Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

The Early Face of  Islam in Punjab and India

After leaving  Islam, the very first thing that I thought over was:

Why did my ancestor accept the cruel narcissist cult of pedophilic prophet?

Were they so gullible?

Were they so cruel?

I read many articles written by Hindus on  Islamic jaziya and forced conversions in India. But I was not satisfied. There seemed something missing in these articles. Muslims of the sub-continent, especially of Punjab, accepted  Islam not only due to jaziya, but also due to preachings by the early Sufi saints of Islam. They have a lot of contribution in these conversions. In every city of Punjab and India there you will find tombs on the graves of saints.

These saints mislead the people to some extent. They didn’t have the real knowledge about  Islam. They accepted  Islam due to a monotheistic attraction. They did not have read any single hadith. They had not any knowledge about the filthy Quran. They knew about the Quran from the hearsay of contemporary mullahs.

These saints were some kind of "monotheistic Hindus". They accepted "Allah" just as the God of the universe. They never practice  Islam, never said prayers, never  fast. This is the reason that common villagers in Pakistan hate mosques; they don’t bother to fast in Ramadan. They like to distribute some food among poor every Thursday and give some money as zakat. They actually believe in the philosophy of those saints, the early monotheists of India.

My ancestors were neither cruel, nor fool, to accept a pedophilic prophet; they simply accepted monotheism from these monotheistic saints, who preached love and harmony among fellow Indians.

As the time passed, the translations of the Quran started reaching the India. The movement of "Wahabism" arose; there arrived the real face of  Islam in India. Because of this, the contemporary intellectuals, who loved to live in peace with Indian Hindus, started a strong campaign against Wahabismthe real face of Islam. This is the reason that people of hate the Wahabis more than dogs and infidels. Many reformist like Sir Syed Ahmad Khan arose to stop the hate-mongering Islamic values. But the reformists of Islam always failed; they were not able to mold  Islam and left their mission after receiving fatwas from the Mullahs. Later on, that  Islamic hate-virus caused the formation of Pakistan and massacre of millions of Indians.

In sum, the early face of Islam in India, and especially in Punjab, was not as it is seen now in Pakistan. Punjabi people used to believe more in saints than prophets. And there were a lot of saints, e.g. Baba Farid, Waris Shah, Sachal Sarmst, Bullah Shah, Al-Hijwairi etc. They preached monotheism and love, although real Islam slowly took over in India. Among these Sufi saints, Bulleh Shah was marked as bridge of peace between Muslims and Sikhs. But in him time, Baba Bulleh Shah was a beacon of hope and peace for the citizens of Punjab. While Bulleh Shah was in Pandoke, Muslims killed a young Sikh man, who was riding through their village, in retaliation for the murder of some Muslims by Sikhs. Baba Bulleh Shah denounced the murder of an innocent Sikh, for which he was censured by the Mullahs and muftis of Pandoke. Bulleh Shah maintained that violence was not the answer to violence. Bulleh Shah also hailed Guru Tegh Bahadur, murdered by Aurangzeb, as a Ghazi ( Islamic term for a religious warrior).

Bulleh Shah was simply a monotheist: he doubt almost everything, particularly of Islam, as reflected in his poetry, which I have translated (see below). He was a doubter, skeptica Richard Dawkins of his age.

There is some stanzas from his poetry. Just compare it with hateful verses of the Quran.

Punjabi transliteration
Na maen momin vich maseet aan  
Na maen vich kufar diyan reet aan  
Na maen paakaan vich paleet aan  
Na maen moosa na pharaun.  
Bulleh! ki jaana maen kaun  
Na maen andar ved kitaab aan,  
Na vich bhangaan na sharaab aan  
Na vich rindaan masat kharaab aan  
Na vich jaagan na vich saun.  
Bulleh , ki jaana maen kaun
Na maen bheth mazhab da paaya  
Ne maen aadam havva jaaya  
Na maen apna naam dharaaya  
Na vich baitthan na vich bhaun  
Bulleh , ki jaana maen kaun  
Avval aakhir aap nu jaana  
Na koi dooja hor pehchaana  
Maethon hor na koi siyaana  
Bulla! ooh khadda hai kaun  
Bulla, ki jaana maen kaun

Not a believer inside the mosque, am I  
Nor a pagan disciple of false rites  
Not the pure amongst the impure  
Neither Moses, nor the Pharaoh  
Bulleh! to me, I am not known  
Not in the holy Vedas, am I  
Nor in opium, neither in wine  
Not in the drunkard's intoxicated craze  
Neither awake, nor in a sleeping daze  

