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Fatima Leaves Islam

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...there's too much wrong in Islam to even begin to justify the little good it contains. So Fatimah, her brother and two friends -- all from Pakistan -- have left Islam....


My name is Fatima Muhammad and I'm originally from Pakistan and born into a Muslim family. I was a Muslim for 19 years and went through many episodes of extreme devotion to Islam and sometimes less so. After watching many debates from Christopher Hitchens, Sams Harris etc., and also reading about Islam I gradually began to see a huge vacuum between what reality actually was, and how it was described by religion.

Also, Muhammad's extremely evil nature convinced me that he was just a man, who exploited the Arabs to get his own way. Even if he did everything perfect, there is no way to reconcile his marrying 6-year-old Aisha, and then sexual intimacy when she was 9. It doesn't matter if the Arabs practiced it. A man sent as a perfect example in all matters of life for the entire world till the end of times would never do this. And how could Allah's morality be so warped that he was unable to tell Muhammad that it would be considered inappropriate in later centuries?

Anyway, there's too much wrong in Islam to even begin to justify the good that it does occasionally contain. My brother and two other girls I know have also left Islam and we're all from Pakistan. I wish Pakistan as a country would give up Islam and re-join with India since India is a progressive country, whereas Islam has literally reduced my country to chaos. Peace to everyone (including Jews) :)

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welcome
written by Rationalist , July 27, 2010
Hi Fatima, welcome back to humanity. We Indians will accept you as we all know that your ancestors were forced to accept Islam.
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Absolutely good news!!!
written by Steve , July 27, 2010
Fatima, you don't know how blessed you are to have left Islam. Reality will turn to even more reality as you go forward living a life as a human being without all the superstition, ritual, and garbage that Islam burdens people with. I wish you all the success and happiness in the coming months and years.
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Fatima becomes a human!
written by Jax , July 27, 2010
Welcome tothe HUMAN RACE one where you can fight but not have to kill and THINK for yourself you will be happier really smilies/cheesy.gif

Good Luck in the new "world"
Mirza Ghalib
Welcome to all freed souls
written by mirzaghalib , July 27, 2010

Welcome to all freed souls to the real world different from the mirage of Islam. As an Indian I can realize your pain. While I was working at Saudi Arabia, I met so many Pakistanis, specially the migrated Pakistanis from India. I have no words to explain the way how you love us. Some Pakistanis wept literally in my lap that they are not being the part of India.
Your duty is not finished with this. Try to rescue the fellow souls from this agony.
Only after that, it is possible for our both countries to come closer. Your lives are very precious to us. So whatever you do, do it very carefully, because you are in Islamic country. Remember, that we are all the freedom fighters, to free the entire earth planet from this dangerous global crime syndicate.

Mirza Ghalib
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welcome
written by Neo-ritz , July 27, 2010
I salute to your courage, despite all the brainwashing and propaganda of islamic socities you figured out truth,it is an achievement in itself. Now spread the light of truth.
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Congrates
written by Hinduyoddha , July 27, 2010
Congrates own your victory of darkness. Welcome in the world of light, freedom and happiness. Be the leader of your fellow citizens and help them in getting their own light.
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One Step Closer
written by Freedom Crusader , July 27, 2010
One more Muslim being liberated and we are one step closer to our goal to eradicate the menace of Islam.
It is too obvious to see that Islam is a false religion and not worthy of defending. I am continue to bewildered to see that our leaders today, those from the west, whom pledged to their people and the world to defend freedom with all cost are still unable or unwilling to see that Islam is an evil that has inflicted many damage to the world in the past and will do so in the future if it is not defeated. Worst of all, the president of the only world super power, United State of America, Barrack Obama is praising Islam whenever he has a chance. Shame of him.
Bottom line, politician are not to be trusted, except Geert Wilder. The crusade must be resurrected by the people whom are truthful and passionate about freedom for the world and our future. Evil of Islam must be continously exposed and broadcast until it is defeated.
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Can Pakistan be India again?
written by Syeds Nureen , July 27, 2010
Each time when I see August 14 written anywhere it bothers me.Its the darkest day in human history. So many souls were lost,many more were uprooted just because of one Indian traitor Jinnah.
Its a wishful thinking that India and Pakistan get rid of line of hatrage and reunite.But its highly unlikely in our life time.
Giving up Islam is good,but if you are residing in Pakistan,its a death warrrant for you and your love ones. So please take extra measures. A few day ago two Pakistani Christian brothers were slaughtered by Pakistani Deobandi Muslims under the false accusation of slendering Muhammad.
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as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam
written by as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam , July 27, 2010


