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Convert: To Be Good Muslim, I Have to Kill Unbelievers, My Family & Mother

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I found the Coran on the Internet... concluded it was the truth. This book and the traditional Muslim way of life seemed to be the good answer to our modern and decadent nations. But I found the text was very brutal, and I was very scared in my relation to God. I thought: to follow God, I have to kill unbelievers, and then, if I’m not an hypocrite, I first have to kill my family, and especially my mum... an atheist


A French convert to Islam, named David, wrote following email to Dr. Ali Sina of FFI: 

Salam Aleykum Ali Sina,

I read your testimony, and I have decided to give you mine. I believe in Islam, but I know I won’t enter paradise. Perhaps my story will help…

First I want to introduce myself. My name is Daoudah (David), I’m 35 and I live in France. I discovered Islam 3 or 4 years ago after years of agnosticism. I began to pray and look for God after professional and love deceptions. I got depressed, and in a sudden and spontaneous moment of praying, I had an ecstasy: God gave me a sign.

I first turned myself towards the message of Jesus. My father is a Jehovah Witness. The Bible was familiar to me. But I couldn’t find a religious community that would convince me. I still had doubts about the Christian interpretations of the Bible, especially the Trinity concept. I kept very anxious for months and months. I wanted to find a relation with God, but I couldn’t. I was praying all day long in my head, but felt lost. Finally I was falling in diverse sins. 

Perhaps one year later, I found the Coran on the Internet. I was really scared but concluded it was the truth. This book and the traditional Muslim way of life seemed to be the good answer to our modern and decadent nations. But I found the text was very brutal, and I was very scared in my relation to God. I thought : to follow God, I have to kill unbelievers, and then, if I’m not an hypocrite, I first have to kill my family, and especially my mum who has become an atheist, and is a painter.

For me, terrorists of 9/11 were the true Muslims. Once, in my bed, I felt a spirit entering my body, and giving me the desire of being a suicide bomber. It was very brief (two seconds perhaps), but scary enough to make me jump out of my bed and say No! to God. I was saying: no God, I don’t want a God who kills people, etc…

To be honest, I think the very true reason of my reaction was fear. And fear comes from lack of submission to God. That’s right, I had empathy for victims (and especially for my parents), but I also found this world was corrupted… I think that this empathy was a shelter to avoid God’s will. In fact, it was a form of idolatry: I was giving a cult to people and not to God. Didn’t Jesus say that his people would hate their family because of him?

When I think of that, I feel so guilty: how could I be so rebel in front of God? Fear impeded me to move forward the religion of God. I wasn’t converted, but I believed in the Coran. I was very nervous. I could find in the Coran the anger of God’s community that we can find in the Apocalypse of the Bible. During months and months, perhaps a year, I was thinking: to be a man of God, do we have to kill mother, father, and sister?

As a shelter, I was trying to find contradictions in the Coran, reading “infidel” internet sites, but nothing could make me think Muhammad could be a liar. Then, I was turning round and round, couldn’t avoid sins (fornication, smoking cigarettes), and also I was reading newborn Christian testimonies on the internet with all their miraculous events, trying perhaps to find another way of hope.

But no, it was not logical. God is fair. And so He can’t have different and contradictory religions. If He wants pure monotheism, Christianity has no place there. Finally, one night I couldn’t resist: I said the shahada and prayed like a Muslim. I felt the presence of God inside of me during one or two nights in my bed. It was very nice. But of course, how could I be in peace if my mission was to kill my mother?

That’s why I didn’t progress much in religion, feeling like a hypocrite because I still had communications with my family. Finally, my mother sent me to a psychiatric hospital for some months. I was praying five times a day in my room and studied Coran like a looser. Later, in a desperate moment I prayed the Christian “Father” prayer, and once, I even prayed Jesus. God would never forgive that.

That’s it. You know everything now. I believe in God and Islam but I’m a stupid looser who preferred to be blind instead of saving his soul. I’m feeling so empty and bad now. I often think about suicide. It’s really awful to have no hope and to have hell as a promise.

You ask for proofs about Islam. Here are mines, but of course, it is always about faith:

First about the existence of God:

  • I consider there can’t be a creation without Creator, especially a beautiful creation like Earth.
  • Human being needs God. He will necessarily ask himself about God in his life (especially in hopeless moments).
  • Human being needs to transcend his life. I think atheists have rejected God. It’s a reaction, and not a natural state.

About religions :

  • A believer will try to communicate with God and to have a relation with Him, it is natural.
  • If you believe in God, you will finally question about all that concerns Him, and so you will be curious about religions and their laws.
  • Then you will also consider monotheism, judaïsm, and of course Islam. Both heritages could also be considered like proofs of God.
  • I don’t think Coran could be a human invention. Coranic text is very impressive, and very coherent with the law of Judaïsm.
  • If you believe in hell and paradise, then religious violence on earth is nothing compared to eternal anger of God.

Some signs of God:

Coran is a miracle. But see those miracles, other proofs for people who believe:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x85hbm_miracle-le-minaret-qui-vole-et-se-p_webcam

http://miracle-de-dieu666.skyrock.com/2.html

That’s right, there are other miracles in Christian churches, but I believe they are the prodigies of the Beast. Apocalypse speaks about them.

You left Islam. How do you feel now? Do you still have hope? Perhaps it is not too late to repent… Believe me : the way I feel is really awful. You should try to pray Allah again; perhaps you will feel if He forgives you this time.

If I convinced you, then perhaps I saved a soul (with the help of God). If I convinced you, then I don’t want money for me, but I would prefer you to give that money to Muslim communities.

