A glimpse into the life of non-Muslims under Islamic oppression
16 Apr, 2008
It's not a show but reality—See what Islam Has in store for you
- Are muslims residing in the West, different from their co-religionists and relatives in their native countries?
This report adds more incite to previous analysis, here, and here, about the threats and confrontation resulting from the islamic governments strategy of mosques-building in the West. Nazism was defeated in Germany, Communism was defeated, the Berlin wall was brought down, and east and west Europe found peace. Now we are confronted and threatened by "the islamic wall," that divided the world into #1 masters, and #2 slaves being erected everywhere around us. The most evil legacy of a global murderous cult, founded by the biggest thug, self proclaimed prophet. No criminal organization in history popularized the word "killing" globally, to the point of making it a universal daily cultural banality, except muslims, for which the word "killing" is by itself the resume of their culture and history.
Give any first grader muslim child in any islamic country just two words, "Death for...," and ask him to fill the dots with all what he learned. he will fill the whole page.
The most terrifying thing in Geert Wilders koran movie, was not
911, London, Madrid, or the beheadings, but the three year old girl
filled with hate towards the Jews, the sons of apes and pigs.
Certainely she would've said the same think about the Christian
kafirs, since that's what she hears all day long, whether at school
or from the mosque's loudspeakers. Let me repeat it, this is the
most terrifying thing in the whole movie. And for those who don't
know, this girl is the daughter of a known Egyptian actor (not a
Hamas jihadist), Mohamed El Arabi. It can't get more moderate
mainstream than this.
In this report you'll see how in islamic majority countries, the majority of muslims (which by the way includes the moderate mainstream) feel no mea culpa to intimidate, oppress, persecute, humiliate, and kill Christians (who are the native people of the country). That includes looting their homes, and businesses, destroying their churches and properties, kidnaping and raping their baby girls and women. To emulate and keep up with their thug prophet tradition, that was, and still is the only motivation to attack people under the beard of a "religion."
Now think of this, all muslim immigrants in the West are the products of this culture, or rather this criminal culture, which by comparison makes a bacteria culture more appealing and safer.
In other words, these muslims that came to the West from islamic majority countries were also part, whether active or passive, of the mainstream majority oppressors, intimidators, persecutors, destroyers, looters, rapists, and killers. It's no coincidence that all sorts of criminality starting by rape, increases in the West wherever there is muslims concentrations. The high percentage of muslims in western jails, in comparison to their total population percentage speaks for itself.
The majority of these muslims that came to West, are, not only filled with the same thuggish and criminal teaching which is the legacy of their thug prophet that was sent " Mercy to the Worlds," but actually proud of it and boast about it.
The proofs are very easy to demonstrate:
Ask every muslim you meet, what he thinks of koran 9:29, which states that non muslims should convert, pay the jeziah and be humiliated, or be killed, and let us know the percentage of muslims that disapprove it. If he gives you the classic 3:28 deception of, "this verse was for war time" answer, ask him, where he sees the talk of war in the verse. And when he tells you the jeziah was a tax, like in any country, ask him if he is humiliated, and hit on the back head by the IRS when he pays his taxes in America or in any western country. But even when he acts muslim, as usual, like a soap bubble hard to catch, you got your proof of his pride, and the thuggish teaching embedded in him. He would even be making a silent prayer while talking to you, asking allah for the day to come when he can apply that verse on you.
Another proof, All these muslims in the West that are shouting, jumping up and down, screaming and defending the rights of "Their" muslim Palestinian brothers, that are supposedly being oppressed by the Israelis. Did you ever hear them addressing their relatives, brothers and sisters in the islamic countries to stop their criminal behavior towards the native Christian citizens, and to treat them equally? Even their activism on behalf of "Their" Palestinian brothers, exclude the Christian Palestinians that are being ethnically cleansed by none other than the muslim Palestinians, which resulted in an exodus of the Christian Palestinians to the West.
