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The Pathological Mind of Educated Moderate Muslims

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Muslims' sickening habit of taking pleasure at every sufferings of the kafirs...


Here is latest chain message being circulated amongst Muslims:

“Japan was the first country to ban hijaab, the first country to stop teaching of Quran and the first country to tear the pages of the Quran. They printed Allah’s and His Messenger Muhammad’s names on their shoes. They claim that they are the “largest” nuclear power in the world, the “2nd largest” military power and the “best” Architects. They felt proud of their Science, o f their inventions and didn’t surrender their faith towards Allah, who bestowed all these blessings on them. In spite of their supremacy in all capacities, they can’t withstand the terror of Allah, which He had given back to them as their ‘reward’.

So, O Muslims! Raise your voice by saying ‘ALLAH HU AKBAR’ and feel proud to be a Muslim.’ – Share this message among the fellow Muslims of the world.”

This is the latest of sacred duties being circulated among the educated “Moderate Muslims”, while Japanese are passing through a very critical moment of their history and need humanistic approach towards them. Any human being who watches these video clips of devastating earthquakes on TV and Internet will definitely feel hurt. On the other hand the feelings are quite opposite in the mysterious world of Muslims. This tragic episode of Japan is a funny joke for them, brought upon the Japanese by the ‘most gracious and merciful Allah’.

Some of our readers among the “moderate” Muslims may claim that this may be the work of few mischievous ignorant Muslims. It isn’t, because this message is being actively circulated via cell-phones (and internet) among ‘educated’ moderate Muslims, and they feel it dutiful to pass on this message to their fellow Muslims over and over.

This is not the first time that this kind of mischief has occurred. Similar joyous messages are circulated among Muslims, whenever such calamities occur, like the devastation caused by ‘Katrina’ cyclone in USA, floods in Europe and Australia, Earthquakes in Haiti, Chile and Mexico etc. They haven’t spared their own Islamic countries like Pakistan, Iran and Indonesia, while they were hit by Tsunami and earthquakes, but on a different reasoning – that is, they were punished by Allah for not practicing Islam properly. In fact, the Muslims are eagerly waiting to witness such miseries to occur and to praise Allah for His ‘Gifts’ to the infidels and to the misguided Muslims. Though I am an atheist and pretend to be a Muslim (Not like to be killed as an apostate and wish to witness the eradication of Islam before dying) received these kinds of inhuman messages several time.

This kind of mischievous idea gets hatched in almost all the mosques by their Imams’, during the Friday sermons. Let us analyze first the back ground of these illiterate Imams, who fool hundreds of their audience. Usually in non-Arab Asian countries, the Imams come from the economically poor families and are, therefore, not well-educated because of their poverty. They were forced to be sent to Arabic Madrasas were they get free, but only the Islamic ‘Knowledge’ about deceiving, cutting and killing. After the completion of their ‘courses’, they get their job with a very poor salary, because a large number of such “Islamic scholars” graduate every year from Madrasas in Asian countries with few jobs available and the many of them can’t even get a job at the lowest salary. The so-called ‘Islamic scholars’ prefer to work in Muhammad’s sacred land (i.e. Saudi Arabia) and the “sacred country” offers them jobs of “unskilled” labourers. Surely the Arab knows about the meaning of ‘Islamic Scholars’ and the extent of their skill. I met such expatriates “learned” Aalims and Haafids (Islamic Scholars) working as unskilled labourers, cleaning toilets in Saudi Arabia.

These Imams (Toilet cleaners) are given high respect by fellow Muslims in their non-Arab home countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia etc. They are paid from the contribution of Muslims of that locality. These Imams, employed on meagre salaries, show their gratitude to Allah by preaching Islam’s barbaric and superstitious ideas in prayer sermons, which he gained from Madrasas and holy Islamic texts. He explains to his audience, how Allah punishes the countries governed by the infidels and how Allah take revenge on those Muslim countries, which are not practicing the Hijaab, follow the Western culture, and not follow the Sunna and Sharia. By this way, the Imam pretends to show how the righteous Muslims are being protected by Allah.

And no intellectual, educated, moderate and liberal Muslim among the ‘HERD’ of Muslims listening to those sermons ever raises any intellectual question, objecting to his inhuman lecture. Not even once it happened. Because this is also Muhammad’s deceptive order to pious Muslims that they must not to talk or raise questions during sermons. They all listen to the illiterate Imams with highest devotion and digest his inhumane, unscientific and superstitious ideas like a herd of sheep. Even after coming out of the mosque upon hearing such sermons, nobody ever discusses his ugly ideas. If I ever try to raise doubts regarding it to the educated, liberal, moderate Muslims, they just avoid discussing it in detail in the fear that they may lose their Imaan (faith). And they don’t feel any embarrassment or shame by circulating these kinds of mischievous messages. Their intellect doesn’t allow them to raise any question on hearing the rubbish hadiths like, “One wing of a fly has a disease, and the other the cure. So dip it well in your drinks.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari 4:537)

The real culprits of Islam are the so-called silent majority of educated moderate Muslims, who has no guts to question their own paid servants, namely the Imams.

