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Killing all Humanity: How Obama Misinterprets Quran 5:32 and Passes a Noble Jewish Teaching as Islamic

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“The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.” So said Obama is his speech at Cairo on June 4, 2009, intended to the Muslim world.

This quote is taken from verse 5:32 of the "Holy Koran". Let us first quote the full verse and see what it says (Yusuf Ali translation):

“[005:032]  On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”

The first thing to note is that, the command (allegedly of Allah) applies to the “Children of Israel” (i.e. Jews). It does not apply to Muslims. Probably, that is why you find a lot of killings of innocent civilians by extremist Muslims today. The extremist Muslims read nothing but the Koran and know their stuff better than the moderate Muslims and non-Muslims who don’t read the Quran.

Secondly, the verse does not use the word “innocent” anywhere, in any translation, which you can see at this link from Islamist site.

Thirdly, a person can be slain for (i) murder or (ii) for spreading mischief in the land (fasad). Now what is spreading mischief in the land (fasad)? The next verse 5:33 says:

The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

Let us see from other ayats, what this “spreading mischief” means:

Quran 7:103: Then after them We sent Moses with Our signs to Pharaoh and his chiefs, but they wrongfully rejected them: So see what was the end of those who made mischief(Mufisdoon).[So rejecting prophet /not  converting to Islam is “mischief” and non-Muslims can be put to death]

Quran 8:73: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [So, again unbelievers are mischief-makers-Providing Muslims equal citizenship rights and all rights -this would make us “mischief makers”]

Now let us see some of the renowned Tafsirs, how they define “mischief”:

“Because of that, which Cain did, We decreed for the Children of Israel that whoever slays a soul for other than a soul, slain, or for, other than, corruption, committed, in the land, in the way of unbelief, fornication or waylaying and the like, it shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and whoever saves the life of one, by refraining from slaying, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind — Ibn ‘Abbās said [that the above is meant] in the sense of violating and protecting its [a soul’s] sanctity [respectively]. Our messengers have already come to them, that is, to the Children of Israel, with clear proofs, miracles, but after that many of them still commit excesses in the land, overstepping the bounds through disbelief, killing and the like.” [Tafsir Al Jalalyn]

“…Sa’id bin Jubayr said, "He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.'' In addition, Ibn Jurayj said that Al-A`raj said that Mujahid commented on the Ayah, (it would be as if he killed all mankind) "He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same.'' Ibn Jurayj said that Mujahid said that the Ayah, (and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) means, "He who does not kill anyone, then the lives of people are safe from him.'' [Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir]

Thus, examination of the full ayat 5:32 and its comparison with other ayats and Tafsir, we find that Obama is guilty of misquoting or partially quoting the verse from Holy Quran, to give it a wrong meaning from what it true means. According to the Tafsirs, this ayat protects only a Muslim from being killed by another (today even this is violated by Muslims). It offers no protection to non-Muslims who are fair game to the Muslims.

President Obama is either misled or his intention is to mislead non-Muslims, while placating his Muslim audience.

Further, this verse is copied from a Jewish book Mishnah Sanhedrin, not from the Torah as mistakenly thought Muhammad (Allah), I will deal below.

Obama passes on noble Jewish Talmudic teaching as Islamic

Now I will examine the full story behind that verse. Recall that the verse commenced with “On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel”. Now the questions are:

On what account?

Was it really ordained for the Children of Israel by God? Was it there in the Torah?

For this, we need to examine verses 5.27-5.31 of the Quran, which narrate the story of two sons of Adam:

Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to God): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "God doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous. If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. For me, I intend to let thee draw on thyself my sin as well as thine, for thou wilt be among the companions of the fire, and that is the reward of those who do wrong. The (selfish) soul of the other led him to the murder of his brother: he murdered him, and became (himself) one of the lost ones. Then God sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. "Woe is me!" said he; "Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?" then he became full of regrets.

“Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to God): It was accepted from one, but not from the other”… Nothing is very clear in these verses unless we refer the Torah, where the story of Abel and Cain, the sons of Adam, is narrated. Now Quran does not even contain the names of the two sons of Adam and their sacrifices to God. So what is the purpose of repeating the incomplete story in the Quran, when the complete one is already narrated in the Torah as this:

...And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto HaShem. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And HaShem had respect unto Abel and to his offering; but unto Cain and to his offering He had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

The rejection of Cain’s offering made him jealous and he killed Abel. Now what has this got to do with verse 5.32? Only one individual was murdered. There was no intent/action on part of Cain to commit mass murders. Secondly, this verse 5.32 said to be ordained for Jews is not found in Torah at all. It is found in Talmud. Let us see what Talmud says in Mishnah Sanhedrin:

