Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

The Treasure of Scientific Knowledge in the Koran


 

After my article A Few Questions to Dr Zakir Naik appeared on various Websites, it has generated a heated response from readers. A devout disciple of Dr Naik commented that he (Dr Naik) is capable of tackling one billion infidels like me. But till date, it is uncertain whether Dr Naik would come forward with his replies. Perhaps, it is below the dignity for a great scholar like Dr Naik to respond to the queries of a humble author like me.

My first question to Dr Naik was regarding the age of the earth. Scientific studies assert that this earth is more than 3 billion years old, but the investigation of the Islamic scriptures leads one to conclude that almighty Allah created this earth only 4,137 years ago. The above mentioned learned believer commented that the Holy Koran does not say that Prophet Muhammad was 90th descendant of Adam and hence my calculations are baseless and contrary to Islamic scriptures. However, the Holy Bible, which the Quran claims to affirm, clearly says that from the first man Adam to Abraham, there were 19 generation [Exo 5:1–32,11:10–32] and from  Abraham to Jesus 42 generations [Mat 1:117]. Given the time passed since Jesus to Muhammad, about 700 years, the estimate of 90 generations from Adam to Muhammad, as estimated by some Muslim scholars,[1] appears very correct. It can be added here that in the 1650s, well-known bishop James Ussher studied the genealogies in the Old Testament and calculated that the earth was created in 4004 B.C. In other words, the age of earth is 6013 years today.

My second question was: What was Allah doing before creating this heaven and earth 4,137 or 6,013  years ago? And did Allah exist before his creation? According to the said believer, it was a foolish question, because Allah is eternal, and hence, he has no past, present and future. According to Dr Naik, Allah is best defined by 4 verses of the 112th Sura (Sura Ekhlas) of the Holy Koran that says: “Say; Allah is one, the eternal Allah. He begot none, nor was He begotten. None is equal to Him” [tr: N J Dawood (word God replaced by Allah as, according to Dr Zakir Naik, the word God cannot be the true translation of Allah]. So, it is better to investigate the real nature of Allah, as narrated in the Koran and reliable Hadith. A hadith, indeed, throws some light on the whereabouts of Allah before he created the heaven and earth. It says, “I asked the Prophet, ‘Where was Allah before His creation?’ Muhammad replied: ‘He was in a cloud with no air underneath or above it” (Tabari I:204). But the question remains: Who created those clouds in which Allah took shelter, before Allah had begun his creation?

As Muslims do not worship the idol of Allah, many believe that Islamic Allah is formless. But the notion is entirely wrong. Islamic Allah has a physical body, which is 60 cubit tall (Shahih Muslim 6809). Furthermore, Allah’s appearance is like a human being, as Allah created Adam in his own image (SM 2872). Another Hadith (SM 6325) says that a Muslim, during a conflict, should not deface another Muslim, as Allah has created every human face like that of his own. This Hadith confirms the notion that the physical appearance of Allah is more or less like human beings, but he is 60 cubits tall and, perhaps, he remain invisible to man.  Koran 6:101 says that Allah does not have a wife. This confirms that Allah is certainly like a human male, sexually capable like a man, but, for some unknown reason, does not take a wife. He also has extraordinary miraculous power or qudrah.

During the life-time of Prophet Muhammad, a debate arose between the Jews and the Christians of Medina, where the Prophet himself was present. In that debate, the Jews were refuting the claim of Christians that Jesus was the son of Allah. The Jews ridiculed the Christians and said: “Did Allah sleep with Maryam?” This could have been a basis for the Christians to establish their claim. But the Prophet was not ready to admit the same as in that case Allah could have been convicted of committing adultery. At last, the Prophet could settle the dispute by saying that, as Allah had created Adam from clay by his extraordinary miraculous power (qudrah), in a similar manner, Allah created Jesus, in Maryam’s womb, with his qudrah. The incident confirms beyond all doubt that Islamic Allah is almost a male human being capable of procreating a baby in the womb of a human lady by sexual intercourse [Abdul Aziz al Aman, KABAR PATHEY (On the Road to Kabaa), Vol. 2, p. 190]. One may note here that, though Allah is a male human being, his masculinity has ever remained unused, as he has no spouse and he does not commit adultery with any other woman. So, it becomes evident that, though Allah is a sexually capable masculine, his masculinity has never been put to use.

In this context, it is important to note that, in one of his lectures on Similarities Between Hinduism and Islam, Dr Zakir tells a naked lie in saying that Allah is genderless. This claim obviously contradicts what Allah has revealed in the Quran.

In addition to a 60-cubit tall physical body, Allah has human attributes like vengeance, envy, cruelty and so on. Due to his envious nature, Allah becomes violently angry when a man worships any other God besides Allah. He punishes such sinners with grievous punishment (azab), in this world and/or in the next by roasting in hell-fire. Moreover, Allah is highly biased or discriminative. He is most merciful (Rahmanir-rahim) only to the Muslims, but a cruel despot to non-Muslims. From a scientific standpoint, a god with a human-like physical and psychological attributes is incapable of withstanding the onslaught of time. He must age with time and ultimately perish like all other living beings. Hence, Allah cannot be eternal. Furthermore, Dr Zakir Naik's claim that Allah is omniscient and omnipresent is evidently implausible: a 60-cubit tall physical body can never be omnipresent.