I read somewhere in a writing of Ali Sina: “Socrates said, ‘Ignorance is the mother of all sins.’”

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Interesting article...
written by duh_swami , November 19, 2011
They printed Allah’s and His Messenger Muhammad’s names on their shoes.

Now there's an idea...Wish I would have thought of it...but it's not too late, I can thing of lots of juicy places to walk in...Those Japanese kuffar are really clever...

















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Mirza
written by aaki , November 19, 2011
"Though I am an atheist and pretend to be a Muslim (Not like to be killed as an apostate and wish to witness the eradication of Islam before dying) received these kinds of inhuman messages several times"

hypocrite of the highest order! Your words and actions are of hypocrisy! you will surely die in humiliation because islam is here until the end of time!

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_645824.html

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Mirza 2
written by aaki , November 19, 2011
Read and weep fecal face!

http://www.muslimaid.org/index.php/media-centre/582-devastating-tsunami-hits-japan

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/451487-world-muslims-mobilize-to-help-japan.html

Muslim organisations around the world helping the people of japan!
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To Mirza Ghalib, Aki
written by Archpagan , November 20, 2011
Perhaps Muslim society is on a steady course of reverse evolution. It's not new in the animal kingdom. Whales are mammals. Once they lived on land. But they adapted themselves to live as fish in the sea.

Muslims will gradually adapt themselves to live in burrow like the reptiles. Their latest Caliph Osama bin Laden set that example in 'Tora Bora’, Afghanistan. They will stealthily strike at humans and their settlements and feast on their miseries- Something parallel to the 'RAKSHASAS' of the Hindu Mythology. Perhaps, our Reed Wilson, who is a herpetologist, is in a better position to explain that.

Aki, 'in the end of time', Islam will end up in the zoo.

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The muslim response!
written by Kafirwala , November 20, 2011

To aaki: I don’t understand why you are getting so worked up over the facts narrated by Mirza Ghalib. When 9/11 happened, what was the mood of muslims? The Palestinian muslims were celebrating it by chanting ‘Allau Akbar’ en masse and bursting crackers. In some other countries also (in India, for example), muslims staged mass demonstations shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and hurling abuses and curses at America and George Bush. It is on record. As Mirza Ghalib said, whenever some natural calamity occurred, the vast majority of muslims, irrespective of whether educated or uneducated, rejoiced in the devastation suffered by the non- muslims. Just because some tiny organization in the minuscule muslim community of Singapore, USA or UK took some initiative to raise a fund to aid the affected does not validate your claim that muslim organizations around the world were helping the people of Japan. At best, the tiny organizations who collected money were demonstrating to the majority of non- muslims around them that they are also sympathetic towards the victims of the calamity. What about the vast majority of the 1.5 billion strong muslims or the 57 so- called Islamic countries in helping the devastated people? What is their contribution or what they did? Saudi Arabia is spending billions and billions of US$ every year to build palatial mosques in America, Europe and the third world countries, but what is their record in helping the calamity stricken people or for that matter, the poor and needy even in muslim countries? In African muslim countries, poverty is rampant and people die of hunger in thousands. What do these oil- rich muslim countries do for them? The shaitan America is doing more than all these bloody oil- rich muslim countries put together. It is an irrefutable fact that the mainstream muslims are rejoicing when a tragedy strikes the non- muslims and these barbarians consider it as an act of demon Allah to punish the infidels.
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iiki fumes
written by duh_swami , November 20, 2011
Poor iiki, upset again...Calling names, fuming...

'you will surely die in humiliation because islam is here until the end of time'!