Bulleh! To me, I am not known 

I cant understand the secrets of religions 
From Adam and Eve, I am not born  
I am not the name I assume  
Not in stillness, nor on the move  
Bulleh! to me, I am not known  
I am the first, I am the last  
None other, have I ever known  
I am the wisest of them all  
Bulleh! do I stand alone?
Bulleh! to me, I am not known

vaid Qurana perh perh thaky
Sajdy kerdian gissay mathhy

Na rub tairath na rub makkay

Jis nay paya noor anwar

Ishk di nawo nawi bahar 

Phook masala bhun sat lota

Na pher tasbeh asa sota

Ashik kehnday dy dy hoka

Tark halalon kha murder

Ishk di nawi nawi bahar 
Mulla tay mashaalchi dohaan ikko chit  
Loukan karday chananan, aap anhairae vich

Masjid dha de, mandir dha de, dha de jo kucch dainda  
Par kisi da dil na dhain, Rab dilan vich rehnda..

(people) are tired reading Ved and Quran
Their faces are rubbed due to prostration

Neither God is in Tirath nor in Mecca

He who get the light

Newly spring to love. 

Burn the prayer mat, burnt out the lota (a pot used for  Islamic ablution).

Don’t use tasbeeh (prayer-beads).

Lovers are calling loudly. prevent halal and eat haram meat.

Newly spring to love. 

Mullah and the torch-bearer, both from the same flock  
Guiding others; themselves in the dark

Tear down the mosque and the temple; break everything in sight  
But do not break a person's heart, it is there that God resides


Similarly Sultan Bahoo, was of that category. Here is his stanzas.

Punjabi transliteration 

Akal fikr na jana kai, jithhay wahdat ser w subhani hoo

Nal authy mullah pundit jushi na outhay ilm Qurani hoo

Jud e amjad ahad wakha ditta, taan kal hoay fani hoo

Ilm tmam kitto nay hasal bahoo, kitaba thhap asmani hoo 

Mazhaban dy derwazay uchay, rah rabanaa mori hoo

Punditaan tay malvania  kolon chhup chhup langiay choree hoo

Murshid da didar ay bahoo

Menoo lakh keroran hajaan hoo


The science cannot reach the place where God is. Neither pundit is there nor the mullah. And even knowledge of Quran cannot reach that place. 

Great grand father told  me the "one God"

Every knowledge I have gained. Now I closed all divinely books.

The doors of religions are very high. Path of the saints is the hole inside them.

We are passing secretly from the pundits and mullahs. 

A scene of my saint is better then millions of hajjs and omras.


Those monotheist Sufi saints, as these poetry suggest, were not aware of the real face of Islam; they simply accepted Islam as a philosophy of monotheism. They criticized the mullahs and the spread of hatred due to  Islam. They spread the message of love, which my Hindu ancestors accepted and became a part of Islam. Later on, when the Quran reached India with translations in native language, then the Islamic hate-virus evolved into its real face: the Talibans being an example.

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Name: jenn
Date: Thursday January 22, 2009
Time: 23:43:22 -0500


koran is only good for one purpose. For wiping your rectum after a mighty bog

Name: MA Khan
Date: Thursday January 22, 2009
Time: 23:48:26 -0500


A good attempt at rationalizing a few riddles. But a couple of points. Bulleh Shah's time was not early Islam, rather a late one, and at a time, Mughal rule was faltering, Sikh's were showing increasing defiance. Secondly, you've been too speculative about history, which need to be based on what is documented. A Hindu may become humanist like Bulleh Shah, may write more elegant, humanistic and spiritually enlightening poetry: Nobel Tagore being one such giant. That did not mean that Tagore, a member of monotheistic Brahma Samaj, got converts from other polytheistic creeds like Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism or whatsoever. Writing poetry does not get convert. There in no evidence that Bulleh Shah made converts in large numbers although myths, folk-stories fly around aloft. A documented history-based account of Sufis in India has been given by Ibrahim Lone; those were the towering Sufi figures in India. To conclude, if you want to have a grasp of true real face of Islam, you should read the memoir of Sultan Firoz Tughlaq (d. 1388): i think Fatuhat-I-Firoz Shahi. He was kind-hearted Sultan, who reduced taxes on Hindus from 50-75% to Islamically halal 20%; he allowed drafting of Hindu soldiers in the army defying opposition from Muslims. His time saw the Hindus prosper. Now a little bit of advertising myself: in my upcoming book, I have dealt with conversion, particularly the much hyped-up conversion by Sufis (which got currencies during British time). The history is most sketchy about conversion by Sufis: whatever documented gives a very contrary picture from what being touted today---based on no documentation at all but on outrageous speculations.

