Wafa Sultan wanted to expose Islam is debate with Imam Omar Bakri, but no chance.. The Imam exposed Islam by himself.
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written by pipo , May 20, 2012
Wow!, indeed a fine example of an out-and-out islamofascist. And like Wafa Sultan points out, no doubt a true muslim.
Abc, do you agree with him?
written by fineliving56 , May 20, 2012
All about, either war or submission … No other way in Islam
Shiek Omar Bakri exposed the real truth of Islamic thinking that ,This site and all of us trying to say for long time now to and the liars who use obfuscation to … deny .. deny … deny
Well I respect Bakri for at least not LYING unlike the muslim posters here ..
Here the Omar shiek him self admit the abslute truth about Islam … coming from Quran and Shriah it self …
To ...Waffa Sulttan … You are my hero … you are the hero among all others who are out their .. exposing Islam and slam it, right back to their faces.
Anti al raida likul al nesa al Muslimat al zeen tarako Islam … nahnu waraki wa ana ohibuki katheeran .
Shiek Omar Bakri exposed the real truth of Islamic thinking that ,This site and all of us trying to say for long time now to and the liars who use obfuscation to … deny .. deny … deny
Well I respect Bakri for at least not LYING unlike the muslim posters here ..
Here the Omar shiek him self admit the abslute truth about Islam … coming from Quran and Shriah it self …
To ...Waffa Sulttan … You are my hero … you are the hero among all others who are out their .. exposing Islam and slam it, right back to their faces.
Anti al raida likul al nesa al Muslimat al zeen tarako Islam … nahnu waraki wa ana ohibuki katheeran .
written by Guy Macher , May 20, 2012
No goatbeard is a match for Wafa. She is smart and has truth on her side.
written by Amboyduke , May 20, 2012
Of course ABC and M&P will DISAGREE with him.
Why, only they know.
How many times does the truh about islam have to be revealed?
ABC and M&P are too bright to TRULY support islam if they swallow their stupid pride and face the facts.
They would HAVE to leave islam if they were the slightest bit honest with themselves.
The inbred coots that are half nuts will stick it out as they are ripe for this kind of lunacy, but muslims like these 2 surely are not that stupid...proud, no doubt...but not stupid.
Maybe that's why they don't comment on here much lately...they're pondering the stark reality of their "religion" and maybe have seen the light, but won't admit islam is "CRAZY!!!".
Why, only they know.
How many times does the truh about islam have to be revealed?
ABC and M&P are too bright to TRULY support islam if they swallow their stupid pride and face the facts.
They would HAVE to leave islam if they were the slightest bit honest with themselves.
The inbred coots that are half nuts will stick it out as they are ripe for this kind of lunacy, but muslims like these 2 surely are not that stupid...proud, no doubt...but not stupid.
Maybe that's why they don't comment on here much lately...they're pondering the stark reality of their "religion" and maybe have seen the light, but won't admit islam is "CRAZY!!!".
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 20, 2012
Now I call "ABC" and the likes of him to TELL this Scholar HE is wrong! If their Islam is the correct version, what do they here to teach us UNBELIEVERS/Kaffirs/Infidels if they should be out EDUCATING the Muslim world. After all Muslims are taking the words of these Scholars and act upon them, while the "real" Islam is piece ahm peace..... Muslims should be taught....
written by fineliving56 , May 20, 2012
I wrote a post to this article and it did not appear ..
hopefully it does … thanks
hopefully it does … thanks
written by y.m , May 20, 2012
Muslims being supremacists who think they have divine right to rule over the rest of mankind.Islam is a set of belife and rules that militate aganist human prosperity,happiness welfare, freedom of thought,equality,and knowledge.Bakri confirmed in this debate that islam is uniquely evil and wicked.In the west many know that islam is a vicious snake and yet they keep on feeding it thinking that they will be bitted last.Mr, Bakri is a true muslim and he did not play taqqiya in this debate.
written by balam , May 20, 2012
I admire Mr.Bakri for his HONESTY which is a rare quality among the followers of Mohammad.If any body wants to understand him,he should put SATAN in place of Allah and Mohammad being his AGENT.West is out of its wits to keep,protect and feed this SNAKE as KHOMENI was reared by France.He could also lead Syria one day and prove a dangerous force .West has lost its MARBLES.It is going to crumble and disappear one day like other civilizations.Coming events cast their shadows before.The West has dug its own grave.Good luck Mr.Bakri.Mohammad was also an opportunist like you and look at the state he has driven the world into.COMPLETE CHAOS!!!!
written by Shinigami-Sama , May 20, 2012
wow a muslim owned himself in a debate....... Classic
lololololololol
lololololololol
written by HARKAT UL JIHAD EI KAFIROOON , May 21, 2012
finally a rare discoevry : a truthful muslims !!!
written by help , May 22, 2012
Please read this link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147559/Shafilea-Ahmed-Parents-murdered-teenage-daughter-conduct-bringing-shame-family.html#ixzz1vZwI8Asm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147559/Shafilea-Ahmed-Parents-murdered-teenage-daughter-conduct-bringing-shame-family.html#ixzz1vZwI8Asm
written by vbv , May 22, 2012
abc, razhak, reedwilson,malem ,etc are conspicuous by their deathly silence after the expose of the true intent of the barbaric cult of islam - arab-supremacy, subjugation of freedom and destruction of civilisations. hahahahahahha !!! these chaps have lost their face for they cannot dissemble and bluff their way out anymore !
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Im here fella but the admin team have banned my ip address. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Let's post this and see.
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Game on!!!
Is this the same mr Bakri that all the Islam watchers were saying is a deluded fool.
See only a few articles ago!!
Now he is a knowledgeable scholar when he says something you like!
he can't be both????
Is this the same mr Bakri that all the Islam watchers were saying is a deluded fool.
See only a few articles ago!!
Now he is a knowledgeable scholar when he says something you like!
he can't be both????
