The Demise of Islam?
17 Jul, 2008
From FrontPageMagazine.com on July 15, 2008
- Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Abul Kasem, an ex-Muslim who is the author of hundreds of articles and several books on Islam including, Women in Islam. He was a contributor to the book Leaving Islam – Apostates Speak Out as well as to Beyond Jihad: Critical Views From Inside Islam.
FP: Abul Kasem, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Kasem: Good to be here Jamie.
FP: We’re here today to discuss the potential demise of Islam and the fact that the Prophet Muhammad actually predicted this demise himself – a fact that sounds somewhat odd and that many are unaware of. What is the best way to start a discussion of this issue?
Kasem: Well, I would start by asking this question: could the current civilization ever imagine a world without Islam?
To many, this might sound like a dim-witted question. After all, Islam has been with us for fifteen hundred years. It just doesn’t even seem thinkable that Islam could possibly die out. Currently, after all, Islam is the raging storm afflicting every part of the world, especially with the mayhem of the Islamist terrorists and the escalating oil prices – and oil largely flows from a few Islamic lands. The leaders of the un-Islamic world are busy pleasing Islam in whatever manner. Even the United Nation’s Human Rights Organisation has just passed a resolution disallowing discussion of how Islam violates fundamental human rights in many Islamic paradises. In this context, it seems almost impossible to imagine a world free of Islam.
FP: Absolutely, and it is totally unrealistic to think that Islam will ever disappear.
Kasem: No. Despite the world situation that I just painted, what you say is not true at all.
FP: Please explain.
Kasem: We learn from the annals of Islamic history that Islam is not that powerful and that it is actually very vulnerable. Much evidence suggests that it may very well die under its own weight.
FP: Fair enough, please expand.
Kasem: There is a secret life of Islam and it may very well lead to the death of Islam. The history of Islam, for instance, tells us that Islam needs blood to thrive. Human blood is the life-line of Islam, violence its hallmark, and hate its foundation. In the beginning, Islam lives on the blood of infidels. When that is unavailable, or becomes difficult, Islam must cannibalize itself. As a car needs gasoline to run, so does Islam need human blood just to run its own course, set by Muhammad, its Prophet.
FP: Sounds very much like communism. It starts off extinguishing the “class enemy” and then when there are no more external “enemies” to slaughter, the killing machine turns on itself. Terror takes on a life of its own and the killing machine devours its own children and then ultimately engages in suicide. This totalitarian impulse ultimately stems from a death wish.
Kasem: Precisely. And so the demise of Islam is inherent in the very seed of Islamic cannibalism. And so to understand why Islam, eventually, will self-destruct we must first learn a few lessons from the annals of Islamic history. Let me briefly paint the picture:
During the last few decades we have witnessed Islamic cannibalism right, front and center. The most recent event was the Iran-Iraq war, in which millions of Muslims were killed, not by the infidels (kafirs) but by Muslims. Undoubtedly, in not-too-distant a future, we are bound to witness many such events of Islamic cannibalism.
FP: Is Islamic cannibalism theologically rooted?
Kasem: Absolutely. The earliest example of Islamic cannibalism, after all, is found in the Qur’an itself -- in verses 9:108-110. These verses refer to the gutting of a rival mosque on the instruction of Muhammad, when he was returning after his expedition to Tabuk, a resourceful town in the Syrian-Byzantine territory. This Islamic incursion story goes like this:
Proceeding further from Tabuk on his way to Medina, Muhammad halted at Dhu Awan at Quba (about 4 kms. from Medina), an hour’s journey from Medina. There, an opposition Muslim group had built a mosque. Previously, while Muhammad was making preparations for the march to Tabuk, this group of Muslims approached him and said, “O Messenger of God, we have built a mosque for the sick and needy and for rainy and cold nights, and we would like you to visit us and pray for us”(The History of al Tabari, vol.ix, p.61). Busy with his preparations for Tabuk expedition, Muhammad excused himself from visiting this newly-built mosque, but assured the dissident group that he would call on their mosque while returning to Medina (from Tabuk).
On his return journey from Tabuk and halting at Dhu Awan, Muhammad accused builders of this mosque of being unjust. Without any warning, he sent a band of jihadists to burn and destroy the freshly constructed mosque. He said to his band of hooligans, “Go to this mosque whose owners are unjust people and destroy and burn it” (ibid, p.61). His band of raging arsonists stealthily entered the bustling mosque and set fire to it when it was filled with people assembled for the evening prayer. The worshippers dispersed in utter terror. Allah promptly sent down verse 9:107, 110, justifying the destruction of opposition mosques. To further validate his gutting of this mosque, Muhammad concocted the story that he suspected that the builders of the ‘Mosque of Dissent’ were planning to assassinate him.
FP: So what is this story in the Qur’an teaching? What is its message?
Kasem: Those verses of the Qur’an, when taken in true Islamic spirit, can only mean one thing: the call for the devastation of rival mosques. The most important question is: which mosques are genuinely Islamic and which mosques are not so Islamic? Since there is no central authority in Islam to decide on this, it becomes a moot-point. It is, therefore, a free-market in Islam when it comes to destruction and bloodshed.
FP: The consequences?
Kasem: The consequences are obvious and inevitable: Sunnis are free to destroy Shia mosques; the Shias are permitted to destroy Sunni mosques; both these groups are free to destroy Ahmedi or Kurdish mosques, and so on. Within each group there are sub-groups and they are also entitled to commit such atrocities on other groups. This is exactly what is going on in almost all Islamic Paradises.
