Geert Wilders' great speech at the Columbia University...
Ladies and gentlemen, it is a privilege and a great honour for me to speak at this fine academic institution, which gave the world so many Nobel Prize winners. As a Dutchman, I am proud that your first Nobel laureate, in 1906, was of Dutch descent: The youngest President of the United States: Theodore Roosevelt.
I thank Columbia University for inviting me, and I also thank the US border police for allowing me to enter this great country of democracy, liberty and free speech. Ladies and gentlemen, today, the dearest of our many liberties is under attack all throughout Europe. Free speech is no longer a given. What we once considered a natural element of our existence, our birth right, is now something we once again have to fight for.
I would not qualify myself as a free man. 5 years ago I lost my personal freedom. Since then I am under 24-hour police protection. In addition some people tried to rob my freedom of speech: A Dutch Islamic organization tried to stop the appearance of my documentary 'Fitna'. Because of 'Fitna' the most radical Dutch imam claimed 55.000 Euros in compensation for his hurt feelings. The State of Jordan is possibly going to issue a request for my extradition, to stand trial in Amman. I have been charged in France.
In my own country, the Netherlands, the Amsterdam Court of Appeal overruled the decision of the Dutch public prosecutor not to prosecute me. So, now I have to stand trial in my own country, next January.
But, it is not about me. I am not the only European who fights for freedom of speech, there are so many more: The Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard made a Muhammad-cartoon and all of a sudden we were in the middle of the so called 'Danish cartoon crisis'. The Italian author Oriana Fallaci had to live in fear of extradition to Switzerland because of her book 'The Rage and the Pride'. An Austrian politician, Susanne Winter, was sentenced to a suspended prison sentence because she spoke bluntly about the prophet Muhammad. The Dutch cartoonist Gregorius Nekschot was arrested by 10 police men because of his drawings. And the Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered in the streets of Amsterdam by a radical Muslim.
Last February, I was invited by 2 brave members of the British House of Lords - Lord Malcom Pearson and Baroness Caroline Cox - to show 'Fitna' in the British Parliament. But upon my arrival at Heathrow airport I was denied entry into the UK, on grounds that I would threaten community harmony and therefore public security.
Of course that was a ridiculous and politically motivated claim by the UK government. I was allowed to show 'Fitna' and deliver a speech in the US Senate, in New York, in Florida, in California, in Copenhagen, in Rome, in Jerusalem and next month in the Senate of the Czech Republic. But the British government refused my entrance into the UK, a fellow EU-country. Well, I think it was a splendid American idea, back in the 18th century, to kick the British out.
Last week, my appeal against the refusal by the British government, took place in London; and I won. Freedom finally prevailed! A UK Court ruled that the decision of the British Home Secretary to ban me was unjust, illegal and a violation of freedom of speech. Fortunately the British judges are a lot wiser than the British government. So, last Friday I went to London and met with my friends Lord Pearson and Baroness Cox and we agreed to show 'Fitna' in the House of Lords, next March.
But let me tell you what also happened during our press conference. A Muslim mob demonstrated outside, shouting: "Shariah for the Netherlands", "Enemy of Islam Geert Wilders deserves capital punishment", "Freedom go to hell" and "Islam will dominate the world". Welcome to Europe today!
You can see all this for yourself on YouTube. This is exactly what we are fighting against. And it gets even worse. A few days ago British newspaper The Daily Telegraph reported that an Islamic group indeed launched a campaign to impose shariah law in Britain, they will meet later this month in London for a procession to demand the full implementation of shariah law.
Before I want to speak about Islam, I first would like to say this: I have nothing against Muslims. There are many moderate Muslims. The majority of Muslims in our Western countries are law abiding people, who want to live a peaceful life. I know that. Therefore, I make a clear distinction between the people and the ideology, between Muslims and Islam.
What is happening in Europe should not come as a surprise. The reality is that where Islam roots, free speech dies. There is not a single Islamic country in het world where people are really totally free to say what they think. Ever since the so called prophet Muhammad ordered his men to kill the poet Asma bint Marwan, the brave woman who warned her people against this murderous cult, radical Muslims think they have a license to kill anyone, who dares to criticize Muhammad's word or actions. Free speech is Islam's enemy. Islam is a threat to the Europe of Socrates, Voltaire and Galileo.
As I said, there are many moderate Muslims. But there is no such thing as a moderate Islam. Islam's heart lies in the Koran. The Koran is an evil book that calls for violence and murder - Sura 4, Verse 89 and Sura 47, Verse 4 -, terrorism - Sura 8, Verse 60 - and war - Sura 8, Verse 39. The Koran describes Jews as monkeys and pigs - Sura 2, Verse 65 / Sura 5, Verse 60 and Sura 7, Verse 166. It calls non-Muslims liars, miscreants, enemies, ignorant, unclean, wicked, evil, the worst of creatures and the vilest of animals.
The problem is that the provisions in the Koran are not restricted to time or place. Rather, they apply to all Muslims, from all times. Apart from the Koran, there is also the life of Muhammad, who fought in dozens of wars, who spread Islam with the sword, sold imprisoned women and children as slaves, who was in the habit of decapitating Jews and who married and consummated the young girl Aisha before she was ten years of age. The problem is that, to many `Muslims, Muhammad is 'the perfect man', whose life is the model to follow. But the facts show that the so called Prophet was not a perfect man but a murderer and a pedophile. And inspired by him jihadists with the promise of a carnal paradise slaughtered innocent people in Washington, New York, Madrid, London, Amsterdam, Bali and Mumbai.
Ladies and gentlemen, some time ago an interview was held in France with the French Muslim student Mohamed Sabaoui, who said the following, and I quote: "Your laws do not coincide with the Koran, Muslims can only be ruled by shariah law", and "we will declare the town of Roubaix an independent Muslim enclave and impose shariah law upon all its citizens, and "we will be your Trojan Horse, we will rule, Allah Akbar". End of quote.
Make no mistake: Islam has always attempted to conquer Europe. Spain fell in the 8th century. Constantinople fell in the 15th century. Vienna and Poland were threatened, and now, in the 21st century, Islam is trying again. This time not with military armies, but through migration and demography.
For the first time in world history there are dozens of millions of Muslims living outside the Dar al-Islam, the Islamic world. Europe now has more than 50 million Muslims. It is expected that one fifth of the population of the European Union will be Muslim within 40 years.
In 1974 no one took the Algerian President Boumédienne all too serious when he said to the UN general assembly: "One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere of this planet to burst into the northern one. But not as friends. Because they will burst in to conquer, and they will conquer by populating it with their children. Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women". End of quote.
And Libyan dictator Gaddafi said: "There are tens of millions of Muslims in the European continent and the number is on the increase. This is the clear indication that the European continent will be converted to Islam. Europe will one day be a Muslim continent". End of quote.
Indeed Gaddafi is telling the truth here, through the Islamic concept of migration - called Al Hijra - Europe is in the process of becoming Eurabia. In Europe churches are emptying out, whereas mosques are shooting up like mushrooms. Muhammad is the most popular name among boys in many European cities. Medieval phenomena as burkas, honor killings and female genital mutilation are becoming more and more prevalent. In the UK, by now 85 shariah law courts are active, the same country where Islamic organizations asked to stop the commemoration of the Holocaust, and a minister is pleading to change the Red Cross logo, because it might offend Muslims. In Austria, history teachers avoid teaching on the Austrian wars against the Islamic invaders. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire. In Norway, children are made to sing Islamic songs as "Allah Akbar" and "Little Muslim, do you pray?" In Belgium, a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. The rise of Islam also means the rise of shariah law in our judicial systems. In Europe we have it all: Shariah testaments, shariah mortgages, shariah schools, shariah banks, as I said in the UK there are even 85 shariah courts. Islam regards shariah law to be above all man-made laws, including our constitutions. As you know, shariah law covers all areas of life, from religion, hygiene and dietary laws, to dress codes, family and social life and from finance and politics to the unity of Islam with the state. Shariah law does not recognize free speech and freedom of religion.
According to shariah law, killing apostates is a 'virtue', but the consumption of alcohol is a crime. The introduction of shariah law elements in our societies creates a system of legal apartheid. Shariah law systematically discriminates groups of people. I never understood why the leftish and liberal politicians are ignoring all this. Historically they were the ones fighting for the rights of women, gays, non-believers and others. All groups that would be the first to pay a high price if and when Islamic values would become dominant. Their silence is frightening. Now, I am fighting their fight. I fight to protect those groups. I fight against the Islamization of our societies and therefore for the protection of the rights of women, homosexuals, Christians, Jews, apostates, non-believers and kafirs: the non-Muslims. I want to protect these victims for shariah law. And we all should. If we ignore the problem it will not go away, if we don't act now, shariah will be implemented more en more, slowly but gradually and that would mean the end of freedom of speech and democracy in Europe. This is what is at stake, nothing less than our freedom and democracy.