Both statements hostile and hateful...Exactly when is the end of time? Islam will persevere until it is stopped, and that will be way before the end of time...Maybe next week, or the week after...
Islam as a force depends either directly or indirectly on kufr...Kufr to Islam is what sin is to Christianity...Islam needs kufr to war against, it has to have it...Without kufr, Islam would have no reason or incentive to expand by aggression...
Islam like some governments, must have an enemy, with Islam it is kufr...
So the question naturally comes up as to why are Muslim organizations helping kuffar in kufr lands, like Japan, when Allah clearly hates them (see Quran 98:6) for their kufr? Muslim organizations don't seem to be jumping up with aid for other kufr countries who have big problems, so why Japan? How much money did they donate to help the hurricane victims of Joplin Missouri in the US?
It would seem to me that this donating to Japan (how much was that again?) is just a con game, a little show for the folks, to make Islam look good when it is really ugly...Allah would probably forgive that because it is a con in his favor, but he might not understand generous outreach and donation to kufr for humanitarian reasons...It is up to Allah to decide who is humanitarian and who is not...and he already decided that...
If hardcore kuffar deserve nothing better than death, assisting them in a humanitarian way is warring with Allah...
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Aki
written by vbv , November 21, 2011
Muslims revel at others' suffering because they are a failed society. Their barbaric cult has made them bestial in nature,nonachievers,frustrated and destructive that they cannot stomach all the progress and prosperities around in nonmuslim societies. The japanese are not daft to fall for all those islamic bullshits about 'quayamat','jannat',and 'jahnum' etc. They know that the arabian barbarian diety is just a figment of imagination of the desert rats bedouins who were never civilised and never had anything worthwhile to give to the world. Even their socalled holybook is a plagiarisation and distortion of the Bible with Muhamad and Allah thrown in.In all history they were known for looting,plundering,massacring and raping . Their quran is a manual that prescribes these hideous acts in the name of religion and holiness. So the likes of Aki are only feigning anger and outrage while they know very well that these facts are staring at them. They have noting to show except jealsy and envious outpourings. Islamic societies are sick and diseased societies with the likes of Afghanistan,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Iran,Iraq,Nigeria,Libya
,Syria,Indonesia,Somalia,Sudan,,,etc you name them you find them just as backward,in deep hole of ignorance and misery . So ,aki, your feigning is blatantly clear.
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Appeaser!
written by aaki , November 21, 2011
Don't worry! Joplin got it's fair share of donations too!

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/muslim_aid_not_welcomed_by_some

even though you bigots didn't like it!
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Islam is weak
written by Walter Sieruk , November 21, 2011
Near the end of the artlcle it informs the readers that Muslims are not to ask or "raise questions during sermons...Even after coming out of the mosques upon hearing such sermons, nobody ever discusses his ugly ideas." This is because Islam cannot tolerate scrutiny. The reason for this is because the ideas, beliefs as wellas the foundations of islam are so weak that they can't stand up to criticism.
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Walter
written by aaki , November 21, 2011
Yeah that's right walter! 14+ centuries and 1.5 billion people!
That's weak alright.
Now get back to you tambourine
" kumbaya my lord kumbaya...."
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iiki tosses bull stuff
written by duh_swami , November 21, 2011
Don't worry! Joplin got it's fair share of donations too!

Oh? How much? Exactly how much is Joplin's fair share...share of what? What other donations have been sent by any Muslim country to aid in other American natural disasters?
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iiki slips
written by duh_swami , November 21, 2011
" kumbaya my lord kumbaya...."

You're such an idiot...
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Icki sucks flies becomes rabid
written by Mozlem , November 21, 2011
Icki why dont you go to cairo to support your brothers into the second round of Arab Spring.
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Speaking of rabid
written by Yibel , November 21, 2011
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as HYDROPHOBIA IN A DOG, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, lovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM - IN 1899!
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written by FaithNoMore , November 22, 2011
"Though I am an atheist and pretend to be a Muslim (Not like to be killed as an apostate and wish to witness the eradication of Islam before dying) received these kinds of inhuman messages several times"

Me too Mirza, we're in the same boat. I believe there are many more out there. This is not about hypocrite but survival. We're no hero.. just trying to live this world peacefully.
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Faithnomore
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
Living you say? Lying to friends, family, other loved ones. Smiling at these people but cursing them deep down. Breaking bread with them but hating the way they live.
Not being mentally capable to share in their joy or pain!

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written by Archpagan , November 22, 2011
But, who is responsible Aki, for this sorry state of affairs?
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Aki
written by Dwito , November 22, 2011
Living you say? Lying to friends, family, other loved ones. Smiling at these people but cursing them deep down. Breaking bread with them but hating the way they live.
Not being mentally capable to share in their joy or pain!

Islam is getting the return it born, nursed and lived in, do you see lie-ki?
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Dwito
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
In English please! What are you on about now?
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Islam is weak
written by non believer , November 22, 2011
Well said Walter Sieruk. The ramblings of Aaki without any effort at analyzing Islam, using his brains to whether what is said in the book is justifiable or not, and simply believing his brain washers, prove that Muslims are weak mentally and strong physically. That is why all they can use is their muscles and what is between their legs to increase their number to 1.5 billion and not the quality of their brains.
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written by Dwito , November 22, 2011
and not the quality of their brains.