I would be really pleased to receive your comments about my letter. May Allah guide you.


Ali Sina's Reply:

Hello David,

We can talk about the existence God until cows come home. For the sake of this discussion and to make things less polemic I accept the premise that God exists.

There are thousands of religions and faiths that claim to show you the path to God. Every day a new faith is born. Of course not all of them are true. All but one are invented by charlatans and liars to amass wealth, but more importantly, power and narcissistic supply. Power is the loadstar of the narcissist. Narcissists would even sacrifice their own lives, let alone the lives of others, for power. Jim Jones and David Koresh are good examples.

Now, assuming God exists, what would his nature be?  Would he be a logical and a loving god or an illogical and hateful god? Any sane person would agree that God cannot be illogical and hateful. It is Satan that is illogical and hateful. (I am using religious terminologies freely and accept the premise that God and Satan are both real to make my point.)

Would the real God lie or deceive people. No! That is not logical because lies and deception are the instruments of the weak. If you are all powerful you don’t need to lie or to deceive. But according to the Quran Allah is khairul makirin (the best deceiver). You have to lie in order to deceive. So if Allah is deciever he must be also a liar. Deception and lies are not divine qualities. This assertion alone is enough to disqualify Muhammad’s Allah as God.

There are other satanic qualities that Muhammad attributes to Allah. Among the 99 names that he gave to Allah we find al-mutakabbir (the bloated), al-jabbar (the despot), al-qahhar (the subduer), al-khafid (the abaser) al-mudhell (the humiliator), al-mumit (the death giver) al-muntaqim (the avenger), ad-darr (the creator of the harmful /evil doer). Aren’t these satanic attributes?

We humans are advised to acquire divine qualities. Are these divine qualities? Is a deceitful haughty vengeful despot who humiliates people, subdues them and gives them death and destruction a good person?

Although proofs abound that Allah is not God, but a demon who seduced Muhammad, the above is more than enough to convince any sane person.

Religions tell us that Satan is a deceiver. He has no real power except the ability to deceive people who in turn will act as his instrument and do his bidding.

Let us say that God is so desperate that he is offended when humans don’t worship him. Now this is obviously a very stupid concept and a blasphemy. We humans love our pets and take care of them without any expectation from them. We won’t torture and kill a cat if he eats the food we provide for him and walks away without thanking us.  Our love for our pets is unconditional. How can God who is infinitely superior to us humans be so petty to not have the same kind of love that we humans have for our pets?  Although the whole notion that God would punish humans in such an excruciating way, like burning them and pouring boiling water on them for eternity is sheer idiocy and it takes a complete idiot to buy that nonsense,  let us accept this foolish notion also for the sake of argument.

The question that arises is why would God need humans to act as his henchmen and do his dirty work? Why he does not kill the unbelievers himself? Muhammad’s god is like a Mafia godfather. He has no real power over anything except the control over his gangsters and it is these criminals who kill people on his behalf. The powerful God does not need anyone to murder his detractors. If really God wanted to kill someone, he could do it without anyone’s help. He could stop their hearts from beating , or to make it more spectacular, he could lift them up to the sky and smash them to the ground so everyone could witness his brutal power.

You asked, “Didn’t Jesus say that his people would hate their family because of him?”

I am not a Christian but I am afraid you misunderstand what Jesus said. Muslims deliberately misinterpret his words to justify the evil teachings of Muhammad. Jesus never told his followers to hate their family because of him. He said that because of their faith they will be hated, persecuted and crucified even by their nearest and dearest. Muslims are Satan worshippers. Satan deceives people. He is Khairul Makerin. But we are endowed with a brain not to fall prey to the lies of impostors.  No! Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone. He even said, love thy enemy. You grew up with Christian teachings. How can you fall for such a blatant lie?

You say the Quran is a miracle. The only miracle is the stupidity of so many people that believe in that satanic book of filth and terror. There is no miracle – not a single miracle in the Quran. It is a pack of lies made up by a mentally sick man for very stupid people. A mule must have more commonsense than a person who reads the Quran and thinks it is from God.

You wrote, “I said the shahada and prayed like a Muslim. I felt the presence of God inside of me during one or two nights in my bed. It was very nice. But of course, how could I be in peace if my mission was to kill my mother?”

You also wrote, “For me, terrorists of 9/11 were the true Muslims. Once, in my bed, I felt a spirit entering my body, and giving me the desire of being a suicide bomber. It was very brief (two seconds perhaps), but scary enough to make me jump out of my bed and say No! to God. I was saying: no God, I don’t want a God who kills people, etc…”

Yes you are right. Terrorists are the true Muslims. But could that spirit that possessed you be possibly the spirit of God? The same loving god that created all mankind including your mother and sister and now is telling you to murder the peson who raised you and did not sleep night after night to make sure you sleep? Of course not! The moment you were deceived and said your shahadah you opened your heart to Satan. It was he who came to give you peace so you become confirmed in your deception. It was he who possessed you and told you to become a suicide bomber. Good spirits do not invade people’s bodies. They respect you and don’t violate your being. If at anytime you feel some spirit has entered you know that it is not from God no matter how you feel. It is a demonic spirit and you must seek psychological help or an exorcist.

Satan does not give a damn about your life and the lives of the people whom he wants you to destroy. Satan uses people who open their heart to him to do his evil deeds and by saying the shahada you gave him the chance to invade your body. Satan is a death giver, an abaser, a destroyer, and he is haughty. He is khairul makerin.  Once you said your shahadah you invited him to possess you. All Muslims who have uttered these satanic words are possessed by demon. That is why you see they are committings so many evil things all over the world are so miserable and dejected. Their countries are war torn and they are busy killing on another everywhere.

