From Salman Rushdie to the Cartoons–and the courage of our Danish friends
22 Feb, 2008
Drastic escalation in Denmark, A turn
for the worse
First the murder plot against the Danish cartoonist
Danish police arrested three men with a Muslim background suspected of conspiring to kill Kurt Westergaard, a Danish cartoonist with Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten.
In a statement on
Jyllands-Posten's website, Mr Westergaard said: "Of course I fear
for my life when the police intelligence service say that some
people have concrete plans to kill me.
"But I have turned fear into anger and resentment."
Then, the ultimatum from the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) denouncing the reprinting of a Danish cartoon of the Prophet Mohammad, warning it could lead to confrontations between Muslims and Christians. "By reprinting these cartoons we are heading toward a bigger conflict and that shows that both sides will be hostages of their radicals," OIC Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a Turk, said in Istanbul. The Jeddah-based OIC is the world's largest pan-Islamic body, with 57 members.
BUT LET’S NO ONE FORGET THAT ISLAM IS PEACE
And today, the bombing in Copenhagen this morning followed a week of street riots over the 'Prophet' cartoons (February 20, 2008)
Around 11am today a bomb exploded in a solarium in Copenhagen. The suntan shop was situated just by the national football stadium in Oesterbro, a peaceful and affluent part of the Danish capital. The explosion completely destroyed the shop and the surrounding flats were also damaged. The police are putting the fact that no one was hurt down to sheer luck; two other bags were found in the area and have been destroyed. Two young men between the ages of 15 and 25 were seen running away from the crime scene; they were described as "foreign-looking" and are now wanted by the police.
The Organization of Islamic
took off the mask and declared what we always knew: Submit, or we
will kill you, and unleash our thugs against the Christian
To the O.I.C. : the truth is out. Killing Christians or anyone else is not new for you. It is what you did best since 1400 years, your prophet of doom started this since the beginning of his carrier of attacking innocent people and shopping heads. The sword on your Prophet banner (the Saudi Arabian flag) needs no explanation, it tells the world what your history and your aim is all about. You never hid your intentions, and your threat only shows your turmoil and desperation.
You’re “Islam is peace” on buses placard, your “Anti defamation” U.N. bill to muzzle the truth about your death cult, and all your frenetic gesticulations about your fastest growing cult (in jails), and dominating us, it didn’t work. So now, you’re resorting to what worked best for your Prophet and throughout your history to “convince” the sons of apes and pigs with your message of peace: THE SWORD.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED
It worked well for you in the past. But you’re sword is rusted, and who takes by the sword, is taken by the sword. Now, the word and cartoons are mightier than your sword.
If you care about your hurt feelings, we are the first to agree with you. We're not here to hurt your feelings. But let us turn the question around. Do you care about our feelings? If your answer is yes, then, take off from your "holy" book what your prophet called us, "The Sons of Apes and Pigs", for a start.
Let’s take another example, to see what you think of what your Prophet said for our feelings.
Sahih Muslim, Book 37: Number 6665: Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (May peace be upon him) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
Is that’s how you respect our feelings? If someone said something like this to you, wouldn’t you consider him to be a thug? Or you would praise him with “Peace be upon him”?
CAIR mission statement reads: Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
I would like to help CAIR in their mission, which is the same mission of the O.I.C., to “enhance the understanding of Islam” to Americans and western populations, with the help of the Hadith (saying) we just mentioned, from the prophet of Islam.
Dear Muslims, you know that If a Jew or a Christian is your rescue from Hell Fire, then they’re already doomed, and if they’re already doomed, it means their life don’t count, if their life doesn’t count, it’s like they don’t exist, if they don’t exist, it means they’re already dead. Then, killing them is not a crime, since according to your religion; you can’t be accused of killing an already dead person.