In Iraq, Sunnis are destroying Shia mosques and murdering them. In Pakistan, Sunnis are killing the Shias and burning their mosques. Then the Shias are avenging this by destroying Sunni mosques. In Bangladesh, both the Sunnis and the Shias are occupying Ahmedi mosques and setting them on fire. This musical chair of mosque-burning and killing is proceeding unabated, each group claiming they are the true Muslims. Each group is adamant they are absolutely following the Qur’an and Sunna (Muhammad’s deeds and examples), the two principal sources of Islam.
Interestingly, this fratricide is unstoppable, as the Islamic Ummah is far from monolithic. No one knows the precise divisions among the Ummah. But Muhammad had predicted that the Muslims will be divided into seventy-two sects, each one killing one another, and together killing the infidels.
FP: So Muhammad actually himself predicted this cannibalism with Islam itself? Give us the theological evidence.
Kasem: Yes he did. There are many ahadith that discuss Muhammad’s prediction about his Ummah. Let me give a few:
Seventy-two of the seventy-three Muslim sects will go to hell; only one of the sects will be in Paradise; it is the majority group…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 3.40.4580)
Islam has seventy branches…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 3.40.4659)
Whoever creates disunity in the Islamic community kill him…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 3.40.4744)
In a note (footnote 4153), the English translator of Sunaan Abu Dawud, Professor Ahmad Hasan admits that it is permissible to ‘cannibalize’ dissident Islamic group/s. He writes: ‘The Prophet (may peace be upon him) did not tolerate disunity and schism among Muslims. Therefore, he ordered that, instead of causing separation and disagreement in the community, it is better to kill the person who causes disunity.’
Another hadis (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 40.4747, Sahih Bukhari, 4.55.577) asks to murder those Muslims who are insincere in their faith. This hadis even tells that Allah loves the Muslims who kill those insincere Muslims.
FP: Tell us a few major sects and sub-sects of Islam:
Kasem: Here are some of the main ones:
Sunnis: Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, Hanbal
Sufis
Wahabis
Salafists
Submitters (Qur’an only Muslims)
Khilafites
Deobandis
Shia: Jaffri, Islamilia, Zaidiah, Yazdis
Ashariyahs
Alawis
Qadianis
Ahmedis
Druzes
Dawoodis
Bohras
Kharizis
Kurds
Needless to say, each group (and sub group) thinks they are the true Muslims, and only they have the right to practice Islam. Thus often, they cannibalize one another. There is no tolerance, compromise or truce among these groups.
FP: Tell us about a few more cases of Islamic cannibalism that were perpetrated during the nascent stages of Islam.
Kasem: Well, I mentioned the very first Islamic cannibalism mentioned in the Qur’an. Ever since then, the practice of killing Muslims by Muslims is truly endemic. During the time of Khulafa Rashedin (the rightly guided caliphs) this cannibalism took a serious turn, sparing not even the two last caliphs, ‘Uthman and Ali. Both of them were murdered by savage Islamic cannibals. Among these two cases of Islamic cannibalism, perhaps the murder of ‘Uthman stands out to be the most aghast. Here is how it was carried out, as described by Tabari (The History of al Tabari, volume XV, p219-20):
…Muhammad b. Abi Bakr, accompanied by Kinanah b. Bishr b. ‘Attab, Sudan b. Humran and ‘Amr b. al-Hamiq, reached ‘Uthman by climbing over the wall from the house of ‘Amr b. Hazm. They found ‘Uthman, with his wife Na’ilah, reading the Surah of the Cow from the Qur’an. Muhammad b. Abi Bakr came up to them and seized ‘Uthman’s beard. “May God disgrace you, you hyena,” he said. ‘Uthman replied, “I am no hyena. I am God’s servant and the Commander of the Faithful. ”Muhammad said, “Neither Mua’wiyah nor anyone else has been of any use to you.” ‘Uthman said, “Son of my brother, let go my beard. Your father would not have gripped like this.” Muhammad replied, “Had my father seen you doing these things, he would have denounced you for them, and I mean to do worse to you than grab your beard.” ‘Uthman said, “I seek God’s help and support against you.” Then Muhammad pierced his forehead with a broad iron-tipped arrow that he was holding. Kinanah b. Bishr raised some arrows of the same kind that he was holding, and plunged them into the base of ’Uthman’s ear down to his throat. Then he fell on him with his sword until he killed him.
According to ‘Abd al-Rahman—Abu ‘Awn:
Kinanah b. Bishr struck his forehead with an iron bar. He pitched forward, face down, and Sudan b. Humran al-Muradi beat him after he had fallen and killed him.…As to ‘Amr b.al-Hamiq, he jumped on ‘Uthman and sat on his chest—he was still barely alive—and stabbed him nine times. ‘Amr said, “I stabbed him three times for God’s sake and six times because of the anger in my breast against him.”
If we are troubled reading those passages, we must remember that all of those who ‘cannibalized’ ‘Uthman were impeccable Muslims—the most ardent jihadists, belonging to the stock of Muhammad the Hashim clan of the Quraysh.