You may also be aware of the fact that there is no similarity between civil and criminal cases. In civil cases one may repay the money damage and he is atoned; but in criminal cases the blood of the person executed, and of his descendants to the end of all generations, clings to the originator of his execution. So do we find in the case of Cain, who slew his brother. It reads [Gen. iv. 10]: "The voice of the 'bloods' of thy brother are crying unto me from the ground." It does not read "blood," but "bloods," which means his blood and the blood of his descendants. [According to others it reads "bloods" in the plural, because his blood was scattered all over the trees and stones.] Therefore the man was created singly, to teach that he who destroys one soul of a human being, the Scripture considers him as if he should destroy a whole world, and him who saves one soul of Israel, the Scripture considers him as if he should save a whole world. And also because of peace among creatures, so that one should not say: My grandfather was greater than yours; and also that the heretic shall not say: There are many creators in heaven; and also to proclaim the glory of the Holy One, blessed be He. For a human being stamps many coins with one stamp, and all of them are alike; but the King of the kings of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, has stamped every man with the stamp of Adam the First, and nevertheless not one of them is like the other. Therefore every man may say: The world was created for my sake, hence I must be upright, just, etc.

Thus, the verse—“he who destroys one soul of a human being, the Scripture considers him as if he should destroy a whole world, and him who saves one soul of Israel, the Scripture considers him as if he should save a whole world”—is not there in the sacred Torah. Actually, it was the commentary or interpretation of Jewish scholars/Rabbis of the Torah. The above commentary explains Genesis 4:10 and also the spiritual significance of the Adam and Eve story. It explains why only one Adam was created and not multiple of Adams. Muhammad, from his patchy knowledge, failed to figure out that this was a commentary on Genesis 4.10 and the significance of the creation of Adam story, and mistook it to be a revealed text. He distorted the sublime teachings of Talmud to this:

On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

In fact, many Muslims do not quote the full text of verse 5.32, because it is a badly messed up and distorted version of the original from the Talmud, and that quoting the full verse will cause them embarrassment. In this context, it is worth examining Maulana Maududi’s comments:

It is a pity that the precious words which embody God's ordinance are to be found nowhere in the Bible today. The Talmud, however, does mention this subject…… The Talmud also mentions that in trials for murder, the Israelite judges used to address the witnesses as follows: Whoever kills one person, merits punishment as if he had slain all the men in the world.

Maududi acknowledges that the verse 5.32, said to be revealed by God to the Jews, are not there in Torah but in the Talmud. But he cleverly conceals the full context, in which these words are found in the Talmud.

Conclusion

Muhammad, aka Allah, erroneously mistook Quran 5:32 to be a revealed verse of the Torah. He didn’t know that it was in the Talmud and couldn’t figure out how “Whoever kills one person, merits punishment as if he had slain all the men in the world” was connected to the Abel and Cain story.

And President Obama, out of his ignorance or deception, obviously passed on the noble Jewish teaching as Islamic to placate Muslims.

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SORRY !!
written by Iqbal Halani , October 10, 2009
Sorry but at this rate you will end being being gassed (or equivalent, even in America) again and once again the GOD will not intervene until the sins like your above spin are paid off !!
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Nope, wrong God.
written by A_Nonny_Mouse , November 06, 2009
Nope, sorry, Iqbal.

The short version: Islam's Allah is not the God of Abraham. Not the true God, the God whose Bible is the foundation of the Judeo-Christian West. Our God is the creator; he tells us he created mankind in his own image and the divine spark dwells within all of us. He calls his people to forgive and live in harmony.

Allah is a destroyer. He calls HIS believers to smite, destroy and kill those who don't submit to his teachings. He has one set of rules for how "believers" should be treated; another set for unbelievers. His prophet Mohammad was a thug who had people whacked for disrespecting him. Mohammad robbed the caravans of his own tribe, yet is considered the perfect man. He couldn't tell the difference between a "revelation from Allah" and the words of Satan (read up on the famous "Satanic verses"). If he didn't know evil when he heard it, how is he a prophet of the true God? He's not. Period. He's a prophet of The Other Side. Those who follow the Great Deceiver are themselves deceived. They believe that evil begets good, lying leads to truth, and terror results in paradise.
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You Got it wrong
written by Ashar Rasul , November 07, 2009
Well first of all I would like to clear one thing out, Quran is for everyone, Muslim or not, believer or Atheist, and this verse applies to everyone.
What you referring to as extremist Muslims are not Muslims, they are just some screwed up SOBs which USA created to win against Russia back in 80's. They don't care who they kill, me and my people are suffering from them, and we are Muslims, so they kill everyone they see fit to kill, don't bring Islam into it.
The verse is simple, one who kills an innocent human, kills all human kind....
I wish, hope and pray that you find guidance, but posting things like this hurts people. It only creates more hatred among humans. Its high time that we realize, its the devil that is our enemy not ourselves.
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Islam
written by Mohammed , December 27, 2009
Non-Muslims should know that Islam is based on three things: The belief in One God, service to humanity, and the teachings of mercy, compassion, and justice.

