Does Sharia Promote Human Rights?
17 Feb, 2008
- The Archbishop of Canterbury says that implementing or permitting some parts of Shariah (Islamic law) is unavoidable. Is this wise?
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- It may be true that some parts of Islamic law are only about halal (permitted) foods, but other parts - not so.
- The Archbishop says he would not recommend incorporating Islamic punishments (hudud) in English law or permitting them in informal but binding Islamic courts in the UK. But are these fine line distinctions possible in Islam? Is all of Shariah eventually destined, as many millions of Muslims believe, to cover all parts of society, gradually, over the years - around the globe? Is it possible to take multiculturalism and cultural senstivity, though positive in many ways, too far?
- If the UK adopts or adapts any part of Islamic law or permits informal but binding Islamic courts to function under the UK's larger legal system, then the wise British people still need to ask these questions: Does Islamic law embody justice, beyond halal concerns? Does Shariah really promote human rights?
- Shariah comes mainly from the Quran and the hadith (Traditions) - original Islam - and they were developed and systematized later by legal scholars. Thus, "Islam" in this article stands for Muhammad, the Quran, reliable Traditions, the earliest Muslim leaders (e.g. Caliphs and judges), and classical legal scholars.
- 1. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.
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Iranian
officials sentenced three men to flogging not only for
illicit sex, but also for drinking alcohol.
- In Nigeria a Shariah court ordered that a drinker should be caned eighty strokes.
- In the Indonesian province of Aceh, fifteen men were caned in front of the mosque for gambling. This was done publicly so all could see and fear. Eleven others are scheduled to undergo the same penalty for gambling.
- After going through two previous stages before coming down hard on drinkers and gamblers, the Quran finally prohibits alcohol and gambling in Sura (Chapter) 5:90-91; these verses do not prescribe the punishment of flogging, but the hadith does. This drinker was brought to Muhammad who became angry:
- The Prophet felt it hard (was angry) and ordered all those who were present in the house, to beat him [the drinker dragged into Muhammad's presence] . ( Bukhari, Punishments, nos. 6774-6775 (online source; see the one just above, and the others below the one directly linked)
- The later classical legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith, so we do not need to examine them here.
- Here is the article that supports this point and that analyzes the Quranic verses on drinking and gambling. It also analyzes the hadith and later legal rulings:
- Maybe drinking and gambling is no concern to the Queen's Counsel, but what about the punishment (lashing) for these offenses in the Muslim community? Will the QC permit it to be meted out? If not, how can the proper authorities stop Islamic judges from doing this clandestinely?
- 2. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even for perceived highhandedness in their wives.
- Rania al- Baz, who had been beaten by her husband, made her ordeal public to raise awareness about violence suffered by women in the home in Saudi Arabia.
- Saudi television aired a talk show that discussed this issue. Scrolling three-fourths of the way down the link, the readers can see an Islamic scholar holding up sample rods that husbands may use to hit their wives.
- The Quran says:
- 4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them . If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur'an, Oxford UP, 2004)
- The hadith says that Muslim women in the time of Muhammad were suffering from domestic violence in the context of confusing marriage laws:
- Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon ' AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al- Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating) . It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, 'Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" (Bukhari)
- The next hadith shows Muhammad hitting his girl-wife, Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr:
- "He [Muhammad] struck me [Aisha] on the chest which caused me pain." (Muslim no. 2127)
- Here is the article that explains wife-beating as permissible.
- Domestic violence in the Quran (it has a long list of different translations of Sura (Chapter) 4:34, in order to resolve confusion over this verse, circulating around the web.)
- "Wife-beating may be unacceptable to us and our traditions today, but we must respect the customs of other cultures." How far do the British allow multiculturalism to go?
- 3. Islam's laws on women and marriage are archaic and patriarchal.
- The rights of women is that part of Shariah that has nothing to do with hudud (punishments), but has everything to do with oppression. Specifically, marital relations may become the first and most prominent area, beyond dietary laws, that are arbitrated in "informal but binding" Islamic courts. Here are some articles with brief annotations:
- Women are inferior to men in the Quran: In inheriting, women get half the share of men's. In the courtroom, women's testimony counts half that of men, because of the women's "deficient" mind.
- Polygamy in the Quran: Men are allowed to have four wives. Will Islamic courts in the UK uphold this? Will the British legal system cave into multiculturalism? "Polygamy is not our modern custom, but we must respect the customs of other cultures."
- The truth about Muslim-Christian marriages: Muslim men may marry Jewish and Christian women, but Jewish and Christian men are not permitted to marry Muslim women; how will this inequality be adjudicated in an Islamic court? Will they be permitted to adjudicate these matters? If so, will men get custody of the children in most cases of interfaith marriages? After all, isn't the West so decadent that an Islamic judge would be foolish, from his point of view, to award custody to "corrupt" western women? What if the Muslim husband, delighting in the foregone ruling (private but binding to him) that he gets custody, surreptitiously leaves the UK and returns to his "pure" non-western homeland to raise the children, never again to be seen by the mother?
