www.islam-watch.org

Shocking news has reached me,this is sure to be the scoop of the century.

On Dec 6th in a quiet suburban street,Mark Smith 14 years old,was knocked off his bike while delivering papers.
"I heard this speeding car,then I was hit",said the startled youth.
"As I got up I was able to see the face of the driver,he had a large beard and was brown looking,I think he had a turban too".

The local sheriff`s dept is very concerned and has called in the FBI,Homeland security,DEA,CIA,AT&F.
Sherrif Plonker said,"We believe this to be a new form of Islamic jihadist terrorist attack,I have called the federal authorities and will be speaking to the president soon".

What about it chumps,do you think I could get a job writing Islamophobic crap eh?

Your brain had been damaged by to much shit secreted by muhammad ibn abdullah, sal el din! You should expose yourself to reason instead of gorging yourself with superstitious defecation of a seventh century madman, mass murderer, child molester, thief, highway robber, extortionist, rapist, torturer masquerading as a prophet.

From saladin...What about it chumps,do you think I could get a job writing Islamophobic crap eh?

Maybe, but you will have to practice a lot...Your presentations are a little lame...
You should watch cable (if they have electricity where you live). Take notes on how the talking heads present stories about Muslims, Islam and terrorism. Especially tune in MSNBC and study the presentations of Kieth Olberman...You can get as good as he is in spewing Islamophobia in a few sessions...Once you have mastered the fine art of verbal procrastination, and lip reading, they may give you a job....It won't pay much at first, but the better you get at procrastination the pay will increase...That's how Olberman achieved fame and fortune, and you can do it to...

If you would notice, the MSM, especially in America does the best it can to hide any Muslim wrong doings...If you can't manage to land a job, you really should donate some money to them...Aside from Rasulullahhaha Obama, the MSM is your best friend. Their failing to provide coverage, as in the article, proves my point...Send MSNBC a check today...Olbermans kids need new shoes...

Even though we have not gotten enough facts to make informed decision but what is said in this article is very revealing.Islam may actually be the cause of this deadly attached. The truth is that the early the civilised world realised and deport or expel all these Islamist from amist them the better for them. Islam cannot be reformed it can only be eliminated like Nazism, fascism, communism.

Allah 'may' not have caused his submitter to murder...but he didn't prevent it either...Nothing happens unless Allah wills it...No matter what the surface reason for Muslim murder, Allah is always in the background...

Just one question, what is a 46 year old doing masquerading as a student. Considering the professor was a Jew, talking about the koran in front of a Saudi it was clearly not murder. Under these circumstances it can only be considered suicide.

Islamophobes have to realise"deportation" is not a viable option.
It has long been advocated by racists and fascists to send the "blacks" home,to no avail.
Muslims and other immigrant groups are 4-5 generations settled in the major "western" countries.even if they decided to deport,it would be impossible to carry out,as there has been so much race mixing in the last 60-70 years,I think it`s called MULTICULTURALISM,too bad eh?

Where would you deport white converts?

White converts would not be 'deported, they would be 'encouraged' to immigrate to the Islamic country of their choice. If no Islamic country would welcome these 'brothers' we can always re-open Devils Island...Demographic jihad is only effective if the invaded people are asleep...While Europe was sleeping you guys sneaked in.
That's Europe's problem and now they have to deal with it...But here in America, people are waking up...Islam has been 'found out', and has a low approval rating with Americans...Stealth jihad is working some, but that is also 'found out' and will be less effective as time goes on...You won't be able to hide behind 'religion' much longer...Soon you will leave of your own accord...No welfare, no jobs, no food...Yemen will start looking good...

Muslims are wishful thinking if they believe they will take over Europe without bloodshed. They should not think that the dhimmi politicians represent the mood the people.

Arguing with the likes of saladin is pointless since he will not, or cannot, argue logically. I suggest everyone just ignore him. He posts nonsense on every sight, hoping to distract people from the real problem.

Arguing with the likes of saladin is pointless...

