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Citizen Times Interviews Ali Sina on “Muhammad the Movie”

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Dr. Ali Sina’s proposed film on the "true life of Muhammad" has already attracted attention of the media. Felix Strüning, Editor in Chief of the "Citizen Times", a European Union based online journal, spoke to Dr. Sina about: 1) Why he wants to make such a movie, 2) What are the dangers to cast and producers engaged in the movie, and 3) How to market such a film? Dr. Sina seems to have everything well planned. Read the complete interview here: Interview with ex-Muslim Ali Sina about his planned Muhammad biopic.

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Indian Government
written by non believer , March 01, 2012
Government of India is planning to ban the movie.
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Isn't it
written by bundypig , March 01, 2012
a shame when you can't produce something that is directly from sources? Having to worry about the safety of cast, producers etc. shameful Can't see that happening in any true religion, in fact the opposite would be true, I have seen many Hindu movies about many books and adventures of Ram, Ganesh and more, maybe because it will show that islam isn't a religion at all, just a cruel ideology, then the world will know! DO THE MOVIE
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Ali Sina - The cursed one
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
As for distribution, we may show the movie in theaters that are safe, such as in China or in select cities where Muslims don’t pose a major threat.


Is China a city?

Lol
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Lol

Priceless

I think sina (pronounced sinner) is unaware of the millions upon millions of muslims in the 'city' of China.

http://islaminchina.info/

A famous quote of sina:

"As I get to know people more on a personal level, I start liking animals more. Yes I have had the good fortune to meet many wonderful souls. Some of them were believers in God and some were not. But generally, I don’t have a very high esteem of our species."

So sina does not think very highly of our species at all. Sina is one of "our species" -therefore, he obviously does not have a high esteem about himself or his boyfriends like khan.
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A normal person
written by George varkey , March 01, 2012
Yes it should be released and the Truth about muhamads pedophilia, terrorism, sex scandle, war, murder, rape and destroy of civilization should be exposed. So that millions can leave this satanic cult and we have a generation which will live a moral life.
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musla and paindu
written by Holy Messenger , March 01, 2012
Abhay O kutay, bhenchod, apni maa yuhwani hai kya? dekh teri doosri maa, yaani aaisha gashti 9 saal mei judi thi, teri maa bhi kya 9 saal mei chudi thi? sunnat puri karni hai, to phir teri maa per 9 saal ki umar mei kon charrha tha. saala haramzada. ziday zuban dikhai to teri maa ka mei 21st husand ho jaaun ga, samjha. Razeel aur kameena tere Mo bhenchod, us ko prophet bana dya.
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written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
Abhay O kutay, bhenchod,


Please enrol on a course to learn english - without it you will not receive a Visa.

Ps. I will remind your mum and sister when I see them again tonight ;-)
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M&Perverted
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
Your post was incoherent, and stupid...Just like your other comments...
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Musla and paindu
written by Holy Messenger , March 01, 2012
abay O bhardway, tu hindi bhaasha bhi bolta hai. ab to mei tera ekiswan (21st) baap hun. tujh apne baap se baat karna bhi nahi aati, haramzaday. tera muhammad jis raakshas ko tu peghmbar kehta hai, us ki hadia qabar mei jal kar raakh ho gaeen hain. Islam chorrday, warna teri behn ke saath saath teri maa ka bhi balat kaar kar daaloon ga. samjha. Kuti ka bacha.
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Pakistani Government
written by True Believer , March 01, 2012
Government of Pakistan is planning to allow, Sir. Ali Sina's movie in cinema houses.
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Muslim and proud
written by Arab Citizen , March 01, 2012
Mr. Muslim, you said, "Please enrol on a course to learn english - ..." to another blogger. While I was wondering that English is not the native languave of Muslims, whereas, Arabic is supposed to be the native language or spiritual language for all muslims. Why didn't you ask him/her to enrol on the course of learning Arabic rather English. Do you think Arabic is uncivilzed language for you? The other point is that, what visa for the country you are talking about?
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correction,
written by Arab Citizen , March 01, 2012
its not languave, but language. mistyped.
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Dopey tosser
written by rzq , March 01, 2012
Sure the govt of Pakistan will allow it!
Maybe sina could attend the red carpet screening?
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Arab citizen
written by rzq , March 01, 2012
You do not get a visa to England if you cannot speak English.
Arabic is not the requirement!
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rzq and Muslim Proud
written by Arab Citizen , March 01, 2012
well thank you for giving me information, first of all, I asked this question from "Muslim and Proud". The other thing is that if you are eager to learn english in order to get visas for western countries where english is their native language. Is UK, USA or Canada is more important for you rather than to learn Arabic to get visa to Jannah easily. Or if you are a same person but writing with two or multiple different names.
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Arab Citizen
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
Rzq is my muslim brother - I have no issues with him responding.