No one should think for a second that this interpretation is the result of the power of my analysis. I wouldn’t allow myself to interpret Islam, and be accused of being “out of context.” This is Jurisprudence, and the Islamic interpretation that every Muslim knows. It is confirmed by another very famous Hadith used in the Shari’a Law (this way you’ll know what the Shari’a Law have in store for you), Sahih Bukhari, Book 83:Volume 9, Number 5, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)."
Any Westerner that knows nothing about Islam, never read the Koran or any Islamic books, this saying of the Islamic prophet is Islam in a nutshell for dummies. This is for enhancing your understanding of Islam. Let’s continue with the enhancement.
For encouraging dialogue(according to CAIR). Once you know that, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)," then it would be nice to establish a healthy dialogue. Better be with the Muslim that you’ll rescue, and take his place in the Hell Fire, to discuss your funeral arrangements.
For protecting Muslims civil liberties. What more liberties, can they ask for, besides killing us? It's nice that they call it “civil”.
For empowering American Muslims. This you can understand by yourself, from the same Hadith, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)." So, once we’re killed, they have all the power. It’s a no brainer.
For building coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding. This is a bit of a puzzle to me. From the above, you shouldn’t have any misunderstanding for the justice you’ll get. As for the mutual understanding, is there anything else you still don’t understand? Everything is crystal clear, as long as you always remember this, “no Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (unclean, disbeliever)," to prevent any mutual misunderstanding. The puzzle is in “building coalitions”. I can’t help you with this, it froze my brain power of analysis, since (according to the saying of their prophet) we’re doomed, and considered dead, then who would they build coalitions with? Anyone on steroids is welcome to help with his comments on this one.
My dear Muslims, you complain about your hurt feelings, do you remember our feelings when you curse Christians and Jews seventeen times a day in your prayers, “Al Fatiha”. Is this is what you call respect for our feelings, and mutual understanding?
And why are you ashamed of a cartoon showing your prophet with a bomb in his turban. Are you denying what your prophet said, “I was victorious by terror". That's his own admission, that he was a terrorist. Isn’t that what made you proud of him? Is there any language misunderstanding on our part for the word “terror?” Or is it you that have a problem understanding the words of your prophet? We're only reading from your books. If you don't like your books anymore, if you see they don't fit now with a civilized peaceful society, which I won't disagree with you on that, Then our advise to you is simple, just burn them, and make yourself a new set of books, without the word “TERROR” in it. Then all your troubles will go away, and you’ll be cured from mockery. Then you will wake up, and the cartoons will be a bad dream memory.
You consider the cartoons to be a mockery of your prophet. No, it’s your prophet that is the mockery in the cartoons.
The cartoons can make a mockery of Jesus or Moses (and it happened), but Jesus and Moses will not be the mockery in the cartoons, because there is nothing about them that would make them a mockery to themselves or their followers.
By brandishing your sword and threatening to bomb and kill, you’re acting exactly like the figure in the cartoon, proving, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the person in the cartoon is your prophet, and you are his faithful followers. And you are making a mockery of yourselves.
It is not us mocking you, it is “your prophet” that is making a mockery of you, and you’re calling him “the most honorable of all prophets”. The mockery is, you can’t deny that the cartoon is representing truthfully your prophet. Can you?
The mockery is, you want to kill the truth with your sword. You can kill the cartoonist, but not the (truth) cartoon, it’s engraved in the minds of people, and your sword can’t reach it.
You’re the one telling us, how proud you are of all what your prophet did and said, why you complain when we show him as he described himself, a terrorist? Is it the bomb that you find inaccurate? If there were bombs in the time of Mohammad, the banner of Islam (the Saudi Arabian flag) would have two bombs instead of the two swords on it. Same as, if Coca Cola and Big Mac existed in the time of Mohammad, he would’ve promised you that too in paradise.
THE MOCKERY IS:
When you read about the acts and the sayings of your prophet, like in this hadith, “I was made victorious by terror,” and you praise him with “Peace be upon him”. Isn’t this a mockery, asking peace and blessing for a terrorist?
