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Wilders Speech to House of Lords: Will London Remain London or Become Londonistan?

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What will BBC broadcaste in forty years from now? Will it still be: "This is London" or "This is Londonistan"? Will it bring us hope or signal the values of Mecca and Medina?


Speech House of Lords, London, Friday the 5th of March 2010

Thank you. It is great to be back in London. And it is great that this time, I got to see more of this wonderful city than just the detention centre at Heathrow Airport.

Today I stand before you, in this extraordinary place. Indeed, this is a sacred place. This is, as Malcolm always says, the mother of all Parliaments, I am deeply humbled to have the opportunity to speak before you.

Thank you Lord Pearson and Lady Cox for your invitation and showing my film 'Fitna'. Thank you my friends for inviting me.

I first have great news. Last Wednesday city council elections were held in the Netherlands. And for the first time my party, the Freedom Party, took part in these local elections. We participated in two cities. In Almere, one of the largest Dutch cities. And in The Hague, the third largest city; home of the government, the parliament and the queen. And, we did great! In one fell swoop my party became the largest party in Almere and the second largest party in The Hague. Great news for the Freedom Party and even better news for the people of these two beautiful cities.

And I have more good news. Two weeks ago the Dutch government collapsed. In June we will have parliamentary elections. And the future for the Freedom Party looks great. According to some polls we will become the largest party in the Netherlands. I want to be modest, but who knows, I might even be Prime Minister in a few months time!

Ladies and gentlemen, not far from here stands a statue of the greatest Prime Minister your country ever had. And I would like to quote him here today: "Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. No stronger retrograde force exists in the World. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step (...) the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." These words are from none other than Winston Churchill wrote this in his book 'The River War' from 1899.

Churchill was right.

Ladies and gentlemen, I don't have a problem and my party does not have a problem with Muslims as such. There are many moderate Muslims. The majority of Muslims are law-abiding citizens and want to live a peaceful life as you and I do. I know that. That is why I always make a clear distinction between the people, the Muslims, and the ideology, between Islam and Muslims. There are many moderate Muslims, but there is no such thing as a moderate Islam.

Islam strives for world domination. The Quran commands Muslims to exercise jihad. The Quran commands Muslims to establish shariah law. The Quran commands Muslims to impose Islam on the entire world.

As former Turkish Prime Minister Erbakan said: "The whole of Europe will become Islamic. We will conquer Rome".

Libyan dictator Gaddafi said: "There are tens of millions of Muslims in the European continent today and their number is on the increase. This is the clear indication that the European continent will be converted into Islam. Europe will one day soon be a Muslim continent".

Indeed, for once in his life, Gaddafi was telling the truth. Because, remember: mass immigration and demographics is destiny!

Islam is merely not a religion, it is mainly a totalitarian ideology. Islam wants to dominate all aspects of life, from the cradle to the grave. Shariah law is a law that controls every detail of life in a Islamic society. From civic and family law to criminal law. It determines how one should eat, dress and even use the toilet. Oppression of women is good, drinking alcohol is bad.

I believe that Islam is not compatible with our Western way of life. Islam is a threat to Western values. The equality of men and women, the equality of homosexuals and heterosexuals, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech, they are all under pressure because of islamization. Ladies and gentlemen: Islam and freedom, Islam and democracy are not compatible. They are opposite values.

No wonder that Winston Churchill called Adolf Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' "the new Quran of faith and war, turgid, verbose, shapeless, bur pregnant with its message". As you know, Churchill made this comparison, between the Koran and Mein Kampf, in his book 'The Second World War', a master piece, for which, he received the Nobel Prize in Literature. Churchill's comparison of the Quran and 'Mein Kampf' is absolutely spot on. The core of the Quran is the call to jihad. Jihad means a lot of things and is Arabic for battle. Kampf is German for battle. Jihad and kampf mean exactly the same.

Islam means submission, there cannot be any mistake about its goal. That's a given. The question is whether we in Europe and you in Britain, with your glorious past, will submit or stand firm for your heritage. We see Islam taking off in the West at an incredible pace. Europe is Islamizing rapidly. A lot of European cities have enormous Islamic concentrations. Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels and Berlin are just a few examples. In some parts of these cities, Islamic regulations are already being enforced. Women's rights are being destroyed. Burqa's, headscarves, polygamy, female genital mutilation, honour-killings. Women have to go to separate swimming-classes, don't get a handshake. In many European cities there is already apartheid. Jews, in an increasing number, are leaving Europe.