- A strange divorce and remarriage law in the Quran: After a divorce, if the couple wants to reconcile and marry each other again, then the ex-wife must marry another man and divorce him. Will British law accept this? How far will it follow multiculturalism to its logical conclusion and permit this fused civil-religious-marriage law?
- Top ten rules in the Quran that oppress women: a summary article, with many links under each point.
- 4. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge-physical eye for physical eye.
- In Saudi Arabia a man had two teeth extracted under the law of retaliation.
- In Saudi Arabia, a man was about to have his eye removed.
- In a court in Pakistan sentenced a man to be blinded by acid after he carried out a similar attack on his fiancée.
- An Iranian court orders a man's eye to be removed for throwing acid on another man and blinding him in both eyes.
- The Quran says:
- 5:45 And We ordained therein for them: Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal. But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers . . .). (Hilali and Khan, the Noble Qur'an, Riyadh: Darussalam, 1996)
- This passage allows for an indemnity or compensation instead of imposing the literal punishment of eye for an eye. No one should have a quarrel with this option. According to the hadith, the plaintiff also has the option to forgive, and this is legitimate, provided a judge oversees the process. The problem is the literal law of retaliation.
- The hadith and later legal rulings demonstrate that this excessive option was actually carried out, as do the three modern examples linked above.
- Please go to my own study:
- Law of retaliation: cites the hadith and later legal rulings.
- Would an Islamic court eventually carry out this sentence under the UK's very nose, before the proper authorities can intervene? Doesn't multiculturalism, carried out to its logical conclusion, demand that we today respect the cultural, legal custom of eye-for-an-eye punishment, literally?
- 5. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off.
- Warning! This short article has photos of severed hands.
- Warning! This page has photos of thieves getting their hands chopped off. They also show beheadings.
- This news report shows a man getting his hand chopped off in Nigeria.
- The Quran says:
- 5:38 Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise. 39 But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)
- At first glance, verse 39 seems to accept repentance before the thief's hand is cut off. But the hadith states emphatically that repentance is acceptable only after mutilation. Muhammad himself says that even if his own daughter, Fatima, were to steal and then intercede that her hand should not be cut off, he would still have to cut it off (Bukhari, Punishments, no. 6788; online source). This hadith (no. 792) repeats that a woman's hand was cut off, even though some interceded for her so that she would not suffer from this atrocity. Muhammad says she must be punished regardless of this request. This is a parallel hadith in Muslim (no. 4187). Scroll a little above to view the section title. Also, note the hadith below this linked one. The legal scholar Malik (d. 795) says that cutting off a hand is obligatory even if the thief returns the stolen item or intercession is made on his behalf before the Caliph: Here and here.
- If the readers would like to see more hadith passages, they should click on this long supporting article: Thieves, give Muhammad a hand!
- We may not hear of such punishments being meted out in the short term in an Islamic court in the UK, but what about later, in a few decades? How far will respect for other customs and multiculturalism go?
- 6. Islam commands that homosexuals be harshly punished, including execution.
- The Taliban, who once ruled in Afghanistan (and who are still kicking and breathing their last), ordered a stone wall to be pushed over onto three men convicted of sodomy. Their lives were to be spared if they survived for thirty minutes and were still alive when the stones were removed.
- On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for "gay conduct."
- Ibn Abbas, Muhammad's cousin and highly reliable transmitter of hadith, reports the following about early Islam and Muhammad's punishment of homosexuals:
- . . . If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done. (Abu Dawud no. 4447)
- This hadith passage says that homosexuals should be burned alive or have wall pushed on them:
- Ibn Abbas and Abu Huraira reported God's messenger as saying, "Accursed is he who does what Lot's people did." In a version . . . on the authority of Ibn Abbas it says that Ali [Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law] had two people burned and that Abu Bakr [Muhammad's chief companion] had a wall thrown down on them. (Mishkat, vol. 1, p. 765, Prescribed Punishments)
- If the reader would like to see the Quran on the matter of homosexuality, the severity in the hadith, and rulings of classical fiqh, they should see the supporting article:
- Islamic law is not gay. The longer back-up article has links to many discussions on Islamic punishments of homosexuals (scroll down to "Supplemental material" in that link).
- Will we eventually hear of some kind of physical punishments (e.g. lashing) of Muslim gays and Lesbians in an "informal but binding" Islamic court in the UK? The Archbishop may not recommend hudud (punishments) as part of these courts, but can such fine line distinctions be made in Islamic law, which is destined to rule over all of society around the globe?
- 7. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
- Fornication:
- In 2001, Iranian officials sentenced three men to flogging for illicit sex.
- In Saudi Arabia, a rape victim may be flogged. But what does the Quran say?
