terrorists who were always anti-Hindu and both
christian missionaries and they joined for monetary and other benefits.
written by David , August 25, 2009
once again, ignornace prevents continuum from even understanding what the issue is here.
Once again-
Christians do NOT pray TO a cross. this is simple english- are you that idiotic that you cannot understand that, or are you simply a 3rd grader looking to incite others as if you were in the schoolyard?
for crying out loud- will you learn about a topic before you comment about it?
so go ahead- since you have this vast knowledge of Christianity and Judaism- explain the Judaic sacrificial system, how it works, why it was put into place, what the symbiology is, where and why it started, what are the theological parts to it and what do they mean, and how does Christ fit into it, and thereby the precept of Christianity in regards to man's salvation, sanctification, and compare it all to Islam and stress the major differences in theology and ideology.
go ahead- we are waiting- and dont try to oversimplify it in order to 'prove' an ignorant uneducated point to make you feel like you are correct.
Once again-
Christians do NOT pray TO a cross. this is simple english- are you that idiotic that you cannot understand that, or are you simply a 3rd grader looking to incite others as if you were in the schoolyard?
for crying out loud- will you learn about a topic before you comment about it?
so go ahead- since you have this vast knowledge of Christianity and Judaism- explain the Judaic sacrificial system, how it works, why it was put into place, what the symbiology is, where and why it started, what are the theological parts to it and what do they mean, and how does Christ fit into it, and thereby the precept of Christianity in regards to man's salvation, sanctification, and compare it all to Islam and stress the major differences in theology and ideology.
go ahead- we are waiting- and dont try to oversimplify it in order to 'prove' an ignorant uneducated point to make you feel like you are correct.
written by David , August 26, 2009
Let's see...
NAZI- an acronym.
ac?ro?nym??/?ækr?n?m/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ak-ruh-nim]
–noun 1. a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.
Naz?a?rene??/?næz??rin, ?næz??rin/ Pronunciation [naz-uh-reen, naz-uh-reen]
–noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Nazareth.
2. a member of a sect of early Jewish converts to Christianity who retained the Mosaic ritual.
3. the Nazarene, Jesus Christ.
Origin:
1225–75; ME < LL Nazar?nus < Gk Nazar?nós, equiv. to Nazar(ét) Nazareth + -?nos suffix of origin
once again, anonymous shows his complete ignorance. it is so funny to see him try to post things that really make absolutely no sense.
I see no relation between NAZI and Nazarene. but desperate, ignorant people who will say anything to be right all the time do.
NAZI- an acronym.
ac?ro?nym??/?ækr?n?m/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ak-ruh-nim]
–noun 1. a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.
Naz?a?rene??/?næz??rin, ?næz??rin/ Pronunciation [naz-uh-reen, naz-uh-reen]
–noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Nazareth.
2. a member of a sect of early Jewish converts to Christianity who retained the Mosaic ritual.
3. the Nazarene, Jesus Christ.
Origin:
1225–75; ME < LL Nazar?nus < Gk Nazar?nós, equiv. to Nazar(ét) Nazareth + -?nos suffix of origin
once again, anonymous shows his complete ignorance. it is so funny to see him try to post things that really make absolutely no sense.
I see no relation between NAZI and Nazarene. but desperate, ignorant people who will say anything to be right all the time do.
written by continuum , August 26, 2009
Why should I explain theology of your religion or Judaism to you? Go and ask a Raabbi why Jews does not accept your god and why they call christians 'idolaters' and what is this silly substitutional sacrifice blah blah etc..?. I do not care.
As per the definition of idolatry, christians are 'idolaters'. Calling me 'idiot' does NOT change this fact. Does it?
As per the definition of idolatry, christians are 'idolaters'. Calling me 'idiot' does NOT change this fact. Does it?
written by David , August 26, 2009
the point I am making is that you are oversimplifying 'idolatry' without understanding anything about christianity. you conveniently side-step any answers rather skillfully, but it is evident of you not knowing what the heck you are talking about.
I do, however, apoligize for calling you and Anonymous 'idiots.' it is wrong of me to do it.
I do, however, apoligize for calling you and Anonymous 'idiots.' it is wrong of me to do it.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
The Current Pope Benedict XVI is a NAZI
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7576505/
What else can you expect from a NAZI cult?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7576505/
What else can you expect from a NAZI cult?
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
Do you think there is only one person on the internet called anonymous?
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
I will dumb down the statement for you so that it reaches your level
"Hitler did not gas even a single christian" should read "Hitler did not gas even a single christian for religious reasons." Now do you understand? I doubt if you will.
"Hitler did not gas even a single christian" should read "Hitler did not gas even a single christian for religious reasons." Now do you understand? I doubt if you will.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
So what? I am not a Hindu. While I am pointing out that BIBLE ADVOCATES KILLING you prattle some nonsense about some other religion that doesn't answer the charge that BIBLE advocates killing. All your argument proves is that some other religion is bad not that christianity is right.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
Your claim that you do not Idolize a torture instrument is exactly like the claim by the muslims that they do not Idolize the kaaba. Do you believe them when they say mohammed/ kaaba/ mecca/ quran is NOT their idol?
Mere assertion that cross is not your idol is not proof. The only way to disprove idolatry is through disrespect which you can't show.
"And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice"
What sacrifice? He spent two days dead then got beamed up to heaven for eternity. Do you think that is enough "sacrifice" to make up for all the havoc his nazi cult has wreaked on humanity?
Why don't you worship the two criminals who were crucified along with christ for their "Sacrifice"?
Mere assertion that cross is not your idol is not proof. The only way to disprove idolatry is through disrespect which you can't show.
"And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice"
What sacrifice? He spent two days dead then got beamed up to heaven for eternity. Do you think that is enough "sacrifice" to make up for all the havoc his nazi cult has wreaked on humanity?
Why don't you worship the two criminals who were crucified along with christ for their "Sacrifice"?
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
"And, the cross is a reminder for us humans of Christ's sacrifice"
To the Hindus their idols is a reminder that some gods exist. They do not pray to the idol they are actually praying to god represented by the idol. How are you prove that they are idolaters given your definition of idolatry says only actual praying to the idol ONLY is idolatry?
To the Hindus their idols is a reminder that some gods exist. They do not pray to the idol they are actually praying to god represented by the idol. How are you prove that they are idolaters given your definition of idolatry says only actual praying to the idol ONLY is idolatry?
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
Your prayer sign itself is the Cross. You move your hand in the shape of the cross. so the cross symbol is intimately associated with prayer and you still claim that cross has nothing to do with your prayers.
written by Jesuz the Nazi from Nazareth. , August 28, 2009
A person from France can be called a Frenchman or a frenchy for short.
A person from Japan can be called a Japanese or a Jap for short.
A person from Nazareth can be called Nazarene or Nazi for short.
A person from Japan can be called a Japanese or a Jap for short.
A person from Nazareth can be called Nazarene or Nazi for short.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
"2,000 Jehovah's Witnesses "
ONLY this point refers to Christians.
Nazis were elected to power for their promise to wipe out the jews by 17 million christian voters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...e_to_power
If you look at the concentration camp badges:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...amp_badges
The only christians with a badge was the Jehovah's witnesses (about 15000 of them compared to the millions of non christians). The protestants and the catholics do not have a badge because they were not interned for their religious beliefs.
The current pope is a Nazi and worked under hitler.
This proves that Christians were a major part of the Nazi armies and that Hitler was not anti-christian.
ONLY this point refers to Christians.
Nazis were elected to power for their promise to wipe out the jews by 17 million christian voters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...e_to_power
If you look at the concentration camp badges:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...amp_badges
The only christians with a badge was the Jehovah's witnesses (about 15000 of them compared to the millions of non christians). The protestants and the catholics do not have a badge because they were not interned for their religious beliefs.
The current pope is a Nazi and worked under hitler.
This proves that Christians were a major part of the Nazi armies and that Hitler was not anti-christian.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
Since it is not clear enough for you I will try to explain.
You said:
"Please do NOT lump all Christians in with the small sect of idiots that think Jews are evil for crucifying Christ."
This implies that there are some christians who DO NOT think that Jews are evil for crucifying Christ. So IF YOU do not think the Jews are evil for crucifying Christ by axiom you MUST think that it is OK for Jews to have crucified Christ. So if that is your belief why then are there NO christians who thank the jews for doing something that is OK with them? Why then have the Jews have NEVER got a medal for crucifying Christ?
Also according to your Christianity it was necessary for Christ to die for our sins blah blah if it was necessary shouldn't you thank the Jews for having carried out a necessary task?
The fundamental thing that the crucification showed was the Christ was not the god he claimed to be. He couldn't even save his own ass. If he couldn't save his own ass he can't save anyone else either. But by using astonishing feats of logic jumping you turned the proof of his humanity into some muddled he was a god yet he wanted to die for us mush.
You said:
"Please do NOT lump all Christians in with the small sect of idiots that think Jews are evil for crucifying Christ."
This implies that there are some christians who DO NOT think that Jews are evil for crucifying Christ. So IF YOU do not think the Jews are evil for crucifying Christ by axiom you MUST think that it is OK for Jews to have crucified Christ. So if that is your belief why then are there NO christians who thank the jews for doing something that is OK with them? Why then have the Jews have NEVER got a medal for crucifying Christ?