The Holy Qur'an teaches that “Whoever kills an innocent, is as if he has killed all humankind; and if he saves a human life, it is as if he has saved the lives of all humankind (Qur'an 5:32)'. "


The Qur'an urges us to protect the sanctity of human life. Killing innocent humans, the essence of terrorism, is equated with murdering all of humanity. This is powerful incentive to fight against terrorism."
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written by Mohammed , December 27, 2009
Islam in the final religon for mankind and will continue to spread.
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Quran: History and Law
written by Khan. , May 13, 2010
Firstly, you didnt analyse the whole quote. it says that if that person is not commiting sin 'killing them is like kill the whole of mankind'. some how you magically missed out that part of the ayah. hey? Also you must understand that the quran consists of two this, history and law. Some of the ayaats are the laws that we muslims must follow and the other accounts are history! if you see ayats such a 'kill the disbelievers' it applies to the time when there were wars going on in saudi arabia! people who mis interpet this and take it to extremist levels are obviously not muslim smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by ziaulislam , July 19, 2010
problem is we dont take things in context whateer u said is ompletely wrong the extremist are not scholars in fact most o them have no info on religions their decision are completly wrong with respect to fiqah so saying"extremist read quran...they may read it but understand i dont think so...."
real representative are the ULAmma which follow it completly and when they talk about wrong doings of these extremist they are killed....here quran explain are historical context and what obama said wasnt wrong their are numerous palces were quran has repeated this it has given exceptions too...thats why obama used the word innoent
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Did you people actually read this page?
written by Danjojo , October 04, 2010
If Muhammad/Allah did not know the difference between a Rabbi discussing scripture a few hundred years before Muhammad came along and actual Scripture - what makes you think any of the words, commands, threats in the Quran are actually from the Supreme Intelligence/Creator GOD?

That is a very human mistake, and there are several of them in the Quran. Open your mind and your heart and look at the Quran and hadith without the believer-sunglasses on for a day or two. There is a barrier you have to break through to be able to see it like the average sane person would. your mind wants to protect itself from the tearing away of beliefs you hold dear.

It is plagiarism and a rather vulgar, mundane misuse of other people's teachings and traditions. Add it together with a few "unique" revelations supposedly from GOD allowing Muhammad very conveniently primitive, vulgar things he wanted to do - always on time for that new wife or the slaying of unbelievers.
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Quran came for whole of humanity.
written by RAHKLB , October 24, 2010
What so ever written in Quran applies on whole of humanity not on any one nation or sect.
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truehearts unite
written by trueheart , November 05, 2010
The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammed (SAW) to serve as a 'reminder' of God's message to Mankind as God Himself says in the Quran. Over time the earlier messages in the form of the Torah and Injeel(Bible) had been forotten, manipulated , distorted by mankind , such is human nature. So it should not suprise anyone , that there are bound to be some similarities between the earlier books and God's final revelation to Mankind i.e the Quran. And God has promised that it will be protected from any corruption by mankind , which is why not a single word has been changed from the original text to the present day. God has even challenged man to produce a single verse equal to it in majesty , meaning and still remaining in concordence with the rest of the Quran. That has to my knowledge never been met. To a level a charge of plagiarism is just ignorance and prejudice on display. The Quran was and is not an exclusive message for the Arabs , or the 'Muslims' -it was and is for all of Mankind -it makes that abundantly plain . It clearly talks of the 'Children of Israel' in a historical context and addresses them specifically in relation to certain events and also perhaps because they were amongst those who committed gross transgressions then and still continue to do so to the present day.
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Increasing trueheart's knowledge
written by Barney Resson , December 05, 2010
God has even challenged man to produce a single verse equal to it in majesty , meaning and still remaining in concordence with the rest of the Quran. That has to my knowledge never been met.
Well "trueheart" I have good news for you, the Koran *has* been reproduced and bettered.
Read the True Furqan and you will see the good news for humanity there.
I hope it will open your eyes.


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Rationalizations
written by Reality , March 13, 2011
The Quran was written by a Jew, because the "prophet" was an illiterate, and is nothing more then a series of rationalizations for ill behavior that rewrite Jewish and Christian scripture to support those rationalizations.