Name: To: MA Khan
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 00:10:48 -0500


If you had to recommend only one book documenting the spead of Islam in the Indian subcontinent, what book would that be? Thanks.....waiting for your response.....

Name: Ibrahim
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 00:42:56 -0500


Well, MA that is not entirely true. There were a few Sufis in Punjab who were really good people. But the point is that these Sufis did not practice Islam. There is the case of Firdousi, who said Annal Haq, which means I am the truth. This was a direct rip off from Vedic philosophy which says, Aham Brahma Assmi and means almost the same. For all practical purposes these few Sufis who were good people were more inspired by the preachings of Hindu texts rather than by the Quran. Most of their followers were not the simple minded village folk who due to the ignorance of their own texts converted to Islam thinking that what thes people were preaching was true Islam. These guys were not exactly Villians. However for the most part the Sufis were wiked people. The Sufis who came to Kashmir, began the practice of the Durood which was like a Nasheed to the Prophet of Isla. They created an image of Muhammad in the minds of the simple Kashmiris which was vastly different from the reality. Infact when a traveller from Hejaz now Saudi Arabia came to Kashmir and reprimanded the locals for this unislamic practice, the same Pir scolded him as he had been able to convert quite a number of simple minded village peasants to Islam using these techniques. Simply speaking most Indian people have always been drawn towards spiritualism and they Sufis gave them a form of Islam which would strike a cord with their way of thought. This was done inorder to pave the way for true Islam to come later on. Today Durood has been totally banned in the valley. Anyone found singing it is a legitimate target for the Jamatis and the Ahle Hadees people who yield some kind of influence over the terrorists. The Muslims used every tact in the book to convert people, where force did not work, they used taqqiyya. Bulle Shah's poetry is something that continues to inspire awe, however we are living a different world where poetry does not influence people's thoughts anymore. Hence Amar's assertion is not totally incorrect.

Name: Spread of Islam
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 01:53:06 -0500


Unfortunately, the current music sensation A.R.Rahman is converted, in the same way as explained above.He is talking about spirituality and does not know that Islam does not have spirituality and only murderous violence.

Name: To above
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 02:05:11 -0500


And the funny part is that AR REHMAN, is involved in a profession which is haram according to Islam. He converted to Islam after some Pir cured his sister from a disease. I find such people extremely pathetic.

Name: MA Khan ------>> Ibrahim
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 02:58:47 -0500


I did not say all Sufis were bad people. However, the mega ones is India---Moinuddin Chisti, Nizamuddin Auliya, Nasiruddin Chirag, Shah Walliullah et el.---fall on the wrong side of humanity. Again, there is no evidence that the Sufis converted, or their poetry converted people in large numbers---not now, not in the past. This all wild speculations. If you disagree, give me some documented evidence. As concerning Kashmir, Sufis played a vital role in converting the kafir, but the poetry they used was "barbarity of the worst kind." Take a look at Muhammad Farishtah's "History of the Rise of Mohamedan Power in India."

Name: Ibrahim--------------To MA
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 03:13:19 -0500


Actually MA there are accounts of Sufis converting people to Islam. There is a book called legacy of Islam in India. It has been written by multiple authors. My memory fails me, but for all possible accounts this is book is a penguin publication. There also several Kashmiri texts written and preseved which show that Sufis were involved in conversions. One of these books written by Abdul Rashid Hamadani, is still available in Persian, in which several accounts of the Sufi have been written down. These accounts are cronologically arranged. However as the history of Kashmir and the most of the plains in India donot coincide for the most part, I feel these conversions by Sufis in Kashmir are an exception looking at the bigger picture of the subcontinent. If you actually travel to the Deccan region in India, you will find a lot of false accounts of warrior Sufis who killed the local monarchs and established Islam in those regions. However they are creations of demented minds and donot hold any beef when looked at in the historical reference.

Name: RE:jenn
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 03:15:06 -0500


Jenn, why are you so badly obsessed with ass holes and inserting penises inside rectums smeared with lard. You sound like a sexually deviated freak who needs to see a shrink.

Name: to MA khan from amar khan
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 03:26:37 -0500


dear MA khan. i donot think that my ancesters were hindus they actually came from kabul during the rule of baber. but i wrote that article because there are few families and tribe(e.g araeen family) of punjab who were converted to islam only due to bulleh shah and sultan bahoo etc.jaziya was also a main factor.ibrahim is right we should divide sufis into two catagories 1) good ones 2) and bad ones....bulleeh shah was some kind of doubter or skeptic of his time.

