A review of Wafa Sultan's book, "A God Who Hates"...
From Andrew Bostom's Blog.
On Tuesday, October 13, 2009, an ominous interim decision was reached in the case of 17 year- old Sri Lankan native, and Christian “apostate” from Islam, Rifqa Bary. Rifqa fled her Ohio community—notably, the radicalized mosque she was compelled to attend, which revealed and condemned her apostasy. She sought refuge in Orlando, Florida, when Muhammad Bary, Rifqa’s father threatened to murder the young Muslim woman apostate—the consensus draconian punishment for “unrepentant” apostasy from Islam sanctioned by all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence, Sunni and Shiite alike, to this day. (For irrefragable examples, see these contemporary Sunni rulings by Al Azhar University, in Cairo, Egypt, the Mufti of Lebanon, and IslamonLine [here; here], website of the mainstream, immensely popular Muslim Brotherhood cleric, and Al Jazeera personality Yusuf al-Qaradawi, as well as this Shiite legal opinion published in Kayhan International, an official organ of the Islamic Republic of Iran).
Pending determination of her parent’s immigration status—extant public access documentary evidence revealed by investigative journalist par excellence Pamela Geller indicates they are illegal aliens—Florida judge Daniel Dawson has ordered that Rifqa Bary be returned to Ohio under the jurisdiction of an Ohio court.
It is a bitter irony that Tuesday, October 13, 2009 also marked the US release of Syrian-born psychiatrist Wafa Sultan’s book “A God Who Hates”—the vigorously argued jeremiad written by our era’s most courageous and insightful secular Muslim woman. Sultan is currently forced to lead a clandestine existence here in America, due to the repeated, ongoing death threats she receives for her own “apostasy,” including those “inspired” by a Yusuf al-Qaradawi appearance on Al-Jazeera television when he proclaimed, “…this woman had the audacity to affront all that is sacred—the entire Islamic nation, its past, its present, and its future. She had the audacity to affront the Prophet, the Koran, and Allah. She even said that Allah prattles in the Koran. She did not omit anything sacred.”
More than two decades before Wafa Sultan’s Al-Jazeera television debate with a Muslim cleric ignited an international firestorm, she traced her own transformative “intellectual shock” to reading two books by Saudi writer and freethinker Abdullah al-Qasimi, who fled his native country after being (predictably) condemned to death for “apostasy/blasphemy.” Regarding al-Qasimi’s criticism of Islam, Wafa Sultan observes that he,
…attacked Islam…in such a way as to make the closed mind stop and really think. He was an original and creative writer with an excellent command of Arabic. His style was enjoyable to read and easy to understand, and it led his readers almost imperceptibly to the point where they could not help but agree with him, at least privately. The fact that he was from Saudi Arabia, the cradle of Islam, gave him another kind of authenticity.
She describes how al-Qasimi’s taboo writings were privately shared:
His books were not readily available, but we found a way to get copies and share them. I remember a young woman in her early twenties at the hospital where I worked once confessed to me secretly that she read Al-Qasimi’s works, and asked if she could borrow one of them from me. I wrapped the book in one of my dresses to conceal it and, as I gave it to her, made a great show of telling her she could wear the dress to her sister’s wedding on condition she return it afterwards.
Wafa also acknowledges her recurrent fear of revealing she had read al-Qasimi, “lest she should be accused of apostasy.” At that time, she states,
Like most Muslims today, I tried to interpret everything on the basis of a belief that I was frightened to see contradicted: I believed that people’s interpretation of Islam, rather than Islam itself, was responsible for the shortcomings of our Muslim countries.
Moreover, Wafa admits that her devoted husband was reassured by this mindset because,
…he had felt from the outset that my belief that it was Muslims rather than Islam that was at fault would perhaps help protect us from the potentially serious consequences of living in a society that did not permit its individual members to take the smallest step toward examining any of its taboos…
The riveting personal narrative of “A God Who Hates” makes plain that Wafa Sultan’s views have evolved, and she now posits that Islam itself is the bane of the global Muslim community, or “umma.” She argues compellingly that traditional, mainstream conceptions of the God of Islam, Allah, and his Apostle Muhammad, bear ultimate responsibility for the bellicose aggressiveness, intolerance, and misogyny that pervade Muslim societies. Indeed, the book’s central motif characterizes Islam’s Allah as the deceptively fierce ogre in an Arabian parable, raging from his mountaintop perch:
From where he sits, he raves and shrieks, filling people’s hearts with fear by threatening to gobble them up if they leave their homes or do any kind of work at all. The people terrorized by his shrieks, can live only by stealth. Only their survival instinct keeps them going. They steal out like mice in secret to gather enough to keep body and soul together. They live day by day, waiting impatiently for the moment of their death. The fear of this ogre has sapped their intellect and depleted their physical powers, reducing them to despair and hopelessness.