As you undoubtedly all know, better then I do, also in your country the mass immigration and islamization has rapidly increased. This has put an enormous pressure on your British society. Look what is happening in for example Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and here in London. British politicians who have forgotten about Winston Churchill have now taken the path of least resistance. They have given up. They have given in.

Last year, my party has requested the Dutch government to make a cost-benefit analysis of the mass immigration. But the government refused to give us an answer. Why? Because it is afraid of the truth. The signs are not good. A Dutch weekly magazine - Elsevier - calculated costs to exceed 200 billion Euros. Last year alone, they came with an amount of 13 billion Euros. More calculations have been made in Europe: According to the Danish national bank, every Danish immigrant from an Islamic country is costing the Danish state more than 300 thousand Euros. You see the same in Norway and France. The conclusion that can be drawn from this: Europe is getting more impoverished by the day. More impoverished thanks to mass immigration. More impoverished thanks to demographics. And the leftists are thrilled.

I don't know whether it is true, but in several British newspapers I read that Labour opened the door to mass immigration in a deliberate policy to change the social structures of the UK. Andrew Neather, a former government advisor and speech writer for Tony Blair and Jack Straw, said the aim of Labour's immigration strategy was, and I quote, to "rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date". If this is true, this is symptomatic of the Left.

Ladies and gentlemen, make no mistake: The left is facilitating islamization. Leftists, liberals, are cheering for every new shariah bank being created, for every new shariah mortgage, for every new islamic school, for every new shariah court. Leftists consider Islam as being equal to our own culture. Shariah law or democracy? Islam or freedom? It doesn't really matter to them. But it does matter to us. The entire leftist elite is guilty of practising cultural relativism. Universities, churches, trade unions, the media, politicians. They are all betraying our hard-won liberties.

Why I ask myself, why have the Leftists and liberals stopped to fight for them? Once the Leftists stood on the barricades for women's rights. But where are they today? Where are they in 2010? They are looking the other way. Because they are addicted to cultural relativism and dependent on the Muslim vote. They are dependent on mass-immigration.

Thank heavens Jacqui Smith isn't in office anymore. It was a victory for free speech that a UK judge brushed aside her decision to refuse me entry to your country last year. I hope that the judges in my home country are at least as wise and will acquit me of all charges, later this year in the Netherlands.

Unfortunately, so far they have not done so well. For they do not want to hear the truth about Islam, nor are they interested to hear the opinion of top-class legal experts in the field of freedom of expression. Last month in a preliminary session the Court refused fifteen of the eighteen expert-witnesses I had requested to be summoned.

Only three expert witnesses are allowed to be heard. Fortunately, my dear friend and heroic American psychiatrist dr. Wafa Sultan is one of them. But their testimony will be heard behind closed doors. Apparently the truth about Islam must not be told in public, the truth about Islam must remain secret.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm being prosecuted for my political beliefs. We know political prosecution to exist in countries in the Middle East, like Iran and Saudi Arabia, but never in Europe, never in the Netherlands.

I'm being prosecuted for comparing the Quran to 'Mein Kampf'. Ridiculous. I wonder if Britain will ever put the beliefs of Winston Churchill on trial... Ladies and gentlemen, the political trial that is held against me has to stop.

But it is not all about me, not about Geert Wilders. Free speech is under attack. Let me give you a few other examples. As you perhaps know, one of my heroes, the Italian author Oriana Fallaci had to live in fear of extradition to Switzerland because of her anti-Islam book 'The Rage and the Pride'. The Dutch cartoonist Nekschot was arrested in his home in Amsterdam by 10 police men because of his anti-Islam drawings. Here in Britain, the American author Rachel Ehrenfeld was sued by a Saudi businessman for defamation. In the Netherlands Ayaan Hirsi Ali and in Australia two Christian pastors were sued. I could go on and on. Ladies and gentlemen, all throughout the West freedom loving people are facing this ongoing 'legal jihad'. This is Islamic 'lawfare'. And, ladies and gentlemen, not long ago the Danish cartoonist Westergaard was almost assassinated for his cartoons.

Ladies and gentlemen, we should defend the right to freedom of speech. With all our strength. With all our might. Free speech is the most important of our many liberties. Free speech is the cornerstone of our modern societies. Freedom of speech is the breath of our democracy, without freedom of speech our way of life, our freedom, will be gone.

