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Did Muhammad Respect the Holiness of the Ka'ba?

This article discusses the story of the killing of Ibn Khatal, an apostate of Islam, when the “prophet of peace” entered the Mecca victoriously.

What would you think about one of the holiest men of our time if he committed a bloody murder in the holiest of temples? What would you think of mother Teresa if, before she died, killed a poor man right in her main headquarter in India? What would you think if one of the holiest and wisest of Swamis and Gurus commits a murder in his own home? What would you think of the Pope if he committed a murder in his own Cathedral in Rome? And, what if the crime was for no good reason at all. Let us say that one of the bishops in Rome left the faith and became an atheist. Is that a good reason for the Pope to order one of his followers to kill the apostate bishop even if he was holding to the curtains where the pictures of Jesus and Mary are displayed in their utmost light? I am sure that any reader capable of doing some thinking will say that the Pope is never justified in committing such a crime. Good answer.

Now, let us go to the prophet of Islam (PBUH) and see what he did when he entered Mecca, victorious, with his three thousand strong men. I present the reader a collection of hadiths, and some quotes, about Ibn Khatal. The hadiths and quotes are all from very reliable Islamic sources. So, there is no doubt that the story of Ibn Khatal did in fact happen in a , pretty much, sequence of events as we will see.

Who was Ibn Khatal?

He was a Muslim at one time, then apostasised. Please note that the apostle of Allah (PBUH) ordered him killed because of his apostasy, not because he (Ibn Khatal) killed a freed slave working for him. Such slaves were not considered as equals to free people..

Also, note that he had two singing girls who sang satire about the prophet (now that would have been really fun to hear!!).

"Another [to be killed] was Abdullah Khatal of B. Taym b. Ghalib. He had become a Muslim and the apostle sent him to collect the poor tax in company with one of the Ansar. He had with him a freed slave who served him. (He was Muslim). When they halted he ordered the latter to kill a goat for him and prepare some food, and went to sleep. When he woke up the man had done nothing, so he attacked and killed him and apostatized. He had two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle, so he ordered that they should be killed with him." (the Sirat, p. 550)

The Prophet ordered Ibn Khatal killed

Tabaqat Ibn Sa'ad - Vol 2. - p.168

"The apostle of Allah entered through Adhakhir, [into Mecca], and prohibited fighting. He ordered six men and four women to be killed, they were (1) Ikrimah Ibn Abi Jahl, (2) Habbar Ibn al-Aswad, (3) Abd Allah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh, (4) Miqyas Ibn Sababah al-Laythi, (5) al-Huwayrith Ibn Nuqaydh, (6) Abd Abbah Ibn Hilal Ibn Khatal al-Adrami, (7) Hind Bint Utbah, (8) Sarah, the mawlat (enfranchised girl) of Amr Ibn Hashim, (9) Fartana and (10) Qaribah. ("Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" by Ibn Sa'd, Vol. 2, p.168)

How was Ibn Khatal to be killed?

Also on pages 172 and 173 in Ibn Sa'd's Tabaqat:

"The apostle of Allah entered Makkah in the year of victory and on his head there was a helmet. Then he removed it. Ma'n and Musa Ibn Dawud said in their version: A person came to him and said, "O apostle of Allah! Ibn Khatal is holding fast the curtains of al-Kabah. Thereupon the apostle of Allah said: "Kill him."

"....kill him wherever you find him"

Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 29, Number 72:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle entered Mecca in the year of its Conquest wearing an Arabian helmet on his head and when the Prophet took it off, a person came and said, "Ibn Khatal is holding the covering of the Ka'ba (taking refuge in the Ka'ba)." The Prophet said, "Kill him."

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 582:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

On the day of the Conquest, the Prophet entered Mecca, wearing a helmet on his head. When he took it off, a man came and said, "Ibn Khatal is clinging to the curtain of the Ka'ba." The Prophet said, "Kill him." (Malik a sub-narrator said, "On that day the Prophet was not in a state of Ihram as it appeared to us, and Allah knows better.")

Muslim, Book 007, Number 3145:

Anas b. Malik (Allah be pleased with them) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) entered Mecca in the Year of Victory with a helmet on his head; and when he took it off, a man came to him and said: Ibn Khatal is hanging on to the curtains of the Ka'ba, whereupon he said: Kill him. Malik (one of the narrators) attested this statement having been made.

Muwatta' Malik, Book 20, Number 20.76.256:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Anas ibn Malik that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, entered Makka, in the Year of Victory, wearing a helmet, and when he took it off a man came to him and said, "Messenger of Allah, Ibn Khatal is clinging to the covers of the Kaba,'' and the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Kill him."

Malik commented, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was not in ihram at the time, and Allah knows best."

