between SKM and Harvard Islamist
fanatic Islamist wrote a very lengthy jargonized response to my essay.
He did not rebut a word that I wrote, rather he used vitriolic slurs to
threaten me and tried to prove Quranic divinity with full of unadulterated
gibberish and nonsensical miracles of Quranic numbers. For convenience
of the readers I have shortened his very lengthy letter. Please read his
letter and my subsequent response below.]
Ashiq Zubair (Harvard Islamist) writes:
have published a superb site (www.homa.org)
and I really want to show my appreciation, so can you flippin give
your home address please.
Insolent ignorants like you should be buried at birth or stoned to death. Who
said you have the rights to search for contradictions in the Holy Qu'ran.
I can swear on Allah that this Holy Book is the one and only way to GOD. While
you were idiotically looking for flaws, why did you not search for
miracles and perfection. Believe you me, everything you said was
a whole load of rubbish and in that process you only lost your faith and
your only chance to escape hell fire
I tell you something, you are being so petty as you cannot even understand
symbolic and ambiguous remarks. Use your brain, If Allah made everything
so obvious in the Quran and make explicit statements, how the hell can
he insert all the miracles and wonders of the Quran. Simply, God
has given us the Knowledge and Understanding and as vice-gerents we can
decide to use this for good or bad, as we have free will, so the only
way a true follower will gain Takwah (belief) is through exploring the
hidden implications in the Qu'ran. And I feel like crying to realise the
state of this present day, where people who should be promoting the glorious
religion are laughing and joking humourously about the The Big BOSS (Malick,
Allah). It is no surprise though because it is predicted in the Quran
that towards the End of the World people will laugh at the one to be worshipped.
your stupid assumptions are merely mirroring your uniform hatred towards
our one true religion. First of all,
have made the Qur'an easy to remember" (Qur'an, 54:22)
only suggests the Quran's inimitability in that even a six year old can
memorise the Holy Qu'ran without a single mistake. So, how many people
do you know, know the whole Bible by heart, or the whole Torah by heart.
This allows these holy scriptures to be hidden from the world without
notice as no one can rewrite another one from memory. But if this was
to happen to a Quran, how many thousands can rewrite the Quran, and how
can you make changes without being noticed? So, I have to say that the
Quran itself is only said to be easy to memorise, but the archaic language
itself is much harder to interpret. So, don't you think in the process
of defining the Quran, that people make mistakes, after all they are only
humans and not God. So, it is these mistakes that you take to granted
and ignorantly criticise The Creator.
you take the Earth and the Heavens, they are symbolic to each other as
for the humans living now, Earth is of equivalence to Heaven, so it is
the same principal that is taken in the Quran to say that
it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is
We Who are steadily expanding it. "(Qur'an, 51:47)
this is implicitly suggesting the expansion of the Universe. People like
you only look at explicit meanings, just imagine if God said "we
are steadily expanding the Universe", then don't you think people
1400 years ago would have had the knowledge and what will become of us
then, there will simply be an imbalance, so God knew that by keeping it
implicit, only modernised era would be able to identify the subtlety.
I clearly did not know you were a person of the Past.
another example, one of the properties of seas that has only recently
been discovered is related in a verse of the Qur'an as follows:
has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between
them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
a physicist from Harvard University, I luckily have the knowledge to understand
that this property of the seas, that is, that they meet and yet do not
intermix, has only very recently been discovered by oceanographers. Because
of the physical force called "surface tension," the waters of
neighbouring seas do not mix. Caused by the difference in the density
of their waters, surface tension prevents them from mingling with one
another, just as if a thin wall were between them.
is interesting that, during a period when there was little knowledge of
physics, and of surface tension, or oceanography, this truth was revealed
in the Qur'an.
are many more miracles which I will send you that some of my University
research Students found out. And here is another peace of miracle, upto
11 scientists who graduated from my Uni, have converted to Islam due to
the miracles that they uncovered.
are some examples:
number 19 is numerologically encoded in verses. This number is stressed
in the words of the Qur'an: "There
are nineteen in charge of it." (Qur'an, 74:30), and is encoded
in various places in the Book. Some examples of this can be listed as
The Formula consists of 19 letters.
Qur'an consists of 114 (19 x 6) Suras.
57 (19x3) Letter Qaf
The total of the first 19 figures in the Pascal triangle is 38 (19 x 2).