And please make no mistake: Islam is also coming for America. Last July, during a conference in Chicago, organised by Hizb-Ut-Tahrir, the international movement aiming to create an Islamic state under shariah law across the world, the American imam Jaleel Abdul Adil promised to fight "until Islam becomes victorious or we die in the attempt". When asked: "Would you get rid of the United States Constitution for shariah?" he answered: "Yes, The Constitution would be gone".
America is facing a 'stealth Jihad', the Islamic' attempt to introduce Shariah law bit by bit. Allow me to give you a few examples of Islamization in the United States: Muslim taxi drivers at Minneapolis airport refused over 5,000 passengers because they were carrying alcohol; Muslim students are demanding separate campus housing; Muslim women are demanding separate hours in gyms and swimming pools; schools are banning Halloween and Christmas celebrations - indeed, schools are taking pork off their cafeteria menus to avoid offending Muslim students. Ladies and gentlemen, be aware that this is only the beginning. If things continue like this, you will have the same problems as we are currently faced with in Europe.
It is my opinion that Islam is more an ideology than a religion. To be precise, Islam is a political, totalitarian ideology, with worldwide aspirations, just like communism and fascism, because like those ideologies Islam does not intend to assimilate in our societies but wants to dominate and submit us all. In Islam there is no room for anything but Islam. I think the great Winston Churchill was fully right when he, in his book The Second World War, called Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf the new Koran of faith and war.
But, ladies and gentlemen, Islam is not the only problem. There is a second problem, a problem that is called cultural relativism. Our entire Western elite, whether they are politicians, journalists or judges, has lost its way. Their sense of reality has vanished. Those cultural relativists believe that all cultures are equal. They think that the Islamic culture is equal to our culture which is based on Christianity, Judaism and Humanism. Our culture adheres to freedom, human rights and the equality between men and women and not to violence and hatred.
To the cultural relativists, I proudly say: Our Western culture is far better than the Islamic culture. And we should be proud of that and defend it. Unlike most countries where the Islamic culture is dominant, we have a rule of law, a democracy, a functioning parliament, freedom of speech and a constitution that protects us against the government.
It is clear that not everyone sees the danger. I quote a prominent American, who recently won a Nobel Prize: "Throughout history, Islam had demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance", and "Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism, it is an important part of promoting peace", and "We celebrate a great religion, and its commitment to justice and progress". End of quote. I strongly have to disagree with this assessment. Islam has nothing in common with tolerance or peace or justice!
President Obama also celebrated the fact that when the first Muslim-American was elected to Congress, he took the oath using the same Koran that one of the Founding Fathers - Thomas Jefferson - kept in his personal library. It is interesting to know that Thomas Jefferson in 1801 was about to wage war against the Islamic 'Barbary' states of Northern Africa to stop the pillaging of ships and enslavement of more than a million Christians.
The ambassador of these Muslim nations told Thomas Jefferson and John Adams that Muslims find the justification for their slaughter and enslavement of kafir in the Koran. Now I ask you, dear friends, could it be that Thomas Jefferson did not keep a copy of the Koran because he admired Islam but because he wanted to understand the ruthless nature of his enemies?
Ladies and gentlemen, I believe in democracy, I believe in the American people and the choices it makes, and normally, as a politician from Holland, I would never judge your President. But these remarks of President Obama, do not only affect America, but Europe too. I am afraid that President Obama's remarks could be a turning point in history. I fear that serious geo political changes are looming, changes that will alter our foreign policies, our view on free speech, changes that will alter the West, our way of life, and for the worse and not for the better.
In a matter of fact, it is already happening right now. Recently the United States joined Egypt in sponsoring an anti-free speech resolution in the UN Human Rights Council. You know that council that itself is an insult to human rights since the worst human rights offenders of the world like Cuba, Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan are members. The Obama-administration and Europe supported a resolution to recognize exceptions to free speech to any negative religious stereotyping. This appeasement of the non-free Arab world is the beginning of the end. An erosion of free speech and your own First Amendment. This UN resolution is an absolute disgrace.
As Professor Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University yesterday so rightfully stated in the newspaper USA Today, and I quote: "Criticism of religion is the very measure of the guarantee of free speech - the literal sacred institution of society" - end of quote. That the weak leaders of my own continent Europe supported such a terrible resolution does not come as a surprise to me. But it's a sad thing that for the first time in history, the American administration has taken a leading role against our right to free speech.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is one Western country that has been forced to fight the forces of jihad for its values since the very first day of its existence: Israel, the canary in the coal mine. Let me say a few words about that wonderful country. I had the privilege of living in Israel. However, in Europe being pro-Israel makes you an endangered species. Israel is a beacon of light in an area - the Middle East - that is pitch black everywhere else. Israel is a Western democracy, while Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Egypt are medieval dictatorships.
The so-called 'Middle East conflict' is not about land at all. It is a conflict about ideologies; a battle between Islam and freedom. It is not about some land in Gaza or in Judea and Samaria. It is about Jihad. To Islam the whole of Israel is occupied territory. They see Tel Aviv and Haifa as settlements too.
I am very much in favor of a two-state solution. I mean Churchill's 1921 two-state solution, when Palestine was partitioned in a Jewish and an Arab part. Arab Palestine is now called Jordan, and therefore, there is already a Palestinian state. With eighty percent of the population having roots on the other side of the Jordan, there is no doubt Jordan is truly the state of Palestine.
Islam forces Israel to fight, and Israel is not just fighting for itself. Israel is fighting for all of us, for the entire West. Just like those brave American soldiers who landed in Sicily in 1943 and stormed the Normandy beaches in 1944, young Israeli men and women are fighting for our freedom, our civilization.
Ladies and gentlemen, Europe ought to fully back Israel to the hilt in its relentless fight against those that threaten it, whether it is Hezbollah, Hamas or a nuclear Iran. Also, because of its history, Europe certainly has the moral obligation to prevent at all cost another Holocaust against the Jewish people. But most important of all: Israel is fighting the jihad that is meant for all of us. So we all should defend Israel. We all are Israel.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is good news also! Europe might slowly be awakening. More and more people are fed up with cultural relativism and politicians ignoring the negative effects of mass-immigration and the creeping Islamization of Europe. During the European elections last June the worst cultural relativists, the socialists, lost nearly everywhere: In the Netherlands, in Belgium, in Germany, in Austria, in France, in Spain, in Italy and, perhaps best of all, in the UK.
But, my party, the Dutch Freedom Party was the winner in the recent elections for the European Parliament. Right now, in the polls, we even are number 1. If there would be elections in the Netherlands tomorrow, whether you like it or not, I could very well become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.
Ladies and gentlemen, time is running out, we need to act. As I already said, we need less Islam, and more freedom. We have to protect our most important right, our right to free speech. We have to protect our liberties. That is why I propose the following measures, measures to preserve our freedom:
First. We have to end all forms of cultural relativism. For this purpose we need an amendment to our Western constitutions stating that our cultural foundation is the Judeo Christian Humanistic culture, and not Islam.
Second. We have to stop the mass immigration from Muslim countries. Because more Islam means less freedom.
Third. I have a clear message to all Muslims in our societies: If you subscribe to our laws, our values and our constitutions you are very welcome to stay and we will help you to assimilate.
But, if you cross the red line and commit violent crimes or the implementation of shariah law and start practicing jihad, you are not welcome anymore, then we will expel you if possible the same day.
Fourth. We have to strengthen our laws regarding freedom of speech. In Europe we urgently need some kind of American First Amendment. And we have to resist UN-resolutions that intend to weaken our right of free speech in another attempt to appease the Islamic world.
Fifth, last but not least. We have to elect brave leaders. Real leaders. We enjoy the privilege of living in a democracy. Let us use that privilege by replacing weak leaders with heroes. Let us have fewer Neville Chamberlains and more Winston Churchills! In short, ladies and gentlemen, my main message of today is that we have to start fighting back. No defence, but offence. We have to fight back and demonstrate that millions of people are sick and tired of losing, of giving in, of appeasing. We must make clear that millions of freedom loving people are saying: enough is enough.
Ladies and gentlemen, I leave you with this: I will never give in nor give up. And we should never surrender nor compromise about freedom, the most important right we still have in our free western societies. We have to win, and I am confident: we will win! Thank you very much.
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written by Scrutator , October 27, 2009
written by Clement Hore , October 27, 2009
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A. DO THE ARABS (THE DECENDANTS OF ISHMEAL)ANY PORTION IN THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT?