- The Quran says:
- 24:2 The fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. [This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime (illegal sex), but if married persons commit it (illegal sex), the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's law]. (Hilali and Khan)
- The additions in the brackets, though not original to the Arabic, have the support of the hadith. These command flogging only of unmarried fornicators: Bukhari, Punishments, nos. 6831 and 6833. For many hadith dealing with fornication (and adultery, see below), go to the hadith collector and editor Bukhari and scroll up and down to read them.
- The classical legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith closely, so we do not need to analyze them here.
- According to this report, in Iran a teenage boy broke his Ramadan fast, so a judge sentenced him to be lashed with eighty-five stripes. He died from the punishment. Though his sad case does not deal with fornication, it is cited here because it shows that lashing can be fatal.
- Adultery:
- In December 2004, Amnesty International reports:
- An Iranian woman charged with adultery faces death by stoning in the next five days after her death sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court last month. Her unnamed co-defendant is at risk of imminent execution by hanging. Amnesty International members are now writing urgent appeals to the Iranian authorities, calling for the execution to be stopped.
- She is to be buried up to her chest and stoned to death. Where might the judges get this punishment?
- This hadith reports that a woman was buried up to her chest and stoned to death:
- And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al- Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on his face he cursed her . . . (Muslim no. 4206)
- Later Islamic legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith closely, so we do not need to analyze them here.
- Will we hear of lashing and death for fornicators and adulterers in Islamic courts in the UK, in the future?
- Here is the back-up article.
- 8. Islam orders harsh punishments, including execution, for Muslims and possible death for non-Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even Shariah itself.
- In 1989, Iran's Supreme Leader issued a fatwa (legal decree) to assassinate Salman Rushdie, a novelist, who wrote Satanic Verses, which includes questions about the angel Gabriel's role in inspiring the Quran. Now the extremists in the highest levels in Iran have recently renewed the fatwa.
- In 2005, The Muslim Council of Victoria, Australia, brought a lawsuit against two pastors for holding a conference and posting articles critiquing Islam. Three Muslims attended the conference and felt offended. The two pastors have been convicted based on Australia's vilification law. While on trial, one of them wanted to read from the Quran on domestic violence (see 9, above), but the lawyer representing the Council would not allow it. The pastors are appealing their conviction.
- Here are the classical legal rulings.
- First, the Muslim deserves death for doing any of the following (Reliance of the Traveler pp. 597-98, o8.7):
- (1) Reviling Allah or his Messenger; (2) being sarcastic about "Allah's name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat"; (3) denying any verse of the Quran or "anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it"; (4) holding that "any of Allah's messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent"; (5) reviling the religion of Islam; (6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law; (7) denying that Allah intended "the Prophet's message . . . to be the religion followed by the entire world."
- The non-Muslims living under Islamic rule are not allowed to do the following (p. 609, o11.10(1)-(5)): (1) Commit adultery with a Muslim woman or marry her; (2) conceal spies of hostile forces; (3) lead a Muslim away from Islam; (4) mention something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet . . . or Islam.
- According to the discretion of the caliph or his representative, the punishments imposed on non-Muslims for violating these rules are as follows: (1) death; (2) enslavement; (3) release without paying anything; and (4) ransoming in exchange for money. These punishments also execute free speech-even repulsive speech-and freedom of religion or conscience.
- Ultimately, censorship testifies to a lack of confidence in one's position and message. If the message of Islam were truly superior, one could trust in the power of truth.
- For the supporting articles that analyze the Quran and the hadith, both of which orders death to critics, go to my own studies:
- Is there any surprise as to why Muslim radicals violently protested the Danish cartoon drawings of the prophet? Will cultural sensitivity demand that unpleasant speech be suppressed? But the West must preserve its freedom of speech, even unpleasant speech.
- 9. Islam orders apostates to be harshly punished, including execution .
- In Iran an academic was condemned to death for criticizing clerical rule in Iran. The rulers assert that he was insulting Muhammad and Shi'ite laws. He was charged with apostasy (leaving a religion).
- This analysis tracks the application of apostasy laws around the world, citing many examples.
- Apostates are those who leave a religion like Islam, such as Salman Rushdie, whether they become atheists or convert to another religion. They are supposed to be killed according to the Quran, the hadith, and later legal rulings.
- This hadith, representing many others, says that some atheists were brought to Ali, Muhammad's son-in-law and cousin, and he burned them alive.
- The news of this event reached Ibn Abbas [Muhammad's cousin and highly reliable transmitter of traditions] who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger forbad it, saying, ‘Do no punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah Messenger, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him .'" (Bukhari, Apostates, no. 6922; online source)
- Evidently, these atheists were once Muslims, but they no longer followed Muhammad's way. The Islam of Ali and Ibn Abbas, Muhammad's family, would not tolerate freedom of religion, so Ali burned them alive. Ibn Abbas would have beheaded them, since fire is the punishment of Allah.
- See the previous point for the acts that entail leaving Islam according to Islamic law. Here are the articles that explain this Shariah law:
- This is a short, but full article on apostasy, citing Quranic verses and hadith passages. This older but still accurate dictionary has a brief entry on apostasy. Scroll down to "Apostasy from Islam."