As I have pointed out earlier, Dr Zakir has tried to establish similarities between Hinduism and Islam in his lecture. The CD begins with the pictures of distant galaxies taken by NASA with the help of the Hubble Space Telescope. This is to impress the viewers that Allah, the creator of heaven and earth, the Islamic Allah, has created those galaxies within 6 days of his creation. In tune with Dr Naik's lie, a Muslim reader of my article A Few Questions to Dr Zakir Naik commented that, Allah has created this universe from nothingness.

But the wisdom of Allah, as reflected in the Koran, reveals that Allah was ignorant of even the existence of the solar system, existence of other planets and the real nature of the stars and planets, not to speak of the vast universe, of which the earth is a rather insignificant part. The Koran only says that Allah has created the heaven and earth and nowhere in that book there is the mentioning of the universe. Moreover, the Koranic earth is flat like a carpet covered by a solid roof (21: 32) called the sky and the sun and the moon revolving round this flat stationary earth (21:33). The verse (67:3) of the Koran asserts that, Allah has created the roof and the seven heavens with such perfection that no one is able to find a crack in Allah’s creation. All such revelations obviously reflect Allah's limited knowledge regarding the real nature of this vast universe.

For the sake of argument, let us admit that Allah has created this universe with all its distant stars, galaxies and nebulae. But, according the Koranic descriptions, we have to admit that all these heavenly bodies lie below the solid sky, above which Allah has created his seven heavens. Furthermore, according to modern astronomical data, these distant stars and galaxies are hundreds of thousand or millions of light-years away from the earth. It necessarily implies that the solid sky is also millions of light-years away from the earth. But the "solid sky" that we see is only a few miles away from the earth.

It is also really difficult to comprehend or, entirely unbelievable to be accurate, that the Prophet, during his journey to heaven (miraj) covered such a distance within a few worldly hours. Dr Zakir Naik may argue that the divine animal Buraq and Allah’s qudrah made this impossible possible.

In this context, it is necessary to mention a few other extremely ridiculous astronomical knowledge of Allah, as reflected in the Koran and other Islamic scriptures. It has been pointed out earlier that Allah is ignorant of the fact that the earth is spherical in shape. The verse 17: 12 of the holy Koran says, “We made the night and the day twin marvels. We enshrouded the night with darkness and gave light to the day, so that you may seek the bounty of your Lord and learn to count the seasons and the years. We have made all things manifestly plain to you”. This verse clearly proves that Allah is ignorant of the diurnal motion of the earth. It is easily understandable that Allah is unable to comprehend the rotation of the earth, which according to him is flat like a carpet. Koran 18:83-86 says that the sun sets in a marshy land and the Macedonian Prince Alexander went to the spot where the sun sets. He also observed that the sun was setting in a pond.

A hadith by Bukhari says, “I walked hand in hand with the Prophet when the sun was about to set. We did not stop looking at it. The Prophet asked, ‘Do you know where the sun goes at sunset?’ I replied, ‘Allah and His Apostle know better.’ He said, ‘It travels until it falls down and prostrates itself underneath the Throne. The angels who are in charge of the sun prostrate themselves, also. The sun asks permission to rise again. It is permitted. Then it will prostrate itself again but this prostration will not be accepted. The sun then says, “My Lord, where do You command me to rise, from where I set or from where I rose?” Allah will order the sun to return whence it has come and so the sun will rise in the west" (Shahi Bukhari: V4.B54.N421).This hadith helps one to confirm what has been said earlier.

Some hadiths also imply that Allah is ignorant of the annual movement of the sun and, hence, the real cause of changes of seasons. For example, Tabari ( I:232) says, “Gabriel brings to the sun a garment of luminosity from the light of Allah’s Throne according to the measure of the hours of the day.. The garment is longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, and of intermediate length in autumn and spring. The sun puts on that garment as one of you here puts on his clothes.” A Bukhari hadith, in this context, says, “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hell Fire complained to its Lord saying, “O my Lord! My different parts are eating each other up.” So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in winter, and the other in summer. This is the reason for the severe heat and bitter cold you find in weather” (V4.B54.N482). Another hadith mentions an extremely ridiculous thing that “The sun and the moon were in eclipse for seven days and nights” (Tabari I:332).

From the above narrations, it is not difficult for a reader to understand what kind of treasure of scientific knowledge is there in the Koran and other Islamic scriptures.

One must be utterly foolish to believe that the Koran mentions Big-Bang theory, nuclear physics, genetic science and every other modern scientific topics as touted by these so-called Muslim scholars. The the contents of all such writings are undoubtedly blatant lies, believed only by the horde of brain-dead believers.

Let me conclude by saying that I feel pity for Dr Naik. Being a free citizen of India, he prefers to continue his life as a devoted slave of Arab Imperialism. He has also set out to sell the decomposing carcass of Arabia, the stinking odor of which makes people vomit. But for Dr Naik, “It is the best thing in the world and everyone should adore it”.