1. Mohammed an Arab who claim to be a descendant of Abraham through Hagar’s son Ishmael the Egyptian has a covenant relationship with Yahweh the God of the Jews who happen to be the Almighty God of all creation is it true? God’s covenant relationship with the Jews in preparation for the Messiah (Yashua)also known as Jesus span over 2600 before Mohamed came and in all these years the Arabs remained Idol worshipers without a prophet why? All true prophet had been from one race the Jews and ever remained so until Christ with a universal gospel, why? It was because salvation is of the Jews John 4:22. Besides Mohammed could not prove beyond any reasonable doubt that God had cancelled His everlasting Covenant with the Jews and replace it with another covenant through the Arabs. Gen 17:19, 21:12 Gen 21:21, 25:1-3 Ichr 1:28, 32 The argument that Ishmael being the first son entitled him to the covenant has no biblical support not even the Koran lay claim to that.Q28:46 The choice of Isaac as the seed of the promise is God’s prerogative so also the choice of Jacob and not Esau and Joseph as the preserves of the lives and not Rueben and Judah, David through whom the Messiah should come (Jesus Christ.) After the Messiah Jesus no prophets is expected but all prophets and prophesies are to align with the message of Christ if not it is Antichrist and false prophesy. Heb 1:1-3 1Jn2:18,22,4:1-3,15-16 2Jn 7 Matt 24:11 It is a contradiction in terms to accept Jesus as the Messiah and still claim to be a Messenger with a different message as Mohammed did. At a point he claims to be the expected Messiah by the Jews after he had agreed that Jesus was the Messiah. what an irony!
B. DID MOHAMMED KEEP THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AS A PROPHET OR A MESSENGER OF GOD?
By taking each of the Ten Commandments in the light of Mohammed acts and deeds, the test of obedience to God’s commandments as a messenger of God will be addressed.
2. Mohammed is made a partner with God in matter of Sha’adah the confession of faith. You cannot believe in the oneness of God without believing in Mohammed as messenger of Allah. So the monotheism taught by the Jews and Christians is set aside. Allah and Mohammed are inseparable, Mohammed is Allah Q 4:150-151 Q4:80 Tabari (contains Islamic hadith chronologically) IX: 187 states “Bakr saw that Umar would not listen. He went forward. ‘Those people who formerly worshipped Muhammad must know that the deity you worshipped is dead.’ ” He command pilgrims to go around Ka’aba as Pagans did before Islam. Q2:158 This is not monotheism. This is against the first Commandment of God Ex 20:2 ‘ thou shall have no other God before me ‘
3. Mohammed command his followers to prostrate and bow down to a black stone facing ka’aba in the daily prayers Q2:144 This is against Gods commandment No 2 Ex 20:4-5 ‘thou shall not make graven image in heaven or earth or bow to them’
4. In Sha’adah Mohammed said the name of the Almighty God is Allah after the name of a moon god of the kuraish tribe being represented by the black stone in the corner of the stone house kaaba in Mecca instead of Yahweh the God of the Jews whom he claim they are the same. Thereby taking the name of the God in vain Ex 20:7 which is against God Commandment No 3.
5. Mohammed despised the Sabbath of rest EX 20: 10 and commanded his followers to have only about one hour Prayers on Friday Thereby breaking the 4th Commandment of God.
6. Mohammed commanded his followers to despise their unbelieving parents and separate with them Q5:23,9:23,29:8,Q25:52,58:22 This is against the 5th Commandment of God ‘Honour their father and Mother’ Ex20:12
7. Mohammed order several assassination of critique and kill thousands of unbeliever to manifest the religion of Islam as against God Commandment No.6 “ thou shall not kill”Ex 20:13
8. Mohammed ordered multiple marriage at least 4 wives but he himself was not bound by it. He permitted temporary marriage (Prostitution) Q 4:2-4 Permitted raping captives women Q4:24 , 33:50 as against God’s commandment No.7 “thou shall not commit adultery” Ex 20;14
9. Mohammed raided several Meccan Merchants on business trips and call it war booty even in the month of Ramadan the holy month of the pagans. This is against Gods Command No 8“thou shall not steal” Ex 20:15
10. Mohammed permitted deceit and lies and false witness against unbelievers in order to destroy them, called Tagiya. This is against God’s Commandment No.8 “ thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbour Ex 20;16.
11. Mohammed coveted and lusted after the wife of his Adopted son(Zaid) until she was divorced and he committed incest with her (Zainab) in the name of marriage. This is against the Commandment of God No 10 “ thou shall not covet your neighbours wife, maid, servants or goods” Ex 20:17
C. WHAT ARE THE PROOFS THAT MOHAMMED WAS A TRUE PROPHET OR MESSENGER OF GOD?
12. Another point over the credentials of Mohammed as a true prophet was that he could not perform a miracle as confirmed by Q29:49 in order to convince people instead he ordered conversion by force. He decleared Jihad on unbelievers (fight in Allah’s cause) or you die . If you reject his message you die too, he also ordered for the killing of the apostate Q4 89, Q47:4 q3:118 Buhkari v4p55 Q9:5,29 This is against the ten commandments and the Golden rule “ whatsoever he would that men should do to you do it also to them” Matt 7:12. True Prophets make converts through love, mercy, compassion and miracles to win the heart of people and not through terror and Jihad.
13. Mohammed because he couldn’t keep the commandments God he replaces the commandments with meaningless pagans rituals that were practiced in Kaaba long before Islam and he called it the five Pillars of Islam 3 of which are directly against the ten commandments. This is contrary to the ward of God that says “Obedience is better than sacrifice” 1Sam 15:22
14. When good people sincerely want to practice what Mohammed taught and did they began to grow bears, become terrorists, build Madrasses for training terrorist and Religious morons without ability to question or think rationally. Why is the Quran a source of inspiration for more than 95% of the world terrorism? But this is not so in the case of the Bible when bad people believe the Bible sincerely practice what Jesus taught they become good people loving, merciful compassionate, caring missionaries, building schools, Hospitals, orphanages, churches for salvation; healing and deliverance, all for the good of mankind. The Bible transforms lives for good while the Quran transforms lives for evils. The Bible is man-friendly while the Quran is not man-friendly.Q3:118, 28 This is a food for taught for those who believe that the Quran is a word of God. The fruits Islam bear all over the world are not good fruits but Jesus says by their fruits you shall know them Matt 7:20-21
15. Mohammed did not fulfil any old Testaments and New Testament prophesies except that of false prophets in Matt 7: 15-21 He could not predict the future accurately and no power to live a holy life. So he couldn’t have been called a prophet. Jesus alone fulfil more than 300 Old Testament prophesies perform miracles, predict the future accurately and live a sinless life.
D. WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE OF MOHAMMED THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BELIEVE?
It you read the Quran correctly and objectively together with the Sira and the hadiths, the prophets biography acts and deeds, there is but one conclusion that you will arrive at as the central message; that is a total declaration of war against all man kind, the anti human and violent verses or threat of hell or the day of doom against unbelievers account for more than 60% of the Islamic scriptures. No love message or compassion and mercies from the creator, only doom and destruction and above all Allah does not do the killing of infidels Himself as He did in the old testament but allow the human jihadist to do the dirty thing for him.No miracle from Allah in any form Why? That is why there is a doubt as to whether this Allah is real and the same as Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christians who is full of love, mercies and compassion for all humans whether they believe in him or not.
16. Mohammed preached hatred, violence and revenge to enemy’s unbelievers,Q9;5,29,60:13 and oppressed women Q8:39 Q4:3,24,20,34, . Quran 4:34 recommends beating a disobedient wife. Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 9, Number 493, quotes, “ Narrated Aisha: The things which annul prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, donkey and a woman. I said, ‘You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs.’” Muslim Book 1 Number 142 quotes Muhammad the prophet saying, “O womenfolk, you should ask forgiveness for I saw you in bulk among the dwellers of Hell.” In Islam women are treated like animals with no freedom and equal rights. Three shots from the Divorce gun in the hand of Muslim man “Divorce, Divorce, Divorce” will condemn even the most obedient wife to a life of ignominy and suffering.as against love and mercy and forgiveness preached by Christ. Matt 5,6,7
17. Mohammed preached divorce and remarriage, child-bride(child abuse)Q65:4-5 multiple wives, wife beaten Q4:3,24,20,34and inequality with women as against the uniform teaching of the earlier scriptures of one man one wife no divorce no remarriage and equality of souls before God whether male or female. Mat 19:1-5.Gal 3:28,29
18. Mohammed practiced paedophilia (child abuse) he married and had sex with a 9 year old girl named Aisha Q65:4-5 Tabari VII:7 "The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six." Ishaq:281 "When the Apostle came to Medina he was fifty-three." Tabari VII:6 "In May, 623 A.D./A.H. 1, Allah's Messenger consummated his marriage to Aisha." when he was 53 years old there by setting a bad example which became a sunnah in Islam for the horny bearded old men to have fund with little children. This is evil according to Bible standard and any civilian society. Even in Arabs society during Mohammed’s time. Tabari IX:128 "When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation." This is how it happened by Aisha: Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old."