This Islamic cannibalism did not end there. The cycle continued until Aisha (Prophet Muhammad’s dearest wife), along with two of her brothers-in-law, Talha and Zubayr set out to avenge ‘Uthman’s murder. When she reached al-Basrah, a rebel stronghold, she killed (by beheading) six hundred of the suspected rebels who had ‘cannibalized’ ‘Uthman. Ali, being sucked into the vortex of this cannibalistic cycle, set out to punish Aisha’s gang.
The result: ten thousand Muslims, including Talhah and Zubayr lay perished in al-Basrah, equal in proportion from both sides. Aisha’s life was spared by the cannibals, but her camel was hamstrung.
In Islamic history this is known as the Battle of the Camel. This is perhaps one of the most moving examples of how Islamic cannibalism really perpetuates a never-ending cycle of violence and mayhem. This is the reason why we shall never observe a let up to the succession of Islamic cannibalism in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt or Sudan.
The narration of this very important chain of cannibalism will remain incomplete till we learn the fate of all the participants sucked into this whirlpool of cannibalism and counter cannibalism.
The following passages, adopted from Tabari’s Tarikh al-Tabari (vol. xvii) illustrate very briefly how this cycle of Islamic cannibalism continued, and will continue:
Muawiyah b. Abi Sufyan, the governor of Syria and a close relative of caliph ‘Uthman demanded from Ali the handing over of the killers of ‘Uthman. When Ali refused to comply with this request, Muawayiah b. Abi Sufyan, and his right-hand man, ‘Amr b. al-‘As (the deposed governor of Egypt), became open enemies of Ali. They gathered forces and set off to attack Ali. Ali met this force at Siffin. Fearful of defeat at the hands of Ali’s fierce and well-trained army, Muwayiah and ‘Amr devised quite an innovative trick. Their soldiers attached copies of the Qur’an at the tip of their lances and raised them high in air. Ali’s soldiers went in stupor and were hesitant to charge their enemy, lest they trample the Holy Qur’an. Both sides remained standstill—the battle became a stalemate. In the end, both parties agreed to stop fighting and decided on a speedy negotiated settlement by appointing an arbiter from each side. Having mutually reached this agreement, both sides separated and returned.
But not everyone on Ali’s side was happy with his prompt decision. A faction of Islamist extremists thought judgment belonged to Allah and Ali’s decision to appoint arbiters for a peaceful settlement is contrary to Islamic principle. This dissident group of Ali was known as the Kharijites. They insisted that Ali resume fighting. But Ali could not renege on his treaty of a peaceful settlement. The Kharijites declared Ali to be a sinner and asked him to repent. Initial attempt by Ali for reconciliation with the Kharijites met with feeble success. So, ultimately, Ali had to cannibalize the cannibals. He had to fight a major battle at the canal of Nahrawan, east of river Tigris in Iraq. This battle ended with a merciless mass slaughter of the Kharijites. But this cannibalization did not completely eradicate the Kharijite problem. Many Kharijites survived this genocide, went into hiding, and some of them returned to Kufa (Ali’s headquarter in Iraq) stealthily. A few of them went to Egypt.
FP: Let’s get back to Muhammad. He gave the instructions for -- and paved the foundation to -- Islamic cannibalism. He also, in this context, made a prediction in regards to Islam’s demise, correct?
Kasem: Yes, he predicted the demise of Islam.
As strange and as unbelievable as it might appear in these days of unremitting Islamic terrorism and Islamic cannibalism, Muhammad himself had predicted the decline of Islam. Comparing Islam with a snake, he likened Islam to be confined between the mosques of Mecca and Medina. Please read these Sahih ahadith from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim:
Belief returns and goes back to Medina like a snake...(Sahih Bukhari, 3.30.100)
There will be no trace of Islam in some believers...(Sahih Bukhari, 9.84.65)
Islam was initiated as something strange, and it would revert to its (old position) of being strange, and it would concentrate between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole…(Sahih Muslim, 1.0270)
The Islamic faith will recede to Medina just as the serpent crawls into its hole…(Sahih Muslim, 1.0271, 0272)
Allah needs sinners… (Sahih Muslim 37.6620, 6622)
Muslims will diminish in number and they will go back to where they started…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 2.19.3029)
Muslims will be the scum and the rubbish even though their numbers may increase; the enemy will not fear Muslims anymore. This will be because the Muslims will love world and dislike death…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 37.4284)
Muhammad’s contemporaries were the best Muslims; after three generations, the Muslims will be mainly treacherous and untrustworthy… (Sahih Bukhari, 5.57.2, 3)
Muslims will be destroyed through the hands of some Quraysh young men…(Sahih Bukhari, 9.87.180)
There will be much killing during the last days of the Muslims…(Sahih Bukhari, 9.88.183)
And here are a few excerpts from the greatest of all Islamic minds, al Ghazali:
Muhammad said Islam began with a few and will soon return to a few as it began. The few of those true Muslims are those who follow to purify Muhammad’s sunnah and follow strictly his traditions…(Ihya Ulum al Din by Ghazali, Tr. Fazl-ul-Karim. First edition. Darul Ishat, Karachi, 1993. p.1.49).
Muhammad said, “The wealth of a Muslim in near future will be goats and sheep. He will roam in caves of hillocks and places of water. He will shift from one place to another with his religion and calamities.”…(ibid, p.2.142)
Muhammad said, “In near future such a time will come upon man when it will be difficult to save his religion. To save religion he will flee away like a jacket from one cave to another and from one hillock to another.”…(ibid)
FP: Ho do we understand Allah's mindset in all of this?