Name: jenn
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 05:38:23 -0500


islam must be banned in western countries because it condones, encourages muslim men to marry little girls and rape them. The filthy bastard Mohammad (poo be upon him) raped a little girl. so dirty muslim men do the same

Name: MA Khan
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 05:43:28 -0500


There are too many folk-stories of legedary nature of Sufis' conveting the Hindus, which the British compiled in the 1870s onwards. Some European authors, Thomas Arnold being the leader, in the 1890s onwards tried to sell these stories as the "major form of conversion" and as "peaceful" in nature. These authors blatantly ingored tonnes of documented evidence of conversion in Jihadi wars by contemporary Muslim historian, prominently through enslvement. When scholars later tried to dig into the life of those Sufis---renowed Pir Mabari in Bijapur, Moinduddin Chisti in Azmer, Syed Hamdani et al. in Kashmir---they most invariably turned out to be of violent, barbaric nature. The biographical treatise of India's greatest Sufi saint Nizamuddin Auliya did not fail to mention his "stunning success" in peaceful convertion of "two card-sellers". When Sultan Muhammad Shah Tughlaq, a zealous barbaric proselytizer, asked the Sufis to get into the business of converting the Hindus, the Sufis, according to Prof. Aziz, revolted against him. All these evidence suggest that "peaceful" conversion by Sufis played a very small, peripheral role in the overall conversion. When they played a prominent role such as in Kashmir, Bijapur, Azmer etc.---they used brutal, barbaric tools. The rest of the stories are legendary, which need to be researched. Legends do not mean truth; and if thoroughly researched, pandora's box may open. I again emphasize that "peaeful" conversion by Sufis were few and far between. Also one must not forget that many of the songs and poetry of Amir Khasrua, the greatest Sufi intellectual of India, seem very humanistic. He had nothing but hatred of Hindus as becomes conspicuously evident from his historical writings. He surpass almost all writers in the artistry of glorification of the brutality of Hindus in Jihadi wars of Muslim rulers of India. Some Sufis like Bulleh Shah, Buddhu Shah (not sure the same person) were peaceful but how many people, they truly converted and what were the circumstances need to be researched before jumping into conclusion on folk-stories, legends. To my research, the popular notions that the Sufis played the prominent role in converting the Kafirs to Islam "peacefully", is the most fantastical myth, always based on scant and legedary stories.

Name: Ilham
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 05:53:38 -0500


A very good article. I found much of it very interesting. It offers much insight into the realities of how Islam spread and evolved over time in India. I am looking forward to learning more about these issues in the months to come. Islam is a horrible and fraudulent religion and more and more people are now understanding this.

Name: Sufi's revival is leaving Islam altogether
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 06:05:39 -0500


Good article. The only way to get rid of Wahabi Islam is to kill the mullahs, imams, burn their mosques. However, need to build schools and educate the young about modern science and to leave Islam completely.

Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 06:19:14 -0500


i read koran and kamasutra both man created and kamasutra and kaamratnatantra beats koran hands false god/allah created man frm mud/dirt. nor brahmin created from any god mouth nor kshatriya from any god shoulders nor vaishya from any god legs nor shudra from any god foot.MAN IS EVOLED BY NATURE AND PROOF IS IN HUMAN GENES.

Name: RE: Amaar Khan from Ibrahim
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 06:39:06 -0500


Dear Amar, you should know that Hinduism extended from Malaysia and Indonesia in the East till Khorasan in Iran. So in all probabilities your ancestors were Hindus are pagan Afghans. Islam is merely 1400 years old. Most of these stories about Afghan ancestory are very popular in Pakistan, especially amongst those who use the surname Khan. However its nothing more than a concoction of demented minds who wish to identify with the oppressor after accepting the religion of the oppressor.

Name: intelligent lad
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 10:21:40 -0500


Amar even if you are Afghan chances are that your forefathers were Hindu.

Name: Book on conversion
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 10:50:21 -0500


Regarding query of a book on conversion, there isn't any well-written book. One prominent title is "Conversion to Islam" by Nehemia Levtzion. It is outrageous. On India, it mentions nothing about the tonnes of Muslim historians records on conversion. Nothing about Muhammad's brandishing the sword in Arabia about conversion there. Arnold's "Preaching of Islam" goes along similar line: documented history thoroughly discounted; Sufi folk-stories highlighted. The best way to understand it is to pick up history books written by Muslim historians of the time.

