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Fornication Incidents and Muhammad's Great Wisdom

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Muhammad, Muslims claim, was the wisest men ever lived. I have shown in some of my previous writings that this is in fact far from the truth. In this article, I present to the reader two hadiths that have a similar story. We will analyze those hadiths from a purely moral perspective. We want to discover Muhammad’s “wisdom” in those hadiths.

Here is the first hadith:

Dawud - Book 38, Number 4451:

Narrated Sahl ibn Sa'd:

A man came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and made acknowledgment before him that he had committed fornication with a woman whom he named. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) sent someone to the woman and he asked her about it. She denied that she had committed fornication. So he gave him the prescribed punishment of Lashes and left her.

In the above story, a man comes to Muhammad and tells him that he fornicated with a woman. Muhammad does the right thing by going to the woman to ask her if this is in fact the case. She denies it. So, Muhammad punishes the man by himself for fornication, at least that’s how I read the punishment for in the above hadith. Here, it seems clear that Muhammad did two wrongs. First, he punishes a man for fornication that did not occur (according to the story). If anything, the man should be punished for lying only. Second, what did Muhammad expect the woman to say? If she admits to the relation, she will be punished too. She denied it and so Muhammad cannot punish her. Why, then, did Muhammad believe her, and not the man who came to him?

It is evident that Muhammad had no way of knowing who was telling the truth. In a court of law, such a case will be dismissed for lack of evidence. But apparently, that was not the case with the wisest man ever lived!!

Let us now look at a very similar story, but this time Muhammad decides to take a different action. Here is the hadith:

Dawud - Book 38, Number 4452:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

A man of Bakr ibn Layth came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and made confession four times that he had committed fornication with a woman, so he had a hundred lashes administered to him. The man had not been married. He then asked him to produce proof against the woman, and she said: I swear by Allah, Apostle of Allah, that he has lied. Then he was given the punishment of eighty lashes of falsehood.

Here again, a man comes to Muhammad and tells him that he had committed fornication. So, Muhammad administers the punishment right away. What more do you want? The man admitted guilt. That is well. But the problem comes after that. Muhammad asks the man to produce proof against the woman. Shouldn’t Muhammad have done that before punishing the man? The fact that he punished the man has an implied acceptance by Muhammad that the man and the woman are both guilty. Why else would he punish the man? So, asking for a proof against the woman is an unrealistic one. The story does not end here. The woman denies it, and it seemed that Muhammad accepted her word. Well, if this is the case, why did he punish the man? And shouldn’t Muhammad have asked the woman about it before prescribing any punishment against the poor young man? It does not end here either. Muhammad gives a second punishment to the man for lying! I do not know how Muhammad knew that the man lied. He said he did commit fornication. The woman denied it. In such a case, the case should be dismissed in court. But again, Muhammad, being such a good feminist (I am just joking here), accepts the woman’s word for it, and gives the man a double dose of punishments.

The above hadiths clearly show that Muhammad was not consistent or wise in judging or analyzing situations. He did not have the analytical ability needed to be just and fair when dealing with people’s problems and faults.

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written by vbv , December 08, 2009
Fornication,rape,pedophilia...etc...Islam .theirfake prophet and muslims are so obsessed with sex ,their thinking just stops at that. Women are just sex-toysformuslimmen,they should obligeandgratify the muslim men's lust atthe snap of their fingers,they can be raped at will,....and they willl continue their perversions in their paradise in the "hereafter" which is Allah's brothel... That sums up the cult of islam. And they call this a religion,a way of life ordained by their unholy shit called Muhamad and their imaginery deity called Allah! Yech!
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nice one
written by lashker ei toiba , December 08, 2009



nice one.pisslam shud be destroyed before it nukes world.
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written by machmoed elchalid , December 09, 2009
Like the most of hadieth...it never happened! The arabs wanted to use some of these hadieth in court and were set for this cause. In those times these stories seemed to be wise and moral. But in these days we (non-muslims) know it's the biggest BULL...!
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More Wisdom
written by lw1 , December 09, 2009
Prophet on Mumbai massacre -- All the Jihadis deserve Jannat. I am puzzled why they haven't arrived yet.
Prophet on Serbia/Bosnia-- All the Infidels will go to Jahanam. Jihadis keep on doing your duty because All Powerful Allah cannot do his own work.
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good one
written by karan , December 09, 2009
The more i know the more i feel sad for muslims ..........i know ignorance is bless ..but this is now getting ridiculous .............look at this man ...seriously ........this man is .....probably the worst blot on humanity .......he has almost done every crime possible in the name of God .......i just hope muslims understant what has ISLAM done to them,their countries,culture and the carnage ISLAM brought to their forefathers ............
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to karan
written by straight up , December 09, 2009
I know how you feel. You wish you could somehow reach these muslims. I too feel sad that this is a way of life for them. They are missing out big time.
Most of the older muslim women I see, the light has gone out in their eyes. This is a terrible life for them.
There is nothing but emptyness in the worship of sex and the penis.
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Yo! what happend to peace!
written by Abdul Munim , December 10, 2009
I dont have much to say, Besides "GET A LIFE MAN".

You are no different than ignorant and barbarian "FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIMS".

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written by Machmoed elchalid , December 11, 2009
ignorant and barbarian "Fundamentalist muslims".

How can religion of peace aka islam bring such bad fruits as fundamentalist muslims. Does their religion not preach and teach peace? I suppose the fundamentalist muslim did not get the real message or maybe they are the real true muslims as it was taught by the founder.
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Mohammad's Great wisdom, or just his way of being a successful Warlord
written by wondering , December 14, 2009
The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
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Islam is a great
written by mahmoud mahmed ahmed , December 14, 2009
Islam is a great . You do not know anything about Islam . Islam is a religion of justice . Islam is a religion of reason . Islam respects women .
Islam respects other religions
Please Read about Islam before the curse talk

http://www.islamonline.net/English/index.shtml


This site talks about true Islam


Peace be upon you
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Is Islam great?
written by Kafirwalah , December 15, 2009
In which way Islam is great? Islam is the only religion in the world in whose scriptures you will see derogatory remarks about other religions. If Allah is God, how can he run down other religionists who are his own creations? He is calling jews 'swines'. How can God generalise that all Jews are pigs. Apart from Jews, Mohammed knew only christians and sabians. Allah's decree is that anyone of his chosen people ie. muslims befriends jews, christians or sabians, Allah, it seems, will consider that person as one of these religionists and these people are all enemies of Allah and his resool. Thank god, Mohammed never came to know about Hindus, Budhists or Jains. Otherwise, there would have been strictures about these religionists also. However, under the name of idol- worshippers and people who beleive in more than one god, it can be safely presumed that Allah means these people only. They are the worst offenders. Any way, the outbursts of Allah against all these religionists itself shows that Quran is not the words of real God. It is the words of a god made by Mohammed, the psychopath and all those people who consider this psychopath as the greatest man who lived in this world are simply mentally retarded.
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Open your eyes
written by New Muslim , January 01, 2010
Brothers and sisters, there's much to say about islam, just by joining this comment and writing here will not make Islam a wrong religion, you have to find the god yourself, so take out some time and read Quran by meaning, you will come to know what is right and what's wrong, each and everyone on this planet knows about Islam and anyone who rejects this will be certainly thrown to HELLFIRE.

So repent before its too late!! Find out the truth yourself, read quran and its promises and signs which are coming true years by years....the whole 9/11 is described in Quran, what do you think? Was is written recently? Its there since 1400 years ago......so open your eyes and grab the truth.

Allaho Akbar.

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