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New Book: How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad’s Daughter Tells It All

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"How Fatima Started Islam", a satirical new novel by Noor Barack, depicts how Fatimah, the beautiful young daughter of drunkard brothel-pimp Muhammad, started a new religion out of good intention, but it turned out to be a monster to haunt humanity.


How Fatimah Started IslamA bitter conflict is brewing between the American ideal of Freedom of Speech and the radical islamic idea that Mohammad cannot be insulted and that those who do may face torture and death.

The new book, "How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad’s Daughter Tells It All" by Noor Barack lampoons Islam and pushes the envelope of provocation and Noor is pushing the door toward a Fatwa.

The satirical novel is a first person account of early Islam written by Fatima, daughter of the Prophet. In it, the highly intelligent and beautiful Fatima looks back to the early history of Islam and explains how the modern world has gotten all the facts of early Islam totally and completely wrong, and how the true facts came to be so radically altered.

In the book Mohammad is a slow-witted, alcoholic owner of Mohammad’s Saloon & Brothel who, after a head injury, begins to have strange periods where he rambles on-talking nonsense in random syllables. Fatima, the brightest in the family by far, just short of her 13th birthday, seizes the opportunity to change her miserable life and pretends to be able to interpret Mohammad’s gibberish with wise sayings and thoughts. This is how the Qu’ran and religion are born. Fatima does this to try to bring peace, prosperity, equality, and justice to Arabia and the world but circumstances eventually thwart her goals and a mean, ugly, and oppressive religion emerges over what Fatima wanted and strove for.

The story is very humorous, but it contains elements that will horrify many orthodox Islamists. This book pulls no punches and it will be either loved or hated by readers. To paraphrase the foreword, This book tries to poke fun at some people who are not known for being fun loving.


This book (pp. 234, $19.95) is available via amazon.com only. The author can be contacted through email at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it for a short period. If you wish to speak with the author over telephone, please email your telephone number and name to him.

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usa shud ban islam like it banned communism....
written by usa shud ban islam like it ban , September 29, 2009
usa shud ban islam like it banned communism....bcoz
just like commie ideology which is totalitarian and voilent islam is also totalitarian and voilent and crushes human rights.

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usa susa shud ban islam like it banned communism..
written by usa susa shud ban islam like i , September 29, 2009
usa shud ban islam like it banned communism....bcoz both r hate based anti humanity political ideology and want total control of human thoughts and is anti human rights freedom.
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Don\'t fear PEACE
written by Islam , September 29, 2009
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world in general and USA and Britain in particular. Why are people so frightened by this fact that they want to ban it. Truth has to dominate over falsehood.
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written by Islam , September 29, 2009
DON'T BE CLOSE MINDED. LEARN QUR'AN WITH AN OPEN MIND. DONT HAVE BLIND FAITH ON WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ISLAM. KNOW IT YOURSELF.
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bE oPTIMISTIC
written by mo\'min , September 29, 2009
iSLAM iS THE rELIGION OF pEACE. Even iif the media goes for false propaganda against islam by calling the muslims as terrorists, it still spreads like wild fire. Let the truth prevail.What are u gonna ban? No one can ban the TRUTH of ISLAM
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A simple question
written by tanstaafl , September 29, 2009
How many Muslims would there actually be if the penalty of death for apostasy was banned?
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Truth hurts
written by duh_swami , September 29, 2009
From post above: No one can ban the TRUTH of ISLAM..