Muhammad, Allah’s Apostle, she notes unapologetically, “…was a warrior rather than a thinker.” Thus, she continues,
He left no moral legacy for his followers to build upon or use as a basis for the societies they founded. Nor did he leave them room outside the boundaries of this law in which they might have exercised their freedoms and perhaps, responding to the demands of time, have invented a moral code of their own. The most important traditions written and handed down about Muhammad concern his raids and what happened in the course of them. All his teachings stem from the realities of the world he lived in and are the indisputable product of it. If you read the biography of the Prophet from beginning to end you will find no trace of any kind of moral authority.
And in response to the query, “Why do they hate us?”—incessantly repeated by naïve, hapless Americans following the 9/11/01 carnage—Wafa Sultan provides these answers:
“Because Muslims hate their women, and any group who hates their women can’t love anyone else.”
People [then] ask, “But why do Muslims hate their women?”
And I reply, “Because their god does.”
Sultan further argues that the Koranic injunction (33:21) sanctioning Muhammad as the idealized model for all Muslims, eternally, amplifies Islam’s virulent misogyny:
The most terrifying…part…comes from the Prophet’s stories about his wives that create a trap every Muslim woman falls into: No man in my life can be better than his Prophet and I cannot be less obedient to him than his Prophet’s wives were to their husband. Men have internalized their Prophet, and women have internalized his wives.
She illustrates this closed circle of misogynistic humiliation that Muslim women even inflict, perversely, upon each other, with a wrenching anecdote about her “naming”—repeated throughout Wafa’s childhood by her mother to “amuse” local acquaintances:
My earliest memory of my mother is her story of how she chose my name. She laughed when she told me the story, but I always wondered if she was crying inside. She told me she was not very happy at my arrival, and neither was my father, needless to say. My paternal uncle’s wife had already had two boys before her. Under pressure from this calamity she was at a loss as to what name to give me. One morning my paternal uncle was passing by the veranda of our house when he saw my mother carrying me in her arms. He greeted her and asked: “Haven’t you chosen a name for her yet?” My mother replied: “Not yet. Do you have any suggestions?” My uncle said without hesitation: “Call her ‘Shit,’ it’s the only name she deserves.”
My mother told this story hundreds of times when I was within earshot. She would tell it jokingly to amuse her female friends from the neighborhood, unaware of how deeply she hurt me each time she said it. And do, to my tattoo [Note: Sultan operationally defines tattoo earlier as a congenital composite of “a person’s family values, principles, customs, and traditions.”], my mother added the name Shit at the behest of my uncle. Her own tattoo, however, handed down through the centuries dictated her treatment of me.
Another series of anecdotes characterize Wafa Sultan’s encounters with highly educated Muslim professionals. Such interactions reinforce the author’s contention about the profoundly deleterious impact of Islam’s unreformed, triumphantly asserted dogmas. Her erudite interlocutors’ reactions also confirm the view of the Saudi “apostate” author Wafa cites as her inspiration, al-Qasimi, who observed (in his, “Desert with No Precincts” [Arabic: Sahra Bila Ab’ad]) that Arab Muslim culture,
“… does not appreciate criticism; they do not even know it… It is a plot, and treason against authenticity… [Arabs] consider their worst enemies those who try to correct their ideas and beliefs.” Two examples describing initially reasoned discussions about Allah’s named attribute “The Harmer”—both degenerating into vituperative accusations of Wafa Sultan’s “apostasy” and “blasphemy”—will suffice.
“The Harmer” is one of the attributes they have given to the God of Islam. Is it reasonable that God should cause harm? Yet this is an attribute which Muslims bestow on their god and take pride in, just as they take pride in describing him as “The Merciful” and “The Patient.” “The Subduer.” “The Compeller,” “The Imperious,” “The Humiliator,” “The Nourisher,” “The Bringer of Death,” “The Most High,” “The Avenger,” “The Protector”—all these are attributes they bestowed upon their ogre and subsequently internalized in an attempt to merge with their ideal.
Whenever I discuss the legitimacy and morality of these names with erudite Muslims I hear nothing but shouts and screams that within minutes turn the dialogue into a futile quarrel. They cannot confront the negativism of these attributes other than by a desperate attempt to justify them, but when they do this they make things worse. Muslims justify portraying God as The Harmer because they believe such a portrayal is necessary in order to strike fear into people’s hearts and prevent them from disobeying God’s commands. They say: “When a person believes in God’s ability to harm he will take care not to disobey him, so as to avoid being harmed by him.”