God gave you conscience. That conscience shouted at you telling you that God does not want you to become a murderer, but you chose to silence your conscience, the voice of God inside you, and instead let yourself to be deceived by Satan.

You already know what you said is no proof for Islam and acknowledged that “it is all about faith.”  But people can have faith in a lie too. There is no truth in Islam. I am offering $50,000 dollars since eight years to anyone who can give one sold proof in favor of Islam that I cannot refute logically, and despite the fact that this challenge is read by millions of Muslims and I have debated with hundreds, if not thousands of them, no one has been able to prove Islam is true. Meanwhile, my colleagues and I have provided thousands upon thousands of logical proofs that Islam is a lie and Muhammad was an evil monster, a demonic soul no different than Charles Manson, Shoko Asahara and Jim Jones.

Islam is from devil. That is why you feel awful. Take the Quran to a field, tear it apart and piss on it.  Make a video of what you do (without showing your face) and put it on Youtube. I promise you that you will feel instant serenity and peace and no fear will ever come to you. This simple ceremony will make Satan fear you instead and leave you alone. He will know that he can no longer deceive you. There are millions of other fools whom he can prey on, but you will be safe.

This advice is not just for David. Anyone who lives with the fear of Allah should do it. You’ll feel sudden relief. I have not done this myself because I was a rational person always and never believed because of fear.  Once I learned the truth I went through a series of emotions that I described in my testimony, but fear was not one of them. But I know of someone who overcame his fear of demon Allah by doing just that. You need to break this shackle once and for all and pissing on the Quran is a powerful symbolism that tells you, you are free. You can order a free copy of this satanic book from CAIR for this sacred ceremony. Do it fast before CAIR staff  end up in jail, now that they are exposed for trying to overthrow the government of America.  If you don’t want to destroy your Quran you may photocoy several pages of it for your pissing ceremony.

Please don’t laugh. I am very serious. The Quran is a fetish for Muslims. They fear even touching it with their left hand because that is the hand they use washing their derriere. Pissing on the Quran is like breaking an idol. The act itself may sound silly but its effect on your psyche is liberating. You will be telling your subconscious mind that you are breaking away with all the lies and setting yourself free from fear.

Humans have used ceremonies for important events, like initiation into a new religion, initiation into adulthood, wedding, graduation, etc. All these ceremonies  are reminders that something important is taking place and a new life has begun. You can piss on the Quran as the reminder that you no longer believe in lies and are not afraid of the bogyman of a psychopath.

The Old Testament is a fairy tale, even then the reason you find similarities between the Quran and the Judaic scripture is because Muhammad plagiarized that book. He, like all pre Islamic folks in Hijaz grew up listening to Biblical stories. He remembered bits and pieces of those stories and plagiarized them, often making gross mistakes like confusing Mary the mothe rof Jesus  (Maryam in Arabis) with Miriam, the sister of Moses and Aron (also Maryam in Arabis). This does not mean both books come from the same source.

You wrote, “If you believe in hell and paradise, then religious violence on earth is nothing compared to eternal anger of God.”

This is a good example of how satanic deceptions work. The deceiver bases a seemingly valid conclusion on a false premise. The belief that God has a rotisserie where he burns humans for eternity is a lie that only stupid people can believe. As I explained above, such sadistic behavior is inconsistent with the nature of God. Attributing such insanity to the creator of the universe is the gravest blasphemy.

Assuming there is a hell, who do you think is most deserving of it? The person who does not believe in God or the one who attributes insanity to God? Would you be angrier at a person who says I don’t know David or at a person who says I know David – he is a sadist psychopath, a haughty despot, a deceiver, a mischief doer and a murderer?  With the lie that God is a sadist torturer Muslims want to justify their own evilness.  But God is not a sadist and what Muslims do is satanic. To say because God is a torturer (qahhar) I am justified to be violent because I no matter how much I harm you I can never do you as much harm as God is going to do to you is a sheer deception.

Assuming God exists, an atheists can say, I am sorry dear God for not believing in you. The reason is that those who spoke of you did not have logical arguments and wanted me to have blind faith in something that made no sense. Since you gave me a brain I decided to use it and hence refused to believe in what people say without proof. Furthermore, those who believed in you did not agree even with each other so how could I know which religion is right when all of them demanded blind faith?

Since God understands reason he will be convinced that it is not the fault of rational people for not believing in him. In fact, those who believe without proof become terrorists and murderers. They do evil in the name of God. Instead of loving the creation of God they think about killing others. So atheists who did not do evil to others and did not attribute insanity to God will go to paradise, but Muslims who attributed diabolic qualities to God and accused him of being a sadist, a mass murderer, a psychopath destroyer, a humiliator, an abaser, a despot, an avenger and a harms maker /evil doer will most likely be thrown into hell for libeling God and for attributing demonic qualities to him.

Now, since if God exists, He most certainly is a merciful and companionate God he may even forgive stupid Muslims who blaspheme him. I would never take revenge of people who call me names and libble me, assuming they do not hurt me, and we know that no one can hurt God. I just ignore them. God must for sure have a lot more commonsense than me and he will most certainly not punish ignorant Muslims who believe in the lies of Muhammad and consequently blaspheme their maker. But will God forgive those fools who kill other humans? If God is just, He should punish the terrorists, otherwise he would not be a just God.

