A Muslim army psychiatrist burst into a bout of Jihadi fit, shooting at soldiers lined up for signing for deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan, killing 12 and wounding 31. It appears to another perfect case of the familiar "Sudden Jihadi Syndrome" among Muslims...
We have heard too often from Muslim public relations czars in the West that Muslims are peaceful patriotic people. Muslim American citizens would tell you that they are patriotic; they love America; America is their home. President Obama would tell you that America is a Muslim nation, that Muslims have made great contributions to the making of America.
So, when a Jihadi attack occurs or a Jihadi terror plot is busted, the so-called moderate Muslims would go around shrilling that the entire Muslim community should not be maligned for the actions of a few bad apples.
While it is undeniable that most Muslims go about their business on most days like any other peaceful citizen, it also becomes clear that quite often an otherwise-most-peaceful Muslim give in to the teaching and the urge to carry out Jihad, his holy duty to Allah/Muhammad and his faith. This well-established pattern, the ‘Sudden Jihadi Syndrome’, it seems, has struck in America once again.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, trained as army psychiatrist, had his day on Thursday, Nov. 5. Stricken by a bout of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome, he went on rampage of shooting and massacring his colleagues at the Fort Hood Army Base in Texas, killing 13 and wounding another 30.
While some papers, like Huffington Post, are trying to raise doubts as to whether Major Hasan is a Muslim at all, Hasan’s cousin, told ABC News that he was "a pious lifelong Muslim".
Born in Virginia to Jordanian parents and single with no children, Hasan had worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington for 6 years before he was reassigned to Fort Hood July. In 2009, according to ABC News, he completed a fellowship in Disaster and Preventative Psychiatry at the Center for Traumatic Stress there.
One is left to wonder whether Hasan was a marginalized extremist, although some Muslim public relations and media mouthpiece may portray him as one to be so.
It was a perfect moment for Hasan to carry out his pious duty of Jihad, which according to Ghazzali, Muslims should do at least once a year, while Muhammad and his companions did it continuously while in Medina. And the moment was:
Army recruits had lined up to sign up for going to Iraq and Afghanistan; these are infidels readying themselves for defiling the Muslim lands and kill his Muslim brethren; there’s no better way to do Jihad for his faith than taking these infidel murderers down; he took two handguns to work; and as the recruits lined up in columns to sign up, Hasan took his loaded handguns out in his two hands and started shooting into the column to soldiers to take down as many as possible.
The end-result of Jihad effort was astounding: 12 infidel soldiers dead; 30 others wounded. He has outperformed Muhammad’s stellar performance at the famous victory at Badr, where there were 15 Muslim casualties against 49 opponents.
CAIR, the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations, the largest Islamic civil rights organization in America with numerous terror links, was quick in its public- diplomacy and damage-control effort, condemning the massacre and reaffirming Muslim patriotism toward America:
“We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible… The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured.”
This brings me once again to the much-touted Muslims’ love, loyalty and patriotism for kafir countries. In India, the Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind (The Board of Islamic Clerics of India) issued on October 30, 2009 as Fatwa (Resolution) in its annual meet prohibiting Muslims from singing the Indian national anthem (Vande Mataram), because it goes against Islam. Maulana Muizuddin of the board said, “We are Indian and will remain so forever without singing Vande Mataram”, while Kamal Farouqi, another leaders of the board said: “We love the nation, but can’t worship it.”
The bottom-line is: even for Indian Muslims, Indian in flesh and blood and known to be moderate, loyalty to Islam must come ahead of any other obligation. So, it should not be difficult to understand the thickness of the loyalty of Muslim immigrants to countries like America and Britain, whose culture and lifestyle Muslims hate to the core of their heart, despite their (moderate’s) vociferous affirmation of the same.
And, how about the obligation for carrying out the sacred command of Jihad, which I have shown in my book, Islamic Jihad, to be the heart of Islam?
Well, it would come at the right moment, when it is practical and winnable. India, 1947 was one such moment, and it was resounding success. Maj. Hasan found his perfect moment here at Fort Hood, and he executed it with spectacular success. Prophet Muhammad, sitting in heaven, might be feeling jealous as well as proud of him.
The good news is that, against initial report of Major Hasan being shot dead, he is in custody and we may look forward to getting into the working of the mind of this Sudden Jihadi.
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written by abdul , November 06, 2009
the only way to reduce terorist is to to adapte an assimilation plocy those muslim who refduse not to convet in humanity should be deported immiadtly
written by Tony , November 06, 2009
to Abdul Wahab - you are just pouring out the usual whitewash. If Islam did not exist, would this have happened? Just try getting a brain!
written by Yamna Arif , November 06, 2009
wowwww isnt it amazing you guys just got another toy to play with!!! another opportunity to make islam look bad!!!bravo!!!!!! you must be sooooo excited ! shit heads you'll soon learn the truth.
written by Nimrod , November 06, 2009
we are tired of all that whitewash of dead men grave,the Americans and the political correct leaders will soon be enlightened enough to take the right decision of the Islamic cult under the cover of religion. Very soon the can of shit wrapped in a beutiful color that as been admired by the West for years without caring to know the content of the percel has been exposed in the internent and by what we see in the countries that believe in the cult religion and as national belief system. Wahap thinks he will continue to fools us, only the blind and the brainless moron like him that will be continued to be fooled by the Mohammadans that theirs is religion of peace. Why is it that is only islamic terrorism you hear of alll over the world. Why should your scripture the Quran the only source and inspiration for the 98% of world terrorism.Use your brain and logic to come out of darkness to the world of humanity.If you want to follow a prophet teaching go to Jesus the sinless and holy Messiah given for the salvation of the world instead of following a terrorist, a mass murderer, a rapist, an assassins,poligamist, a padophile, womaniser, a demon possesed and con artist under the guise of a Prophet.
written by ex-Muslim , November 06, 2009
Abdul Wahad:
The word jihad means to strive, struggle (in the way of Allah).
Jusitce is the way of Allah.
Helping the weak is the way of Allah
Spending your wealth to help others is the way of Allah
Saving Lives is the way of Allah.
Hoo, quite true. that's why:
1. Muhammad struggled in the way of Allah to slaughter, plunder and rape the infidels as best as he could;
2. He rendered justice in the way of Allah by slaughtering the innocent infidels;
3. He helped the weak (Muslims) by plundering the infidels and taking 1/5th share of it by himself as approved by Allah;
4. He plunder the kafirs to spend in Allah's way
5. He saved lives by slaughtering the kafirs in large numbers
In Islam saving one life is like saving all of humanity.
If true, Muhammad killed humanity thousands of times by killing thousands of innocent kafirs.
written by non believer , November 06, 2009
Why don't you take up the issues with Taliban,Al Qaida, Jaish e Mohammed and countless such organisations and tell them that? Why do you presume that every thing is perfect in Islam. There are so many aspects which need reformation. The main problem with ISLAM AND Muslims is believing that every thing is absolute truth. Many in these columns have shown you the stupidities in Koran and Hadiths. No body objects if your Islam has only good things you have enumerated. Most of all religions say the same. Most of the religions have identified the stupidities in their religion by meaningful debates, analysis and have reformed or are in the process of doing so. But you Muslims never are ready to use your brains, debate, analyze and remove the stupidities. Any body talking about these stupidities has to be killed by crying hoarse of Blasphemy. When will your religion improve? You don't even tolerate your own different sects. Shias Kill Sunnies and vice versa. What is Taliban doing? Killing muslims of Pakistan and Afganisthan. What is Al Qaida doing? If you can't reform to be civilized you deserve the flak
written by The Grand Kaffir of Infidelistan , November 06, 2009
Guys,
If you'd stop to think for a minute, you'd realise it's pretty pointless trying to spread your whitewash on a site called "Islam Watch".
No dhimmis here guys.