Cursed ex Muslims need Visa when they are thrown out of their Country (after committing high treason).

They run like dogs to their fathers who need them to learn English before they can obtain a Visa.

Hope this helps
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Muslim Proud
written by Arab Citizen , March 01, 2012
you said that "Cursed ex Muslims need Visa when they are thrown out of their Country (after committing high treason)."

Do you know when Muslims in Arabia in the life time of Muhammad, especially when the first migration to Abbysina transpired therein, the followers of Muhammad converted to Christianity. This is the history where Muhammad Hussain Haykal, a muslim Egyptian Historian, in his book, "The life of Muhammed" has mentioned it. What were the causes, I don't want to discuss about that, why you curse people who leave Islamic religion.
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M&Pervert
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
They run like dogs to their fathers

I didn't know you had children...do you beat them often or just every week or so?
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Arab Citizen
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
"why you curse people who leave Islamic religion."

I don't.

Not ALL ex Muslims are cursed. I only curse those who curse Islam. It is a shame that the cursed ex muslims make a decision to leave Islam - yet they ask a million questions AFTER leaving Islam.
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@ Muslim and Proud
written by Proud Infidel , March 01, 2012
You're nothing but a pesky, antagonizing little punk.
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@ Muslim and Proud
written by Proud Infidel , March 01, 2012
"Cursed ex Muslims"

Really? Cursed ex Muslims? How are thecursed, and what do you think should happen to "ex muslims"?
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Infidel
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
The ones who commit high treason should be put down.

This who leave peacefully, well good luck to them......they may well decide
One day to return.

Leaving Islam is on a need to know basis and 'nobody needs to know'.
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M&P
written by dead or alive , March 01, 2012
You said~So Sina does not think very highly of our species.-Do human beings kill one another?
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Muslim Proud
written by Arab Citizen , March 01, 2012
you said, "The ones who commit high treason should be put down."
I tell you a story. Once a companion of Muhammad got caught while sending a secret message to Meccans. The secret message was about the plan of Muhammad and his intention about invading Mecca. But the message got caught on its way and couldnt get reached to the authorities of Mecca.
When Muhammad came to know about this incident, he aquired the reason about the treason that is companion did. Companion replied, he did it because his relatives are in Mecca and he don't want any harm approach them. Upon this Muhammad didn't pass any sentence about his action and was forgiven because he was also participant in the battle of Badr. Who gave you authority to pass negative remarks and sending curse who curses Islam?
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M&Perverted sucks a lemon
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
The ones who commit high treason should be put down.

Explain 'high treason'...are you advocating murder again mangy cur?
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Arab Citizen
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
With all due respect....

There is a considerable difference between treason and 'high' treason.

It is only reasonable to call a spade 'a spade' my friend.
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Muslim proud
written by Arab Citizien , March 01, 2012
you have given wrong judgement. Treason is treason, whether high or low it doesn't matter. May be in your culture you see with other aspect. The judgment you are trying to say is that Allah and Muhammad; Allah is a high and Muhammad is low. So your judgement explains that you can listen to Allah but not Muhammad. Please whenever you try to give logic or explanation, think it twice before you post.
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Hindi Laanti
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
Try an learn english Mr.
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M&Perveret
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
Every time you fail to answer a question mangy cur, proves that I am right...

Define treason, and high treason as it applies to Islam...If you are too frightened to define it for me, define it to Arab Citizen...If you can't do that, then you are a liar and have nothing to say...again...
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So-called Holy Messenger
written by Arab Citizien , March 01, 2012
Which part of the world you live in?
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M&Perverted
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
There is a considerable difference between treason and 'high' treason.

Explain them in detail...if not to me, to Arab Citizen...
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Holy Messenger
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
Arab shitizen...How did you learn to spell that? Where did you get it? Shitizen is a word used to describe Muslims by a pack of black magician kuffar out to put spells on them...You don't know how to pronounce it do you? If you say it correctly after midnight, you can bring calamity to any Muslim within a hundred feet...If you shout it loudly from a window, it can destroy a whole village...You may have accidentally stumbled across it, but it is a word you should abandon...unless you want to attract that band of magicians...
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Messenger
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
You might want to note that the majority of people who are on this blog are using the English language as the main communication vehicle. I am doubtful that many of them understand Swahili and thus your comments will go unread and have no value.
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@ muslim and pathetic
written by pipo , March 01, 2012

Why don't you take your LOLS to the "1000 Mistakes and errors in the Quran" website and enlighten yourself a bit.
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Errors?
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
I have seen no errors in the Quran, please show me one I am curious to see it. Thank you
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Piso
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
No thanks - there is no such thing as an error in the Holy Qur'an.