You can be as much stupid as you wish. You can even blaspheme God and call him all those shamelful names that  Muhammad called him. You can point your keister to Him in heaven five times per day and insult him in this silly way too. I am sure God will still forgive you. If I can forgive people who insult me how can a creator who is infinitely greater than me not forgive people who are infinately smaller than him?  But will He forgive you if you kill someone? Once you kill someone or harm them in any way your stupidity is no longer an excuse. You cannot say I was fooled by Muhammad please don’t sent me to hell to spend the rest of eternity with that monster.

Don’t kill your mother. Don’t kill your sister. Muhammad was a bastard liar. Don’t believe a word of that demon. Don’t do evil on earth and don’t harm people for a lie or even for what you may think is true. Just don’t harm others for any reason.

Islam is stupid. It is the most stupid cult made by a very stupid man for very stupid people. Don’t hide behind numbers. A lie is still a lie even if 1.5 billion fools believe in it. Anyone who follows Muhammad, believes in that psychopath and trusts that fool is a fool. It is okay to be a fool. God will not punish people for their foolishness, but woe to you if you do evil, commit murder, or harm another soul.

I am sending my book to you. Read it before murdering your mother and sister. It may bring you to your senses and prevent you from committing the biggest insanity of your life.


Dear reader, David has spent months in a psychiatric hospital. He may suffer from some sort of psychological disorder, maybe schizoferenia. However, as you can see from his letter, Islam has acerbated his psychological problem to the extent that he is now a real threat to himself and to others.

As I have shown in my book Understanding Muhammad, the prophet of Islam was insane. Islam is insanity. Under the influence of Islam normal people become insane, but when psychologically challenged people are influenced by Islam they become dangerous. It is like fire meeting a tank of gasoline. Fire burns everything, but a tank of gasoline explodes.

I hope David you read my book and snap out of this insanity called Islam and don’t commit a hideous crime for a sheer lie. We all make mistakes but if you commit this mistake it is irreversible. Once you realize the the gravity of your crime you can never forgive yourself and your situation will become far worse.

Read my book. It could save the lives of many innocent people and yours too. You won’t go to paradise by killing people. How much stupidity is enough? Even if you have psychological problems, which is not your fault, you know the diffrence between right and wrong. Don’t let the demonic man of the 7th century decieve you. He is in hell. Don’t hasten to meet him. Spit on his name, piss on his satanic book and leave his diabolic cult. Treat others the way you wish to be treated. This is the essense of goodness. This is what will save you and not the belief in a charltan who deceived people for his own gain and told them to murder in order to go to pardise.

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written by a guest , October 18, 2009
I found the Coran on the Internet... concluded it was the truth. This book and the traditional Muslim way of life seemed to be the good answer to our modern and decadent nations. But I found the text was very brutal, and I was very scared in my relation to God. I thought: to follow God, I have to kill unbelievers, and then, if I’m not an hypocrite, I first have to kill my family, and especially my mum... an atheist


Islam teaches one to have high respect for one's mother; the Prophet Muhammad once said that "paradise is at her feet."


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written by a guest , October 18, 2009
quran say to kill your mother?
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Why all men are not in hell, then?
written by M. A. Khan , October 18, 2009
Islam teaches one to have high respect for one's mother; the Prophet Muhammad once said that 'paradise is at her feet'.

True! And Muhammad is in hell then; because Muhammad's mother died a kafir and she would go to hell. For that reason, Muhammad refused to pray for her soul, when he was passing by her grave on the way to Mecca for a Jihad expedition.

Muhammad also said, he saw most inmates of hell were women while he peeked into it on his way to meet Allah during the miraaj journey.

Where did all the men go? To heaven? How is that possible, when most women are in hell and their children will be under their feet in hell too.
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written by NSC , October 18, 2009
Hey jackass, I read your Xanga blog, had a good laugh. If you represent "Islam taking over the world" I don't think we have very much to worry about.
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No Need for You Tube
written by No YT , October 18, 2009
Don't put it on You Tube. Even without your face showing.
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written by Anon , October 18, 2009
Assuming that Islam and Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism being true religions and possible ways to get to God. I'm not too sure about Hinduism, but I do know that in Buddhism, there are 18 levels of hell and everyone has to go to hell unless you're a saint then you won't be reincarnated. I do not have proofs but from a logical point of view, would you want to believe in a God that asks you to hate in order to get to heaven, or one that requires you to be like a saint or one that asks you to love. I believe the last is easier and guilt free. And as for atheists,well there isn't any harm believing. You not necessarily have to practice the religious beliefs, but, at least you're have hope. Blind faith it may be, but its better than an uncertain future.
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written by y.m , October 18, 2009
A great artical by Dr, Ali Sana.He is trying to save the humanity from Islamic cruelity.If you take the evil out of Islam then you left nothing.This is true that many religions are logically false,but they are not evil,Islam is not only false but also evil.This is what distingueshes Islam from other faiths.Mr, Ali sana rightly stated that Islam is a blend of paganism and twisted Old tastament stories.Yes this is possible a true muslim can kill to any blood relation if he or she become apostate.It is a condition of faith that a believer should love Allah, but this stipulation becomes insufficient because a person does not rank as believer until he loves the prophet"more than his father,his children and all mankind.(Sahih al bukhari,vol:1.The muslims who committed these crimes belived that they were justified in doing so because of vorious islamic texts and teaching.
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written by rational way , October 18, 2009
very good article , god bless you
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written by plain talk , October 18, 2009
Islam, as usual, has a nasty way of 'marriage' for women. Before any women or child is 'married' a contract is signed.