Did you hear muslims in the West being outraged when their palestinian brothers bombed churches, the YMCA, and the Christian library in Gaza and killing the Christians in charge? Were muslims in the West outraged by the bombing of churches, killing of bishops and priests in Iraq? Did we ever hear Egyptian muslims in the West outrage for the atrocities committed by their Egyptian relatives to the Christians of Egypt? Did you see muslims in the West being outraged, or ashamed for any criminality caused by "Their" muslim brothers and sisters, period?
I can cite many other proofs, but that's already plenty to demonstrate that muslims in the West, don't have a different mindset than the thuggish mindset of their co-religionists relatives in their countries of origin. Or let's put it this way, muslims in the West that takes pride in the thug that elevated killing, raping, and hate to the level of religion, has themselves demonstrated that no proofs are necessary. Simply put, their pride is in their shame.
In our Arabic Islamic debate forums, which are the biggest forums on Paltalk.com, with an audience capacity of thousands of people, we have the opportunity of debating, non stop, arab muslims from all over the world. The shocking reality is, the biggest majority of the ones residing in the West are the most radical, most threatening, and all the ones that were arrested for terrorism on Paltalk were residing in the West.
The purpose of saying this, and this report, is not meant to make you cry on the fate of the Christians, whether in Egypt, or in every muslims dominated country, but to spare you the same fate.
One last question, but that’s for you to meditate on, and answer
it for yourself after reading the report. Do you think the oppressed
and massacred Christians in muslims dominated countries have the
luxury of accusing their oppressors and murderers of being islamists,
or ask if the moderates mainstream exist, and where are they, or
count on their support to gain equal rights, or even to stop the
stream of daily insults? Again, this is not meant to get you out of
your way for the persecuted Christians, but it's meant to let you
know the real deal islam have in store for you.
My journey through Egypt
Sent by Jesse Petrilla, founder of United American Committee
I have recently returned to the United States from Egypt where I was on a fact-finding mission to see what life is like for non-Muslims who live under Islam. What I saw was a dire situation of oppression and discrimination that many in America and the West have all but ignored. A place with rampant police brutality and corruption, where non-Muslims are second-class citizens at best, who are brutally victimized on a daily basis. All this in a nation which is a popular U.S. tourist spot, and has been the recipient of American aid in excess of $28 billion in the last three decades[1]. I wanted to learn what life would be like if our enemies and their allies got their way. What I saw was an example of the harsh life in store for future American generations in Islamic-dominated regions of the U.S. if we do not work to bring attention to the issue of Islamic oppression now at this critical time in American history.
My journey began on an Egypt Air flight out of JFK. I was a bit surprised, to say the least, when the in-flight video came on prior to departure and instead of the usual safety video, a picture of a mosque flickered on and a deep-toned recorded voice came on reciting Islamic prayers out of the Koran. I've flown on Israeli airline El Al a number of times as well as hundreds of other global and U.S. airline companies, and I have never experienced a Christian prayer or a Jewish prayer on a flight, and could only imagine the reaction of Americans if an airline carrier were to try. Regardless of the policies and logic of other airlines, apparently a Muslim owned airline feels it fit to assume that all its passengers desire to hear a Muslim prayer, regardless of their faith. The safety video followed and my journey had begun; I was on my way to Cairo and Alexandria to get a feeling of what life was like there for non-Muslims.
The first day, I visited old Cairo. Walking through the alleyways, I visited the many ancient churches there. As I rounded a corner I came upon an old synagogue. Excited to find and learn the experiences of Jews who live there, I entered only to be greatly disappointed and utterly disgusted when I saw the synagogue was filled with hijab-clad Muslim women selling trinkets and postcards inside. It's a museum that I can only assume the government uses to show their "tolerance". I overheard the tour guides speaking of how there "were once Jews here," and I was told that there is only one other synagogue in the city. It makes you wonder if someday there will be regions of America with a museum of the last or second to last synagogue or church. Irritatingly, the Egyptian police refuse to allow anyone to take any photos or video at all of the synagogue either inside or out, and they threatened to take my camera if I questioned their rule.