as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam and free the world from arab imperialism now.
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as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam
written by as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam , July 27, 2010
as an ex-muslim from infidel india,i say dismantle islam.but dont make the mistake of loving hateful
pakistanis,who may claim to be ex-muslim but maybe suicide bombers.

what proof we have that the pakistanis who claim to be ex-muslim r really ex-muslims ?

maybe they r doing this to penetrate indian or rather human society and then do the
suicide bombs or whatever...i think the noly way a pakistani muslim can become an
ex-muslim is to sing : vande mataram [ hail to the motherland ] IN SANSKRIT.

IF HE CANT SING ENTIRE VANDE MATARAM...atleast just say VANDE MATARAM

maybe they can consider pakistan as their motherland,but as an ex-msulim from india
who has seen how hateful muslims are,and even today indian muslims are just
as hateful as pakis....i will never trust a pakistani ex-muslim till he sings : vande mataram

or even says : vande mataram

by saying vande mataram,2 things r done,he stops being a muslim,and starts
becoming a human and will eventually embrace his infidel indian heritage.

maybe they can join india,or can be in pakistan or return to hinduism
whatever,but after they sing cvande mataram,they can truly call themself
ex-muslim.

i started going to sanskrit classes since last 2 years and now can read
and understand the divine holy language and will say : SANSKRIT is the
most perfect language in the whole world,and only free thinkers infidels can
create this language.the sybntax,grammer and pronounciations and script
is much superior to english urdu etc...

having read some upanishad and some books i really yearn to learn more
abt my true indian heritage.i have cast off arab-slavery-islam in 1992,and now even names
my children indian names.


jai kuffar hind

vande kuffar bharat mataram
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Vande mata rome
written by proudest kafir , July 27, 2010
Now a days the Indians are singing vande mata rome! Welcome to the lrage sea of humanity and we call it as one big family of human beings vasu deva kutumbam.See the beauty of Bharitiya ethos? we are all humans to start with! All the three abrahamic religions are barbaric and divide the humanity in to them v/s us. This always leads to conflict.
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it is anti-india secularism [ xtianity/islam ]
written by it is anti-india secularism [ xtianity/islam ] , July 27, 2010

it is anti-india secularism [ xtianity/islam ] that is destroying india.indians anyone who is not xtian/muslim is actually
under grave threat.xtians and muslims rule india,and all top positions in india are under their control,defense,prime
ministership etc....r with xtians and muslims.

our muslim pm dr.singh says that muslims have first right over india's resources.all humans be damned.

as an ex-muslim i wonder,what has happend to the hindus ? they dotn even make a wimper
of a sound bcoz if they do they r branded " communal " etc....fight my brother hindus
fight,and say " communalism = love iondia " is better than secualrism=hate india.

india is falling deeper and deeper into the trap of xtianity/pigslam.

even i have been threatened many times [ i live in mumbai ] for my
humanist views by my own relatives who see them as anti islam.
the indian muslims are just as hateful of indians as the pakis r.dont
think even for 1 second that they are normal people,given a
chance they will kill indians ie hindus mercilessly.remember 1947,kashmir etc...

so real indians [ hindus and all those who follow earth - natrue based religion ]
pls wake up,before its too late and sing vande kuffar bharat mataram.

infidelism,belief in truth of evolution and more important never letting go of infidel nature
based religion which one shud never let go,and most important to have atelast 2-3 children
to keep infidelism alive and conversions into infidelism [ nature based religion which accepts truth
of evolution is the best way to fight xtianity/islam.

and ask the pakistanis to also help by joining the indians to liberate the arabs also
from islam.