Name: to intelligent from amar
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 12:40:27 -0500


actually my grandfather wrote in his diary that our ancester came from kabul with baber.he mentioned some date also. but i have researched a lot those dates are fake and other references are also wrong i read whole book "tuzke jahangiri" to confirm that. at partition time my grand father migrated from gurdaspur.there was our village.well, not only mine but all the indian have had hindu ancesters because islam is not more older then 1400 hundred years. god bless hindus.

Name: to all from amar
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 12:46:12 -0500


i am proud of having hindu ancestry. now i am reading history of india from wiki. alas, i havent yet get any book from net. i am free now a days. if any one is having any ebook regarding history of india and muslims atrocities, please send it to me. waiting..........................

Name: to jenn
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 13:08:54 -0500


i think you are really angry about someone or something. (chances = 10%) or you're badly in need of a psychiatrist, which of course is not going to do any good to you. (chances = 90%) i suppose you are on your way to hell very fast, as of now.

Name: To Amar ........from Scrutator
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 15:14:27 -0500


Amar, as you have time on your hands no, please go through the website , specially its section on India. It throws some light on the history of hindu rulers of areas now covered by Afghanistan, Pakistan and Baluchistan. It describes, how after Islam entered Sind in the 8th/9th century, Hindu rulers of Afghanistan etc. valiantly resisted the muslim marauders for a period of four hundred years or so, before retreating into the hinterland of present day India. ....... Happy reading !

Name: Online History Books...
Date: Friday January 23, 2009
Time: 19:41:19 -0500


Amar, our library at Islam-watch lists a number of online books. Best of them is Elliot & Dawson's History of India as Told by Its Historians. This a series of 8 volumes, containing relevant extract from the works of medieval Muslim historians. Muhammad Farishtah's title is also there, although it is insufficient in detail about some areas, such as Bengal. KS Lal has three titles listed; they are worth reading. Upon corss-checking, his references stand.

Name: To Amar Khan: Good book on Hinduism.
Date: Saturday January 24, 2009
Time: 00:53:52 -0500


Check out "The Law of Karma" by Robert E. Svoboda ( Gets right to the point by avoiding all confusion like Ramayana, Mahabharata, Geeta...etc. as to what Hinduism is really all about.

Name: To Amar - Good Book
Date: Saturday January 24, 2009
Time: 11:50:01 -0500


Amar, I would suggest "Foundations of Indian Culture" by Sri Aurobindo. It is not about any "ism" but about the genius of the ancient and ever-renewing Indian Culture and its role in the worldwide scheme of things. Please contact Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Pondicherry website to order it.

Name: Why sufis had a field day converting
Date: Saturday January 24, 2009
Time: 14:31:55 -0500


Since the Brahmins kept the other Hindus willfully ignorant of Hindu scriptures and philosophy; these sufis had a field day converting Hindus by the dozens. The Brahmins are partly to blame for the demise of Hinduism.

Name: For all sub-continatals
Date: Sunday January 25, 2009
Time: 06:14:22 -0500


Name: Shoeb
Date: Monday January 26, 2009
Time: 07:01:29 -0500


Great insight in to early converions only you frgot the role of sword, repression &money in converion of early hindus to islam.bariing handful most of the sufis were cruel sword & power weilders with usp of a saint. As per al-hadees prophet mohd said that islam has spread threw sword of ALI & fortune of Khadeeza(PROPHETS FIRST WIFE). Even today most of muslims have a very little & mostly inaccurate knowlege of Quran & Al-Hadees. If you understand these two books then you wil be either of the two 1)jihadi(more likely), 2) Ex-muslim exen I feel like being on

Name: odiwala
Date: Monday January 26, 2009
Time: 10:16:41 -0500


what is solution?where is the world leading to?what lies in future?.can u people answer it?taliban,let,jem are real to stop this islamic terrorist?

Name: Truth is the Most Effective Weapon Against Islam
Date: Monday January 26, 2009
Time: 12:11:41 -0500


Truth is the deadliest enemy of Islam. Truth liberates an enslaved mind.

Name: History of gandhar
Date: Tuesday January 27, 2009
Time: 00:53:25 -0500


Dear Friends just i read the history of kandhar at In mahabharat Gandhari was married to king dhritrashtra, she was from Gn\andhar, thats why she was called Gandhari.Present day afganistan is ancient gandhar. An integral part of ancient bharat. I hope many such truths we will come to know when we search for truth. Salute to truth, which never dies.

Name: SJP
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 06:39:37 -0500


"The Franks were the only ones to learn that the terror of the Arab Muslims can be neutralized only by a greater counter-terror. This counter terror has to be a mega-terror or a super-terror to strike fear in the hearts of Muslims that they give up their aggressive mentality on the pain of death"

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