The Sirat, p. 550:

"Another [to be killed] was Abdullah Khatal of B. Taym b. Ghalib. He had become a Muslim and the apostle sent him to collect the poor tax in company with one of the Ansar. He had with him a freed slave who served him. (He was Muslim). When they halted he ordered the latter to kill a goat for him and prepare some food, and went to sleep. When he woke up the man had done nothing, so he attacked and killed him and apostatized. He had two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle, so he ordered that they should be killed with him."

So, it seems that the holy prophet of Islam ordered the killing of an apostate. This apostate went to the holiest of places in the holiest place in Mecca at the time. This action did not save him. Muhammad was ruthless, and did not respect the presencee of this man in the Ka'ba. I wonder if Muslim apologetics even think of “What Ifs”. What if Muhammad had pardoned him? Isn't that a better course of action. After all the man was harmless. He probably was in the entertainment business along with his two singing girls. Let us move to the details of his death.

How did Ibn Khatal die?

"Verily the apostle of Alah ordered (his followers) on the day of the Victory to kill Ibn Abi Sarh, Fartana Ibn al-Zibr'ra and Ibn Khatal. Abu Barzah came and saw him (Ibn Khatal) holding fast the curtains of al-Kabah. He (Abu Barzah) ripped open his belly.” [Tabaqat Ibn Sa'd, p.174]

What happened to the two slave girls?

"As for Ibn Khatal's two singing girls, one was killed and the other ran away until the apostle, asked for immunity, gave it to her." (Sirat, p.551)

Did Muhammad make a wise decision regarding Ibn Khatal and his two slave girls?

No, he did not. He could have easily forgiven him and let the incidents pass by. Ibn Khatal was not an important person for Muhammad to worry about. He was in the entertainment business along with the two singing girls. The same applies to the killing of one of the girls. Forgiveness is a virtue that Muhammad died thinking it spelled as “REVENGE”.

And the answer to the title of this article is: No, Muhammad had no respect for the holy. He demonstrated that in his Nakhla raid when he attacked a Meccan commercial caravan during the sacred month. He demonstrated that by violating, again and again, his own signed treaties before conquering Mecca. And, yet again, proved this claim by ordering the killing of a man who was holding to the curtains of the most holy in Mecca; the Ka'ba. Is this a man worthy of being called a prophet of the most High?


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Name: Non-Delutionist
Date: Sunday March 01, 2009
Time: 21:49:28 -0500

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What do expect of the Leader of the Desert Pirate? The first Islamic Mafia Don.


Name: Wagamama
Date: Sunday March 01, 2009
Time: 21:56:11 -0500

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What sort of cruel devil Muhammad was! No wonder Muslims are the clones of Muhammad in all aspects


Name: Mo was worse than demon which even does not harm
Date: Sunday March 01, 2009
Time: 23:50:41 -0500

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Mo was worse than demon.How can muslims beileve he was prophet of god.Firat they should know the definition og god and holy qualities of good humans.THey are like desert dwellers who always think palm trees are the greatest trees in the world as they have never seen better trees which are ouitside desert.


Name: YUCK...
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 00:43:40 -0500

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THIS IS GETTING WORST AND WORST


Name: Reason
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 01:40:25 -0500

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Why is it that every time they invoke the the name of the prophet they say peace be upon him (PBUH)? Because he was never peaceful when he lived. Never allowed others to live peacefully. In fact Islam in short is DO NOT LIVE AND DON'T LET LIVE. SIMPLY KILL AND THEN HOPE TO LIVE IN IMAGINARY HEAVEN.


Name: Excesayces
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 04:02:53 -0500

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Oh muslim retards Compare muhammed the hyena with buddha krishna mother teresa jesus rama krishna paramsha ramana maharishi etc. You will understand the difference between evil and good. Sorry hyena i compared you with thug like muhammed.oh hyena! you kill when you are hungry but muhammed ?


Name: Shafee al-Zindig
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 05:27:02 -0500

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Once again we have here another sad instance when Muhammad flaunted every rule of civilized conduct in order to advance his cult. Nothing was sacred to him - whether sacred months or sacred places. He is not a mercy to mankind but a universal curse that causes untold misery.


Name: The muzzies even now repeating the same things in mosque.
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 05:28:18 -0500

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Inside mosques weapons are being accumulated amidst " Allahu akbar". The mullahs recite the killings verses evry friday and find the kufrs as the reasons for all their mischiefs. In Pakistan madrassas the history is taught only after muhammad. The kufr history is rot and not to be imitated. Momad is the ideal person for them to replicate with mass murders, mass marriages and all satanic verses. I am waiting for the countdown Islam. When will the countdown start?