- This mid-sized chapter on apostasy was written by an older generation Christian who knew Islam and Arabic thoroughly. It also analyzes some legal rulings in Islam on apostasy. This is a short section in an online book. It surveys the main ideas on apostasy. This short entry in the Index to Islam has a list of Quranic verses. This short article contrasts Islam's coercion of conscience with Christianity's freedom of conscience.
- Conservative scholar Sayyid Maududi (d. 1979) in this booklet argues that Sura 9:11-12 refers to apostates and that they should be put to death (scroll down to "The Proof in the Quran for the Commandment to Execute Apostates").
- This website has an overview of Islam on apostates. Apostates should be given time to repent, but if they refuse, they must be killed. Women apostates may be killed according to some schools of law, or she may be imprisoned and whipped.
- Here are my own studies:
- I have been involved in court cases that involve immigrants from Islamic countries, who switched religions and are due to be returned to their home country, unless the immigration judges grant them asylum. So far the US judges have understood the plight of the "apostates." But in the decades ahead, will informal but binding Islamic courts in the UK be permitted to adjudicate immigration laws, particularly on behalf of those seeking asylum from persecution in their home country for "apostasy"? Will Islamic courts in the UK understand these immigrants' / apostates' conundrum? Will the courts see the conflict of interests?
- "Our proud, long-standing British laws may grant asylum and protection to so-called ‘apostates,' but religious matters are now internal to the Islamic community and courts. Let them deal with it. We must respect their culture and laws."
- Will this work?
- Conclusion
- Does the Archbishop of Canterbury really want any part of Shariah to creep into the British legal system? Islam must spread around the globe and cover every area of society. Does the Archbishop really believe that if the UK permits only benign rulings on dietary laws at first, then other parts of Shariah - like women's testimony in a law court and divorce and child custody - will not be adjudicated in Islamic courts, in the future? "Inevitable" is the Archbishop's word on Shariah and its harmless dietary laws.
- In an interview on BBC Radio Four, the Archbishop mentions private Jewish courts. If they are allowed, then why not Islamic courts? The reply to this is simple. Is there any reputable Jewish group that has the express purpose of imposing its laws on all of society, of taking over all of society, around the globe? But that is Islam's stated goal. Plus, does Jewish law oppress women as Islamic law clearly does?
- Isn't the best solution not to permit any part of Shariah in the UK and other countries around the world? Doesn't Shariah merely, really embody seventh-century archaic customs that must never be brought forward into today's world? Can't we reach the conclusion that multiculturalism amd cultural sensitivity, though positive in some respects, can be taken too far, to excess?
- Isn't the following the best solution? Islam must reform, despite the current multiculturalism chic.
- However, the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations (and presumably judges "in informal but binding" Islamic courts in the UK) will not reform because they understand the cost: many passages in the Quran and the hadith must be rejected. After all, the Quran came down directly from Allah through Gabriel, so says traditional theology. So how can Islam reform? But reform it must. It can start by rewriting classical fiqh (interpretations of law). Again, though, that would mean leaving behind the Quran and Muhammad's Sunnah (path or example). How can the legal hierarchy do this?
- Since Islamic law cannot be reformed without doing serious damage to original and authentic Islam, a second plan must play out. Shariah must never spread around the world. At least that much is clear and achievable, unless the Archbishop of Canterbury has his way.
- One last point, which I wish were not necessary.
- In Islam, it's impossible to leave religion out of a discussion on laws for society. One tack that polemicists take in defending Shariah is to go directly to the Old Testament and its severe punishments. In reply, however, Christians honor and revere the Old Testament as inspired by God in its own era, and they can learn timeless truths from it, but they also believe that Jesus Christ has fulfilled this sacred text. Therefore, people no longer have to be stoned to death for a sin like adultery, for example. We do not treat sexual sins as crimes deserving prison, lashing, or execution. One of the reasons that we all sense that these Islamic punishments are excessive is that Christianity has filled the globe. New Testament Christianity, when properly understood and followed, offers humanity dignity and forgiveness.
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James M. Arlandson can be reached at jamesmarlandson@hotmail.com. This article first appeared in American Thinker on 16 Feb, 2008.