The man gives the woman a sum of money. Now this is important, she MUST accept the the money. Why is this important? Because she is signing a contract that states, he is buying her vaginia for his use at his discretion. This is legal muslim marriage.

So all muslim women are forced to sell her private parts in order to marry. Women hate this. Being turned into a saleable commodity on her so-called wedding day!

Therefore the garb of the hajib and burka are simply the apparel of the sex slave. It has nothing to do with modesty. It is just an advertisement walking around for other men to come and join. Then you too, can have bought sex slaves.

These are the most disgusting men on earth!

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Religion of cruelty, deception and poverty
written by Bravo , October 18, 2009
If you have following qualities , the islam is for you:
1) You want to kill.
2) You want to rape.
3) You want child -sex.
4) You want to do orgy with 4 women.
5) You like to have evil thoughts always.
6) You want your wife to be beatan regularly.
7) You like violence like bombing, stoning , honour killing, good flogging etc.
smilies/cool.gif You want to earn money by fooling people (become mullah).
9) You like to lie and use deception.
10) You like to do slow killing of human or animals and love the pain of others while doing slow slicing of head

These are the 10 commandments of Islam and is open ro all, no discrimination, no racims(Just arabs and sheiks are superior), recruitment at nearest mosque. Atleast 10% of all non-muslims will like the 10 commandments.

*** Must remember, once in the group of the muslims, there is no return, as muslims will share many secrets during the course of time and after knowing these secrets if you go out of the group which muslims call 'apostasy/ blashphemy', they have to kill you.
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The convert
written by balam , October 18, 2009
An excellent response by Dr.Ali Sina.May God keep allah-the demonic spirit away from him.Like David,who so ever joins this demonic cult called Islam,needs urgent psychiatric help.These Muslims are posessed but they do not realize that.Those who realise the falsehood of Islam,escape the prison of Islam to live in freedom.Muslim countries have to enforce strict Sharia laws to keep Muslims in their fold.At the death of Mohammad,so many Muslims left Islam but were brought back to the fold of Islam by force by Abu Bakr-The pimp,who gave his little girl Ayesha to the old horny prophet.
There are winds of change in the horizen in the civilized world againt Islam/Muslims and you will soon see the beginning of the end of Islam/Mohammadanism.
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Miraj of Mohammad
written by balam , October 18, 2009
Mr.M.A Khan,do you realy believe that Mohammad rode a mule with and face of a woman with make up on and flew to heaven.I have also felt like wise under those circumstance with a woman beside me.He was actually riding UMM-HANI,daughter of Abu -Talib .She had make up on her face and her backsidewas like that of a mule.With every stroke,Mohammad felt in next heaven till the climax at the seventh when he felt himself in the seventh heaven.He was a pathalogical liar.Umm-Hani confirmed that he was in bed with her all night and he never left the bed.With a woman beside you in bed all night,who would like to leave her for heaven.Only brainless Muslims could believe that cock and bull story!!!
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Pure monotheism
written by mule , October 18, 2009
I am a Christian visiting your site on a regular basis. It is very informative and interesting. I notice that David talked of Islam being pure monotheism with the implication that Christianity is "impure" monotheism. This is not true. There are no degrees of monotheism as if Islam was a higher and Christianity a lower form of monotheism. The Christian God is also one in an absolute sense as is the "Jewish God" and the "Muslim God". Of course the Trinity is not an easy concept but is an unavoidable deduction from the statements of the old and new testament about the being and names of God when all taken together. One God of one divine being and three self conscious persons each possessing this same divine being, all one with each other. Jesus said " I and the Father are one ". To talk about the relationship of family members to each other: one of the ten commandments is to honour your father and mother and another is thou shalt not kill; another commandment from the old and new testament is to love your neighbour as yourself. If our family members are not believers whatever Jesus meant by hatred is not malice or ill will toward them because Jesus said the disciple should hate his own life also. By this interpretation the disciple should also be thinking of killing himself also as well as his father and mother. "If any man come to me and hate not his father...... yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Just a little food for thought.
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written by plain talk , October 19, 2009
I would like to ask why western countries allow muslims access to children? From a very young age, they are taught to hate. By teaching children that the "others" are apes and pigs, they intentionally do damage to a young childs mind.

We need to put a stop to any fostering or adoption by muslims. Given that child sex is permited, they can not be trusted with the care of the young.

Child wefare needs to step in and monitor the well-being of any natural born children. We can not allow these savages any access of uncontrolled contact with children. This would be a early preventative measure to avoid them turning the child into another serial killer.

The time to act is now.