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To Ex- muslim, dimantle islam
written by Neo-ritz , July 27, 2010
You are so right in your attire that if a muslim can sing harmless bangla song vande matram, he becomes trustworhty but forget these issues, it is time to celebrate the liberation of four souls from centuries old slavery. Vande matram
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written by waterwillows , July 27, 2010
The division of humanity is essential. The people will thrive and prosper under their own banner. It is not perfect, but nothing in this world is.

The real bogy-man to humans is the multi-cultural nonsense. It is a falsehood that leads only to death. This state is not natural to mankind and brings about only a tribal society, causing the break-up and cultural death of the country. It is foolish to think it can work.

Let's celebrate the diversity of each culture without trying to impose it on another established culture. Separate, but considerate is very good.

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written by Russ , July 27, 2010
Fatima, welcome to civilization! But as all apostates must, Watch your back.
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Read This
written by Ajay , July 27, 2010
Fatima, Please read Sujit Das's "Unmasking Mohammed" http://www.islam-watch.org/Suj...hammad.pdf
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welcome!
written by Tanstaafl JW , July 27, 2010
No person is free, save they free themselves!
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ISLAM ,devoid of any good ,lacks spirituality,lacks kindness,compassion. ISLAM is hatred &bloodthirsty,killing.
written by ALLA Tappa , July 28, 2010
Where is good in ISLAM? Read analyze. Except the extreme cruel ,hatefilled ,bloodthirsty ideas ( ISLAMIC ideas) of kufr,fatwas,jihad,DHIMMI,JANNATH,Houris, Hoddood, sharia, mushrikeens, beheading,cutting arms,legs,stonning,BURQA , only one thing & on which basis ISLAM claims as religion is prayers. I dont know why ALLA reduced the number of NAMAZ to 5 times-from 50 times when MO met ALLA and talked with him(ALLA ) and influenced ALLA to reduce the number of NAMAZ from 50 to 5 times a day !!!! There itself is a proof that ALLA did not know ( in the first place )so that MO has to recommend to ALLA . other most stupid things ALLA did was that ALLA by his foolishness,perverse vengeful attitude, gave rewards to Moslems - if they -moslems- become martyrs by fighting and killing nonbelievers,kufrs , by sending them to jannath - providing 72 houris young virgins with firm breasts , with permanent erection of penis , 27 prepubescent boys !!!!, endless supply of wine, water flowing under their beds !!! , and grapes,fruits . Here one must note that Moslems claim that ISLAM do not allow drinking and sex - like in western countries - this is their constant attack on western countries. Now Moslems must know that ALLA is such stupid and ignorant ,cruel- as he has always been- If wine and sex - as they are sins -is not permissible in this life - then how can it become permissible and infact gave as reward by ALLA himself in the JANNATH !!!!! This proves ALLA do not know . ALLA also do not know that he recommends Moslems - to undergo circumscission (both male,female ) . Why did ALLA allowed Moslems to be born with skin - in the first place ? Here in again ALLA goofed . .. Even in prayers - Moslems constantly curse nonmoslems or kufrs,infidels, infidel countries - with death !!!! One can go on writting like this. What is spirituality? ISLAM /QQURRAN /ALLA / MO has no explanation . IN ISLAM , spirituality means kill nonmoslems ,treat them inferior,separate humans,tortur or torment nonmoslems ,discriminate against nonmoslems,against women, against other sects of ISLAM - this is all true in ISLAMIC spirituality...............It is estimated that about 80 million ( BIll WARNER who researched ,studied ISLAM in INDIA ) HINDUS were butchered by Moslems during ISLAMIC rule in INDIA,thousands of temples were razed ,women raped. Every true ISLAMIC follower is a potential rapist , as he believes in MO /ALLA . During the 1400 yrs of ISLAM - the earth was burdened with so much sin and killing by Moslems - now the sacred earth ( for HINDUS ) is no more able to witness or carry this evil Of ISLAM any more .
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to : neo-ritz...muslims ex-muslims shud recognise evolution also...pls read carefully
written by to : neo-ritz...muslims ex-muslims shud recognise evolution also...pls read carefully , July 28, 2010
to : neo-ritz...muslims ex-muslims shud recognise evolution also...pls read carefully.

once someone believes in the proven fact of evolution,he will never ever go back
slavery=islam.if he does it only means he shut down his/her brain again.