 

[1] Rafiqullah, Hadis Sharif (compilation of hadith in Bengali), Haraf Prakashani, Calcutta, 1987, p. 6970. It also provides the names of Prophet Muhammad's 89 ancestors.


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Name: Phillip Hawkins
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 03:45:01 -0500

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Yet again more fine example’s of era refutable facts, which all three ‘peoples of the book’ fail to digest out of shear delusion fear. Keep up the good literal analysis and hopefully inducing factual awakenings for the blind. It pains me to read the onslaught of attacks by theists on cell division and replication but an uneducated acceptance of quantum mechanics. Theists need to read more books.


Name: jenn
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 05:24:43 -0500

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The only scientific facts i find in the koran is , about the earth been flat like a roti, how 10 little devils listened to the koran and how Mr. Mohammad spoke to an angel. LOL


Name:
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 21:10:26 -0500

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"The only scientific facts i find in the koran is , about the earth been flat like a roti" funny that xians should mention koran says so when their miserable unholy bible says the same lies....LOL...." It is He Who sits above the circle of the earth, and whose inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heaven like a curtain, and He spread them out like a tent to dwell." (Isaiah 40:22)


Name: continuum
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 21:56:06 -0500

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While I feel it is necessary to expose Zakir Naik for his tall claims and the claims of Muslims that embryology etc. are given in quran, I know all religious scriptures have a dose of unscientific non-sense in them. The problem is NOT these unscientific things, it is intolerance that is dangerous. But surely, this article is necessary because Muslims believe that Quran is entirely scientific and that it is word for word from God. In addition some Muslims do not feel all the wrongs mentioned in Quran is unethical, because Quran is from God. Exposing unscientific things in Quran will at the least make Muslims to think before acting out other parts of Quran, I hope.


Name: jenn
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 23:22:27 -0500

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what do you think of these comments in the Quran? Allah asks Muhammed to examine the sky to see if it has any cracks. 67:3 Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66 Allah turns humans into apes! 7:166 Allah made the stars as missiles to throw at devils. 67:5 don't have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls "that your right hand possess." 23:6 You Dont you think these divine islamic words make good jokes when you are constipated and trying hard to relieve yourself in the lavatory? lol


Name: How about this?
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 23:33:05 -0500

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Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing."


Name: Ibrahim
Date: Wednesday January 28, 2009
Time: 23:36:23 -0500

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Dr. Achari, there is no need for you to feel sorry for Zakir Naik. He does not deserve sympathy at all. He is a big liar who is making money out of fooling Muslims and making them believe that he knows Islam better than any1 else. He has a TV channel, all his books ate for sale, his CD's are for sale. Nothing is for free, even the Daw'ah kit that he has prepared is for a cost. Besides he receives abundant amounts of cash from the Saudis as well as the local Muslims. He runs special Daw'ah classes which last for a duration of 3 to 4 months in which he trains his stooges to convert people to Islam by lying through their teeth. Sadly the Indian Government is not paying heed to what this Naik guy is doing, as it is quite possible that he also has links with jihadi groups. After all he was the one who publicly sympathized with Osama Bin Laden and said that he supported him.


Name: MoScum
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 00:10:15 -0500

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The only scientific fact that I learnt from Koran is a 9 years old girl can have sex with 52 years old man. That is a scientific miracle.


Name: Kufrs set your differences aside and fight Islam.
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 00:53:25 -0500

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Kufrs do not kill each other for proving their gods at least now. So Kufrs should refrain themselves from attacking each other now so that the concentration can be to annihilate Islam once for all. The Kufri differences may be sorted out by debates and dicourses which are generally peaceful in nature.


Name: my brother why look so far i will prove koran is wrong right now !!!!
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 02:17:57 -0500

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my dear brother,pls note : if allah is an infalliable god and koran is from this god verbatim=word for word then even 1 small error means its not from allah.this is logical.now pls read carefully chapter 2 - the cow. 2-222 says women who menstruate r sick-ill.fact is women who menstruate r going through natural fertility menstruational cycle not ill.second it says first allah created earth,then he truned to make - create the heavens.it means that allah first created eath [ 4.3 billion yr old ] and then universe [ 14.5 billion yr old ].....beside this so many other false statements in koran,i lost count.so if u just read chapter 2 carefully u can refute koran INSTANTLY AND FOREVER.mere bhai itni mehnat karke itna lamba article likhne ki kya zarurat hai ?? my brother why waste so much effort to write this article when chapert 2 of koran itself proves koran wrong.piss be on islam believer arabs,koran,muhamed,and imaginary allah.jai ho india ki.kafir hi jeetega,islam harega - truth shall tiumph islam shall loose.islam shikan,allah shikan,koran shikan muhamed shikan.[zakir kaskar - ex-muslim from india ]


Name: Ilham Abullah (ex-muslim)
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 02:36:20 -0500

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Nice work Dr.Brahmachari. Your article raises many interesting lines of consideration. Islamic theology has no credibility. The actual texts that the religion is based on are replete with falsehoods. Islam cannot even take credit for createing the wise traditions contained within its texts. Mohammed merely took these previously existing traditions and beliefs, altered and expanded apon them, and worked them into His poetry to create His treacherous Islam. No human being in known history has betrayed mankind to the extent that Mohammed has. The fact that Mohammeds fraudulent ideology happens to be a religious ideology is truely tragic for a number of reasons. Many peoples throughout history have considered spiritual matters to be sacred and of the utmost importance to human development. Mohammed has made a mockery of such matters.


