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"Second, the vote was a revelation of the big gap between how the Swiss people and the Swiss elite judge political Islam."

AMEN! The feeling on the ground in Switzerland, the UK and France is extremely hostile to Islam (I can't comment for any other countries as these are my most regularly visited and the only ones I have actively pursued this issue in).

5 daily calls to prayers are broadcasted through the loud speakers on the minarets of churches in Detroit, Michigan in the USA. The non-muslims who live within several blocks of these mosques complain that their rights are violated. With an Arabic voice yelling before sun-up, filling the air, that they do not understand, blasting through the doors and windows that even after severe insulation dose not help, these residents are helpless.

Mosques and often minarets are built even in small towns and villages in the US, one is in my own neighborhood. I wish people all over the world would wake up and stop this imposition of Islam on folks who don't want it. How far does political correctness have to go to cause the average person to say, enough is enough... how much can ordinary folks stomach in the name of freedom of religion ? why is our right to say NO is not important ?

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"Second, the vote was a revelation of the big gap between how the Swiss people and the Swiss elite judge political Islam."

In reality, there is no political Islam...There is only Islam acting politically...
The idea that there are two Islams, one religious and one political is faulty...There is only one Islam...To try and split it up is blasphemy if you are a Muslim, and error if you are a kufr...What kufr people in Europe are reacting to is 'invasion'. No nation appreciates an invasion of hungry, demanding people, often violent and criminal, who show up and try and take over...The Swiss rejection of the minaret symbolizes the Swiss rejection of Islam...Round em up, ship em out, may be coming...

This disgusting action what make an iota of difference.Islam in Europe has been here for over a 1000 years,and is here to stay.

Mosques are sprouting up all over europe,many with 1000s of worshipers.
I see no need to fret as we have the upper hand against the Islamophobes.

I disagree with you. Muslims in the uk enjoying more human rights than the native residents.Yet they are asking more and more important and sensetive posts in the government dept.The dimmi prime minister giveing them what they ask for.The more islam we have in our streets the less freedom we have in our countries.It is a huge mistake to import the large number of muslims immigrants in the west since they don,t have aligance to the host country,but to their evil cult.The muslims threat is evident stand up before they deminsh your freedom the way of life.If you treat them the way they treat their religious communities in the muslim lands its perfectily ok.

Mosques are sprouting up all over europe,many with 1000s of worshipers.
I see no need to fret as we have the upper hand against the Islamophobes.

If it's not a big deal, why are so many Muslims upset about it?...

A scientific principal saladin...The tide comes in, and the tide go's out...There may be many of you 'in' at the moment, but soon that ever present tide will turn...
You will eventually have to use massive force against your kufr hosts, who will grow more resentful, and dangerous, as you move in...You will fail with this in Europe, and especially in the US, where the 'armed, dangerous, and unstable 'right wing' citizens will get fed up with your crap. Even immigrants from Mexico will turn on you...They are mostly Catholics and will also tire of your crap.
Even the skinhead, Nazi's will oppose you when they find out you want to rape their kufr sisters. Your idea of having the upper hand is an illusion caused by reciting the Quran and praying too much...Your internal vision is distorted, and you seem to suffer from cognitive dissonance...Allah does that to a lot of believers...I don't think you are ready for apostasy, but you should think about it some...rlmlq

See how spectacularly you are killing each other in Pakistan, Iraq and Afganistan. You are unfit to live or survive in the modern human society. Your days are really numbered.

When are we gonna see this hoped for
" but soon that ever present tide will turn... ",crap?

C`mon,even you degenerates must be having doubts now.

The people aint gonna follow no neo nazi scum.

Our days are numbered,everday is a Islamic day for us.

Saladin...everday is a Islamic day for us.

My condolences...That must be very painful...

European cultures are deeper and stronger than Islam. Islam is a threat that can no longer be concealed and that threat is now firmly implanted in western consciousness. Muslims have acted too soon to press for preferential treatment and have invoked a political reaction. They should have waited another half century and relied upon the ethnographic time bomb. Their premature agitation will cost them their desired supremacy We will be reminded each time there is an election and each time there is a jihadist atrocity. Political parties are changing policies so that they no longer alienate the indigenous population. You can fool some of the people some of the time...