so just singing : vande kuffar bharat mataram - is one of the things.

for a muslim to be sunni saying kalima namaz etc is essential.

same way for an ex-muslim,saying there is no god/allah bcoz
man is not created from mud/dirt,but evoled by mother nature
[ the true god if u want to believe ] etc and singing vande
bharat mataram is essential.saying all this is essnetial to remove
the fear of imaginary allah/muhamed.these r some of the things
or rituals one needs to do to de-islamise,and its successful,bcoz
i myself did it for myself,and showed to many muslims who
r now with ex-muslims.accepting truth abt evolution and loving
the country and not bowing to stone in desert is one of the
best and fastest ways to to leave islam and become human being.

islam is based on the primise that imaginary allah created man from mud/dirt
[ chapter 2 - the cow ] and thus one needs to bow to imaginary alah.

when we accept the truth of evolution we accept the fact that imaginary jehova-alla
is not a god,nor a deity but imaginary being created by jews-christians-muslims,and
that all religions r man created and thus one can be one's won buddha or
truthseeker or prophet.

this is essential so that the hate based muhamed is deglamourised,and made into
a mundane person not worthy of prophethood etc....

and finally : vande mataram is written by a bangla writer but is in sanskrit.

if u r an indian,pls learn this great language and help it to survive and
stop its decline.and help to spread truth of evolution and destroying
the hate created by religions,castes etc...so pls spread
the message and help all.

jai kuffar hind

vande kuffar bharat mataram




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Congratulations!
written by M R , July 28, 2010
Congratulations to the four of you!

Best regards

M R

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written by vbv , July 28, 2010
Muslims claim that they are pure monotheists . This is false: because they venerate Muhamamad the fake prophet and founder of this barbaric arab cult more than their Allah.You criticise Allah you may not be murdered for it ,but you say anything against this maniac Muhamad you will definitely be murdered or maybe atleast lose a limb or two. So there are two power centres in this mad cult of islam : one Muhamad and another his imaginery side-kick Allah. Further, Muhamad only succeeded in establishing his family deity as the only and supreme "god" ,while destroying all other idols except one that represented this Allah in the form of a black stone that is still venerated in the building called 'Kaaba' at the centre of the mosque at Mecca. So all this crap against 'idol' worship is sheer hypocrisy. It is just a schemingly evil plan to destroy all other beliefs and impose the belief of this madcap,self-appointed 'prophet' through the pre-islamic family deity of Muhamad ibn Abdallah as the sole deity. This fraud and madcap, psychopath and self-appointed 'prophet' of thsi evil cult has succeeded in brainwashing generations of these muslims through lies,baltant lies,threats and terror. Against this background , it is certainly heartening to see someone coming out of this cult like the author of this short write-up ,Fatima. Bravo,well-done and may your tribe increase that many of your fellow-human-beings see the light at the end of the tunnel just like you.
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Most all the posts are positive
written by duh- swami , July 28, 2010
Good luck Fatima and stay safe...
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Re: Ex- muslim
written by Neo-ritz , July 28, 2010
thank you for your elaborate reply, yes you are right what so ever we have we owe to the mother nature, and one day will return to the nature again and there is no harm in expressing one's gratitude towards nature. Thank you i think i got new perspective for this beautiful song.
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Fatima
written by fineliving56 , July 28, 2010
Welcome to the land of the sane,land of true humanity[hopefully]and by leaving Islam you joined thousands of Muslims who are leaving if not by speaking out but deeb in their hearts, they keep it for their own safety and to avoiding clashing with family members. I left islam and I spoke out about it because I had to, I could not keep quite any more but I paid for it and I am going to keep paying for the rest of my live. It is sad but I do not regret it one bet……..it seems nothing easy in this live of ours is worth having …... Good luck Fatima
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Kashmir ?
written by Jeba , July 28, 2010
Recently I heard from a ex-muslim that quite a number muslims in Kashmir are converting to Christianity.
It is a great thing to happen.
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Islam's effect on Pakistan
written by Scrutator , July 28, 2010
Comments on Islam and Pakistan by V.S. Naipaul (Sir Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul), the finest writer of English today and a Nobel Prize winner:

Islam, Naipaul observed, had both enslaved and attempted to wipe out other cultures."It has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'."
Sir Vidia claimed what he called "this abolition of the self demanded by Muslims was worse than the similar colonial abolition of identity. It is much, much worse in fact... You cannot just say you came out of nothing."