Name: No Sharia
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 03:00:16 -0500

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MA Khan, Good decision to use moderation. The religious extremists prevent a rational exchange of views in a nonmoderation system. It is a problem though regarding muslims because it is not easy to differentiate between extremist muslims and muslims representing real islam. It demands considerable knowledge but which I know you have. It is too bad that you have to take on this load of work but the times are such. Regards, No Sharia


Name: Rationalist
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 03:14:30 -0500

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Both Islamic and Biblical scriptures attest that earth was created 6000 yrs ago. Good work by Brahmachari. Here is the proof that Bible also approves the age of earth to be 6000 yrs: www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm


Name: Bible and Quran - The Difference
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 03:15:10 -0500

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The Bible is regarded as being inspired by god, but written by humans while the quran itself teaches repeatedly that it is written by god himself. While other religions such as Buddhism and Confucianism don´t even claim that their holy scriptures are inspired (or written) by god this claim made by the quran faces hard challenges when confronted with modern science. Everything in the quran must be without error. That´s why so many muslims are confused by the critics of modern scientists. In contrast, to be inspired by god does not mean very much. I can write any love story and claim that I was inspired by god.


Name: The only way
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 03:25:17 -0500

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This is the only way to keep comments on topic although we lost the benefit of real-time posting.


Name: GoodNewsForIslam
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 03:48:07 -0500

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To, Author - Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari, I regret my misjudgment concerning your last few articles, I respect you. Thanks!

To, Editor - M. A. Khan, the same apology.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 05:46:14 -0500

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Well written Dr.R.B.! This Zakir Naik is the biggest fraud and he peddles his fraud with the help of Saudi Rials, Bahraini and Kuwaiti Dinars. Ther is another madcap from Pakistan who lectures to a large muslim audience in mumbai Israar Ahmed: he is a fanatic who instigates Indian muslims to give"dawa" and convert as many hindus to islam and when they have a sizeable population go on a jihad rampage. All this he says in secular India! And according to him secularism is manmade while Sharia is divine which will eventually rule the world. Some wishful thinking this evil idiot has!


Name: Dr Z.N.....to clear misconceptions of your mind
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:26:01 -0500

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Question Qur’an says that Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet. This gives an indication that the earth is flat. Does this not contradict established modern science? >>>>>>Answer 1. Earth made as a carpet The question refers to a verse from the Qur’an in Surah Nuh: "And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)." [Al-Qur’an 71:19] But the sentence in the above verse is not complete. It continues in the next verse, explaining the previous verse. It says: "That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads." [Al-Qur’an 71:20] A similar message is repeated in Surah TaHa: "He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)...." [Al-Qur’an 20:53] The surface of the earth i.e. earth’s crust is less than 30 miles in thickness and is very thin as compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth are very hot, fluid and hostile to any form of life. The earth’s crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Qur’an rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths. 2. Carpet can also be spread on other than an absolute flat surface Not a single verse of the Qur’an says that the earth is flat. The Qur’an only compares the earth’s crust with a carpet. Some people seem to think that carpet can only be put on an absolute flat surface. It is possible to spread a carpet on a large sphere such as the earth. It can easily be demonstrated by taking a huge model of the earth’s globe covering it with a carpet. Carpet is generally put on a surface, which is not very comfortable to walk on. The Qur’an describes the earth crust as a carpet, without which human beings would not be able to survive because of the hot, fluid and hostile environment beneath it. The Qur’an is thus not only logical, it is mentioning a scientific fact that was discovered by geologists centuries later


Name: Dr Z.N.....cont
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:28:58 -0500

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3. Earth has been spread out Similarly, the Qur’an says in several verses that the earth has been spread out. "And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: how excellently We do spread out!" [Al-Qur’an 51:48] Similarly the Qur’an also mentions in several other verses that the earth is an expanse: "Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse" "And the mountains as pegs?" [Al-Qur’an 78:6-7] None of these verses of the Qur’an contain even the slightest implication that the earth is flat. It only indicates that the earth is spacious and the reason for this spaciousness of the earth is mentioned. The Glorious Qur’an says: "O My servants who believe! truly. spacious is My Earth: therefore serve ye Me –(And Me alone)!" [Al-Qur’an 29:56] Therefore none can give the excuse, that he could not do good and was forced to do evil because of the surroundings and circumstances. 4. Earth is geospherical in shape The Qur’an mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: "And we have made the earth egg shaped". [Al-Qur’an 79:30] The Arabic word Dahaha means egg shaped. It also means an expanse. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of the earth. Thus the Qur’an and modern established science are in perfect harmony.(allah knows best) FOR MORE ANSWERS PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK>>>http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm


Name: lw1
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:29:56 -0500

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Muslims often boast about their scientific contribution to the world. Very few Muslims have won Nobel Prize, so the Quran really has not been helpful to them! Come the domination of Islam and there will be chaos ,book burning, mass killings and a descent into dark age.