Pascals triangle is an arithmetical one used in algebra
and probability calculations.
total of the first 19 numbers in the Pascal triangle is 57 (19 x 3).
total of the first 19 figures is a multiple of 19.
total of the first 19 numbers is a multiple of 19.
connection between the number 19 and the Pascal triangle with regard to
the revelation sequence of the Qur'anic verses
REPETITIONS IN THE QUR'AN
from the miraculous characteristics of the Qur'an which we have looked
into so far, it also contains what we can term "mathematical miracles."
There are many examples of this fascinating Qur'anic aspect. One example
of this is the number of repetitions of certain words in the Qur'an. Some
related words are surprisingly repeated the same number of times. Below
is a list of such words and the number of repetitions in the Qur'an.
the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is
the same: i.e.
of Sperm (nutfah) 12
half formed lump of flesh (mudghah) 3
the best one is
NUMEROLOGICAL CALCULATIONS (ABJAD) IN THE QUR'AN
you know, every letter in the Arabic alphabet has a numerical (gematrical)
value according to many line through researches. In other words, in Arabic
every letter stands for a number. A number of calculations can be made
from this basis. These are referred to as numerological (abjad) calculations
or "hisab al-jumal." Muslims who took advantage of the fact
that every letter of the alphabet represents a number have used this in
a number of fields. Ilm'ul Jafr is one of these.
is the science of foretelling what is likely to happen in the future.
One of the methods employed by people who engage in this is to compare
symbolic forms and letters' numerological values. The main difference
and "jafr" methods
is that the former refers to what has already taken place and the latter
to what is likely to take place in the future.
method of calculation is a form of writing which goes back several centuries
and which was widely used before the revelation of the Qur'an. Everything
which happened in Arab history was written down by attributing numerical
values to letters thus the date of every event was recorded. These dates
were obtained by adding up the particular numerical values of every letter
certain verses of the Qur'an are examined in the light of the "abjad"
method, we see that a number of dates emerge which are fully in accordance
with the meanings of those verses. When we see that things referred to
in these verses actually happened on the dates obtained by this method,
we understand that there is a secret indication regarding those events
in the verses. (Allah knows best.)
The 1969 Moon Landing is Indicated in the Qur'an
Hour has drawn near and the moon has split. (Qur'an, 54:1)
Arabic word "inshaqqa"
(split) used in the above verse is derived from the word "shaqqa,"
which can also be used to mean "causing something to rise, ploughing
or digging the soil":
we can see, the word "shaqqa"
in the above verse is not being used in the sense of "dividing into
two" but of "slicing through the soil, reaping various crops."
When evaluated in this sense, the meaning of the word "shaqqa"
in the expression "the moon
has split" (Qur'an, 54:1) can also be seen to be
referring to the 1969 moon landing and the studies performed on the moon
land. (Allah knows best.) In fact, there is another very important indication
here: Some of the "abjad"
values of certain words in this verse in Surat al-Qamar also point to
the figure 1969.
important point which needs to be stressed in this method of calculation
is the likelihood of producing very large or irrelevant numbers. Despite
the probability of a relevant number emerging being exceedingly small,
it is striking that such a clear figure should result.
Hour [has drawn near] and the moon has split.
1390, Gregorian: 1969
1969, American astronauts carried out research on the Moon, dug the soil
up with various pieces of equipment, split it and carried specimens back
must, however, make it clear that the splitting of the Moon is of course
one of the miracles given to our Prophet (saas) by Allah. This miracle
is revealed thus in a hadith:
people of Mecca asked Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed
them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain.
above miracle is the splitting of the Moon revealed in the verse. However,
since the Qur'an is a Book that addresses all times, one may think of
this verse as referring to the exploration of the Moon in our own day.
(Allah knows best.)
how did Allah know that Neil Armstrong was going to land on the Moon in
1969. Please dont raise the issue of coincidence, or explicitness. Simply,
even coincidences has a value and Quran has far too many miracles that
you cannot ever say that they are coincidences.
according a critical Thinker, James Cracknell (UK), another miraclewhich
is far too good to be true was discovered. You
clearly know the 9/11 incident and according to the Quran, on the
9th Chapter, 11th Verse it says,
we sent our punishment during the day, the townspeople were unnoticeably
playing" (Surah 7, 98) (chapter 9, 11)
the definition of the surah title "Al- Araf" is THE HEIGHTS
or WALL OF ELEVATION.
you analyse this in a enhanced way, you can conclude that while a serious
punishment was sent during daytime (3:00 pm), people in the twin towers
were gambling and exchanging trades and shares ( a form of game : implicitly).
this enough for you to be convinced, please the Quran has no errors as
it is the word of God, and it is just us humans who are full of errors.