Also according to your Christianity it was necessary for Christ to die for our sins blah blah if it was necessary shouldn't you thank the Jews for having carried out a necessary task?
The fundamental thing that the crucification showed was the Christ was not the god he claimed to be. He couldn't even save his own ass. If he couldn't save his own ass he can't save anyone else either. But by using astonishing feats of logic jumping you turned the proof of his humanity into some muddled he was a god yet he wanted to die for us mush.
written by a guest , August 28, 2009
I found it in your own words.
"It was God's plan for Jesus Christ to be sacrificed- if that was the plan, then the Jews did exactly what they were supposed to do."
Then why have you christians never thanked the jews and given them a medal for doing something they were supposed to do?
"It was God's plan for Jesus Christ to be sacrificed- if that was the plan, then the Jews did exactly what they were supposed to do."
Then why have you christians never thanked the jews and given them a medal for doing something they were supposed to do?
written by JohanM , August 29, 2009
Not only Jews but Muslims also call them idolaters.
All these highly dogmatic abrahimic murderous cults call themselves the "true" religions and demonize each other.
All these highly dogmatic abrahimic murderous cults call themselves the "true" religions and demonize each other.
written by JohanM , August 29, 2009
What about the Spanish and Potugese Conquistadors who were carrying sword in one hand and cross in other.......
written by JohanM , August 29, 2009
Mr. Anonymous please accept the fact that Hitler is a fan of Buddha, Confucius, and Mohammad. The Nazi symbol swastika is also a Hindu religious symbol. The Nazis considered themselves descendants of the Aryans of India. So therefore Hindus and Nazis are correlated.
Going by your logic: You use Hindu-Arabic numerals in your day to day accounting, mathematics. So you are a Hindu and Arab too. Since you are an Arab so you are a Zombie Muslim..
Do not connect the things just for the sake of connecting.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
Read Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, that is the core doctrine of Christianity. If you call that doctrine wrong or immoral, then what is right for you then?
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
Some natives practicing backward and regressive religious practices passed from generation to generation, that made their country miserable, just cannot stand the light of truth brought by Jesus Christ. That explains their innate HATRED and HOSTILITY toward Christians.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
God's law states that the wages of sin is DEATH. The death of Jesus Christ is the payment for the sin of ALL humanity. Without the death of Jesus Christ mankind is lost forever. That is why Jesus Christ is called the Redeemer. What this means is mankind is reconciled to God through Jesus Christ, the door to eternal life is open (in His second coming) for those who follow Jesus Christ, the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
The Bible does not says to perform the sign of the cross in prayers.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
All religions cannot be ALL true. The Bible says there is a spirit called the Deceiver out to sow confusion. A deceiver will use half-truths to successfully deceive the unwary, in the same manner that a counterfeit product will utilized some portions of genuine product to be able to passed as a genuine product to deceive consumers (like for example a genuine Rolex wris****ch body but with a non-Rolex or fake mechanism inside or a genuine Rolex mechanism inside but utilizing a fake or imitation body).
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
The point is, their ultimate aim is to destroy Christianity. Those (Nazism, Communism, Islam, atheism, paganism, etc.) whose aim is the destruction of Christianity will ultimately FAIL.
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
So you will have no problems with using the rest of the Bible other than the sermon on the mount as toilet paper?
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
You mean no christian will call him a nazi, but thats what he was.
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
Dark ages is intimately associated with Monotheism. The rise of Christianity led to the dark ages of europe and only after its break up was europe able to come out the dark ages. The rise of islam led to the dark ages of arabia and africa it still has not come out of its dark ages.
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
Then why is the cross waving by hand universal in churches?
Tell me if you seriously do not do the hand waving cross during prayers. top to bottom left to right?
Tell me if you seriously do not do the hand waving cross during prayers. top to bottom left to right?
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
Abraham himself was a deceiver he passed off his wife as his sister (according to you, but according to my interpretation of the bible he married his sister).
That proves that your entire religion is based on a prophet who is a deceiver, coward and a liar.
The Bible is founded upon such liars and cowards and is not worth quoting from.
That proves that your entire religion is based on a prophet who is a deceiver, coward and a liar.
The Bible is founded upon such liars and cowards and is not worth quoting from.
written by a guest , August 29, 2009
This is the fundamental thing wrong with your religion. I doubt you will understand this but I will try to explain.
The corner stone of HUMAN law is that one cannot be punished for the mistake of others. The son cannot be jailed for the crime of the father. Your neighbour can't be punished for your crimes. etc etc. This is the fundamental axiom of responsibility.
Your entire religion is founded on the premise that someone else will pay for some one else's sins/mistakes/crimes. That is it is a moral abdication. You find scapegoats to die to appease your blood thirsty god that is you imagine god sent himself to kill himself (for two days only after which he is now back to enjoying heaven) to pay for sins for the creatures (us) he created in the first place.
In short your god teaches you christians you can do ANYTHING even murder then if you go and ask for his forgiveness and manage to get his grace you can escape your actions. Such an amoral teaching stinks.
YOU CANT ESCAPE YOUR ACTIONS. If you cant escape your actions and if only you can pay for your actions then god/jesus/whatever can't pay for your actions. So he didn't die for me or humanity or any such shit. You want to explain away his inability to save himself from torture and death despite his claim that he was a god so you resort to all these self deceptions.
"the door to eternal life is open (in His second coming) for those who follow Jesus Christ, the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE."
This is the payoff, there is NO REWARD for BEING GOOD as long you don't believe in jesus. You are rewarded ONLY if you follow Jesus Christ. Hitler is blessed with heaven for believing in christ but Gandhi is burning in HELL for not believing in christ.
The corner stone of HUMAN law is that one cannot be punished for the mistake of others. The son cannot be jailed for the crime of the father. Your neighbour can't be punished for your crimes. etc etc. This is the fundamental axiom of responsibility.
Your entire religion is founded on the premise that someone else will pay for some one else's sins/mistakes/crimes. That is it is a moral abdication. You find scapegoats to die to appease your blood thirsty god that is you imagine god sent himself to kill himself (for two days only after which he is now back to enjoying heaven) to pay for sins for the creatures (us) he created in the first place.
In short your god teaches you christians you can do ANYTHING even murder then if you go and ask for his forgiveness and manage to get his grace you can escape your actions. Such an amoral teaching stinks.
YOU CANT ESCAPE YOUR ACTIONS. If you cant escape your actions and if only you can pay for your actions then god/jesus/whatever can't pay for your actions. So he didn't die for me or humanity or any such shit. You want to explain away his inability to save himself from torture and death despite his claim that he was a god so you resort to all these self deceptions.
"the door to eternal life is open (in His second coming) for those who follow Jesus Christ, the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE."
This is the payoff, there is NO REWARD for BEING GOOD as long you don't believe in jesus. You are rewarded ONLY if you follow Jesus Christ. Hitler is blessed with heaven for believing in christ but Gandhi is burning in HELL for not believing in christ.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
--"(according to you, but according to my interpretation of the bible he married his sister)"--
Sarai later called Sarah was Abraham's wife and NOT his sister.
Genesis 12: 10-13, "Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, "I know what a beautiful woman you are. When the Egyptians see you, they will say, 'This is his wife.' Then they will kill me but will let you live. Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you."
Abraham being a human is subject to human shortcomings. He told a lie to save his life and lying is a deed everyone does one way or another.
Peter, a devout disciple of Jesus, disowned Him (upon the arrest of Jesus) to save himself from persecution, when confronted by hostile crowd, even though Jesus predicted earlier that Peter will deny Him three times.
Mr. Anonymous can you truthfully say that you had never told a lie in your whole life? Are you a sinless man? The Bible says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
Mr. Anonymous are you earnestly seeking for the truth or on a crusade to discredit and malign Christianity?
If your purpose is the second (to discredit and malign Christianity), I will tell you in advance and for sure, you will surely FAIL and that is a guarantee.
Sarai later called Sarah was Abraham's wife and NOT his sister.
Genesis 12: 10-13, "Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, "I know what a beautiful woman you are. When the Egyptians see you, they will say, 'This is his wife.' Then they will kill me but will let you live. Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you."
Abraham being a human is subject to human shortcomings. He told a lie to save his life and lying is a deed everyone does one way or another.
Peter, a devout disciple of Jesus, disowned Him (upon the arrest of Jesus) to save himself from persecution, when confronted by hostile crowd, even though Jesus predicted earlier that Peter will deny Him three times.
Mr. Anonymous can you truthfully say that you had never told a lie in your whole life? Are you a sinless man? The Bible says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
Mr. Anonymous are you earnestly seeking for the truth or on a crusade to discredit and malign Christianity?
If your purpose is the second (to discredit and malign Christianity), I will tell you in advance and for sure, you will surely FAIL and that is a guarantee.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
You cannot blame people for their practices. But the Bible does not say anything or require making the sign of the cross in prayers. Those are called traditions of men and not of God.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
You can do whatever you want Mr. Anonymous but in the end you will answer for the misdeeds.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
This fact stand out: USA, Europe, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand are countries where the population are predominantly Christians and these countries are the most prosperous, advanced, and the most tolerant countries in the whole world. Christians are following the teaching of Jesus Christ "to give unto Caesar (the ruling earthly power) what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
Mr Anonymous, one way your enemy will destroy you is through infiltration of your ranks.