Name: And Re creation of the earth
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:47:03 -0500

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HEAVENS AND EARTH CREATED IN SIX DAYS AND NOT EIGHT DAYS Question: The Qur’an mentions in several places that the heavens and the earth were created in 6 days but in Surah Fussilat it says that the heavens and the earth were created in 8 days. Isn’t this a contradiction? The same verse also says that the earth was created in 6 days and then later on the heavens were created in 2 days. This is against the Big-Bang theory that the heavens and the earth were created simultaneously.....Answer: 1. Heavens and the Earth created in Six days I do agree that the Qur’an says that the heavens and the earth were created in 6 days i.e. 6 epochs and it is mentioned in Surah Al A’raf chapter 7 verse 54 Surah Yunus chapter 10 verse 3 Surah Hud chapter 11 verse 7 Surah Al Furqan chapter 25 verse 59 Surah Al Sajdah chapter 32 verse 4 Surah Qaf chapter 50 verse 38 Surah Al Hadid chapter 57 verse 4 The verses of the Qur’an which according to you say that the heavens and the earth were created in 8 days are Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verses 9 to 12 "Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two days? And do ye join equals With him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds; He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, High above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, In four days, in accordance with (the needs of) Those who seek (sustenance)." Moreover, He Comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke. He said to it and to the earth. "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly. They said: "We do come (Together), in willing obedience." So He completed them as seven firmaments in two days and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command and We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the decree of (Him) the exalted in might, full of knowledge." [Al-Qur’an 41:9-12] On the face of it, it seems that these verses of the Qur’an give the initial impression that the heavens and the earth were created in 8 days. Allah says in the beginning of this verse that those who exploit this information contained in this passage to raise doubts about its authenticity are equally interested in promulgating blasphemy and denying His unity. Allah is telling us that in course of time, there will emerge unbelievers who will make use of this apparent contradiction.


Name: gwawr
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:48:01 -0500

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The only different between islam and christianity is the fact (for the most part) the christian religion has at least evolved. It took a long time to do, but evolve it did. For the most part, many christians has learned to read the bible and take it as a way to live their life, but NOT in a literal context. Those that still follow the koran, hasn't evolved and still believe that their book is the literal word of a deity.


Name: Creation of the earth part2
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 14:49:10 -0500

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NOTICE TO EDITOR..IF YOU FAIL TO POST MY ANSWERS THAT MEANS YOU ARE HIDEING THE TRUTH. 2. Summa means moreover If you analyse these verses carefully, it speaks about 2 different creations: the earth and the heaven. The earth excluding the mountains was created in 2 days and the mountains were set on the earth standing firm and blessed and measured its sustenance in 4 days. Therefore the earth along with the mountains was created in 6 days according to verse 9 and 10. Verse 11 and 12 says, moreover the heavens were created in 2 days. The Arabic word used in the beginning of verse 11 of Surah Fussilat is summa which means; ‘then’ or ‘moreover’. There are certain Qur’anic translations, which have, used ‘then’ for the word summa which, indicates ‘afterwards’. If ‘then’ is wrongly used for summa then the total of the creation of heaven and earth will be 8 days which will conflict with other verses of the Qur’an which says heavens and earth were created in 6 days and will also conflict with the Big Bang Theory as well as the verse of the Qur’an Surah Al Ambiya chapter 21 verse 30 which says that heavens and the earth were created simultaneously. Therefore the correct translation of the word summa in this verse would be ‘moreover’. Abdullah Yusuf Ali has rightly translated the word summa or moreover which clearly gives an indication that while the earth along with the mountains, etc. was created in 6 days simultaneously the heavens were created in 2 days. Therefore the total does not come to 8 days but 6 days. If a builder says that he will construct a 10 storey building and surrounding compound wall in 6 months and after completion of his project he gives a more detailed account saying that the basement of the building was built in 2 months and the 10 storeys took 4 months and simultaneously, while the basement and the building was being constructed, he also constructed the surrounding of the building along with the compound wall which took 2 months. Therefore both his first and second descriptions are not contradicting but the second statement gives a more detailed account for the construction. 3. Heavens and the Earth created simultaneously The Qur’an describe the creation of the universe in several places, sometimes it says the heavens and the earth (7:54, 10:3, 11:7, 25:59, 32:4, 50:38, 57:4) while in other places it says earth and the heaven (49:9-12, 2:29, 20:4) thus further supplementing the verse of Surah Al Ambiya chapter 21 verse 30 which speaks about the Big-Bang and that the heavens and the earth were created simultaneously. Similarly in Surah Al-Baqara chapter 2 verse 29 "It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Then He turned to the heaven and made them into seven firmaments. And of all things He hath perfect knowledge." [Al-Qur’an 2:29] "It is who has created for you all things on the earth summa simultaneously made the heaven into seven firmaments". Here also if you wrongly translate summa as ‘then’ only then would this verse contradict the Big-bang theory and other verses of the Qur’an. Therefore the correct translation of the word summa is ‘moreover’ or ‘simultaneously’.