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Fight evil or suffer
written by Charles martel , October 19, 2009
To all non-muslims and ex-muslims, we have to fight this islamic menace relentlessly. There are many safe ways to fight islam. We can do these things atleast:
1. Email these knowledgeable islamic sites to all your contacts. To muslims use email ids which are not having your name.
2. Copy the articles and I have found a basic islam knowledge in 'islam monitor website' for printout and do mass distribution. Do ask the people who have read these articles and basic islam to pass on the copies to others.
3. Infact if you are in office or college, do discuss these sites and tell them to see movies like 'fitna' and 'submission'.Easily available in youtube and liveleak. We didnt liked 'obsession' and 'third jihad' which gave clean chit to Islam and made an artificial group called 'radical islam' and told that only 15% muslims are radical and rest 85 % are harmless. How can these 85 % be harmless, when remain muslims and read from same coran and hadiths?
4. Purchase Islam specific books written by Ibn Warraq, MAK, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Robert Spencer and make sure that many people read these. Our group have purchased 4 books by these writers and we all have read it and will pass on to others.
5. We should not target any other religion like christianity, judaism, hinduism, sikhism, buddhism etc as all other religions live a good life and live in harmonius way. Few isolated cases of distrust and quarreling are there, but which are not due to these religions.
6. Dont read or support papers or media which support Islam or muslims.
7. If possible dont go to restaurants, shops etc owned by muslims. We have to boycott them as they hate us.
8. Try to avoid muslims for work.
9. Work towards union of Athiests+christians+jews+hindus+buddhists+sikhs etc.
10. Support leaders like Geet Wilders.
11. Last but not the least support ex-muslims like Rifqa Bary etc.
Islam is an ideological disease and only way we can fight is via aggressive decimation of truth and full knowledge. Here each non-muslims is a soldier and dont think that any place on earth is safe as islam is marching forward due to poverty, more babies and living a sub-human life. They can have 5-8 children and make them starve, which we cant do.
Just like we know that snakes are poisonous and will kill humans if humans and snakes live in same habitate say in house any human take snake like cobra as pet then how much milk or rats you give the snake, it will bit you when it gets chance. Thus snakes are not allowed near human habitate and when found are caught and forced into forests or restrictive areas. Muslims should not be allowed to live in European and Western countries and must be banned immediately.

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Jesus Indeed KNew God
written by Indian , October 19, 2009
Dear friends,

there are many misconceptions about Jesus, I agree Bible is violent but Jesus Indeed new God. Most christians either have not understood Jesus or fanatical about Jesus (He is the only God), infact jesus never wrote bible, his teachings were used by roman emperors to batter jews and create a christian emperor, his discpiles were few, but somebody wrote bible, Old Testament/New Testament. He has spoken universal truths with realisations.

Infact read these books, he never said to kill or wipe civilisations on his name, convert others look down on women, i as a hindu writing this to tell where truth is there it is to be segregated from untruth, I hope you people will understand jesus much better by these books:-

Holy science - by Swami Yukteshwar Giri he with his God realisation state (achieved Nirvikalapa samadhi) had read bible, disriminated truth from untruth and put proper intepretation of Bible.
Autobiography of Yogai - Swami Paramhansa yogananda, Self Realisation Fellowship, This work of his for the God seekers will be a good reading, Translated into 21 Languages of World,used as a reference books in metaphysics in many universities of world, wonderful combination of science , science of human body and God.
Jesus Travelled to India/ Lost years of jesus

God and Jesus should not be looked from narrow vision of sectarianisn which has infected present century. If Jesus travelled to india to get again training from three rishis, if is because of eternal and unchangeable universal Laws.
There is no miracle laws governing universe and Nature are eternal and unchangeable.


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Stop the spreading of Islam!
written by Anon , October 19, 2009
Dear westerners,

I strongly urge all westerners to put an end to Islam. I live in a Muslim country and any activities which are considered threats against Islam or it's believers are either banned or boycoted ( they tried to ban beyonce and rihanna). Thus teling Muslims that their religion is a load bullocks is a crime and will result in being sentenced to prison. Not having opportunities to share such information publicy, I hope that anyone who is free from the Islamic laws to stop Islam in it's tracks. Mr. Martel and dr. Ali both have strong points and suggestions. Please enlighten be blind.
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To Indian
written by Archpagan , October 19, 2009
Jesus Christ is an obscure historical figure. From my professional experience of dealing with crimes and criminals, I feel Jesus was an ariculate man, who wanted to establish an authority parallel to the king through suave persuation. Naturally, he incurred wrath of the king who sentenced him to death. His disciples followed in his footstes till date, engaging kings and democratic states in power struggles. Thus, in the past we saw tussle betwwen kings and popes, now we see padris claiming rights to convert poor Hindus by doling out rice, holding the laities in Nagaland and Mizoram in vice like grips.
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written by to archpagan , October 19, 2009
Before you open your mouth please study the New testament.You alleged that Jesus wanted to established the authority.But Juses said,my kingdom is not of this world.As for the conversion of hindues concern this is the last commendment of Lord Jesus the Christ to preach the good news to all creaction including Hindus.When Padries preachs the good news to non-christians they obey the commandment of their Lord.Don,t worry truth will set you free.Free from sin.
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to David
written by tanstaafl , October 19, 2009
Buddhism teaches us to "do good and resist evil". Follow your instincts. Killing infidels is wrong.

I am sure if you examine other faiths you will find that they too will advise you to do good and not to kill others simply because their faith differs from yours.

Islam (in my opinion more of a political system than a religion) is the only faith that requires its believers to make unbelievers convert to Islam, live as slaves (dhimmis) or die.

Resist this evil.
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Where Love Lives
written by WLL , October 20, 2009
"But of course, how could I be in peace if my mission was to kill my mother?"

Your mother loves you and you love her. God lives where love lives. Your heart knows the real evil would be to kill your mother. A religion that expects you to kill your mother because she is an unbeliever, is no religion worth following. It did not save you from hell, but created hell on earth for you.

Your mother who carried you safe in her womb. Your mother who loved you as an infant taking care of all your needs. Your mother who was there for you growing up. Your mother who is there for you now.

God is there in the love your mother has for you, and the love you have for your mother.