I once tried to find common ground on this very point with a Muslim reader from London, an Oxford University graduate with whom I conducted an extensive e-mail correspondence. She wrote to me on one occasion: “Can you deny that God is capable of causing harm? Could he not destroy the universe if he wanted to?” She continued: “What’s wrong with proclaiming his destructive powers? Isn’t this necessary in order to prevent people from crossing the line and disobeying his commands?” I replied: “A father has the ability to harm his child when he disobeys him, but does he do so? Is that the proper way to educate our children not to overstep the boundaries we set for them?” The Oxford graduate responded: “There is no comparison! The difference between God’s power and that of a human being is much greater than the difference between a father’s and a son’s.” I replied: “But shouldn’t God’s wisdom, mercy, and love far surpass the wisdom, mercy, and love of a father?” The exchange turned into a fruitless quarrel at the end of which I heard only the e-mailed shouts of the Oxford graduate as she described me as a misguided unbeliever and apostate deserving only of being put to death.”
…Arguing with Muslims becomes more complicated when they try to persuade you that their God is also merciful, patient, and forbearing. I asked a Muslim doctor who specializes in psychiatry: “How can you persuade your son that God is simultaneously merciful and vengeful? Doesn’t teaching this type of religious lesson contain a contradiction which splits the child’s personality and makes him feel more lost and confused?” He replied: “No. I teach him that God is merciful with believers and vengeful toward unbelievers. I don’t see any contradiction in this.” I asked again: “How do you teach your son to tell the difference between believers and unbelievers so that he’ll know with whom to be merciful and toward whom to be vengeful?” He said, beaming: “A believer is one who believes in God, his Prophet, and the Day of Judgment and so forth.” I inquired: “So when your son hijacks a civilian plane full of passengers, hurtles into a tower, and kills three thousand ‘unbelievers’ he won’t be doing anything outside the boundaries of what his God and ideal would do? Is that the way to distinguish between believers and unbelievers?” The conversation ended with shouts and screams and turned into a futile argument that led only to my being accused of blasphemy, apostasy, and sympathy for the enemies of God and his Prophet!”
Perhaps more disturbing are Wafa Sultan’s revelations about how the same irredentist attitudes permeate the US Muslim community. Her trenchant analysis of this phenomenon is unsparing in its criticism of the self-delusional behaviors of US religious and political leaders who wittingly or unwittingly promote irredentism in America.
Two salient examples Sultan provides illustrate these trends. Shortly after the murderous 9/11 jihad terrorist attacks, a Los Angeles Islamic center donated copies of “The Meaning of the Holy Qur’an” (which is merely Yusuf Ali’s annotated, mainstream English translation of the Koran) to the Los Angeles United School District. After an urgent meeting between local Jewish and Muslim leaders, however, Sultan notes,
…the books were withdrawn from the schools and returned to the Islamic center because some of the teachings they contained offended members of other religious denominations. The Los Angeles Times reported the story on February 12, 2002, in an article entitled, “New Version Will Replace Pulled Koran.”
She continues,
The article mentions that Mr. Dafer Dakhil, head of the Omar Ibn Al Khattab Foundation, e-mailed a reaction to the Times, in which he wrote: “The purpose of our gift was to promote greater understanding of Islam and Muslims at a time when misconceptions and interest in Islam about Islam and Muslims are at a peak, and to provide educators, and students an opportunity to use Qur’an alongside the Bible and scriptures of other faiths.” Mr. Dakhil had already apologized as follows: “We didn’t mean to hurt the feelings or cause discomfort to members of other faiths.” Salam al-Maryati, spokesman for the Muslim Public Affairs Council, explained: “In the interest of good faith and goodwill and being sensitive to people’s concerns we agreed that the books should not be used.” According to the Los Angeles Times article, “Mr. Al-Maryati and other Muslims at the meeting agreed to work with school officials to find another version of the Quran as soon as possible.”
Wafa Sultan then poses these still unanswered queries:
Then, as now, I am filled with questions about what happened: What other version of the Koran, as soon as possible? How would Mr. Al-Maryati interpret for us in his new version the Koranic verse quoted above? (i.e., referring to 5:33, Yusuf Ali translation, “The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter”) Would he tell our children that this verse is no longer applicable in the present day? Ever since I have followed the news closely but I have never heard that Mr. Al-Maryati has managed to come up with a different version. Nor do I know how long he meant when he said “as soon as possible.” The article say the meeting took place behind closed doors. Why did the debate not take place publicly? Has Mr. Al-Maryati explained to all Muslims, both here and in Muslim countries, the actual reasons that version of the book was withdrawn from Los Angeles schools, and has he tried to have it removed from schools throughout the world? What is morally unacceptable in Los Angeles should be morally unacceptable elsewhere, even throughout the Middle East, as morality does not vary with time or place. Why did Mr. Al-Maryati withdraw the books from schools in Los Angeles while allowing others to distribute prizes to Muslim children who excelled at memorizing them at the Islamic school affiliated to the mosque in Anaheim?