Maybe, but you can gain knowledge of it, and you can understand it...Knowledge and understanding of the 'truth of Islam', gives you power over it...You shall know the truth (of Islam) and the truth will set you free'...Free from what? Islamic truth...of course...apostate today...
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written by Asus , September 29, 2009
If Islam is the rreligion of peace then what should we call Christianity or Buddhism- Religions of super peace. Before u lash out with the fact that people have done negative thingse.g murders in the name of Christianity or Buddhism you must understand that they did it out of their scriptures as nowhere in their scriptures does their GOd say "KIll the unbelievers till they pay the poor rate". Look at the lives of their masters- Jesus and Buddha they lived peacefully and did not force their religion down the throat of any one. THe Jews in the Old Testament were told by God to kill enemy nations because this nations had nothing but sheer contempt for the Jews. They would pollute the Jews with idolatry. Even still then YHWH did not allow King David to build the temple Why? God said he had been a man of war and had "shed much blood on the earth before his sight".Despite the fact that David was defending the Israelites from political and spiritual enemies (which I on an ordinary ground do not see as wron)Yahweh still called him abloody man (David was not even a religious leader not to mention a religious founder). But Al Illah(Allah) of the Muslims glories in the blood of all those who oppose Islam. Muhammad"s relatively peaceful life in Mecca changes as soon as he grabs power in Medina. He then embarks on many wars and raids( I remeber aquote "Give a man power and u will see what he truly is"). Islam is the fastest breeding religion. Not so many convert into it as those who leave it. I personally here in Nigeria I know up to 11 muslim friends of mine who have left Islam to another religion but I have not seen one person who converted ino Islam. We have read the Quran and we see it has very few original statements and wisdom as when compared to the Jewish Scriptures, The Christian Bible, The Analect of Cofucius and the writings of many other sages. Typical Muslim- "Trth has to dominate over falsehood". Domination is all that muslims dream of and see. Even if it cost them murdering, lies, hypocrisy or claiming to agree with the God of the Jews or Christians.
USA cant ban Islam they are too "sheepish" to do so , they are ready to "turn the other cheek" and keep recieving slaps from Islam. USA and many western civilisations will keep claiming Islam is peaceful and "True" muslims are peaceful and good (not knowing it is only false muslims that have been exposed to some westernized thinking that are peaceful), Until they wake up one morning to realise that Islam has enslaved them and they have lost their western civilization. Thogh I am a Christian I do not believe we should keep "loving our enemies" who have nothing in mind than to clear us out of the planet or forcibly convert us into their evil cult. Other "enemies" who are willing to peacfully contribute to great, prosperous Christian founded countreies can stay. I love Buddhists, Hindus and many others because I kow they do not "continuously medidate" and think of enslaving others to their own religious. God bless all lovers of humanity. Even those with clearly demonic religions, if they want to march for the progress of mankind and remove "Global domination" mentality I forever love even though our beliefs on salvation and the spiritual nature of the universe differs.
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written by duh_swami , September 29, 2009
From above: DON'T BE CLOSE MINDED. LEARN QUR'AN WITH AN OPEN MIND. DONT HAVE BLIND FAITH ON WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ISLAM. KNOW IT YOURSELF.

I tried that and it gave me a headache...

I tried having an open mind once, and my brains fell out...
Take my advice...leave that open minded stuff to the professionals...If you 'learn' the Quran with an open mind,
your brain will crash and burn...But you already know that...don't you...
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Growing
written by Jjohn , September 29, 2009
Reading the Quran is very enlightening. I too recommend it for everyone. There is nothing like it anywhere in the world. It's explicit commands to torture, slaughter, steal and kill place it in a special category of religious scripture. 9:29

In the US at least, every third Muslim is an FBI agent. They're in your mosques, they are tapping your phone and slipping GPS devices on your cars. There are listening devices in your homes. Your internet usage is tracked by technology you don't even know exists.

Every feasible source of home made explosives from nail polish remover to peroxide for first aid is being tracked by computer. Your Imams are tracked 24/7.

The US got stung with 9/11. You got the twin towers and killed 3000 people. In reaction, we have invaded and occupied two Muslim countries and we have killed millions... at least according to Muslim sources.

You are so superstitious and easily led that you actually believe that urban legend about Islam being the fastest growing religion.

Your sons should be raising families and building lives for themselves. Instead, they are rotting in prisons for their plots.

You may not like it, but as you say, "Allah knows best"
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Islam
written by balam to Islam , September 29, 2009
If you had an open mind and studied
quran and life of Mohammad ,you
would no longer be a follower of
Islam.Every thing is pretentious in Islam.Allah is a fake
pagan god,which has never been able to prove itself.Mohammad is a fake prophet.Any prophesy by by Mohammad? Any miracles performed by him.Did he give life back to the dead?Did he make the lame walk?Did he give sight to the blind? No,Never.On the contrary,he killed the living human beings.He cut the legs of people
and made them lame.He gouged the eyes of people and made them blind.He was possessed with demonic spirit rather than the HOLY spirit.He was an embodiment of evil,presented and worshipped by Muslims as holy.Quran is another fraud.You can see the fingerprints of Mohammad through out.It is incoherent.
You do not know where it begins and where it ends.Sura5 verse 3 is the last proclamatiom of Momammad,attributed to imaginary
Allah A.K.A Mohammad.Me stole all the stories from the Holy Bible and pre-Islamic sources and dictated to Zaid and claimed that it was written by Allah.Was Zaid Allah?Did any body see Allah writing quran and Zaid copying it.It is all cock and CUNT stories in quran.He made up the story about his journey to heaven and meeting God in person.Read sura17 verse 1.In fact,he was spending the steamy night with UMM-Hani,Abu Talibs
daughter and his cousin. It was not:BURAK:with the face of a woman with make up on and back side of a horse.It was actually Umm Hani.which fits in the description and with each stroke Mohammad felt in next heaven till the seventh.One Jewish Scholar was asked :Why would Mohammad fly from Mecca to Jeruslem first before flying to heaven? His short reply was:Because there are no direct flights from Mecca to Heaven!!!
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written by Someone , September 29, 2009
Yeah nothing can ban the "truth" of Islam, aside from the inconsistencies, errors, contradictions and other bullshit found in the Qur'an itself and the laughable life story of your prophet in the Ahadith and Sira.
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written by Someone , September 29, 2009
That's exactly what I did. I had a positive view of Islam, until I read the Qur'an. It's a book full of hate and superstition. It contains a few good teachings yes, but none of them were unknown to the world at that time. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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written by Someone , September 29, 2009
Don't fear peace? We see what happens in Islamic countries, you call that peace? Do you think we are immoral for trying to fight off Sharia from ever being implemented in another country?
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written by Someone , September 29, 2009
He most likely hasn't read the Qur'an himself and thinks that just because we view it as an immoral book, we haven't read it with an open mind as the only thing he knows about the Qur'an is that it's "peaceful, beautiful, perfect and full of wisdom" (the usual lies muslims get taught by their imams/parents).