The website you refer to is the actual error - LOL LOL
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Arab Citizen
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
"you have given wrong judgement. Treason is treason, whether high or low it doesn't matter. May be in your culture you see with other aspect. The judgment you are trying to say is that Allah and Muhammad; Allah is a high and Muhammad is low. So your judgement explains that you can listen to Allah but not Muhammad. Please whenever you try to give logic or explanation, think it twice before you post."

What on earth are you talking about?

The penalty for war against Allah (the exalted) or against his Messenger (peace be upon him) INCLUDES death.

And actually it does matter, otherwise the wrong punishment could be given.
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Malman Pancho hypocrite
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
I have seen no errors in the Quran, please show me one I am curious to see it. Thank you

How about inconsistencies and contradictions? Abul Kasem wrote a whole book on them that can be found at the top left of the page...read that for enlightenment...
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Duh you diverted?
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
I said show me the errors, the poster said there were errors and mistakes, I asked for one. Still waiting....
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I was bloked becouese the repeated cloning the childish M&R have doen I am posting from diffrent cemputer
written by fineliving56 , March 01, 2012
First Malam

Not once you reffed to the fact that Muslim and proud and rzq are Muslims who believe Hadeeth and Sirah of Muhammd as 100 % true facts
I remember you saying it is GARBAGE ... you are is strictly Quran Muslim like Reed welson.

If that is not bias I do not know what is ...

So Malam ....

What do you think of Hadeeth, Bukary V 7, B 71 N 590 which it said that Muhammad said : it is beneficial for good health for Muslims to drink camel urine '' ...

Do You still believe hadeeth nothing but trash we should through away or you going to go against your brothers M&R

if you do ... can you have a talk with them ...I would love to hear this nice conversation .

Muslim to Muslim ...

That caused for the master commuter to block me permanently ... All computers in my house are blocked ... the admin tried to fix the problem and it did not work ...

Too bad you Muslim are not going to stop me or any one like me to expose your criminal Muhammad you call a prophet



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Fineliving
written by rzq , March 01, 2012
Late again!
This has been covered before. A day ago!
Keep up if you can
"What do you think of Hadeeth, Bukary V 7, B 71 N 590 which it said that Muhammad said : it is beneficial for good health for Muslims to drink camel urine '' ..."

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Fineliving
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
I am not biased, what others believe is their business, when I am asked a question I try to answer to the best of my ability. So you ask what I think about the whole Camel Urine topic. If you are from Africa, which I am, there is a long history with Camels and their role. Milk is mainly the the fluid used from camels, however urine can be as well. From a medical standpoint camels urine is can be effective in the treatment of skin diseases such as ringworm, tinea and abscesses, sores on the body. It has also been found to be of value in treating the swelling of the liver and other diseases such as abscesses. So if you ask can it be beneficial, yes it can in the right circumstances. I have not used it in my practice but have recommended camels milk in certain cases of digestive issues to which it has been very effective.

In terms of my beliefs, it is that the Quran is the word of Allah and the only word of Allah. That is stated in the Quran itself, should others want to believe otherwise or follow other writings it is their free will. Not sure about your comments on computer blocking etc.. I have nothing to offer there as it is not my expertise. I also will add I never tried to stop you from offering your opinion or view and would never try to, I unlike some of the others, want to hear other viewpoints and enjoy civil discussion.
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Of course!
written by Tanstaafl jw , March 01, 2012
There are no errors in the Qur'an, it is a work of fiction. Besides, any errors are in those scraps that the goat ate.
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Qur'an errors anyone?
written by Yibel , March 01, 2012
To M&P concerning your post to:
Hindi Laanti
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
Try an learn english Mr.

The correct English is: Try TO learn... AN is not correct. And English is a proper noun and needs to be capitalized. Many people who post on this site have English as a second or even third language, so please be tolerant and overlook the errors of fellow posters. Also, we are still waiting to learn the difference between treason and high treason.