She further notes, “This is not the only incident, unfortunately, of a Muslim saying one thing to an English speaking audience and something else entirely to an Arabic-speaking one.” Sultan asks additional questions, leading to her ominous conclusion:
Why do countries in the West allow Muslims who live among them to pretend to be moderates when they speak in Western languages, but don’t criticize them for radical Islamic views when they address the Muslim world in their native languages? This story is just the tip of an iceberg, which represents the increasing Islamization of the West and, especially, of the United States.
The final chapter of “A God Who Hates” includes Wafa Sultan’s devastating critique of remarks Colin Powell made during the latter phase of the 2008 US Presidential election campaign. Appearing on NBC television’s “Meet The Press,” Powell glibly asserted nothing would be wrong with Americans choosing a Muslim President. Wafa Sultan’s analysis of this comment exposes both the terribly dangerous flaws in Powell’s limited, naïve understanding of Islam, and how that ignorance is compounded by obligatory allegations of “anti-Muslim prejudice” (or “Islamophobia”), precluding any rational discussion of the very real threat mainstream Islamic doctrine poses.
I know that Mr. Powell, who lives by the American moral code on which he was nurtured, refuses to judge people on the basis of their religious affiliation, and that is his right. But he does not have the right to be ignorant or to disregard the fact that Islam is not just a religion: It is a political doctrine that imposes itself by force, and we have to subject to microscopic scrutiny any Muslim in America who ascends to the heights of this sensitive and supremely important post.
I would not want anyone to regard what I am saying as anti-Muslim prejudice. Muslims, like any other national group, can be either good or bad, and the best among them do not act in accordance with the teachings of their religion, either because they are not familiar with them, or because they have deliberately progressed beyond them; but to understand what it would mean for a Muslim to become President of the United States, one must search through Islamic history—the history of the Arabs, which is my own history—for a Muslim leader and look at his actions.
The first and most obvious Muslim leader we meet in our search is Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam. Had Mr. Powell read the life of Muhammad, as it is recounted in the Arabic sources and as I learned it in my schooldays, he would fall down in a dead faint. In third grade at primary school I read with pride in our religious primer how Muhammad had beheaded 800 Jews from the Bani Quraiza tribe in one night, then taken their wives and children hostage, and spent the same night with the Jewish woman Safia, whose husband, father, and brother he had just killed. This is only a drop in the ocean of what was written about the crimes of Muhammad in the Arabic sources, but, unfortunately, Mr. Powell—it seems—has never troubled to familiarize himself with the most malicious enemy ever to have confronted him or threatened his safety. Once Americans understand that the Koran insists that Muhammad is the ideal that every Muslim male should imitate, they will realize that a Muslim candidate for the American presidency is a very serious matter.
She concludes with these truths that have yet to penetrate the uninformed, self-righteous hubris of American leaders like Colin Powell:
If America had used a small and insignificant proportion of what it spent on the war against terrorism to fund the translation of so far largely untranslated Islamic dogma and history from Arabic sources, it would have saved billions of dollars—let alone a great del of wasted time and spilled blood. America will never win the war until Americans read about Islam from Arab sources, word for word, without distortion or falsification. Reading this material will enable them to draw their own personal conclusions and help them to understand what kind of enemy they are facing. If Colin Powell becomes one of the people who reads the translated sources and sees the hate and violence they contain, he will bite his lip and say to himself: “I was ignorant of the true nature of my enemy, and this was my worst failing.”
Six years ago, Ibn Warraq, in his seminal study of apostasy from Islam, “Leaving Islam,” compared the ex-Muslim apostates of our era, to the ex-Communist writers whose work was compiled in Richard Crossman’s 1950, “The God That Failed.” Warraq wrote in 2003:
As Arthur Koestler said, “You hate our Cassandra cries and resent us as allies, but when all is said, we ex-Communists are the only people on your side who know what it is all about.” And as Richard Crossman wrote in his introduction to The God That Failed, “Silone [an ex-Communist] was joking when he said to Togliatti that the final battle would be between the Communists and the ex-Communists. But no one who has not wrestled with Communism as a philosophy and Communists as political opponents can really understand the values of Western democracy. The Devil once lived in Heaven, and those who have not met him are unlikely to recognize an angel when they see one.”