If you'd stop to think for a minute, you'd realise it's pretty pointless trying to spread your whitewash on a site called "Islam Watch".
No dhimmis here guys.
islam is world most pieceful religion,we only give peace to people after they r in pieces.
koran is most piecefull-pissful book,pls read it,we only kill infidels,we dont kill true believers.
what is wrong with killing infidels ?? allah and muahedm ordained jihad and we do it.
we r very secular,for us a jew-christian-buddhist-atheist r same we treat them same we kill them all.
we do not discriminate.
so pls leave islam alone and free the american army guy,he is innocwent he only killed kafirs.
koran is most piecefull-pissful book,pls read it,we only kill infidels,we dont kill true believers.
what is wrong with killing infidels ?? allah and muahedm ordained jihad and we do it.
we r very secular,for us a jew-christian-buddhist-atheist r same we treat them same we kill them all.
we do not discriminate.
so pls leave islam alone and free the american army guy,he is innocwent he only killed kafirs.
written by The Grand Kaffir of Infidelistan , November 06, 2009
Way wrong title dude, but anywho,
How can we leave islam out of it?
Qur'an 98:6—Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islam, the Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikun will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Sahih Muslim 30—It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2785—Narrated Abu Hurairah: A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, “Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2796—Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, . . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2810—Narrated Abu Musa: A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them is in Allah’s Cause?” The Prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e., Allah’s religion of Islamic Monotheism) be superior, is in Allah’s Cause.”
Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”
Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”
Ibn Ishaq, p. 130—[Muhammad said]: "Will you listen to me O Quraysh? By him who holds my life in His hand I bring you slaughter."
What, don't read your own propaganda?
How can we leave islam out of it?
Qur'an 98:6—Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islam, the Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikun will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Sahih Muslim 30—It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2785—Narrated Abu Hurairah: A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said, “Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2796—Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, . . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 2810—Narrated Abu Musa: A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them is in Allah’s Cause?” The Prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e., Allah’s religion of Islamic Monotheism) be superior, is in Allah’s Cause.”
Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”
Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”
Ibn Ishaq, p. 130—[Muhammad said]: "Will you listen to me O Quraysh? By him who holds my life in His hand I bring you slaughter."
What, don't read your own propaganda?
written by Machmoed elchalid , November 06, 2009
God of abraham, god of the bible, Allah. Jews who kill christians, Christians who kill jews and muslims and Muslims who kill jews and christians. Let them kill each other, cuase they diserve eachother. In 614 A.D. the jews helped the persians kill christians and burn churches etc. The cristians killed a lot of jews an jews were not allowed in jaruzalem. Then when Umar came he conquered jaruzalem and the jews were allowed again. The story/facts keep going on. The muslims helpen the jews more than christians. Muslims, Jews, Christians...the same foolish humans. I hate what they did in the past...so much bloodshed and so many innocent people were killed. Whenever a christian, muslim, jew think that his believe/religion is the better than the other is just prethetic and does not know the history. Death to religion in general and the abraham religions in perticular.
written by Tom Billesley , November 06, 2009
It would be apropos to use the phrase
"..and Islam is the religion of peace"
in the same way that Mark Antony used the phrase
"..and Brutus is an Honourable Man"
"..and Islam is the religion of peace"
in the same way that Mark Antony used the phrase
"..and Brutus is an Honourable Man"
written by duh_swami , November 06, 2009
Quran 8:39...'Fight them until' only Allah is worshipped...Until has never been achieved and never will...The result...perpetual warfare...Hasan is the tip of the iceberg...
Abdul Wahab
You disagree with Mr Kahn’s article and analysis, then you say: ‘That is not true AS FAR AS WHAT I KNOW.’
From my point of view:
Why should I believe you instead of Mr Kahn?
Why should I believe you instead of the hundreds of suicide bombers who in the last decade have called themselves Muslim and shouted Alla u Akbar before ending their life while ending the lives of others around them?
Why should I believe you instead of the thousands who are part of the Mujahdeen throughout the world who recruit such ‘fighters’?
Why should I believe you instead of the many millions who applaud Osama Bin Laden in whatever he does?
So tell me Abdul Wahab what do you know? What do you really know about Islam and its teaching as regards oppressing and killing non-Muslims? Do you know more than all these?
And don’t just tell us it is not true, please do quote some ayas and suras and examples from the life of Mohammed to show that: ‘A muslim is someone who submits to the will of God and a doer of peace.’
This begs several questions though. E.g. What is the nature of your ‘God/Allah’?
What do you mean by ‘peace’?
I look forward to your reply.
You disagree with Mr Kahn’s article and analysis, then you say: ‘That is not true AS FAR AS WHAT I KNOW.’
From my point of view:
Why should I believe you instead of Mr Kahn?
Why should I believe you instead of the hundreds of suicide bombers who in the last decade have called themselves Muslim and shouted Alla u Akbar before ending their life while ending the lives of others around them?
Why should I believe you instead of the thousands who are part of the Mujahdeen throughout the world who recruit such ‘fighters’?
Why should I believe you instead of the many millions who applaud Osama Bin Laden in whatever he does?
So tell me Abdul Wahab what do you know? What do you really know about Islam and its teaching as regards oppressing and killing non-Muslims? Do you know more than all these?
And don’t just tell us it is not true, please do quote some ayas and suras and examples from the life of Mohammed to show that: ‘A muslim is someone who submits to the will of God and a doer of peace.’
This begs several questions though. E.g. What is the nature of your ‘God/Allah’?
What do you mean by ‘peace’?
I look forward to your reply.
written by Louie , November 06, 2009
I just bet that this audience is familiar with the Quran.
This fellow here with the guns violated the Quran. He had a treaty with the US military. Before he was scripturally okay to jihad at Ft. Hood, the Quran demands that he void the treaty. He was still under the terms of his contract, and the Quaran is very clear that he was not free to attack.
Now did he know this? Probably so... he is a life long Muslim who is evidently religious... you know he was giving away copies of the Quran before this happened... but he himself was in violation of the Quran. Mainstram Islam says that this fellow was sinning.
Still, yes he is another AllahuAkbar disgracing his god and his religion.
This fellow here with the guns violated the Quran. He had a treaty with the US military. Before he was scripturally okay to jihad at Ft. Hood, the Quran demands that he void the treaty. He was still under the terms of his contract, and the Quaran is very clear that he was not free to attack.
Now did he know this? Probably so... he is a life long Muslim who is evidently religious... you know he was giving away copies of the Quran before this happened... but he himself was in violation of the Quran. Mainstram Islam says that this fellow was sinning.
Still, yes he is another AllahuAkbar disgracing his god and his religion.
written by Abdul Wahab , November 06, 2009
The nature of my God Allah is given in Chapter 112 of the Quran Surah Ikhlas
He is Allah, one and only
Allah The eternal, absolute
He begets not, nor was he begotten
And there is none comparable to him
You are correct. hundreds, in fact thousands of muslims are taking innocent lives in the name of jihad. forgive for not quoting verses from the quran. the only reason i said as far as what i know is because as a muslim i will be held liable for any incorrect information that i give out, which is why we muslims say Allah (god) knows better.
As far as osama bin ladin is concerned, tell me something. Did u actually hear about him before 9-11. I dont know how he comes into the picture, if u are referring to Osama with reference to the the attacks of 9-11 then thats an entirely different topic which the whole world knows was an inside job. the world that does not believe everything cnn or bbc says.
the world islam has to 2 meanings i.e submission and peace because islam comes from salaam which means peace which is why the muslims way to greet someone is "assalamu-alaik-um warah matullah wabarakatu" i.emay the peace and mercy of God be upon u.