19. Most of Mohammed scriptures are self servings, situational and delusional and did not hide the intent of such scriptures. He admitted to be ones spoken on behalf of Satan. Mohammed’s Allah never denied or rebuke him when it comes to satisfying his cravings and lust there were always handy scriptures to support especially in the area of committing incest, stealing, fighting for booty or babes or take over neighbours wife or daughter like the case of Zaid ‘s wife Zainab and Abu Bakrs daughter-Aisha.
20. Mohammed preached one God with a clause that you must believe him as the prophet of Allah. It was a problem to the Jews and Christian who were the only monotheistic religion known by Mohammed ,Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christian had never had an Arab Prophet not to talk of a Polygamist, a pirate a Terrorist, a slave trader, an assassin a womaniser and an illiterate pagan as a prophet before. Making a human being a partner in the matter of faith is idolatry which was not in line with the earlier scriptures the Bible. Because the Jews and Christian rejected him “the prophet and his Massage” the massager turn against them and are regarded as pagans, to be killed and wiped out to the last or pay tax. Q3;118,5:51,54,82.
E. WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE TEST OF THE QURAN AS THE WORD OF GOD?
21. Mohammed said if the Quran is not from God it will be full of contradiction and inconsistencies Q4:82 There are more than 200 contradictions and inconsistencies in the Quran this means that the Quran is not from God. He also put a Sura like challenge in Q11:13,17:88 That no one would be able produce such a surah as the Quran. Truly no surah devoid of context, chronology history and full of contradictions and errors like the Quran ever been passed as a scriptures before, such a muddled message cannot be produced by any literate, intelligent human not to talk of passing it to a divine being as Almighty, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresence God. Only one error in the Quran renders it not God’s word. The implication of this challenge is that if you can find an error in the Quran then it is not the word of God here are a few:
a. Examples of internal contradictions—
Q54:19 mentions Ad was destroyed in a day but Q69:6,7 mentions Aad was destroyed in seven nights and eight days; Q19:17 shows an angel appeared to Mary but Q3:42 shows several angels appeared; Q28:40 mentions pharaoh drowned and died but Q10:92 states that the same pharaoh was saved;
b. Examples of scientific errors-
Q18:86 states that sun sets in a muddy spring of water; Q15:19 mentions earth is flat; Q86:6,7 states that semen emits from between back-bone and the ribs;
c. Examples of historical blunders—
Q19:27,28 states that Mary was the sister of Aaron, whereas history shows they were born about 1300 years apart; Q28:8 tells that pharaoh and Haman were living at the same time and place whereas history clearly shows they were born about 1000 years apart and pharaoh lived in Egypt and Haman lived in Shushan city in Persia; and Q4:157 says that Jesus was not crucified whereas it is crystal clear in historical records that Jesus was crucified and not another man who looked like Jesus. By the way, the transliterated name of Jesus in arabic Quran is Isa but even this is wrong because the name of Esau, brother of Jacob (Yaqub in arabic) is Isa in arabic. The correct transliterated name of Jesus in Arabic is Yasu. Isa (Esau) means ‘hairy’ and Yasu (Jesus) means ‘God saves.’ Muslims tell so many lies to cover up all internal contradictions, scientific errors and historical blunders in Quran.
F. OTHER THOUGHT PROVOKING QUESTIONS
22. The whole massage of Islam is centred on the recitals of one man and his acts and deeds which he alone claim to have received from Allah through Angel Gabriel without any witness or anybody collaborating his massage not even any of his wives. Aisha the child bride said Mohammed only saw his lord twice for the whole of twenty three years of ministry. Despite the fact the Quran was said to have been revealed in the month of Ramadan Quran 2:185 it remain recitals not a book until about fifty years after the death of Mohammed when the second Kalif Uthman asked Zaid to compile from the fading memories of the dying companions of Mohammed. According to the Hadiths of Bukhari Vol.6:509 p.478 only a few sura were written down by scribes during Mohammed time In Bukhari Vol.4:57,62,69.299, it is confirmed that many original verses were lost, after many of Muhammad’s uneducated companions - who had memorized the various sura of the Quran, were killed in the Battle of Yamamah. In sura 2:106 says, “Such of our revelations as we abrogate {cancel} or cause to be forgotten, we bring (in place) One better or the like thereof.” This confirms how Quran was developed during Mohammed 23 years of his recitals any verse forgotten or contradicted the latest replaces the old one. This verse contradicts some verses of the Quran and the Bible that the word of God stand forever and not subject change not even by God Himself. Q6:34, 6:115 Psm 119:89 Matt 24:35 This is a strange way of passing scriptures to mankind. This cast a doubt as to the authenticity of the Quran as a holy scripture.
23. Which of the two books is more credible and which one is likely to be corrupted than the other. The one written by the receiver as he receives the message from God directly as the case of the Bible or the one the receiver received from an angel as recitals for period not less than 23 years and collected and written from the fading memories of the dying recitals 50 years after the alleged original receiver has died as is the case with the Koran? The accusation that the Jews and Christian have corrupted theirs books has no basis, since this books were in circulations more than 2600 before Islam. When the corruption did takes before or after Islam? If after where is the original? If before for what purses were it corrupted and where was the original?
24. Comparing the Quran with the Bible the scam and deceptions become clearer. The Bible inspired by the Holy spirit to 40 holy literate scribes and prophets living at different times and generation spanning over 2100 years yet without contradiction of message or unity of God and purpose. As against one illiterate Pagan living among Idol worshipers without prior knowledge of the old scriptures with so many contradictions of the unity of God and purpose. One book of 114 chapters without context or chronology or history and contradicted by history, science and archaeology as against 66 books of 1189 chapters well documented historical document with context and chronology and confirmed by history, science and archaeology. One man-witness against 40 men witnesses, one man writer –Zaid against 4o men writers including Moses, David, Solomon, Isaiah Daniel ,Matthew, John and Paul the undisputable prophets, kings and Apostles . The fact that this one man’s testimony differs in every aspect from the well documented and approved scriptures of God almighty means that the Quran do not belong to the class of the scriptures for all mankind. The fact that it was forced on the pagan Arabs by Sward is something else. Even if the pagans accepted it as true scripture you can not blame them because they have never seen a true prophet of Yahweh before neither did they know the characteristic to look for in a Prophet. But Jews and Christians knew it that was why they were regarded as enemy of Islam up to today because they rejected Mohammed and his message as being Satanic and an Anti Christ inspiration,
25. What is the proof that Quran is not full of satanic verses since Mohammed said every prophet spoke on behalf of satan sometimes but only in the quaran we have examples In Bukhari:V3B33N254 “The prophet said, ‘Satan circulates in human beings as blood flows in our bodies.’” Allah says in Sura 22:52 “Never sent we a messenger or a prophet before thee (Muhammad) but when he recited (the sura Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth.” He agreed to have spoken on behalf of satan in the matter of allat aluazza and manat the goddesses of allah whose intercessory is to be sought thereby approving polytheism for some time before he expunged the verse from the Quran or abrogated it in the quranic language.
26. What baffled me is how someone with brain could read the Koran and the Hadiths and pass them for scriptures to be believed for one’s salvation. Even if Mohammed had pirated and copied the Old and the New Testament word for word does it pass it for scriptures? Was the New Testament pass for the scriptures because it recalled the stories in the old Testament? No but because it recorded and recalled only the aspect it fulfilled from the Old Testament prophesy. This, the Quran did not do not even one prophesy did it fulfilled except what the false prophets would say and do. A divine scripture does not only recall history correctly but also predict the future correctly. This the Koran could not do nor its prophets had any power to predict the future neither did he know when he was to die, contrary to the Bible Prophets, they knew when they were to die and they prepare for it not Islam’s only prophets. On which ground is the Koran regarded as a scripture for religion and faith and Mohammed a prophet?
27. Another puzzle that needed to be decoded before Islam can be taken seriously was that the Prophet of Islam taught what himself was not able to keep. What then does he expect the lesser mortars to do. He taught on the number wives man can keep, on killing, fighting in the Holy month of Ramadan, incest, pedophilia, assassination, false witness, stealing, armed rubbery, slavery, racism, sorcery, deceits and lies as bad, yet he never allow such things to come between him and his personal interest. Especially in the area of sex, money and power, he broke all his wards which he claimed are the words of Allah. No wonders Muslim reverence him as they did to their Allah. Because only Allah the God of Islam has such characteristics.