To Malem:
Curiouser and curiouser! You see no errors in the Qur'an. A case of "See No Evil" I suppose. Well, just so you know, the earth is not flat; there are no 7 heavens and the sky is not a canopy held up overhead by invisible pillars; mountains were not thrown down to stablize the earth so it won't tilt and sway when people on horseback ride across it; allah did not make the roads for man to travel on; the sun, moon and stars are not located in the lowest level of seven heavens; the sun does not set in a pool of muddy water, or burn people's skins when it rises in the east. In fact, it doesn't set or rise at all; the earth actually rotates around the sun and the moon rotates around the earth and the stars are way the heck out there. WOW, huh? Guess you did not know that. And humans are not created from clots of blood, or water, or dust or germs even though Muhammad said so in his Qur'an.
The Qur'an talks a lot about the Jinn, but there are no such thing. They are a figment of poor little mixed-up Arab's imaginations. The hajj is not a "holy" event. It is just a pre-Islamic pagan Arab festival, a holdover from the time when the Babylonian empire was powerful and everyone worshiped Marduk. The Qur'an is full of nothing but errors, from the stories about Biblical figures to the scientific stuff. The moon was split in two and Muhammad put it back together again. ROTFLOL
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Malnan Pancho dude
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
I said show me the errors, the poster said there were errors and mistakes, I asked for one. Still waiting....

Inconsistencies and contradictions are errors fool, either that or they are deliberate...are they deliberate? The first error/lie is that Allah is god, the second, mohammad was/is his messenger...all the other lies are piled on those...There are your errors...Pancho...
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Duh
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
You have never been able to prove that Allah does not exist nor that Mohammed was not his messenger so you have presented nothing.
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Yibel
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
"Also, we are still waiting to learn the difference between treason and high treason."

Who's we?

Is it the Royal we?

Free tip: Google it
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No Malam
written by fineliving56 , March 01, 2012
The fact that other cutlers like the Romans and China used it as medicine proves that Muhammad culture only coped and he copied in turn ...
some used to cure strep throat and others used boy's urine ... all non sense ... all scientist disregard it as folk remedy and it is harmful

And that begs the question ..

If urine is that beneficial, wouldn't have mentioned in quran ... Allah does not care to in light us ... I mean urine is the most available subsistence we could find ....... don't you think? ...






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Fineliving
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
How is you son?

And more importantly, what on earth are you talking about?

What are cutlers?
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Malam
written by fineliving56 , March 01, 2012
hadeeth sahih Muslims 41/ 14/ 1312 says : the Muslim believer has one stomach and all Kufar have 7 stomach EACH

As a doctor that you say you are, have you encountered such cases

you said you came to the US and US is full of these bad ... bad ... Kufires

So have you? ... if not ... Why have you not? ... what is the problem?


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Fineliving56 - Stomachs
written by Muslim and proud , March 01, 2012
You are obviously deluded about This and it is something that is still bugging you so long. It will be my pleasure to put you out your misery...

“The believer eats with one stomach while the kafir eats with seven stomachs.”
Meaning: The believer eats with the manners of Islam and in moderation, while the kafir eats based on desires and gluttony and so he eats with seven stomachs.

So it is therefore very foolish to think it means "literally" seven stomachs. I hope this allows you to sleep better goin forward.
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Malman falls down again
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
You have never been able to prove that Allah does not exist nor that Mohammed was not his messenger so you have presented nothing.

You can't prove I exist moron...you have to suspend rationality to believe in a non existent deity..Allah is not my god, he is yours, so I have nothing to prove...The ball is in your court to prove he exists...You can do that can't you? If you can't prove Allah exists then you worship a phantom, and you have nothing left to say...You are intellectually bankrupt...
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Fineliving
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
A question was asked about Camel urine I gave and answer, I neither confirmed or denied it was contained in the Quran, please check my post. I do agree that Urine is most available but only in proportion to the amount of fluids taken into the body. The Camel also has a very different process in which to process urine, much too complicated a discussion for this board.

Now, first I will state that Hadith is NOT Quran, and I believe the Quran is the only true word of Allah. That being said lets take a look at your Line/Verse. You need to understand the entire Hadith first and I believe you mean Hadith 47. The meaning of this verse is not to state that the physical body of a Kafir contains seven stomachs. The meaning is that the believer in Islam (Muslim) eats within the manners and moderation of Islam, whereas the Kafir suffers from gluttony and eats as "if" they had seven stomachs.

You ask a question "Have you" but what is the full question? Have I what? Gone to the US? Answer YES. You ask "What is the problem" Answer I dont see any problem.
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fineliving
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
I got your sons message...I'm keeping those addresses for future use...I'm interested but can't participate at the present time...Please thank him for me...
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fineliving...
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
Now I get administrated for thanking fine livings son for a kindness...There is something wrong with the administrater...
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Malem
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
"The meaning is that the believer in Islam (Muslim) eats within the manners and moderation of Islam, whereas the Kafir suffers from gluttony and eats as "if" they had seven stomachs."