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Name: jorge
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 14:51:09 -0700
Comment
Islam on Human Rights The other day I read a book entitled “Islam for Dummies,” written by an American scholar, Professor Malcolm Clark. It is indeed a praiseworthy effort. He taught in the Department of Religion at Butler University for 30 years. The problem with the author, however, is that he exhibits only superficial understanding of Islamic concepts. He fails to present Islam as a religion which stresses the importance of human rights and incorporates many practices to guarantee them. This is a serious failure in any treatment of Islam which represents itself as balanced. While it is true that the track record of human rights in the majority of Muslim countries is deplorable, this is no more attributable to Islam than abuses within American society are attributable to Christianity. Abuses of human rights are political and social issues. They happen because the perpetrators ignore the just and compassionate provisions given by God through the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). On page 280 of his book, Malcolm Clark states, “Provisions of Islamic law sometimes conflict with human rights and international law in the area of due process.” This is a false statement. Nowhere does Islam conflict with human rights and international law. If by human rights he means the freedom of expression, democracy, choice and conscience, these all are granted in Islam. If he includes within the subject of human rights condoning such practices as homosexuality, then it is true that Islam disallows it. Professor Clark further writes, “While international law requires countries to relate to one another on a basis of peace and reciprocity, ‘Sharia’ according to some interpretations, imposes an obligation on Islamic states to conduct war against non-Islamic states to bring them under the control of Islamic law”. This is simply untrue. The religion of Islam is based in the Qur’an and in the practices of the Prophet of Islam. Time and again, the Qur’an states that there can be no compulsion in religion. The Qur’an says; “for you your religion and for me mine.” The Holy Prophet was never offensive. His nobility of character was legendary. He was a respecter and protector of women and of less privileged members society. It is highly misleading to confuse Islam with the deeds of evil, imperialist Muslim emperors who acted in the name of Islam. Such individuals are a disgrace to Islam and most certainly do not represent it. Islam means peace. Islam is the religion of peace. Any Muslim who violates the principles of peace and sheds the blood of innocent civilians is a terrorist. He cannot be regarded as a true Muslim. The Holy Prophet says that a true Muslim, one who is surrendered to the Will of God, must not hurt anyone. The true meaning of jihad is to struggle against evil within oneself. Obviously, if the safety of life and faith are threatened, they must be defended. In his chapter on human rights, Professor Clark has made a point with which I agree. He writes, “Many Muslim countries deny human rights not only to women and non-Muslims, but also to their own Muslim citizens. Human rights organizations are often harassed in Muslim countries, even when asserting the rights of Muslims, including Islamist groups.” This statement is true. However, when he presents the opinion of a Gallup poll in the spring of 2002 about the attitude of Americans toward Muslims, he fails to make the distinction that this poll concerns Muslims and Muslim countries as opposed to the religion of Islam. It is probably safe to assert that 99 percent of non-Muslim Americans have not studied the Qur’an. Unfortunately, there are also many Muslims who have not studied the Qur’an. It is tragic that so many believers maintain beliefs which have no foundation in the Qur’an. These people cannot substantiate their beliefs within the Qur’an. It is alarming that Professor Malcom, who is a scholar and a professor, should make such gross errors in a published book. He should have been careful to differentiate between Islam itself and Muslim states. There is not a shred of doubt for centuries Muslim emperors have been violating human rights. They have silenced people, incarcerated, killed and exiled their political adversaries. They have exhibited callous cruelty and should be condemned for it. We cannot blame Islam for the fact that these monarchs have denied human rights to women, non-Muslims and even to Muslims. Islam has given all rights to women and to non-Muslims as well. Relative to the equal rights of male and female, Sura Al-e-Imran in the Qur’an says: “And their Lord had heard them (and He said): Lo; I suffer not the work of any worker, male or female to be lost.”(3:195). The Holy Qur’an at different places has stressed much about the respect and equality of women. When the daughters were being buried alive and they were treated as cattle and chattel, Islam stood for the rights of women. In Sura The Confederates the Qur’an says: “And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a glaring sin” (22:58). Then in Sura The Women the Qur’an says: “Do not covet what Allah has given to some of you in preference to others – men have a portion of what they acquire and women have a portion of what they acquire; but ask Allah for His bounty. Allah has knowledge of all things (4:32). There is a full chapter titled “The women” in the Qur’an, which deals with womens’ rights and other concerns. In the last sermon delivered from the Mount of Arafat, the Holy Prophet exhorted the Muslims about the rights of women. The last sermon of the Holy Prophet is the basic charter of human rights. The human rights charter of the United Nations Organization is an offshoot of the last sermon of the Holy Prophet. Sahih Bukhari records a saying of the Holy Prophet; “The whole of a Muslim for another Muslim is inviolable; his blood, his property and his honor.” Not only the Muslims but the non-Muslims have also full protection and all human rights in an Islamic state. Mahmoud Abu-Saud in his book entitled “Concept of Islam” on page 131 writes; “every citizen of Islamic state, whether he is a Muslim or a non-Muslim, has the right to live decently. The state must provide the indigent and needy citizens with ample food, decent clothes, a suitable dwelling and opportunities for education. The government is also responsible for providing work for those who have no jobs.” Islam is a complete code of life and is the religion of state and society. It provides solutions for all problems. It is a religion of humanity and human rights. We should differentiate between Muslims and Islam.