The "prophet" married a widow for security so he didn't have to work, pirated caravans, slaughtered the Jews that sheltered him and finally embraced the very idols worshiped by the Meccans that rejected his delusions of grandeur. The Satanic Verses were simply a step too far in his self indulgence.

The historical record is one of slaughter right up to and including the present day. To claim the Quran contains messages of "love" is exposed as a fraud by the failure of the claimant to be able to cite a single passage.
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I like it
written by ritasmarts , March 26, 2011
I am glad to read your article, very interesting. Hope there have more good article published. Hope to have time to look around a little more my website oh.boss ties
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Islam does Teach killing of innocents is indeed a grave sin!...but lecture it to America the killing machine of the 21st century!!
written by Muslimah! , April 30, 2011
'thanks Islam' i agree!

"Non-Muslims should know that Islam is based on three things: The belief in One God, service to humanity, and the teachings of mercy, compassion, and justice".

and for Gods Sake don't try to analyse a verse from the Qur'an when you are not neither a scholar of Qur'an nor a believer who follows it seeking an understanding!..

the Quote Obama used is correct according to the correct and widely accepted interpretation of the verse by the scholars of the Qur'an! so don’t try to analyse what you're ignorant of!!, cause just like only Einstein’s calculate with
E= MC2's only scholars can interpret the Qur'an with knowledge and evidence!!

and YES! The Holy Qur'an teaches that the killing of innocents is a grave sin!!! and hey we didn't get it from the Jews! rather the Lord who has revealed it to them revealed it to us cause the knowledge is not limited to them only!!

“Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.(Qur'an 5:32)'. "

**another baseless claim! who said it only applies to the Jews??! again you are not a scholar of Qur'an to interpret what its intended for or meant to mean!!...rather many scholars quote the verse to remind us of how sacred this human soul is![innocent] when it did not commit any crime to deserve the punishment!
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Well put
written by Joe , May 20, 2011
well put. I saw the same misquote from don cheadle in the movie "traitor"

I find it telling that
1) muslims attempting to show how "true islam" is peaceful often must resort to misquoting this verse because they couldn't find an actual verse in the koran to show that it is peaceful.

2) what is written in the koran actually pretty much says "it's ok to kill disbelievers" (when you look up what mischief is defined as), which is ironic for the number 1 verse that is quoted to show how peaceful islam is.

3) even your commentators on this page are again misquoting 5:32 back to you, but only as evidence that your arguments are way over their heads.

Future commentators, if you want to quote a version of 5:32, you might want to read the article.

5:32 says "we ordained for the children of israel"
ask yourself: "who are the children of israel?
5:32 also says "unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief/corruption in the land"
ask yourself: "what is mischief?"
ANSWERED:
Abu Ja`far said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah said that Allah's statement:
And when it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the earth,'', means, "Do not commit acts of disobedience on the earth. Their mischief is disobeying Allah, because whoever disobeys Allah on the earth, or commands that Allah be disobeyed, he has committed mischief on the earth.
Ar-Rabi` bin Anas and Qatadah said similarly.

So there you have it
Abu Ja`far
Ar-Rabi` bin Anas
Abu Al-`Aliyah
and Qatadah agree.

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written by ISLAM IS PEACE , October 07, 2011
§7: "Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Qur’an, 5:32)


THAT IS THE REAL VERSE!
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written by Dilbar , December 19, 2011
That is well known trait of some ignorant Jews, "take anything that is clearly stated(message of God) and twist it around." That is why so many Messengers were sent to people of Israel. Otherwise, why would God send messengers to people who already follow him sincerely. Once again you have proved that you are one of them by this article of yours!! For your information, Muslims believe in God of Adam a.s., and long line of messengers, including Abraham a.s., Yaqub a.s., Yusuf a.s., Moses a.s., Jesus a.s. that ends with Muhammad saw. Muslims don't differentiate between any of God's messengers. They are all respected! That is why we add 'peace be upon' every time we mention any messenger's name. God is the only one who can make judgement between them. You say so boldly Koran is fabricated, can you prove any statement in Koran, which is wrong or be proven otherwise? Take a good look at how God describes how infants are formed, or secrets of this world. Try to prove any of those statements are wrong. See you in Hereafter, better prepare to account for all the deeds we commit in this life! Since God is Merciful to humankind, but just judge and swift at reckoning. Oops, you are a Jew, you should be forgiven no matter how big ur sin is, ^^
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u sud be banned
written by Believer , December 19, 2011
telling the truth about moslem?? seriously???

reader, if you are here to know more about islam, please go learn to really compatible n knowledgeable people.
this kinda website i am afraid has different intention than telling the truth about islam as it claims.

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