Our mind is a contraversial feature that is far too complex and it secludes
us into many tricks and treasuries. It is a law of Pete Norfolk that "
Whatever a human mind conceils and believes, it can achieve." So
if finding flaws is what you want from the Quran, then you will always
find flaws. Same way if you want to find miracles you will always find
miracles. But clearly the miracles can easily outnumber the false assumptions.
my brother please be kind to my religion and do not wihtout full evidence
make criticisms about my religion.
if i had said anything harsh, which is a lot, it was just that I was too
stunned at your humour.
again, if I have made mistakes in these statements then Allah knows best.
Insolent ignorants like you should be buried at birth or stoned to
death. Who said you have the rights to search for contradictions
in the Holy Qu'ran. I can swear on Allah that this Holy Book is the one
and only way to GOD. While you were idiotically looking for
flaws, why did you not search for miracles and perfection. Believe
you me, everything you said was a whole load of rubbish and in that
process you only lost your faith and your only chance to escape hell fire.
Your above threat to kill somebody you even do not know tells me that
you are an al-Qaeda terrorist living in the US in disguise of a foreign
student. The belief system of Quran existing in you matches the belief
system of al-Qaeda terrorists. Only a true Islamic terrorist can have
such blind belief in the Qurana man made book having unlimited errors
and contradictions in science, history, ethics, laws, philosophy, etc.
In the post 9/11 periodAmerica can not have the pleasure of keeping
such killer terrorist like you in the soil of America. Therefore,
I have immediately given your name, email address and Harvard address
to FBI and other US intelligence. You are under very high powered microscope
now. Hopefully, your days of sending threatening messages will be
By saying that Quran said about 9/11
you are admitting and supporting 9/11s horrendous terrorism. Therefore
you should be arrested as soon as possible.
Quran foretold human landing in the
moon is utter nonsense and your wishful dream only. Could you tell me
why Allah has chosen some kaffirs to land in the Moon? Why could not He
give Muslims (some mullahs) that opportunity to land in the Moon?
did not mention one single comment of mine which is wrong or how it was
wrong. How could you make such a nonsensical comments about my write ups?
If you call somebody mad you must give reasons why you are calling him
mad, isnt it? I urge you to give me
just one thing that I committed an error.
ludicrous explanations of Quranic number games to prove Quranic
miracles are utter nonsense and mere expression of islamists desperately
idiotic quest only to fool people. These number games in Quran are
pure and unadulterated hogwash. These are your voodoo miracles.
Only some retarded brains can wishfully discover this nonsense and if
you want, you can discover such nonsense from any ordinary book. Your
quest to prove voodoo miracles in Koran can be compared with this parable
I am going to narrate below for you:
day a gullible man asked one drunk man about the shape of the earth, shape
of the universe, and creation of our universe! The
drunken man remained silent but he suddenly took his bottle of whisky
out of his pocket and drank all of it. Then he dropped the empty bottle
over the street which was rolling down hill to the slippery ground down
to the corner of the street. Then the drunken man shouted at the man very
loudly and disappeared.
are the findings: The drunken mans emptied bottle indicated
the universe originated from the space, rolling bottle indicated earth
is round and everything in the universe are rolling continuously, shouting
indicated the big-bang theory, bottle ended in the corner indicated doomsday.
Do you see how much miracle one can extract from this behavior of
a drunken mad man? Your finding of miracles in Koran is sillier than this
I sent your number games to some of my friendsthis is what
one of them said:
that the Quran is full of 19, can we ask this Harvard Professor how this
number help mankind or does any good to humanity? How is this
number going to change the conduct of the Muslims? How is this number going
to impact the world? Is this number going to increase Muslims' worth and
have intentionally distorted Quranic verses (51:47 and 54:1) only to suit
your ludicrous claim. For this Quranic distortion only, some Mullahs
may tempt to kill you by stoning. Here are the English translations
of these two verses by Maulana Yusuf Ali.
power and skill did we construct the firmament for it is We Who create
the vastness of space.
did you find here We are steadily expanding? Verse is saying about
vastness of the space. This vastness of space is seen by bare eyes and
even a cave man can say that space is a vast open area. Does it take a
divine God to tell this?
hour (of judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
told you split means to cultivate or digging soil? Are you out of your
mind? Is that what Harvard University has taught you? Split or asunder
means to separate or divide some object end to end into two different
parts. Allah will burn you in the hell
fire for this clear distortion of Quran.
excuse of so called allegory is simply nonsense. Please tell me here which
one is allegory and why? Here you go:
2:193- Fight them on until there is no more
tumult and religion becomes that of Allah
2:256- There is no compulsion in religion
8:12- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite
ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
9:5 reads: "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them"
Zubair could you tell us which one is allegory and which one is
not allegory among the above a few verses? Give reasons why you call
love to play number games? Okay, here are some mathematical errors
in the Quran.
and 4:176 state the Qur'anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is
leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will
receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3
for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the
wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second
example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then
they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters,
4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.
these verses above one can see the total property after adding all distributed
parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become
more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come? A gross mathematical
errors, is'nt it?
Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years (?):
Verily a day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years
of your reckoning.
To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years
of your rekoning
The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof
is Fifty thousands years. So, which one is it ? Is the day of Allah
equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?
Man is Created From Clotted blood?
Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD
then fashioned We the clot a little lump (fetus), fashioned We
the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then
produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators.
translations of the Quran read: Jamaat Raokto thaykay Manoosh
baniecchi And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout
Quran-75:38: Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned
Quran-96:2: Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
serious scientific problems here:
blood clot can not grow into anything. This idea came from the Greeks.
Aristotle erroneously believed that humans are originated from the action
of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect
assumption. The Qurans assertion on the clot (alaqa)
is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely
no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation
in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in
which case the clotted blood which is seen to emerge (much of which comes
from the mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore,
if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop
any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarriage.
Since Prophet Muhammad had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible
that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.
science tells us that the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation
from conception to the birth; hence there are no hard-and-fast boundaries
of stages as the Quran described. The Quran described
4 stages which match exactly with Galenic description of the development
of the human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).
of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists
including Prof. Moore of Canada,
the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same
tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles
begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran
tells us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we human have is laid
down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthened
with calcium) right into ones teenage years. So it would
be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop
at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The
idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely
wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galens
hypothesis. The link is relevant, I suggest you to go through the text
if you have the time
the idea of saying: made into bones and clothed the bones with
muscle came from the technique of making animal statues out
of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod
or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely
a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description
of a layman. Please tell me how could
a creator do this mistake?
Let me ask you some
1. Why Muslims always
need some certifications from some western infidels about Prophet Muhammad?
2. What is the definition
of Merciful and Compassionate? Please tell me why you call
Allah and Muhammad Merciful and Compassionate? How come any killer could
be called Merciful or compassionate? Do you know that Prophet Muhammad
killed human being himself and he got many of his enemies assassinated
3. Please tell me
who is actually Allah? Is not the pagan God Habul is actually called Allah?
Why did Muhammad take pagan God Habul and called him Allah the creator?
Please give me at least one strong/incontrovertible/valid point why
people should consider Allah as the creator of this universe!
4. Could you please
give me some proofs that that Pagan God Allah is the real creator?
5. Finally, please
tell me if you think that any divine God will ever ask human to kill another
6. Will your elder
brother or your own father tell you to kill some people?
7. Was the God of
Muhammad weaker than your father who is mere human?
8. You are claiming
that you are physicist from Harvard University. Could you tell me what
physics did you learn from your Quran?
Quran was written
by man, everything in Quran was copied from other religions and some great
Arab poets helped him formulate this ridiculous Kitab called Quran. People
like you are just stupid to believe it as the divine book, even though
you can not show me even one single verse which could be taken as divine.
Quran was copied from the poetry of famous Arab poet named Zyad and other
Arab poets. Thanks.
Syed Kamran Mirza
Zubairs 2nd response:
December 21 2004
know let me tell you something, you make me laugh from head to toes, thinking
I am a terrorist!! Thats a good one bro. You are smart arent you. Let
me tell you something, you are even more guiltier for disgracing a religion,
so whos in trouble.
also, the only reason why you disagree with the Quran is cos, it is stated
in the Quran that If you examine Islam, you will come to conclusion that
it is a false religion.
don't we agree to something, you can keep your beliefs to yourself, and
I will keep my beliefs to myself. That is a moral thing to do.
I am really sorry if I sad anything wrong, the only reason I said things
earlier on was cos I am a really religious 12 year old, and it really
pissed me off to see people cus my religion thats y I disguised as an
adult, so you will hear my message.
if you want to believe that I AM A TERRORIST thats you. You can go tell
all the agencies but in the end it will be you who is in trouble, cos
you cant use a mere email message to suspect some1.
a GOOD CHRISTMAS, since you didnt have an EID MUBARAK.
not make me laugh!!!!
you even know where I live, besides I am a flippin 12 year old who is
living in Sri Lanka. Do you really want to be behind bars for giving false
evidence, you idiot. When they discover my true identity, they will arrest
you not me.
crack me up. Bye!!!!
so called Harvard Professor was a fake and deceitful individual who is
obviously a pathological liar. He never replied me any further.]