Name: Walter Sieruk
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 16:15:23 -0500

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Muhammad taught that "stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at devils." This was the man that presented the "scientific" Quran into the world. [Source THE ISLAMIC INVASION: CONFRONTING THE WORLD'S FASTEST GROWING RELIGION p.205 by Robert Morey]


Name: Vp
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 16:23:33 -0500

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Another great article that certainly will keep the Mohammedans on the defensive. The Arab Imperialism has cost millions of lives. Many have suffered and continue to suffer. Muslims have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca and look who pays for it in India the Indian government and the rest of the citizens of India through their taxes. Who benefits Saudi Arabia. The hell hole where this all came from.


Name: JD
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 19:45:44 -0500

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All I can find is one silly quibble in the article. The correct number of years ago the Earth was created according to Bishop Usher is only 6012 years. You cannot simply add AD plus BC because there is no year zero. The time from mid 1 BC to mid 1 AD is one year. {^_-}


Name: jenn
Date: Thursday January 29, 2009
Time: 21:47:10 -0500

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Its funny how this almighty, all knowing muslim god never knew that this planet we call earth is round. He made a big mess by first telling muslims that the earth is flat like a roti , then changed his divine mind again when he heard Greeks spilling their anti intellectualism about the earth been shaped like a duck egg and told muslims that the earth is indeed the shape of ducks egg, and then again changed his mind when he heard the Babilonians spilling their anti intellectualism about the earth been like a concrete floor with the sky been a roof where if you go up how you will bang your head on the sky roof and told muslims the same nonsense. Prophet Galallio (pbuh) had to be reborn 500 years ago to prove the muslim god to be a joke by proving that our planet earth is round and now we know its round. So the muslim god now hides in shame. LOL


Name: Sujit Das
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 01:08:14 -0500

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I wonder, Allah learnt science from which school!!!

Keep up the good work, Dr. Brahmachari, I will be joining shortly. I am back now.

Best regards -- Sujit Das


Name: another Excellent article .
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 02:12:10 -0500

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another Excellent article. I have read Q book in several translations from varous schools.Q book full of thrash and twisted repeated version old books olke bible and old testament. Every chapter allah praises himself as if he was a narscist or suffering from competition from satan.this book full of gramitical and logical errors. even a man with slightest rationality can eralise them. But muslims rotely learn them in arabic and meorise them. If they really understand and enquire the rationality in it,they simply thrash it and declare it as supid. Many Darwins are yet to come from muslims society. Earth spread like carpet means ,it is surely mean that it earth is flat not for soft surface .it also metions that sun hides under it and takes gods permission to come again with is contunation this stupid thing. Flat earth concept was first written and belived in christians and bible thats why they persecuted copernicus ,who claimed earth is like globe. VEdas mentiond earth is like Gola (sphere or ball shape). It also metioned space study as Khagola.


Name: SURA-2-29....EARTH AND HEAVEN CREATED SIMULTANEOUSLY ????? HAHAHA WHAT A FUNNY FALSEHOOD
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 03:00:00 -0500

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AS PER SOME PORKI-MUSLIM WHO SAYS SUMMA OR WHATEVER....SURA 2-29,SAYS THAT ALLAH CREATED EARTH THEN TURNED TO MAKE 7 HEAVENS.BUT NO SUMMA DOES NOT MEAN THEN IT MEANS SIMULTANEOUSLY....HAHAHAHAHAHAAA...STUPID MUSLIMS U R AGAIN WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG...WHY ??? EARTH IS 4.3 OR 34.5 BILLION YEARS OLD,BUT UNIVERSE IS ATLEAST 14.5 BILLION YEARS OLD SO EVEN UNDR ANY SITUATION YR FAKE KORAN IS FAKE. SUMMA OR NO SUMMA IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.earth us YOUNGER than universe. unievrse is OLDER THAN EARTH.so this muslim himself proves koran is wrong...hahahahahaaaaa...pispiss be on this muslim, alla arabs who believe islam, all muslims, imagianry allah and koran and all things cretaed by muihamed. koranshikan, islamshikan, muihamedshikan, arabskikan.