As I continued through the streets, the afternoon call to prayer began to broadcast from a local mosque, then another mosque, then a third, until the deafening sound of thousands of loudspeakers from mosques all over the city pierced through the air with the call of “Allah akbar” followed by Koranic verses. I recalled how in several American cities including Dearborn, Michigan, sound ordinances have begun to be overturned to allow this to occur in America. I made my way to meet with a friend who is an activist for human rights in Egypt. He showed me the Egyptian constitution which in article II states that Sharia (Islamic) law shall be “the principal source of legislation”[2]. This clause goes for everyone in the nation regardless of faith. My friend told me the stories and showed me photos of young Christian girls who had been kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam, and threatened with death, and their families threatened if they ever convert back. After several days in Cairo, my journey continued to Alexandria where I would visit several churches which had been attacked in recent years.
On the train to Alexandria, we passed through rural villages where I noticed vast amounts of hay on the roofs of many village homes; Our guide told us that the livestock sleep in the house with the people at night, Jokingly I asked if the women sleep out in the stable, but I didn’t receive a definitive answer on that one. It was about this time that I realized the majority of the men everywhere I went had a small round bruise on their forehead reminiscent of something out of the book of Revelation. My guide told me that it was from hitting their head on the floor when praying; He also told me that in Egypt specifically, and perhaps elsewhere, some men heat up a metal spoon in a fire and stick it on their forehead to accentuate the bruise, it seems you aren’t cool unless you have the mark. As we stepped off the train in Alexandria, a police officer approached and told my Egyptian Coptic friend that he did not have a license to be my guide, desiring a bribe before he would leave us alone. This had not been the first time in the trip that a cop came up looking for money. It seemed every time I took out my camera, a police officer would show up to tell me I couldn’t take any pictures and would have to pay him a nominal fine. Usually the officer would not be looking for a bribe of more than ten or twenty dollars, and thankfully our guide was able to talk officers out of it the majority of the time. We went to a local hotel where I turned on the television to see the Statue of Liberty in flames; Disgusted, I changed the channel only to see a video clip of a small child crying with her arms in the air, spliced in with images of U.S. soldiers. The video cut to a bleeding boy lying on the ground in obvious anti-American propaganda, yet to the right of the boy you could see a U.S. medic helping the injured child, no doubt hurt by Jihadist terrorists, but you certainly wouldn’t know that from the tone of the video.
Our first stop in Alexandria was the Church of St. George, the site of a brutal attack in 2005 where a Muslim in his early 20s entered as a prayer service was finishing. He shouted "Allah akbar" and stabbed a nun in the chest with a knife. Several days after the stabbing, an angry Muslim mob also attacked the church, brandishing sticks and throwing rocks at the Christians. Numerous cars and Christian-owned businesses in the area were torched, and in the end, three people were dead from the violence, all of it being sparked by unsubstantiated reports about a theatrical production that occurred at the church which was rumored to have offended Islam. I attended a prayer service there, and every 15 seconds over loudspeakers aimed at the church from the mosque next door, the Muslims were yelling at the Christians. “Allah akbar! Allah akbar!” they would yell among other things in an attempt to disrupt the prayer. This was entirely outside of the five daily calls to prayer which come over the same loudspeaker. It was intimidation designed entirely to disrupt Christian prayer, and stopped as soon as everyone left after the service was over. I took a short video of the incident, and posted it on YouTube.
My next stop was the Church of All Saints. When I arrived, I saw a large mosque directly across the street and another on the other block. This was the same case with the previous church I had visited, and my guide explained that as soon as they built the church, mosques went up all around it. Yet today it has become nearly impossible to get a permit in the country to construct a new church anywhere. The Church of All Saints was another site of an attack which occurred in 2006 where a Jihadist entered and began stabbing church-goers while yelling the familiar phrase "Allah akbar". In all, he attacked three churches that day, critically wounding many and killing a 78-year-old man. Yet the government dismissed him as only an isolated mentally ill madman.