He observed that Pakistan was the living proof of the damage Islam could wreak.

"The story of Pakistan is a terror story actually. It started with a poet who thought that Muslims were so highly evolved that they should have a special place in India for themselves.
"This wish to sift countries of unnecessary and irrelevant populations is terrible and this is exactly what happened in Pakistan."
(from The Guardian, Thursday 4 October 2001)


Naipaul quotes Salman, a well known Pakistani journalist:
"We have nearly all, subcontinental Muslims, invented Arab ancestors for ourselves. Most of us are Sayeds, descendants of Mohammed through his daughter Fatima and cousin and son-in-law Ali. There are others--like my family--who have invented a man called Salim al-Rai. And yet others who have invented a man called Qutub Shah. Everybody has got an ancestor who came from Arabia or Central Asia. I am convinced my ancestors would have been medium to low-caste Hindus, and despite their conversion they would not have been in the mainstream of Muslims.

Naipaul has written, “Islam is in its origin an Arab religion. Everyone not an Arab who is a Muslim is a convert. Islam is not simply a matter of conscience or private belief. It makes imperial demands. A convert’s worldview alters. His holy places are in Arab lands. His sacred language is Arabic. His idea of history alters. He rejects his own: he becomes, whether he likes it or not, a part of the Arab story. The convert has to turn away from everything that is his.
The disturbance for societies is immense and even after a thousand years can remain unresolved; the turning away has to be done again and again. People develop fantasies about who and what they are; and in the Islam of converted countries there is an element of neurosis and nihilism. These countries can be easily set on the boil”.
Part of this neurosis of the convert is that he always has to prove himself. He has to be more royalist than the king, as the French say.


Naipaul is the author of many books, among them two eminently readable books on non-Arab Islamic countries: "Among The Believers" and "Beyond Belief: Islamic Excursions Among The Converted Peoples"
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2 paisas from Pakistan
written by Abdullah , July 29, 2010
Putting the blame of all of Pakistan's problems on Islam is just giving Islam way too much credit, and I say so as a Pakistani Atheist. Pakistan's primary problem is feudalism; Islam only helps to complicate the issue a fair bit farther. As for all the silly nationalism above (how is fellating a smelly politician much better than fellating an invisible deity? The point is to break the leash altogether, not to merely replace the hand that pulls it), I'm sure that there are at least some Indians somewhere in India, who read the above and felt embarrassed. If I was an Indian, I certainly would be.
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what is wrong in praying an invisible deity
written by what , July 29, 2010

Abdullah,
I am an Indian. I cannot agree with what you are saying. What is wrong when a Hindu believes and offers his/her prayers to a God(invisible deity as you said). As long as it boosts their confidence and put them in right path that should be fine. From my understanding the concept of God helps the people to get rid of their fears, complexes and have a positive/proactive mentality.

In our(yours too) culture there are several gods, monkey faced, elephant faced and so on. You will never see a Hindu who believes in these Gods roam on streets with monkey or elephant mask everyday. They simply believe in QUALITIES of these Gods and they move on with their lives. On the other hand a Muslim who claim that Islam does not permit idolatry but exactly mimics the Muhammad in every aspect, the way they dress, grow beards, pray. It is called HYPOCRICY. And there is no need to say tolerance of Islam/Muslims towards other religions.

My point is when they get rid of Islam, it should not take much time to improve their lives. 20th century India (even many villages in current day) was completely dominated by feudalism. Things changed a lot since and still changing. Nothing positive can happen as long as a country is in the iron clad of Islam.

In my opinion any person is better than a practicing Muslim.