The Deceiver is the enemy of the truth and doing the game of infiltration.
Matthew 24:4-14,"Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,a’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.
“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Sure things to watch:
1) False Christ, false teachers, false prophets (Muhammad, et al).
2) Wars galore (Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.).
3)Persecution of Christians (in India and Islamic countries)
4)Rise of atheism in the West
5)The Gospel or the Good News of the coming Kingdom of God will be preached throughout the world (aided by the Internet).
6)Those who remain faithful in Jesus Christ will be saved.
The Deceiver is the enemy of the truth and doing the game of infiltration.
Matthew 24:4-14,"Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,a’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.
“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Sure things to watch:
1) False Christ, false teachers, false prophets (Muhammad, et al).
2) Wars galore (Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.).
3)Persecution of Christians (in India and Islamic countries)
4)Rise of atheism in the West
5)The Gospel or the Good News of the coming Kingdom of God will be preached throughout the world (aided by the Internet).
6)Those who remain faithful in Jesus Christ will be saved.
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
One more thing that is sure to happen,
7) Famines and earthquakes (intensity is increasing).
7) Famines and earthquakes (intensity is increasing).
written by kmgy , August 29, 2009
--"Hitler is blessed with heaven for believing in christ but Gandhi is burning in HELL for not believing in christ"--
Mr. Anonymous did you see these things happening or are you just imagining?
--"In short your god teaches you christians you can do ANYTHING even murder then if you go and ask for his forgiveness and manage to get his grace you can escape your actions. Such an amoral teaching stinks."--
Mr. Anonymous, EVERYONE will take account of his deeds before God.
Romans 14:10, "You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat."
Mr. Anonymous did you see these things happening or are you just imagining?
--"In short your god teaches you christians you can do ANYTHING even murder then if you go and ask for his forgiveness and manage to get his grace you can escape your actions. Such an amoral teaching stinks."--
Mr. Anonymous, EVERYONE will take account of his deeds before God.
Romans 14:10, "You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat."
written by Ashraf , August 30, 2009
Getlost, David you do even no anythin about your religion, I know u well, y r u so curious to change thins frm fact? r u k? i guess u read such qur'an which's falsely translated by some infidels...
CUT THE CRAP K...?
CUT THE CRAP K...?
written by David , August 30, 2009
man- you keep on displaying your complete lack of knowledge for Christianity.
so i guess you don't need to study things like math, or science- you just know them! why study anything, when you can just form an opinion based on nothing!
amazing!
so i guess you don't need to study things like math, or science- you just know them! why study anything, when you can just form an opinion based on nothing!
amazing!
written by David , August 30, 2009
we're not all catholics, anonymous.
so, in addition to not having to study anything, you can simply just generalize about everything! don't research any facts- just watch some movies, google one or two things- and bingo! you are an expert!
you should start a school where people can get a degree with just talking- not necessarily knowing anything. the fact that you continue to argue generalized details that you perceive as concrete proof shows you have not bothered to put any effort into learning.
what happened to you in your life? did some loved relative die of cancer or something? did you lose your job? what crisis in your life has made you such a bitter person?
if you have issues, just ask us, and we will keep you in prayer that they may be lifted away. it is that simple, anonymous. let go of your anger- it will only burn you up inside.
so, in addition to not having to study anything, you can simply just generalize about everything! don't research any facts- just watch some movies, google one or two things- and bingo! you are an expert!
you should start a school where people can get a degree with just talking- not necessarily knowing anything. the fact that you continue to argue generalized details that you perceive as concrete proof shows you have not bothered to put any effort into learning.
what happened to you in your life? did some loved relative die of cancer or something? did you lose your job? what crisis in your life has made you such a bitter person?
if you have issues, just ask us, and we will keep you in prayer that they may be lifted away. it is that simple, anonymous. let go of your anger- it will only burn you up inside.
written by David , August 30, 2009
wiping your arse with the bible does not offend us. God is bigger than your attempts to insult Him. and we are not muslims to have to riot over it.
come one. tell us what is bothering you. did some jerk in your life claiming to be a Christian screw you over in some way? did a girlfriend leave you and you are blaming God? parents divorce? you divorce?
what?
come one. tell us what is bothering you. did some jerk in your life claiming to be a Christian screw you over in some way? did a girlfriend leave you and you are blaming God? parents divorce? you divorce?
what?
written by David , August 30, 2009
come on... tell us what is wrong in your life. Jesus encouraged us to talk to our brethren, so that burdens could be made lighter. you can insult us all day long- at the end of the day We are still Christians and you are still angry about something.
what happened, man?
what happened, man?
written by David , August 30, 2009
I am praying for you, Ashraf. May Jesus Christ bless you with His light and truth. May His peace descend on you, and may your life be prosperous in His name.
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
"Abraham being a human is subject to human shortcomings."
Not from the way you treat them, if he was a prophet as he claimed to be he should be exemplary and saintly and above petty human shortcomings. That he was not, proves that he could not have been a prophet.
"He told a lie to save his life and lying is a deed everyone does one way or another."
If one lies to saves his life he is a COWARD.
If one lies for anything he is a LIAR and DECEIVER. So how can you know that he is telling the truth when he claims that he is a prophet and has a personal line to god?
"The Bible says there is a spirit called the Deceiver out to sow confusion. A deceiver will use half-truths to successfully deceive the unwary,"
When I say something that contradicts your pet dogmas you call me a deceiver, but when I PROVE to you that abraham has lied to you, you brush the argument under the rug and call it a human shortcoming. Do you notice your double standards here?
If you have to explain away even one shortcoming of a prophet he is a prophet no more.
Muslims will claim that all the shortcomings of mohammed we are discussing here are "being a human is subject to human shortcomings." so will you still accept him as a prophet even though he was a liar and coward in many places?
"Mr. Anonymous can you truthfully say that you had never told a lie in your whole life? Are you a sinless man? The Bible says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.""
I may have told a lie but I have NEVER claimed to be a prophet either. Sin is such a SHITTY word, because sin lies in the eyes of the beholder. I prefer the word crime, because to an extent it is not subjective but objective that many people agree on. For example You will call denigrating jesus a sin but I will not, but we will both agree that murder is a crime. I don't give a shit about sins only about crimes, and I can assure you I have NEVER committed a crime in my life.
"Mr. Anonymous are you earnestly seeking for the truth or on a crusade to discredit and malign Christianity?"
We are discussing what is the truth here that you are seriously outgunned by logic and arguments shows that you are deceiving yourself when it comes to christianity.
"If your purpose is the second (to discredit and malign Christianity), I will tell you in advance and for sure, you will surely FAIL and that is a guarantee."
Are you talking to keep up your own courage? Are you a priest dependent on christianity for your food? If you are so sure that I will fail why keep shouting it to keep up your courage? All I want to do is discuss, if by those discussions christianity dies then we are ALL so much the better for finding the truth whatever it is.
Not from the way you treat them, if he was a prophet as he claimed to be he should be exemplary and saintly and above petty human shortcomings. That he was not, proves that he could not have been a prophet.
"He told a lie to save his life and lying is a deed everyone does one way or another."
If one lies to saves his life he is a COWARD.
If one lies for anything he is a LIAR and DECEIVER. So how can you know that he is telling the truth when he claims that he is a prophet and has a personal line to god?
"The Bible says there is a spirit called the Deceiver out to sow confusion. A deceiver will use half-truths to successfully deceive the unwary,"
When I say something that contradicts your pet dogmas you call me a deceiver, but when I PROVE to you that abraham has lied to you, you brush the argument under the rug and call it a human shortcoming. Do you notice your double standards here?
If you have to explain away even one shortcoming of a prophet he is a prophet no more.
Muslims will claim that all the shortcomings of mohammed we are discussing here are "being a human is subject to human shortcomings." so will you still accept him as a prophet even though he was a liar and coward in many places?
"Mr. Anonymous can you truthfully say that you had never told a lie in your whole life? Are you a sinless man? The Bible says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.""
I may have told a lie but I have NEVER claimed to be a prophet either. Sin is such a SHITTY word, because sin lies in the eyes of the beholder. I prefer the word crime, because to an extent it is not subjective but objective that many people agree on. For example You will call denigrating jesus a sin but I will not, but we will both agree that murder is a crime. I don't give a shit about sins only about crimes, and I can assure you I have NEVER committed a crime in my life.
"Mr. Anonymous are you earnestly seeking for the truth or on a crusade to discredit and malign Christianity?"
We are discussing what is the truth here that you are seriously outgunned by logic and arguments shows that you are deceiving yourself when it comes to christianity.
"If your purpose is the second (to discredit and malign Christianity), I will tell you in advance and for sure, you will surely FAIL and that is a guarantee."
Are you talking to keep up your own courage? Are you a priest dependent on christianity for your food? If you are so sure that I will fail why keep shouting it to keep up your courage? All I want to do is discuss, if by those discussions christianity dies then we are ALL so much the better for finding the truth whatever it is.
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
"we're not all catholics, anonymous."
Ok
"so, in addition to not having to study anything, you can simply just generalize about everything! don't research any facts- just watch some movies, google one or two things- and bingo! you are an expert!"