Personally I never argue with Mahoundians nor do I debate them, for the basic reasons you state...But I do instruct them in the areas of 'family values'.
When I write, saladin takes notes...Soon I will have him convinced of the glories of apostasy. In the end, he will either apostate or quit beating his wife...maybe both...

When I write, saladin takes notes...Soon I will have him convinced of the glories of apostasy. In the end, he will either apostate or quit beating his wife...maybe both...

LOL yeah he can go forth with his boyfriend david eh?

The idea is to keep some regions, like the death valley, the gaza-strip, the lybian or yemeni desert as future homelands for our muslims bastards, white or not white... These regions should be carefully closed to stop any immigration from them. The muslims bastard named saladin here has already a place for him there.

death to pigdogpisslam

there is no dogpig but allah and muhamad is his pisspoopoo

The media did not cover this???? my ass its every where.

So what if he's a muslim? if he killed the professor he'll be convicted although by the way you ppl act he'll be convicted even if he didn't

Plus how many hate crimes happen in the states daily?????? or was this the only one?

p.s don't relate this to islam if you don't know about islam, its a little bit ignorant to talk about something you heard other people talk about, don't you think?

Read between the lines, as crass as your liittle post appear so is your brain, we hear about cheating husbands daily but when that act is made holy through polygamy it gets more attention, I bet you don't know why, well here's a little leverage, divinely sanctioned practices lend much power to an everlasting human right violation if left unchecked, on the other hand, the daily human non-sanctioned crimes are punished according to the law, educate yourself on the global suffering of women in the third world, from forced marriages to polygamy related abuses down to the shameless act of paedophilia by Muslims, yeah we know about Islam, this article voices out the need to stop appeasing the mad-men, alias 'Muslims the unprovoked murderers' somone has got to sound the alarm by showing relevant examples, I'm islamophobic if that's what it takes to halt massacres like the one from Major Hassan.

Feras,

It's not aboput this one fool who commited this horrible crime/act. It's islam and it's license to kill infidels. Even if someone thinks to kill someone due to whatever, they still might not doing it, but when they are encouraged by Allah, they stop thinking reasonable and do these crimes. In other words...islam/Allah is giving them a stick to beat the infidels.

BustedDivinity, I think over here we're discussing this specific case and how you people are handling it. Drifting away to other issues is just lame. Please learn how to discuss and debate with no insults.

Machmoed, Man trust me if he did this in an islamic country that would rule in an islamic manner he would be prosecuted and such crimes in islam are dealt with harshly by the death sentence. Now with this fact your telling me islam is supporting this????!!!!!!

I hope that this discussion goes into a constructive manner narrowing it to this specific case because going through other issues will make it an endless discussion

From above... Man trust me if he did this in an islamic country that would rule in an islamic manner he would be prosecuted and such crimes in islam are dealt with harshly by the death sentence.

Just what is the 'Islamic ' penalty for killing an apostate or filthy kufr, Q-98:6, 9:5, or the perpetrators of an 'honor' killing? When was the last time a Muslim ' filthy kufr or apostate killer' was given the death penalty in any Sharia country?

I also prefer to tweak these idiots without directly speaking to them. Keep up the good work, Swami!

In your initial post you said "p.s don't relate this to islam if you don't know about islam, its a little bit ignorant to talk about something you heard other people talk about, don't you think?"

I'm an ex-Muslim,saying I lack Islamic knowledge is a tangent away from arrogating my right, calling me ignorant is nowhere near a gentlemanly conversation, think before you act,respect is earned, no one is drifting, the crux of the issue is exposing Islam, a Muslim killed a man who wrote about Islam and an Arab student killed him, what other prime motive could we have other than a hate crime? Major Hassan killed his comrades, the media went hush and inverted on it, seen any pattern yet?

First of all the penalty is the death sentence. "who ever comes in peace will be dealt with in peace and who ever comes in harm will be dealt with in harm" this is Islam.