Spot on.

Why would an ex-muslim be so foolish to think that a kafir has 7 stomachs - that is funny. Maybe fineliving56 now eats as if she has 7 stomachs......that could be one reason.
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Malem
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
This is what uh said:

"Allah is not my god, he is yours"

So Allah (the exalted) is a God nevertheless. You need to thank Duh for confirming this.
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Excellent point brother
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
Duh did state that indeed Allah is a God, thus one can easily take from that statement that he must exists. He also indicated Allah is not his God, thus implying he has an alternative God, but I thought he was an atheist? I am confused Duh. So far you have indicated that you eat Bacon (a meat) and have God. You have stated in the past that your were a Vegan and an Atheist. Did you change your views?
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Fineliving
written by rzq , March 01, 2012
Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself again.
Read a book on pharmacology:
Premarin® stands for Pregnant Mares' Urine (PREgnant MARes' urINe)

Premarin (including Prempro, Premphase, Prempac, and Premelle) is a drug made up of conjugated estrogens obtained from the urine of pregnant mares -- put out in many forms (pills, creams, injections, patches, vaginal rings) and is used to reduce the symptoms of menopause in women or women who have had a hysterectomy. It is also prescribed to nearly eliminate the risk of osteoporosis (the brittling of bones) and reduce the chance of heart disease in women over 50."

Turns out that you maybe taking the camel urine meds for your menopause!!!
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Malem - My Pleasure
written by Muslim & Proud , March 01, 2012
Duh has made a complete fool of himself so many times that it is almost guranteed to happen on a daily basis.

His views also change like the British weather. He needs to find a partner and start to enjoy life.......that's if any woman is stupid enough!!!!
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Rzq
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
You are correct that Premarin is made from the urine of mares, in my practice I tend to prescribe estraderm which is a much safer replacement to the harsh side effects that can be caused be premarin.
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Admin M.Khan
written by fineliving56 , March 01, 2012
Please I like for you to read the post before this by rzq and tell me if you do not see

Herasment for being a women ... rzq is going over the top with degrading ... Menopause ???

that is aside from harassment for each all other posters ...

Rzq have called me all kind of names but enough is enough !!!!

Are you going to do something about that man and his friend Muslim ...

???
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?
written by Malem , March 01, 2012
Fineliving I have not harrassed anyone in anyway on these postings. In fact one might look at Duh with his constant vulgar and disparaging comments if anything. My postings, answered your direct questions to me only. No sly remarks or comments were added, just the answers. My stance is that we can have civil discussions on this and other topics quite easily and there is no need for personal attacks.
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written by fineliving56 , March 01, 2012
Malam

I was not talking about you ... so far you are civil enough

I was talking about rzq and I have said his name ... not you
go read his post to me and I did not even ask him for anything !!!
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M&Pervert sucks on Malmans teat...
written by duh_swami , March 01, 2012
Duh has made a complete fool of himself so many times that it is almost guranteed to happen on a daily basis.

You still prefer to tell others about me but won't address me directly...What a toilet brush you are mangy cur coward...What about your tax payments going to kill your other brothers...I asked you three times now coward, answer up or shut up...
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Fineliving
written by rzq , March 01, 2012
You can dish it but clearly can't take it!!
If you can't take the heat then get out if the kitchen as they say!!!!
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To M & P
written by Archpagan , March 01, 2012
Ex- Muslims are all cursed? Vultures always curse animals to death. Does it really matter? Are not all Muslims apostates (or their descendants) from other religions? Do you seek blessing from your former religion or from your non-Muslim ancestor?
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M&P,RSQ,Malem/etc
written by Clement-Islam- Watch Pastor , March 02, 2012
Why do Muslim good in specialising in the none essentials, leaving the major issue that affect the foundation of your faith. The bunch of lies revealed in your scriptures. Someday said no error in the Quran, and Yibel reeled out a catalogue of them, yet none could say anything except this Carmel urine thing. You like diverting attention the irrelevant. Give us proofs that the Quran is divine and that Mohammed is the messenger of the God of this universe. Is not enough to say your prophet first discovered medicine in Carmel urine even if that is true, will that make the Quran a divine book or Make Mohammed a prophet of God?

Please response to things that will enhance the image of your prophet and Quran here because in this site they are not worth more than toilet paper.
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M&P and Co
written by Clement-Islam- Watch Pastor , March 02, 2012
Why do you Muslim good in paying attention on none essentials? Leaving the major issue that affect the foundation of your faith. There are bunch of lies revealed in your scriptures.