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Deluded wafa is harping on about individual rights and Omar is harping on about the rights of a theocratic Islamic state upon the individual.
Unfortunately they are not on the same subject!!!
Unfortunately they are not on the same subject!!!
written by abc , May 22, 2012
Come on step up!! I don't know how long I'm gonna be barred for this time!
It's working now and I'm ready to discuss your points!!!
It's working now and I'm ready to discuss your points!!!
written by fineliving56 , May 22, 2012
When Omar said truthful things about Islam teachings .. that DOES NOT MEAN THE CONtENT OF WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THE RIGHT THINGS FOR MUSLIMS TO DO and for Islam to have that kind of backwrd teashings like considering non Muslims not as equal as Muslims …. etc ..! [/b
Do you see the difference ?.. or are you going to continue to defend aimlessly.
Hey … Do you defined such unfair kind of thinking ?
Do you agree with Imam Bakri ? ….
Do you think non Muslims are not equal Muslims in Islam ?
Do you see the difference ?.. or are you going to continue to defend aimlessly.
Hey … Do you defined such unfair kind of thinking ?
Do you agree with Imam Bakri ? ….
Do you think non Muslims are not equal Muslims in Islam ?
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Clearly you didn't bother reading the above post.
Omar is describing the rights of people in an Islamic theocracy!
Wafa is talking about individual rights!
See the difference??
Omar is describing the rights of people in an Islamic theocracy!
Wafa is talking about individual rights!
See the difference??
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
Well I for one would not want to live ANY "Islamic theocrazy" (misspelling on purpose here.) Your brother of faith is advocating, (even if they talk about two different points, which I do not see) HIS Islamic Ideals, of a society he envisions. Now you see the difference yet you did not "type" something like: His opinion are NOT shared by me ABC. Here again you fail to make a clear stand, that this guy does not advocate your Islamic ideals, IOW that he is wrong. Now tell the readers here, is this "scholar" wrong? YES or NO?
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
I watched this video about 19 seconds and quit when he mentioned a occupied "Palestine"
The top Honcho of the PLO Arafat used to speak in a Egyptian drawl and was born in Cairo.
Funny is, when Iraq (Saddam Hussein) invaded Kuwait, and the US helped out, no rejection of this help was heard in the other part of the ARAB world.... Muslims do not mind if the Unbelievers are stupid enough to risk their lives to help Muslims..
Now the question is if indeed Muslims would have set foot on the American continent FIRST, I doubt that ALL the PAGANS they found there in South Mid or North-America were left alone and could continue with their "religions". So while it is unfortunate that many Native-Americans died because some sicknesses of the Europeans they could not survive, I just wonder if the ships carrying Slaves would have NOT sailed toward the Americans, but FROM IT carrying Slaves AWAY from this continent, given the history of Islam, a very likely scenario...
The top Honcho of the PLO Arafat used to speak in a Egyptian drawl and was born in Cairo.
Funny is, when Iraq (Saddam Hussein) invaded Kuwait, and the US helped out, no rejection of this help was heard in the other part of the ARAB world.... Muslims do not mind if the Unbelievers are stupid enough to risk their lives to help Muslims..
Now the question is if indeed Muslims would have set foot on the American continent FIRST, I doubt that ALL the PAGANS they found there in South Mid or North-America were left alone and could continue with their "religions". So while it is unfortunate that many Native-Americans died because some sicknesses of the Europeans they could not survive, I just wonder if the ships carrying Slaves would have NOT sailed toward the Americans, but FROM IT carrying Slaves AWAY from this continent, given the history of Islam, a very likely scenario...
written by abc , May 22, 2012
right my phone is now blocked so i gotta be quick on this.
person A and person B.
Person A has some rights over person B in return
person B has the same right over person A.
That is what sultan is talking about.
Person A and B have certain rights over the state
The state has certain right over A and B
This is what omar is talking about.
i cannot make it any more simple than that.
person A and person B.
Person A has some rights over person B in return
person B has the same right over person A.
That is what sultan is talking about.
Person A and B have certain rights over the state
The state has certain right over A and B
This is what omar is talking about.
i cannot make it any more simple than that.
written by abc , May 22, 2012
quick question
18915 attacks quoted by you in another post as attacks done.
what is the source of this information?
the US? UN?
can you give me the source so i can see it too?
18915 attacks quoted by you in another post as attacks done.
what is the source of this information?
the US? UN?
can you give me the source so i can see it too?
written by fineliving56 , May 22, 2012
Who do you think you are fooling ?
Sultan is talking about the same thing Omar is taking about …
She said '' hukuk al insan fi la Islam '' … that means the humen right in * shariah* and Islam … it is not just people rights toward each other
He and she were talking about the rights of non Muslims and Muslims in Sariah Islam … no difference …
beside when she said it … he did not correct here !! … he agreed and was proud of him self agreeing that Islam does not have the same rights between Muslims and non Muslim and even added between women and man ..
BTW
You mean you do not know of how many acts of terrorism done by your Muslim brothers??? …. I thought you are working on stopping these misunderstanders of Islam and you wanted to tell them that they are making people hate Islam !!!??? …
Well … Where have you been ? … you do not listen to the news?
Ok … I will tell you … You can find it … at *** thereligionofpeace.com *** … you can read all about it in there .. you can read about each islamic attack this month in details if you still in doubt.
Sultan is talking about the same thing Omar is taking about …
She said '' hukuk al insan fi la Islam '' … that means the humen right in * shariah* and Islam … it is not just people rights toward each other
He and she were talking about the rights of non Muslims and Muslims in Sariah Islam … no difference …
beside when she said it … he did not correct here !! … he agreed and was proud of him self agreeing that Islam does not have the same rights between Muslims and non Muslim and even added between women and man ..
BTW
You mean you do not know of how many acts of terrorism done by your Muslim brothers??? …. I thought you are working on stopping these misunderstanders of Islam and you wanted to tell them that they are making people hate Islam !!!??? …
Well … Where have you been ? … you do not listen to the news?