Yes, 100%. that's why he asks me in (his) English - What are you on about now?
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written by duh_swami , November 22, 2011
iiki believes a lot of things he is totally incapable of intelligently explaining...
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Duuh
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
Like shiney heaty lightey healing energy!
It's the answer to all things swami!
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don't get it
written by Vinny , November 22, 2011
i'm an american of european decent. i have tried to read the koran, but it is to repetitive and rambling nonsense. it isn't even in chronilogical order ( why is that, to hide the true meaning?). it appears to me that muslems worship Mo more than god. he never prophisied any thing, what makes him a prophet? so many verses are abrogated, this god just can't make up his mind apparently. which tells me he is not a god at all. any insight would be appreciated.
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Vinny
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
Seriously fella, if you want to know islam then ask the Muslims. There are plenty of genuine sources out there.
Asking here is a waste of time. You will only find islamophobes and haters foaming at the mouth!
Here is a good start!

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php
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aaki
written by Vinny , November 22, 2011
thanks for that, but you missed my point. i don't want to know islam. just want to know the enemy i.e. thomas jefferson. i think i got what i need to know from my own research. i'm not an overly religous person, but i believe in doin unto others...do not kill ( especially for religous differences) which is all islam does. and hers one for you

http://www.1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.php?Page=001_001_001_001
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Vinny
written by duh_swami , November 22, 2011
iiki will lead you astray...His recommended sites will not tell you the evils of Islam, some of which are very obvious...They will not tell you of the details of sharia law, Allah's laws...
They will not tell you hat apostasy can mean death, or that women can be stoned to death for adultery, have few rights and can be beaten according to Quran, and both men and women can get publicly lashed for having illegal sex...They will not tell you that gays deserve death, They will not tell you that the punishment for warring with Allah, Which means resisting him, or spreading mischief in the land, which means speaking or writing against Islam/Allah...is amputations of arms and legs on opposite sides crucifixion, or death...There is a lot of things they won't tell you...beware of wolves in sheeps clothing Vinny...Read some books Vinny, Prophet of Doom by wynn, or books by R. Spencer, who iiki hates with a passion...Which makes Spence'rs books more credible...Check on Amazon...Prophet of Doom is free on line...
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vinny
written by duh_swami , November 22, 2011
I posted that iiki and his recommended sites won't tell you the unvarnished truth but the fluff version...The editor grabbed it for intense study, which happens sometimes, it may be posted later...At any rate don't let iiki lead you astray...
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iiki exposes himself...gets arrested
written by duh_swami , November 22, 2011
Like shiney heaty lightey healing energy!

You continue to show sheer ignorance, but that's fine with me...You have no idea what you are talking about...but that is also fine with me...You see, Jesus told Cerebrum not to throw pearls before swine...I think that's good advice, so if I don';t throw any pearls your way... you can whine and cry about it all you want...that's fine with me also...
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Islam is shrinking and imploding
written by Asma bint Marwan , November 22, 2011
Aaki can keep living your fantasy dreams.......Islam is shrinking and imploding.....
1) 6 million Muslims left Islam in Russia.....
2) 400,000 Muslims have left Islam in Malaysia.....
3) Atleast 75% of US-born children (of Muslim immigrant parents) leave Islam....
4) Within 3 years, 95% of US/European white converts leave Islam because they find out the reality of Mohammed's pedophilia/lust/violence against women and PBUH's imaginary sock puppet (a.k.a. Allah)....
4) In India, many educated Muslims (including former President, Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam and entrepreneur Azim Premji) have quietly left Islam ...
5) In Iran, 60% of the population (especially the youth) have left Islam....
6) I give Aaki an open invitation to "Leave Islam, Rejoin Humanity".
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ignore the ignorant
written by Guy Macher , November 22, 2011
This ignoramus should be ignored completely or addressed through another poster on this site. Direct contract, in his barbaric mind, seems to be an imprimatur. Addressing him through another poster allows us to discuss his shortcomings and barbarity without concomitant nonsense.
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written by Truthseeker , November 22, 2011
A change of subject here, but why is it that no Muslim seems to have a problem with the fact the Muhammad was a child molester??

They all like to spout "Times were different back then" which is total horse manure.

Child rape may have "happened" back then just as it does now, but no civilized society in ancient times ever condoned the marriage of prepubescent little girls, not until the insanity of Islam came about.
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Reply to Vinny about not getting it
written by Yibel , November 22, 2011
The Qur'an just rambles on and on with ridiculous stories that have no moral value or point to them and bare no resemblance to anything in the Bible what-so-ever. For example, the stories of King Solomon according to the Qur'an:

The Qur'an states that Solomon's palace was paved with glass so that the floor looked like a pool of water and he is provided with "a spring flowing with molten brass" and jinn (genii) slaves to make "shrines and statues and basins as large as water-troughs" (Q. 34:11- 14).