It are the muslims who should learn to look at things with an open mind, but instead they look at everything from the mind of a 7th century desert dweller.
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Whether banning or exposing Islam will do?
written by Citizen , September 29, 2009
Many people suggest ban Islam, but I guess best is to expose islam fully and allow people to compare it with other cults. When the name of ISlam comes with other faiths like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc only thing we can get is surprise.
islam should be clubbed with nazism, dictatorship, maoism, theocracism etc.
Banning Islam will not work do following steps:
1. Protect the apsotates (exmuslims).
2. Allow full media coverage debates between apologist of islam and critics of islam.
3. In colleges , schools allow critics of islam to preach freely.
4. Expose the poverty, inhumanism, women subjugation etc in muslim society.
5. Give prize for women or men who works for women and children oppressed by muslims.
6. Creation of a special organization who will check the freedom and other rights of minorities in muslim countries.
7. UN should make the dicatators, theocrats, islamic rulers, etc as non-permament members of UN and they would not have much say till they allow freedom.
8. A worldwide media , exposing the Islam. each year there should be a caricature or cartoon competion where people will make cartoons about 'Truth' about muhammed and "Islam".
9. Muslims should be exposed as they hide between words like 'peace', 'truth', 'merciful', 'faith', 'innocent', 'religion'.
When islam allows killing non-muslims and raping women they its not 'peace' nor 'merciful; nor 'innocent'.
When moon god allah wants muslims to work for them and kill to sujugate others then it is 'cult' not 'faith' not 'religion' etc.
Show the middle east cases and muslim communities and we will know that muslim 'peace' means violence and killing the non-muslims and subjugation.
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If islam is peace then others are antipeace
written by MadmUllah , September 29, 2009
If islam is peace then other religions like christianity is anti-peace nor super peace. Islam allows pedophillia, raping non-muslim women, raping wife any time you want, beating women, female and male genital mutiliation. Lieing for the sake of allah. How can a god allow a man to lie for simple things? 72 virgins in allah's heavan. Thus dont even compare other religions with islam. Islam is anti-christian, anti-buddhism and all other good religions. What is peace for islam is violence for other religion.
Kill the infidels where-ever you find them is 'peace' in islam, while it is clearly violence on others.
'Love your neighbours' is peace for christianity while 'violence' for islam.
Understood
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written by Jerrold Shapp , September 29, 2009
The book "How Fatima Started Islam" is hilarious. I have just finished it and it insults Mohammad on almost every page. We need more stuff that tells the truth about Islam, I did not know what a drunk and fool Mohammad was.
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Translate Website
written by Ashish Patel , September 29, 2009
Websites like www.islam-watch.org and www.faithfreedom.org need to be translated into Arabic, Urdu, Hindi etc as these are the populations which need to be targeted.
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A person who knows computer knows english
written by Force1 , September 29, 2009
A person who can use internet, can read in english also.
Best is people should do mass production of these articles in newspaper like material and distribute to maximum people in there language.
Full exposure of islam and shaming muslims is the best bet.
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Ban Islam!! Expose Islam!!
written by Dajjal , September 29, 2009
The USA never banned Communism. The Communist Party participates in our Presidential elections.

At present, Islam can not be banned because it is falsely defined as a religion. It is protected by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment.

Banning Islam requires amending the Constitution to exclude Islam from the set of religions. This should be done based on its mercenary mission & militant methods.

The Ban Islam! petition is one way to wise people up. Copy it from the blog post at snooper.wordpress.com, sign it and email it to your friends.