Kasem: It is impossible to understand Allah’s mind. In many verses He threatens infidels with severe punishment, including death if they do not convert to Islam. However the Qur’an also demonstrates Allah’s frustration. Allah is so disappointed with Muhammad’s performance that He promises to send a beast as a final messenger (27:82). In verse 68:51 Allah admits that the Qur’an had made Muhammad a mad man, thus implying that Muhammad, after all, could not be trusted to save Islam. To accentuate Muhammad’s mental instability Allah says in verse 41:36 that Allah let Satan confuse Muhammad. In verses 38:82 83 Allah admits that He let loose Iblis, the Satan; He did not want to control Iblis. This means Satan is more powerful than Allah. Thus, it is imperative that eventually, Satan will triumph and destroy Islam. This, of course, is the desire of Allah, as nothing may transpire without Allah’s wish. Allah even admits that He loves to sow discord about His Book (the Qur’an, 41:45).
FP: So what do we conclude from what you have demonstrated here today?
Kasem: We can conclude that there is a certain ending to Islam and that those who wish for it do not necessarily need to do anything. All that is needed is to let it run its own course. It is bound to self-destruct, if we are to learn from the lessons of Islamic history. The un-Islamic world just needs to protect itself with strict security measures, never letting the various groups of Islam unite to kill the infidels. Once the infidels learn the secret life of Islam, it is simply a matter to watch how Islam implodes. Once the Islamic oil runs dry, once the world secures a reliable source of energy to replace oil, once the infidels stand together, and once the infidels become iron-resolute to contain Islam in their lands, Islam will die a natural death.
FP: Abul Kasem, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.
Kasem: My pleasure Jamie.
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Abul Kasem is an Bengali ex-Muslim and academic. He has contributed in Leaving Islam - Apostates Speak Out and Beyond Jihad - Critical Voices from Inside. He has also written extensively on Islam in various websites and is the author of five e-Books: A Complete Guide to Allah, Root of Terrorism ala Islamic Style, Sex and Sexuality in Islam, Who Authored the Quran? and Women in Islam. Mr. Kasem leaves in Sydney, Australia. He can be contacted at abul88@hotmail.com.
Name: Saul Wall
Date: Wednesday July 16, 2008
Time: 22:59:39 -0700
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While I also believe that Islam will self destruct it is for different reasons. Islamic nations are seeing falling fertility rates. Even Western immigrant communities, whose fertility rates are dropping slower than their home countries, are seeing the same thing. Apostasy of varying degrees is everywhere with crowded European mosques filled mostly with first generation immigrants who are no longer arriving at the past rates and while there are plenty of radicalized second and third generation Muslims to give an impression of rising observance, many more are hoping to move to cities with fewer other Muslims. The terrorists and true believing zealots are forcing more people to reevaluate the faith. In France, where 8 to 9% of the population is supposed to be Muslim, surveys can only find 3% of respondents self identifying as such. In Europe and across the Islamic world, Christians are planting churches and converting Muslims secretly and Specialty language evangelism TV are accelerating this process. Secular and political opposition movements are also using satellite and Internet resources but, as a secularist, I have to grudgingly admit that the Evangelists are far better at this. In a demographic, Islam is a stalled jet aimed upwards. It still has a rising population but the power behind that rise is gone. And in an intellectual sense it is bleeding apostates to Christianity and the secular world of prosperity, science and history. Rising literacy are forcing Muslims to choose between admitting what their religion says and becoming theocratic zealots or worse, and admitting that they can no longer be Muslims. But I disagree that we can just sit back and wait for it to happen. This transition will be bloody as true believers try to stop the exodus by terrorizing those who flee the ideology. We need to make every effort to accelerate the process so that as many people can be rescued from Islam before the five pillars crush everyone when they fall.
Name: very good article pls keep up this divine godly work
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 00:39:12 -0700
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god mother nature is truth.surely truth shal stand out from error=falsehood-judeo-christianity/islam.truth shall triumph and judei-christianity/islam shall be destroyed.
Name: Parallels between Communism and Islam
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 00:44:00 -0700
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Terrorists paved the way for the decline of communism some decades ago, and nowadays we can watch the same thing happen to islam. Terrorism is the reaction to the stagnation of an ideology, if there is no way to expand peacefully. And there is another parallel: Communism failed because of its economic desaster and so will islam! Any statistics confirm that islamic countires fail to cope with the challenges of a modern economy. There is no powerful middle class in most muslim countries, medium sized companies are very few and rather weak. There are no modern products and technologies worldwide developed and produced by muslims. All they can succeed in is to exploit their natural resources. This is, to quote the nice article above, another example for (economic) cannibalism. There are muslim countries even cannibalising their scare water resources without planning. In a few decades, I believe, the muslim world will collapse economically much like the soviet union did.
Name: judaism is a poison and its fruit christianity/islam is also poison
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 00:44:51 -0700
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religion in general is man greated and more so for poison genocidal judaism and its poison fruits : christianity/islam.i hope the poison of this unhold trinity of judeo-christianity/islam is destroyed soon.world has suffered too much in last 5300 yrs and now we need humanity to strive for truth not man created male chauvanist fake religion judeo-christianity/islam.
Name: ha ha ha ....