Ok … I will tell you … You can find it … at *** thereligionofpeace.com *** … you can read all about it in there .. you can read about each islamic attack this month in details if you still in doubt.
written by Yibel , May 22, 2012
In Islam, Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and the 97 others) demand that believers surrender to them completely and obey their every command as given in their Holy Book, the Quran, TOTALLY!
And, Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and the 97 others) state that everything recorded in the Quran is their own words and that Muhammad was the persect man and must be obeyed as a god.
Furthermore, Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and 97 others) unconditionally demand that their followers OBEY the Quran absolutely in all things.
Muslim scholars of more than 200 Islamic sects agree, confirm, and believe this is
absolutely true and that it is mandatory to obey Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and 97 others) commands in the Quran with no reservation of any kind by every believing Muslim. NO ‘ifs’ NO 'ands' and NO ‘buts’ are allowed - except butts up in the air, of course!
Joke of the day - five times a day!
Muslims never notice this, but when they are bowing down to the stone of the Ka'aba to "pray" (i.e. worshiping the stone), their butts are pointing to Makkah as well because the earth is a sphere.
Question for Abc - you say: "Person A has some rights over person B in return
person B has the same right over person A. That is what sultan is talking about. "
Are you saying that if person A, a husband, has the "right" to beat person B, his wife - then person B (wife) can beat person A (husband) right back? Where is that written in the Qur'an?
How about if person A, a Muslim, slaughters person B, a kafir - - as required by Islamic law! Does person B (the kafir) have an equal right to slaughter person A (the Muslim)? Where does the Qur'an stand on this issue?
And, Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and the 97 others) state that everything recorded in the Quran is their own words and that Muhammad was the persect man and must be obeyed as a god.
Furthermore, Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and 97 others) unconditionally demand that their followers OBEY the Quran absolutely in all things.
Muslim scholars of more than 200 Islamic sects agree, confirm, and believe this is
absolutely true and that it is mandatory to obey Allah/Ar-Rahman/Ar-Raheem (and 97 others) commands in the Quran with no reservation of any kind by every believing Muslim. NO ‘ifs’ NO 'ands' and NO ‘buts’ are allowed - except butts up in the air, of course!
Joke of the day - five times a day!
Muslims never notice this, but when they are bowing down to the stone of the Ka'aba to "pray" (i.e. worshiping the stone), their butts are pointing to Makkah as well because the earth is a sphere.
Question for Abc - you say: "Person A has some rights over person B in return
person B has the same right over person A. That is what sultan is talking about. "
Are you saying that if person A, a husband, has the "right" to beat person B, his wife - then person B (wife) can beat person A (husband) right back? Where is that written in the Qur'an?
How about if person A, a Muslim, slaughters person B, a kafir - - as required by Islamic law! Does person B (the kafir) have an equal right to slaughter person A (the Muslim)? Where does the Qur'an stand on this issue?
written by fineliving56 , May 22, 2012
There is no foundation to abc claim …. Sultan and Omar are talking about the same thing and he knows it and Omar him self knew it …
he is just obfuscating designed to fool and blur things .
good examples you have brought …
he is just obfuscating designed to fool and blur things .
good examples you have brought …
written by abc , May 22, 2012
I think if you look up the word obfuscate in the dictioanary it will have your picture next to it.
The resident arab speaker lies!
You do realise that there are subtitles at the bottom in english?
"She said '' hukuk al insan fi la Islam '' … that means the humen right in * shariah* and Islam … it is not just people rights toward each other". These are your words.
What do you think that encompasses rights of humans to eachother and the state and vice versa. That is what is meant by hukuk al insan fi la islam.
Now can you explain this to the non arab speakers why omar is talking about treaties, taxes, states of war and states of peace???? If omar was talking about individual rights then why mention tax, treaties and states of war???
These are functions of the STATE. He is talking about the rights of individuals in the STATE.
That is different to what she is talking about. Do you deny this?
Also if you knew anything about omar you know he was a former member of hizb ut tahrir, Their only gole is the reestablishment of the khilafah. If you knew that then you would know he studied most of sheikh taqadeen an nabhanis books. Which are all about the ISLAMIC STATE.
You have been exposed this time. Maybe next time you will have the dignity to speak the truth.
The resident arab speaker lies!
You do realise that there are subtitles at the bottom in english?
"She said '' hukuk al insan fi la Islam '' … that means the humen right in * shariah* and Islam … it is not just people rights toward each other". These are your words.
What do you think that encompasses rights of humans to eachother and the state and vice versa. That is what is meant by hukuk al insan fi la islam.
Now can you explain this to the non arab speakers why omar is talking about treaties, taxes, states of war and states of peace???? If omar was talking about individual rights then why mention tax, treaties and states of war???
These are functions of the STATE. He is talking about the rights of individuals in the STATE.
That is different to what she is talking about. Do you deny this?
Also if you knew anything about omar you know he was a former member of hizb ut tahrir, Their only gole is the reestablishment of the khilafah. If you knew that then you would know he studied most of sheikh taqadeen an nabhanis books. Which are all about the ISLAMIC STATE.
You have been exposed this time. Maybe next time you will have the dignity to speak the truth.
written by abc , May 22, 2012
Great job. You get your stats from a hate website.
Excellent work. So those figures have no authority what so ever.
NONE.
Do you really want me to copy and paste some comments from your reference hate site to show you the kind of people that read that crap and post comments there?
Excellent work. So those figures have no authority what so ever.
NONE.
Do you really want me to copy and paste some comments from your reference hate site to show you the kind of people that read that crap and post comments there?
written by abc , May 22, 2012
maybe you can translate this and remember it before its too late.