Mu" means "Doer" and "Slm" means Peace, thus Muslim= Doer of Peace)
as far as quoting verses from the quran are concerned, i will get back to u on that within a day or 2 because i do not remember them by heart. however im not a scholar of islam and my knowledge is very limited, but here are some useful websites. i would suggest you just take a look at them because we know that its always best to hear both sides of the argument
www.bayyinah.com - Nouman Ali Khan's website
www.tubeislam.com - You can figure this one out
www.ummahfilms.com - Baba Ali's Website (the guy is hilarious)
www.scienceislam.com - Islam and Science
www.islamtomorrow.com - Yusuf Estes site (one of the many)
www.shareislam.com - Another Yusuf Estes site
www.links2islam.com - Another of his sites with many links
www.thedeenshow.com - The guy is hilarious its a talk show
www.idca.org.au - Australian dawah centre
www.Quranexplorer.com - Tafseer+learning Arabic+translation
www.AllahsQuran.com - Great way to understnd n learn classical Arabic
www.Qtafsir.com - Whole Ibn Kathir Tafseer (explanation of verses in Quran according to context etc..)
He is Allah, one and only
Allah The eternal, absolute
He begets not, nor was he begotten
And there is none comparable to him
You are correct. hundreds, in fact thousands of muslims are taking innocent lives in the name of jihad. forgive for not quoting verses from the quran. the only reason i said as far as what i know is because as a muslim i will be held liable for any incorrect information that i give out, which is why we muslims say Allah (god) knows better.
As far as osama bin ladin is concerned, tell me something. Did u actually hear about him before 9-11. I dont know how he comes into the picture, if u are referring to Osama with reference to the the attacks of 9-11 then thats an entirely different topic which the whole world knows was an inside job. the world that does not believe everything cnn or bbc says.
the world islam has to 2 meanings i.e submission and peace because islam comes from salaam which means peace which is why the muslims way to greet someone is "assalamu-alaik-um warah matullah wabarakatu" i.emay the peace and mercy of God be upon u.
Mu" means "Doer" and "Slm" means Peace, thus Muslim= Doer of Peace)
as far as quoting verses from the quran are concerned, i will get back to u on that within a day or 2 because i do not remember them by heart. however im not a scholar of islam and my knowledge is very limited, but here are some useful websites. i would suggest you just take a look at them because we know that its always best to hear both sides of the argument
www.bayyinah.com - Nouman Ali Khan's website
www.tubeislam.com - You can figure this one out
www.ummahfilms.com - Baba Ali's Website (the guy is hilarious)
www.scienceislam.com - Islam and Science
www.islamtomorrow.com - Yusuf Estes site (one of the many)
www.shareislam.com - Another Yusuf Estes site
www.links2islam.com - Another of his sites with many links
www.thedeenshow.com - The guy is hilarious its a talk show
www.idca.org.au - Australian dawah centre
www.Quranexplorer.com - Tafseer+learning Arabic+translation
www.AllahsQuran.com - Great way to understnd n learn classical Arabic
www.Qtafsir.com - Whole Ibn Kathir Tafseer (explanation of verses in Quran according to context etc..)
written by Kohi , November 06, 2009
The sad bottom line is no muslim can really be trusted can they?
written by pugo , November 06, 2009
Islam is pissful and not peaceful. Stop doing the Tauqqia u bastard muslims... Evryone understands islam is a curse on humanity
written by jonc , November 06, 2009
Louie:
I think that you may have forgotten Mo's "get out clause" on treaties.
K 8:58 "If thou fearest treachery from any group [of unbelievers], throw back (their covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms: for Allah loveth not the treacherous." (Y.Ali, emphasis and [] mine)
Note that muslims only have to fear some sort of"treachery" to be treacherous themselves and break any contract with a "Kaffir". As a muslim you are always entitled to "get your retaliation in first".
So, I agree that Hasan probably knew all about "treaties" and "contracts" under Islamic Law and the fact that if he felt be was about to be "betrayed" - perhaps by having to go and fight his "brother" moslems - meant that he was no longer beholden to his oaths etc, which were only to the America not Allah after all, and so could murder with a clear "justification" from the Koran.
I think that you may have forgotten Mo's "get out clause" on treaties.
K 8:58 "If thou fearest treachery from any group [of unbelievers], throw back (their covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms: for Allah loveth not the treacherous." (Y.Ali, emphasis and [] mine)
Note that muslims only have to fear some sort of"treachery" to be treacherous themselves and break any contract with a "Kaffir". As a muslim you are always entitled to "get your retaliation in first".
So, I agree that Hasan probably knew all about "treaties" and "contracts" under Islamic Law and the fact that if he felt be was about to be "betrayed" - perhaps by having to go and fight his "brother" moslems - meant that he was no longer beholden to his oaths etc, which were only to the America not Allah after all, and so could murder with a clear "justification" from the Koran.
I don`t see what all the fuss is.Those yanks were preparing to go and kill muslim women,children and old folk.
It`s not like they were civillians going about their everyday business.These were trained and experienced killers,in transit to the US latest crime scene,Afghanistan.
Seems to me,that if you intend to kill and maim,you must expect the same .
However, I must point out ,in no way do I condone the "tragic" events in Texas.
It`s not like they were civillians going about their everyday business.These were trained and experienced killers,in transit to the US latest crime scene,Afghanistan.
Seems to me,that if you intend to kill and maim,you must expect the same .
However, I must point out ,in no way do I condone the "tragic" events in Texas.
written by JohanM , November 06, 2009
Islam instills the criminal bent in the minds of its inherents. More pious muslim means more criminal tendancy.
What the Muslim Hesan did at Fort Hood, well lets just leave it be best explained by the words of Jesus for He did teach "by thieir fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:20. [KJV]
Why do you keep repeating your Islamophobic filth?
Surely you don`t believe it,do you?
What really gets to you(if your honest enough to admit it),is multiculturalism and race mixing.
I can smell a white supremacist at a 100 paces.If you wasn`t here you`d probably be in some neo nazi website calling for deportation of black and mixed race people from western europe.
Surely you don`t believe it,do you?
What really gets to you(if your honest enough to admit it),is multiculturalism and race mixing.
I can smell a white supremacist at a 100 paces.If you wasn`t here you`d probably be in some neo nazi website calling for deportation of black and mixed race people from western europe.
written by The Grand Kaffir of Infidelistan , November 06, 2009
So by your reasoning, since muslims have demonstrated a penchant for killing infidels, and mosques are basically a training ground for muslims, then as an infidel I should be justified in dusting off the old shotgun and heading down to the nearest one next friday for a spot of hunting?
Pathetic dude, really pathetic.
Pathetic dude, really pathetic.
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written by saladin , November 06, 2009
I don`t see what all the fuss is.Those yanks were preparing to go and kill muslim women,children and old folk.
It`s not like they were civillians going about their everyday business.These were trained and experienced killers,in transit to the US latest crime scene,Afghanistan.
Seems to me,that if you intend to kill and maim,you must expect the same .
However, I must point out ,in no way do I condone the "tragic" events in Texas. "
YOU FAIL TO DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THE KILLINGS AS THOUGH THEY ARE EQUAL. THIS IS WHAT MORAL RELATIVISM DOES TO THE HUMAN MIND. IT CEASES TO SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, GUILTY AND INNOCENT.
written by saladin , November 06, 2009
I don`t see what all the fuss is.Those yanks were preparing to go and kill muslim women,children and old folk.
It`s not like they were civillians going about their everyday business.These were trained and experienced killers,in transit to the US latest crime scene,Afghanistan.
Seems to me,that if you intend to kill and maim,you must expect the same .
However, I must point out ,in no way do I condone the "tragic" events in Texas. "
YOU FAIL TO DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THE KILLINGS AS THOUGH THEY ARE EQUAL. THIS IS WHAT MORAL RELATIVISM DOES TO THE HUMAN MIND. IT CEASES TO SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, GUILTY AND INNOCENT.
written by Mule , November 06, 2009
What race is islam?