We are having a discussion not a one way sermon from me, so whats this talk about myself. You have stopped discussing my arguments and have started discussing me. It borders on an adhominem attack. An adhominem attack is the last but one refuge of the incompetent, violence is the last. So if you want to be taken seriously cease discussing the poster and discuss ONLY the arguments presented. If you are not able to refute the arguments just shut up. I will only reply to any points about what we are discussing, I will not respond to any analysis/ discussions/ attacks about me or my motives, I will just pigeonhole you as an incompetent but I will not say it.
Ok
"so, in addition to not having to study anything, you can simply just generalize about everything! don't research any facts- just watch some movies, google one or two things- and bingo! you are an expert!"
We are having a discussion not a one way sermon from me, so whats this talk about myself. You have stopped discussing my arguments and have started discussing me. It borders on an adhominem attack. An adhominem attack is the last but one refuge of the incompetent, violence is the last. So if you want to be taken seriously cease discussing the poster and discuss ONLY the arguments presented. If you are not able to refute the arguments just shut up. I will only reply to any points about what we are discussing, I will not respond to any analysis/ discussions/ attacks about me or my motives, I will just pigeonhole you as an incompetent but I will not say it.
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
"You use Hindu-Arabic numerals in your day to day accounting, mathematics. So you are a Hindu and Arab too. Since you are an Arab so you are a Zombie Muslim.."
Very good point that I missed last time. Just because Hitler used the Hindu swastika doesn't make him a Hindu anymore than using the arabic numerals makes you into an arab.
Very good point that I missed last time. Just because Hitler used the Hindu swastika doesn't make him a Hindu anymore than using the arabic numerals makes you into an arab.
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
A cocunut tree is a tall tree that has no branches in the middle. It grows to a height of several metres and at the tip it sprouts several short branches in a singular fashion, the branch itself does not sprout other branches but leaves. It also produces a hard nut called coconut.
You may ask what the deuce I am talking about here.
Thats what I want to ask, what the deuce has your post to do with the FACT that the current pope is a NAZI?
When you are not able to refute an argument talk about some unrelated thing and it will be taken as a legit answer. Duh?
You may ask what the deuce I am talking about here.
Thats what I want to ask, what the deuce has your post to do with the FACT that the current pope is a NAZI?
When you are not able to refute an argument talk about some unrelated thing and it will be taken as a legit answer. Duh?
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
"ALL TEACHINGS OF GOD - A PERFECT GOD - MUST BE PERFECT. ANY WRITINGS IN ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT THAT ARE NOT PERFECT – ARE NOT PERFECTION - ARE NOT THE TEACHINGS OF GOD BUT THE TEACHINGS OF MAN
In order for the Koran to be the divine word of God - every word, every teaching must be PERFECT. Since God is PERFECT every word, every teaching of God – A PERFECT GOD must be PERFECT. Every word – every teaching must be non violent. There can be no words of hate – no hateful teachings. Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Koran is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God. God cannot have some PERFECT teachings and other teachings that are IMPERFECT. In order to be the divine word of God, the entire Koran must be a work of PERFECTION – the PERFECT word/teachings of a PERFECT God. All teachings in the Koran and all Islamic texts (written or verbal) that are not PERFECT – that are not PERFECTION are not the teachings of God - A PERFECT GOD but the teachings of man – the teachings of ALLAH (the ANTI GOD.)"
By this argument, since we have shown abraham is a liar and a coward and proved that bible is full of hate and murder and killing ordered by god, by your own arguments Bible is not a work of the perfect god. Do you agree?
To repeat:
"Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Bible is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God."
If you want I can quote hate verses from both NT and OT.
In order for the Koran to be the divine word of God - every word, every teaching must be PERFECT. Since God is PERFECT every word, every teaching of God – A PERFECT GOD must be PERFECT. Every word – every teaching must be non violent. There can be no words of hate – no hateful teachings. Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Koran is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God. God cannot have some PERFECT teachings and other teachings that are IMPERFECT. In order to be the divine word of God, the entire Koran must be a work of PERFECTION – the PERFECT word/teachings of a PERFECT God. All teachings in the Koran and all Islamic texts (written or verbal) that are not PERFECT – that are not PERFECTION are not the teachings of God - A PERFECT GOD but the teachings of man – the teachings of ALLAH (the ANTI GOD.)"
By this argument, since we have shown abraham is a liar and a coward and proved that bible is full of hate and murder and killing ordered by god, by your own arguments Bible is not a work of the perfect god. Do you agree?
To repeat:
"Every word – every teaching must be morally perfect. If only one word, one teaching is violent – if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word – one teaching is not moral PERFECTION then the entire Bible is not a work of PERFECTION and therefore not the word/work of God."
If you want I can quote hate verses from both NT and OT.
written by a guest , August 31, 2009
I am praying for you, David. May the flying spaghetti monster bless you with His light and truth. May his peace descend on you, and may your life be prosperous in HIS name.
written by kmgy , August 31, 2009
--"When I say something that contradicts your pet dogmas you call me a deceiver"--
For your information Mr. Anonymous the Deceiver is a spirit not a human. Read again the previous post.
--"That he was not, proves that he could not have been a prophet."--
Abraham did NOT claimed to be a prophet as you falsely believed. A prophet, like prophet Isaiah, or Daniel, is one who foretells future specific event to give warning or guidance to the Israelites. Abraham's name means father of many nations. He was the progenitor of the Israelites (through Isaac) as well as the Arabs (through Ismael).
--"If one lies to saves his life he is a COWARD"--
There is no doubt you will tell a lie when you're life is threatened, for example a Jihadi held you hostage asking you, whether you're a Muslim or not. Your life depends on your answer. If you say you're a Muslim he will set you free, otherwise he will chop your head off if you bravely (if you imagine yourself a fearless hero) and foolishly insist you're an infidel.
--"I can assure you I have NEVER committed a crime in my life."--
Mr. Anonymous, telling a lie is a crime or a felony called perjury, and subject to a prison sentence of up to five years in the U.S. and punishable also in other countries.
Example of people convicted of perjury, Marcus Einfeld, former Justice of the Federal Court of Australia, for lying on oath to avoid losing his drivers licence.
Jonathan Aitken, British politician, who was a member of John Major's cabinet, was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for perjury.
Jeffrey Archer, British novelist and politician, was sentenced to 4 years imprisonment for perjury.
--"Are you a priest dependent on christianity for your food?"-- Your assumption is false and malicious, Mr. Anonymous, for your information, I am a licensed Mechanical Engineer and presently teaching Math and Engineering subjects, how about you?
Mr. Anonymous if you are on a crusade to malign Christianity then I am here to oppose you.
For your information Mr. Anonymous the Deceiver is a spirit not a human. Read again the previous post.
--"That he was not, proves that he could not have been a prophet."--
Abraham did NOT claimed to be a prophet as you falsely believed. A prophet, like prophet Isaiah, or Daniel, is one who foretells future specific event to give warning or guidance to the Israelites. Abraham's name means father of many nations. He was the progenitor of the Israelites (through Isaac) as well as the Arabs (through Ismael).
--"If one lies to saves his life he is a COWARD"--
There is no doubt you will tell a lie when you're life is threatened, for example a Jihadi held you hostage asking you, whether you're a Muslim or not. Your life depends on your answer. If you say you're a Muslim he will set you free, otherwise he will chop your head off if you bravely (if you imagine yourself a fearless hero) and foolishly insist you're an infidel.
--"I can assure you I have NEVER committed a crime in my life."--
Mr. Anonymous, telling a lie is a crime or a felony called perjury, and subject to a prison sentence of up to five years in the U.S. and punishable also in other countries.
Example of people convicted of perjury, Marcus Einfeld, former Justice of the Federal Court of Australia, for lying on oath to avoid losing his drivers licence.
Jonathan Aitken, British politician, who was a member of John Major's cabinet, was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment for perjury.
Jeffrey Archer, British novelist and politician, was sentenced to 4 years imprisonment for perjury.
--"Are you a priest dependent on christianity for your food?"-- Your assumption is false and malicious, Mr. Anonymous, for your information, I am a licensed Mechanical Engineer and presently teaching Math and Engineering subjects, how about you?
Mr. Anonymous if you are on a crusade to malign Christianity then I am here to oppose you.
written by kmgy , August 31, 2009
Hindus and Hitler have the same common point: hatred to Christianity.
written by kmgy , August 31, 2009
The fact that the present Pope was a former member of Hitler Youth in his younger days as a German teen (membership was mandatory for all German teen-agers) does NOT automatically means that he espoused the Nazi ideology then or today. Many members of the German Wehrmacht in WW 2 were NOT Nazis. Being good obedient soldiers, they just follow the chain of command, and their leader happens to be by circumstances, Adolf Hitler.
--"The Current Pope Benedict XVI is a NAZI
What else can you expect from a NAZI cult?"--
There is no question Mr. Anonymous, you are in a hate crusade to malign Christianity and not really searching for the truth.
--"The Current Pope Benedict XVI is a NAZI
What else can you expect from a NAZI cult?"--
There is no question Mr. Anonymous, you are in a hate crusade to malign Christianity and not really searching for the truth.
written by kmgy , August 31, 2009
You are in spiritual darkness Mr. Anonymous.
Psalms 14:1
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
You are here today gone tomorrow.