ختم الله على قلوبهم وعلى سمعهم وعلى أبصارهم غشاوة ولهم عذاب عظيم
ختم الله على قلوبهم وعلى سمعهم وعلى أبصارهم غشاوة ولهم عذاب عظيم
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
Is this your goal as well? When I asked if you want Sharia enforced, I did not find a reply, so again, do you desire to see this Islamic state, which indeed has different laws for Muslims and Non-Muslims. A simple question is it not? I would not want to live in this theocrazy especially if it build upon lies, like any deity like the stoned-gawd allah is real.
As to hate, if allah punishes people by burning their skin over and over again for eternity, is this a sign for his compassion and love?
For "thereligionofpeace.com" where is the "comment section" there, after all I can see are links to other sources and blogs...
One link points to this story:
2012.05.21 (Sanaa, Yemen) - An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates amid a crowd of Yemeni soldiers, massacring about one-hundred.
As to hate, if allah punishes people by burning their skin over and over again for eternity, is this a sign for his compassion and love?
For "thereligionofpeace.com" where is the "comment section" there, after all I can see are links to other sources and blogs...
One link points to this story:
2012.05.21 (Sanaa, Yemen) - An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates amid a crowd of Yemeni soldiers, massacring about one-hundred.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 22, 2012
I typed above:
One link points to this story:
2012.05.21 (Sanaa, Yemen) - An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates amid a crowd of Yemeni soldiers, massacring about one-hundred.
###
This is not correct, it mentions the case , but there is no direct link to a story yet.
One link points to this story:
2012.05.21 (Sanaa, Yemen) - An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates amid a crowd of Yemeni soldiers, massacring about one-hundred.
###
This is not correct, it mentions the case , but there is no direct link to a story yet.
written by Amboyduke , May 22, 2012
Vbv
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Game on!!!
Is this the same mr Bakri that all the Islam watchers were saying is a deluded fool.
See only a few articles ago!!
Now he is a knowledgeable scholar when he says something you like!
he can't be both????
*********************************
Sure, he can be both.
Especially in the context of making a fool of himself...when everyone on here knows that the crap he was on about a few articles ago was gibberish, and the garbage he was slobbering on about in this article was also gibberish...both spoken by a deluded fool.
The things he mentions in this video are the TRUE islamic beliefs....but even though HE believes it to be true...we normal human beings know it to be absolute bullshit hogwash...right?
He is obviously a paranoid/schizophrenic. He believes everything he says, and so must you ABC, if you are a true muslim...right?
So let's just define him as a "TRUE islamic scholar who reflects the true LUNACY of islam." He IS a deluded fool, but he DOES speak the "TRUTH" about islam.
The fact that the "TRUTH" is composed of mentally ill "delusional thinking" is the point.
Muslims think it to be true, but sane, rational people know it to be rubbish.
I can tell you what I mean, ABC, but I can't help you understand what I'm saying.
It might be beyond your grasp, but TRY.
Tell us....what is your take on what he says in this video?
I'd truly like to know, but as usual, you will not answer the question...but give it a try...for us poor stupid infidels, will you, please?
written by Abc , May 22, 2012
Game on!!!
Is this the same mr Bakri that all the Islam watchers were saying is a deluded fool.
See only a few articles ago!!
Now he is a knowledgeable scholar when he says something you like!
he can't be both????
*********************************
Sure, he can be both.
Especially in the context of making a fool of himself...when everyone on here knows that the crap he was on about a few articles ago was gibberish, and the garbage he was slobbering on about in this article was also gibberish...both spoken by a deluded fool.
The things he mentions in this video are the TRUE islamic beliefs....but even though HE believes it to be true...we normal human beings know it to be absolute bullshit hogwash...right?
He is obviously a paranoid/schizophrenic. He believes everything he says, and so must you ABC, if you are a true muslim...right?
So let's just define him as a "TRUE islamic scholar who reflects the true LUNACY of islam." He IS a deluded fool, but he DOES speak the "TRUTH" about islam.
The fact that the "TRUTH" is composed of mentally ill "delusional thinking" is the point.
Muslims think it to be true, but sane, rational people know it to be rubbish.
I can tell you what I mean, ABC, but I can't help you understand what I'm saying.
It might be beyond your grasp, but TRY.
Tell us....what is your take on what he says in this video?
I'd truly like to know, but as usual, you will not answer the question...but give it a try...for us poor stupid infidels, will you, please?
written by fineliving , May 22, 2012
Translate this to my self? … or to you ?
That part of Quran you brought could fit you and other Muslims like you, perfectly …don't you think ? ….
let us see …
The Arabic words you brought from the merciful Quran says '' Allah has sealed their heart and their hearing and their sight [ thats supposedly us ] with coating and we [ Allah ] give them great torture ….
Mercy at its finest…..
abc … you couldn't have brought better part from Quran .. it is only proovs your Quran is nothing but a torture instruction book … the words do not lie .
You say I changed the truth … haha … why would I ? …
When the truth about Quran and Hadeeth and Quran are so brutal and so rich with of all kind of unbelievable acts and events … that I do not have the rich imagination that is need it to come up with better and more dramatic things then already has .
The coating on your eyes suite you, Muslim … you can not see dissipation that all over your Quran when you read it … WOW …
I do not care about Omar Bakri … he is but a slave to his demented mind … and he will be dead by the time all the Muslims decide to nominate a Khalifa …
he wants to bring back Khalifa ? … good luck … Every sect will want their own … and the Arabs will have the head of any other Muslims who would dare to think to have a Khalifa other then an Arab …
We will see the REAL blood bath, then … sad to say …
if you did not know… almost every Khalifa was murdered and almost non of them died naturally, through out history of Islam … any future Khaifa will have a target sign on his back… sad to say .
So … what is your position Muslim ? … Do you think Muslims have more rights and deserve more rights then non Muslims like Omar said ? .. you have not answerd that … aperntly you are avoiding it … how come ? .. are you ashamed to say !!??
BTW …
I got back my dignity when I refused and stopped believing in a man [ Muhammad ] who gave in, to his desire for a child and was not smart enough to realize, a prophet should leave a little child of 9 years old girl alone ..