28. Another question I want to asked the Mohammadans is why was Mohammed’s message self-serving and situational? Inspiration comes only at the instance of solving personal or political problems or when someone requested like in the case of veiling of women by Umar and not spiritual and moral precepts that will have effect in time and eternity? Mohammed claimed in his Quran that man was created in pairs male and female as in Q78:8 yet the same Allah allow man to have up to four wives for him self in contrast to the former scriptures. Should someone with brain believe those made to order verses as scriptures?
29. If Mohammed was a prophet of God that has come to show us the way to God why can’t you follow his way of life I mean the so called good muslin, like killing the infidels around you, assassinating those who disagree with Islam, marrying more than four wives like the prophet, marrying underage girls at 9yrs like the prophet did, committing incest like the prophet, raiding the caravans and mass murder of the Jews and Christian and said no Jew is allow to live not to talk of recognizing the state of Israel as a nation for Allah has cursed them to be apes and pigs.. Quran 2:190-193, 61:4, 8:59-70, 9:5, 12, 30, 38-39 May be the suicide bombers and the terrorists , the Al-qaida the Islamic Jihad etc are really the true Muslim.
30. If the only Arabian self proclaimed prophet seeking Biblical confirmation is indeed the same class with the Jews prophets like Abraham, Moses, Jesus, why did he break all the Ten Commandments without remorse, and deny the blood sacrifice, the priest hood , death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, His messiah ship of which is at the center of both Jews and Christian faith.
31. If the self proclaimed Arabian prophet is also a prophet of the God of Israel and of Christ why was there no prophesy, no miracle, no historical or Archeological confirmation of the ungodly message of the Koran. Why is the Koran full of the message of hate of the people of God (Jews and Christian) and all mankind except the Muslim? In contrast to the message of the Bible which is love, mercy, forgiveness, kindness to all mankind, and salvation for all who believe in the messiah Jesus Christ?
32. If the self proclaimed Arab prophet who had never known how to serve the Almighty God of the Bible and who never wanted to part with idol worship a true prophet of God why did he approve all the Idolatry of the Arabs in all the rituals of ka’aba worships, the prostrating prayer towards the idol of ka,aba , the Ramadan fast, kissing of the black stone, and all the rituals of Ka’aba which were practiced before Islam. What has Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus got to do with Idol warship in kaaba about 900 klm from the holy land of Israel the chosen people of God with signs and wonders accompanying their national history. These Jews prophets, Mohammed smuggled into ka’aba worship as Muslim, yet he declare war to all Jews and Christian to this day. Haba malam
33. If Islam is not an evil cult why was there no freedom of worship? If you leave Islam, Allah commands the faithful to kill you. This Allah must be different from the God of the Jews and Christian who allow every one the liberty of choice of whom to serve, whether God or Satan. Joshua 24:15 Jn 3:16
34. What makes Mohammed an illiterate man in an Idolatrous and demon infested environment like the 360 idols worshiped in kaaba, the seal of the prophet when his life never resemble that of the true prophets that came before him who were all educated Jews and who knew the Jews Scriptures preserve for more than 2,600 years which Mohammed agreed was from the God he preached. Those prophets never kill because of persecutions, or fought, they never assassinated because of being ridiculed, They never married an Under aged girls or rape slave women, they never say people should marry more than one wife not to talk of four sanction by Mohammed. The never lived in sin and if any committed any sin God exposes such prophet or king and punished them but not with Allah who come with situational revelation to cover the prophet. They never promised sexy virgins waiting for the dwellers of paradise or heaven rather they did preach heaven for the righteous where they neither marry nor given in marriage but are like the angels.
35. What makes the massage of hate, violence, works, rituals worship and sensual heaven as depicted in the Quran superior to that of love to your enemies, mercy, salvation by grace through faith in Christ and a holy heaven as depicted in the Bible?
36. Why should the last message to all mankind kind inspires, terrorism, assassination, religious intolerant, women oppression and men chauvinism than all the world religions put together?.
37. How can a recitals (Quran) from an illiterate self proclaimed prophet (which he admitted escapes faster than a runaway camel) full of contradictions and without context, without chronology and no other witnesses or historical or Archeological confirmation be superior to the Bible written by 40 different persons as they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, well educated, living at different times and generation over 2,000 years yet all agreed on the nature of God, creation, man, sin, salvation, hell and heaven. These were all backed by history and Archeological confirmation.
38. Why should the omniscience, omnipotent, and the omnipresence Allah swear by the moon and by the stars if he was same as Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christian who does not swear by anything but Himself because he created all things? If Allah was not the moon god known and worshipped by the Arabs before Islam why was Mohammed in one of the hadith said if you looked at the full moon you will see your Lord. And why is the Crescent moon symbol and Star used as the symbol of Islam? Why did the Quraysh tribe of Mohammed adore the Lord of the House-kaaba Allah as Idolaters before Mohammed Islamized it Q106:3 if Allah was the same as Yahweh of the Jews and Christians?
39. Why did Mohammed call his religion the religion of Abraham when in actual fact there is nothing Abraham in it? Besides Abraham had no religion but relationship with God. He had covenant with God, Mohammed had no covenant .Abraham was called out of idolatry and not into it as Mohammed was called into it, as he sanctified all pagan religious rituals of Kaaba as true worship of God. Abraham believed in atonement of sin by the blood, Mohammed did not. Abraham believed in marrying only one wife at a time Mohammed did not. God promised blessings to those who love and bless the descendants of Abraham the Jews and a curse for those who do otherwise but Mohammed hate them and wanted his followers to annihilate them from the face of the earth why? Could it be the reasons why his followers are worst poverty stricken and most backwards people of the face of the earth despite their richness in oil?
40. Why does the God of the Quran keep on abrogating verses when He caused it to be forgotten by his prophet? Q2:106 Is it this enough proof that Allah can not be same as the God of the Bible whose wards are eternal and cannot be altered or caused to be forgotten? Num 23:19
41. One wonders why about 1.3 billion people all over the world commit their souls and destiny to a self proclaimed prophet without divine proof, of miracle of mercies( healing the sick, casting out demons, etc) or miracle of power( divine provisions, raising the dead and no demonstration of a high moral standard like John the Baptist who did no miracle yet he was a shining light in holiness of life for one to follow But this one ( Mohammed)a warmonger, a pedophile, a pirate, a murderer, a womanizer, a slave trafficker, an Idol worshiper under the veil of monotheism who uses the moon god ( Allah)has his principal partner and force his belief by sward into the life of Arabs and all those who came across his way. This prophet failed woefully on a simple test of somebody with a divine call. It was possible to believe this kind of prophet only during the time of ignorant, as the Arabs never hard a prophet through out their history, no promise from God as he did to the Jews’ they never known the attributes of God, and how to identify the true prophet of God, even if they did this one has a sward in his hand to kill and destroy like the devil is identified in the Bible. Jn 10:10 But what will the 1.3 billion people say in the Day of Judgment? That they could not read the Quran and see the deceits that is in it?, or that they could not read the true Scriptures the Bible that the Quran said they should read? Or will they blame the Mullahs, the Imams who have being deceiving them and covering the truth with lies. If you have read this thought provoking questions up to this point I congratulate you. Go further to take a decision for your life. Read the Jews and the Christian Scriptures the Bible for a guide to paradise. You don’t get there through ritualistic prayers or Almsgiving or going to Hajji or faith in a god that has a moon and star -created things has his symbol or martyrdom by murdering innocent infidels in the name of jihad. You get in their only through faith in the atoning blood of the Son of God who gave is life a ransom for the sin of the world. He died on the cross of Calvary as God plan of salvation for mankind. Believe it to be saved reject it to be damned. MATT.11.28, Jn,3:16-18, Act 3:19 Rom10:9-13
The Muslim have great task to rebut the above well researched facts about Mohammed’s inconsistent message and the message of Violence.
42. Conclusion
The only objective conclusion one can draw from the above facts about Islam is that Many people are in Islam because either they are ignorant of the fundamental teachings which is contrary to human needs or they know it but decide to ignore the satanic verses or play safe because they are afraid of being killed for apostatising Q4.89 Another reason why many people still believe in the Quran because they did not read the Bible with objective mind to know what they earlier scriptures said so as to test the Quran with it to know weather or not they are from the same God. A Little study will separate the truth from lies and deception. If one really wants to follow a prophet as a guide to paradise shouldn’t one look for an authentic and God sent prophets with proofs in powers and in characters? Why should one follow someone who confesses that he was just a Warner and did not know his future or what will be come of him? Christianity is not a religion of sort, or prophet or hero-worship cult like Islam. But a covenant of righteousness established through relationship with the son of God that gave his life atonement for man’s sin and a follow a belief system as Abraham did and it was counted for him as righteousness. Not a religion of Abraham but righteousness based on the faith of Abraham. Meant for the Jews first and for us the gentiles.