I met with many people during my trip, and I learned a great deal about what it is like to live as a minority under Islam. I spoke with a priest who told me how he can see the younger generation of Christians there becoming more and more Islamized. I spoke with a man who told me how his young Christian children are taught in public schools there that they are going to hell if they do not become Muslims. I saw brutal intimidation and oppression, and a life dictated by Islamic law that many Americans don’t realize but are slowly beginning to see. Before we left, our guide showed us his ID card which had a glaring number 2 in the corner. He told me that Christians are required to have that number on their IDs. I asked if Muslims were required to have a number as well. “Yes,” he responded. “Number 1.”
[1]
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/features/egypt
[2]
http://www.egypt.gov.eg/english/laws/Constitution/chp_one/part_one.asp
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Name: NIGARKHAN
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 08:50:19 -0700
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WHY ISLAM IS A DANGEROUS CULT? READ: http://historyofislam.rediffiland.com/blogs/2008/04/13/history-of-islam-1.html
Name: jews in muslim Spain.
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 13:01:32 -0700
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http://www.sephardicstudies.org/islam.html
Name: DAVE
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 13:06:47 -0700
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The Political Framework Of Islam The political system of Islam is based on the three principles of towhid(Oneness of Allah), risala (Prophethood) and Khilifa(Caliphate). Towhidmeans that one Allah alone is the Creator, Sustainer and Master of the universe and of all that exists in it - organic or inorganic. He alone has the right to command or forbid. Worship and obedience are due to Him alone. No aspect of life in all its multifarious forms ¾ our own organs and faculties, the apparent control which we have over physical objects or the objects themselves ¾ has been created or a acquired by us in our own right. They are the bountiful provisions of Allah and have been bestowed on us by Him alone. Hence, it is not for us to decide the aim and purpose of our existence or to set the limits of our worldly authority; nor does anyone else have the right to make these decisions for us. This right rests only with Allah. This principle of the Oneness of Allah makes meaningless the concept of the legal and political sovereignty of human beings. No individual, family, class or race can set themselves above Allah. Allah alone is the Ruler and His commandments constitute the law of Islam. Risala is the medium through which we receive the law of Allah. We have received two things from this source: the Qur’an, the book in which Allah has expounded His law, and the authoritative interpretation and exemplification of that Book by the Prophet Muhammad (blessings of Allah and peace be upon him), through word and deed, in his capacity as the representative of Allah. The Qur’an laid down the broad principles on which human life should be based and the Prophet of Allah, in accordance with these principles, established a model system of Islamic life. The combination of these two elements is called the shari’a (law). Khilifa means "representation". Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vice-gerent; that is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, and within the limits prescribed, he is required to exercise Divine authority. To illustrate what this means, let us take the case of an estate of yours which someone else has been appointed to administer on your behalf. Four conditions invariably obtain: First, the real ownership of the estate remains vested in you and not in the administrator; secondly, he administers your property directly in accordance with your instructions; thirdly, he exercises his authority within the limits prescribed by you; and fourthly, in the administration of the trust he executes your will and fulfils your intentions and not his own. Any representative who does not fulfil these four conditions will be abusing his authority and breaking the covenant which was implied in the concept of "representation". This is exactly what Islam means when it affirms that man is the representative (khalifa) of Allah on earth. Hence, these four conditions are also involved in the concept of Khalifa. The state that is established in accordance with this political theory will in fact be a caliphate under the sovereignty of Allah. Democracy In Islam The above explanation of the term Khilafa also makes it clear that no individual or dynasty or class can be Khalifa: the authority of Khilafa is bestowed on the whole of any community which is ready to fulfil the conditions of representation after subscribing to the principles of towhid and Risala. Such a society carries the responsibility of the Khilafa as a whole and each one of its individuals shares in it. This is the point where democracy begins in Islam. Every individual in an Islamic society enjoys the rights and powers of the caliphate of Allah and in this respect all individuals are equal. No-one may deprive anyone else of his