The soldiers have no intent to kill old men, women and children but only those who are attacking them with the intent to take their lives. That is the right of self defence As far as killing muslim men, women and children are concerned it is the muslims themselves who are the most effective at doing this. But this does not seem to be a crime in Saladin's eyes. Only when the kuffar succeed in doing it.
The soldiers have no intent to kill old men, women and children but only those who are attacking them with the intent to take their lives. That is the right of self defence As far as killing muslim men, women and children are concerned it is the muslims themselves who are the most effective at doing this. But this does not seem to be a crime in Saladin's eyes. Only when the kuffar succeed in doing it.
written by jbrl12357 , November 06, 2009
"Seems to me,that if you intend to kill and maim,you must expect the same ."
It seemed that way to Mohammed also.
Hence he had Asma bin Marwant killed in her sleep as she lay wth her children.
The same happened with the 100 year old man, a poet and a critic of Mohammed.
The Jewish tribe where all the innocent women and children were sold into slavery after their men were killed is another terrible example of the murder of innocents. The list is lengthy.
These are not accidental killings. The morality of "collateral damage"
can be argued, (how much collateral damage is acceptable, etc, ) but it is not equivalent to purposely killing innocents.he Unless the mullahs and islamic scholars are wiling to say that what Mohammed did was wrong in these and other similar instances, Islam will remain mired in its tendency to rationalize violence against innocents.
It seemed that way to Mohammed also.
Hence he had Asma bin Marwant killed in her sleep as she lay wth her children.
The same happened with the 100 year old man, a poet and a critic of Mohammed.
The Jewish tribe where all the innocent women and children were sold into slavery after their men were killed is another terrible example of the murder of innocents. The list is lengthy.
These are not accidental killings. The morality of "collateral damage"
can be argued, (how much collateral damage is acceptable, etc, ) but it is not equivalent to purposely killing innocents.he Unless the mullahs and islamic scholars are wiling to say that what Mohammed did was wrong in these and other similar instances, Islam will remain mired in its tendency to rationalize violence against innocents.
written by globetrotter , November 06, 2009
Never trust a mOSLEM. A moslem may behave nice and sweet outwardly - but inside gowing and burning with envy,jealousy,wickedness cruelty inside and it is a matter of time when all that hatred,jealousy,evil,envy, wickedness will explode with disastrous consequences.
...... HAI SALADIN ISLAMIC monster - you are enjoying all the generosity,nobility,magnanimity,kindness,compassion , given ,shown,bestowed on you moslem by the nonmoslems- in return you will give death,destruction,rape,loot,evil,cruelty,murder . How can you sleep even 1 minute . I know the answer - You are a moslem demon - ISLAM will make you inhuman,cruel,extremely savage,extremely hatefilled, Extremely poisonous in the human form. What are the rights, place of nonmoslems in Moslem countries ? Can they talk like you against ISLAM and Moslems in moslem countries ? NO. ISLAM - the plague, the cancer - must be eradicated from the civilized world.
...... HAI SALADIN ISLAMIC monster - you are enjoying all the generosity,nobility,magnanimity,kindness,compassion , given ,shown,bestowed on you moslem by the nonmoslems- in return you will give death,destruction,rape,loot,evil,cruelty,murder . How can you sleep even 1 minute . I know the answer - You are a moslem demon - ISLAM will make you inhuman,cruel,extremely savage,extremely hatefilled, Extremely poisonous in the human form. What are the rights, place of nonmoslems in Moslem countries ? Can they talk like you against ISLAM and Moslems in moslem countries ? NO. ISLAM - the plague, the cancer - must be eradicated from the civilized world.
written by oswald , November 06, 2009
Abdul Wahab says
That is a passage in the Jewish scriptures and it has been collected into the Koran (Koran means collection) along with other stories lifted from Jewish and Christian scriptures. However it is brought into the Koran in quoted form, where 'Allah' says "I told the Israelites that saving one life is like saving humanity, and that taking one life was like taking the life of humanity".
Abdul Wahab left out both (1) the fact that it a quote of a passage meant for Jews AND (2) the second half of the quote.
The signficance of this omission is that the situation where the quote was said by 'Allah'was that the Jews had, 'Allah' alleged, done in a couple of Muslims (probably for issuing the usual ultimatum, you know, the one about convert or die) so had invoked the second half of the passage and thereby deserved the fate about to fall upon them.
That passage Abdul is about justifying violent jihad, and you know it.
In Islam saving one life is like saving all of humanity.No its not.
That is a passage in the Jewish scriptures and it has been collected into the Koran (Koran means collection) along with other stories lifted from Jewish and Christian scriptures. However it is brought into the Koran in quoted form, where 'Allah' says "I told the Israelites that saving one life is like saving humanity, and that taking one life was like taking the life of humanity".
Abdul Wahab left out both (1) the fact that it a quote of a passage meant for Jews AND (2) the second half of the quote.
The signficance of this omission is that the situation where the quote was said by 'Allah'was that the Jews had, 'Allah' alleged, done in a couple of Muslims (probably for issuing the usual ultimatum, you know, the one about convert or die) so had invoked the second half of the passage and thereby deserved the fate about to fall upon them.
That passage Abdul is about justifying violent jihad, and you know it.
written by Joel B , November 06, 2009
It has always been the custom of bullies, tyrants and despots to marginalize their enemies by demeaning them. Fanatical Muslims are no different. When faced with the facts (well documented over the centuries) of violent Jihad, they refer to the purveyors of those facts as "Islamophobes" and "racists". The history of violent Jihad is there for anyone to research - demonizing the messenger will not make it go away, and does nothing to advance the cause of Muslims.
written by Rationalist , November 07, 2009
MA Khan wrote: "Prophet Muhammad, sitting in heaven, might be feeling jealous as well as proud of him."
Correction: Pro-fart Muhammad, dying in Hell, might be feeling jealous as well as proud of him
Rationalist
Correction: Pro-fart Muhammad, dying in Hell, might be feeling jealous as well as proud of him
Rationalist
written by LingYa , November 07, 2009
Regular lesson in Islam, can convert American Psychiatrist into American Psycho, so don’t underestimate Islam.
Application of force can only keep Islamists at bay for while but not for ever, long term solution is civilised education and undoing brainwashing. To do that we first need to understand, some basic techniques of Islamic brainwashing, so to get an idea of what’s inside a radical Muslim brain.
(Note: Limitations of topic is only for ordinary mislead people, not for masterminds who got huge stake involved in propagating Islam.)
Imam preach subject with huge passion and energy, even if you know that only a salesman selling rubbish will do very aggressive marketing, but the energy and passion in the preaching is such that subject start suspecting the reality and logic presented to him by his human senses and brain. The subject start thinking, Imam may be right otherwise how could someone be so confident and passionate about what he is telling. The technique is similar to the argument technique used by Hypnotist to make the hypnotised subject agree with his wrong arguments and statements.
Lot of stress is placed on unquestionably act upon what Allah/Mo have to say and Allah will look after everything. When people life start deteriorating then non-Muslims are blamed for all of their troubles and they are assured that they cannot do wrong as they have become faultless by following path shown by Allah.
For subtle brainwashing, stories like below are told with great passion
One day a Muslim and Jew were fighting over some land, so they went to Mo for justice, on listening to them Mo awarded the land to Jew. But the Muslim was not satisfied with the decision so he went to second in command, who told them that if Mo have said something then it must be right. The Muslim was still not satisfied, so they went to third in command who was hot headed, he immediately beheaded the Muslim man. On hearing about this, Mo came to third in command and asked him about beheading, he told Mo, if you have said something then how dared he challenge your decision.