Someday said no error in the Quran, Yibel reeled out a catalogue of them, yet none could say anything except this Carmel urine thing. You like diverting attention to the irrelevant. Give us proofs that the Quran is divine and that Mohammed is the messenger of the God of this universe. Is not enough to say your prophet first discovered medicine in Carmel urine even if that is true, will that make the Quran a divine book or Make Mohammed a prophet of God?

Please response to things that will enhance the image of your prophet and Quran here because in this site they are not worth more than toilet paper.
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Clement
written by Malem , March 02, 2012
I try to respond to direct questions, the whole camel thing, while amusing on some juvenile level to some, was a question posed in such a way to degrade the Holy Quran, so I addressed it. As for the errors, there were not shown. What was shown was perceived conflicting statements any and all that can be easily addressed with explanation. Should you have one, please bring it forward and I shall address it.

It is quite interesting you say to provide you proof that the Quran is Allahs word and that Mohammed was the last messenger who brought it forward to us. I could also ask you the same type of question to bring me proof that the one you call God exists and prove to me the Bible is his word. I have provided evidence to this many times in the past and really do not think re-hashing old discussions is worth the time but here is my offer. You show me your proof and I will present mine! Sounds like a fair deal to me.

As for enhancing the image of Mohammed, I cannot do so, he is a prophet and I am a man, plus his image in my mind seems to be fine so why change it. Why you chose to lower your conversation to a childish level by comparing him and the Quran to toilet paper is beyond me, I have not done so to you and would expect from a mature adult some sort of mutual respect.
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Malman supremacist lout
written by duh_swami , March 02, 2012
expect from a mature adult some sort of mutual respect.

There is no mutual respect between Islam and anything fool...Islam stands alone in disrespectful BS, and you are a purveyor of it...it is not possible to have a respectful conversation about an evil fraud when you are complicit in the fraud...You are more articulate than your vulgar brothers, but every bit the fraud...
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Clement
written by duh_swami , March 02, 2012
Your throwing pearls before swine...Nice try though...
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Malem
written by Clement-Islam- Watch Pastor , March 02, 2012
You are one of those muslim still maintain their cool in the midst of provocation, but the problem is that you are still deluded as long as you still take the Quran a divine book with all evidences to the Contrary.

I am currently picking on RZQ on some verses of the Quran that look satanic which I want me to clarify is in one of the thread you can find them. May be you can be of helf there as well. You know that your prophet admitted that he sometimes spoke on behalf of Satan and sometimes not. There numerous verses of the Quran that are suspect. I am sure Mohammed was able to get rid of all the Satanic verses as he did in the case those little daughters of Allah episode.

Please go to the thread and help out I will not copy paste here. Buy so doing You are proving that the Quran is the word of God.

Thanks anyway for your cool response, I hope you will not go saucy as we go on. I am not sure I ever debated with you before as I did with Reed and Fairox and Duh_swami and Machmued

But you can try. Cheers
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Pastor
written by rzq , March 02, 2012
Only adiminstration is saving your gloating !
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rzq Defeated one
written by duh_swami , March 02, 2012
Only adiminstration is saving your gloating !

That's because the administration is smarter than you are...I had to correct your spelling...
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1000mistakes
written by pipo , March 02, 2012
The Quran is a pretty strange book, dictated by an intellectual kleptomaniac and opportunist. I can't find any logic there or coherence, I think it's profoundly ambiguous and completely unintelligible.

To shed light in this darkness -1000mistakes.com- is a treasure, almost undispensable... They have an integrity that is totally lacking in most muslim commenters here on IW.
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Very Strange Indeed
written by Yibel , March 03, 2012
For anyone familiar with the Bible, reading the Qur'an is like finding yourself in the Twilight Zone. The names are familiar, but the stories have been changed considerably - and contain lots of invented stuff. Some have called the Qur'an a plagiarized version of the Bible but it's really not because the stories in the Qur'an bear little or no resemblance to the original stories in the Bible. Muhammad was a very history ignorant person trying to fake his way in order to gain converts to his cause.