There is another angle we can use, suggested by the recent UN resolutions against "defamation of Islam". ICERD, ICCPR & CPPCG proscribe several Islamic doctrines and practices, requiring that it be banned and punished by law. We need to expose the general public to this fact and pray to the World Court for injunctive relief.

Please join the 73 people who have endorsed the International Qur'an Petition, send it to your friends and to your Congressman & Senators or your MP & MEP.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/15/international-quran-petition
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Leaque of democratic nations
written by Demsci , September 29, 2009
Citizen, very good list indeed!

John McCain advocated a "Leaque of Democratic nations; that is better than to try the UN to ban dictators or theocrats. As even China and Russia are not democratic. The world always was very much divided, so it is OK if we distinquish between Democratic "goats" and Dictatorial/ Theocratic "sheep". Aiming to let ever more "sheep" become "goats".

Exposing the attitude of a part of the Muslims, especially those in power, to apostasy, is a good starting point. We should relentlessly confront Muslims with it, demanding some internal Islamic opposition to it.

Reciprocity in building mosques and churches, all sorts of rights between Democratic and Islamic countries also is a clear demand to Muslims.
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to Demsce
written by Plain Talk , September 29, 2009
Reciprocity in mosques and churches is something we can really implement.
The west could use a license system perhaps? I'm not quiet sure what is the best way, but there is a way. It is intolerable to allow this Islam into the west while being rejected in their countries.
Who to approach? Faith dialogue groups? Government officials?
This is something we can do! Thanks.
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THERE IS A GOD
written by COMMON SENCE , September 30, 2009
i can prove that "THERE IS A GOD" by mere common sence and observation as below


"All animals have tails...why??

To cover their asses

As they dont have brains to cover them with clothes

Humans dont have tails....why??

God..yes God gave humans brain to make clothes and cover their asses

Thus proven

There is a GOD out there..

faithfully yours
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Now I Get It!
written by Abdula , September 30, 2009
The Islamic miracle that Muslims speak out of their ass, but their breath smells like sh@t, proves that Alla does exist. That's why they stick their asses up in the air when they pray; to get more projection to the heavens.
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to common nonsense
written by 3X , September 30, 2009
Abe bawdi poonch,

the animals having the tails DOES prove that there is GOD, that is islamic sense, not common sense.

Have you ever heard of evolution theory? I guess no. The humans at one point had the tail (poonch) which has vanished now, but there still remains abone in humans, very promiment in a few people.
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TO 3X IDIOT
written by COMMON SENCE , September 30, 2009
abe 3x idiot

what bone has to do with tail (maybe u still have a bone in ur arse)

why this tail is not vanished in other animals with ur dads theory of evolution

im waiting for a reply dude
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written by Machmoed elchalid , September 30, 2009
very simple mind says: Every thing is pretentious in Islam.Allah is a fake
pagan god,which has never been able to prove itself.Mohammad is a fake prophet.Any prophesy by by Mohammad? Any miracles performed by him.Did he give life back to the dead?Did he make the lame walk?Did he give sight to the blind? No,Never.

Let me ask you this my friend: Can you name someone who could do this things. probably you don't know that all religiens are fake en it's fouders not real. Wake up my friend..it is true about islam but somehow you think that Christianity is from God or that Jezus and Mohammed have ever lived. This seems not to be the case my friend.
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dem bones
written by duh_swami , September 30, 2009
Common sense...Explain the human coccyx...
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written by a guest , September 30, 2009
Can you name someone who could do this things.

Yes I could, but I won't...The people who can do these things do not appear on television, they are not interviewed by Oprah...and are not interested in 'proving' anything to others. The fact is that 'you' are not capable of these things, and don't know anyone who is...However you are right that Islam and Allah are fake...
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re: Don\'t fear PEACE
written by Geowyn , September 30, 2009
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world in general and USA and Britain in particular. Why are people so frightened by this fact that they want to ban it. Truth has to dominate over falsehood.


And why is Islam growing so fast? Nothing to do with conversion, it is because muslim women knock out babies as fast as rabbits do and people are killed if they leave.
If the death penalty was no longer threatened for apostacy there would be people leaving Islam in their hundreds of thousands.
How many remain muslims because they are scared to leave? This is the peace of Islam.
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written by Someone , September 30, 2009
1. The function of a tail is not just to cover an ass. The primary function of tails are for assisting balance and mobility.
2. Just because humans can cover their asses does not automatically mean God exists, it just means we are intelligent.
3. Ever heard of that certain bone ever human has? That's right, the TAILbone.
4. Using your logic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality proves that God doesn't exist as he wouldn't have created useless attributes for the human body.
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written by Someone , September 30, 2009
What a bone has to do with a tail? You realize tails consist of bones?