Ordinary people may not find anything unusual about the story but their brain is subtly influenced. By awarding land to Jew, Mo is establishing himself as most kind and just person, who even will do justice with a Jewish enemy. Second in command is inspiring the ordinary Muslims that if Mo have said/done something, then he must be right, don’t think anything about it, carry on with your usual business. The third in command is inspiring the fanatics to kill anyone who insult Mo or Islam or do anything against principles of Islam, even if the person being killed is your fellow Muslim brother or relative and you will have glory in Islam just like third in command.
To undo this, whenever possible don’t challenge their faith directly but by means of stories and examples, try that questions regarding blindly following leaders or using senseless violence as a solution for everything, comes from inside their brain.
Application of force can only keep Islamists at bay for while but not for ever, long term solution is civilised education and undoing brainwashing. To do that we first need to understand, some basic techniques of Islamic brainwashing, so to get an idea of what’s inside a radical Muslim brain.
(Note: Limitations of topic is only for ordinary mislead people, not for masterminds who got huge stake involved in propagating Islam.)
Imam preach subject with huge passion and energy, even if you know that only a salesman selling rubbish will do very aggressive marketing, but the energy and passion in the preaching is such that subject start suspecting the reality and logic presented to him by his human senses and brain. The subject start thinking, Imam may be right otherwise how could someone be so confident and passionate about what he is telling. The technique is similar to the argument technique used by Hypnotist to make the hypnotised subject agree with his wrong arguments and statements.
Lot of stress is placed on unquestionably act upon what Allah/Mo have to say and Allah will look after everything. When people life start deteriorating then non-Muslims are blamed for all of their troubles and they are assured that they cannot do wrong as they have become faultless by following path shown by Allah.
For subtle brainwashing, stories like below are told with great passion
One day a Muslim and Jew were fighting over some land, so they went to Mo for justice, on listening to them Mo awarded the land to Jew. But the Muslim was not satisfied with the decision so he went to second in command, who told them that if Mo have said something then it must be right. The Muslim was still not satisfied, so they went to third in command who was hot headed, he immediately beheaded the Muslim man. On hearing about this, Mo came to third in command and asked him about beheading, he told Mo, if you have said something then how dared he challenge your decision.
Ordinary people may not find anything unusual about the story but their brain is subtly influenced. By awarding land to Jew, Mo is establishing himself as most kind and just person, who even will do justice with a Jewish enemy. Second in command is inspiring the ordinary Muslims that if Mo have said/done something, then he must be right, don’t think anything about it, carry on with your usual business. The third in command is inspiring the fanatics to kill anyone who insult Mo or Islam or do anything against principles of Islam, even if the person being killed is your fellow Muslim brother or relative and you will have glory in Islam just like third in command.
To undo this, whenever possible don’t challenge their faith directly but by means of stories and examples, try that questions regarding blindly following leaders or using senseless violence as a solution for everything, comes from inside their brain.
written by traeh , November 07, 2009
Muhammad said, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."
Muhammad said some variation of those words many times, as recorded in many canonical Islamic traditions, and that is why all the schools of Islamic law call for the death penalty for apostates from Islam.
There is so much more, in Islam's doctrines, its history, and its present, to show that despite the existence of some moderate Muslims, Islam itself is totalitarian.
Many mainstream analysts have pointed out that Europe, demographically, is rapidly trending Muslim due to immigration and differential levels of reproduction. Something like one-third of all babies currently born in France have an Islamic name. Already, freedom of speech in Europe is diminishing in response to Muslim demands and threats, but that is to be expected if one surveys the human rights records of all the Muslim-majority nations in the world.
Or simply have a look at the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, signed by more than 50 Islamic nations. The Cairo Declaration "corrects" the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights by giving Islamic law the right to decide which human rights are really human rights, and which rights must be outlawed by Islam.
Muhammad said some variation of those words many times, as recorded in many canonical Islamic traditions, and that is why all the schools of Islamic law call for the death penalty for apostates from Islam.
There is so much more, in Islam's doctrines, its history, and its present, to show that despite the existence of some moderate Muslims, Islam itself is totalitarian.
Many mainstream analysts have pointed out that Europe, demographically, is rapidly trending Muslim due to immigration and differential levels of reproduction. Something like one-third of all babies currently born in France have an Islamic name. Already, freedom of speech in Europe is diminishing in response to Muslim demands and threats, but that is to be expected if one surveys the human rights records of all the Muslim-majority nations in the world.
Or simply have a look at the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, signed by more than 50 Islamic nations. The Cairo Declaration "corrects" the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights by giving Islamic law the right to decide which human rights are really human rights, and which rights must be outlawed by Islam.
written by wb , November 07, 2009
remember fort hood is the rallying cry. time to do what the government refuses to do. we have been sold out by the elites. american men and women were brutally slaughtered by this nutcase. if hasa survives he should get the death penalty, then bury him wrapped in pig guts so his soul can't go to paradise. the people in the media are working for the other side. they should pay fro their treason at msnbc. to hell with all muslims, they are members of a fanatical, satanic cult. they deserve no mercy.
written by Globe trotter , November 07, 2009
This is totally true. Once a person believes in ISLAM/MO/ALLA , either man/woman or young/old - then their psyche is different - which is very cruel,evil thinking,burning with jealousy /envy against all nonmoslems. Outwardly, the moslems show great friendly behaviour towards westerners to entice them, to play taqiyya, but inside the moslems are planning how to convert,how to destroy ,how to rape the kafirs, how to kill the infidels . Moslems have no morals, no conscience, no honesty,no truthfulness in them - both muslim/moslimas. Moslems are so ungreatful, with full of hostility,animosity against infidels. Moslems shamelessly are sucking the blood of kafirs,infidels, and the kafirs,infidels are unbelieveably generous,magnanimous ,kind, and so much understanding and foolishly appeasing,pandering to Moslems to the maximum . Moslems do not deserve none of this - as they (MOSLEMS) are real demons, satans, evil/wicked doers with utmost cruelty ,bloodthirsty gluttoonous . We ask Moslems - why are you so inhuman,cruel ? why your ALLA made you so plague like ? How can we make you human ?
YOUR ALLAH COMMANDS YOU TO KILL UNBELIEVERS
IF YOU DO NOT OBEY TO ALLAH, YOU WILL BURN IN HELL . . .
THEN, WHY NOT ALLAH KILL THE UNBELIEVERS THEMSELVES???
EVERYTIME I SEE A MUSLIM PERSON, I CAN SEE IN THEIR FACES THE HATRED WITHIN . . .MENACING EYES AND THE SUSPICIOUS EYEBROWSSS
AND THAT IS A PIOUS MUSLIM . . .THE RELIGIOUS MUSLIM?
THEY ARE THE FIERY RHETORITICIANS WHO OPENLY DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE WEST, YET LIVING IN THE WEST . . .
IF YOU DO NOT OBEY TO ALLAH, YOU WILL BURN IN HELL . . .
THEN, WHY NOT ALLAH KILL THE UNBELIEVERS THEMSELVES???
EVERYTIME I SEE A MUSLIM PERSON, I CAN SEE IN THEIR FACES THE HATRED WITHIN . . .MENACING EYES AND THE SUSPICIOUS EYEBROWSSS
AND THAT IS A PIOUS MUSLIM . . .THE RELIGIOUS MUSLIM?
THEY ARE THE FIERY RHETORITICIANS WHO OPENLY DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE WEST, YET LIVING IN THE WEST . . .
written by 9-11 Infidel , November 07, 2009
Gee wiz, I see so many misunderstanders of the religion of peace here.
Jihad has two components. The lesser jihad which is quital (sp?) or war against the infidels.And the only way a Muslim jihadist can get to Paradise without worrying about his Jinn.
Then there is the greater jihad which is a personal struggle against self.
Every Muslim in the Mideast and everywhere else knows that when the word "jihad" is used...it means war against the infidels.
So cut the crap.
Jihad has two components. The lesser jihad which is quital (sp?) or war against the infidels.And the only way a Muslim jihadist can get to Paradise without worrying about his Jinn.