What is your excuse for believing in a pedophile ? … where is your dignity?
That part of Quran you brought could fit you and other Muslims like you, perfectly …don't you think ? ….
let us see …
The Arabic words you brought from the merciful Quran says '' Allah has sealed their heart and their hearing and their sight [ thats supposedly us ] with coating and we [ Allah ] give them great torture ….
Mercy at its finest…..
abc … you couldn't have brought better part from Quran .. it is only proovs your Quran is nothing but a torture instruction book … the words do not lie .
You say I changed the truth … haha … why would I ? …
When the truth about Quran and Hadeeth and Quran are so brutal and so rich with of all kind of unbelievable acts and events … that I do not have the rich imagination that is need it to come up with better and more dramatic things then already has .
The coating on your eyes suite you, Muslim … you can not see dissipation that all over your Quran when you read it … WOW …
I do not care about Omar Bakri … he is but a slave to his demented mind … and he will be dead by the time all the Muslims decide to nominate a Khalifa …
he wants to bring back Khalifa ? … good luck … Every sect will want their own … and the Arabs will have the head of any other Muslims who would dare to think to have a Khalifa other then an Arab …
We will see the REAL blood bath, then … sad to say …
if you did not know… almost every Khalifa was murdered and almost non of them died naturally, through out history of Islam … any future Khaifa will have a target sign on his back… sad to say .
So … what is your position Muslim ? … Do you think Muslims have more rights and deserve more rights then non Muslims like Omar said ? .. you have not answerd that … aperntly you are avoiding it … how come ? .. are you ashamed to say !!??
BTW …
I got back my dignity when I refused and stopped believing in a man [ Muhammad ] who gave in, to his desire for a child and was not smart enough to realize, a prophet should leave a little child of 9 years old girl alone ..
What is your excuse for believing in a pedophile ? … where is your dignity?
written by fineliving56 , May 22, 2012
Muslims cannot deny that fact … Muslims say hate sits brings lies about Muslims … but all they have to do is see the national news and ...news from all over the world which that is what I do to verify and make sure ..
The list of terrorist acts was described in thereligionofpeace.com was in details and could be verifies easily from other sources …
Denying truths makes one look silly …
The list of terrorist acts was described in thereligionofpeace.com was in details and could be verifies easily from other sources …
Denying truths makes one look silly …
written by vbv , May 23, 2012
Theocratic state is the final nail in the coffin of humanrights and liberties. Liberties are solely with mullahs/padres who call the shots citing from bullshit "holy books" like quran and bible to oppress ,suppress human hopes and creativities to subserve theocratic monsters who would cheat, rob, rape, murder in the name of their shit called "god" and religion, taking everyone to the stoneage-level existence , dark and unenlightened. So what are you crowing about? If you are so fanatical about islam , you should live in Saudi Arabia, Iran ,Somalia etc . Why do you live in the west and talk all that hypocritical bullshit??
written by pipo , May 23, 2012
@abc
Once in a fairytale there was a God named ALLAH. Lets say he was ARBITRARY
And then there were Allah's favorites, his BELIEVERS. Lets say they were BIGOTTED
Also there were the unbelievers (former) CHRISTIANS, dhimmis, atheists, relativists. Lets say they were CORRUPT (often mistaken for Correct)
Now the story as told by Omar Bakri, renowned scholar in this particular fairytale, goes like this;
In the eyes of A, B and C are not equals
Where the B are predominant. B have rights over C
Where the C are predominent. B still claim to have rights over C
Because nothing can go above A, blood and property of C are permissable for B
Is that simple enough for you...SIMPLETON!!!!!????
Once in a fairytale there was a God named ALLAH. Lets say he was ARBITRARY
And then there were Allah's favorites, his BELIEVERS. Lets say they were BIGOTTED
Also there were the unbelievers (former) CHRISTIANS, dhimmis, atheists, relativists. Lets say they were CORRUPT (often mistaken for Correct)
Now the story as told by Omar Bakri, renowned scholar in this particular fairytale, goes like this;
In the eyes of A, B and C are not equals
Where the B are predominant. B have rights over C
Where the C are predominent. B still claim to have rights over C
Because nothing can go above A, blood and property of C are permissable for B
Is that simple enough for you...SIMPLETON!!!!!????
written by abc , May 23, 2012
"If you are so fanatical about islam , you should live in Saudi Arabia, Iran ,Somalia etc . Why do you live in the west and talk all that hypocritical bullshit?? "
because i was born here and this is my home, stupid.
do all catholics live in rome?
i would say that you believe in vedic teachings then why dont you live in india??
how dumb is your question.
because i was born here and this is my home, stupid.
do all catholics live in rome?
i would say that you believe in vedic teachings then why dont you live in india??
how dumb is your question.
written by abc , May 23, 2012
"Now the story as told by Omar Bakri, renowned scholar in this particular fairytale, goes like this;
In the eyes of A, B and C are not equals
Where the B are predominant. B have rights over C
Where the C are predominent. B still claim to have rights over C
Because nothing can go above A, blood and property of C are permissable for B"
UNDER THE BANNER OF A THEOCRATIC STATE, you missed that bit smart guy.
In the eyes of A, B and C are not equals
Where the B are predominant. B have rights over C
Where the C are predominent. B still claim to have rights over C
Because nothing can go above A, blood and property of C are permissable for B"
UNDER THE BANNER OF A THEOCRATIC STATE, you missed that bit smart guy.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 23, 2012
OK ABC this is fine now, it is clear that he speaks about a "Islamic Theocrazy". Thanks for emphasizing this point. Now is this just the deluded rambling of some deluded fool (as ABC hinted) or are there other Muslims who want to aid the establishment of this "theocrazy".... The Salafist in Germany wants this and there are quite a few States in the Islamic world which could be called theocrazies. So while ABC does not tire so it seems to point this out, some questions he does not answer. Can this "theocrazy" be JUSTIFIED by the Islamic writing and if yes, does he look forward to live in one such society? If not, what does he do to quell this foolishness? Engaging the Unbelievers here will not help to stop the spread of this desire to establish the UNISLAMIC "theocrazy" so how can he contribute that such a unjust society can not build up?