…[U]nless a reformed, tolerant, liberal kind of Islam emerges soon, perhaps the final battle will be between Islam and Western democracy. And these former Muslims, to echo Kestler’s words, on the side of Western democracy are the only ones who know what it’s all about, and we would do well to listen to their Cassandra cries.
Wafa Sultan’s “A God Who Hates” confirms the brilliance of Ibn Warraq’s recent analogy.
But the only relevant question remains unanswered, “Will we hear her Cassandra cries?”
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written by Anti Clot , October 27, 2009
written by Saladin , October 27, 2009
She is exiled from the muslim ummah.
written by Anti Clot , October 27, 2009
written by Singh , October 27, 2009
http://defenders-of-dharma.blogspot.com/
written by Wafa Sultan admirer , October 27, 2009
You should start a movement to liberate Muslim girls from this evil political system call Islam
written by non believer , October 28, 2009
Who cares for human life? Not Muslims anyway. For they have to sacrifice this beutiful world without enjoying it, without loving anybody. Itching to hate those who do not agree with them. All for the sake of an imaginary heaven which may or may not be there.
written by vbv , October 28, 2009
Let there be more Wafa Sultans in future,the world will support them.
written by non believer , October 28, 2009
No place for Brains in Muslim Ummah. Only sheep or bakrahs can be Muslims. That is why they celebrate Bakrid. If you don not want to be sheep you will be treated like sheep. KILLED. No debates No discussion. either agree to what a non thinker contrived and said that Gabriel or get killed.Never ever doubt the veracity of his antics. Spoil your and others' beautiful today for the sake of an unknown tomorrow called Heaven with Houries. Stop drinking wine on earth to swim in an imaginery river of wine. If you are a Shia kill Sunnis, If you are a sunni kill shias. Both together KILL Ahmediyas, Christians,Hindus etc. In the name of ALLAH the most benevolent and merciful bring hell to earth.
written by Machmoed elchalid , October 28, 2009
written by a guest , October 28, 2009
written by 72 virgins..... , October 28, 2009
why only muzzie men get 72 virgins in imaginary jannat,why woman does not get even 3 hunks ???
no mulla ever answers.
its bcoz no allah,no jannat,no virgins.
written by Archpagan , October 28, 2009
written by tanstaafl , October 28, 2009
written by A.B. , October 28, 2009
written by crusader , October 28, 2009
written by InfidelUnion , October 28, 2009
World would have been a better place without islam, nazism and communism.
written by jbrl12357 , October 28, 2009
It is normal to have a small number of people convert back and forth between religions.
What is unique to Islam however, and where it stands out to other religions is in the punishment given to those who dare leave the religion. In additon is the severe restrictions placed on any proselytization by other religions in predominantly muslim countries. In Europe, the muslims are not subjeted to such unequal treatment and may freely worship and proselytize. Do you see any unfairness in that double standard?
Can you name an Islamic country where someone feels free to leave Islam and announce to his family and society that he has become buddhist or christian?
Please go read something about that.
written by Indian , October 28, 2009
written by then why r u here,when this si , October 29, 2009
surely i pisslaamic allah wgho is imaginary will burn u in his hell for this.
written by the ppl who embraced islam did , October 29, 2009
ie faithfreedom and islwatch.
they were converted by deciet,and false propoganda of musklims.
pls let people know real islam ie shariat based islam and also the siets of divine prophets like faithfreedom and islam watch run by true propghets like ali sina and m.a.khan.
then let people decide,this facility shud eb given to all people all over the world,incl saudi-pakistan etc.
in no time islam will be destroyed.
liars lie abt real islam,and yr truth is exposed,i am an ex-muslims and know what taquia u do.
written by i am better at poetry than ara , October 29, 2009
a sunni muslim a relative asked me if i can create
verses better than muhamed/allah/aabs.
i made it instantly.
there is no pig other than allah and muhamed is is pisspoopoo
it proves anyone is better than muhamed/allah/arabs who r the scum of the earth,lower than any animal.
ofcourse i had to run fast ebfore he cud get out his gun to shoot me.
written by Student , October 29, 2009
Please remember a 'peaceful muslim' is either a 'dead muslim' or 'ex-muslim' and we all want ex-muslims not dead muslims.
written by 3x , October 30, 2009
written by Anti Clot , October 30, 2009
written by Archpagan , October 30, 2009
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_science
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
It is well known that if you enter our religion with your will, the first thing said by the sheikh is that there is no returning back and that you must be fully convinced that you want to be a muslim. And nevertheless, we can see that Islam is still spreading faster than fire in the wind, because it addresses the minds and souls togather.