Why animals didn't lose their tails? Because humans no longer walk on all fours and thus don't need a tail assisting them with balance and mobility anymore? Also, there's enough animals without tails. Take a look at gorillas. Did you know that humans have a tail while they're still an embryo?
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written by COMMON SENCE , September 30, 2009
Why animals didn't lose their tails? Because humans no longer walk on all fours and thus don't need a tail assisting them with balance and mobility anymore? Also, there's enough animals without tails. Take a look at gorillas. Did you know that humans have a tail while they're still an embryo?

so u mean if you cut cows tail she cannot walk any more what an idiotic logic

Gorrila is not a domestic animal furthermore his ass is already covered with hair

can u plz send me human embryo picture with a tail

if u dont have sensible reply plz dont make joke of urself

regards
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to someone
written by COMMON SENCE , September 30, 2009
i can believe in evolution theory and that humans originated from a single cell but then why their are no humans with 3 fingers or 1 eye or 3 eyes (similarly animals)

you know if there was a single discrepency in human structure (3 fingers instead of 5) it could not function as efficiently so there is someone who perfected the details of organism to evolve into a perfect being.

if it just originated and evolved (as is ur logic) then it would have been haphazard with humans having different nos of organs
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written by Someone , September 30, 2009
If you cut off the tail of a cow, then surely she will walk weird for the first few hours or maybe even days. A tail is designed to help the animal with balance and mobility. Cutting it off will make this harder for the animal, making them more prone to falling over or tripping. Of course it doesn't mean they won't be able to walk, the keyword here was ASSISTING. The animal will eventually adapt to having no tail, but right after losing it, it will move awkwardly.

Gorilla is not a domestic animal, so what? It's still an animal. Their ass is already covered with hair? Well guess what, the same goes for animals with tails and even for humans. You think humans don't have hair around their anus?

Need a picture of an embryo with a tail? Here you go: http://embryo.soad.umich.edu/c...10klX4.jpg

You're accusing me of having idiotic logic and making a joke of myself for not having sensible replies, yet you're the one who has the "God exists because humans have brains instead of tail" logic.
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written by Someone , September 30, 2009
Uhh there are? Some humans get born with more or less than 5 fingers. Some humans get born with one eye only, it happens.

Humans are far from a perfect being. Yes, with 3 fingers instead of 5 we would've had a lot less useful hands. However, that does not mean we are perfect. Look at wisdom teeth for an example, they serve no purpose at all and only cause trouble. If you think humans are perfect and have no room for improvement, I'd say you're easily satisfied. Humans can't fly by themselves, where are our wings? Why 2 arms instead of 4? Why don't we have fins to swim faster? Why no gills to breathe under water? Would you say that humans wouldn't be better creatures if they had all those features? Sure, in our current view you'd look like a freak but you would surely be more efficient than the humans we know now.

Also, no, evolution also teaches the idea of natural selection. Basically, that means the inefficient humans died out if they ever existed. Therefore all humans today have roughly the same natural build. Evolution is a progress that happens over thousands, even millions of years. You won't be able to really see it happening. That's why many people can't believe the theory, because they can't see it happening (ironically enough they do believe in God though, which they can't see either).
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birth rates
written by Plain Talk , September 30, 2009
Muslims are growing what you call fast, but it is the usual rate.
Too many Christian babies are aborted and many non-muslim couples choose not to have children.
Whenever there is an empty space, something always comes in to fill it.
Our denial of children is causing this to happen. We need to re-think what kind of word we are giving ourselves and any offspring that make it.
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TO someone
written by COMMON SENCE , October 01, 2009


i am glad u r accepting presence of a God (though un intentionally) Look how

1. You are accepting that animals could have evolved without having a tail and still they could walk balance and do whatever which means tail has some other purpose rather than "assisstance" or "mobility"

2. You are accepting that having "more" or "less" organs or accessorise humans would be looking like freaks. This proves that someone has shaped designed balanced beautified us into a pleasent looking figure and not "freaks"

3. You cannot base your theory on 1 in billions example. i mean if 10 humans have 3 fingers out of 6 billion (and that is also due to some disorder) our theory should be based on 6 billion people.

4. Based on "evolution theory" some or many humans should be having wings, 10 legs, fins, 3 heads and so on BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE they have been programmed to have what thay have

5. During evolution have u heard of majority humans having 1 or 3 eyes or 2 heads or 5 legs at certain point of evolution.