FYI I am not a religious person. I stopped worshipping Idols since few years.
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To ABDULLAH & What - are you knowing or knowledgeble in everything ?
written by ALLA Tappa , July 30, 2010
An Ex.communist writing here : First to ABDULLAH : From your name & from your environment you are highly unlikely to be objective or open minded or completely knowledgeable. Becoz ISLAM od not allow you to think any thing.U are like captive,prisoner for life.U r name intriguing !!! If you have good answers or know exactly what U are writing then come out with clarity. U wrote few statements which does not mean anything. For example - do you know that atheists have strong presence in INDIA & that they run news papers,annual conferences in INDIA , that they have strong net work & connections with other atheists in the world. Birth place of atheism is INDIA (CHARVAKA in the ancient times & modern times too ). This is all possible becoz that SANATANA DHARMA is open to criticism,freedom,open ideas,freedom of thought,expression,democracy,peace ,equality etc. BY the way all these values are absent in ISLAM. The values the principles, the philosophy, the ethos, peace,love,equality ,service,kindness,compassion are integral part of SANATANA DHARMA - present day SO CALLED HINDU DHARMA (OM SANTHI SANTHI SANTHI ).born in peace. NO nationalism but only universalism in SANATAN DHARMA . SANATAN DHARMA is the most secular on this earth.Know this. One must be clear the purpose of religion is spiritual- upliftment ,enlightenment ,liberation which SANATAN DHARMA doest it splendidly if you understood the philosophy properly.It is not a dogma (Very undogmatic) (not totalitarian ,fascism like ISLAM, also not intolerant like ISLAM , not an organized & imposing religion like ISLAM/CHRISTIANITY). EQUALITY - Not only every creature is devine in SANATANA DHARMA philosophy - spirituality of the highest order known to mankind -ever- woman in many forms is worshipped - only in SANATANA DHARMA.NO true INDIAN should be embarrassed as you write with ignorance, but must be with utmost confidence - proclaime to the world - about the nobility,greatness,universality,with oneness philosophy of SANATAN DHARMA ,infused with kindness,compassion,service ,love. With the invasions from the savage,barbaric ISLAM, from CHRISTIANITY - 1000 yrs - SANATANA DHARMA collapsed & was in shambles. Fortunately now, with the advent of internet,revolution in communication -information age , there is a silent revolution going on.People are learning truth,facts. It is time for ISLAM to be eradicated, christianity to be consigned to the ash heap of history, ignorance, arrogance,evil nature of atheism must be exposed and contained . If any one wants peace,love,universality,oneness of humanity, enlightenment,liberation - it is the path of light which the humanity has inherited thousands of years back in that sacred,noble land what we call today as INDIA - given by SANATAN DHARMA .It is all there. DISCOVER it.
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It is called science of spirituality
written by ALLA Tappa , July 30, 2010
TO ABDULLA : Read,think,analyze with your intellignce .acquire knowledge.U cclaim to be an atheist ?If it is true , why are you invisible. Can you come out in a PAKISTANI street and proclaim that U are an atheist , you dont believe in ISLAM /MO/ ALLA ? But sincerely we want you to be a good human being with kindness,compassion,with love & reverence,service to all creatures (!!!!),including animals,plants,water ,air,earth,sun ,tolerant,accepting all to be equal,nonviolent,vegetarianism etc. (These are core values of SANATAN DHARMA !!! by the way ). It is all universalism,oneness of human family. One question to you .Who are you ? U dont have answer or very narrow minded one filled with darkness. The answer is scientific. It erases all artificial,imaginary man made limits set by ISLAM/Christianity .
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Welcome Back
written by Richy , August 02, 2010
Hey Fatima. Well done. Your though provoking words made me really happy for you. Your people were forced into Islam at knife point so it is wonderful you are taking back your right to be a woam with a mind.
We love you.
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Mr
written by Jhon , August 03, 2010
u r deceiving ignorant people.
also list the people who r entering Islam by research so that every thing be clear.
i advise people to read about Islam from reliable sources, u will explore the truth.
I have seen this site i found nothing except ignorance. they r using material from islamic books with their own
description, nothing solid here u will soon explore just go to reliable and trusted sites.
Mirza Ghalib
PLEASE JOHN...
written by mirzaghalib , August 03, 2010
PLEASE JOHN….
For God sake (by the way I don’t believe in any god), PLEASE READ.