Perpetrators of an honor? can you be more specific so i can correctly answer this

Last question, the terrorists who were caught in Saudi were sent to the death penalty, those terrorists killed Muslims, Christians.... and sometimes they even killed Muslims only so do you think those people are actually following real Islam? Moreover, whether any Sharia country follows this or not is not a problem with islam its a problem with the country.

Please check this link
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617075700AAzcIUw

First, the penalty for all such crimes is the death sentence.

For the perpetrators of an honor, would you be more specific so i can answer you correctly

In Saudi all the terrorists who were caught were sentenced to death for their acts of violence against Muslims and Non-Muslims. Moreover, if a country does not follow Sharia its a problem with the country not a problem with Sharia.

Please visit
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617075700AAzcIUw

and excuse me but i will not reply any more since some people over here are filled with hatred and claim they are fighting hatred in the world.


Thank you

No offense buddy but if you were an ex-Muslim then you really did not know Islam.

Islam is being ruined by stupid acts of people who do not understand it. All what i aim for from this is not to defend this guy or any thing i'm just trying to show people that this is not related to Islam just like crimes carried out on Muslims are not related to Christianity or Judaism or.........


Nice talking to you all and BustedDivinity do accept my apology

F...Moreover, whether any Sharia country follows this or not is not a problem with islam its a problem with the country.

F...First of all the penalty is the death sentence. "who ever comes in peace will be dealt with in peace and who ever comes in harm will be dealt with in harm" this is Islam.

It's never Islams fault...It's always some variety of kufr...
'ALL' kufrs come to Islam with harm, that's why they are kufrs...Allah's greatest enemy is kufr (disbelief). They (kufrs) all deserve to be killed...They are warring with Allah...'That's' Islam...Convert, accept dhimmitude or die...'That's' Islam...Allah wrote a book called the Quran...In it he clearly identified his enemies, and clearly instructed his submitters on how he want's them to act toward his enemies...9:5...8:12...8:39...8:60...5:33 and over a hundred more...'That's' Islam'...Is Allah not clear enough?? Does he need to write another book? Does he need to send another Prophet? If you read hadith, you will see that the 'last Prophet', was somewhat lacking...Maybe Mahdi can square you people up, if he ever leaves his well...

The Saudi's execute terrorists who act against 'them'...Most of them, but not all, are sent to Saudi rehabilitation centers, and later released... "that's Islam...

How many Egyptian Muslims have been arrested, convicted and executed for killing or assaulting Christian Copts? 'That's' Islam...

I can give examples of unpunished, or lightly punished 'honor killings, and I know how they connect with Islam...But that is the subject for some other thread...

I never click on a link offered by a Muslim...Those bugs jump...

Listen,nobody is gonna"wake" up to Islam.Islam has been in the west for more than 1000years.At least 22 European countries haved been under sharia law for mor than 100 years(from France to Russia).

Islam is not alien to Europe,thats why we feel at home here.It feels like the moorish sultans never left.

This Feras is either an idiot or he's practising taqqiyya.
"Machmoed, Man trust me if he did this in an islamic country that would rule in an islamic manner he would be prosecuted and such crimes in islam are dealt with harshly by the death sentence. Now with this fact your telling me islam is supporting this????!!!!!!"
The murdered person was Jewish. The filthy prophet Muhammad himself told Muslims to kill Jews.
"The apostle said, 'Kill any Jew that falls into your power.'
The Life of Muhammad (translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sira) page 369. You idiot should read your own canonical books.
I bet that in one of the hellholes of Dar al Islam the murderer would not only be released; there is a big chance that he will receive a reward for obeying the commandment of Muhammad (piss be upon him).

Islam is not alien to Europe,thats why we feel at home here.It feels like the moorish sultans never left.