When you read about your prophet, killing the father, the brother, the husband of the newlywed young Jewish bride Safiah bent hoyay, wife of Kenanah, and raping her, the same day, while the blood of her murdered husband and family was still hot. You still praise him with “Peace be upon him.” Isn’t this a mockery, praising a killer and a rapist?
When Mohammad said, “My bread and butter is under the tip of my spear”, which is the language of a bandit and a criminal robber, living off robbing and stealing people under the threat of his spear or sword, which is equivalent today of using a gun or a bomb for extortion. You keep praising him by repeating, “peace be upon him.” Isn’t this a mockery, praising a bandit, a robber?
Your prophet was known to curse people. Sahih Muslim, Book 32:Book 3 Number 6285: “A'isha reported that two persons visited Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and both of them talked about a thing, of which I am not aware, but that annoyed him and he invoked curse upon both of them and hurled malediction.” You still praise him saying “peace be upon him”. Isn’t this a mockery, praise him for cursing people?
Would you praise your father, or be proud of him if he said or did this?
"The prophet, peace be upon him, married Eisha when she was six year-old"
“The prophet, peace be upon him, sent his Sahaba (henchmen companion) to behead a 120 year old poet, Kaab ibn el Ashraf.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, sent a companion to kill a woman, Asmaa bent Marwan, while she was sleeping and breast feeding her toddler, with her four babies sleeping around her.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I was ordered to kill all people.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, married his daughter in law.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to kill the people of the book, unless they pay the Jizyah and be humiliated.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said whoever change his religion (leave Islam) kill him”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, not to take Christians and Jews as friends.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, to slaughter the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, told us to rape the women we abducted (the possession of the right hand).”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them'"
“The prophet, peace be upon him, taught us how to defecate, and cleansing with right hand, and cleansing with less than three stones, or cleansing with dung or bone”
“The prophet, peace be upon him, said, if any Muslim wants to urinate, he should do it at the foot of a wall”
“The Prophet, peace be upon him, prohibited us to urinate in a hole.”
This is just a small sampling of many more examples that fills a whole library.
And you keep praising him for everything that makes you ashamed, and a mockery to the world, when we simply expose the same acts and sayings that you keep praising him for. Isn’t it a mockery to worship a “prophet” that cornered you into that difficult position of needing to spend the rest of your life defending him, and trying to justify his scandalous deeds? Isn’t it time you ask yourself, who’s making a mockery of you? Us, or your prophet and your Islamic authorities holding the sword over your necks to make you swallow the lies they brainwash you with.
Can anyone in his right mind say, this is a morality or spirituality fit for a religion, or a prophet? And what would you say about the soundness of mind of any person praising the actions and teaching of such a “prophet” with, “peace be upon him”?
IS THIS IS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENTS CONSIDERS A RELIGION PROTECTED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION ACT?
Then, every mass murderer is entitled to claim the status of “prophet”, and his followers should be protected with the same Freedom of Religion Act.
Any wonder why criminals in jails are converting in droves and making it the fastest growing religion, emulating a prophet made on their own image?
And now, they (O.I.C) took off the mask, to show the real face they never succeeded to hide. The one we knew all along.
Free people of the Western world, you still have the power to make your voice thunder, to shake these politicians, and governments. To bring to the right path (not the right path of Islam) the corrupted ones, or kick them out of office, and strengthen the ones that knows the truth of the evil attacking us and wants our enslavement and humiliation.
Do you know that there is not one Islamic prayer without cursing you? And your governments is make it legal.
What they have written in their books is not the problem. Any criminal can write a book, calling to kill and humiliate people. It will never cause a problem, unless this book becomes protected by the Freedom of Religion Act, and this criminal is allowed to spread the teaching of this book, especially to millions of easy to indoctrinate young people, and tell them they’re commanded to implement what’s in that book, starting by emulating him (the) criminal that wrote it.