I believe it is our obligation to preserve the inheritance of the brave young soldiers that stormed the beaches of Normandy. That liberated Europe from tyranny. These heroes cannot have died for nothing. It is our obligation to defend freedom of speech. As George Orwell said: "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear".

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe in another policy, it is time for change. We must make haste. We can't wait any longer. Time is running out. If I may quote one of my favourite American presidents: Ronald Reagan once said: "We need to act today, to preserve tomorrow". That is why I propose the following measures, I only mention a few, in order to preserve our freedom:

First, we will have to defend freedom of speech. It is the most important of our liberties. In Europe and certainly in the Netherlands, we need something like the American First Amendment.

Second, we will have to end and get rid of cultural relativism. To the cultural relativists, the shariah socialists, I proudly say: Our Western culture is far superior to the Islamic culture. Don't be affraid to say it. You are not a racist when you say that our own culture is better.

Third, we will have to stop mass immigration from Islamic countries. Because more Islam means less freedom.

Fourth, we will have to expel criminal immigrants and, following denaturalisation, we will have to expel criminals with a dual nationality. And there are many of them in my country.

Fifth, we will have to forbid the construction of new mosques. There is enough Islam in Europe. Especially since Christians in Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia are mistreated, there should be a mosque building-stop in the West.

And last but not least, we will have to get rid of all those so-called leaders. I said it before: Fewer Chamberlains, more Churchills. Let's elect real leaders.

Ladies and gentlemen. To the previous generation, that of my parents, the word 'London' is synonymous with hope and freedom. When my country was occupied by the national-socialists, the BBC offered a daily glimpse of hope in my country, in the darkness of Nazi tyranny. Millions of my fellow countrymen listened to it, underground. The words 'This is London' were a symbol for a better world coming soon.

What will be broadcasted forty years from now? Will it still be "This is London"? Or will it be "This is Londonistan"? Will it bring us hope? Or will it signal the values of Mecca and Medina? Will Britain offer submission or perseverance? Freedom or slavery? The choice is yours. And in the Netherlands the choice is ours.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will never apologize for being free. We will and should never give in. And, indeed, as one of your former leaders
said: 'We will never surrender'.

Freedom must prevail, and freedom will prevail.

Thank you very much.

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written by vbv , March 05, 2010
The british ass-holes are tired of life ,especially their politicians that they want a quick passport to Allah's whorehouse . What else?
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written by patricia hookham , March 05, 2010
two other things that should be eliiminated is multiculturallism and job quotas for minorities, They may be minorities in our countries but the white culture is the minority in the world and we are giving our history and legacy away so that our children will not know the true spirit and accomplishments that we have had in a world that has never seen or accomplished as much anywhere else.. We should be able to stand up and shout our pride over the freedoms and riches that we have bequeathed to the other civilizations that have only copied our culture in the last half century. Every minority has its own continent and if they cannot grow it themsleves ad prosper why should we give it away to them in our own countries.
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Muslim Versus Christian
written by Kazi Abul Firoz , March 06, 2010
Islamic politics create divions within Muslim community. Divisions create hates and violences. Violences give rise to bloodshed. Bloodshed in the name of Islam misleads non-Muslims to consider Islam as the ideology of violences. It is true that some ancient Arabic and African tribal Beduwin and Wahabi brutal cultures and traditions were included into Islam. Those Beduwin and Wahabi ancient uncivilized cultures are followed by Wahabi motivated narrow minded Islami groups such as Taleban, Al-Qaeda and their supporters of different Islamic parties. In this world, Christians and Jews are easily taking chances of the violences created by Islamic extremists. But Islam does not mean Muslim and Muslim does not mean Islam. Islam is the ideology which includes Al-Ehudy (Jews), Krestan, Al-Musolman etc. Muslim has more than 70 sects. Only one group of Muslims are making violences that they want to isolate Muslim dominated countries from Christian dominated countries. But there are millions of Christians who also want the same thing that they want to be isolated from Muslim countries. So, Muslim Talebans are not very much different from those Christian Talebans. Muslims should moderate Muslim Talebans and Christians should moderate Christian Talebans.
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Kazi Abul Firoz
written by duh_swami , March 06, 2010
Is there any sect of Islam that rejects the Quran and all its contents? Is there one sect that rejects 9:5, 9:29, 5:33, 8:39, 47:4, 8:12, 9:112, 8:65, 9:38, 2:193, 8:5
4:94, 4:100, 4:04, 2:216, 4:95, 9:111, 47:33...Or any of these?
Which sect rejects the words of Allah?