Well, first of all, glass was a rare commodity in Solomon's day, circa 950 BCE (as precious as gold according to the Book of Job), and flat sheets of glass were not even available until around CE 100; brass does not flow from springs; and there are no such thing as jinn (geniis).

Then the Qur'an also says that "We (Muhammad's pantheon of 99 gods?) subjected the wind to him" and devils (Q.21:82, 38:36) and "jinn and men and birds were called to Solomon's presence, and ranged in battle array." (Q.27:18) WOW! Imagine that, an army of birds in battle gear. And jinn, beings created from smokeless fire. How do they keep their army gear from burning up?

But it gets even better!! These gods also teach Solomon to speak in "the bird tongue" Also the ants can talk according to the Qur'an! (Q.27:17) Perfect Arabic, no doubt! And one of them warns the others that Solomon's army is coming, so they better hide.
Speaking ants who apparently knew about Solomon! Will Qur'anic wonders never end?

The Qur'an also has Solomon send someone to steal the throne of the Queen of Sheba. Why? So he can disguise it in order to see if she will recognise it. Wow! That really makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? (Q. 27:38-46)

(I really don't see how anyone can read this stuff with a straight face.)
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Asma
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
Or whoever you are! Clearly lack the minerals to use your usual user name. Coward!
Hey if them points make you sleep better at night then good for you! The giant is starting to awaken from the slumber! The signs are everywhere.

As for point 6. Be like you?
Let me know when hell freezes over! Never!
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Truthseeker
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
That's because there is no reliable evidence you cretin!
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Swampi
written by aaki , November 22, 2011
Carry on appeasing!!! Wha wha wha!
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puzzling
written by non believer , November 23, 2011
It is puzzling Aaki asks Vinny not to visit this site but his islamic sites. Why is Aaki visiting this site? Just to defaecate his head which has no brains but full of Mo's crap?
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@Yibel
written by bundypig , November 23, 2011
be careful about the talking ants, Reed Wilson really thinks this is true, he told me so, said research is being done lmao.
The research is being done at the University of Mississippi, and they are doing work on pheromones, sorta like the bee's dancing, not conversing amongst each other, much less people ;)
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on second thought...
written by bundypig , November 23, 2011
maybe if 'ol mo dances, he could trip the light fantastic with some child bees
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iili flakes off
written by duh_swami , November 23, 2011
You continue to show sheer ignorance, but that's fine with me.

You display it at every opportunity...That's fine with me too...

Keep up the good work...You are an excellent spokesman for Islam...that's also fine with me...

We can see what Islam has done for you...Isn't that just too precious...

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Truthseeker
written by duh_swami , November 23, 2011
A change of subject here, but why is it that no Muslim seems to have a problem with the fact the Muhammad was a child molester??

He's a role model to be looked up to and emulated...But for some strange reason Muslims are mostly not interested in emulating everything about him...How many Muslims go about sucking tongues?...I bet iiki knows about that...And no Muslims that I know of have ever slept with a dead woman, or drinks water from the Budaam well...
Not all Muslims are child molesters themselves, because molesting children does not appeal to everyone, but Mohammad molested them so it is Sunnah for any Muslim who wants to follow in his footsteps...Because Mohammad did it does not make it right, but it does make it acceptable...after all, he was the 'Prophet'...
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Asma bint Marwan
written by Malem , November 23, 2011
You chould check your numbers again. In Malaysia there are more than 12 million Muslims and it continue to grow, now at around 52% of the population. In Russia, many left for fear of persecution, but you probably know that. In the US, most 2nd generation tend to explore other religions, no different from Mulsims, but what you neglected to mention was that Islam in the US is in a growth path and has been for several years. Islam is an integral part of the world and humanity, it is those who wish to take away the freedom of religion and criminalize people of certain race and religions that need to take a hard look in the mirror. Remember there is no compulsion in Islam...
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Malman lies again 'there is no compulsion in Islam...'
written by duh_swami , November 24, 2011
but what you neglected to mention was that Islam in the US is in a growth path