Psalms 14:1
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
You are here today gone tomorrow.
written by kmgy , August 31, 2009
Mr. Anonymous, you run out of serious logical argument and resorted to childish mockery?
written by JohanM , August 31, 2009
Hitler was a pios Christian. Whatever he did to humanity was just the extension of the Charlmagne, Spanish Conquistadors, European Christians in New World.
Now christians like you are trying to show the Christianity in good light so you are getting rid of Hitler and converting him in to Hinduism. What a deception but can one expect from the Pios christians.
Now christians like you are trying to show the Christianity in good light so you are getting rid of Hitler and converting him in to Hinduism. What a deception but can one expect from the Pios christians.
written by JohanM , August 31, 2009
You are right that these countries are most prosperous, advanced and most tolerant countries.
But credit does not go to the Christianity. Credit goes to the forfathers of these countries who seperated chrurch from the state and politics.
Christians, Pope and Church are still going to get credit for their genocidal act in these countries and continents. Who can forget the genocide of the natives of New Worlds.
But credit does not go to the Christianity. Credit goes to the forfathers of these countries who seperated chrurch from the state and politics.
Christians, Pope and Church are still going to get credit for their genocidal act in these countries and continents. Who can forget the genocide of the natives of New Worlds.
written by JohanM , August 31, 2009
I agree with you. We can not forget the history and we must learn from the history. Islam is just the younger brother of Christianity. They are born to same father and mother. These both religion lead to the dark ages. Christianity in past and Islam in modern days.
written by JohanM , August 31, 2009
Then why you people are worried about the salvation of others souls. Spanish and Portugese Conquistatdors did the same thing what people like you preach.
written by JohanM , August 31, 2009
Then why you people are worried about the salvation of others souls. Spanish and Portugese Conquistatdors did the same thing what people like you preach.
written by F R Ahsan , August 31, 2009
You need the prayers Mr! Distorting everything Islam stands for. Hazrat Isa (Jesus) PBUH is a Prophet in Islam. He came to his nation with Islam. Jesus will descend from the heavens to the earth and and will then die on earth. The truth will come to be known by all when Islam will be at its zenith.
written by David , August 31, 2009
come here and make me shut up.
you obviously have some issues in your life that prevent you from opening your mind to the possibility that islam is wrong, that it is a travesty against mankind, that you are completely deceived about your 'prophet.' you refuse to see muhammad's hypocrisy in his personal example- the example where he justified killing innocents, taking their possessions by the sword, killing 'infidels' when they resisted, taking people's wives for his sheer personal enjoyment (only the 'prophet' was allowed so many wives at once- why only him? what makes him special?), the fact that he was possessed and spoke th Satanic Verses that his followers immediately covered up, the fact that there were originally more than one version of the koran and they were all burned except one version so no one has any odea what was really written in the koran...
there you go. discuss.
i still pray for your enlightenment. you will never stop me from doing that.
you obviously have some issues in your life that prevent you from opening your mind to the possibility that islam is wrong, that it is a travesty against mankind, that you are completely deceived about your 'prophet.' you refuse to see muhammad's hypocrisy in his personal example- the example where he justified killing innocents, taking their possessions by the sword, killing 'infidels' when they resisted, taking people's wives for his sheer personal enjoyment (only the 'prophet' was allowed so many wives at once- why only him? what makes him special?), the fact that he was possessed and spoke th Satanic Verses that his followers immediately covered up, the fact that there were originally more than one version of the koran and they were all burned except one version so no one has any odea what was really written in the koran...
there you go. discuss.
i still pray for your enlightenment. you will never stop me from doing that.
written by David , August 31, 2009
let's see-
planes, ships, and now hijacking religion.
islam is so desperate to try and establish some form of legitimacy.
jesus couldn't have been a muslim- first off, there was no 'islam' then.
second, he didnt kill anyone for their possessions.
third, he didnt rape slave girls.
fourth, he didnt marry.
fifth, he preached self sacrifice, not personal gain.
sixth, he died FOR everyone, not commanded everyone to die so he could get rich.
seventh, Jesus preached peace. Muhammad brought the sword.
but, to acknowledge this is to undermine every attemot by islam to prove itself. muhammad was a fool- a narcissist out for his own material gain and sexual fulfillment- not the salvation of the world.
muhammad is the perfect example of a cult leader- offer heaven, but use violence to get rich. he fooled his followers into blind fanaticism, while he lived in wealth he made them kill innocents adn wage war on other cultures.
today, people are horrified to leave islam because the ignorant will kill them. it is funny that islam is so prevalent in cultures where the illiteracy rate os so high. ignorant people that can't read can be manipulated easily by the one man that can read- even though most mullahs here is afghanistan do not understand the arabic text they read.
people accuse merica of all the bad stuff- drugs, prostitution, etc. what they refuse to admit is that muslim nations have the same problems on larger scales.
the largest producer of opium is afghanistan
iran has a larger drug problem than the USA.
alcohol is forbidden in islam, yet it is everywhere in muslim nations.
men rape women with no repercussions, have sex with sheep, donkeys, dogs, horses, etc. but they are good muslims.
gogle 'afghanistan child brides.' nice culture, muslims. you proud of that? oh yeah- you must be- it benefits men, so it must be ok.
if you are going to accuse the West of such things, you better clean house first.
planes, ships, and now hijacking religion.
islam is so desperate to try and establish some form of legitimacy.
jesus couldn't have been a muslim- first off, there was no 'islam' then.
second, he didnt kill anyone for their possessions.
third, he didnt rape slave girls.
fourth, he didnt marry.
fifth, he preached self sacrifice, not personal gain.
sixth, he died FOR everyone, not commanded everyone to die so he could get rich.
seventh, Jesus preached peace. Muhammad brought the sword.
but, to acknowledge this is to undermine every attemot by islam to prove itself. muhammad was a fool- a narcissist out for his own material gain and sexual fulfillment- not the salvation of the world.
muhammad is the perfect example of a cult leader- offer heaven, but use violence to get rich. he fooled his followers into blind fanaticism, while he lived in wealth he made them kill innocents adn wage war on other cultures.
today, people are horrified to leave islam because the ignorant will kill them. it is funny that islam is so prevalent in cultures where the illiteracy rate os so high. ignorant people that can't read can be manipulated easily by the one man that can read- even though most mullahs here is afghanistan do not understand the arabic text they read.
people accuse merica of all the bad stuff- drugs, prostitution, etc. what they refuse to admit is that muslim nations have the same problems on larger scales.
the largest producer of opium is afghanistan
iran has a larger drug problem than the USA.
alcohol is forbidden in islam, yet it is everywhere in muslim nations.
men rape women with no repercussions, have sex with sheep, donkeys, dogs, horses, etc. but they are good muslims.
gogle 'afghanistan child brides.' nice culture, muslims. you proud of that? oh yeah- you must be- it benefits men, so it must be ok.
if you are going to accuse the West of such things, you better clean house first.
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
"Mr. Anonymous, telling a lie is a crime or a felony called perjury, and subject to a prison sentence of up to five years in the U.S. and punishable also in other countries."
ONLY under oath. Lies not told under oath are not punishable. Besides I can claim I have never lied in my life but you will not believe it so I will not claim it.
ONLY under oath. Lies not told under oath are not punishable. Besides I can claim I have never lied in my life but you will not believe it so I will not claim it.
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
"you obviously have some issues in your life that prevent you from opening your mind to the possibility that islam is wrong"
Atleast we are in agreement on something. I don't know how you got the impression that I am a muslim from my posts. You must read my posts more carefully as I have talked against mohammed also.
Atleast we are in agreement on something. I don't know how you got the impression that I am a muslim from my posts. You must read my posts more carefully as I have talked against mohammed also.
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
I wonder how many Jews, Americans and Britishers the pope has personally killed with his own hands while serving the Nazi Army.
No religion other than christianity (except maybe islam) would have touched someone tainted by nazism with a ten foot pole.
"membership was mandatory for all German teen-agers"
This doesn't excuse EVIL deeds. He should have stood up to hitler and gone to a concentration camp and got a badge just like Jehovah witnesses but no catholic or protestant did that in any huge numbers. They were willing partners of EVIL. After you lost the war you cant cry "Bwwaaaah I was forced to kill and do despicable things, now make me a pope."
By talking FOR a nazi you are committing further EVIL.
No religion other than christianity (except maybe islam) would have touched someone tainted by nazism with a ten foot pole.
"membership was mandatory for all German teen-agers"
This doesn't excuse EVIL deeds. He should have stood up to hitler and gone to a concentration camp and got a badge just like Jehovah witnesses but no catholic or protestant did that in any huge numbers. They were willing partners of EVIL. After you lost the war you cant cry "Bwwaaaah I was forced to kill and do despicable things, now make me a pope."
By talking FOR a nazi you are committing further EVIL.
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
"list them"
"if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word –"
All you need is ONE word so I will give just a few:
I hate those who cling to worthless idols (Ps 31:6).
If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple (Lk 14:26).
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace but the sword. I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, a man's enemies will be the members of his own household (Matt 10:34-36).
If you do not have a sword sell your cloak and buy one (Lk 22:36).
"if there is only one word of hate - if only one hateful teaching – if only one word –"
All you need is ONE word so I will give just a few:
I hate those who cling to worthless idols (Ps 31:6).