rights and powers. The agency for running the affairs of the state will be formed by agreement with these individuals, and the authority of the state will only be an extension of the powers of the individuals delegated to it. Their opinion will be decisive in the formation of the government, which will be run with their advice and in accordance with their wishes. Whoever gains their confidence will undertake the duties and obligations of the caliphate on their behalf; and when he loses this confidence he will have to step down. In this respect the political system of Islam is as perfect a dorm of democracy as there can be. What distinguishes Islamic democracy from Western democracy, therefor, is that the latter is based on the concept of popular sovereignty, while the former rests on the principle of popular Khilafa. In Western democracy, the people are sovereign; in Islam sovereignty is vested in Allah and the people are His caliphs or representatives. In the former the people make their own; in the latter they have to follow and obey the laws (shari’a) given by Allah through His Prophet. In one the government undertakes to fulfil the will of the people; in the other the government and the people have to fulfil the will of Allah. The Purpose Of The Islamic State We are now in a position to examine more closely the type of state which is built on the foundations of tawhid, Risala and Khilafa. The Holy Qur’an clearly states that the aim and purpose of this state is the establishment, maintenance and development of those virtues which the Creator wishes human life to be enriched by and the prevention and eradication of those evils in human life which He finds abhorrent. The Islamic state is intended neither solely as an instrument of political administration nor for the fulfillment of the collective will of any particular set of people; rather, Islam places a high ideal before the state for the achievement of which it must use all the means at its disposal. This ideal is that the qualities of purity, beauty, goodness, virtue, success and prosperity which Allah wants to flourish in the life of His people should be engendered and developed and that all kinds of exploitation, injustice and disorder which, in the sight of Allah, are ruinous for the world and detrimental to the life of His creatures, should be suppressed and prevented. Islam gives us a clear outline of its moral system by stating positively the desired virtues and the undesired evils. Keeping this outline in view, the Islamic state can plan its welfare programme in every age and in any environment. The constant demand made by Islam is that the principles of morality must be observed at all costs and in all walks of life. Hence, it lays down as an unalterable policy that the state should base its policies on justice, truth and honesty. It is not prepared, under any circumstances, to tolerate fraud, falsehood and injustice for the sake of political, administrative or national expediency. Whether it be relations between the rulers and the ruled within the state, or the relations of the state with other states, precedence must always be given to truth, honesty and justice. Islam imposes similar obligations on the state and the individual: to fulfil all contracts and obligations; to have uniform standards in dealings; to remember obligations along with rights and not to forget the rights of others when expecting them to fulfil their obligations; to use power and authority for the establishment of justice and not for the perpetration of injustice; to look upon duty as a sacred obligation and to fulfil it scrupulously; and to regard power as a trust from Allah to be used in the belief that one has to render an account of one's actions to Him in the life Hereafter. Fundamental Rights Although an Islamic state may be set up anywhere on earth, Islam does not seek to restrict human rights or privileges to the boundaries of such a state. Islam has laid down universal fundamental rights for humanity which are to be observed and respected in all circumstances. For example, human blood is sacred and may not be spilled without strong justification; it is not permissible to oppress women, children, old people, the sick or the wounded; women's honour and chastity must be respected; the hungry must be fed, the naked clothed and the wounded or diseased treated medically irrespective of whether they belong to the Islamic community or are from amongst its enemies. These, and other provisions have been laid down by Islam as fundamental rights for every man by virtue of his status as a human being. Nor, in Islam, are the rights of citizenship confined to people born in a particular state. A Muslim ipso facto becomes the citizen of an Islamic state as soon as he sets foot on its territory with the intention of living there and thus enjoys equal rights along with those who acquire its citizenship by birth. And every Muslim is to be regarded as eligible for positions of the highest responsibility in an Islamic state without distinction of race, colour or class. Islam has also laid down certain rights for non-Muslims who may be living within the boundaries of an Islamic state and these rights necessarily form part of the Islamic constitution. In Islamic terminology, such non-Muslims are called dhimmis (the