Name: Philip Saenz
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 06:25:29 -0500

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Did Muhammad respect anything? If he did, please let me know. I know he didn't respect little girls. Muhammad loved little girls so much so that he raped Aisha when the child was only was only eight years nine months old.


Name: balam
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 09:57:31 -0500

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Please do not be harsh on Mohammad.He is my kind of man.He makes me feel better.He was quite holey.He went for any hole,especially tighter the better like Ayeshas.At nine years of age,she was probably a virgin and the prophet enjoyed the virgin sex so much that he promised his followers 72 virgins in Islamic Paradise.Could any other prophet promise and arrange all that?.Mohammad was like piranha killer fish .It was in his nature to kill.He was a holy killer.


Name: duh_swami
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 10:36:54 -0500

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Abd Allah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh...I often get these names mixed up, but was it not this Sa'd, the scribe who told on Mohammad for altering one of Allah's transmissions...If so, he had a personal gripe to settle...


Name: Vp
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 11:59:46 -0500

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This site and topic is about the perveted Islam and the peodphile bastard prophet Mohammad. The Mohammdans here cannot defend Islam because everything here about Islam and Mohammad that is said is true. Instead they are on their usual spreading of cowardly lies about Hindus and Christians and Buddhists and Sikhs and Jains. LOL the lovers of child molester piss be upon him for eternity Mohammad. The dumb and stupid Mohammedans.


Name: EXCESAYCES
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 13:08:48 -0500

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TO THE MUSLIM PERVERT ABOVE. what you are talkin is mythology. mythology need not to be true. what islam watch talking about is true life story of devil called muhammed. hindus,others are not problems for the world now. it is islam. so dont worry about hindus worry about islam. where ever this ,muslim pigs goes there is a problem.


Name: duh_swami
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 13:24:31 -0500

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Comments Notes: Keep comments short. Long drawn out off topic subjects are more than just long windedness. They are bandwidth theft designed to cost the host more money. Mr Khan would be completely justified deleting such posts.


Name: To: Poor and sex-hungry Hindutva EXCESAYCES!
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 15:02:50 -0500

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Muslims are doing fine. Leave them alone. Oil your own machine, sex-hungry hindutva pervert!


Name: G.Ryan
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 15:05:53 -0500

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i would ask the people who run this site to please stop christian and hindu fanatics from hi-jacking this site any longer!anyone who thinks their faith and way of life is superior to any other,is no better than the islamic faith that we are meant to be discussing here!let them get their own site and leave us to talk about islam and it's dangers.


Name: Kaaba in Iran
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 16:02:18 -0500

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There had been and still are Kaabas in Iran built by Zoroastrians long before the Kaaba in Mecca. The Kaaba in Mecca has nothing to do with any Abraham. It is all fake.


Name: Vp
Date: Monday March 02, 2009
Time: 19:35:12 -0500

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I agree with G Ryan the comment section on Islam Watch needs to be moderated. As per the comments notes, I think the site administrators may have to begin a full time moderation of the comments. There seems to be very many irrelevant comments that are completely off topic and beyond the purpose of this site.


Name: Q andA for Islamic Perverts
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2009
Time: 07:20:51 -0500

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It would be interesting if the writer for questions to Hindus, who I guess, is no other than Zakir Naik, Asks the same questions aboutAllah/Mohammad, Quran and Hadiths. The words Vile and Evil use the same letters which I would use for ISLAM/MUSLIMS, but Islam is more Violent than Hinduism


Name: G.Ryan
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2009
Time: 16:05:41 -0500

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off subject, but thanks for the support VP. it's important that we stay on track, as i say ,i'm not against hindu's or christians but we have more pressing concerns.put your differences aside and stick together against islam. not the induvidual but the cult.if we stick together we can win over these people but not if we are as bad as them!


Name: Truth Seeker
Date: Friday March 06, 2009
Time: 13:44:28 -0500

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The Ka'aba is located within the precinct of the Sacred Mosque of Mecca. Allah has said in the Quran that whoever entered the grounds of the Secret Mosque will be safe from any danger. Therefore, by ordering the killing of the man and the slave-girls, Muhammad clearly violated the Quran and Allah's promise to His creations. Muhammad does not deserve any respect of the Muslims, nor he should be treated as a prophet or apostle of Allah. The sooner the Muslims know it the better it would he for them.


Name: erm your not worth it
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2009
Time: 22:32:28 -0500

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a sad lowlife who persues islam like crazy and critisizes it, if islam is the way it is then why are more people entering islam rather than leaving it this idiot who made this site is FOCUSING MAINLY ON TRADITIONS of countries where the tradition is to blame not islam, and the misinterpretations lol my god you really are a plonka, I FEEL SORRY FOR THIS SINO GEEZER


 
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