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 00:51:20 -0700
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Let them Moslem cannibalize each other. I'd be very happy to hear civil war between them Moslem. Not that I like to see wars, but for Moslem, it is the best way to reduce them. After all, when they died in the war, they will enter the brothel in jannat with 72 houris to have sex with. Only one thing bothered me, which Moslem sect will enter their brothel? All of them, or certain sect only? I wish them peace, after they fought each other in this world, they can have sex together in their paradise. Bon appetite!!! ha ha ha ....
Name: man evolved by nature from 1 celled organisms and proof is in our dna...creation is wrong evolution by nature is truth
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 03:10:52 -0700
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if allah created 1 man-woman from mud/dirt then how come so many races of people...also,does allow allow bro-sis fuking ? if creationism is to be believed then it implies that so called adm-eve had sex and got kids who were bro-sis and then they fuked and got kids...and so on...it means allah allow sex between bro-sis.allah allow incest,this type of fake deity is non existant.
Name: Re: man evoled by nature ...
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 03:17:40 -0700
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There are even more inconsistencies here. According to surah 96 which was the historically first surah revealed by Muhammad, humans are made from clot! This is not only wrong, it is also an insult. Why should Allah tell people teach wrong things and even insult his own creatures? That´s why I thionk that Islam is lying from the very first day!
Name: Ali Didi (Maldives)
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 05:04:15 -0700
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At last some good news. Hope the demise of Islam comes soon, because unless it does, the civillized world will be destroyed within the next few decades
Name: JD
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 05:28:32 -0700
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Minor nit here right at the beginning. The duration in time between 632AD and 2008AD is some 1366 years. 1400 is a safer round off of the value than 1500. PP That aside I've been noting to friends that if the Mohammedans win, Allah prohibit, and the entire world becomes "Muslim", the fighting logically cannot end. There is no central authority setup in the Qur'an for what is the precisely correct Islam and how to adjudicate this detail. Hence, the fighting cannot stop until no two people on the face of the planet can face each other. Their views will inevitably be off, even if by a logical eyelash width. Thus each is bound to consider the other as an apostate who must be killed. PP Islam is the prescription for the destruction of the human race.
Name:
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 07:26:30 -0700
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I aint no saint. I agree that all faiths preach that we should lead a righteous lifeand most of the followers do not lead righteous lives. Before we start to criticize others, shouldn’t we correct our faults first. I wish we could take note of William Shakespeare who said the world is a stage and each must play its part. If we consider the world as a stage are we going to complete our life by killing others or living peacefully? Who can dare to say that this world is mine or belongs to my grand pa or his descendants? We have to learn to live with each other and trust, share and help in order to go on with life not destroy life. The biggest draw back are most judiciaries are biased against minorities, as minority sentiments are not considered as they are mostly treated as animals all over the world. So is it wrong in name of democracy when they start to protest in the name of human rights in a peaceful manner and later they be crushed by brutal force just for the sake of there rights. Where’s the justice to them?. All you people love,to be informed that people are killing and dying. Shouldn’t we get together by appointing very learned people and draft something that is with common sense so that Multi nationals and Business Tycoons are not able to influence the political system where they only benefit so that we can ask our politicians to lead us for a better road ahead. We should not let the big or Small Arms manufacturers to market there devastating weapons for the destruction of our people. Instead develops things that will t eradicate human suffering. Anyone to support this?
Name: Liberate Bangladesh from Islam!
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 10:06:23 -0700
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An excellent article, we wish you well and hope that in the near future Bangladesh will be liberated from Islam. The most peaceful way is for Muslims to abandon Islam. Probably they need help from non-Muslims to kill all the Islamic religious teachers
Name: Saeed
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 14:13:52 -0700
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Wanted to share this marvelous occasion with every one here at Islam watch, a Hindu family living in Harlesden [London] have embraced Islam, from grandfather to their children, in total 23 people altogather. Now the whole family do not want any publicity, for this purpose i have not mentioned any names, two member of the family have not joined them ,they say they are not ready to commit themselves. I would like to take the opportunity to welcome them .
Name: Ali Khalaf
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 14:30:44 -0700
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Very interesting view point. However west must work towards exposing truth about Mohammed and islam to muslims as well as non muslims.
Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 14:42:49 -0700
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The ISLAMIC JIHADIST ZAKIR NAIK from INDIA always cites that humans are made from clot of blood . A blood clot once formed is lifeless - dead substance and will decay with time - putrify. So Mo_HAM_MAD and ZAKIR NAIK do not know what they are talking - absolutely ludicrous . So ZAKIR - you are making yourself a stupid and foolish. This proves - that ALLA/MO / ZAKIR are fakes,falsehoods .