Whenever I read the Qur'an I hear Twilight Zone music. Then I laugh because, according to the ahadith, Muhammad hated music.
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Yibel
written by duh_swami , March 03, 2012
Reading the Quran is a lot like reading Alice in Wonder land...Islam is not Wonderland, but Muslims think so after they eat the hallucinogenic mushroom called Shahada...Instead of the Mad Hatter they get Mohammad, Allah is played by the Red Queen, who says, 'off with their heads', and 'I love executions in the morning'...Some ancient Arabian ate some strange mushrooms and fell down a rabbit hole, the Quran is a record of his hallucinations...
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duh_swami
written by then lie , March 03, 2012
like I say that you can't use your mind.Quran from the God(Allah) king of the Gods.all people like arabian christian or jews million of them can't make qoran from 14th century even one surah like this.no one can't make this.
16:69. kemudian makanlah dari tiap-tiap (macam) buah-buahan dan tempuhlah jalan Tuhanmu yang telah dimudahkan (bagimu). Dari perut lebah itu keluar minuman (madu) yang bermacam-macam warnanya, di dalamnya terdapat obat yang menyembuhkan bagi manusia. Sesungguhnya pada yang demikian itu benar-benar terdapat tanda (kebesaran Tuhan) bagi orang-orang yang memikirkan.


69. Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Allah(Lord), made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their
bellies a drink diverse of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect
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...
written by then lie , March 04, 2012
S U R A T A L - H I J R

15:22. Dan Kami telah meniupkan angin untuk mengawinkan (tumbuh-tumbuhan) dan Kami turunkan hujan dari langit, lalu Kami beri minum kamu dengan air itu, dan sekali-kali bukanlah kamu yang menyimpannya.
22. And We send the winds fertilizing, and cause water to descend from the sky, and give it you to drink. It is not ye
who are the holders of the store thereof.
an

mengawinkan tumbuh tumbuhan , segala jenis tumbuhan. nabi Muhammad tidak mengetahui ilmu ini. kecuali dari Allah, ilmu ini dari Allah.
wind fertilizing ....mated to grow herbs, all kinds of plants. Prophet Muhammad did not know this science. except from Allah( God), this knowledge of Allah(God).
Holy Quran from Allah the god of human.back to islam.islam is the straight path
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then lie
written by duh_swami , March 04, 2012
You do know that the Bible listed what to eat and what not to eat way before Mohammad ever existed...Everyone already knew that seeds, fertilized dirt and rain, or hand watering made herbs and plants grow...Nothing new about agriculture was told to Mohammad by Gabriel that had not already been known...And when Mohammad did find out about growing, did he run right out to his back yard and plant a garden?
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then lie, here's the rest of the story
written by Yibel , March 04, 2012
Allah recognizes some human beings, namely the masters, as more blessed by Himself than the less favored slaves as part of His divine plan. He warns Muslims against sharing His gifts to them equally with their slaves. Those who would take slaves as equal, warns Allah, would deny Him:

Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others:

those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah? (Quran 16:71)

The institution of slavery in Islam was formalized in the following Quranic verse, in
which Allah distinguishes free human beings or masters, who exercise justice and
righteousness, from the dumb, useless and burdensome ones, the slaves:

Allah sets forth (another) Parable of two men: one of them dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master; whichever way he directs him, he brings no good: is such a man equal with one who commands Justice, and is on a Straight Way? (Quran 16:76)
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about Chlorophyll
written by A poem , March 04, 2012
What al-ah did not know about plants could fill many books. For example:

Moo am mad's little tin god forgot? Or did not know?
About the magic in plants that makes them grow!

And makes them APPEAR green to our eyes.
NO!!! Mo and his god were not very wise.

It's SUNLIGHT that is needed. The magic of light.
Those invisible rays that really excite
Those little chloroplasts within the plant cells
That turn sunlight into energy in the form of, well:

Carbohydrates, that is Sugars/Fructose!
That sweet, sweet nectar that every bee loves.

And about the importance of pollination, tell us please.
No!!! Al-ah never mentioned the importance of BEES.

Al-ah was just plain dumb, no doubt?
For NOT a word did he say about:

Females providing the ovum for the sperm to fertilize
In order to produce a new organism (human or otherwise).

Dumb, Dumb al-ah!!!
Allahu Aqbar NOT!!!