Western governments and politicians are protecting a book calling you “The sons of apes and pigs”. And instead of questioning that book, they made you, “The politically correct sons/daughters of apes and pigs.”
They (O.I.C.) are threatening to kill Christians, which they consider hostages in their own countries, and using them as bargaining chips if we don’t bow to their ultimatum. If we submit, that will be the death of, not only our freedom of speech, but our freedom, period. This will be effectively our total surrender, and their ultimate victory. It will be our Waterloo.
When the Arab hordes attacked the peaceful people of Egypt and the rest of the Middle East countries, they cut the tongues of anyone speaking his native language instead of Arabic. The purpose was to eradicate the ethnicity and the culture of the conquered people, which they succeeded in doing to a great extent. That’s exactly what they’re trying to do now, to cut your tongue, so you would be a politically correct zombie.
You have to understand that for Muslims this is the mother of all battles. You can see that from their desperate efforts to muzzle us. For us, anything less than a total freedom of speech front of that assault, is a defeat with grave consequences. Giving an inch will be a defeat that Muslims will exploit and squeeze us like a lemon till we will have nothing left to hold on to. Their ultimatum is meant to be a major tactical showdown. They have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. They know their cult has been exposed, and its rotten smell is filling the air. Their societies are in total turmoil and desperation.
We have everything to lose and nothing to gain, except the statut quo of protecting what we have, our freedom of speech, and democratic societies, and not to be subjugated. Their gain is our enslavement. Any compromise on our part is our defeat. There is no half victory in this. Muslims were never the kind of people with the mindset of “I win, you win, and everybody wins”. The most telling indication of their strategy is still evident when you see the number of Churches, synagogues and Hindu temples they destroyed to build on top of them their own mosques. Remember the great civilizations they destroyed wherever they set foot. In other words, their rule was, and still is, not to build next to others, but to build on what they destroy from others. They were never about, we win together, but in their false and insidious supremacist mind, their winnings, must be on the ruins of others.
Our defeat could not be caused from external attack, but from internal deceptions. We’re not only fighting the battle front of us, but the Trojan Horses and the fifth columns within and behind us. Our defeat in defending our freedom and principles would be self inflicted.
The only thing that Islam understands and respect is power. For the sake of social and civil order and the rule of law, our western governments should wake up and realize that the pressure cooker is boiling with steam that needs to be released if they don’t want to see it blowing in their faces, and everybody's face, causing a state of chaos. For this, western governments, unanimously, should take a firm stand and put an end to the continuous Islamic extortion. Especially in light of the threat from the Islamic countries that elevated the rhetoric to the level of thugs and professional killers. But when it comes from Islam, it's no surprise.
Since the Rushdie affair, western governments have been retreating in a show of weakness and on the defensive. Giving the message to an aggressively correct Islam that we’ll be politically correct. The result was politically catastrophic, with Islam gaining momentum disproportionately with its real strength.
Then, the protests were directed largely at one person. Now they are directed at a whole country, in this case Denmark, and more than that, against all the Western society and its traditions.
We are in the middle of, a period in which Islam is trying to flex its muscle and subdue us into submission (it is not just Iran any more), they’re trying to establish for us the rules of conduct.
The tide is visibly turning against Islam, all over, with a growing climate of suspicion toward Muslims.
Germany, according to a study commissioned by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper, 56 percent of Germans said they believed a "clash of cultures" already existed. 71 percent said they believed Islam to be "intolerant," some 91 per cent said they associated Islam with oppression of women. Asked if there should be a ban on the building of mosques in Germany as long as the building of churches in some Islamic states is forbidden, 56 per cent agreed. There was even considerable backing for ending Germany's constitutional right of freedom of religion with regard to Islam. Asked if strict limits should be imposed on the practice of Islam in Germany to protect the country, 40 per cent said they would support such moves. In the Netherlands, 63 per cent of respondents thought Islam was incompatible with modern European life. Even in Sweden, the purgatory of Political Correctness, opinion polls have revealed that two out of three Swedes doubt whether Islam can be combined with Swedish society. Recently, I have also for the first time seen visible cracks in the wall of censorship on public debate in Sweden. Change is in the air, all over Europe.