Already immigrant muslim communities are fragmented racially, tribally and by sect (the Ummah is a joke). Muslim families within those communities are riven by the stress of generational cultural differences. Muslims are obsessed with the growth of "Islamophobia" when in reality what discomforts them is their own growing fears that within a generation or two they will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

You know that the world is waking up to the smell of the shit that is islam and you are a scared little man go away!muzzie turd oh this is a woman telling you this!

Islam had a sympathetic ear with Hitler because islam and nazism are kindred spirits. Sal al Din the commenter is a typical example of the brian damage you can catch when you come in to close a contact with a brain disease like islam. Islam reminds me of BSE. The only difference is that BSE is being transmitted by cows and islam is being transmited by the putrid corpse of Muhammad ibn Abdullah (piss be upon him).

For a group of people who claim to be against "violent Islam",your very aggressive and threatening.Continually calling for war and nazi like policies.

PS Kohi, "muzzie turd oh this is a woman telling you this!",that makes sense,there was always a whiff of PMT about you.

Saladin/Kohl
Most muslims are quite irritated by having to discuss anything with a woman on equal terms.
Why do you think that the top foreign policy jobs in the west were given to women? (Hillary Clinton for USA and Cathy Ashton for EU).

The phrase "violent Islam" is tautology. When you use the word "Islam" the qualifier "violent" is redundant.

Islam exhorts muslims to wage jihad against all of us in the Dar al-Harb, until we are dead or submissive. Thus violence is an inherent characteristic of Islam.

Any criticism of Islam is met by muslims with a claim to victimhood and, however even a measured and constructive criticsm is decried as aggression. Muslims just don't get it. Freedom of religion in the west is freedom to choose a faith and to worship without penalty, not freedom from being offended by the free speech of others.

Nobody is calling for war in the way that bin Laden does. The "war on terror" was provoked by an attack that killed thousands of American citizens on American soil. The last country from which a similar attack was launched received surprise visits by Little Boy and Fat Man in August 1945. Taleban/Al Qaeda has not been targeted in this way - instead some Predator drones are being used to give the US response to the attack a more "personal" touch.

Nobody is calling for Nazi like policies. If we took that track, we'd have to recruit muslim battalions into the Waffen-SS as Hitler did in Bosnia, and invite the Grand Mufti from Al-Kuds for an extended stay to discuss common policy on the "Jewish Question".

muzzie turd oh this is a woman telling you this!",that makes sense,there was always a whiff of PMT about you.

LOL like you have ever been with a woman and not little boys/girls that your MO loved so much?

scrrew pisslam death to pisslam.

Duh Swami,

Indeed..islam is politicall cause of dien (religion) wadawla (nation/land) cannot be sepperated. IN Islam these two go hand in hand. Turkey is the only islamic nation that has devided these dien wadawla and the whole world knows Turkey is ahead in almost everything when we compare it to other islamic countries. Turkey has devided these in 1924 by Kemal AtaTurk. If it was deveided earlier Turkey belonged now to european union....but they were invected too long.

The way Islamophobes try to paint Islam as anti semitic is baffling,especially when Arabs are themselves semites.
If i didn`t know better,I would have sworn Auschwitz was in Arabia.

Six million jews died at the hands of Europeans,not muslims.

Don't let True Muslims hear you say that six million Jews were killed by Europeans. They are denying it. True Muslims have have exploded bombs in Lahore and Peshawar today. A simple question -- why do true Muslims kill people who go to the Mosque to pray?

The first mention of semite or anti-semite in this thread has just been posted by saladin.
It appears to be a response to something imagined rather than real.

Yes, both Arabs and Hebrews (biblical Israelites) are semites. That's a racial/ethnic thing, not a religious thing. By religion most Arabs are muslim and Hebrews. apart from a tiny Samaritan element, are jewish.

Anti-semitism was a term coined when the people suffering were Jewish and by usage has become inextricably linked with anti-Jewish prejudice. I have never seen it used in an anti-Arab sense or a combined anti-Arab and anti-Jew sense.

That millions of European Jews were murdered in what is commonly termed the "holocaust". That they died at the hands of European non-Jews is not generally denied or celebrated; in fact it is solomnly commemorated. At the time it was happening, the perpetrators attempted to keep it a secret because they knew it was a shameful criminal act. Today the holocaust is denied only by a lunatic fringe. In some European countries holocaust denial is a criminal offence. There remains a strain (?stain) of anti-Jewish
prejudice in European politics that is quite a separate issue from anti-Zionism.