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give their rebutal with objective minds,
written by a guest , October 27, 2009
written by Saladin , October 27, 2009
Nazis,ultranationalists and islamophobes better get use to the idea,WE`RE HERE TO STAY!HAHAHAHAH
written by pugo , October 27, 2009
written by shestired , October 27, 2009
written by saladin , October 27, 2009
You worthless fools,surely your bark is stronger than your bite.
The "west" is finished,you fruitcakes just don`t realise it.
written by berq , October 28, 2009
written by Kohi , October 30, 2009
written by Opecker , October 31, 2009
I hold all religious dogma in absolute contempt!
Here is my practical solution to the spread of this cancerous Islamic ideology.
We should immediately ramp up our efforts to stop using OIL.
Without the Petro Dollars the Saudis and the like will not have the means to fund Madrassas and terror cells.
Let's get practical and stop funding this nightmare by using PETROL.
We now have the technology and despite the fact we need to be carbon neutral for the climate, I cannot think of a more compelling reason than Islam to accelerate our conversion to a oil free future.
Can all of you see the wonderful logic in this concept?
Islam has been using its oil wealth to fund all terror.
Yes the middle east is a mess, and is the product of lies, deceit and greed for oil my England and America.
The Palistinian situation can go on no longer, the west, in particular the US must withhold money to Israel to end the stealing of more land under the ludicrous promise of another mythical God. The right wing Jewish settlers are of the same mind set as the Islamists. They are doing to a people that Hitler did to their forebears. These people were not radicalised until they were kept in isolation under threat for 2 generations. I have seen and researched the fact of the hate that is taught in muslim schools and even childrens television programs.
So now let us fix up our past and present crimes against humanity for OIL and start to rapidly creating a world where we need very little oil in our economies.
I can see it now! the Ayatollahs trying to explain why Allah has forsaken them. But I am past caring about muslims who blindly follow the rantings of a murderous pedophile.
But please also remember the hypocrisy of the claim that homosexuality does not exist in Islam. However it is a fact that muslim men are sodomizing each other and little boys at an alarming ferocity.
Let us live without the need of oil and this will be the most powerful blow with which to defend ourselves against the hideous
religious ideology once an for all.
written by Muhammad Islam , November 05, 2009
A lecture by Ahmed Deedat
SAY: "DO YOU SEE ?
WHETHER THIS MESSAGE BE FROM ALLAH (God Almighty),
AND YET YOU REJECT IT,
AND A WITNESS FROM AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL BORE
WITNESS OF ONE LIKE HIM......."
(Holy Qur'an 46:10). (see note 1)
Mr.Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen,
The subject of this evening's talk - "What the BIBLE says about MUHAMMED" - will no doubt come as a surprise to many of you because the speaker is a Muslim. How does it come about that a Muslim happens to be expounding prophecies from the Jewish and Christian Scriptures ?
As a young man, about 30 years ago, I attended a series of religious lectures by a Chriatian theologian, a certain Rev. Hiten, at the "Theatre Royal", Durban in South Africa.
Pope or Kissinger?
This Reverend gentleman was expounding Biblical prophecies. He went on to prove that the Christian Bible foretold the rise of Soviet Russia, and the Last Days. At one stage he went to the extent of proving that his Holy Book did not leave even the Pope out of its predictions. He expatiated vigo rously in order to convince his audience that the "Beast 666" mentioned in the Book of Revelation the last book of the New Testament was the POPE, who was the Vicar of Christ on earth. It is not befitting for us Muslims to enter into this controversy between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants. By the way, the latest Christia exposition of the "Beast 666" of the Christian Bible is Dr.Henry Kissinger(2). Christian scholars are ingenious and indefatigable in their efforts to prove their case.
Rev. Hiten's lectures led me to ask that if the Bible foretold so many things - not even excluding the "Pope" and "Israel" - then surely it must have something to say about the greatest benefactor of mankind(3) , the Holy Prophet Muhammed (may the peace of Allah be upon him).
As a youngster I set out to search for an answer. I met priest after priest, attended lectures, and read everything that I could lay my hands relating to the fields of Bible prophecies. Tonight I am going to narrate to you one of these interviews with a dominee(4) of the Dutch Reformed Church.
Lucky Thirteen
I was invited to the Transvaal(5) to deliver a talk on the occasion of Birthday celebration of the Holy Prophet Muhammed. Knowing that in that province of the Republic, the Afrikaans language is widely spoken, even by my own people, I felt that I ought to acquire a smattering of this language so a s to feel a little "at home" with the people. I opened the telephone directory and began phoning the Afrikaans-speaking Churches. I indicated my purpose to the priests that I was interested in having a dialogue with them, but they all refused my request with "Plausible" excuses. No.13 was my lucky number. The thirteenth call brought me pleasure and relief. A dominee Van Heerden agreed to meet me at his home on the Saturday afternoon that I was to leave for Transvaal.
He received me on his verandah with a friendly welcome. He said if I did not mind, he would like his father-in-law from the Free State (a 70 year old man) to join us in the discussion. I did not mind. The three of us settled down in the dominee's library.
Why nothing?
I posed the question: "What does the Bible say about Muhummed?" Without hesitation he answered, "Nothing!" I asked: "Why nothing? According to your interpretation the Bible have so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia and about the Last Days and even about the Pope of the Roman Ca tholics?" He said, "Yes, but there was nothing about Muhummed!" I asked again, "Why nothing? Surely this man Muhummed who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of Believers who, on his authority, believe in:
(1) the miraculous birth of Jesus,
(2) that Jesus is the Messiah,(note 6)
(3) that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission.
Surely this book (the Bible) must have something to say about this great Leader of men who spoke so well of Jesus and his mother Mary?"
The old man from the Free State replied. "My son, I have been reading the Bible for the past 50 years, and if there was any mention of him, I would have known it."
Not One by name!
I enquired: "According to you, are there not hundreds of prophecies regarding the coming of Jesus in the Old Testament." The dominee interjected: "Not hundreds, but thousands!" I said, "I am not going to dispute the 'thousand and one' prophecies in the Old Testament regarding the coming of Jesu s Christ, because the whole Muslim-world has already accepted him without the testimony of any Biblical prophecy. We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhummed alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,000 followers of Muhummed who love, respect and rev ere Jesus Christ as a great Messenger of God without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics. Out of the 'thousands' of prophecies referred to, can you please give me just one single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term 'Messiah', translated as 'C hrist', is not a name but a title. Is there a single Prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be JESUS, and that his mother's name will be MARY, that his supposed father will be JOSEPH THE CARPENTER; that he will be born in the reign of HEROD THE KING, etc. etc.? No! There are no su ch details! Then how can you conclude that those 'thousand' Prophecies refer to Jesus (Peace be upon him)?"
What is Prophecy?
The dominee replies: "You see, prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future. When that thing actually comes to pass, we see vividly in these prophecies the fulfilment of what had been predicted in the past." I said: "What you actually do is that you deduce, yo u reason, you put two and two together." He said: "Yes." I said: "If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhummed?" The dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition , a reasonable way of dealing with the problem.
I asked him to open up Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18, which he did. I read from memory the verse in Afrikaans, because this was my purpose in having a little practice with the language of the ruling race in South Africa. (
'N PROFEET SAL EK VIR HULLE VERWEK UIT DIE MIDDE VAN HULLE BROERS, SOOS JY IS, EN EK SAL MY WOORDE IN SY MOND LE, EN HY SY SAL AAN HULLE SE ALLE WAT EK HOM BEVEEL. Deut.18: 18.
The English translation reads as follows:-
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like unto thee,
and I will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18:18.
Prophet Like Moses
Having recited the verse in Afrikaans, I apologised for my uncertain pronunciation, The dominee assured me that I was doing fine. I enquired: "To whom does this prophecy refer?" Without the slightest hesitation he answered: "JESUS!" I asked: "Why Jesus?... his name is not mentioned here." The domin ee replied: "Since prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him. You see the most important words of this prophecy are 'SOOS JY IS' (like unto thee), - LIKE YOU - like Moses, and Jesus is like Moses. " I questioned: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET - therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - "SOOS JY IS". "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?" I asked. The dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblica l personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophency to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of anoth er?" The dominee had no reply. I continued: "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me."
Three Unlikes
So staying, I reasoned with him: "In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses! SECONDLY, according to you - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Mose s did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?" He again said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses! THIRDLY, according to you - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!" "But dominee," I continued: "these are not hard facts, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?" The dominee was quiet happy at the suggestion.
Father and Mother
(1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "DAAROM IS JESUS NIE SOOS MOSES NIE, MAAR MUHUMMED IS SOOS MOSES!" Meaning: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is lik e Moses!" (By now the reader will realise that I was using the Afrikaans language only for practice purposes. I shall discontinue its use in this narration).