Allah is dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to us all; whichever way he directs, he's up to NO good: is such a god equal with one who commands Justice, Righteousness, and true Mercy. NO, he is NOT!!!
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Duh
written by Malem , March 06, 2012
It was not a lie, why would you think that Allah would tell two of his prophets different things? Actually that would be a good point to prove the existence and the validity that the Holy Quran is the word of Allah! So maybe a thank you is in order for you here for help to prove that point.
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Malman good Doctor...
written by duh_swami , March 06, 2012
I have no idea what you are writing about... Did you eat some of Alice Mushroom? No one can prove the Quran is the word of Allah, they can only claim it, and then believe their own claims...That is proof of nothing...You continue to believe in fairy tales...
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Are you hungry
written by Malem , March 06, 2012
Duh, I do not know this type of mushroom the alice mushroom, but I do like Shitaki, Morels, Himilaya and Portobella. The proof is in the Quran itself, but you have to read it and study it, which I understand you choose not to do. So instead you repost the same questions over and over and call people the same names over and over. You must be tired at one point, no? Why not just engage in a civil and orderly discussion, it takes much less physical energy but more mental. The Holy Quran is the word of Allah, so now what is the topic at hand you would like to inquire about. It is surely not what this topic string started about which was the Sina movie.
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so Malem tell us please
written by Yibel , March 07, 2012
Enlighten us poor peasants here in dar al-harb. Since you believe in this allah character who claims to have sent down this book of extremely weird sayings, and who swears by the very stars he created that it is a mighty good book and even in Qur'an 89:1-4 proclaims:

By the Dawn and the Ten Nights (the first ten nights of the Islamic sacred month of Dhul-Hajjah), by that which is dual, and that which is single; by the night when it comes!
Is there not in this mighty oath for a man of sense?

What, pray tell, is your grand poo-bah talking about? Enlighten please, if you are a man of sense?

Surrat 89 The Dawn ( Al-Fajr) was only Muhammad's tenth sermon so maybe he wasn't very articular at this point in his career, but this nonsense is enough to invoke the gagging reflex!

Speaking of the people Ad (Who???) and Thamud (again Who???) Quran Surrah 89:13 has this to say:
Allah poured on them the disaster of His punishment. (Allah refers to himself in the third person). A little more explanation would certainly be helpful. Maybe the people of Muhammad's day were familiar with these two incidents, but what about the rest of us 1400 years later.

This book was supposed to have been pre-written, with a copy kept under allah's throne. Didn't allah know that somewhere down the timeline there would be questions??

And why doesn't the copy under the throne get burnt up at night when the sun (Al-Shams) goes there to rest before getting permission from allah to rise again the next day?

The proof is in the qur'an, you say! So where exactly?
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2 Malem
written by Machmoed , March 07, 2012
Malem, you say the proof is in the qur'an itself. What proof? You can't take the one and leave the other. We know for example that stars/comets/meteorites are not missiles used by Allah to shoot the jinn. In the 8th century there were the elite/educated ones called Mu'tazilites and they were muslims. The difference was that they believed that the Qur'an is a shaped one and the true and litteral words of Muhammad inspired by Allah. They were banned and killed by the rulers and from that time they constructed islam as you believe it now (8th/9th century). Why would Allah swear to his creation? Why would Allah praise himself? Is He not too majestic for that kind of childish behaviour?
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Machmoed and Yibel
written by Malem , March 07, 2012
Should you want a clear explanation of a certain Surah or verse then present it forth with a number for reference. What you are doing in the above is presenting your words and only portions of the verse, I cannot explain your modified versions as they are not the real version as presented in the Holy Quran.
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skin in the Holy Quran
written by then lie , March 10, 2012
Prof DR Tagagat Tajasen from budhist back to islam after research skin in the Quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhHr7OBQrKs&fmt=5
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...
written by then lie , March 10, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhHr7OBQrKs&fmt=5

Al-Qur'an Scientific Evidence: Science Skin (dermatology)
Al-Qur'an really come from God, has many world scientists who proved that the Quran has scientific benar2 very simple language so easy to be understood that all people want to think about. Some examples, punish the infidels by means of skin burn, skin why?.

The skin is the sense of taste, one of which is to feel the heat from burning. When skin burns completely - right down to the nerve center of taste - it will be gone the pain because the nerves of taste is dead skin. That is why Allah punishes unbelievers on the Day of Judgment one day to restore their skins every time, as it is spoken of the Most Holy Praised Again in Al-Quran verses below.

Those who disbelieved Our revelations, We shall put them into hell. SKIN Each time they expire, we replace them with LEATHER LEATHER others, so they feel the punishment. Surely Allah is Mighty, Wise. (Surah 4:56)

Their foreheads ... and burned, stomach and back (and said) to them: This is that you store your things for yourselves, so taste now (due to) what you save. (Surah 9:35)

Then the infidels will be made for them garments of fire of hell. Boiling water was poured over their heads. (Qur'an 22:19)

Was destroyed with water luluhkan whatever is in their bellies and skin (they are). (Qur'an 22:20)

There are scientific cue from the verse that God would punish people who reject one of the main ways by burning forehead, then stomach, then chest ... and so are suffering from abuse suggests that, as the pain of stress and depression in the "forehead" which could lead to other diseases throughout the body .

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