Name: SURA-2-29 SAYS EARTH AND HEAVENS-UNIVERSE CREATED SIMULTANEOUSLY ITS WRONG SO IT PROVES KORAN IS FAKE
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 03:10:12 -0500

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SURA-2-29 SAYS EARTH AND HEAVENS-UNIVERSE CREATED SIMULTANEOUSLY ITS WRONG SO IT PROVES KORAN IS FAKE. some islamic guy WANTING imaginary hourie and wine drinker,truth hater and falsehood=islam lover says that q-2-29 says that earth created with universe simultanously. pls study the truth,when universe was created some 14 billion years ago there was no sun or planets its just a hot PLASMA ENEGRY gas [ not smoke dhukkan ],but hot gasPLASMA .this cooled and then stars and planets formed.[ not dhukkan again ]. now to come to the main point : koran says earth created first then unievrse created or earth created and moreover-simultenously universe created.KORAN AND U MUSLIM R WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.first comes universe 14 billion years or so ago,and then comes earth some 10 billion years later.so never was earth and universe created together pls accept this falshood of yr pig koran and leave islam now.TRUTH SHALL STAND OUT FROM ERROR,TRUTH ALONE SHALL LIBERATE,TRUTH ALONE SHALL TRIUPH.islam is falsehood,TRUTH IS NATURE.truth has won and islam lost.


Name: Shafee al-Zindig
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 03:12:29 -0500

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Quote from anonymous defender of the indefensible above at 14:47:03 – “Allah says in the beginning of this verse that those who exploit this information contained in this passage to raise doubts about its authenticity are equally interested in promulgating blasphemy and denying His unity. Allah is telling us that in course of time, there will emerge unbelievers who will make use of this apparent contradiction.” …. This has got to be one of the stupidest things I have read in a long while, apart from all the other mind-numbing nonsense Muslim propagandists write. So, in other words, we must all close our minds like you do and ignore all the many actual contradictions in your unscientific Quran. If we don’t, then it means that we are all blasphemers against your Allah. This is too funny for words. Who knows, maybe one day pigs will fly or the cow will jump over the moon or the sun will actually set in a muddy pond or a meteorite will shoot down a spying jinn. You can then put this jinn in a museum with a piece of meteorite sticking from his backside for all us skeptics to marvel at and repent for our blasphemy for denying the lies of Muhammad/Allah. LOL!


Name: The shape of our Planet
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 03:17:05 -0500

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It is almost a ball and not like an egg, slightly flattened at both poles, probably because of it´s rotation, according to modern science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth So how can anybody say that the earth is like an egg? Are eggs flattened at the poles? It is a tragedy to watch muslims desperately trying to defend islam against modern science. So pathetic!


Name: vbv
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 04:36:29 -0500

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Zakir Naik's taqiya is not impressive. He gives his own interpretations to a medieval arabian babble. He is resigned himself to be the arab's slave. He is supremely obligated after the millions of rupees he has received for his slavery. Therefore whatever he says has no credibility at all.


Name: RS
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 06:36:23 -0500

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I recently came across one of the "brilliant" tv programmes of Naik. Among various questions asked one of the questions was posed by a audience from Africa. It appeared that she was on a personal quest. She was christaian and seeking answer to very practical question. Her Question was that according to scriptures if humanity started from adam and eve ( as per what she knew from bible) where did so many humans manage to inhabit earth. Because to her, eve giving birth progeny amounting to billions of people was impossible task. Now she being female and having her own children would know it well. These are to are not exact words but zist of her question. Did it happen because human race in its wisdom started having intercourse with animals to produce more of its kind? She has been to priests , mullahs ,the witch doctors etc etc without getting satisfactory answer. I have to admit a very practical common sense observation. Lo and behold and read awe "wise words" of "great scholar". He explains " no the progeny of adam and eve did not have sex with animals to produce more humans. It is not possible " believe me I am a medical doctor I know it". BUT PROGENY OF ADAM AND EVER STARTED HAVING INCEST AND STARTED PRODUCING MORE OF US. THIS CARRIED ON FOR GENERATIONS. Then my dear Naik overcomes the scenario perpetual incest by being blaze " AT SOME POINT IT STOPED BEING INCEST BECAUSE PEOPLE DID NOT WHO WAS HAVING INETRCOURSE WITH WHO AND WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH RELATIONSHIP". So his conclusion is that we are product of generations of incestual relationship and still perpetuating it. HE IS THE MEDICAL DOCTOR DO WE BELIEVE HIM. I thought it was icing on the cake being from same profession I could not watch it any more. I felt nauseous, FLABBERGHASTED and to put it in cricketing term all my three stumps were up in air. I would like the clip of that programme if anybody has come across this programme and knows where to find on the net. that as I could not record from TV at the time.


Name: Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 11:55:00 -0500

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It is important to note that Allah is capable of doing any miracle He likes with his qudrah. But He is failing miserably to elevate the level of intelligence of His beloved followers, including that of Dr Zakir Naik.