Miraculous Birth
(2) "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St.Matthew 1:18".....BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER,(Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST.' And St.Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announded to her, Mary reasoned:'.......HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN? AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE:......'(Luke 1:35). The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question:
" O MY LORD! HOW SHALL I HAVE A SON WHEN NO MAN HATH TOUCHED ME? "
The angel says in reply:
"EVEN SO:
ALLAH CREATETH WHAT HE WILLETH:
WHEN HE HATH DECREED A PLAN,
HE BUT SAITH TO IT "BE,"
AND IT IS " (9) (HOLY QUR'AN, 3:47).
It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus.
(When I compared the Qur'an and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest City, and when I enquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the QUR'ANIC version or the BIBLICAL version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Qur'anic.") In short, I said to the dominee: "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhummed?"He replied proudly:"Yes!" I said:"Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and Muhummed is like Moses."
Marriage Ties
(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."
Jesus Rejected by his People
(3) "Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life imposs ible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, ofter two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejeted him. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "THEREFORE JESUS IS NOT LIKE MOSES, BUT MUHUMMED IS LIKE MOSES."
"Other-Wordly" Kingdom
(5) "Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment - HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day , and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people. There are instances in the Bible of persons who wer e given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their mesage, were the prophets lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. The Holy Prophet Jesus (Peace b.u.h) also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this: when Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, Charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charg e: JESUS ANSWERED, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD': IF MY KINGDOM WERE OF THIS WORLD, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE JEWS; BUT NOW IS MY KINGDOM NOT FROM HENCE"(John 18:36) This convinced Pilate (A Pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possessio n of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a Prophet. Is this true?" The dominee answered:"Yes." I said:"Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
No New Laws
(6) "Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-m others; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATI ON.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form.
"From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, 'into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREA SECTION OF THE WORLD. ...' The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before.
"As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an imposter with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT IAM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: IAM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-1
. In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they al wasy levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed. Is this true?" I asked the dominee, and he answered: "Yes." I said:"Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." How they Departed
(7) "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.(10) Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
Heavenly Abode
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"Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Is this true?" The dominee agreed. I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." Ishmael The First Born
Since the dominee was helplessly agreeing with every point, I said, "Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy- that is proving the phrase 'LIKE UNTO THEE' - 'Like You' 'Like Moses'. The Prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows : "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the arabs. You see, the Holy Bible s peaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham(11) called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and sed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, wh o was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:1
. The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:1. There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among the mselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN! Words in the Mouth
"The prophecy proceeds further:'.......AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH.......' What does it mean when it is said 'I will put my words in your mouth'? You see, when I asked you (the dominee) to open Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, at the beginning, and if I had asked you to read, and if you had read: would I be putting my words into your mouth?" The dominee answered: "No." "But," I continued: "If I were to teach you a language like Arabic about which you have no knowledge, and if I asked you to read or repeat after me what I utter i.e.:
"SAY: HE IS ALLAH THE ONE AND ONLY;
ALLAH, THE ETERNAL ABSOLUTE;
HE BEGETTETH NOT, NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN:
AND THERE IS NONE LIKE UNTO HIM.
(Holy Qur'an 112:1-4)( I read them in Arabic )
Would I not be putting these unheard words of a foreign tongue which you utter, into your mouth?" The dominee agreed that it was indeed so. In an identical manner, I said, the words of the Holy Qur'an, the Revelation vouchsafed by the Almighty God to Muhummed, were revealed.
History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue:'IQRA' which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! Muhummed w as terrified and in his bewilderment replied that he was not NOT LEARNED! The angel commands him a second time with the same result. For the third time the angel continues.
Now Muhummed, grasps, that what was required of him was to repeat! to rehearse! And he repeats the words as they were put into his mouth:
"READ! IN THE NAME OF THE LORD AND CHERISHER, WHO CREATED-
CREATED MAN, FROM A (MERE) CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD:
READ! AND THY LORD IS MOST BOUNTIFUL,-
HE WHO TAUGHT (THE USE OF) THE PEN,
TAUGHT MAN THAT WHICH HE KNEW NOT".
(Holy Qur'an 96:1-5)
These are the first five verses which were revealed to Muhummed which now occupy the beginning of the 96th chapter of the Holy Qur'an.
The Faithful Witness
Immediately the angel had departed, Muhummed rushed to his home. Terrified and sweating all over he asked his beloved wife Khadija to 'cover him up!' He lay down, and she watched by him. When he had regained his composure, he explained to her what he had seen and heard. She assured him of her faith in him and that Allah would not allow any terrible thing to happen to him. Are these the confessions of an imposter? Would imposters confess that when an angel of the Lord confronts them with a Message from on High, they get fear-stricken, terrified, and sweating all over, run home to their wives? Any critic can see that his reactions and confessions are that of an honest, sincere man, the man of Truth- 'AL-AMIN' - THE Honest, the Upright, the Truthful. During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were 'Put into his mouth', and he uttered them. They made an indeliable imp ression on his heart and mind: and as the volume of the Sacred Scripture (Holy Qur'an) grew, they were recorded on palm-leaf libre, on skins and on the shoulder-blades of animals; and in the hearts of his devoted disciples. Before his demise these words were arranged according to his instructions i n the order in which we find them to-day in the Holy Qurann.
The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusiion: 'AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.'(Deut. 18:1
. Un-lettered Prophet
Muhummed's experience in the cave of Hira, later to be known as Jabal-un Noor - The Mountain of Light, and his response to that first Revelation is the exact fulfilment of another Biblical Prophecy. In the Book of Isaish. Chapter 29, verse 12, we read: "AND THE BOOK" (al-Kitaab,al-Quran the 'Readin g', the 'Recitation') "IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED," (Isaiah 29:12) "THE UNLETTERED PROPHET " (Holy Qur'an 7:15
and the biblical verse continues : "SAYING, READ THIS, I PRAY THEE:" (the words "I pray thee", are not in the Hebrew manuscripts; compare with the Roman Cathol ics' "Douay Version and also with the "Revised Standard Versions") "AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." ("I am not learned." is the exact translation of the Arabic words which Muhummed uttered twice to the Holy Ghose - the Archangel Gabriel, when he was commanded : "READ!"). Let me quote the verse in full without a break as found in the "King James Version," or the "Authorised version" as it is more popularly know "AND THE BOOK IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED, SAYING, READ THIS I PRAY THEE: AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." (Isaiah 29:12).
Important note :
It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles(12) in existence in the 6th Century of the Christian Era when Muhummed lived and preachedl Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned. No human had ever taught him a word. His teacher was his Creator:
"HE DOES NOT SPEAK (AUGHT), OF (HIS OWN) DESIRE:
IT IS NO LESS THAN INSPIRATION SENT DOWN TO HIM:
HE WAS TAUGHT BY ONE MIGHTY IN POWER,"
(Holy Qur'an 53:3-5).
Without any human learning, 'he put to shame the wisdom of the learned'.
Grave Warning
"See!" I told the dominee, "how the prophecies fit Muhummed like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfilment in Muhummed."
The dominee replied, "All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the "incarnate" God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!"
I asked, "Not important?" God didn't think so! He went to a great deal of trouble to have His warnings recorded. God knew that there would be people like you who will flippantly, light-heartedly discount his words, so he followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dire warning: "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, " (it is going to happen) "THAT WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM. (in the Catholic Bible the ending words are - "I will be the revenger", I will take vengeance from him - I will take revenge!) "Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threathening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threathens us, yet you have no fear of God's warning?"
"Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-'.....MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME," In whose name is Muhummed speaking?" I opened Yusuf Ali's translation of the Holy Qur'an, at chapter 114- 'Sura Nas', or Mankind - the last chapter, and showed him the formula at the head of the charpter: and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL." And the heading of chapter 113: and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL". And every chapter downwards 112 , 111, 110.......was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end SURAS (chapters) are short and take about a page each.
"And what did the prophecy demand?' ......WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME and in whose name does Muhummed speak?'IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.' The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhummed to the letter "Every chapter of the Holy Qur'an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN TH E NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.' The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: "In the name of the Father, son and holy ghost.'"(13)
Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhummed and NOT to Jesus.
Baptist Contradicts Jesus
In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of 'ONE LIKE MOSES', refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews,the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:
".......ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,...THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST."(Matthew 17:11-13). According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to s wallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "AND THIS IS THE RECORD OF JOHN,"(the Baptist) "WHEN THE JEWS SENT PRIESTS AND LEVITES FROM JERUSALEM TO ASK HIM, WHO ART THOU? AND HE CONFESSED AND DENIED NOT; BUT CONFESSED, I AM NOT THE CHRIST." (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs (14) at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "AND THEY ASKED HIM, WHAT THEN? ART THOU ELIAS? AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT." (Here Joh n the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is "Elias" and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the TWO (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is difinitely not speaking the TRUTH! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophet s:"VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, AMOUNG THEM THAT ARE BORN OF WOMEN THERE HAS NOT RISENA GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST:... (Matthew 11:11).