That may be the case in a minor way, but it is not because American kuffar are lining up at mosques clamoring for conversion...that is not happening..The reason for the growth is immigration...or better, invasion...and occupation...The liberal multicultural and diversity freaks opened the door, and a lot of vermin ran in...If things are so wonderful in Islamic countries, why are there so many Muslims who run away to the west? Muslims in America have been nothing but a problem, and a pain in the rear...
Opening the door to Muslims was a mistake, that can and will be rectified...
Islam is incompatible with the US law and Constitution, due to sharia...Muslims in America have only contributed, terror attacks, honor killings, lawsuits over sharia, attempts at stifling free speech, and low level crime...and lots of whining and crying and playing victim...Does America have some special need for this nonsense? Americans have a 60+ disfavorable and distrust rate of Muslims/Islam...once that reaches 75% and Obama is gone, that will all change...watch for it...
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malem,aki,et al
written by vbv , November 24, 2011
Many muslims have actually left islam or merely nominally keep the muslim names because they cannot openly state their intent for fear of losing their life. This is evident from the fact that apostates are murdered for leaving this brutally barbaric arab cult. Moreover they realise that to follow this cult is to go to the dark age of ignorance ,fear and rabidly irrational superstitions and above servititude to arab supremacy: while these arab barbarians have nothing worthwhile to contribute to human civilisationknowledge,wisdom or morality. The founder of this barbaric cult is himself the most immoral,lecherous,murderous ,psychopathic freak thart ever was in the history of humanity. His cult is a destructive cult and a nemesis of humaN CIVILISATION AND CULTURE. Many muslims are aware of these facts but are unable to come out of this nightmarish and murderous cult because of fear of their lives and the lynching madcap muslim fanatics. Islam exists only due to coercion and brutal force. There are no human rights,dignity ,selfrespect in islam but just abject submission to the minions called mullahs,sheiks,mad dictators,caliphs, etc. This is a fact borne out in history and also visible today in muslim countries across the world like Iran,Saudi Arabia,Somalia, Sudan,Libya, Afghanistan,Pakistan,Iraq,Syria, Egypt,Palestine,Indonesia,Malaysia,Tunisia,etc .... you name it you find these great examples of lunacy and fanatic zealots of barbaric existence ,where human rights ,women's rights are the greatest casualty, educational backwardness and tyrrany rules the roost with the diktats of mullahs,sheikhs, military dictators,etc. Surely no sane ,civilised human being can stomach such a pathological disaster that goes in the name of religion.
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To Malem
written by Archpagan , November 24, 2011
You said -'it is those who wish to take away the freedom of religion and criminalize people of certain race and religions that need to take a hard look in the mirror.'

This very aptly applies to Muslims not to us. Islam has criminalized all infidels and apostates in particular. Allah hates them, directing the believers to kill them unless they accept Islam as the only true religion. Non-Muslims are considered as second class citizens in all Muslim majority countries. Apostates are punished with death. We civilized people do not do that. Because, we are confident about us and our religion. If you really want respect from us, you must accept apostasy from Islam as natural act. Otherwise, you shall be isolated from all civilized discourses.
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No one seems to find it amazing that
written by Yibel , November 25, 2011
Muhammad's 99 little tin gods could teach Solomon to speak in "the bird tongue" (Q.27:17)
but could never manage to teach Muhammad how to write. He had to hire a scribe to write his sayings down for him; and his poor little nephew Ali had to memorize and Qur'an/Recite the whole dad-blamed book by heart.

And 'ol Allah is supposed to make things happen by just saying "Be"
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No Compulsion in Islam?
written by lw1 , December 02, 2011
9.29 - Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His Messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
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@ Archpagan and Yibel
written by Cerebrum123 , December 03, 2011
Archpagan there were never any land mammals that evolved into whales. This is just pure fiction unsupported by the facts. They have changed just what land mammal it was that did the "evolving" many times. Now they say it was some kind of deer. When I was younger it was a kind of fox or dog. This kind of evolution is impossible. The change needed in the DNA is impossible by any method that they claim. Mutations and natural selection cause a loss of information or a reshuffling of already existing information. I suggest creation. com and answersingenesis. org
They both have a great deal of information on why this kind of evolution doesn't work. I also suggest looking at their articles on information theory.

Yibel , Christianity never struggled against science. This is a modern fairy tale told by evolutionists and anti-Christians. In fact the only society in which science truly flourished was in the Christian societies. In every other society science was stillborn and went no further than astrology and alchemy. Francis Bacon the one who invented the scientific method was a devout Christian. He believed that Adam before the fall, had a perfect knowledge of all science ,and that we should strive to return ourselves to this kind of knowledge. The above answersingenesis. org has a list of Christian scientists past and present. I think there are many names you would recognize especially in the past sections. It is because of Christian influence that we have modern science ,not in spite if it. Second time trying to post this. I added a space between the . and the com or org for these sites to see if that wouldhelp. Just take out the extra space to get to the sites.
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No Compulsion?
written by Faith No More! , December 15, 2011
Islam can't proclaim success as compared to other religion/belief due to the apostates law. Fear of harm to self and family, many with brains have no choice but to pretend. Not sure about muslim in US and Europe but this is the fact in muslim countries.