If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple (Lk 14:26).
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace but the sword. I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, a man's enemies will be the members of his own household (Matt 10:34-36).
If you do not have a sword sell your cloak and buy one (Lk 22:36).
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
You are in intellectual darkness Mr.David
Smlasp 1:41
The fool says in his mind:
"There is God"
They are retarded, their thoughts are illogical.
they talk not with logic but with quotes from hearsay.
Smlasp 1:41
The fool says in his mind:
"There is God"
They are retarded, their thoughts are illogical.
they talk not with logic but with quotes from hearsay.
written by a guest , September 01, 2009
When talking with children who do not depend on logic but on fantasy books it is better to use ridicule to shake them into senses, because they can't understand logic or reasoning.
Mind you I do not ridicule the poster or discuss him or his motives but I ridicule only the points made in the posts.
Mind you I do not ridicule the poster or discuss him or his motives but I ridicule only the points made in the posts.
written by F R AHSAN , September 01, 2009
Islam has been on earth since day 1 when Adam Pbuh was sent on this earth. None of the prophets did such things as you mention. Muhammed PBUH was a very humble soul and a good man that ever walked this earth. If you dont believe please do not be disrespectful. You will find out in your own time that is certain and will pay for your own actions. Just because someone has a Muslim name does not mean they are Muslim.Look at M A Khan first impression is he is a Muslim. Christians, Hindus you have good ones and bad ones. Many Christians do not even know why they celebrate Christmas or what it is about. All the majority do is party and get drunk. Many so called Muslims know nothing about their religion. So many paedophiles and gays in the west it is unbelievable. They are in the east too. But each person will be judged for each ones actions includiung you and me. I'm not perfect but I try my best. You sound very disturbed to me. No matter where you go in the world there is good and evil amongst all nations and will be until the end of time. Our test is amongst all this what decisions do we take and what path will we follow. I am a Muslim and a very proud one and no one can change that as it is in my heart. It just hurts when people like you invent such ugly things. Ok you dont believe then dont be so disrespectful. You sound very immature and angry to me.
written by F R AHSAN , September 01, 2009
He appears as a Muslim by his name if he hates Islam so much then he should change his name too. I only read short extracts of his book which was a pack of lies and did not want to waste my time just like this site full of so much rubbish. Yes all say what you want now, enjoy this temporary time on earth that day you will all have to answer for all the things you have said and done and in the hereafter it will be eternal. Your hearts and minds are sealed. All that can come out from your mouths is filth. It just makes me wonder what kind of lives do you lead. What morals do you teach your children (if you have any). Even many Muslims are not Muslims like MA KHAN who are born into Muslim families. As I keep stating there is evil and good in every country we all know that. When someone in the west rapes, murders someone it is not said that christian was bad. So why is religion brought into everything in the east. Such atrocities are committed all over the world and have been since the beginning of time and will be until the end of time. Before 9/11 there was so much trouble in Ireland but religion did not come into it. This is human nature. But it is known that Islam will prevail in the end and shaitaan and its followers want to put an end to this. This is the plan very simple. My faith just grows stronger each day!
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"Then why you people are worried about the salvation of others souls."--
Here is an analogy, there is a coming sumptuous feast and you are invited, but you did come. You only have yourself to blame for not acting on the invitation and failed to partake in the great feast.
We all live and die but we believers in Jesus Christ are hoping for something your mind is incapable of understanding, 1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father. 2) Eternal life.
Here is an analogy, there is a coming sumptuous feast and you are invited, but you did come. You only have yourself to blame for not acting on the invitation and failed to partake in the great feast.
We all live and die but we believers in Jesus Christ are hoping for something your mind is incapable of understanding, 1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father. 2) Eternal life.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
Try to save some money and visit USA, Europe, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, where the population is predominantly Christian and see for yourself how the Christians run their societies.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"Hitler was a pios Christian."--
Either you are misinformed or on a crusade to malign Christianity.
Read what Hitler himself declared.
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."--Hitler
One is either a Christian or a German,". "You can't be both".--Hitler
Hitler and MANY Hindus (NOT ALL) hate Christianity.
Mr. JohanM MAYBE you are an anti-Christian Hindu fanatic.
Either you are misinformed or on a crusade to malign Christianity.
Read what Hitler himself declared.
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."--Hitler
One is either a Christian or a German,". "You can't be both".--Hitler
Hitler and MANY Hindus (NOT ALL) hate Christianity.
Mr. JohanM MAYBE you are an anti-Christian Hindu fanatic.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
People who hate Christianity:
1) Muslim fanatics
2) Hindu fanatics
3) Many Atheists
4) Nazis
5) Communists
6) Most pagans
7) Satan the Devil
1) Muslim fanatics
2) Hindu fanatics
3) Many Atheists
4) Nazis
5) Communists
6) Most pagans
7) Satan the Devil
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple (Lk 14:26)."--
Mr. Anonymous with all the billions of neurons in your gray matter, yet you cannot grasp the meaning of this verse.
It means Mr. Anonymous if you follow Jesus Christ, you will be at odds, in conflict with the ways of the world, the ways of getting, greed, lusts, and hatred, instead of the way of giving, caring, and loving.
Mr. Anonymous with all the billions of neurons in your gray matter, yet you cannot grasp the meaning of this verse.
It means Mr. Anonymous if you follow Jesus Christ, you will be at odds, in conflict with the ways of the world, the ways of getting, greed, lusts, and hatred, instead of the way of giving, caring, and loving.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"This doesn't excuse EVIL deeds. He should have stood up to hitler and gone to a concentration camp"--
I wonder Mr. Anonymous if you can do precisely what you mean in the same situation.
It is easy to brave in a non-life threatening situation especially in front of a PC monitor.
I wonder Mr. Anonymous if you can do precisely what you mean in the same situation.
It is easy to brave in a non-life threatening situation especially in front of a PC monitor.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"Jesus will descend from the heavens to the earth and and will then die on earth."--
This is one of many false and plagiarized from the Bible, Islamic teachings that deceive Muslims.
How could a man 2,000 years ago ascend to heaven and come back to die here on earth?
The truth Mr. F R Ahsan et al, is, Jesus Christ died on the cross 2,000 years ago, BUT He resurrected on the third day and later ascended unto heaven as witnessed by his disciples. He will come again as He said to JUDGE the living and the dead and will grant ETERNAL LIFE to those who remain faithful to Him, and that excludes Muslims who remain faithful to Muhammad, the personification of evil, also Hindus, pagans, rabid Nazis, communists, and atheists.
This is one of many false and plagiarized from the Bible, Islamic teachings that deceive Muslims.
How could a man 2,000 years ago ascend to heaven and come back to die here on earth?
The truth Mr. F R Ahsan et al, is, Jesus Christ died on the cross 2,000 years ago, BUT He resurrected on the third day and later ascended unto heaven as witnessed by his disciples. He will come again as He said to JUDGE the living and the dead and will grant ETERNAL LIFE to those who remain faithful to Him, and that excludes Muslims who remain faithful to Muhammad, the personification of evil, also Hindus, pagans, rabid Nazis, communists, and atheists.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"Islam has been on earth since day 1 when Adam Pbuh was sent on this earth"--
Another distorted Islamic teaching.
Islam began when Muhammad started it in 7th century AD.
Muhammad just copied some Biblical stories and purposely distorted it to fit its own agenda. The Biblical cover is just a facade, to hide Islam's true evil intention and to MISLEAD people. The Koran is a hate-filled book designed to incite hatred and violence. The mandatory 5 times daily prayers ensures Muslims are throughly brainwashed. Memberships are assured by the threat of DEATH to those who leave Islam. Surely that is NOT the way of a LOVING Heavenly Father.
Another distorted Islamic teaching.
Islam began when Muhammad started it in 7th century AD.
Muhammad just copied some Biblical stories and purposely distorted it to fit its own agenda. The Biblical cover is just a facade, to hide Islam's true evil intention and to MISLEAD people. The Koran is a hate-filled book designed to incite hatred and violence. The mandatory 5 times daily prayers ensures Muslims are throughly brainwashed. Memberships are assured by the threat of DEATH to those who leave Islam. Surely that is NOT the way of a LOVING Heavenly Father.
written by kmgy , September 01, 2009
--"When talking with children who do not depend on logic but on fantasy books"--
It is a pity Mr. Anonymous that your mind cannot grasp, comprehend, or fathom the
concept of a loving Heavenly Father and of eternal life.
Mr Anonymous, you are her today and gone tomorrow.
Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever and will be rewarded with ETERNAL life.
A simple analogy, Mr. Anonymous, you are invited to a sumptuous feast but you refused, in the end you failed to partake in the great feast.
It is a pity Mr. Anonymous that your mind cannot grasp, comprehend, or fathom the
concept of a loving Heavenly Father and of eternal life.
Mr Anonymous, you are her today and gone tomorrow.
Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever and will be rewarded with ETERNAL life.
A simple analogy, Mr. Anonymous, you are invited to a sumptuous feast but you refused, in the end you failed to partake in the great feast.
written by David , September 01, 2009
so I guess men like C.S. Lewis was retarded? or J.R.R. Tolkien (he was on the translation committee for NIV version of the Bible, also a confessed Christian)?
read 'Mere Christianity.'
read 'Mere Christianity.'