Name:
Date: Thursday July 17, 2008
Time: 19:56:27 -0700
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People living like aint got no mamas I think the whole worlds addicted to the drama Only attracted to the things that bring you trauma Overseas yeah we tryin to stop terrorism But we still got terrorists here livin In the USA the big CIA the Bloodz and the Crips and the KKK But if you only have love for your own race Then you only leave space to discriminate And to discriminate only generates hate And if you hatin you're bound to get irate Yeah madness is what you demonstrate And that's exactly how anger works and operates You gotta have love just to set it straight Take control of your mind and meditate Let your soul gravitate to the love y'all People killing people dying Children hurtin you hear them crying Can you practice what you preach Would you turn the other cheek? God help us Send some guidance from above Cause people got me got me questioning Where is the love. It just ain't the same all ways have changed New days are strange is the world the insane? If love and peace so strong Why are there pieces of love that don't belong Nations dropping bombs Chemical gases filling lungs of little ones With ongoing suffering As the youth die young So ask yourself is the loving really strong? So I can ask myself really what is going wrong With this world that we living in People keep on giving in Makin wrong decisions Only visions of them livin and Not respecting each other Deny thy brother The wars' going on but the reasons' undercover The truth is kept secret Swept under the rug If you never know truth Then you never know love Where's the love y'all People killing people dying Children hurtin you hear them crying Can practice what you preach Would you turn the other cheek? Lord help us Send some guidance from above Cause people got me got me questioning I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder As I'm getting older y'all people get colder Most of us only care about money makin Selfishness got us followin the wrong direction Wrong information always shown by the media Negative images is the main criteria Infecting their young minds faster than bacteria Kids wanna act like what the see in the cinema Whatever happened to the values of humanity Whatever happened to the fairness and equality Instead of spreading love, we're spreading anomosity Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity That's the reason why sometimes I'm feeling down & under It's no wonder why sometimes I'm feeling under I gotta keep my faith alive, until love is found People killing people dying Children hurtin you hear them crying Can you practice what you preach Would you turn the other cheek? Ooh My Lord help us Send some guidance from above Cause people got me got me questioning Where is the love?
Name: surj
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 10:19:30 -0700
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It is true that we the non muslims, with the likes of great people like Abul Kasem, Ali Sina of FFI and many others knowledgeable people MUST expose Islam of it's evil doing. And we must make muslims feel ashamed of their religion, but again they are some times so brainwashed that they have reached the point of no return. I urge you all to make other (non muslims)aware about these websites. I do read quran and I can tell you it is evil book.
Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 14:39:12 -0700
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To SAEED : The moslem imposter - you just conjured up a story of some Hindu family to ISLAM . This is really an insult to humanity,to human intelligence, to HINDUS and to the good and nobility everywhere . I know this story is false ,no doubt . Is there such crooks or evil people who wants to convert to the most monstrous ,cruel,evil,hatefilled,bloodthirsty,bigoted,fascist ISLAM ? according to you it is possible as you yourself is a hard boiled ISLAMIC jihadist !!!!!!!!!!! a liar,a killer, a thug , a hateful and follower of pedo,rapist,slave perpetrator MO !!!!!!!! what do you have SAEED, except extreme cruelty,slavery,wife beating,terror, hate of nonmoslems,killing nonmoslems ? Are you from the terror gang of ZAKIR NAIK ? We are here to expose you and the devil satans you and ZAKIR NAIK are !!!!
Name: to Surj from dady Akhter
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 14:44:47 -0700
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Sunshine stop dreaming ,for over 5 years this and other crappy websites have cultists like you who have nothing to offer yourself and instead you dummies are depending on a few stupid greedy ex Muslims to help you ,how weak and inferior, gutless , coward you Hindu cultists you are.Look who is reading ,commenting, and writing here,mostly you pale face, daal,eating,short in hight,and as always lacking in sex Hindu cultist, where as we may loose 6 but alhamdolilla always gain 12, i hope you read the news about 23 Hindus coming to Islam from one family, Allahoakbar, Islam Zinda bad.
Name: could the current civilization ever imagine a world without Islam?
Date: Sunday July 20, 2008
Time: 01:34:21 -0700
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I can, and a beatiful world it is.
Name: To Judeo-Christianity haters
Date: Sunday July 20, 2008
Time: 01:52:33 -0700
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I agree the Abrahamic religions should be done away with, but Jesus teachings should remain. He marks a departure from the usual dogmatism of Judaism, OT and Islam. Jesus was a true teacher and it would be a shame to throw him out along with the rest.
Name: Lamplighter Reply to: Judeo-Christianity haters
Date: Sunday July 20, 2008
Time: 12:25:21 -0700
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You wrote "I agree the Abrahamic religions should be done away with, but Jesus teachings should remain. He marks a departure from the usual dogmatism of Judaism, OT and Islam. Jesus was a true teacher and it would be a shame to throw him out along with the rest." My Comment- I agreest 100% with your statement- - Jesus was a remarkable departure from everything in the Old testament.Agreed. Like night and day. Literally a bright new star on the horizon.But he confirmed and added to the ten commandments when he said the greatest commandment of all ....love thy neighbor as thyself. Muslims or anyone who are searching for an alternative need to read the Sermon on the Mount-and will find guidance and true peace in his life and teachings.I know I do.It is a shame that Mohammed who came after Jesus resorted to a form of nuevo Judaism only worse - endorsing violence and hate (eg. do not be friends with christians and jews- persecution is worse than slaughter -compare with Jesus' turn the other cheek-which is self restraint of the highest order;blessed are they when they persecute you;-or shake the dust of your feet -as opposed to going back to a town where your message was not well received to kill, slaughter etc) Muslims will not change their beliefs unless they see a better moral compass -and what Jesus said, what he did in his life time is more than enough for anyone seeking guidance and true peace.Thats my opinion after reading the entire Koran-the old and new testaments, philosohhies of all types and other religeous works.