I believe more than 90% of muslims in the world are born as muslim. Practically, once you're in there's no way out. There's no compulsion in Islam? You must be joking! Islam is about fear, threat and bad news.

Poor Aaki's anger is typical muslim attitude when talking about religion. We are not allowed critical thinking. It is considered major blasphemy even to have slightest doubt in mind and you will be sent to hell fire. Imagine all these nonsense brainwashed from childhood....
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Lw1 - Context my friend
written by Malem , December 15, 2011
You need to read that Surah in context with 1-29 not just cherry pick one or two words to try and makea false case. This set of Surahs were done at the time when the Romans and Byzantine Emperor were planning to attack the Muslims who were settled in and around Maan. This is was a directive to fight against the invaders whom many were pagans. They tried to infiltrate the Muslims by pretending to be their friends, even gong into the mosques. So it is not a Surah that directs Muslims to go out and find non-believers to fight, rather it is a guiding message to them to prepare themselves for the evil that is coming there way and that they will have to fiht off the enemy to defend themselves. Remember there is no compulsion in Islam..
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What Context?
written by Faith No More! , December 15, 2011
Completely agree with you Lw1. Quran should be read in context. To my knowledge, all the rules in Quran were established based on incidents and contingencies that occured during that time. Hence, some are no longer relevant (out of context) to our modern society/life such as women's hair, slavery, poligamy, alcohol etc. However, I don't think this is what agreed by the religious scholars. That's why the punishment for apostacy for some Islam nations is still DEATH. Even modern multiracial country like Malaysia is under pressured by the religious scholars to have the apostacy law in the constitution to curb apostacy. Don't be surprise it will make it there one day.

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Malem context
written by Steffen Larsen , December 17, 2011
That you can turn 9:29 into a declaration of self defense is quite something. It is a clear order to subjugate those who do not become Muslims when they have been given the possibility to do so. Nothing more, nothing else but. If you do not become a Muslim or bow to Islam, then you are in deep trouble, so please spare us this tired old "there is no compulsion in islam" nonsense.
In fact, islamic history shows us that the only invaders around in time to come were the Muslims, and the earliest available Muslim sources tell us this very clearly.
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@ Malem
written by Cererum123 , December 17, 2011
I'm not too sure on this subject ,but weren't the Muslims the aggressors in this case? Didn't they even supposedly write the the Byzantine Emperor ,and he supposedly saw that Mohammed was predicted in the Bible(Mohammed is NOT predicted in the Bible btw.) Didn't they say in this letter for them to surrender and become Muslims or be attacked? Again I'm not entirely sure on this subject so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Reply to Cerebrum123 continued
written by Yibel , December 17, 2011
The Prohibitorum aimed to protect the faith and morals of Christians by
preventing the printing and reading of "immoral books" or works containing
"theological" errors. Along with Johannes Kepler, the list also contained
scientific works by Francis Bacon, Rene Descartes, Blaise Pascal and many others.

During a Roman Catholic Inquisition, Galileo was imprisioned for his heretical
beliefs of a heliocentric solar system and was forced, under threat of torture,
to recant. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest! Isaac Newton studied occult religion and alchemy (the forerunner of chemistry) in secret; if the Anglican Christian authorities had discovered this, they would have labeled him a heretic and burned him at the stake.

Regardless of how these blacklists and trials ultimately affected science, it
shows that the Catholic Church had little interest in free enquiry, especially
when it conflicted with Church dogma.

The first original science done by Christians didn't occur until the beginning of the Renaissance by the Oxford Calculators, some 1,400 years after the beginning of Christianity!

While Protestantism did improve the conditions for science, it was only because the Reformation weakened the power of the Catholic Church. Protestantism itself did little to encourage scientific investigation; from its very beginning, Protestantism abhorred scientific reasoning. Indeed, Martin Luther even condemned using reason, and instead taught that faith alone should fill the minds of Christians.
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Reply, part 3
written by Yibel , December 17, 2011
Scientific facts have never derived from religion; however, Christian religion
has conceded to science. But even here, the Catholic Church's concessions to
science have come through bitter delay. For example, not until 1992 did Pope John Paul II acquit Galileo, 359 years after his indictment of heresy! The Pope
conceded to the idea of evolution "as an effectively proven fact," 130 years
after Darwin's first publication of the fact.

(BTW, the Greek thinker, Aristarchus of Samos, developed the first heliocentric theory around 270 BCE, not Copernicus as many Christians falsely believe. The Hindus invented Western numerals, including the concepts of zero and infinity, as well as algerba and trigonomity.)

Christian medicine did not advance past that of Galen, the Greek physician of 2nd century (his medical texts and theories dominated Western Christian medicine for over 1300 years). It was not until the 1530s, during the Renaissance, that the physician Andreas Vesalius surpass Galen in the area of human anatomy.