6. why our height stops at the age of 21 or 22, as per evolution it should continue so someone has programmed it (dont give me example of a few extra tall people out of 6 billion)

7. Can u show me some humans in the transition phase of evolution (physically) or mentally like e.g some humans have started growing wings or fins or whatever. NO
OR can u show me an APE who has started constructing his house with mud or bricks or at least he knows how to lit fire NO

so where is the evolution
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written by Someone , October 01, 2009
You don't understand the concept of evolution.

Evolution does not mean you keep evolving all the time. It means your species adapt to the circumstances in which they live. Humans never developed wings because we have no need for flying, it's as easy as that. As long as your species can survive normally, chances of "evolving" are low. Would wings make humans better? Yes. Do we need them to survive however? No way.

Even then, you're looking at drastical changes such as humans with 10 legs and fins. Humans are far too young to have had such drastic changes already.

And again, you don't understand the concept of a tail. The purpose of the tail is ASSISTING with mobility and balance. Some animals do not need this, as they don't walk on all fours all the time and thus do not need a tail to help them balance themselves. If you cut off a tail, the animal will eventually adapt and learn to live with it, just like a human who loses an arms does. The purpose of an arm is far greater than that of a tail, yet you can survive without one. Is it normal though? No it isn't.

You should carefully read what I wrote. In our CURRENT view they would look like freaks. If all humans had 4 arms, gills and wings because of evolution, you wouldn't see them as freaks as it would be normal. For a human being right now it's abnormal and thus "freaky". Also, even in humans of today not every human is pleasant looking, even though according to you they were designed to be so.

Basically, don't try to dismiss the evolution theory if you don't know how it works. I don't throw away religion either without checking what it's about first either. Evolution is a progress that species undergo when their existence is being threatened. When there is no need for evolution, it does not occur. Especially as humans, when we can develop all kinds of artificial help and shape the environments around us, evolution will become less apparent.
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written by COMMON SENCE , October 01, 2009
honetly i believe now that u r doing argument for an argument sake

1. can u explain under what environmental factors some apes kept on evolving into humans and apes present on earth now do not need further evolution. i am sure apes living in the jungles do need brick houses to save themselves from rain and attacking by other animals

2. humans are not waiting for wings or fins or 10 legs to evolve they have already invented airoplanes sub marines and robots for this purpose

3. how can u say that animals who walk with 4s need a tail for better mobility and those who do not walk on fours do not need a tail for better mobility. i think animals walking on fours do not need a tail as they are more stable on ground.

4. i am clear on this that there is SOMEONE controlling the evolution rather than "conditions out there" as per your concept otherwise we must be having humans with different nos of eyes legs penis etc

Also can u tell me the first single cell originated on earth was a male cell or female cell

5. can u explain how an apes existence was threatened (over a period of thousands or millions of years) that it has to evolve into a human OR why is that the apes now on earth are not threatened to evolve towards betterment. As i said earlier apes do need better houses for safety.

Also i would like to clarify that i dont believe in religions

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written by COMMON SENCE , October 01, 2009
as per ur concept evolution occurs when

1. there is a threat for extinction

2. there is a need to evolve further

can u please explain what was the threat or need for a part of humans to evolve as "black humans" and as "white humans"

similarly under what threat "short humans" like philipinos etc evolved and others evolved as "tall humans
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written by Plain Talk , October 02, 2009
In the last few years, if you take the time to read the published science papers of many experts in their field, there is a growing awareness that there must be intelligence behind everything.
No matter how far they go, more and more questions keep arising. More questions than answers.

They are beginning to rebel and demand that their research be given due credit. They claim their voice is being silenced and dictated to by the elite few.
In other words, they want free speech.
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written by Someone , October 02, 2009
1. They don't. They can survive perfectly in the jungle without building houses. I'm pretty sure it's the other animals that should be scared of apes, not the other way around. The only reason why it's going bad with apes is because of humans cutting down the forests.

2. Yes, exactly, and that is why it's very unlikely humans will evolve much further as we can supply our lack of certain organs which would allow us to fly or breathe underwater with artificial ones such as airplanes.

3. Ok, there's two ways to explain this to you. First of all, try walking on your arms and legs at the same time and try to tell me you're more stable than you were on your two feet. Another way to check it out, have you ever walked on a thin beam where you had to keep your balance in check? How did you do this? That's right, by shifting your weight from left to right and the other way around. What is one thing common in people walking on thin beams? That's right, they use their ARMS to help them stay in balance. If you need to use your arms to walk, you can't use them to balance yourself, hence you have a tail instead to fix it for you.

4. No, like I said, the differences would not be so drastic. But there ARE differences between human beings. Black humans and white humans have a lot of differences between them, of which many can be tracked back to their environments.