Islams presence in Europe is something the Europeans have to deal with if they so choose...You have never had a large presence in most of Europe until fairly recently, maybe Spain for a short time...The number of Muslims in the Netherlands in 1960, was 1600, 800,000 in 2004 , now about a million...That's a lot, but they have not been there 1000 years...It's just taken them 1000 years to get there...Islams presence in Europe is proof of Islamic hegemony...if the Europeans want to accept dhimmitude, it's up to them...
You guys can't even capture Rome...You will have a much harder time with America...Allah's plan for world domination will be slowed way down and stopped...Americans will never accept Sharia...You can maybe terrorize some of them, but you can't beat them...If you are relying on the Sunni Obama, he will punk out on you...

Some people have no understanding of European history. About every 100 years we have periods of massive blood letting. The last century was particularly bloody The Second World War in particular. The Napolionic war is another example. The 30 year war in Germany was a particular vicious religious civil war. It was estimated that over a third of the population died. The powers that be then wring there hands and say never again or put on the memorials too our glorious dead LEST WE FORGET, but we always do, and it usually doesn't take us very long. In 1940 Chamberlain stated in the House of Commons that we would never bomb civilian but three years later my Uncle was taking part in 1000 plane bombing raids doing just that, he was a very gentle person. Genocide and Ethnic cleansing is part of our D.N.A. It doesn't really matter if Muslims have been in Europe a 1,000 years it doesn't mean you will be there in the next 1,000 year. The Morisco had been in Spain for 700 years, and had converted too Christianity but they were all expelled ethnically cleansed in the modern parlance. Muslims would do well to take note of the Mood of the Europeans. Something they seem incapable of doing, mainly because they think that they are superior. It is stupid to underestimate your enemy even if he does seem to be acting the perfect dimihi, it is not the people who are dimihis it is the Governments mainly I suspect because they need Arab oil or there economies collapse but when the oil runs out. I would advise all muslims living in Europe to show a little more constraint. The is a strong undercurrent of contempt for muslims and all thing Islamic growing in Europe at this moment. The Swiss vote against minarets in my mind was not a vote against the minarets but a vote against the high handed attitude of that Muslim gentleman from Libya who has been trying to bully the Swiss. The Swiss are a mixed bunch and like to be left alone to sort out there own problems and the don't like anyone interfering. They in fact fought a civil war in 1847 to reduce the influence of the Catholic church in there internal affairs. They closed monasteries and ban the Jesuits. If the muslims think that they can bully the Swiss and that the human rights industry or the U.N. will save them they had better think again. The Swiss army can be mobilised in 48 hours and consists of 300,000 citizens who keep there uniforms guns and munition at home. If you don't think that they are formidable think again. The Kaiser in the first world war and Hitler in the second were not stupid enough to invade them . Just a little advice too the muslim troll from a White British Kuffer.

I like your comments.We need people like you in the uk.It is good to reminds the muslims in the Europe do not make the people angery in Europe.Live peacefully with other people especialy with indigenous population.

The murdered professor Richard T. Antoun was not Jewish - he was a Protestant Christian (a member of Unitarian Universalist Church in Binghamton New York). The professor's wife was of the reformed Jewish faith but I hardly think this was in the mind of the murderer. The professor had a Christian Arab grand-father with his roots in Lebanon and a Catholic grand-mother from Brazil. His parents were married in a civil ceramony in Brazil and then in a Methodist Church in the USA.

The muderer Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani was a Saudi national. His room mates described his behaviour which was evidently psychotic and with paranoid delusions. Waving a knife he had asked a room mate if he was afraid of dying, shouted phone conversations with his room door open, and claimed to be persecuted. He didn't mention the professor in his ranting. Other muslim students on campus avoided him. He had asked one fellow muslim student to tell three other muslim students to stop following him, answered one student's greeting of peace with an obscene insult, and disparaged a local mosque as "garbage in Johnson City". It all sounds a bit chaotic for his behaviour to be taqqiya.

He's been charged with second degree muder. I think this murderer was a failed student whose doctoral dissertation was about to be rejected and he could not cope with his failure.

Not every muslim with murderous intent is on a jihadi mission - sometimes it is just murder.