If western governments don’t act now and probe the teaching of Mohammad, to prevent further aggravation of the situation, the day will come when they’ll be forced to take more drastic measures, and mandatory identification of Muslims will become a potential remedy.
1400 years of Islamic history
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Name: Saleem : Excellent article
Date: Thursday February 21, 2008
Time: 22:24:43 -0700
Excellent article Ibn Misr.Thanks for exposing the soft underbelly of islam. Most powerful emotion is fear and Mohammed used it fully to keep muslims in the fold.Questioning and doubting is punished by death here and hellfire in the hereafter. That fear keeps most muslims muslims except the daring ones who question and leave islam like Wafa Sultan, Hirsi Ali, MA Khan, Ayesha, Salman, Taslima, Ali Sina,Mark Gabriel,Nonie Darwesh and millions of closet apostates like myself..
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 00:23:42 -0700
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 08:12:32 -0700
Rushdie -don't mention him! ANd what a hullaballo for the most boring book, ever! I tried to read it once - front - midway and end - booorrring! If the islamics would have stayed quiet, no one would have paid attention to the book.
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 11:12:48 -0700
Answering-Falsehood, How do you rationalize the fact that Jews and Christian of the time didn't believe in Muhammad and claimed that he was a liar because his so called words of God contradicted the Bible, specifically the Old Testament? That didn't stop people to fall for his claims either volunteerily or by force. So, your argument that if he was making things up people would claim otherwise is nonsense. You just kill the people who disagree with you or claim that they have changed their books. A living example is Iran's current president, Ahmadinejad, who claims that Holocaust never happened despite mountains of evidence in the form of films, document, and survivors. Sad thing is that majority of Muslims believe him. Muslims have a history of changing history! And what is the proof that Jews and Christians have "corrupted" the bible. Koran! How convenience. So you write a book (Koran) that claims other books (Bible, etc) are wrong therefore it must be so. So, the fact that Muhammad was able to gather followers to his message and claim that he was a true prophet of God doesn't impress me. If you were living in the time of Muhammad what proof did you have that proved to you beyond a shadow of the doubt he was a prophet. Nothing! Except his teaching and his claim that he was illiterate and therefore it must have been a miracle for him to be able to write Koran, or better yet the Koran itself. Notice that all the "miracles" attributed to Muhammad concerns him not the people. In sharp contrast to this is the story of Exodus in the bible. All the miracles stated in the bible happened for the whole nation not just Moses. In other words, some 3 million people (according to the bible) witnessed the miracles and not just one man. The chances of one person making something up is 1/2. The chances of 3,000,000 people making something up is 1/3,000,000. See the difference! When people asked Muhammad for a miracle to prove that he was a messenger of God he responded: ‘The miracles are with God. I am only a warner, plain and simple’” (al-‘Ankabut 29: 50). So, all of the sudden the all-powerful God who had performed all those miracles at the time of the Bible couldn't do one miracle for the nation that would prove He had sent Muhammad. You don’t see any problem with that?!! Besides, Koran contains very little new material. Most everything said in Koran had been claim by the Bible or other books before it. And as for all the "scientific" findings in the Koran is this one of them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 13:15:03 -0700
pisslam says that Ibn Misr should refrain from trying to convince the moslamics to add the words "reason" and "dialog" to their limited vocabularies. pisslam writes that Ibn Misr should instead become a moslamic scholar, just as pisslam has done. pisslam further says that one must know and believe in only 4 unchanging truths in order to be considered a genuine moslamic scholar. Those 4 truths are: islam is evil; mohammed was a murderous, false-prophet con man; allah is nothing more than some kind of hallucinated pagan moon deity; and the koran is a fraud. Armed with this knowledge, fortified with a stout heart, and shielded by a strong faith in our Judeo-Christian God, the moslamic scholar will remain steadfast and every bit as rigid in his beliefs about islam as the moslamics are rigid in their own beliefs. In this way writes pisslam, the moslamic scholar is well prepared to intellectually and successfully dispel any specious mumbo jumbo that might froth forth from the sewer that is the mouth of islam. USAkbar!