Name: Brian C.
Date: Friday January 30, 2009
Time: 12:32:45 -0500

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I have studied all the religions of this world and have found only one truth. The various beliefs of God have stemmed from one true God and that as men have spread out across this globe they have changed or strayed from the truth in order to allow their sins to continue or to control and influence those around them. Those who have created their own gods are known as cultists. To know if you are in a cult religion you have to see it your religion has you: 1) Bowing down to idols (images of your god or his followers) 2) Adding words to what God has had set down. i.e. creating extra book like Koran, Book of Mormon, etc. 3) Having only one person as true head of Religion, i.e. Pope, John Smith, Mohammad, Buddha, etc. 4) Rituals that you must follow: Confessions, Baptisms for the dead, High Mass, Bow to pray to Mecca, etc. So, unless you Believe that God is the only one to pray to and that He came to this Earth in the form of a man in Jesus Christ. That only through salvation in Jesus can you get to Heaven. That we are all sinners from Adam to the end of this world, so we are all equal in the eyes of God. Then your in trouble. This is the problem we face, every one says that their way is the right way and the only way. But only the Muslims still have the violent tenants in effect in their religion. All the others have moved on pass their violent historys. I myself have studied all the sciences as well, and I now know what is the truth about God. He is real. He has a plan for mankind. Mohammad is not His prophet. The Koran is just a weak copy of the Talmud, with words changed to praise Mohammed. The name Allah was the name of a false god in ancient times. And that asking questions and studying all the other religion can you only find out the real truth. So, please go study. The Truth is out there.


Name: ONE FUNNY THOUGHT...LOL...
Date: Saturday January 31, 2009
Time: 07:30:53 -0500

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ONE FUNNY THOUGHT...LOL....ALLAH LEARNT SCIENCE FROM MUHAMED DISCIPLE ZAKIR NAIK SCHOOL. IF FIRST EARTH WHICH IS 4.5 BILLION YRS OLD WAS CREATED THEN OR SIMULTANEOUSLY UNIVERSE WHICH IS 14 BILLION YRS OLD CREATED MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS PER KORAN/ISLAM. SO ITS PROVEN THAT THAT ALLAH-IMAGINARY ARAB DEITY STUDIED UNDER ZAKIR NAIK WHO LEARNT FROM ILLITRATE MUHAMED...LOL

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Name: Latifa
Date: Friday Feb 25, 2009
Time: 12:32:45 -0500

I have read your article, and I would like to attempt to answer some of your questions. I admit that I have not read any articles by Dr Naik and do not know anything of the Indian scriptures. I am not a religious expert, neither a fanatic. I have read vastly and I hope some of the points I make will help you. Each point refers in order to your paragraphs within the text:

In answer to your question regarding the age of mankind according to God, it is a well known fact that the Christian scriptures were changed and re-written by man over a period of time. Not surprising, one of the explications for this is that some of the contents (probably due to their advanced nature or complexity in ideas) were impossible for the readers of the time to understand. Furthermore, the Quran states that one of it’s objectives is to clarify some of the misapprehensions relating the earlier scriptures, and actually explains that the worlds were created within 6 periods, without specifying time or order.

Allah and God are one and the same. Both expressions simply refer to One Supreme Being/Creator. Regarding your question “what Allah was doing before Creating” I would agree with Dr Naik, that indeed the Chapter 112 of the Quran is a very good depiction of the nature of God. One that no-one but God Himself would have been capable of expressing so adequately. I would not take much notice of The Prophet’s reply, (if so was the case) which was probably the best answer he could find at the time to a very stupid question.

The existence of this idol, who was actually the chief “God” of Mecca, as are all idols direct proof that, human beings (even though some would deny it) have an innate notion, and a need, for their Creator in the same natural manner as they do for their mother or father. Some used this instinct to create idols to worship, when without a guide to show them from where this instinctive need arises.

I cannot clearly see from your statement, where your idea comes from that God is a man. The very assertion here is that he is a Supreme Being, the root of all creation and existence. As such He would certainly be able to create a child in the womb of a Virgin. However this debate simply links to whether you believe in The Creator or not. If you believe that all existence came about by mere chance, obviously this would be a difficult concept for you to grasp.

If you think just for a moment about God and his punishment as if He were a Leader with a set of laws in a country, you would quickly see why these would be necessary. Laws and the subsequent punishments for breaking them are needed even by God to govern, when dealing with human beings.

Now, on this next point which you make about Allah’s lack of Wisdom, I am quite baffled, and I ask myself if I have completely missed something. As I understand it God pointed out a few facts about the solar system, planets and universe, which were not actually discovered until very, very recently. Such things as that of the rotation of the sun and the expansion of the Universe: Quran 36:38 and 51:47, and even fore told us that we would one day travel into space: Quran 55:33

I think that it’s worthy to mention that the Quran would have had to contain information and statements, that would have had to have been relevant and understandable to the more primitive society at the time and it’s circumstances. Also it would have had to include material for the later generations of believers and does make reference as such on many occasions. Maybe for this reason we should not scrutinize every metaphoric or symbolic statement which is made in the Book and concentrate on the parts that touch our hearts and minds.

So briefly, baring all of this in mind, how could anyone who takes into account current scientific issues and phenomena and rationally asks themselves the questions “did this really all come about by chance?” and “Are we here just for this lifetime, in this fictitious and restrictive world of our own invention to see how far we get on in our careers, our main goal being the house of our dreams?” doubt that there is a Creator and that this Creator has Power over all things, whether we call Him Allah, God or Yahweh? And maybe he does love us enough to send down a Book or Books, to give hope to those of us who believe and a Guidance for all to follow. Quran 2:2:3:4


 
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