5. The apes we have right now are not the apes humans evolved from. The evolution theory tells that the apes we have right now are evolved creatures as well, they just evolved differently than us but we all came from the same "root" if you want. That's why our DNA is nearly (99%) identical.
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written by Someone , October 02, 2009
Attributing something to "intelligent design" is not a scientific way of handling things. It's just a quick fix to get an answer to things you really shouldn't have an answer for yet. There is no proof at all that there was an intelligent designer aside from the illusion that the universe is an intelligent design. If it was truly an intelligent design, it wouldn't contain so many faulty things.

Even if they will find out there was an intelligent designer behind this all, the way religions tell us about the origin of the world are false.
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written by Someone , October 02, 2009
Well, this is an easy question. The reason is: environment. Take Africa for an example. It's a very hot and barren place. Now imagine living there as a white human being without the modern items we have today. You'd constantly get skin burns, and you'd probably die young from skin cancer. That's why the humans who originate from there have black skin, with more pigment than white people. They have better protection against the sun.

Now you might ask: so why do we have white humans? What bonus does white skin give over dark skin? The answer is: none. But since white human beings weren't threatened by the effects of the sun, their bodies never developed a natural protection against it. I'm white and I'm not afraid to admit that black humans have superior genetics over us, which they have to thank to living in a barren and harsh environment for millions of years. I'm sure that if you would throw a colony of white people in Africa and let them live in there for a few thousand or even million years, they'd all develop a natural dark skin. Because you need to keep in mind, evolution of a certain attribute can take thousands or millions of years. That's why when you see white people living in sunnier countries they still give birth to white children. The difference between their skin and that of their parents is negligible but once you would compare the skin of the parents to their same bloodline but a million years later, there'd be a huge difference.
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written by COMMON SENCE , October 02, 2009
but the tail of a goat or sheep or a pig...etc is only a few centimeters (just enough to hide its arse) how can u compare it with an ARM to be used for balancing or mobility i cannot take this pill of urs.

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written by COMMON SENCE , October 03, 2009
i have been to this site and many other sites for "the purpose of tail in animals"

all animals have different functions and uses for tails like some will use tails to show their emotions some just to swash away flies like horses , monkeys use it to hang on trees some for navigation some to balance during a fall and so on.

what is clear now is that "tails function is not JUST assisstance and mobility or probably this is not the function at all as you asert.

i agree with the website that different animals use their tails for different purposes but very clearly these uses are secondary or 'helping" nature

the primary or "obvious" use will remain the same i.e "to hide the arse"
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written by COMMON SENCE , October 03, 2009
this is taken from wikipedia

Function
Animal tails are used in a variety of ways. They provide a source of locomotion for fish and some other forms of marine life. Many land animals use their tails to brush away flies and other biting insects. Some species, including cats and kangaroos, use their tails for balance, and some, such as New World monkeys and opossums, have what is known as a prehensile tail. This is a type of tail that is adapted to allow them to grasp tree branches.


Peacock in full courtship displayTails are also used for social signaling. Some deer species flash the white underside of their tails to warn other nearby deer of possible danger, and canids (including domestic dogs) indicate emotions through the positioning of their tails. Evolutionary pressures have led to the development of armored tails in some species, and some, such as the tails of scorpions contain venom.

Some species of lizard can detach ("cast") their tails from their bodies. This can help them to escape from predators, which are either distracted by the wriggling detached tail, or left with only the tail while the rest of the lizard flees. Tails cast in this manner generally grow back over time, though the replacement is typically darker in color than the original.

The tails of most birds end in long feathers called rectrices. These feathers are used as a rudder, helping the bird to steer and maneuver in flight; they also help the bird to balance while it is perched. In some species—such as birds of paradise, lyrebirds and peacocks—modified tail feathers play an important role in courtship displays. The extra-stiff tail feathers of other species, including woodpeckers and woodcreepers, allow them to brace themselves firmly against tree trunks.

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written by COMMON SENCE , October 03, 2009
the early humans were having tails i agree but obviously it was for the same reason "to hide ass" as humans were not developed enough to make clothes for them

the time humans started wearing clothes the tail was removed over time and only remains is "the coccyx" plz read below

Human embryos have a tail that measures about one-sixth of the size of the embryo itself.[1] As the embryo develops into a fetus, the tail is absorbed by the growing body. The developmental tail is thus a human vestigial structure.[2][3] Infrequently, a child is born with a "soft tail", which contains no vertebrae, but only blood vessels, muscles, and nerves, although there have been a very few documented cases of tails containing cartilage or up to five vertebrae. Modern procedures allow doctors to eliminate the tail at delivery. Some of these tails may in fact be sacrococcygeal teratomas. The longest human tail on record belonged to a twelve-year-old boy living in what was then French Indochina, which measured 229 mm (9 inches). A man named Chandre Oram, who lives in West Bengal, a state in India, is famous because of his 13-inch (330 mm) tail. It is not believed to be a true tail, however, but rather a case of spina bifida.