Of course this idea or notion "one has rights over another" can only come out of a system of thought in which humans are not the "children" of deity, but simply his slaves, because slaves can not be "equal" to those who consider themselves as "master". Only in a truly free society in which genuine respect for humans are the guidelines for conduct, can total equality be established, alas Islam is not capable of this, otherwise large portions of the world would be already be a bacon of hope....
Of course this idea or notion "one has rights over another" can only come out of a system of thought in which humans are not the "children" of deity, but simply his slaves, because slaves can not be "equal" to those who consider themselves as "master". Only in a truly free society in which genuine respect for humans are the guidelines for conduct, can total equality be established, alas Islam is not capable of this, otherwise large portions of the world would be already be a bacon of hope....
written by def , May 23, 2012
"If you are so fanatical about islam , you should live in Saudi Arabia, Iran ,Somalia etc . Why do you live in the west and talk all that hypocritical bullshit?? "
because i was born here and this is my home, stupid.
Don't point to others abc..answer the question "why don't you migrate to a Muslim country to live in dar ul Islam rather than prefer to live in kafir land." what is stopping you to live next to your prophet Muhammad?
Forget others you are not answerable for others you should think about yourself and migrate and start living in your beloved prophet's land.
Don't you want to live in Prophet Muhammad's neighborhood???
written by xyz , May 23, 2012
"because i was born here and this is my home, stupid. "
Don't point to others abc..answer the question "why don't you migrate to a Muslim country to live in dar ul Islam rather than prefer to live in kafir land." what is stopping you to live next to your prophet Muhammad?
Forget others you are not answerable for others you should think about yourself and migrate and start living in your beloved prophet's land.
Don't you want to live in Prophet Muhammad's neighborhood???
written by abc , May 23, 2012
Still a stupid question!
I'm home. This is where I was born, this is where my friends and family reside!
Like I said do all Catholics live in Rome?
I'm home. This is where I was born, this is where my friends and family reside!
Like I said do all Catholics live in Rome?
written by invisible hooligan , May 23, 2012
we can only hope to witness that progress is being made cleaning up the problems with the islamic infection - by having the bakris of the world executed like the pigs they are. At least he was honest. An honest pig that should be taken out to sea and dropped there for the sharks
written by Amboyduke , May 24, 2012
ABC...
So what if you were born there...take you AND your family/friends WITH YOU.
If you were a TRUE muslim, you must surely want to be closer to your prophet's homeland.
The British government would save lotsa $$$ if they PAID for the deportation of ALL of you.
So what if you were born there...take you AND your family/friends WITH YOU.
If you were a TRUE muslim, you must surely want to be closer to your prophet's homeland.
The British government would save lotsa $$$ if they PAID for the deportation of ALL of you.
written by xyz , May 24, 2012
"Still a stupid question!
I'm home. This is where I was born, this is where my friends and family reside!
Like I said do all Catholics live in Rome?"
Let's see who is talking stupid.
Many Muslims migrates to a kafir land leaving their friends and family (this is what your Father did) ?
Why can't you leave your family and friends to live close to Prophet Muhammad the most sacred place on earth for a Muslim?
Do not compare yourself to Catholics or Hindus as I said ...And inform us why your father left his country, his family and his friends and preffered to live and raise his children in a kafir land??
I'm home. This is where I was born, this is where my friends and family reside!
Like I said do all Catholics live in Rome?"
Let's see who is talking stupid.
Many Muslims migrates to a kafir land leaving their friends and family (this is what your Father did) ?
Why can't you leave your family and friends to live close to Prophet Muhammad the most sacred place on earth for a Muslim?
Do not compare yourself to Catholics or Hindus as I said ...And inform us why your father left his country, his family and his friends and preffered to live and raise his children in a kafir land??
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 24, 2012
Do you as a devout Muslim ABC support the notion that Scharia the base for Islamic theocrazy be enforced in any country? In case of YES I leave it up to you if you want to explain wy,h if NO what are you going to do to prevent it if this turns out to be Un-Islamic? Do you allow "radicals" to hijack YOUR peaceful religion?
written by Yibel , May 24, 2012
and their hearing and their sight...
Allah is really talking about ITS own followers - there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Muslims are the walking dead Islamic flatliners.
There is NO concept of personal freedom or rights in the Islamic system. That is
WHY Omar Bakri is talking about treaties and taxes, etc. He simply cannot conceive of the idea of personhood - that the individual matters and has the right to protection FROM the state (Islam). The concept of due process of law, justice, personal responsibility for ones own actions - these are all alien ideals that do not fit with the Islam. The ummah is a form of supreme tribalism which favors what the West traditionally considers to be vices: greed, sloth, lust, lack of self restraint, lying, coveting that which one's neighbor possesses, etc.
The only responsibility the believer/follower of Islam has is to worship the Dar al Islam and obey the Dar al-Islam in all things. And Dar al-Islam has rules for everything. Muhammad suffered from a severe case of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) and he was a contol freak. He made up rules for everything from personal hygiene (how many rocks to wipe butts with) to what to do when a fly lands in your soup (one wing has bad stuff, one wing has good stuff, so be sure that the fly dips both of its wings before flying off). Islam is a complete mind-controlled zombie freak show.
Allah is really talking about ITS own followers - there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Muslims are the walking dead Islamic flatliners.
There is NO concept of personal freedom or rights in the Islamic system. That is
WHY Omar Bakri is talking about treaties and taxes, etc. He simply cannot conceive of the idea of personhood - that the individual matters and has the right to protection FROM the state (Islam). The concept of due process of law, justice, personal responsibility for ones own actions - these are all alien ideals that do not fit with the Islam. The ummah is a form of supreme tribalism which favors what the West traditionally considers to be vices: greed, sloth, lust, lack of self restraint, lying, coveting that which one's neighbor possesses, etc.