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 14:43:47 -0700
Muslims ain't seen nothing yet. When Jesuits and Opus Dei go in full gear ........it's armageddon for muslim subhumans.
Date: Friday February 22, 2008
Time: 19:50:52 -0700
These two comments by "Jorge" and "Read!!!" indicate that these two birds simply just do not have a clue as to why we in the West despise islam. It is because islam wants to destroy us and our way of life. We simply will not let that happen. There is no discourse on this; it just will not happen. If the West ultimately has to kill every single moslamic and destroy every single thing moslamics hold dear throughout the entire world in order to save our civilization, we will do so. With regard to any debate or outrage on this matter see pisslam's scholarly entry from earlier today. You will find that we in the West are becoming as hard and as rigid in our beliefs about islam as the moslamics are in their beliefs. These cartoons of mohammed mean nothing. To us in the West they are yesterday's news. Moslamics call us filthy, yet they are the ones living in shit holes, eating dirt, and calling themselves clean.
Date: Saturday February 23, 2008
Time: 03:16:19 -0700
It's so funny how people foul themselves,they think they are destroying islam by talking all nonsense against it.Islam has known many challenge and has been lasted since 1400 years,many generations went on and disapeared like nothing happened...The question is If the Islam is not protected by God,it could be gone and faded...But what we are seeing everyday it tells a total deferent story,the Islam is growing so fast,it overcome christianity, destroyed bodism and hindusm these later they look like now to there people just a joke of Krishna, and budda... Islam watch, faithfreedom....etc the Islam is not afarid of your lies,each lie you say against it it creates a strenght in people they learn it and check it out we real sourses and they become muslims...that's how Islam is growing up so fast... As a muslim,i thank you so much keep up the good work against Islam and muslims because people they don't have double standerds,and double faces like you they surely will know the truth and they will follow it...
Date: Saturday February 23, 2008
Time: 10:41:17 -0700
Hello, Muslim22. Have you ever considered the possibility that you might be an idiot, and that your views and beliefs are the result of your idiocy? Have you ever in your life considered the possibility that you might be wrong about anything? Do you have any thoughts at all in your head, or was it all put there during Friday prayers?
Date: Saturday February 23, 2008
Time: 10:47:52 -0700
allat -- you are right about Rushdie's book. It's even more boring than the quran, and more badly written, if that is possible.
Date: Saturday March 01, 2008
Time: 08:27:05 -0700
Terrific Book to read _ It is called "Unveiling Islam" and illustrates much of the hypocrisy and contradiction of the "Religion of Peace" Kill all infidels. Moses was a prophet, ignore Mosaic Laws, etc. http://www.amazon.com/Unveiling-Islam-Insiders-Muslim-Beliefs/dp/0825424003/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204385082&sr=8-1
Date: Monday March 03, 2008
Time: 13:03:25 -0700
It is obvious that Muslim22 hasn't the slightest concept of what a Total War means. Not a clue; literally, figuratively, or emotionally. But he will. Keep slaughtering Christians. Keep beheading people. Keep bombing. Eventually...one day...the people of the free world will take note and unleash a campaign against you the like of which hasn't been seen on this earth in an age. Your primitive desert-religion will be decimated. Hiding like the spineless cowards you are behind women and children won't help you. Nothing will. Your cities will be reduced to heaps of ash. You precious Mecca will become nothing more than a smoldering waste. Your religion will drink from the well of Oblivion, not Zem-Zem. And if you doubt this, perhaps it would be a good idea to research what a 'total war' is. Because keep it up, and your going to experience it first hand.