Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Irshad Manji in 'Glenn Beck' Show in CNN

BECK: You know, I have been asking on this program where are the Muslims who speak out against Islamic extremism? I am thrilled to have one now. Her name is Irshad Manji. She is a feminist Muslim. She is an author of "The Trouble with Islam Today", the creator of a brand new documentary, "Faith Without Fear". Irshad, we`ve been trying to get you on the show for a while. Great to have you on the program

IRSHAD MANJI, AUTHOR, "THE TROUBLE WITH ISLAM TODAY": Thank you so much.

BECK: You`re a Muslim.

MANJI: I am.

BECK: You`ve got death threats coming out of your wazoo.

MANJI: I do.

BECK: Yes. And it`s because you are speaking your mind.

MANJI: Yes, and because I insist on having one, and look, Glenn, I live in a free and democratic society. I`m a refugee to this part of the world. Every day, Glenn, without any exaggeration, I wake up thanking Allah, thanking God that I wound up in a part of the world where, as a Muslim girl and now as a Muslim woman, I can dream big dreams and tap much, if not most if not most of my potential. Millions of people around the world don`t yet have the privileges and the freedoms that you and I do. How irresponsible would it be for us to turn our backs on those freedoms? I am asking my fellow Muslims, particularly in the west, what in God`s name are we doing with our freedoms?

BECK: I mean, I just want to have a Christian-Muslim make-out fest with you right now. It has been...

MANJI: Don`t tempt me.

BECK: I know.

MANJI: Getting hot here.

BECK: It is so -- it is so refreshing to hear. Now, this leads me to the question am I only hearing this from you because you have death threats and most people in America who are Muslim are afraid to take on those death threats, or are you a freak of nature?

MANJI: Probably both.

BECK: Both.

MANJI: But let`s leave the freak of nature aside for a second, OK, because that`s a psychiatric case...

BECK: Right.

MANJI: ... I`m not willing to delve into on, you know, national television. The fear is very, very real. You know, Glenn, I speak right across the country, particularly at universities, and invariably, young Muslims will follow me to the book signing lineup and will whisper in my ear, "Thank you". And when I know I`m not going to make them defensive by asking my next question, I say, "Well, why whisper it to me? Where was your voice when you and I were being denounced by the jihadists in that audience during the Q and A?" And every time I hear, "Irshad, you have the luxury of being able to walk away from this campus two hours from now. I don`t. I don`t want to be stalked for supporting you." And in many cases if they`re women, they`ll say, "I don`t want to be raped for supporting you." This is happening right here in America, in our own communities as Muslims.

BECK: OK. Irshad, will you do me a favor? We are putting together a special for this year that is going to be Islam in America, the good and the evil. And we -- we need somebody to help navigate us through to be able to show the good and the evil.

MANJI: I have to tell you some good news, Glenn. You know, I`m not the only voice...

BECK: I know you`re not. I know.

MANJI: ... of moderation and reform out there. I`m one of the louder ones, it`s true. So sue me. I got big hair. I need to have a big mouth. All right?

BECK: Got it.

MANJI: But I can tell you that there is an emerging movement within Islam to liberalize my faith and proof positive of that is that this coming March in Florida is going to be something called the Secular Islam Summit. This will probably be the very first international congress of reform- minded Muslims from around the world. And Glenn, I am personally inviting you to be my guest. Come with me.

BECK: I would -- I would love to.

MANJI: Attend, and bring your cameras.

BECK: Are you going to provide the flack jackets?

MANJI: I know a few guys who can help us out in that department.

BECK: I would love to.

MANJI: Yes.

BECK: Absolutely love to.

MANJI: Because, you know, what we really want to show is that reform- minded Muslims are not alone. We`re not out there trying to change the minds of the fundamentalists. That will be like hitting our, you know, heads against a brick wall. What we really want to show younger Muslims is that, in your greatest moments of despair, when you think you`re alone for wanting to open up this faith, you`re not. You know, our enemies can pick us off individually, but collectively we`re going nowhere except forward. BECK: Where are the -- where`s the National Organization of Women? Do you ever ask yourself why the hell aren`t these people standing up? You know, I -- I`m a conservative.

MANJI: And I`m a liberal.

BECK: Yes. And when I saw the National Organization of Women, what they did with Bill Clinton, I realized, "Oh, this is a political organization. This isn`t really a real movement." Here this isn`t political. This is about women!

MANJI: Yes. Human rights should never be political. Human rights don`t have to be partisan.

BECK: Yes.

MANJI: That`s what they`re called human rights.

BECK: Human. So where are the human rights organizations? Where is the National Organization of Women?

MANJI: You know that`s why I called my forthcoming PBS documentary "Faith Without Fear". OK? What I`m doing in this documentary is showing that, you know, we all have fears of various kinds. The fear of asking questions out loud, the fear of offending minorities in a multi-cultural society, the fear of being ostracized within your own community and sometimes even worse than ostracized. But that, again, in a democratic society, we have got to face those fears, Glenn, because that is the only way we can find our unique voices and take ownership of the solutions that are in front of us. It`s part of not just our right. Forget rights; let`s talk about personal responsibilities.

BECK: I love you.

MANJI: You know?

BECK: I love you. Listen, can we have you back and spend an hour with you some time?

MANJI: What do I get from you in return?

BECK: Oh, baby.

MANJI: Don`t even go there.

BECK: Now I know. Whatever you would need. I love...

MANJI: I`ll tell you what in return.

BECK: Yes.

MANJI: I want you to come to the secular Islam summit.

BECK: I will be there. I will be there.

MANJI: All right?

BECK: You got it.

MANJI: We reform-minded Muslims need the support of vocal non- Muslims. We`re all in this together, Glenn, and you know it.

BECK: I`m with you.

MANJI: All right.

BECK: Irshad, thank you so much for being here.

MANJI: Pleasure.


 

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