Name:
Date: Sunday July 20, 2008
Time: 19:39:30 -0700
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Islam takes an uncompromising stand in prohibiting the following 1 Consuming or dealing with Alcohol 2 Engaging or supporting gambling 3 Consuming or dealing with drugs (such as heroin etc) 4 Consuming or dealing in tobacco 5 Engaging or supporting interest 6 Construction and dealing with mass weapons of destruction. 7 Rape And violence of women and children. But the Western media are so successful in silencing this stand in prohibiting the above, why?. Because the Muslim world are governed by Puppet regimes and are installed by Western states. Then the question arises as to why are the western media not highlighting the Muslim world oppression by western sponsored Puppet regimes is it because of the under the cover of modernization and secular states? Firstly, Who controls the media? The correct question is which Race controls the media? No one seems to even wonder why the puppet regimes dominated by Muslims consume Alcohol, Cigarettes, Interest from banking are widely in circulation, after all Islam does not even sanctioned them. I guess in the name of democracy this allowed. Must not forget, just because most of the western states, the religion and government are supposed to be apart. Although in Islamic states they go hand in hand. When the puppet governments bow down to the western preasure, the locals start to protest. Obviously anyone then organizing a protest in these countries are crushed with an iron fist. Most of the organizers are put and tortured in prison. Then the 2nd phase begins, Once the leader is in jail some unknown individual fights the government with violence unislamicly. The media make a big cry blaming them as terrorist and the world is enlightened that most Muslims are terrorist When so many anti government insurgencies take place, both the Governments and insurgents are in confrontation and the so called permanent representatives in the UN are able to sell their arms and ammunition to the Insurgents and there puppet governments while there own countries prosper in arms sale. How do terrorist get sophisticated weapons??
Name:
Date: Tuesday July 22, 2008
Time: 00:05:14 -0700
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According to Kasem, the definition of oppression to any Islamist are Kashmir, Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Bosnia…and so on. Kasem wants all historians to Think carefully, then again how true are his statements? Kasems portrays of so called blood-soaked history of Islam, then one could not help wonder why he does not highlight the oppression committed by the West to its own citizens? He has forgotten that, at the height of European colonial expansion in the 19th century, most of the Islamic world was under colonial rule with the exception of a few regions such as the heart of the Ottoman empire. But even these areas were under foreign influence or, under constant threat. After the First World War with the breakup of the Ottoman empire, a number of Arab states such as Iraq became independent, others like Jordan were created as a new entity and yet others like Palestine, Syria and Lebanon were either mandated or turned into French colonies. As for Arabia, it was at this time that Saudi Arabia became finally consolidated. As for other parts of the Islamic world, Egypt which had been ruled by the descendents of Muhammad Ali since the l9th century became more independent as a result of the fall of the Ottomans, Turkey was turned into a secular republic by Ataturk, and the Pahlavi dynasty began a new chapter in Persia where its name reverted to its eastern traditional form of Iran. But most of the rest of the Islamic world remained under colonial rule. In the current day, most Islamic states are now ruled by puppets and figureheads and encouraged by the West. Currently, there is no country on Earth where Islam rules its people completely He also says the unprovoked, savage invasions by the Bedouin Arabs and that it was Islam that started this oppression. He is unaware that it was the Bedouin tribes that tried to destroy Islam and its Prophet. He has forgotten why the the Prophet of Islam migrated to medina. He also mentions that these Islamists audaciously believe that Islam is the only religion into which each and every person on this planet must be subjected to by hook or by crook. The Quran [2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered. Anyone can rule a country. I wish Kasem could quote from where in the Quran or The Sunna its mentioned that the present world must be ruled by a Caliph? Shouldn’t a leader serve his country faithfully, not Vandalize and steal from it. Encourage market economy. Most of us have common sense, Havent we wondered what a countries biggest expenditure is??? How do organizations market there products? Then how do Arms manufactures market there arms? The only way is to create tensions and destabilize the world in order to profit by war. Therefore any who corrupts the land should be punished. He who leads a peaceful life obeying the true teachings of his lord will earn a better hereafter. Therefore, he has not mentioned the correct phrase, which is the Zionist backed Western mayhem in the current world in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine These so called Islamist terrorists and the suicide bombers are trained by these Zionist in order to wipe out Islam and the Palastinian state.. In theory, who is Alqaidas biggest enemy?? Cant we remember the western democratic governments who opposed the war in Iraq? Are we blind to see that these very democratic countries are now been ruled by puppets backed by the Zionist. In order to divulge attention to the world the Zionist are instigating War with the Iranians, in order to weaken Iran’s military capabilities, Even though Iran has all the right to conduct nuclear testing for its defenses. Kasem is not aware whether muslim states are invading countries to get fuel! Kasem is not aware whether muslim states are invading and occupying some ones country in pretext of extracting Heroin! Kasem is not aware whether muslim states are invaded like Hitler did killed jews in the gas chambers! What about the Imperialist American project that we are living today? Are the Iraqis Occupying the US? NO THAT Would be bad, but what the hell is the US forces doing in Iraq? Can't you see that the issue is not Islam or Christianity or any other religion? What about the Iraqi and Afghan innocent lives being taken in the dozens everyday as a result of the American occupation! Kasem wake up!
Name: Tracking down references
Date: Friday July 25, 2008
Time: 06:10:58 -0700
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When some of the references are given I try and look them up, but usually I cannot find them. For example: ** “Another hadis (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 40.4747, Sahih Bukhari, 4.55.577) asks to murder those Muslims who are insincere in their faith. This hadis even tells that Allah loves the Muslims who kill those insincere Muslims.” ** I believe I have found the reference on University of South California USC-MSA Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 577. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/061.sbt.html#006.061.577 Is there are reason why the verse number is not 4.55.577? Is it possible to link to hadith sources as it would help put into context the Islamic teaching?