Duh-Swami, and Mulhid and Yorkshire miner, the effect of your words was very positive on me, it gave me more hope and confidence. That somehow, in the 21st century, democracy and progress will prevail. That if things get too threathening, Democrats will unite, rally and fight if Muslims push further, keep treating minorities like they do now in Islamic countries. All the better if they don't of course, and convert or reform (but this seems impossible).

Feras for the umptiest time tries to exonerate Islam from bad deeds done by it's followers. Now Islam does have both violent AND peaceful texts. And the question is: Does it have influence or not? If it does not influence it's followers when they behave bad, why should we believe it influences it's followers when they behave good? That last is what Muslims like to believe. But Islam does not prevent bad deeds in its followers, not significantly more anyway than what any possible other religion or lack thereof prevents it's followers to do. Especially when Muslims are in power. Islam has had ample time and power but it failed.

If it does not influence both bad and good behavior, or does not prevent bad behavior in a significant way, then it is not relevant and it is followed for no good reason, in our opinion. Or do Muslims think, that regardless of it's apparent lack of (beneficial) influence, that because it's Allahs word and the truth, that is enough? Because Allah knows best? But the idea that the Quran is the true word of Allah is also heavily discredited by now.

Now with this fact your telling me islam is supporting this????!!!!!!


I'm not telling islam does but i'm telling you that koran, hadieth, prophet (sirat) do tell so. The islam you're talking about (islam of today) wasn't even there in the time of Muhammad. the fact was and is that the prophet as it is written did propagate hatred against infidels and ordered to kill some individuals especially when they do not believe him and then i ask myself: if it was from God/Allah he never will condamn someone because he has God besides him and then he would know that Allah is going to deal with them...but this never happened...always the sword...so for me Allah was/is his alter-ego . The biggest bullshit about Allah is ofcourse about the injustice done to slaves and Allah didnot change it because we have no abrogated verses about slaves...so to Allah slaves will be always inferior....how can someone believe so.

@ Tom Billesley: If I am wrong concerning the facts in this case than I am wrong and by this I apologize. This case is than an exception to the Islamic rule. I was very bad tempered when I post the reaction. The reason is these: I have just finished reading Dr. Andrew Bostom's book "The Legacy of Jihad", a tome that is informative to the extreme. After that I was not in the least inclined to suffer Islamic fools like Feras or Salad Din gladly.
Respectfully yours,
Mulhid.

From post above...Not every muslim with murderous intent is on a jihadi mission - sometimes it is just murder.

All Muslims are on jihad missions...It's obligatory...

It depends on who is killed...If he kills another Muslim, that is one thing, when he kills a filthy kufr, automatically at war with Allah, that is quite another.
If he kills a Muslim, that is not an apostate, or an adulterer, he may be executed by a Islamic court...If he kills an apostate or filthy kufr, or a Christian who mishandled a Quran (maybe), or an 'honor killing'.. he will most likely get a slap on the wrist.
If he crashes a plane and kills lots of kufrs (Lockerbie), he is given a hero's welcome (Libya)...Allah may not 'cause' all 'murder' in Islam, but he does not prevent them either...Allah's book and the examples of Mohammad encourage such behavior...Mohammad himself contracted murder for his adversaries, which did not involve 'fighting in Allah's cause(s)'...Those incidents were 'personal'...
Just plain murder...But because these actions were perpetrated by the 'Perfect man and role model', his behavior is mimicked by modern Muslims...

Of course you are right Duh Swami. Even if this murder was not intended as a Jihad attack; because the perpetrator is a Muslim he will undoubtedly receive his reward when he goes to Janna in the form of 72 houris and many gelmans as perfect as pearls. How gullible can you be to swallow all this nonsense. On the other hand, even a well-educated person like Muhammad Atta was convinced of the truth of this fairy tales.