The only responsibility the believer/follower of Islam has is to worship the Dar al Islam and obey the Dar al-Islam in all things. And Dar al-Islam has rules for everything. Muhammad suffered from a severe case of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) and he was a contol freak. He made up rules for everything from personal hygiene (how many rocks to wipe butts with) to what to do when a fly lands in your soup (one wing has bad stuff, one wing has good stuff, so be sure that the fly dips both of its wings before flying off). Islam is a complete mind-controlled zombie freak show.
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
Actually it was my grandfather from my fathers side who came to the uk.
He served in the British army! His family are from the Hindu holy city of Benares!
Post 47 he had to leave due to the massacres of people on both sides. Hindus butchered Muslims and vice versa.
So my grandad moved because of security issues.
The uk at the time were looking for skilled workers and grandad moved.
Like the millions of others around the commonwealth. Hindu, Sikh, Muslims etc.
Why did they move? Security and oppertunity.
He served in the British army! His family are from the Hindu holy city of Benares!
Post 47 he had to leave due to the massacres of people on both sides. Hindus butchered Muslims and vice versa.
So my grandad moved because of security issues.
The uk at the time were looking for skilled workers and grandad moved.
Like the millions of others around the commonwealth. Hindu, Sikh, Muslims etc.
Why did they move? Security and oppertunity.
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
"Why can't you leave your family and friends to live close to Prophet Muhammad the most sacred place on earth for a Muslim?"
Because I have choice, stupid!
Why don't all Hindus live on the banks of the Ganges?
The reason people move is usually security and oppertunity. Whether its kaffir from India going to the USA, or a Muslim from India going to the USA!
Get that through your thick skull!
Because I have choice, stupid!
Why don't all Hindus live on the banks of the Ganges?
The reason people move is usually security and oppertunity. Whether its kaffir from India going to the USA, or a Muslim from India going to the USA!
Get that through your thick skull!
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
"Do not compare yourself to Catholics or Hindus as I said ...And inform us why your father left his country, his family and his friends and preffered to live and raise his children in a kafir land??"
I compared the immigrant to immigrant. Besides you don't tell me what I can and cannot do! Ever heard the expression " take a running jump from the end of mine..."
Bear that in mind the next time you want to go all napoleon.
I compared the immigrant to immigrant. Besides you don't tell me what I can and cannot do! Ever heard the expression " take a running jump from the end of mine..."
Bear that in mind the next time you want to go all napoleon.
written by Abc , May 24, 2012
amazing! An immigrant asking another person whose family were immigrants as to why they moved.
Unless of course mr ram din you are actually typing your tiny pearls of wisdom from India!!!
Thought not!!!
Unless of course mr ram din you are actually typing your tiny pearls of wisdom from India!!!
Thought not!!!
written by have a clue , May 24, 2012
Yes … Yes … we know … mooooslims want to have the cake and it eat it too … who does not know of this bit of information.
Have the intolerance of Islam in a very tolerance Western land … the same tolerance that they [ Muslim ] do NOT have in their own Islamic Land .
mooooooslim opportunist any mixed with some Hypocrisy … and a lot of greed .
Have the intolerance of Islam in a very tolerance Western land … the same tolerance that they [ Muslim ] do NOT have in their own Islamic Land .
mooooooslim opportunist any mixed with some Hypocrisy … and a lot of greed .
written by xyz , May 25, 2012
My friend abc
I am a Muslim and I live in Dubai and I came to Dubai for money. Also I would never wish to live in Saudi Arabia.
Now tell me why your father left his family friends and country to live in the west. Do you wish to leave your family friends and live next to prophet Muhammad grave.
As I said do not compare yourself to others just tell about your wish if you are a bit of honest person. Although honesty is very rare among Muslims.
I am a Muslim and I live in Dubai and I came to Dubai for money. Also I would never wish to live in Saudi Arabia.
Now tell me why your father left his family friends and country to live in the west. Do you wish to leave your family friends and live next to prophet Muhammad grave.
As I said do not compare yourself to others just tell about your wish if you are a bit of honest person. Although honesty is very rare among Muslims.
written by ABC , May 25, 2012
He has blocked my phone ip again. Thanks mr khan.
You live in dubai, good for you. Hope you find the security and oppertunity.
Personally i think its a massive concrete theme park but thats just my opinion.
Clearly you have not read the posts above answering you because you would know my grandfather made the move.
" Do you wish to leave your family friends and live next to prophet Muhammad grave"
That would be an impossible commute to work in the mornings.
My wish, im home.
" honesty is very rare among Muslims" a very broad and bigoted statement to make.
Maybe you should redefine yourself.
Oh befeore this stupidity goes any further: These are the places i would not want to live at
pretty much the whole of continental europe, arabia, asia, america noth, the two poles.
You live in dubai, good for you. Hope you find the security and oppertunity.
Personally i think its a massive concrete theme park but thats just my opinion.
Clearly you have not read the posts above answering you because you would know my grandfather made the move.
" Do you wish to leave your family friends and live next to prophet Muhammad grave"
That would be an impossible commute to work in the mornings.
My wish, im home.
" honesty is very rare among Muslims" a very broad and bigoted statement to make.
Maybe you should redefine yourself.
Oh befeore this stupidity goes any further: These are the places i would not want to live at
pretty much the whole of continental europe, arabia, asia, america noth, the two poles.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 25, 2012
faith in a demented stoned-gawd with his lice-ridden proofeet was passed on to the next generation.
Now while I can understand that ABC 's Granddad might not have read the kooraan (OK only assuming it here)
What astonishes me is that HIS FATHER kept this foolish belief and instilled it in "ABC". I rejected the kooran the first time I FINISHED reading it, because the first attempt only let me to:
Kooraan 4:54 second part: ..... And Hell is sufficient for their burning. Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire. As often as their skin is burnt and singed, roasted through, We shall change it for fresh skin, so that they may go on tasting the torment.