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_science
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
Papua New Guineans began converting to Islam in the early 1980s, and there are now more than 4,000 followers with recent reports of entire villages converting at the same time. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/sto...422255.htm)
The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
(http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/)
written by To A.B. , October 30, 2009
If you see muslims leaving islam are Phds, intelligent workers and college going people. People accepting islam are abused people who had gone to jails or had been to drug, cant got father mother's love etc.
islam develops a bad effect on society and people generally do less intelligent work like salesman, cab driver or violence intensive work like army or police.
written by To A.B , October 30, 2009
Also there are many just in name muslims are there like "Ahmadi - Dr Abdus Salam"; "Dr. Abdul Kalam" etc.
Great writers like Salman Rushdie are unfortunately born in muslim family, thus in those days few muslims by name only read good books of non-islamic civilization and worked. Also many intelligent jews and christians who were forced to become muslims, worked to bring some sense to islamic madness.
Muslim population is more than 15% of the world since last 300 years, can they point one good invetion which helped humanity. Islam is the single reason of poverty, killings thats contribution.
written by To A.B , October 30, 2009
written by To A.B. , October 30, 2009
Which type of people converts to islam and what they do
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...gents.html)
What type of true muslims get laurels in science. Dr Abdus Salam (Ahmedi)
http://www.thepersecution.org/50years/salam.html
Atleast these guys(ahmedi) have made a moderate version of islam like bahai and are not among those shameful Sunni or Shia.
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
ibn-sina
alkhwarezmy
ibn el haitham.
and of course I have no shame, I am working in research in ophthalmology to return my ancestors history, and all those who work with me are nonmuslims but they respect me exaclty like I do.
written by Kohi , October 30, 2009
written by JohanM , October 30, 2009
Mind and souls..... you must be joking.
There is nothing spiritual in Islam .
written by JohanM , October 30, 2009
And me too.
By the way I am not a Muslim and as per you I do not believe in him.
written by jbrl12357 , October 30, 2009
Unfortunately, you miss the point entirely.
The numberrs you refer to don't include those who would leave like "fire in the wind" if they could. However they cannot openly do that, as you yourself are well aware.
You have not addressed the issue of double standards
in your response, and that is understandable since there is no defense for it.
Re your comment: "the first thing said by the sheikh is that there is no returning back"
Why should that be, and what happens to the person who wants to revert or become atheist, or criticise Islam ? Of course in the West they are mostly protected to exercise their free choice based on the dictates of their conscience. But what happens to such a person in a predominantly Muslim country?
written by jbrl12357 , October 30, 2009
That age is long gone, however. The truth is that it is unlikely to come back in the forseeable future for which the Ummah can at least partly thank Al -Ghazzali who closed the gates of Ijtihad so many centuries ago now.
However, if it did it would again be to the benefit of us all. Islamic civiliization as an engine of progress and innovation is much eclipsed now by China, and posssibly India.
Nevertheless there are muslim scientists who are making significant contributions, though they are working mainly in the West, and their efforts should be noted and appreciated.
written by To A.B. , October 30, 2009
written by To A.B. , October 30, 2009
written by globe trotter , October 30, 2009
written by Nimrod , October 30, 2009
written by Nimrod , October 30, 2009
A. Abraham Authority, and covenant with God is lacking in
Islam. The Arab connection through Ishmaels to Abraham covenant lack Bible confirmation Gen,17:20-22
B. Blood sacrifice and atonement for remission of mans’sin established long before Islam as bases for the reconciliation with God is denied in Islam. Lev 11: 17 Heb 9:22 Yet in Islam it believes that at the drop of the blood of suicide bombers and murderers in the name of martyr all his sins are forgiven which is the only sure way to salvation.
C. Christ the messiah, the son of God, the only savior which is the central message in both the old and new testament is denied in Islam. Gen 3:15 Isa,7:14,9:6,53:1-12,Jn 3:16 Islam became the first Antichrist religion with clear signs of denying the son, the father and the Holy Ghost 1Jn 2:22
D. Divine relation, dignity of human life is rubbished in Islam God’s commandments do not count in Islam Any evil committed to establish Islam is permitted in Islam.
E. Exemplary life style of holiness, righteousness, faithfulness of the messenger is to be followed as demonstrated in the Bible prophets. But the life style of the Islam prophet was bad, he was religious without righteousness. He was a pirate, an assassin, a murder, adulterer, a rapist and polygamist. Those are not good virtues to follow but Islam teaches that Mohammed is the best of creation to be followed.
F. Freedom of faith, worship and choice which is central to Bible or scripture base faith or religion is lacking in Islam there is no freedom to choose whom to serve. Islam started without given choice to prospecting converts. The only choice is Islam or death or remains a slave and if you wanted to leave Islam you face death sentence. This cannot be a true religion of Abraham.