covenanted), implying that the Islamic state has entered into a covenant with them and guaranteed their protection. The life, property and honour of a dhimmis is to be respected and protected in exactly the same way as that of a Muslim citizen. Nor is there difference between a Muslim and a non-Muslim citizen in respect of civil or criminal law. The Islamic state may not interfere with the personal rights of non-Muslims, who have full freedom of conscience and belief and are at liberty to perform their religious rites and ceremonies in their own way. Not only may they propagate their religion, they are even entitled to criticize Islam within the limits laid down by law and decency. These rights are irrevocable. Non-Muslims cannot be deprived of them unless they renounce the covenant which grants them citizenship. However much a non-Muslim state may oppress its Muslim citizens it is not permissible for an Islamic state to retaliate against its non-Muslim subjects; even if all the Muslims outside the boundaries of an Islamic state are massacred, that state may not unjustly shed the blood of a single non-Muslim citizen living within its boundaries. Executive And Legislature The responsibility for the administration of the government in an Islamic state is entrusted to an amir (leader) who may be compared to the president or the prime minister in a Western democratic state. All adult men and women who subscribe to the fundamentals of the constitution are entitled to vote for the election of the amir. The basic qualifications for an amir are that he should command the confidence of the majority in respect of his knowledge and grasp of the spirit of Islam, that he should possess the Islamic quality of fear of Allah and that he should be endowed with qualities of statesmanship. In short, he should have both virtue and ability. A shoora(advisory council) is also elected by the people to assist and guide the amir. It is incumbent on the amir to administer his country with the advice of this shooraThe amir may retain office only so long as he enjoys the confidence of the people and must relinquish it when he loses that confidence. Every citizen has the right to criticize the amir and his government and all reasonable means for the ventilation of public opinion must be available. Legislation in an Islamic state is to be carried out within the limits prescribed by the law of the shari’a. The injunctions of Allah and His Prophet are to be accepted and obeyed and no legislative body may alter or modify them or make any law contrary to them. Those commandments which are liable to two or more interpretations are referred to a sub-committee of the advisory council comprising men learned in Islamic law. Great scope remains for legislation on questions not covered by specific injunctions of the shari’a and the advisory council or legislature is free to legislate in regard to these matters. In Islam the judiciary is not places under the control of the executive. It derives its authority directly from the shari’a and is answerable to Allah. The judges are appointed by the government but once a judge occupies the bench he has to administer justice impartially according to the law of Allah; the organs and functionaries of the government are not outside his legal jurisdiction, so that even the highest executive authority of the government is liable to be called upon to appear in a court of law as a plaintiff or defendant. Rulers and ruled are subject to the same law and there can be no discrimination on the basis of position, power or privilege, Islam stands for equality and scrupulously adheres to this principle in social, economic and political realms alike. Human Rights, The West And Islam The Western Approach People in the West have the habit of attributing every beneficial development in the world to themselves. For example, it is vociferously claimed that the world first derived the concept of basic human rights from the Magna Carta of Britain - which was drawn up six hundred years after the advent of Islam. But the truth is that until the seventeenth century of no-one dreamt of arguing that the Magna Carta contained the principles of trial by jury, Habeas Corpus and control by Parliament of the right of taxation. If the people who drafted the Magna Carta were living today they would be greatly surprised to be told that their document enshrined these ideals and principles. To the best of my knowledge, the West had no concept of human and civic rights before the seventeenth century; and it was not until the end of the eighteenth century that the concept took on practical meaning in the constitutions of America and France. After this, although there appeared references to basic human rights in the constitutions of many countries, more often than not these rights existed only on paper. In the middle of the present century, the United Nations, which may now be more aptly described as the Divided Nations, made a Declaration of Universal Human Rights, and passed a resolution condemning genocide; regulations were framed to prevent it. But there is not a single resolution or regulation of the United Nations which can be enforced if the country concerned wants to prevent it. They are just expressions of pious hopes. They have no sanctions behind them, no force, physical or