Name: ZuK
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 18:30:32 -0700
Comment
Says Jorge: "Nowhere does Islam conflict with human rights and international law. If by human rights he means the freedom of expression, democracy, choice and conscience, these all are granted in Islam." ----- Jorge, Jorgito, mi corazon, you gotta stop smoking that sh*t, mi cielo. Open your eyes. You don't even know your Kitab very well. You say "We should differentiate between Muslims and Islam" THAT ONE is nice. I heard that in Eastern Europe, many times, in a slighltly different version: "Warsaw pact regimes are corrupt, but Socialism is good". Wake up, muchacho. Islam IS the Muslims. There is no ISLAM but the one that there is. But let me tell you something: the sh*t that "implemented Islam" is, is still BETTER (less sh*tty) than it would be if done right by the Book!!!! There is no point in indulging in benevolent readings - Islam is what Muslim make of it.
Name: To: Jorge
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 20:26:03 -0700
Comment
Are you living in another planet? Islam is in direct conflict with so many human rights, its unreal man. Wake up and start doing some critical thinking. Do it about Apostasy, Women's rights, Muhammad being a pedophile and a leader to a gang of thieves..The list is too long man. I really do not know what planet you are living on.
Name: Igor to Jorge
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 20:58:40 -0700
Comment
"We believe that democracy is an infidel-based concept which strives towards glorifying humans and making them into deities. Democracy has no connection to Shariah laws...and even if [Islamic laws] bear some similarities to elections in choosing leaders, this still does not mean that we should follow the false and manmade ideology of democracy that is being practiced today in so-called democratic countries." From Al-Qaida-Palestine Frontier Jihad Brigades: Our Principles and Platform, August 9, 2005 http://www.globalterroralert.com/pdf/0805/qaidapalestine0805-2.pdf ...Can't you just feel the love, Jorge?
Name:
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 21:07:25 -0700
Comment
To "jorge" - Hello! Do you know the state of human rights in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sudan, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Jordan, Yemen,.....??????? Obviously you don't. Say, can you critcize Muhammad as you may Jesus Christ. Nay you can't , for you may be murdered. A simple cartoon can invite murder! Women's right in Islam is nonexisting. The only honor for women in islam is "honor killing". Either you are dumb and daft ,or you are a muslim impersonating as mi spaniardo Jorge the moderno quixote!
Name: Quran and Karl Popper's Critical Rationalism
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 21:59:34 -0700
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Quran and Karl Popper's Critical Rationalism: http://rationalreality.50webs.com/sci.htm
Name: The Quran and Science: A Logical Approach
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 21:59:53 -0700
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The Quran and Science: A Logical Approach: http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9VKKOXjYB4
Name: The Quran and Science Fiction, a Logical Approach
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 22:05:37 -0700
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Islam, like Scientology, only much, much bloodier!
Name:
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 22:07:02 -0700
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and Scienologists don't have to wear beards or worry about farting when they pray.
Name: Ali to Jorge
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Time: 22:26:33 -0700
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What are you smoking Jorge? If you love human rights under sharia go live in Waziristan under Pakistani Talibans and get educated about true islam first hand. It is easy to practise your convenient watered down islam under the rotection of kafir laws. Islam allows slavery, rape of slave girls and infidel captured women, polygamy, pedophilia, wife beating, slaying of infidfe, booty., sharia requires veiling of women, and prohibitd, TV ,movies ,woman trave,,ing alone etc etc.
Name: Islam means "submission to GOD"
Date: Sunday February 17, 2008
Time: 09:22:33 -0700
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Islam means "submission to GOD" that's what Abraham, Moses and Jesus did. Therefore Islam is there since time immemorial.
Name: True meaning of Islam
Date: Sunday February 17, 2008
Time: 09:55:29 -0700
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Islam means sexual apartheid, religious discrimination, violation of human rights, dictatorship, ignorance, illiteracy, superstition, beating of women, killing of apostates, cutting hands and feet, beheading, believing in a cruel god, believing that god is stupid, refutation of logic and science, believing that god is against logic and science, in short, Islam is the worst thing ever happened to mankind.
Name: More about Islam
Date: Sunday February 17, 2008
Time: 10:07:35 -0700
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Moreover, Islam means to believe that you can have sex with 72 Huris in heaven if you pray five times a day, or, even better, kill yourself and as many innocent people as possible in a suicide attack. Oh, did I mention that muslims believe that ants talked to salomo and that the earth was created in a few days? Oh yes, muslims believe that god is as stupid as an ancient illiterate.
Name: What I am
Date: Sunday February 17, 2008
Time: 11:51:23 -0700
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I believe that we must believe in a god who promotes progress and not stagnation, in humanity instead of cruelty, in equality and not discrimination, in science and not superstition, in facts and not stupid believe, in human rights and not sharia. Last but not least I do not believe that god would insult humans (who he created by himself) as pigs or monkeys.