If you are able and interested, I would recommend you read "Violence and Compassion - Dialogues on Life Today" by Tibet's Dalai Lama
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if i want oprgy with my wife and girlfriend i am a
written by if i want oprgy with my wife a , October 20, 2009
if i want oprgy with my wife and girlfriend i am a muzzie ???
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Mother
written by non believer , October 20, 2009
If at all there is God, It has to be the mother. Even if you kick or kill her she would wish you well. Stop looking for God. Love your mother. Let God enjoy his pastime of burning infidels in hell fire and rewarding Sex crazy violent pedophiles with 72 houris. Is some body who gets angry if you fart, or see a woman when you pray, and sends you to hell fire worth worshiping?
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written by RS , October 20, 2009
As Ali Sina has mentioned the above , the man has significant mental health problems. It will be quite reasoable to say that he has chronic depression with psychosis. He does have hallucinations and delusions of grandiose. the most recent DSM clasify it as bipolar illness. The person suffering from it tries desperately to make of the sense of world arround him through this haze of thoughts, delusions and hallucinations. when very ill , for him what he experience is his reality. Throw in quran in this mental muddle and we have recipe for disaster because as an muslim one can justify insanity as the way of God as long as it is perperated against inidels and on odd occasion against any muslim who beg to differ .
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From the Bible
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
LUKE 14:25-26 (New International Version)
25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters— yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
27 And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

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From the Bible
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
MATTHEW 10:34 (New International Version)
32"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also
acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. 34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn 'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law - 36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'

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written by Asus , October 21, 2009
SEM you did a nice job but rather than isolate this verses read the context surrounding this statements.
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To SEM
written by Asus , October 21, 2009
Jesu by this verses tell us that the gospel he is bringing is not just going to cause mere pacifism. It will laso cause division, tensions between people who are closely related. Look at the case of Rifqa Bary what jesus said has been fulfilled. Her acceptance of the gospel has caused a 'sword' to go between her and her father. Many muslims who have come out of Islam will give you many tales of hardhip they had to undergo because of acceptance of the gospel. Jesus as a great mind foresaw this. The hatred you mentioned doesn't mean enmity it means a prefernce. If Rifqa Bary did not 'hate' her father she would have clung to Islam rather than face Jesus. The actions of a person speak louder than his words. It seems as easy task to brilliantly manipulate the words of Jesus but look at his actions. His disciples had realtives e.g Simon's brother was Andrew. Simon had a wife and mother-in-law to cater for. Jesus never told them to hate this people. He even healed Simon's mother when she had a disease(If he wanted the disciples to hate their relatives he should have allowed Simon's mother in-law to die of her fever). If Jesus wanted them to hate their lives then he was advising them to commit suicide-which is very bad. I think the translators of that version should have been sensitive to the existence of anti-Christians. Read contextually and you would see that Jesus wanted the disciples to take the gospel of salvation and hope with a higher priority than their lives, families and relations. Try go through the books of Acts and you will see how the apostles e.g Paul 'hated' their lives( they did not count their lives even when preaching th gospel was dangerous). Paul forsook his sexual desire so to make it easier for him to spread the gospel. This is the cross and 'hate' Jesus had in mind.
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TO SEM
written by Asus , October 21, 2009
Jesus is telling us that he requires a strong level of dedication to be his disciple. Don't forget to read Matt 10:39. He who finds his life wil lose it and he who loses his life for my sake will find it. Jesus tells his disciples that they should be ready to lose their lives in the cause of preaching the gospel. I feel ashamed of myself when I think of missionaries who have left my country Nigeria or their excellent places of abode e.g USA, Canada, UK to preach in poverty stricken war torn countries like Somalia. Sudan etc. Some even go as far as Saudi Arabia where mere sighting of a person witha Bible may be 'a stamp on his death certificate'. How do you define this Christians do you think they love their father, brothers, wealth, ease of life more than Jesus. They clearly hate their lives, father, mother, brother for the sake of the gospel. I am a Nigerian and I know how many white missionaries were massacred by my ancestors when the gospel was brought to us. Mosquitoes killed many , others were boilede by the natives. This missionaries came from Britain and co they could have 'saved time and lives' as muslims to by just conquering and enforcing Christianity on us(Dont forget Britain was a world power then. Their sacrifice pays today as we have over 70 million Christians in Nigeria now. I read a true story of a Christian woman fronm the era when Christians were oppressed in the Roman empire, when they were fed to lions etc. This woman was caught by the Roman authorities who tortured her to renounce Christianity after seeing that their harsh torments got them nowhere they decided to bring her father who should be in his eighties. The father begged the woman to renounce Christ so as to save him. The Roman soldiers pulled out strands of beard fron the old man's goatee and blood flowed out withtears in his eyes he begged his daughter to renounce Christianity, the soldiers tortued the father more so that the woman would pity her father and renounce Christ. but she didn't. Eventually he died. The woman also had a baby who was just suckling and milk still flowed from her breasts. She was stripped naked in front of the whole theatre filled with thousands of spectators. She was given a last chance to renounce Christ so that she could save her Baby and herself. She clung to Christ. In the end she recieved so much torture andas the sword was brought near her troat she gladly aided the hand of the executioner to kill her so she could leave the earth quickly. SEM what do you think about this woman. Didn't she 'hate' her father,her baby and her life. These are the types of disciples Jesus sought and in Matt10:39 he promises them that they would find the life which they lost for his sake. Life as become alot easier for Christians in many Western countries they have forgotten the blood price millions of Christians had to pay for Christianity to become what it is today. As such modern Christians have time to engage in so much luxuries, they have time to split denominations, etc. Most people love accusing Christians of the Crusades and the Inquisition they forget about the millions of legendary martyrs Christians have produced. They forget that Christianity is founded on the blood of Christian matyrs from Jesus to modern day evangelist in Islamic/Asian nations. I acknowledge that what those Christian crusaders did was bad but the Crusades can actually be seen as a reactionary response to the usurption of Christian land by Muslim armies. Over 2/3 of the Christian world was already conquered by muslim armies. I really don't blame the crusaders. The Crusades helped slow down Islamic invasion even though at the end Christians still lost Jerusalem. How many Muslims died under persecution in their societies because of their faith/. I bet it cant be up to half that of Christians. Instead the Muslim road to matyrdom is through war. If you kill on the battlefield you go to Jannat(heaven), if you die on the battlefield you also go to jannat. But the real Christian doctrine is if you die in the cause of spreading the gospel their is the hope of resurrection and everlating life. I recently realized something you can 'read out' whatever you want from the Bible. Some men can use it to justify violence, others see the power and love of Christ but all these holy bookse.g Quran, Bible etc there are certain doctrines that you can't evade. The overall message of Jesus that is love for man and true relationship can't be evaded. The overall message from Muhammed, Allah and the Quran is submission to the dictates of Allah and hatred for the unbelievers can't be evaded.
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From the bible
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
DEUTERONOMY 13:6-10
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