People like Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani who have failed in their lives and who are in a narcissistic rage, will be ideal recruits for a terrorist attack. I'm certain this has happened a lot, terrorists being recruited from the ranks of losers and mentally disordered, and it is probably happening right now in many mosques and prisons. I don't think that happened on this occasion, but perhaps more will come of this story. In the meantime, it is best to make sure your feet are firmly planted before throwing a punch - it then does more damage. The weakness of the celebrators of Islam is that their feet are in the shifting sands of Arabia. Perhaps the reason that muslims don't want anyone to make a statue of mohammed is because they've heard of Ozymandias.

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bishe Shelley

Aladdin said: Listen,nobody is gonna"wake" up to Islam.Islam


Yeah, have you met our friend Switzerland? Europe already hates Islam.

They already woken up i suppose. Also in the Netherlands they are protesting against new mosques. I now some architectures of these mosques and they say that it is a time of change...cause nowaday's it's very hard to get a permit to built a mosque so the designs stay on the designtable/computer when used CAD systems or whatever.....it's not only Switserland....i'm sure other European countries will follow. In the nineties Mosques in some regions in the Netherlands performed athaan (call for prayer loudly)....nowadays they are not allowed to do this! You have to be blind or in coma/deep sleep, for not seeying Europeans are awakening.

Great point, very intresting.

So the dirty little money laundering capital of the earth has banned minerets,big deal.
If that is the only victory of Islamophobia in Europe,I`ll gladly settle for that.I`ts not like mosques have been banned,just minerets.The money saved can be spent on spreading the truth of Islam and gaining more converts.

Face it people,your shitty hate propaganda aint working.Too bad eh?

Face it people,your shitty hate propaganda aint working.Too bad eh?

Hahahahhah sez a boy who speads hate from his safe life in a FREE conutry. Go back home sand fly!

Dear Salad bin,
It is impossible too have truth in religion because you cannot scientifically prove that god exists or is needed for the creation of the universe all you can say is that religion is a valid hypothesis. By the act of faith or believe, a bit like a magician waving a magic wand you change a valid hypothesis into a truth. it is obviously not true when you look at religions that are well past there sell by date such as the religion of the Vikings or the Greeks. People do not believe them any more so they are looked on as somewhat silly. What you should do is take the creations myths of the of the various religions for that is what there theology is based on, and compare them with the scientific version of creation which is true. There have been several versions over the years the steady state theory forcefully defended by a compatriot of my country Fred Hoyle basically said that the Universe has existed for ever and the Big Bang theory which states that the universe began about 13.5 billion years ago from a point of of infinite density temperature and timelessness. The discovery of the back ground radiation several decades ago was the final clincher that won the debate. The Big Bang Hypothesis is true. From the endeavour of thousands, mainly Western Scientist over the years from many different different disciplines each bringing a piece of the jigsaw puzzle we now have a very good scientific, true conception of creation. It doesn't even take God out of the equation if you don't want too it just pushes him back to before the big bang. It doesn't even dethrone him it just limits his radius of action. If you believe in this God which I don't by the way then you have too logically believe that he is all knowing and all powerful to have set the cosmological constants and pushed the button to get the big bang started. Now it seems to me that if he is all powerful it was rather remiss of him to tell Mohamed a lie that when the sun goes down it disappears into a puddle. why didn't he tell him that what Mohamed was seeing was the result of the earth spinning on its axis as it circles the sun. Now being the logical Kuffer I am, I say too myself that if Big G lied too Big Mo once then surely he lied too him about the the rest, and that the Koran is a load of crap that Mohamed who showed signs of mental instability made up too suit his own nefarious ends. Now I suggest you take your hand off your dick stop banging you head on the floor while farting in your Neighbours and do something useful like reading a book eat a bacon sandwich digging in the Garden or better still draw cartoons which I do being a professional animator. you will find it much more satisfying

deep regards

Face it Aladdin, your culture, your "faith" and your people have failed to create anything of value for the last 500 years. Now the west is occupying your lands (thanks for all that oil by way! Ho ho ho!!!) and you're powerless to do anything about it but blather on about "the truth." Settle down Aladdin, it's going to be ok. Just keep driving that taxi and making kebabs, you guys will totally rule europe any day now! :)

Muslims are not that bright....they can read in the koran that Allah think the trinity dogma is God, jesus and his mother....we know this is not true...! We also know that surat meryem is a little bit confusing because maria and meryem seem to be the same in koran....muslim scholars are embarresed to talk about this. There are many, many cases of lies or fallacies that noone after reading and understanding the koran can say...yes,this is God/Allah talking...! But ofcourse God knows best, only he doesn't want us to know either, so the all powerfull God finds it amuzing when people slaughter eachother in his cause/name. I'm sorry for those who can't open their eyes.