moral, to enforce them. Despite all the high-sounding resolutions of the United Nations, human rights continue to be violated and trampled upon. The Islamic Approach When we speak of human rights in Islam we mean those rights granted by Allah. Rights granted by kings or legislative assemblies can be withdrawn as easily as they are conferred; but no individual and no institution has the authority to withdraw the rights conferred by Allah. The charter and the proclamations and the resolutions of the United Nations cannot be compared with the rights sanctioned by Allah; the former are not obligatory on anybody, while the latter are an integral part of the Islamic faith. All Muslims and all administrators who claim to be Muslim have to accept, recognize and enforce them. If they failed to enforce them or violate them while paying lip-service to them, the verdict of the Holy Qur’an is unequivocal: "Those who do not judge by what Allah has sent down are the disbelievers (Kafirun)." (5:44) The following verse also proclaims: "They are the wrong-doers (zalimoon)". (5:45) A third verse in the same chapter says: "They are the perverse and law-breakers (fasiqoon)." (5:47) In other words, if temporal authorities regard their own words and decisions as right and those given by Allah as wrong, they are disbelievers. If, on the other hand, they regard Allah's commands as right but deliberately reject them in favour of their owns decisions, then they are wrong-doers. Law-breakers are those who disregard the bond of allegiance
Name: Ananda
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 14:03:32 -0700
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What Non-Muslims are facing under Islamic oppression now is tough; but what they faced in medieval times in history will make you cry. In Chitor, 2000 women and children committed suicide in a bonfire rather than surrender to Alauddin Khilji - they knew what was in store from them.
Name: Mushafiq Sultan
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 19:45:50 -0700
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Jizya is not meant to oppress the Christians or Jews.For those who don't know, the Jizya is a tax imposed on the Christians and Jews living under the protection of the Islamic state. However, it is not imposed on all Christians and Jews. It is only imposed on the men who have attained puberty. So therefore it is not imposed on the women and children. The tax is also imposed fairly and is not meant to be overburdening.The Jizya tax guarantees the Christians and Jews complete protection under the Islamic state. If an enemy country attacks the Islamic country, the Islamic country has a duty to defend the Christians and Jews and the Christians and Jews are not even obliged to fight!Muslims also have to pay a yearly tax called Zakat. Zakat is even binding on property, and jewellery. Zakat should also be paid in the form of food as well. The Jizya is not binding on the property of the Christians and Jews.Ibn Misr has used Surah 9:29 to show that Muslims must fight them until they pay the Jizya, so this shows discrimination. However, this also applies to the Muslims who do not pay their Zakat! Abu Bakr fought against the Muslims who didn't payZakat. So how does this discriminate against the Christians and Jews?This is completely justified. If they go against the Islamic rule and government they deserve to be punished. What else was Abu Bakr supposed to do? In America if someone does not pay their taxes they can go to jail. Does that make America unjust? In China they kill tax evaders (A New York Times article describes the context and details of one businessman who was executed in China for tax evasion (11 Mar. 2001). at http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/research/ndp/ref/?action=view&doc=chn41156e). You have to understand that these are God's laws. It is probably difficult for a non-Muslim to understand this but from the Muslim perspective it is completely justifiable. For God sake people get executed or punished for crimes against man made laws, what do you expect to happen to people that break God's laws?Zakah is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and it is compulsory on everyone. It is compulsory even on the non-Muslim, this is called Jizya. Jizya does not degrade the non-Muslim people, it actually brings equality. Since the Muslims are obliged to pay Zakah, then why cant non-Muslims pay Jizya? That brings equality between the two.The Jizya is a tax levied on non-Muslims in lieu of military service which is compulsory for Muslims but not for non-Muslims. The amount of Jizya is much less than the Zakat, which is levied on Muslims only. The non-Muslims paying Jizya were exempt from compulsory military service in a Muslim State but were entitled to full protection.
Name: balam
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 19:58:46 -0700
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The best way to understand Islam is to replace the word allah with satan and mohammad with postman of allah.Islam in my opinion is the distorted face of Judaism and Chritianity on the body of paganism with demonic blood running through its veins.It is the cult of hate,inspired by the god-father of arabia.Fortunately itS days are numbered-Thanks to OSAMA-BIN-LADAN.