Then there is the greater jihad which is a personal struggle against self.
Every Muslim in the Mideast and everywhere else knows that when the word "jihad" is used...it means war against the infidels.
So cut the crap.
written by vbv , November 07, 2009
You have a lame excuse blaming americans' attrocities in Iraq. But you have no excuse of muslims killing thousands every year in the name of 'jihad' in India . You cannot say muslims are oppressed or discriminated in India. The top movie stars most adulated here in India are Shah Rukh Khan, Amir Khan and Salman Khan ,also Katrina Kaiff , or the most populare musician is A.R.Rahman etc. There are scores of educated muslims holding good positions in the government , not to speak of businessmen of muslim community doing well here. Can you say the same for Pakistan or Bangladesh where nonmuslims are persecuted ,forcible converted to islam, their daughters raped ,their properties confiscated by the muslims - a raw daylight robbery. This is what islam teaches you. Islam is not a religion but a mafia cult promoting itself by dividing humanity with "us versus them" mentality ,spreading hatred against anything that is not 'islamic' or arabic. What about Bali bombing , the regular discriminationn and denigration of nonmuslim people in Indonesia,Malaysia,etc. If islam is so peaceful how do you justify the Somalian pirates, the underworld in India dominated by muslims , the poor human rights conditions in any islamic country like Nigeria, Somalia,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,Syria,Libya,Egypt,Sudan,etc.... You name it they are there these miserable hellholes of oppression,repression and tyranny ,wealth in the hands of few and poverty ,corruption rampant , lack of democacy, individual liberty and appaling conditions of women and children,lack of education,etc.
I know ,you have no answers . That is because islam cannot deliver anything but anarchy in the hands of mullahs and the fuedal lords and misery to the commion folks : this is the stark reality for everyone to see in all the countries I have named above.
I know ,you have no answers . That is because islam cannot deliver anything but anarchy in the hands of mullahs and the fuedal lords and misery to the commion folks : this is the stark reality for everyone to see in all the countries I have named above.
written by karan , November 07, 2009
We saw a glimpse of muslim patriotism in India recently when they issued a FATWA against banning muslims from singing "Vande Matram" - An indian patriotic song praising the country with no religious connotations.We saw Muslim patriotism during the London bombings and Madrid bombings.Now another shinning example of Muslim patriotism in the US.A man born in the US - making use of every opportunity of the land and yet all he gave back in the end was a "ALLAH O AKBAR" - murdering 13 fellow countrymen.Non-Muslims watch you back ...
written by Kafirlicious , November 07, 2009
What are the thoughts on how the military should respond to this event? Should Muslims be excused from fighting other Muslims? Should they be forced to do so? Should Muslims be relegated to noncombat status?
What precautions might the military take to prevent attacks from within?
Islam seems to have two sides... a cultural side... wherein Muslims might identify with Islam, but not really know much about it... then you have the religious Muslims. Reading this site, the founder was a cultural Muslim before renouncing Islam altogether.
Can cultural Muslims be trusted not to become Jihadis?
What precautions might the military take to prevent attacks from within?
Islam seems to have two sides... a cultural side... wherein Muslims might identify with Islam, but not really know much about it... then you have the religious Muslims. Reading this site, the founder was a cultural Muslim before renouncing Islam altogether.
Can cultural Muslims be trusted not to become Jihadis?
written by Hemant , November 07, 2009
We Indians have been Fighting with Muslim Exteremists for so long time.long before America started its War Against Islamic Terrorism..
Muslims Used Ourselves n India being a Soft Democratic and a Secular State...Hindus who are in Majority in Population (abt 80%) are being threatened by Muslims (abt 15%) why? because We let them...its our Fault ..
And Same Mistakes You Americans are doing...
Stop being Polite n Generous to these Islamic SATANS ...Kick them Out of Your Country..
And send them back to their Shit Islamic world
Or They will keep Stabbing in ur back....and they will try to Achieve their Dream to Spread Islam in America all over
I dont understand for what reasons U Americans Hated Mr Bush...but for Me He is a Hero and always Be...
He kicked in the Asses of Bastard Islamic Militants and their Organistions ...
Its Him the Reason Osama Bin Laden(Islamic SATAN whom muslims all over d world Praise) is forced to hide and run for his life like a Rat...
Hardcore Islamic Terrorist Organisations .Al-Queda and Taliban is almost broken down...
Million Thanks Mr. Bush ..may God Bless You Mr Bush!
And I Pray.. America is safe in Hands of Mr Barak HUSSAIN Obama...
And HUSSAIN Obama will Not stop what Mr Bush Started...'The War against Islamic Terrorism' and Keep Bush movements against Islamic Terrorism..
Amen.amen.amen...
Muslims Used Ourselves n India being a Soft Democratic and a Secular State...Hindus who are in Majority in Population (abt 80%) are being threatened by Muslims (abt 15%) why? because We let them...its our Fault ..
And Same Mistakes You Americans are doing...
Stop being Polite n Generous to these Islamic SATANS ...Kick them Out of Your Country..
And send them back to their Shit Islamic world
Or They will keep Stabbing in ur back....and they will try to Achieve their Dream to Spread Islam in America all over
I dont understand for what reasons U Americans Hated Mr Bush...but for Me He is a Hero and always Be...
He kicked in the Asses of Bastard Islamic Militants and their Organistions ...
Its Him the Reason Osama Bin Laden(Islamic SATAN whom muslims all over d world Praise) is forced to hide and run for his life like a Rat...
Hardcore Islamic Terrorist Organisations .Al-Queda and Taliban is almost broken down...
Million Thanks Mr. Bush ..may God Bless You Mr Bush!
And I Pray.. America is safe in Hands of Mr Barak HUSSAIN Obama...
And HUSSAIN Obama will Not stop what Mr Bush Started...'The War against Islamic Terrorism' and Keep Bush movements against Islamic Terrorism..
Amen.amen.amen...
written by Hemant , November 07, 2009
Lingya ..I just loved ur Story n Comment U made under 'Islamic Brainwashing' ...keep writing
God Bless!
God Bless!
written by For Muslims , November 07, 2009
Must Muslims are peaceful but we can control the Islamists.
Close down ALL the Islamic schools. Close down ALL the mosques.
Whichever Muslim Teacher, imam talks about jihad, killing of infidels, putting out a edict to kill some one, we should KILL him, BOMB his mosques.
Close down ALL the Islamic schools. Close down ALL the mosques.
Whichever Muslim Teacher, imam talks about jihad, killing of infidels, putting out a edict to kill some one, we should KILL him, BOMB his mosques.
written by RRWest , November 08, 2009
Islam is no more a religion than any other totalitarian ideology that curbs freedom of conscience forr the sake of its leaders' power.
It means "to submit" and free thinking, compassion for others, discussion and criticism of its tenets are forbidden under penalties as severe as death.
Leaving it means to incur the death fatwa, which tells me that there is something seriously wrong with it.
Normally, people may leave their faiths with little or no penalties attached, except when they meet "their makers". Not so in Islam, where any Muslim can kill apostates and be rewarded. Who in their right minds would believe such a thing?
Brainwashed people, thats who.
Islam's leaders have pulled the wool over more than a billion pairs of eyes and the rest of the oil-hungry world is still buying these same lies.
You just have to remember that for over 800 years, Europe fought against Islam in whatever form it came, whether it was the Moors, the Caliphate, Saracens or the Ottoman Turks. Whatever their names, they still had an agenda to conquer the world and enslave those who would not bend to their rule.
It means "to submit" and free thinking, compassion for others, discussion and criticism of its tenets are forbidden under penalties as severe as death.
Leaving it means to incur the death fatwa, which tells me that there is something seriously wrong with it.
Normally, people may leave their faiths with little or no penalties attached, except when they meet "their makers". Not so in Islam, where any Muslim can kill apostates and be rewarded. Who in their right minds would believe such a thing?