Had I a read it in book form I'd have tossed into the dump, it took some time afterwards to read the whole on line version.
A "radical Muslim" will tell someone that he needs to be killed, "moderate Muslims" will tell the Unbelievers WHY he needs to be killed, but of course will do nothing to prevent the killing, in the end both types of "devout" Muslims have the same goals. You see "ABC" sometimes I despise the "moderate" peaceful Muslims more than the "radicals" because the MAJORITY of Muslims KEEP THEIR MOUTHS shut, and let the radicals hijack their religion. No they know their religion is not being hijacked, they know that the radicals just use a different way to reach the same goal. And ABC I don't give a damn if YOU would not kill a Unbeliever (or maybe you COULD?) you let the others do the killing which in the end should bring the whole world in submission (ISLAM) to allah which MUST be your final goal if you are a TRUE Muslim.
How did I reach this conclusion? Because you refuse to answer the question: Do you want Sharia-Law to be the guiding Law for the Islamic society. So Muslims like you are just as radical as these who "fight with weapons."
Now while I can understand that ABC 's Granddad might not have read the kooraan (OK only assuming it here)
What astonishes me is that HIS FATHER kept this foolish belief and instilled it in "ABC". I rejected the kooran the first time I FINISHED reading it, because the first attempt only let me to:
Kooraan 4:54 second part: ..... And Hell is sufficient for their burning. Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire. As often as their skin is burnt and singed, roasted through, We shall change it for fresh skin, so that they may go on tasting the torment.
Had I a read it in book form I'd have tossed into the dump, it took some time afterwards to read the whole on line version.
A "radical Muslim" will tell someone that he needs to be killed, "moderate Muslims" will tell the Unbelievers WHY he needs to be killed, but of course will do nothing to prevent the killing, in the end both types of "devout" Muslims have the same goals. You see "ABC" sometimes I despise the "moderate" peaceful Muslims more than the "radicals" because the MAJORITY of Muslims KEEP THEIR MOUTHS shut, and let the radicals hijack their religion. No they know their religion is not being hijacked, they know that the radicals just use a different way to reach the same goal. And ABC I don't give a damn if YOU would not kill a Unbeliever (or maybe you COULD?) you let the others do the killing which in the end should bring the whole world in submission (ISLAM) to allah which MUST be your final goal if you are a TRUE Muslim.
How did I reach this conclusion? Because you refuse to answer the question: Do you want Sharia-Law to be the guiding Law for the Islamic society. So Muslims like you are just as radical as these who "fight with weapons."
written by abc , May 25, 2012
Ha ha ha! don't give up your day job
Stick your analysis where the sun don't shine!!
Thanks for the comedy.
Stick your analysis where the sun don't shine!!
Thanks for the comedy.
written by Amboyduke , May 25, 2012
Abc'sd grand-dad moved and yet the foolishness
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 25, 2012
EXCELLENT...!!! Well Done!
1pk4life...you summed up their situation PERFECTLY, and it sure as hell isn't "comedy".
I call it the "soft jihad" silently supporting the "hard (radical) jihad".
They are doing this vile shit all over the world.
And good old abc knows it.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 25, 2012
EXCELLENT...!!! Well Done!
1pk4life...you summed up their situation PERFECTLY, and it sure as hell isn't "comedy".
I call it the "soft jihad" silently supporting the "hard (radical) jihad".
They are doing this vile shit all over the world.
And good old abc knows it.
written by vbv , May 26, 2012
Stupid yourself , if you were born in the west , why do you espouse the cause of such backward fraudulent cult as islam. Some kind of death-wish ,heh?? You want to drive down the west to the level of ignorance, backwardness of muslim nations who have nothing worthwhile to offer to this world other than the intolerant dogmas of a 7th century lunatic who believes that nothing else should prevail but islam and the arabs are the supreme race to be everyone's overlords . Take any islamic country around the world : it is an epitome of violence, mullah-dom , autocratic, or sham banana republics that serve the select elite of mullahs and autocrats , no humanrights, illiteracy , ignorance and backwardness. Infact it is a never-ending tunnel of misery for the common folks who do not know when they will be a victim of bombs, guns of either the state or the fanatical fundamentals . And these madcaps have the temerity to lecture the west about the socalled virtues and divinity of islam ,which is a scandulous sham and barbaric rubbish after living on the doles given by the west. They talk of the failure of the west , the economic downturn and claim that islam has the 'solution' for all this. Damn shitbags cannot even solve any of their own problems and they are an utter failure in every respect and yet have their brazen faces to mouth sham solutions that they themselves would not deign to implement in their own countries. Islam is such a massive fraud and a cover-up to bring down everyone to a low level of existence so that the arabs can dictate terms and rule over everyone ,since the arabs know that they cannot compete in the world of knowledge and economic prosperity. Islam is an absolute bullshit that ever was. And it is the cult for the stupid zombified idiots.
written by 1proudkaffur4life , May 28, 2012
I've asked this question before of "ABC", WHAT are you doing to RESCUE your peaceful religion of Islam from the so-called "radicals?" You let them hijack it, and do nothing about it. While the danish cartoons sparked protests in the UK and elsewhere, no protest against the radicals was EVER organized.
Yet when in Germany PRO-NRW people staged rallies, ALL TYPES of Muslims took part as "one solid community". So the statement the "radicals do not represent all Muslims rings very hollow seen that Muslims will not separate.
Of course they see this as another attempt to "divide and conquer".
Yet when in Germany PRO-NRW people staged rallies, ALL TYPES of Muslims took part as "one solid community". So the statement the "radicals do not represent all Muslims rings very hollow seen that Muslims will not separate.
Of course they see this as another attempt to "divide and conquer".
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Islam is a supremacist, intolerant , hypocritical ideology.
Coupled with Taqqiya( islamic deception) it is formidable.
But as the truth is coming out thick and fast, its days are numbered.