Humans have a tail bone (the coccyx) attached to the pelvis, in the same place which other mammals have tails. The tail bone is formed of fused vertebrae, usually four, at the bottom of the vertebral column. It doesn't protrude externally, but retains an anatomical purpose: providing an attachment for muscles like the gluteus maximus
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written by COMMON SENCE , October 03, 2009
you wrote,

"The apes we have right now are not the apes humans evolved from. The evolution theory tells that the apes we have right now are evolved creatures as well, they just evolved differently than us but we all came from the same "root" if you want. That's why our DNA is nearly (99%) identical"

Now I want to know

1. what humans look like before evolving into present day humans

2. what was the "threat" or "need" for that pre-human creature to evolve as present day humans

3. if the differencebetween pre-human creature and present humans is only the "brain development" than it should be visible in some other species as well
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written by Plain Talk , October 03, 2009
Calling it a quick fix, is layman's terms for lack of understanding.

The reasearches HAVE done their job. You certainly believed them before, when it suited your purpose to quote them. Give yourself the liberty to quote from their published papers today. Are not you the one, who claims that science is the answer for all.

Or do you now not believe in science or their findings?
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written by Someone , October 03, 2009
If I came across as saying tails were only for balance/mobility, then excuse me because that was not my goal. However, hiding your ass is not a function of a tail at all. What purpose does hiding your ass have in a natural environment? Only humans who know "shame" would want to cover their ass.

Helping with balance/mobility, or grabbing trees are the PRIMARY function of the tail in those animals. The primary function might vary per animal, but even though in the eyes of a human covering the ass of an animal might be a function in a tail, it is not. If it was the case, then why do certain animals have no tail? Humans can make clothes to cover themselves up, but gorrilas can't for example. Yes gorillas have fur on their asses, but technically speaking, so do humans.
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written by Someone , October 03, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_(genus)

Those are some sites that can enlighten you about human evolution.
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written by Someone , October 03, 2009
No, I don't believe scientists just when it suits my purpose. I believe scientists when they scientifically prove something and show the technique they used to discover said fact so we can verify it. Saying there is intelligent design IS jumping to conclusions, because you cannot know for sure that there was intelligent design if you cannot prove the existence of the supposed designer.

Also, some scientists are still religious and are often in science to prove their religion (otherwise they wouldn't stick to it after discovering all those things). Just like you have archeologists still trying to find Noah's Ark in Mount Ararat, unsuccesfully.

There have always been scientists who claimed that they discovered God existed or that stories from religion X were right, but none of them could actually come with decent facts or arguments to back them up (scientific standards of facts/arguments of course). This is nothing new and until they come with absolute proof, these claims that "there is most likely intelligent design" hold no value whatsoever.

The latest discovery I read about was some mysterious force they recently found in the universe which is supposedly exercising force on everything in the universe which would include the end of the law of gravity or Einstein's theory. Some might think this force would be God, but if God can be discovered by living human beings then he's obviously not the same God from the scriptures.
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written by Plain Talk , October 03, 2009
For humans to 'prove' something, is looking at the small picture. The tiny efforts.

Now, were they to create something. That would get my attention and I would give credence to their opinions.

Until then, I'll stick with the One who can Create.
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written by a guest , October 03, 2009
you said,

Well, this is an easy question. The reason is: environment. Take Africa for an example. It's a very hot and barren place. Now imagine living there as a white human being without the modern items we have today. You'd constantly get skin burns, and you'd probably die young from skin cancer. That's why the humans who originate from there have black skin, with more pigment than white people. They have better protection against the sun.

if u have noticed closely black humans have a different bone structure

1. their nose is wide and depressed on top

2. their lips are wide and big

3. their ass is bigger

4. their hair is curly

and so on

so its not just the skin how would you explain this?

Also please reply me on "why human growth stops at age 20 or 21" who programmed it.

and why philipinos are shorter than other humans
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written by COMMON SENCE , October 03, 2009
sorry the above is addressed to someone

i am sure middle east countries (arabia) are even hotter than africa but the humans are not black skinned???
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written by AmericanBoy , October 06, 2009
Like Jerrold I too just read "How Fatima Started Islam". This book is very funny and it shows how Islam was really founded. Mohammad was an alcoholic pimp who poorly ran Mohammad's Saloon & Brothel. It was his smart daughter who pulled the strings and ran things. Her husband Ali was the biggest homo in Arabia and the book goes on and on. It was truly a joy reading the real story. I am glad that Amazon is brave enough to do it even with opposition from the mullahs.

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