The Grand Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini, after the failed Arab revolts against the British in Palestine (1936-1939) and Iraq (1941), fled to Germany a wanted man. Showing gratitude to his hosts, he travelled several times from Berlin to Bosnia, where in 1943 he recruited Bosniak muslims for the Handschar division of the Waffen-SS which under German command went on to slaughter 90% of Bosnia's Jews. A condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the Jewish population of Palestine would be liquidated and that Eichmann should send one of his assistants to Jerusalem as an advisor. The Grand Mufti didn't get a chance to implement his ideas. He left a defeated Germany in 1945 for Switzerland.

The Swiss in a fit of "Islamophobia", detained him and sent him back to Germany where he was arrested by the French as a war criminal, but escaped to Egypt.

why do true Muslims kill people who go to the Mosque to pray?

Because it wasn't islam what it's about. Just like in the time of the founder...it wasn't islam at all...this is been scientifficly proven. Like always there is always a nation first and then a religion is made, not the other way around. For example..the first caliphs battled eachother...they all were muslims but everyone claimed to be Allah followers and ofcourse the rival is always an infidel. The most caliphs (if they did exist as written) killed eachother or due to eachother. The sunnies killed the family of the prophet...Aisha battled Ali and then captured and is given housearrest (jail) for the rest of her life.....so when you hear a mulim say islam made the arabs victorious...then you must know it is lie. Egypt for instance became a mulim nation after 300 years. It was about power, land etc. Allah wasn't mention often in the first koran's...in one sentence: Islam as it is written by the arabs is not totally true if not all. But then again how many muslim scholars have told this before but now they are in jail or killed or they live in an western country.

This is not anything that we have not heard before.All over occupied Europe jews,and others,were rounded up and sent to Auschwitz.

That some muslims participated in this is unsurprising when you consider,Romanians,Croats,Italians,Slovenes,Spaniards,F
rench,Dutch,Danes,Belgians,Bulgarians,etc etc.

As tens of thousands of Jews fled the Spanish and Portuguese Inquisitions, Sultan Bayezid II of the Ottoman Empire welcomed Jews who were able to reach his territories. Jews fleeing Spain and Portugal were welcomed in – and found their way to – Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Thrace and other areas of Europe under Ottoman control. Jews began to arrive in Bosnia and Herzegovina in numbers in the 16th century, with Jews arriving from the Ottoman Empire, and settling mainly in Sarajevo. The first Ashkenazi Jews arrived from Hungary in 1686, when the Ottoman Turks were expelled from Hungary[2],[3].

Jews in the Ottoman Empire were generally well-treated and were recognized under the law as non-Muslims. Despite some restrictions, the Jewish communities of the Empire prospered. They were granted significant autonomy, with various rights including the right to buy real estate, to build synagogues and to conduct trade throughout the Ottoman Empire[4]. Jews, along with the other non-Muslim subjects of the Empire, were granted full equality under Ottoman law by 1856.

You see Islamophobes attempt to rewrite history,denying the glorious history of Islamic rule and civillisation in Europe.

The driving force behind the jewish holocoust was and is Eropean white supremacy and anti semitism.

Saladin, you really are quite enlightened, in not denying that millions of Jews were killed during the holocaust.

Yes, many jews (and moslems) expellled from Iberia during the "reconquista" by christians were welcomed by the Ottoman Turks. The Sultan issued a formal invitation to Jews expelled from Spain and Portugal and they started arriving in the empire in great numbers. The Sultan exclaimed at the King of Spain's lack of wisdom: "Ye call Ferdinand a wise king he who makes his land poor and ours rich!".

The jews generally survived well under Turksih rule and some rose to prominent positions. Over the centuries there were in the Ottoman Empire some incidents of oppression and persecution of minorities including local expulsions and forced removals of Jews (mostly in Arab parts of the empire in Syria/Palestine and Hejaz) and massacres amounting to genocide of christian Armenians. Ottoman attempts to restrict Zionist immigration to Palestine in Ottoman Syria were effectively circumvented by influential European powers (notably UK and Russia). However, Turkey was among the first countries to recognise the State of Israel.