1/ Please read the Quranic translation in your mother tongue once in your life time(if you are Non-Arab).
2/ Read Sahih Al-Bukhari, the second authentic book of muslims after the Quran.
3/ Read the authentic biography of Muhammad. (Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishq)

These are the most authentic books of Muslims. Read it ( I repeat READ IT ) by yourself, instead of hearing to the lectures of the mullahs. Because Muhammad instructed them to lie, in order to protect his Islam.

Mirza Ghalib

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2 Fatima
written by Machmoed , August 03, 2010
Fatima,

If you want to believe in God/Allah or whatever, there is no harm in that. The only religion God/Allah or whatever made is nature. Please do not believe God/Allah etc has anything to do with religions. Religions may be inspired but it still doesn’t make a religion devine or from the source. Humankind is not good or bad…it’s both…that makes us human…but what’s wrong or good is not a universal law. We humans make that choice or decision together and that’s why democratic systems are better on the long term then other systems known to the world.
During the roman empire they used to throw slaves in the arena to fight lions…a wide spread custom for that time and many people enjoyed to watch people get eaten or butchered, but it would be unacceptable for our time, now would it?
How come God/Allah think it’s ok to have slaves etc.? Because the people of that time thought it was ok. I’m sure that if God/Allah would sent a scripture now, he would condemn slavery…Why? Because God=we.

Ever heard of Hadith Qudsi? What does it mean and how can it be? I always thought only quran is devine but to my surprisement hadith Qudsi is also devine.

Believing in God/Allah does not mean you’re a muslim/Christian/jew/hindu etc etc etc. They are not the same but people/believers of institutes do their best to fool people on this one.
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To Mr. Jhon- But you are a TAQIYYA player ,heartless,cruel,without conscience and honesty,truthfulness.
written by ALLA Tappa , August 04, 2010
Oye - Jhon - you are a true hard core moslem with full of ill will ,hostility,animosity ,hatred for nonmoslems named by your pedo mo - as kufrs,infidels and kafirs. You have the full freedom,opportunity to write or tell us why and where is the deception by this web site or forum users here . Tell us where are the reliable sources. What research did you do ? what kind of ignorance is here on this site ? The sources used to criticize ISLAM & exposing the cruel,evil,hateful nature of ISLAM here - are QQURRAN,SIRA, HADITHS, ISLAMIC history and the ISLAMIC societies and the present day ISLAMIC regimes , their rules and laws ,social structure. >>>>> But first of all do you understand that ISLAM is copied from christianity,judaism and preislamic arab folklore ? Nothing in ISLAM is original except the demonic ideas ,hatred,supremacism imposed by MO / ALLA/ ISLAM -- like fatwasm sharia,hoddoed lawsjihad, dhimmitude,kufrs,infidels, jannath with 72 houris given as reward by ALLA to mujahideens for killing ,fighting nonmoslems,slavery,booty,rape, mushriks &numerous other inhuman ideas of deception,terror,cruelty sanctioned by ISLAMIC GOD ALLA. can you tell us- all this is untrue ? with clear and pure conscience? Once you are with pure conscience,good heart, wants to lead a good nonviolent, loving,caring life, with noble values like equality, equal respect, freedom to all, democracy,peace, kindness, compassion , equality of all human beings - then it will dawn on you that ISLAM is not for you- because ISLAM is diametrically opposite of all these highest human values . If you want to lead a life as good,honest,truthful,pious, good human being ,respecting all humans then you will find immediately that ISLAM is not for you. ISLAM is for demons - not for good human beings.
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She Got Lost....................
written by Fountain , August 16, 2010
If She exist. (Because I know these people like Ali Sina they create Fake stories) She went to Astray. She lost and she took the Wrong path. Fatima If She exist did not galnce for Good but she has been hijacked by the Devil (we seek protection from ALLAH).

I will not ask her anything because I know that She got lost........Lost in the Darkness and taken the cracked way to HELL.

ooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppppppssssssssss
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written by vixi , August 17, 2010
Fatima should have left Pakistan rather than Islam. People there will be barbaric whatever religion they are.
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written by vixi , August 18, 2010
Ali Sina is the exactly an example of why a native book should not fall into the hands of foreighners who no matter what will never know more than the natves.

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