G. Grace and faith in Christ is the basis and means of Salvation. This is the testimony of both the old testament and the new, But Islam says salvation is by works only,
H. Heaven is a holy place prepared for holy people no sinner will go there according to the Bible but the Koran depiction of heaven looks like a brothel, gotten ready for the sensual, the polygamist and rapist,
I. Islam is polytheism rapped in the veil of monotheisms still with pagan rituals untouched The Bible monotheism appears more credible.
J. Jesus confirmed the Tora, The Psalms and the prophets as the authentic word of God. But Mohammed confirm none, and claim its corruption because it contradict Koran false prophesy.
K. Koran is the testimony of one man Mohammed while the Bible is the testimony of 40 people.One against 40.
L. Law of God is honoured and kept by the Bible prophets but Mohammed broke all the law of God and support the lawlessness with satanic verses he called the koran
M. Man is elevated above the woman and marriage is made easy for man and given a higher earthly and heavenly inheritance than the woman. Islam is a man made religion. While the man enjoy 72 virgins and 2 earthly women in heaven the woman has to share her man with 73 others. The Bible contradict this delusion. There is no marriage in heaven.
N. No divine power given to work miracles in order to confirm their divine mission. In Islam there is no proof that the message and the messenger are. No miracle no wonders no prophesy that came true but the Bible has overwhelming evidences that the message is divine.2Tim3:15-16 No religious tolerant in Islam. The cult does not allow you to leave it or you die and quench human intellect. Christianity gives liberty to choose. it allow democracy and secularism and human intellectual development.
O. Obedient to Allah and Mohammed in the Koran is the creed. In the Bible obedience to God only and His word is the ultimate demand.
P. Purity of life is attainable through faith in the atoning blood of Christ and obedience to God commandment or word. In the Koran purity of life is an external show of aimless religious ritual of washings hands legs and repetitive prayers that are hardly answered.
Q. Quality of life in Islam is poor. Women are not allowed to work. And are oppressed to depend on their husband, In Christ equal opportunity abound as a result; free countries without Islamic influence are richer and greater.
R. Right Relationship with God through Christ and his righteousness is the Bible requirement for heaven; But in the Koran it is religion and rituals that are condemned in the Bible that determines heaven.
S. Salvation is free and assured through Christ in the Bible but in the Koran is not free and no assurance through works either.
T. Terror and threat with hell fire without mercy for the unbelievers seems to be the main message of the Koran but in the Bible it is love of God and his mercy that is made manifest through the gospel of Jesus Christ Jn 3:16
U. Unbeliever have no liberty to live with the Muslim and enjoy the same facilities except they are converted but all people are the same under the gospel environment no discrimination between believers and unbelievers.
V. Victim and victors of Islam (those captured by force and those who believe in Islam) have no assurance of salvation But in Christ is assurance of salvation and eternal life.
W. Women position is very inferior to that of man and women are oppressed beyond measure in islam but in Christ women are given equal opportunity with men except were positional responsibility count.
X. Xeroxing the life of Mohammed makes one a terrorist, a polygamist, a murderer or an assassin but Xeroxing the life of chirist one becomes holy righteous, merciful and good.
Y. Yielding to islam teaching leads to economic poverty, spiritual poverty and eternal uncertainty. But yielding to Christ teaching brings happiness economic prosperity, and eternal certainty.
Z. Zainab marriage to Mohammed and the koranic revelation approving it is clear evidence that the Koran is not the word of God. The Zag-ging of the Bible stories and the threat of hell for personal gain was Mohammed method to achieving power, wealth and control of women.
written by to nimrod , October 31, 2009
written by Humanity , October 31, 2009
written by HellenoChristian , November 01, 2009
On the other hand I would add that not (just) Allah (aka Muhammad?) is a "God" who hates, but that it is a "God" who dislikes those who love.
It especially hates the Christ, which is (kabbalistically speaking) the symbol of (God's) Compassion and Love.
Islamic people appearently show to like Christian Compassion and Love (when it comes to get from Christian, they like it ...), but eventually they actively want to differentiate themselves from Christianity, and the Christ, and their/its Compassion [they even deny Jesus-the-Christ crucifixion (which says it all about their unability or unwill to understand the concept of Com-passion self)].
Islamic people (due to Islam) essentially dislike the Christ, Compassion and Love: the same image (of bleeding Jesus-the-Christ on the cross) which inspire the feeling of Com-passion in those people (and Christians) who watch it, it repels Islamic people.