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
You don't believe in santa claus, easter bunny, vishnu or zeus or mohammed. So you are a fence straddler too with respect to these?
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
You mean the feast where you resort to cannibalism and eat the flesh and drink the blood of man:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#53
"1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father."
You mean the loving heavenly father who killed his own son.
1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father. 2) Eternal life.
"2) Eternal life. "
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...ersion=NIV
Heaven is not eternal duh?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#53
"1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father."
You mean the loving heavenly father who killed his own son.
1) the existence of a loving Heavenly Father. 2) Eternal life.
"2) Eternal life. "
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...ersion=NIV
Heaven is not eternal duh?
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
"It means Mr. Anonymous if you follow Jesus Christ, you will be at odds, in conflict with the ways of the world, the ways of getting, greed, lusts, and hatred, instead of the way of giving, caring, and loving."
You mean if I love my father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters and even my own life I will NOT be giving caring and loving.
So only jesus makes you give, care and love that too by making you turn against your family and yourself?
Moreover why can't the muslims use the same logic in explaining away their hate phrases? By following mohammed you will be at odds in conflict with the ways of the world etc?
You mean if I love my father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters and even my own life I will NOT be giving caring and loving.
So only jesus makes you give, care and love that too by making you turn against your family and yourself?
Moreover why can't the muslims use the same logic in explaining away their hate phrases? By following mohammed you will be at odds in conflict with the ways of the world etc?
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
"I wonder Mr. Anonymous if you can do precisely what you mean in the same situation. "
But I am not the pope. I am not in public life. I am not a spiritual and moral leader who should be exemplary.
So its ok to kill and murder the jews and americans and britishers as long as you were part of the nazi group and don't have to account for your actions personally, you can all blame it on hitler and not a single other person?
But I am not the pope. I am not in public life. I am not a spiritual and moral leader who should be exemplary.
So its ok to kill and murder the jews and americans and britishers as long as you were part of the nazi group and don't have to account for your actions personally, you can all blame it on hitler and not a single other person?
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
"t is a pity Mr. Anonymous that your mind cannot grasp, comprehend, or fathom the
concept of a loving Heavenly Father and of eternal life."
Its a pity Mr kmgy that your mind cannot grasp, comprehend, or fathom the concept of a loving Vishnu and Zeus and an eternal cycle of life.
"Mr Anonymous, you are her today and gone tomorrow."
I was not here yesterday (I mean last century). I was not here for billions of years before that. I am here today. So what how does that make your pet god any more logical than say Vishnu or zeus or Shiva?
"Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever and will be rewarded with ETERNAL life."
He didn't do very well the first time around, he got nailed. Whats to prevent us from nailing him again? Some deities never learn?
"A simple analogy, Mr. Anonymous, you are invited to a sumptuous feast but you refused, in the end you failed to partake in the great feast."
You mean the feast where you eat the flesh of jesus and drink his blood? No thanks I am a pure vegetarian. I am not blood thirsty and I hate chewing on dead bodies.
concept of a loving Heavenly Father and of eternal life."
Its a pity Mr kmgy that your mind cannot grasp, comprehend, or fathom the concept of a loving Vishnu and Zeus and an eternal cycle of life.
"Mr Anonymous, you are her today and gone tomorrow."
I was not here yesterday (I mean last century). I was not here for billions of years before that. I am here today. So what how does that make your pet god any more logical than say Vishnu or zeus or Shiva?
"Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever and will be rewarded with ETERNAL life."
He didn't do very well the first time around, he got nailed. Whats to prevent us from nailing him again? Some deities never learn?
"A simple analogy, Mr. Anonymous, you are invited to a sumptuous feast but you refused, in the end you failed to partake in the great feast."
You mean the feast where you eat the flesh of jesus and drink his blood? No thanks I am a pure vegetarian. I am not blood thirsty and I hate chewing on dead bodies.
written by a guest , September 02, 2009
"(I mean last century)." should read I mean 100 years ago, I was here last century. a typo
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
--"You mean the feast where you eat the flesh of jesus and drink his blood? No thanks I am a pure vegetarian. I am not blood thirsty and I hate chewing on dead bodies."--
Here is the verse which you grossly distorted to malign Christianity,
1 Corinthians 11:23-26, "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
It is bread and wine, Mr. Anonymous, not flesh and blood. The verse speak for itself.
Some people whatever their agenda, will do anything to distort the truth.
Here is the verse which you grossly distorted to malign Christianity,
1 Corinthians 11:23-26, "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
It is bread and wine, Mr. Anonymous, not flesh and blood. The verse speak for itself.
Some people whatever their agenda, will do anything to distort the truth.
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
--"When talking with children who do not depend on logic but on fantasy books it is better to use ridicule to shake them into senses, because they can't understand logic or reasoning."--
Atheists are the ones illogical for their gray matter cannot comprehend the Designer behind the design.
Atheists are the ones illogical for their gray matter cannot comprehend the Designer behind the design.
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
Are you a High Priest of the Religion of Falsehood?
written by F R Ahsan , September 02, 2009
Didnt read all that as very direspectful. We worship only Allah nothing else.
It should be noted that Muslims do not worship the Ka'aba and its environs. Rather, it serves as a focal and unifying point among the Muslim people. During daily prayers, Muslims face toward the Ka'aba from wherever they are in the world (this is known as "facing the qiblah"). During the annual pilgrimage ("Hajj"), Muslims walk around around the Ka'aba in a According to the Qur'an, the Ka'aba was built by the prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael as a house of monotheistic worhip. However, by the time of Muhammad, the Ka'aba had been taken over by pagan Arabs to house their numerous tribal gods. In 630 A.D., Muhammad and his followers took over leadership of Mecca after years of persecution. Muhammad destroyed the idols inside the Ka'aba and re-dedicated it as a house of monotheistic worship.counter-clockwise direction (a ritual known as "tawaf").
Like I keep stating ther is evil and good in this world and will be till the end of time. When the Day Of Judgement comes all will be revealed. Who will be full of regret then?? No one will be there to help you and remember the hereafter is for ever lasting and eternal.
It should be noted that Muslims do not worship the Ka'aba and its environs. Rather, it serves as a focal and unifying point among the Muslim people. During daily prayers, Muslims face toward the Ka'aba from wherever they are in the world (this is known as "facing the qiblah"). During the annual pilgrimage ("Hajj"), Muslims walk around around the Ka'aba in a According to the Qur'an, the Ka'aba was built by the prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael as a house of monotheistic worhip. However, by the time of Muhammad, the Ka'aba had been taken over by pagan Arabs to house their numerous tribal gods. In 630 A.D., Muhammad and his followers took over leadership of Mecca after years of persecution. Muhammad destroyed the idols inside the Ka'aba and re-dedicated it as a house of monotheistic worship.counter-clockwise direction (a ritual known as "tawaf").
Like I keep stating ther is evil and good in this world and will be till the end of time. When the Day Of Judgement comes all will be revealed. Who will be full of regret then?? No one will be there to help you and remember the hereafter is for ever lasting and eternal.
written by F R Ahsan , September 02, 2009
Your heart and mind is sealed. Islam has been on the earth since day 1. All will be revealed soon and you will get to know the truth. Enjoy your life here now, but you will pay for your actions in the everlasting eternal hereafter.
Read the Quran with a open mind without any impressions and prejudices- set them aside - clear your mind first. You will be surprised as it only teaches good.
Read the Quran with a open mind without any impressions and prejudices- set them aside - clear your mind first. You will be surprised as it only teaches good.
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
Either you are misinformed or on a crusade to malign Christianity. It is not flesh and blood but bread and wine and a remembrance to Jesus until His Second Coming.
1 Corinthians 11:23-26,
After all, I passed on to you what I had received from the Lord. On the night he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took bread and spoke a prayer of thanksgiving. He broke the bread and said, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this to remember me. When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup is the new promise made with my blood. Every time you drink from it, do it to remember me." Every time you eat this bread and drink from this cup, you tell about the Lord's death until he comes.
1 Corinthians 11:23-26,
After all, I passed on to you what I had received from the Lord. On the night he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took bread and spoke a prayer of thanksgiving. He broke the bread and said, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this to remember me. When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup is the new promise made with my blood. Every time you drink from it, do it to remember me." Every time you eat this bread and drink from this cup, you tell about the Lord's death until he comes.
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
--"So its ok to kill and murder the jews and americans and britishers as long as you were part of the nazi group and don't have to account for your actions personally, you can all blame it on hitler and not a single other person?"--
The Nazi war criminals were convicted by the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, Germany from1945 to 1946.
You distort history for your questionable agenda.
The Nazi war criminals were convicted by the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, Germany from1945 to 1946.
You distort history for your questionable agenda.
written by kmgy , September 02, 2009
Koran is filled with hate, commanding Muslim followers to kill the unbelievers, not to make friends with the Jews and Christians. Muhammad, the supposedly "holy" prophet of Islam murdered 900 Jews in one day, raped female captives on the same day their husbands were slaughtered, engaged in kidnap for ransom (now emulated by die hard Islamists), plundered rich caravans, married 6-year old Aisha, and other countless inhuman acts.
Open your eyes F R Ashan.