Brainwashed people, thats who.
Islam's leaders have pulled the wool over more than a billion pairs of eyes and the rest of the oil-hungry world is still buying these same lies.
You just have to remember that for over 800 years, Europe fought against Islam in whatever form it came, whether it was the Moors, the Caliphate, Saracens or the Ottoman Turks. Whatever their names, they still had an agenda to conquer the world and enslave those who would not bend to their rule.
written by slizzo , November 08, 2009
can the defenders of irrational beliefs AT LEAST admit that the koran is obviously open to lethal misinterpretation? play connect the word games all day long but the fact is, there are a ton of people in the world killing en masse because they are 100% positive that the koran commands them to do so. can you at least admit it would be a really good idea if as many islamic leaders as possible would get together and sign and agree and instruct their followers that X doesn't mean kill Y and A doesn't mean to rape B and so on. Clear up all the well-known lethal misinterpretations of the koran. What is the downside of something like this? Who loses? People who want to kill in the name of god. Is that who you want to make sure isn't offended or doesn't feel left out?
To Abdul Wahab and likes of him:
We know now why people like you jump on the stage like some jokwers only to confuse wesrtern idiots (who hardly can imagine what islam is) in order to save Islam by your cunning deceptions. people like Wahab are pathological liars and they lie by the advice of Allah and Prophet muhammad who taught them to lie and practice deceptions to get victory for Islam. Please stop your deceptions and tell the truth that Islam hates everybody and Allah asked muslims to wedge jihad to kill all who are not muslims. Would you?
SKM
We know now why people like you jump on the stage like some jokwers only to confuse wesrtern idiots (who hardly can imagine what islam is) in order to save Islam by your cunning deceptions. people like Wahab are pathological liars and they lie by the advice of Allah and Prophet muhammad who taught them to lie and practice deceptions to get victory for Islam. Please stop your deceptions and tell the truth that Islam hates everybody and Allah asked muslims to wedge jihad to kill all who are not muslims. Would you?
SKM
written by Louie , November 08, 2009
Abdul Wahab ,
Muslims keep bringing up how the Koran says nice things about how "killing one person is like killing all humanity", then they disappear and don't make more comments or take questions. Granted, this is a hostile audience, but this is the front line of the jihad, no?
If you want to make a better world for Islam, this is where you must start. If you have something to say, if you feel Islam is being misrepresented here, why not make a few responses? Take a question or two. Ignore the ignorance you might find here, and talk. Maybe you can teach something, maybe you can learn.
This audience is pretty savvy to the Koran. It's my understanding that 97% of the references to Jihad in Islamic scripture are about violence and killing, while the remaining 3% are about overcoming inner weaknesses.
And anyway, who cares what "real Islam" might be if the majority of the world's Muslims aren't "real Islam"? Most Muslims across the world have heinous practices that hurt them more than it hurts the unbelievers. Afghanistan is a stone age society full of suicidal maniacs claiming to be "students of Islam"... or "Taliban" as they call it. Aren't they practicing "real Islam"? Shouldn't they fight the infidel until every woman in Afganistan is not going to school, staying at home and every gay person is thrown off of a high building?
The suicidal maniacs in Pakistan are very close to destroying their own country. If Taliban get the nuclear weapons, we will surely strike them first.
The suicidal maniacs in Indonesia have destroyed their tourist trade. Bali has never recovered from the bombings there, and the world media is telling the story of how Islam is squeezing all other beliefs there with random killings, bombs and jihadis who disagree with you about the purpose of jihad.
The suicidal maniacs in India shock the world with their savagery. Hardly a day goes by that we don't hear about an attack there.They call themselves Muslims.
This latest suicidal maniac at Ft. Hood has single handedly ended the career of more than 3000 Muslims in the US military. Why should the soldiers at Ft. Hood have to pay because he joined them? Is it "real Islam" to sneak into the US military as a member, swearing oaths of allegience and then doing a massacre?
Maybe the question isn't whether or not Islam is good or evil, maybe the question is why so many suicidal maniacs in the world call themselves Muslims.
You know, Palestine is a big issue for the Muslim world. Their children grow up throwing rocks at tanks. Ghandi and Martin Luther King taught the world how to overthrow oppressors who have greater military power. The way to do it is with peaceful civil disobedience. It works. It always works.
The Palestinians won't do that. They'd rather be whipped to death. They want to follow the Koran and fight the Israelis with violence. Being Muslim, they don't want to take their cues from other religions, even when those religions aree successful.
Islam, or at least the suicidal maniacs who call themselves Muslims, is a self defeating movement. It leaves pain, death and sorrow wherever it goes. There is no place on earth where Muslims are happy living with non Muslims. If Islam keeps growing, it will eat the whole world and then there will be nothing but poverty, ignorance and cruelty everywhere.
If the suicidal maniacs aren't Muslims, why don't Muslims help fight them? Why don't Jihadis from Yemen show up to fight the Taliban?
Just asking.
Muslims keep bringing up how the Koran says nice things about how "killing one person is like killing all humanity", then they disappear and don't make more comments or take questions. Granted, this is a hostile audience, but this is the front line of the jihad, no?
If you want to make a better world for Islam, this is where you must start. If you have something to say, if you feel Islam is being misrepresented here, why not make a few responses? Take a question or two. Ignore the ignorance you might find here, and talk. Maybe you can teach something, maybe you can learn.
This audience is pretty savvy to the Koran. It's my understanding that 97% of the references to Jihad in Islamic scripture are about violence and killing, while the remaining 3% are about overcoming inner weaknesses.
And anyway, who cares what "real Islam" might be if the majority of the world's Muslims aren't "real Islam"? Most Muslims across the world have heinous practices that hurt them more than it hurts the unbelievers. Afghanistan is a stone age society full of suicidal maniacs claiming to be "students of Islam"... or "Taliban" as they call it. Aren't they practicing "real Islam"? Shouldn't they fight the infidel until every woman in Afganistan is not going to school, staying at home and every gay person is thrown off of a high building?
The suicidal maniacs in Pakistan are very close to destroying their own country. If Taliban get the nuclear weapons, we will surely strike them first.
The suicidal maniacs in Indonesia have destroyed their tourist trade. Bali has never recovered from the bombings there, and the world media is telling the story of how Islam is squeezing all other beliefs there with random killings, bombs and jihadis who disagree with you about the purpose of jihad.
The suicidal maniacs in India shock the world with their savagery. Hardly a day goes by that we don't hear about an attack there.They call themselves Muslims.
This latest suicidal maniac at Ft. Hood has single handedly ended the career of more than 3000 Muslims in the US military. Why should the soldiers at Ft. Hood have to pay because he joined them? Is it "real Islam" to sneak into the US military as a member, swearing oaths of allegience and then doing a massacre?
Maybe the question isn't whether or not Islam is good or evil, maybe the question is why so many suicidal maniacs in the world call themselves Muslims.
You know, Palestine is a big issue for the Muslim world. Their children grow up throwing rocks at tanks. Ghandi and Martin Luther King taught the world how to overthrow oppressors who have greater military power. The way to do it is with peaceful civil disobedience. It works. It always works.
The Palestinians won't do that. They'd rather be whipped to death. They want to follow the Koran and fight the Israelis with violence. Being Muslim, they don't want to take their cues from other religions, even when those religions aree successful.
Islam, or at least the suicidal maniacs who call themselves Muslims, is a self defeating movement. It leaves pain, death and sorrow wherever it goes. There is no place on earth where Muslims are happy living with non Muslims. If Islam keeps growing, it will eat the whole world and then there will be nothing but poverty, ignorance and cruelty everywhere.
If the suicidal maniacs aren't Muslims, why don't Muslims help fight them? Why don't Jihadis from Yemen show up to fight the Taliban?