We Muslims know John the Baptist as Hazrut YAHYAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him). We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Hazrut ISAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him), is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Musl ims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "sacred scriptures abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the "dark sayings of Jesus"(15). We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to Jo hn the Baptist by the Jewish elite- "ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO."(John 1:21)
Three Questions!
Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist and to which he gave three emphatic "NO'S" as answers. To recapitulate:-
1) ART THOU THE CHRIST?
2) ART THOU ELIAS?
3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET?
But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had T-H-R-E-E separate prophecies in their minds when they were interogating John the Baptist, let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following:
"AND THEY ASKED HIM, AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHEY BAPTIZEST THOU THEN, IF THOU BE
a) NOT THAT CHRIST,
b) NOR ELIAS,
c) NEITHER THAT PROPHET?"
(John 1:25)
The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET.
"That Prophet"
If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words "the Prophet", or "that Prophet" occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that 'that prophet' - 'the prophet like Moses' - "L IKE UNTO THEE", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus!
We Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the "Messiah", which word is translated as "Christ".(16) We are not contesting the "thousand and one prophecies" which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does NOT ref er to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the Holy Prophet MUHUMMED!"
The dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege.
I believe the dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard and who would like to loose his sheep?
The Acid Test
To the lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said: "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. DO MEN GATHER GRAPES FROM THE THORNS, OR FIGS FROM THE THISTLES? EVERY GOOD TREE WILL BEAR GOOD FRUIT AN D EVERY EVIL TREE WILL BEAR EVIL FRUIT....BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. (Matthew 7:16-20).
Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhummed? You will find in the Last Testament of God - the Holy Qur'an - the true fulfilment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much-needed peace and happiness. "IF A MAN LIKE MOHAMED WERE TO ASSUME THE DIC TATORSHIP OF THE MODERN WORLD, HE WOULD SUCCEED IN SOLVING ITS PROBLEMS THAT WOULD BRING IT THE MUCH NEEDED PEACE AND HAPPINESS."(George Bernard Shaw)
The Greatest!
The Weekly Newsmagazine "TIME" dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen and others on the subject: "Who Were History's Great Leaders?" Some said that it was Hitler; others said-Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Mass erman, a United States psychoanalyst put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said: "LEADERS MUST FULFIL THREE FUNCTIONS:-
(1) Provide for the well-being of the led,
(2) Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure
and
(3) Provide them with one set of beliefs."
With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses - Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes:
"PEOPLE LIKE PASTEUR AND SALK ARE LEADERS IN THE FIRST SENSE. PEOPLE LIKE GANDHI AND CONFUCIUS, ON ONE HAND, AND ALEXANDER, CAESAR AND HITLER ON THE OTHER, ARE LEADERS IN THE SECOND AND PERHAPS THE THIRD SENSE. JESUS AND BUDDHA BELONG IN THE THIRD CATEGORY ALONE. PERHAPS THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES WAS MOHAMMED, WHO COMBINED ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. To a lesser degree, MOSES DID THE SAME."
According to the objective standards set by the Professor of the Chicago University, whome I believe to be Jewish, - JESUS and BUDDHA are now - here in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhummed together thus adding further weight to the argu ment that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES!
In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master:
"THE ULTIMATE CRITERION OF A TRUE PROPHET IS THE MORAL CHARACTER OF HIS TEACHING."(Prof.Dummelow.)
"BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM." (Jesus Christ)
A concluding suggestion : Come let us reason together !
SAY:"O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK!
COME TO COMMON TERMS AS BETWEEN US AND YOU:
THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD;
THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM;
THAT WE ERECT NOT, FROM AMONG OURSELVES,
LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD."
IF THEN THEY TURN BACK,
SAY:"BEAR WITNESS THAT WE (AT LEAST)
ARE MUSLIMS (BOWING TO GOD'S WILL)."
(Holy Qur'an 3:64)
"PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Qur'an. The Muslims is here commanded to invite - "O People of the Book!" - O Learned People! O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform - "that we worship none but God", because none but God is worthy of worship, not because "THE LORD THY GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF THEM THAT HATE ME."(Exodus 20:25). But because He is ou r Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion.
In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Qur'anic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, (ALLAH_ Subha-nahu wa ta-ala) there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the J ews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being - Cohe or Pope, or Priest, or Brahuman, - could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. ISLAM DOES NOT RECOGNISE PRIESTHOOD!
The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Qur'an:
Say ye: "We believe in Allah,
And the revelation given to us,
And to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac,
Jacob, and the Tribes,
And that given to Moses and Jesus
And that given to (all)
Prophets from their Lord:
We make no difference
Between one and another of them:
And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
(Holy Qur'an 2:136).
The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. IT WAS THE SAME RELIGION PREACHED BY ALL THE EARLIER PROPHETS. (Holy Qur'an 42:13). It was the truth taug ht by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. IF ANYONE WANTS A RELIGION OTHER THAN THAT, HE IS FALSE TO HIS OWN NATURE, AS HE IS FALSE TO GOD'S WILL AND PLAN. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance.
NOTES
(1) This refers to Moses. See Yusuf Ali's commentaries Nos. 4783/4 to this verse.
(2) Christian exegesists give progressive numerical values by sixes, to the English alphabet and add up to get the total 666. i.e.A=6,B=12,C=18, D=24 and so on. Progression by 6's because the number of the Beast in the Bible is "666". Try it for Dr.Kissinger.
(3) The writer has just delivered another talk in the City Hall, Durban on the 10th December, 1975 on the subject "Muhummed the Greatest".
(4) "Dominee" is the Afrikaans equivalent of priest, parson and predikant.
(5) One of the Provinces of the Republic of South Africa.
(6) The word "Messiah" comes from the Arabic and Hebrew word masaha which means to rub, to massage, to annoint. The religious significance is "the one who is anointed' - priests and kings were anointed in consecration to their offices. Messiah translated Christ does not mean God. Even the heathen C yrus is called "Christ" in the Bible, (Isaiah 45:1)
(7) Muhummed is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomn 5:16. The Hebrew word used there is Muhammuddim. The end letters IM is plural of respect majesty and grandeur. Minus "im" the name would be Muhamudd translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorised Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One' 'the one worthy of Praise' i.e. MUHUMMED!
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If this lecture is translated into any language, please change the Afrikaans words into the local dialect; and do not try a free hand translation of the Biblical quotation. Obtain a Bible in the language in which translation is being made and transcribe exactly as the words occur in that Bible. (9) Please open the Holy Qur'an 3:42 and 19:16 where the birth of Jesus is spoken about; read it with the commentry, note the high position which Jesus and his mother occupy in Islam.
(10) Write for "Was Christ Crucified?" by the writer, free on request.
(11) According to the Bible Abraham's name was Abram before it was changed by God to Abraham.
(12) There are today Arabic Bibles in Fourteen different scripts and dialects for the Arabs alone. See "The Gospels in many tongues", obtainable from the Bible Society.
(13) The Christian theologians are ignorant of even the "name of God. Because "God" is not a name, and "Father" is also not a name. What's his name? See "Muhummed-the Natural Successor to Christ", by the author, available free.
(14) The Jews were expecting a single Messiah not two.
(15) See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And write for your free copy of "50,000 Errors in the Bible? a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.
(15) How the word Messiah was transmuted to Christ? Write for booklet above, reference 13.
written by Nimrod , November 05, 2009
written by karan , November 10, 2009
Arent you aware that as per "ISLAMIC Beliefs" BIBLE,TORAH etc are corrupted books.Muhammed himself mentioned this ?If you are fooling around then the only person you are fooling is yourself because most people on this forum are pretty much aware of such simple facts about Islam.People are also aware of Taqqiya - I am not saying that you are lying but probably you are not aware of Islam properly.
For countries in the West to remain as free democratic societies, USA, UK and other west European countries will have to remain as predominantly Christian societies. And for democracy to survive in Asia, India will have to remain predominantly as a Hindu country, with an overwhelming Hindu (and Sikh, Jain & Buddhist) population. The whole world should actively support these countries in these twin aims, and if it means limiting muslim sections by force, expulsions and migration laws, then so be it.
If the above steps are not taken, USA and Europe will slowly but surely move towards becoming Islamic states. India, on the other hand, is hemmed in by Shia Sunni theocracies like Iran and Pakistan on the one side, and by autocracies like Burma and China on the other. It needs all the help it can get to remain democratic.