Open your eyes F R Ashan.
written by a guest , September 05, 2009
"This is my body, which is given for you. Do this to remember me. When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup is the new promise made with my blood. Every time you drink from it, do it to remember me.""
If you think symbolic cannibalism is ok then there is something terribly wrong with you. Anyone who recommends symbolic cannibalism is not a god at all but satan.
"Either you are misinformed or on a crusade to malign Christianity"
Is this some kind of signature that you attach to all your posts?
If you think symbolic cannibalism is ok then there is something terribly wrong with you. Anyone who recommends symbolic cannibalism is not a god at all but satan.
"Either you are misinformed or on a crusade to malign Christianity"
Is this some kind of signature that you attach to all your posts?
written by a guest , September 05, 2009
Cannibalism even when it is symbolic is highly disgusting and gross and Ewww makes me want to vomit.
"Are you a High Priest of the Religion of Falsehood?"
I don't have religion at all. Thank Gods!
"Are you a High Priest of the Religion of Falsehood?"
I don't have religion at all. Thank Gods!
written by a guest , September 05, 2009
"The truth Mr. F R Ahsan et al, is, Jesus Christ died on the cross 2,000 years ago, BUT He resurrected on the third day and later ascended unto heaven as witnessed by his disciples. He will come again as He said to JUDGE the living and the dead and will grant ETERNAL LIFE to those who remain faithful to Him, and that excludes Muslims who remain faithful to Muhammad, the personification of evil, also Hindus, pagans, rabid Nazis, communists, and atheists."
"Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever"
Answer this simple question: If his original purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever", after he got resurrected why didn't he stay behind and complete his purpose? Why didn't he rule us for the past 2000 years?
Why did he run away to heaven? Why have a second coming at all when he could have stayed right here after resurrection?
The only logical reason that I can think of is that the resurrection story is a fraud and the fraudsters had to explain his absence after resurrection so they concocted this story of his flying away to heaven and you credulous dupes have never bothered to ask why he ran away to heaven if his purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever"?.
Answer this simple question to yourself, why did he run away to heaven? Once you answer that honestly and logically without brushing the question under the rug called "it was gods plan", you will escape the colossal fraud called Christianity and become free.
"Those who remain faithful to Jesus Christ are expecting His Second Coming to RULE AS KING over mankind forever"
Answer this simple question: If his original purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever", after he got resurrected why didn't he stay behind and complete his purpose? Why didn't he rule us for the past 2000 years?
Why did he run away to heaven? Why have a second coming at all when he could have stayed right here after resurrection?
The only logical reason that I can think of is that the resurrection story is a fraud and the fraudsters had to explain his absence after resurrection so they concocted this story of his flying away to heaven and you credulous dupes have never bothered to ask why he ran away to heaven if his purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever"?.
Answer this simple question to yourself, why did he run away to heaven? Once you answer that honestly and logically without brushing the question under the rug called "it was gods plan", you will escape the colossal fraud called Christianity and become free.
written by a guest , September 05, 2009
Who created the Universe? Creator.
Who created the creator? Creator B.
Who created Creator B? Creator C.
Who created Creator C? Creator D. and so on ad infinitum.
If you are going to stop with Creator created himself, why not stop with Universe created itself? If the creator created himself or must have existed forever, why couldn't the universe have created itself or have existed forever?
Who created the creator? Creator B.
Who created Creator B? Creator C.
Who created Creator C? Creator D. and so on ad infinitum.
If you are going to stop with Creator created himself, why not stop with Universe created itself? If the creator created himself or must have existed forever, why couldn't the universe have created itself or have existed forever?
written by a guest , September 07, 2009
"We worship only Allah nothing else. "
Answer these following questions:
Does Allah have the power to send more prophets?
Does Allah have the power to change his mind and send one more prophet after moh?
Does Allah have the power to abrogate the quran and write quran version 2?
Does Allah have the power to cancel the prophethood of mohammed?
Does Allah have the power to change the future by sending more prophets?
If you answer no to any of these questions you are just a mohammedan and quran idolater and don't believe in Allah at all.
Answer these following questions:
Does Allah have the power to send more prophets?
Does Allah have the power to change his mind and send one more prophet after moh?
Does Allah have the power to abrogate the quran and write quran version 2?
Does Allah have the power to cancel the prophethood of mohammed?
Does Allah have the power to change the future by sending more prophets?
If you answer no to any of these questions you are just a mohammedan and quran idolater and don't believe in Allah at all.
written by kmgy , September 07, 2009
You created your own puzzle. Nobody created God. Finite human minds cannot grasp the Infinite. The Universe is the handiwork of God. Human mind is like a tiny hole by the seashore unable to contain all the seas in the ocean. You cannot see the wind but you can see its effects. In the same manner you cannot see God for now but you see His handiwork.
written by kmgy , September 07, 2009
Mr. Anonymous it is not in any way even symbolic cannibalism, as you would like others to believe. If you use your gray matter, it means Jesus Christ dwells in you, meaning you follow His teachings.
written by kmgy , September 07, 2009
--"you will escape the colossal fraud called Christianity and become free."--
I believe in Jesus Christ and still a freedom loving man. There is absolutely no conflict. Freedom to choose is the wonderful gift God gave to man, even the freedom to reject Him. You follow God according to your own freewill.
--"Answer this simple question: If his original purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever", after he got resurrected why didn't he stay behind and complete his purpose? Why didn't he rule us for the past 2000 years?"--
God gave man all the time to RULE by himself without God.
One way to test obedience or faithfulness of your servants is to leave them alone by themselves without supervision for the time being. For God even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to God is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you.
I believe in Jesus Christ and still a freedom loving man. There is absolutely no conflict. Freedom to choose is the wonderful gift God gave to man, even the freedom to reject Him. You follow God according to your own freewill.
--"Answer this simple question: If his original purpose was to "RULE AS KING over mankind forever", after he got resurrected why didn't he stay behind and complete his purpose? Why didn't he rule us for the past 2000 years?"--
God gave man all the time to RULE by himself without God.
One way to test obedience or faithfulness of your servants is to leave them alone by themselves without supervision for the time being. For God even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to God is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you.
written by a guest , September 09, 2009
"Nobody created God. "
How do you know? Nobody created the Flying spaghetti monster either. Assertion without logic or proof is not evidence.
"The Universe is the handiwork of God."
The universe is the handiwork of the flying spaghetti monster.
"In the same manner you cannot see God for now but you see His handiwork. "
In the same manner you cannot see FSM for now but you can see HER handiwork.
How do you know? Nobody created the Flying spaghetti monster either. Assertion without logic or proof is not evidence.
"The Universe is the handiwork of God."
The universe is the handiwork of the flying spaghetti monster.
"In the same manner you cannot see God for now but you see His handiwork. "
In the same manner you cannot see FSM for now but you can see HER handiwork.
written by a guest , September 09, 2009
"This is my body, which is for you;”
“This cup is the new covenant in my blood;"
Only wild animals will eat body and blood of humans (symbollically or otherwise).
“This cup is the new covenant in my blood;"
Only wild animals will eat body and blood of humans (symbollically or otherwise).
written by a guest , September 09, 2009
"Memberships are assured by the threat of DEATH to those who leave Islam. Surely that is NOT the way of a LOVING Heavenly Father."
Memberships in the jesus club are assured by the threat of eternal hell. Surely that is not the way of a loving heavenly father?
Memberships in the jesus club are assured by the threat of eternal hell. Surely that is not the way of a loving heavenly father?
written by a guest , September 09, 2009
"God gave man all the time to RULE by himself without God. "
FSM gave man all the time to RULE by himself without FSM.
"For God even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to God is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you."
For FSM even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to FSM is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you.
FSM gave man all the time to RULE by himself without FSM.
"For God even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to God is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you."
For FSM even millions of years is miniscule or insignificant. The reward for being faithful to FSM is ETERNAL LIFE. If you cannot comprehend this concept, then I'm sorry for you.
written by a guest , September 09, 2009
If we are not going to depend on logic and reasoning then we can arrive at any conclusion and believe in ANY god, fraud, prophets, charlatans. Only logic and proof and testing and observations can lead us to truth. Do you then wonder why muslims stick to their stupid religion when you yourself can't comprehend the falsehoods of your religion. You brush every falsehood as gods plan. Every fault of apostles or abraham as human short coming. Such faulty logic will not lead you to truth. I am sorry for you for your foolish fantasies about eternal life.
written by F R AHSAN , September 09, 2009
How dare you!
You get your facts right. Jews Christians and Muslims all lived side by side. You know nothing! Just cut the crap and rubbish! All what you have quoted is unislamic. YOU ARE EVIL!
You will find out on the DAY OF JUDGEMENT and will pay for your actions. I know you haven't even read the Holy Quran.
Your eyes WILL be open in the hereafter when all will be revealed. YOU WILL BE FULL OF REGRETS!!!
You get your facts right. Jews Christians and Muslims all lived side by side. You know nothing! Just cut the crap and rubbish! All what you have quoted is unislamic. YOU ARE EVIL!
You will find out on the DAY OF JUDGEMENT and will pay for your actions. I know you haven't even read the Holy Quran.
Your eyes WILL be open in the hereafter when all will be revealed. YOU WILL BE FULL OF REGRETS!!!
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