Name: largelytrue
Date: Monday February 18, 2008
Time: 06:28:14 -0700
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On YouTube we can see, with our own eyes, the crimes Muslims commit: -molest dead Chinese women. Search “Jakarta Riots” -cut off clitorises. Search “Female circumcision” -behead children. “Lamentari” -own slaves. “Slavery” -riot and kill in Europe. “The Fruit of Islam in Europe” -stone women. Stoning Death -torture 12 year old wives. Same -murder their daughters. Honor killing -blow up planes, trains and buildings full of working people. 9/11, 7/7, Bali, Madrid, etc. Christians once were barbarians too...long ago. But Muslims commit barbaric acts today -- not all Muslims, but too many. Just as too many Germans supported Nazism with their silent acquiescence, so do most Muslims silently acquiesce in Islam’s current assault against all non-Muslim cultures. Paul Revere didn’t ride through New England shouting “SOME of the British are coming!” during our Revolution. Churchill didn’t rally England by proclaiming, “We must destroy SOME of the Germans!” Mortal threats simply don’t present that way, and it’s absurd and suicidal to posit that “we must not judge all by the actions of a few” when such a clear threat, as Islam is, exists. What did the feckless appeasement of Germany prior to WW2 produce? 60 million dead people. Factually, Islam has been a threat to all non-muslim cultures for a very, very long time: In 1786 Thomas Jefferson reported to Congress what Muslim Ambassador to London Adja said to him to justify the capture of American ships and the murder and enslaving of both crew and passengers: “Islam was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found and that every Muslim slain in these battles was sure to go to Paradise." Alexis de Tocqueville wrote: "I studied the Kuran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad..." In 1899 Winston Churchill wrote: “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it [Islam] had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." Those “fearless warriors” who once fielded armies now hide their faces behind women and children -- and our guaranteed freedoms.
Name: nigar khan
Date: Monday February 18, 2008
Time: 08:33:21 -0700
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TO KNOW THE DANGERS OF ISLAM READ: http://akram.rediffiland.com/blogs/2007/10/06/Read-It-Translate-It-Forward.html http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/english-library/islam-sex01/index.htm AKRAM & NIGARKHAN
Name: Give me a break!
Date: Monday February 18, 2008
Time: 09:54:07 -0700
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Islam means "submission to GOD" that's what Abraham, Moses and Jesus did. Therefore Islam is there since time immemorial. What tripe! If Islam has existed since time immemorial then who needed Mohammed to tell us all about it? Christians and Jews submit to God just as much as Muslims. The big difference is they do it freely without the community standing over them and counting how many times they pray or which people they live with or who their friends are. They don't tell each other that Muslims are bad to have as friends, the way Muslims do about Jews, Christians and all the rest. They don't need to follow shariah to prove it and they don't have to prove themselves to nitwits like you. They don't worship an asteroid (idolatry, if you ask me - isn't that forbidden in Islam?) and they don't worship that devil named allah, who existed long before mohammed and was nothing but the god of the moon. He was a pagan god. You got that? Muslims worship a PAGAN GOD. Understanding Islam is getting tiresome. Posting your screed on every article you read doesn't get your point across. It's why God made the scroll down key.
Name: pmk
Date: Monday February 18, 2008
Time: 10:07:20 -0700
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Multiculturalism and cultural senstivity must be reciprocal in order to have any value. The West is expected to accept Sharia law but Islamic countries are not expected to accept Jewish and Christian customs in their communities. Muslims are allowed to convert non-Muslims but Christians and Jews are expressly forbidden from carrying out any "missionary activity" in a Muslim country. We must treat all Muslims equal to all other citizens but Muslim countries do not reciprocate. Multiculturalism and cultural sensitivity are merely feel-good words for Westerners. They let us think we are high-minded when in reality we are shrinking before jihadists. They let us lie to ourselves about the dangers we face. Oh well, at least we'll die happy.
Name: re: Understanding Islam
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 08:53:52 -0700
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Hey, I must admit that you are soooo enthusiastic with your belief in Islam and in the Quran. However, you are wrong. Quote: "Historically, the Gospel of Saint Barnabas, which was accepted and widely read in the churches, had 'Muhammad' in the exact Arabic form." The truth is that this gospel is a fake written between the 14. and 16. century containing many historical, geographical and theological mistakes (Jesus traveled to Jerusalem per ship, which is not possible because there is no sea there). You can verify here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas that the Gospel of Barnabas is nothing but fake and muslim shit.
Name: BALAM
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 10:05:24 -0700
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I sicerely think that the Arch-Bishop should say his Shahda and leave the poor christians alone. He has been widely rebuked and even by the Honourable Prime Minister. If the arch-bishop had some shame, he should appologise from the christins and especially those suffering for Christ in the Muslim world. He is behaving like a wolf in sheeps clothing. How often he has condemed the Musils for mistreating the Chrisians in the Muslim countries? How often ,he has taken personal interest and felt the pain for the suffering christians , who follow the same Christ Jesus, but do not have the luxury to live in the Lambeth Palace .I come from a Muslim country and i know how painful it is to carry your cross every day and suffer for your faith. I do not think the Arch -Bishop could last long under those conditions. He would be quick to say his Shahada and live happy ever after and wait for 72 virgin in the Islamic Whore-house called Paradise.