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From the bible
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
Don’t associate with non-christians. don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them.
2 JOHN 1:10
10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

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From history
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
You speak about crusaders from your point of view I don't see it the same way.
You forget genocide of american indians by catholics in the middle age. The pope apologized for that.
You forget that european colonialism bombed and stole africamns lives and goods the missionnaries came with "bread" and "hope" !!!
Take a look at this and tell me where is peace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_persecutions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition


Exodus 22:20
20 "Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.


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From the News
written by SEM , October 21, 2009
See sexual crimes of religious leader, They're breaking lives of innocent and it continues.

ABC News : $12.7 Million Priest Sexual Abuse Settlement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QG-jnCNo6Q

Sex Offenders @ World Youth Day WYD08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ1PMdr0RBU&feature=related

A survivor of child abuse by the Sisters of Mercy speaks out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrEzjXwTNw&feature=related

Ireland's Greatest Tragedy child abuse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bEBzUYiDs&feature=related

Priest Accused of Sexual Assault is HIV Positive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXSUT_-7V0&feature=fvw

Clerical Abuse in the Catholic Church in Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvtng1OzKak&feature=related
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written by Fullofflies , October 22, 2009
A true mohammadan muslim will go on killing
unbelivers untill nobody around to believe....
muhammad islam.

Can somebody tell me frankly that if you are force
by the sword, to join an organization, will you have
a high opinion of the president or chairman of the
organization...

The rules of personal behaviour based on the belief
that every person should always be very good and
honest...

Was muhammad a man of high moral principles......???

The Authors of the Koran, Hadith or Sira.....
have wriitten and translated what happened
1400 years ago, in today highly educated
people in the world, where three quater of the world
population are educated and one quater
of uneducated mohammad muslim........

The Enlightenment period in the eighteenth
century when many writers and scientists believed
that science and knowledge, not religion, could
improve people lives...


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Nonsense
written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
Just to answer the writer of the article, here is the verse 29:8

" We have enjoined on man kindness to parents: but if they (either of them) strive (to force) thee to join with Me (in worship) anything of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not. Ye have (all) to return to Me, and I will tell you (the truth) of all what ye did.

and also 31:14 and 15

"And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail uppon travail did his mother bear him, and in year twain was his weaning: (hear the command) Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) goal.
But if they strive to make thee to join with Me things of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not; yet bear them company in this life with justice (and consideration), and follow the way of those who turn to Me (in love) In the End the return of you all is to Me, and I will tell you the truth (and meaning) of all that ye did."

Well that is from our Quran, if you have a proof of what you say about being ordered to kill your parents, then please let me know of it, rather than just talking without proof.

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written by A.B. , October 30, 2009
Bipolar.....hmmmmm, well what i know about the bipolar disorder is that the affected person must have an episode of mania that lasts for at least 6 months, and I have never heard of our prophet drinking or making jokes or wearing colorful clothes and flirting with women during his life time. And when you say depression, I think you don't mean that one associated with suicide and anhydonia!! We never heard of the prophet trying to suicide, and if he had anhydonia then could he fight for his homeland and regain it, and summon people to his religion and make it grow.
Please review your DSM and try finding out how ill you are rather than talking nonsense please.
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Answer to SEM
written by Mule , November 03, 2009
SEM quotes passages from the Old Testament. This was at the time of the theocracy of Israel and some of these punishments do not apply any more as Jesus shows for example with regard to adultery. It is ironic that the two examples that SEM provides prove that he is interpreting the Bible wrongly by considering the texts in isolation from one another and outside their own historical context. In the Jewish theocracy the apostate was stoned as in Deuteronomy. In the kingdom of God in the form of the church the apostate or false teacher is ostracised or at worst excommunicated, both non-violent responses and forms of punishment. The very text that SEM quotes ,2 John 1v10 , proves this. This passage does not refer to non believers but to those who profess to believe in Christ for salvation but hold to erroneous beliefs about Him. The theocratic form of the Kingdom of God was only necessary to prepare for the coming of Jesus the messiah. After Jesus had accomplished his work it was dismantled once and for all time and some of the laws that supported that framework were no longer required to hold it in place. Redemptive history shows a progression in the unfolding of God's plan of salvation for the world. Legalistic religions like Islam will always want to set up some kind of theocracy but God has already moved on to better things long ago. As Jesus said we should not put new wine in to old wineskins, no offence intended!
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