Name: judeo christianity islam is nothing but terrorist cult whose days r numbered
Date: Wednesday April 16, 2008
Time: 23:51:21 -0700
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FILTHY RELIGION JUDEO CHRISTIANITY ISLAM WHOSE TERRORIST LIKE ADAM,MOSES,ABRAHAM,JESUS,MUHAMED R THE FAKE PROPHETS IS WORLD WORST IDEOLOGY SAME AS NAZISM,AND IN PERSUIT OF MAKING WORLD ACCEPT THEIR IMAGINARY 1 TRUE DEITY THEY HV KILLED COUNTLESS MILLIONS IN MINDLESS VOILENCE FOR THEIR FAKE 1 DEITY.SOON TRUTH WILL TRIUMPH AND JUDEO CHRISTIANITY ISLAM WILL BE DESTROYED.
Name: Kevin Anderson
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 00:34:26 -0700
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Recently, I e-mailed a professor that slammed the "Fitna" film. I explained to her about how Turkey used to be a moderate Muslim nation and the Christians used to be about 38% of the population. Now, they aren't so moderate Muslim and the current Christian population is approx. .01%. This has happened in just the past 60 years. I yearn for a new Crusade.
Name: antimod
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 08:26:27 -0700
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Mr. Mushafiq Sultan, you try to justify the jaziya tax on all nonmuslim men who have attained puberty because they are under islamic protection. Think of a country where muslims are in minority and the rulers are nonmuslims.How would like the jaziya tax to be levied from you muslims. You muslims are taking advantage of democratic countries like the west and countries like India. Stop justifying all those draconian laws written against nonmusmlims in your koran said to be spoken by your allah. Your allah must be repenting for his misdeed. Sooner or later he will arrange for extermination of this cult called islam. If you continue to push your way your days are numbered. Enormous muslim population is no good because you all are damned cowards who can only organise terrorism. Aurangzed with his illgotten empire tried this idiotic and inhuman law of jaziya and you know the story. Hindus continue to be there and are prospering. Muslims of India are all converts. The day is not for when all these hindu converted muslims will be back into their parent fold. Those who dont will meet their end. This is certain.Pakistan which was built on hindu hatred will be reduced to dust. Anyone who hates God's creation, men or animals, and resorts to violence to prove he is right will be punished by Him. You hate pigs and dogs. Why did your allah creat them at all. Why didnt he send you all muslim men with a penis removed of the foreskin. You fools wake up before it is too late and repent for all that was done and being done in the name of religion and atone for your misdeeds.Dooms day is not too for you.The next crusade will be from both west and east.You all will be pulverised thats for sure.
Name: RANGEEV
Date: Thursday April 17, 2008
Time: 11:35:06 -0700
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So Kiven you yearn for another crusade, do you want another SALLAUDEEN TO RISE AND KICK YOUR ASS AGAIN?
Name: SomeOne
Date: Friday April 18, 2008
Time: 10:47:02 -0700
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Name: ian
Date: Saturday April 19, 2008
Time: 12:55:07 -0700
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Rangeev, people aren't so stupid anymore, but I am not so shore about you!
Name: akhter
Date: Sunday April 20, 2008
Time: 15:26:21 -0700
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So Ian you agree with the writer who is yearning for another crusade against Muslims.
Name: pmk
Date: Tuesday April 22, 2008
Time: 16:41:59 -0700
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People in democracies get the government they deserve. If we aren't willing to fight for our own traditions then we don't deserve to keep them. Our fathers and grandfathers fought to preserve our freedom. Look what we are doing with it. We deserve Islam. Muslims deserve Islam. We all deserve to be in the dustbin of history.
Name: ///
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 06:23:31 -0700
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ahkter don't be ignorant...islam has made "crusades" from its beginning and it still does...islam is too the only religion that preaches hate.