Islamic people dislike to identify themselves with suffering people, and therefore show Empathy to them, and help them, love them, help them (the evidence of that is the great Poverty rate in Islamic/islamized Countries, which otherwise are inhabited by very rich people, and eventually are or could be supported by the Wealth of Petrodollars).
In Islam, there is a rejection of Empathy, of Love.
And here the Wafa Sultan's title of the book "A God who hates" perfectly suits: bravo Wafa Sultan, I admire you from the deepest of my Soul and I love your enlightened Logic, your brave Goodness and the power and beauty of your Actions (speeches, writings, ...).
Thank you! [And thanks to Site and groups like Islam-Watch for their Engagement and Job!]
written by Torelance vs Intolerance , November 01, 2009
This is how I think the ideology or culture, religion can be categorized as follows :
Group 1 – Tolerance to the tolerance, tolerance to the intolerance
(Love the love) (love the hate)
People in this group – Liberal Christian, Hindu, Budhhist, athesist, idealistic democractic system
Result (Shorterm) – Peaceful co existence
(Longterm) – Suicidal (Finaly succum to intolerance and became group 4)
Group 2 – Tolerance to the tolerance, intolerance to the intolerance
(Love the love) (Hate the hate)
People in this group – Conservative Christian, Hindu, athesist, pragmatic democractic system
Result (Shorterm) – Peace will be sacrificed
(Longterm) – Longterm peace can be achieved
Group 3 – Intolerance to tolerance, intolerance to intolerance
(Hate the love) (Hate the hate)
People in this group – Communist, totalitalian ruler, “moderate muslim”
Result(Shorterm) – Choatic
(Longterm) – Forceful peace
Group 4 – Intolerance to tolerance, tolerance to intolerance – (Hate the love) (Love the hate)
People in this group – Fundamental muslim, religious fanatic, , Nazism
Result(Shorterm) – Choatic society
(Longterm) – Perpetual war
The problem with group 1. the liberal Christian, Hindu and Budhhist is that they believed that a paradise can be acheived if everybody learn to be tolerance to both love and hate and finally the society will be transformed into an ideal society,. There will be no war or infighting. History has shown us again and agian, that ideal has never being attained. Everytime when a society progress towards idealistic democractic paradise, the dark force of hate will take advantage of its weakness and bring the hold system down to ruin because the group 1 do not have the defence against the hate. This is same like our human body, if we do not have a sense of danger, we can be destroyed by desease or other.
Group 2. may not be idealistic, but it is alway important that we do not let our guards down against the hate We need to learn to love, yet we need to learn to be intolerance to hate. This could be discrimative but it is only against the hate. That is why Mein Kampf is being banned in Europe. When we are tolerance to love, over indulgence creep in and society will start to hate the love. Loving the love will not push the society to hate but loving the hate can push the society to hate. Between the devil and the deep blue sea, it is still prefer the imperfection of loving the love and hating the hate. The Islamist always use the weakness of Western society of loving the love as society decadants to win their arguement.
Group 3, may be brutal, I still believe that it will not be as brutal as group 4. This group is far from ideal and people will sufer under silent. Society must resist this to happen.
Group 4, This is the most dengerous and destructive group. If the soceity do not take swift action to stamp of this group whenver it exist, the society will be destroy. I hope that the Liberal will heed my advise and joint the conservative to nip the bud before it is too late.
written by saladin , November 01, 2009
People in the "west", care about satisfying their basic needs,like paying the rent and putting food on the table.Nobody has the time or inclination to read through mountains of drivel and gush.
This waffa character is just trying to ingratiate her worthless self with racists,zionists,fascist and militarists.Once she has served her purpose,she will be tossed aside like the quisling she is.
However,Islam is a religion of mercy,if she prostrates herself,and repents she may be redeemed.
written by Shibli Zaman , November 02, 2009
written by Anti Clot , November 02, 2009
written by ha ha ha ...... , November 03, 2009
Well, I think this bad morality rooted back to Mohammad's time on earth. No morality code in islam,
even between themselves, killing each other can be done if necessary. You can see in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, moslem suicide bomber killing other islamic people.
Something comes from shit is always shit too. Ha ha ha .......
written by COMMON SENCE , November 03, 2009
written by a guest , November 03, 2009
i bet if you can read your quraan (only a few pages) in your native language i will give you 1000 dollars. i bet you will get headache it is so repetetive (only cursing pages on pages non muslims) that you will get so bored that you will prefer reading in arabic not to understand the meaning....just try it once
and dont go for politicians...they often have to milk snakes to please them...this is dirty politics
written by 9-11 Infidel , November 05, 2009
Dr Sultan is indeeed "Cassandra". Though, I would have changed the title of her book to The "god" Who Hates"...since that is exactly what Allah The Shatain is.