Although the Catholic and Protestant Churches may not initially purposely set
out to destroy scientific works, the atmosphere of faith over reason stymied much scientific thought. The few Christians that did any science during the early Dark Ages had little or no impact on later Renaissance scientists.

How in the world can anyone argue that Christianity founded modern science when the Catholic Church disagreed with the very people who made some of the most important scientific discoveries in history?
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written by kuffar , December 17, 2011
@Lw1 - Context my friend
then why did muslims slaughtered buddists/hindus/jains/sikhs/persians(in dia(true zorostrians))??why did they invade india, looted exploted raped killed enslaved taxed humiliated indians??. did they do any harm these desert idiots. u cannot just ignore 1400yrs of violence and paint your religion as religion of peace. islam is crap .its a fact . no one can ignore it. and all of sudden no one is going to believe its a peace religion.
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@ Yibel part 1
written by Cererum123 , December 28, 2011
Galileo was not convicted of heresy ,but of defying a Papal decree. This was done because he was going against the science of his day ,not because he was teaching something contrary to the Bible.In fact the whole mess was started not by the Catholic Church ,but by Galileo's scientist colleagues. It was science against science ,one set of science being based on pagan science sources (those who held to geocentrism) ,and the other based on a Bible believing scientist Galileo. In fact he was originally highly favored by the Catholic Church ,and Pope Paul V wouldn't even allow him to kneel in front of him as is usually done. The Dark Ages is a misnomer. In fact there was a great deal of scientific advance during this period. Water power ,wind power ,spectacles ,the stirrup ,magnificent architecture ,and the blast furnace were all developed in the so called "Dark Ages". During this time it was the Catholic Church that was specifically supporting these scientific advances. Christianity provided the basic framework necessary for modern science ,but it wasn't until the Reformation that it really took off. This happened ,because of a renewed interest in looking at the Bible. Once they recovered the historical grammatical approach to looking at the Bible science flourished. Once people started studying what the Bible actually said ,they then began studying nature for the way it actually worked. The Catholic Church helped preserve ancient texts rather than destroy them. Without Biblical presuppositions (such that this is an orderly universe that can be understood by us since we are made in the image of God) we wouldn't have modern science. Copernicus' idea was a little different than Aristarchus. Aristarchus believed that the sun was completely stationary I'm also saying that MODERN SCIENCE was founded on Biblical presuppositions. I never said that not one person before Christianity ever made any useful scientific discoveries. It wasn't until Christian Europe ,and people like Francis Bacon that science truly became what we know it to be today. In other cultures they didn't get past alchemy and astrology. Actually Catholic Churches were the centers of scientific research for quite a while. No one was ever burnt at the stake for scientific ideas. Just because the Pope says something is fact doesn't mean it is.
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@ Yibel part 2
written by Cererum123 , December 28, 2011
GTE (general theory of evolution) is the greatest lie brought about since Islam. It has also brought about a massive amount of killing in a very short time. Eugenics ,abortion ,Hitler ,Stalin, Mao, etc. Just because the Pope claims something to be fact doesn't mean it is. GTE isn't a fact ,and isn't a real scientific theory either. It's an ancient Greek religion popularized ,and repackaged by Darwin. GTE is literally IMPOSSIBLE. Everything we know about life goes AGAINST this "theory". There is absolutely no natural mechanism for an organism to produce brand new structures (such as ,gills ,lungs ,wings ,feathers etc) through natural selection ,and mutation. You need NEW information to be ADDED to the organism. Natural selection and mutation either shuffle existing information ,or information is lost entirely. Not to mention the law of biogenesis (which means that life can only come from life). Even the second law of thermodynamics makes the first so called "simple" one celled organism IMPOSSIBLE to come about through purely natural processes. Not only that ,but evolutionists are completely fine with lying to keep this insane religion alive. You have Haeckel's embryo's ,archaeoraptor ,piltdown man(and most of the other "hominids" too) , peppered moths (this one isn't even a problem if it was real because I'm not denying genetic variability and natural selection) etc. Here's a quote from Bora Zivkovic "it's ok to use some inaccuracies temporarily if they help you reach the students" This person is for using KNOWN LIES to preach GTE. Eugenie Scott is for this lying as well ,because teaching students about Creation "may lead them to reject one of the major themes in science". Darwin himself just plagiarized this "theory" from his grandfather ,the Greeks ,and certain contemporaries of his day. Evolution is a religion with no morals ,and inevitably leads to moral decline. It is also a patently FALSE "theory". Why should anyone accept GTE as science when even the person credited with the idea has absolutely no problem with stealing ideas from others and publishing them as his own? Evolution the religion with no morality , and no science.
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