Name: re: re: Understanding Islam
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 10:56:36 -0700
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The validity of Islam does not depend on the Gospel of Barnabas or anything else other than the Quran. Gospel of Barnabas is an external evidence. Whether you believe in it or not is up to you. However, the name Muhammad is also mentioned in the Old Testament.
Name: Rerere: Understanding Islam
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 12:06:03 -0700
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The name Muhammad is not mentioned in the bible because it is not arabic. The bible is written in greek or hebraic. If you think that the term paraklet means muhammad in arabic - its wrong too! Paraklet means somebody who pays comfort to others. But its not a name! Moreover, there are many names mentioned in the bible, perhaps hundreds on around thousand pages. Maybe that even my or your name is mentioned in the bible but that does not mean that we prophets. It just means nothing. Do you have any idea how many Johns, Peters and Toms are existing? If everybody claims to be a prophet because of his name than there should be really, really many prophets.
Name: Rightjabs
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 12:44:57 -0700
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TO: Jorge and Understanding Islam <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROPMA">ROPMA</a> Give me a break! said: <blockquote>They don't worship an asteroid (idolatry, if you ask me - isn't that forbidden in Islam?) and they don't worship that devil named allah, who existed long before mohammed and was nothing but the god of the moon. He was a pagan god. You got that? Muslims worship a PAGAN GOD.</blockquote> Which is a long way of saying that: the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the God of Jesus Christ is <b><i>not</i></b> Allah! Woe to you Ishmaelites, you have no covenant.
Name: Rightjabs
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 12:49:33 -0700
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Translation of previous comment: TO: Jorge and Understanding Islam ROPMA http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROPMA Give me a break! said: "They don't worship an asteroid (idolatry, if you ask me - isn't that forbidden in Islam?) and they don't worship that devil named allah, who existed long before mohammed and was nothing but the god of the moon. He was a pagan god. You got that? Muslims worship a PAGAN GOD." Which is a long way of saying that: the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the God of Jesus Christ is NOT Allah! Woe to you Ishmaelites, you have no covenant.
Name: Origin of semitic religions
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 13:35:07 -0700
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I would say that the quran clearly relies on the bible and other sources like gnostic texts and persian and arab traditions. The bible also relies on traditions from outside. For example, Adam means just "human" in the old sumer civilisation (modern Iraq) and many other stories of the bible like garden eden etc. have their origin in mesopotamia. Interestingly, the quran does not know anything about sumer or mesopotamia, instead it always draws directly from the bible with only minor cosmetic changes. By drawing and copying the errors and fictions from the bible, the quran clearly demonstrates that it depends on it and that it is nothing more than fake. There is no knowledge in the quran which cannot be found in the bible, indeed many facts in the quran can only be understood by comparing it with the bible. But there is nothing new about other sources nor about the true origin of many traditions of the bible in the quran.
Name: ZuK
Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008
Time: 21:13:52 -0700
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Paradoxical as it might seem, it tend to agree with Mr. Ibn Khaldun's general conclussion: -------"if both parties are able to create friendships and then meet as friends the situation will be very different and the peace process itself may take on a new momentum and a new meaning."----------- My point here is that Islam will be whatever Muslims will do out of it, as is modern Christianity and Judaism - a literalist implementation of the Biblical law would be impossible today in any modern country (among other things, eating lobster is considered an abomination by the Old Testament.) Christians and Jews just managed to IGNORE the gory and most absurd parts of their religious heritage. So, a friendly contact with Muslim PEOPLE (real people, like the ones this web site reaches out to) will serve as a cathalysis of the same process. And one day, who knows, may be we'll be all mature enough as human beings to throw away all religion for good, and live the immediate wonders of a spirituality not tied to any dogma or superstition. Meine zwei Pfennige.
Name: Allat
Date: Wednesday February 20, 2008
Time: 07:39:06 -0700
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All these arguments - are EXACTLY the reason I left religion._____ IT'S A JOKE!___ Religion is a great big joke on us!_________Especially, whenit's being found that the bible is babble and has NO historical foundation WHATSOEVER!_______And it's even funnier, when you, people, take the jew texts as as history of the world........when they in turn have taken their religious texts from the civilization of ancient Sumer.EXACTLY - word for word__only the names have been changed.____I'd also like to say, WHO DIED AND MADE J-E-H-O-V-A-H god?_______Looking at the picture today, why should the world take the jews word for the origin of things and humans?________Is their view the only valid one? I say, GO and study the Creation Origins of Man, from other sources! ________ At any rate, the bible Genesis is such goobleligook, it doesn't even make sense, it's all mixed up, and goes all over the place and duplicates itself. An example is Genesis, the story starts over at least twice.________And then, when one things that mad mo and his demon cohorts after that took parts of this hebrew made-up-story, and ran with it, make up more things as it went along_________I heard a better story than those!!!!