Just asking.
written by Louie , November 08, 2009
One Ghandi in Palestine ten years ago, and today, there would be a free and prosperous Palestine.
The path of peaceful disobedience is difficult and dangerous... but it always works.
The path of peaceful disobedience is difficult and dangerous... but it always works.
To all Islamic apologists:
Texas shooter Nidan Hasan was not any mad guy; rather he was a cool-headed stealth jihadi in disguise of American soldier. Religion of islam has lot to do what he did. Islam of course was the real reason why he did this horrific killing. In fact, all Islamic terrorists (Al-Qaeda and all other jihadis) are fighting America only for establishing Islam in the west. All Islamic terrorists take their holy teachings from the Holy Koran and Sunnah.
Please try to understand this ancient saying:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." (Blaise Pascal, mathematician, 1670)
Now please read something from holy Koran which was the prime motivational factor for Nidan Hasan. Don’t say I did not read Koran or I don’t know what is Islam! I am a Muslim and I read Koran and Sunnah from A-Z, and I can tell you Koran is the clear manual of Islamic terrorism.
Islamic terrorists do kill people by their Islamic fanatical zeal which is the prime source of motivation in their killing spree. And these inspirations always come from Holy Quran. Now, question is: dose the Quran contain such verses which can easily inspire/incite devout Muslims to kill people with impunity? Answer is there are plenty of such inciting or inspiring Quranic verses which can turn any simple/innocent minded devout Muslims into a killing monster. In fact, Quran is replete with such horrifically inciting dictums throughout the pages of Quran. Holy Quran repeatedly promised terrestrial handsome rewards for those who can kill kaffirs (enemy of Allah and His messenger) and dreadful punishing hellfire for those who refuse to kill kaffirs. Quran also incite followers to sacrifice their lives in order to kill kaffirs in exchange of much better and lucrative after life. In this line just one Quranic verse (9:111) is most attractive to those jihadis who desperately egger to achieve heavenly rearward of 72 virgins. Here is the master piece from Holy Quran:
Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran.
In addition, a strong support and explanation to the verse: 9:111 was given by Merciful Allah by the following:
Quran-4:74- Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory (i.e. killed or be killed) - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
Quran-4:95- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons (sacrifice both life and wealth) than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.
Quran-3:169-: Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; (Here Allah is saying that those jihadi who dies [commit suicide] is not dead but he will be living with Allah).
Now, I do not believe that anybody can have slightest doubt that the above clear invitations (from Allah) for the ardent fanatical believers can very easily convince the blind pukka (pure) Muslims to become a time-bomb (suicidal) in order to kill infidels/kaffirs-for the cause of Allah! The above verses (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95) are clearly ordering devout Muslims "to kill and be killed"; that is, Allah is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives (to commit suicide) in His cause (Allah's cause) in order to kill infidels (enemy of Allah). This single verse (9:111) very precisely justifies suicide bombing-the most lethal, most terrifying, most inhuman and most successful weapon majority Islamic terrorists are using today to kill Allah's enemies. It is the perfect example (without any ambiguity) of suicidal method Allah has prescribed for devout Muslims. In the verse above (9:111) Islamic Allah clearly saying that: He (Allah) purchased life and property of believers in exchange of lustful and unimaginable lucrative heavenly pleasures for those who will die (commit suicide) for the cause (killing kaffirs) of Allah. After this, Muslims (ardent followers of the Quran) do not need any more killing instructions for their motivation to kill kaffirs/infidels. For good reason we can sum up that the Islamic God (Allah) is the most dangerous deity having unlimited vengeful, cruel, intolerant, intimidating and war-loving blood thirsty divine entity.
Syed K. Mirza
Texas shooter Nidan Hasan was not any mad guy; rather he was a cool-headed stealth jihadi in disguise of American soldier. Religion of islam has lot to do what he did. Islam of course was the real reason why he did this horrific killing. In fact, all Islamic terrorists (Al-Qaeda and all other jihadis) are fighting America only for establishing Islam in the west. All Islamic terrorists take their holy teachings from the Holy Koran and Sunnah.
Please try to understand this ancient saying:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." (Blaise Pascal, mathematician, 1670)
Now please read something from holy Koran which was the prime motivational factor for Nidan Hasan. Don’t say I did not read Koran or I don’t know what is Islam! I am a Muslim and I read Koran and Sunnah from A-Z, and I can tell you Koran is the clear manual of Islamic terrorism.
Islamic terrorists do kill people by their Islamic fanatical zeal which is the prime source of motivation in their killing spree. And these inspirations always come from Holy Quran. Now, question is: dose the Quran contain such verses which can easily inspire/incite devout Muslims to kill people with impunity? Answer is there are plenty of such inciting or inspiring Quranic verses which can turn any simple/innocent minded devout Muslims into a killing monster. In fact, Quran is replete with such horrifically inciting dictums throughout the pages of Quran. Holy Quran repeatedly promised terrestrial handsome rewards for those who can kill kaffirs (enemy of Allah and His messenger) and dreadful punishing hellfire for those who refuse to kill kaffirs. Quran also incite followers to sacrifice their lives in order to kill kaffirs in exchange of much better and lucrative after life. In this line just one Quranic verse (9:111) is most attractive to those jihadis who desperately egger to achieve heavenly rearward of 72 virgins. Here is the master piece from Holy Quran:
Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran.
In addition, a strong support and explanation to the verse: 9:111 was given by Merciful Allah by the following:
Quran-4:74- Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory (i.e. killed or be killed) - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
Quran-4:95- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons (sacrifice both life and wealth) than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.
Quran-3:169-: Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; (Here Allah is saying that those jihadi who dies [commit suicide] is not dead but he will be living with Allah).
Now, I do not believe that anybody can have slightest doubt that the above clear invitations (from Allah) for the ardent fanatical believers can very easily convince the blind pukka (pure) Muslims to become a time-bomb (suicidal) in order to kill infidels/kaffirs-for the cause of Allah! The above verses (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95) are clearly ordering devout Muslims "to kill and be killed"; that is, Allah is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives (to commit suicide) in His cause (Allah's cause) in order to kill infidels (enemy of Allah). This single verse (9:111) very precisely justifies suicide bombing-the most lethal, most terrifying, most inhuman and most successful weapon majority Islamic terrorists are using today to kill Allah's enemies. It is the perfect example (without any ambiguity) of suicidal method Allah has prescribed for devout Muslims. In the verse above (9:111) Islamic Allah clearly saying that: He (Allah) purchased life and property of believers in exchange of lustful and unimaginable lucrative heavenly pleasures for those who will die (commit suicide) for the cause (killing kaffirs) of Allah. After this, Muslims (ardent followers of the Quran) do not need any more killing instructions for their motivation to kill kaffirs/infidels. For good reason we can sum up that the Islamic God (Allah) is the most dangerous deity having unlimited vengeful, cruel, intolerant, intimidating and war-loving blood thirsty divine entity.
Syed K. Mirza
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The word jihad means to strive, struggle (in the way of Allah).
Jusitce is the way of Allah.
Helping the weak is the way of Allah
Spending your wealth to help others is the way of Allah
Saving Lives is the way of Allah
In Islam saving one life is like saving all of humanity. If you want to study islam do not look at the MUSLIMS. just because someone has a muslim name or is born in a muslim family does not mean that they are MUSLIMS. A muslim is someone who sumbits to the will of God and a doer of peace.
Inaccurate knowledge on the part of the muslims about Islam (which is very sad) has led to them thinking killing non-muslims will guarantee a one way ticket to heaven. That is not true as far as what i know.
Let me give u an example. Suppose i buy the best car in the world but the one driving that car has no clue about how to drive it and he smashes the car into bits and pieces. will u say that the car is messed up. NO
Similarly if the one who practices islam is making mistakes you cannot blame ISLAM for it.