Name: Cocko Jumor
Date: Tuesday July 29, 2008
Time: 07:57:33 -0700
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In an everyday life, the atrocities committed by the Israelis in the occupied teritoteries only makes all fellow supporters of Israel’s vocal down. Unarmed demonstrators who protest for only their human rights are brutally put down by the well respected Israeli defense force. What are the US tax payers doing regarding these crimes commited by the Israelis, why aren’t the White House spokesman not condemning these grave incidents in the media? Even harassing of international journalist who are highlight to the world these crimes commited by the state of Israel which itself a violation of international Law. Does Israel care? “God told ancient Israel that its people were to serve as a good example to other nations”. Only preaching not practicing that the supporters of Israel who are turning a blind eye to these atrocities, instead these supporters of Israel highlights only terrorism and out of this so called terrorism, the main headlines are on “Islamic terrorism”. As if no other terrorist exist in this world today. Look what’s happening to India and Turkey. Bombs going out once again. Without any investigation the media bluntly points it to Islamic terrorism. So many investigative journalists have pointed the blame on Israel. So many posts have mentioned how Israel clings on to the Middle East at the expense of innocent lives lost in both sides of the conflict. Yah, Blame it on terrorist, but don’t drag it on Islam. Were the IRA a Christian Organization, at the time of their height of terror? What about the oldest terrorist organization in Europe, in Spain. Are they ETA? What are the religion/s that the IRA or the ETA follow? Why not bring their religion in to the picture, or are they freedom fighters??? Have the world not realized that the most deadly terror organization in this Millennium is based in Asia, in a Tiny country named Sri Lanka, they are more deadly than Al Qaeda? They have silenced there opponents, killed and maimed their own people aswell as recruited child soldiers. They are the LTTE, who were initially trained by RAW and later sophisticated training by MOSAD. Do the media give the LTTE much publicity? Then again, Why should the media give them publicity when they do not belong to any Islamist organization? Then, are the LTTE, a terrorist organisation or are they freedom fighters? My point is, the media always offends Muslims by branding them as Terrorist and you see consequence of a wide spread violence which the media thrives. Couple of weeks ago bomb explosions were in Iraq and in Afghanistan and now it has spread in India,Turkey, and Iraq once more,when civilians are brutally murdered on a daily basis it’s blamed on Islam rather than these so called unknown terrorist organization who do not even exist but are mainly sponsored and named by the Zionist. Why are the media blind in highlighting the sponsors of these terrorist? Why are the media blind in highlighting who arms them? Why the media are blind in highlighting how do terrorist procure weapons? Why are the media blind in highlighting who sustains them? It is very difficult for people to understand the cunning ways of this so called Zionist state, whose founding fathers were all terrorist and who all had contributed in its own ways in spilling blood. IN THAT CASE WHY IS THE WORLD IGNORING THIS? That’s because Zionist control the media. Its time the world makes a stop of this carnage by telling Israel to stop sponsoring terrorism!! And to make plain to ISRAEL that they are THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN THIS WORLD!! Zionist want to control the entire world now. They ruled the world through proxy before!
Name: lw1
Date: Thursday July 31, 2008
Time: 12:27:59 -0700
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If the story about 23 Hindus converting to Islam is true, that shows that Hindu God is merciful and hasn't directed his followers to issue a Fatwa to kill them.The Hindu God does not force anyone to convert.When there is trouble in muslm countries many muslims prefer to go to Christian countries and also to India.Give free choice to those who go to muslim countries and many would prefer non-muslim countries. There is conversion both ways - the only difference is that muslims who convert are always feeling that there will be revenge attack.
Name: IMAN NAJI
Date: Tuesday August 12, 2008
Time: 09:56:33 -0700
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Name: judaism is a poison and its fruit christianity/islam is also poison NOT ACCORDING TO YOUR HOLY QURAN! READ YOUR QURAN! IT SAYS ALLAH GAVE THE JEWS THE LAND AND THEY SHOULD LIVE SECURELY!IT'S WRITTEN IN YOUR OWN QURAN!!! OOPS.... AL-QUIDA,HEZBOLLAH,TALIBAN,AND ALL THE OTHERS, NO VIRGINS FOR YOU,IN HELL!!!!!!!!! ONLY FIRE UNDER YOUR EGGS! Reference: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/17.htm "The Holy Quran" As written about Israel and her security??? Reference: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/17.htm (Chapter 17) Surah 17. Isra', The Night Journey, Children Of Israel 104. And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd. 105. We sent down the (Qur'an) in Truth, and in Truth has it descended: and We sent thee but to give Glad Tidings and to warn (sinners). 106. (It is) a Qur'an which We have divided (into parts from time to time), in order that thou mightest recite it to men at intervals: We have revealed it by stages. 107. Say: "Whether ye believe in it or not, it is true that those who were given knowledge beforehand, when it is recited to them, fall down on their faces in humble prostration, 108. "And they say: 'Glory to our Lord! Truly has the promise of our Lord been fulfilled!'" 109. They fall down on their faces in tears, and it increases their (earnest) humility. 110. Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between." IMAN NAJI MECCA, SA.