@yorkshire miner,

It is impossible too have truth in religion because you cannot scientifically prove that god exists or is needed for the creation of the universe all you can say is that religion is a valid hypothesis.

Actually it's already been proven by Stephan Hawking that God is not necessary for the universe to be as we know it. The laws within our universe are enough to the universe to become what it is. We don't know who created these laws, it might be god. After the big bang/big bounce the universe was already set. After this no God is needed...that's the conclusion of sir Hawking.

You started off really well,then it was down hill all the way to Islamophobia.Shame really,as I expected more from a miner/former miner.

You weren`t a scab by any chance?

Dear Machmoed,

I couldn't agree with you more, I cannot remember when I have not been an atheist, I seem to have been born with a Teflon brain, all the religious cant and crap just seems to slide off. Sir Stephan Hawking is excellent, but may I suggest a Book called CREATION REVISITED. by Peter Atkins a professor of chemistry from Oxford. He is one of the more vocal atheists in Britain along with Richard Dawkins. In my estimation he writes much better. I am certain you will enjoy it.

Deep Regards

Dear Salad Bin,

By the way I wasn't a scab In fact I had been a Branch President for many years, knew Arthur Scargill quiet well when he was a delegate from Wolley pit. There are still quiet a few miners in Yorkshire by the way there are still a few pits open. Decent people working hard to put food on the table and pay all those extra taxes to keep all those immigrants in the way to which they have been unaccustomed to, in there own, countries. May I take the time now too thank you for being true too form by calling me a Islamophobe I would have been disappointed if you had not used this form of abuse, first. A phobia by the way is an irrational fear, having studied Islam I can assure you my fears are quiet rational. There are few more the unthinking can use when they don't get the better of the argument. Try Xenophobe next time, a hatred of foreigners. I don't think that fits the bill, travelled round India for two years on a motor cycle, loved it, loved the people. You could of cause use the good old fashioned stand by Racist. mind you if I told you why I am not a racist you wouldn't believe me so lets just leave at that. Now why don't you just stop calling people names and rationally explain too the people here why Islam is a religion of peace and we can rationally answer and tell you why you are talking a lot of F**king Crap. Sorry about that just the blunt Yorkshire man in me.

Deep Regards.

To get back to the subject, people...

Previous posting that Professor Antoun was a member of Unitarian Universalist Church in Binghamton New York was not correct. With a bit more research from the preface of one of his books reproduced at
http://openanthropology.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/antounpreface.pdf the new information is:

His parents were married in a Methodist Church in the US having previously been married in a civil cermony in Brazil. He went to a Methodist Sunday School as a child, but only for secular activities such as basketball and received no religious teaching. When he bagan teaching at University he became interested in religions He attended Society of Friends (Quaker) meetings, Lutheran church services and Unitarian church services, particularly the latter after his parents had become members of the local Unitarian Church and his brother became a minister in another Unitarian Church. He does not however state that he became a member of a Unitarian Church. He said in the preface that "more recently I have been introduced to Judaism, particularly the Reformed tradition, through my wife". However he does not say that he had formally converted to Judaism nor that he had adopted any or all of the beliefs and practices of Judaism.

This is true, media should not be silence on this brabaric act. They should play their role and bring the culprit into light and pursue for the reason of murder. if Today Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani killing his/her professor, tomorrow another muslim will stab his/her another professor, just for a minor reason, forexample, the professor agreed on some point with shias, wahabis, sunnies, etc.