If you add those up, do you get Islam the Religion of Peace?
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London Is No More
written by Truth Detector , March 06, 2010
From here it seems that London is no more since many have embraced cruelty, violence, and Allah of Islam. So, yes, London is actually Londonstan.
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@patricia hookham
written by karan , March 06, 2010
Well then Britian should return the money it stole from India and Pakistan and bangladesh and openly call those mad rascals who captured these states ..... as perpetrators of genocide and carnage ............lets not talk about copying superior cultures etc ......while you think of your children .........did you ancestors give 2 hoots about butchering other people ...their children and their children and condemning them to a future of poverty and misery ........just 200 yrs back india and china accounted for 80% of world GDP .......you see the wealth you enjoy has been stolen by your fore-fathers from far of cultures whom you today accuse to be inferior than yours.......i hate islam and acknowledge british insecurity but i will not accept this "always more pious than you" non-sense .....yes i do know today the west is best on many issues and i appreciate it for what it is .......but you speak as if ....this has been the norm throughout ...human-kind's existence .......thats just bullshit ......dont confuse islamic extremism with all cultures alien to yours.........some cultures have been superior to yours ....a fact ....but while your culture has evolved ..they are still ....work in progress ......and you should help them get out of this rut .........this holier than thou attitude ...doesnt scare anyone ...and no one gives a damn ..about it ....
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@Kazi Abul Firoz
written by para , March 06, 2010
Its obvious you are trying to save the skin of islam and either you are an absolute hypocrite or a person who knows he is destined to leave islam ......but is still willing to give islam the benefit of doubt.Let me tell you on your face .....humanity has a problem with MUHAMMED ...not sects after him ..........MUHAMMED is the cancer ......cutting 1 arm or 1 leg will not solve the problem.I hope you understand ......i love a muslim but hate islam . Confused ??? i hate cancer .....but not the people suffering from it .
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god bless greet wilders
written by para , March 06, 2010
This man is a true hero ...........non-muslims ........we must love this guy ..and pray for him .......he is our voice ...........our hero .........god bless ........
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To Patricia Hookham
written by steadyfriend , March 06, 2010
In support of karan above, may I add when Englishmen wore animal skins and your mad queen Boadicea rode naked on horseback, India was at the pinnacle of achievement and progress during the Golden Age of the Gupta Empire. Trade and commerce, poetry and literature, studies in all fields, ship building and armed forces were at their peak. That muslim invasions soon thereafter weakened India is another matter. But the fact remains India was far, far advanced at the time compared to Britain and this has been acknowledged by British historians too.
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Bodacious ain't it
written by duh_swami , March 06, 2010
From above post...mad queen Boadicea rode naked on horseback...These were the good old days, I hope they return...For some strange perverted reason naked women on horseback appeals to me...

Yeah but she rode side saddle...But it's a fact that back then Brits were brutes...Gangs of guys in armor rode about the countryside looking for other guys in armor to fight with...This is the way it is with all martial societies...
It got started in the cave man days when one bunch of grunts decided to beat up another bunch of grunts...Humans have been doing it ever since...But their is only one society that practices it due to religious scripture, and that's Islam...
Many kufr actor uppers hide behind their religion to disguise their dastardly deeds...Islam does not hide behind religion, but brag on any dastardly deeds as the righteous wrath of Allah, and a holy act...





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written by Tony , March 06, 2010
chuck out Gordon Brown - lets have Geert Wilders in Number 10 !
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To duh_swami
written by steadyfriend , March 06, 2010

"...mad queen Boadicea rode naked on horseback...These were the good old days, I hope they return...For some strange perverted reason naked women on horseback appeals to me... "

lol, duh_swami ! smilies/wink.gif

are you in the UK?
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@ greet wilders - our hero ........
written by karan , March 06, 2010
isnt this man .......our voice .......lets .......make sure .......no thrid class muslim thug can touch him ........we will defend what we love ..........and WE LOVE THIS LION
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are you in the UK?
written by duh_swami , March 06, 2010
Steadyfriend...No I'm an American kufr...
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written by Yorkshire Miner , March 06, 2010
karan
as a Brit I get rather irritated about handing back all this so called wealth we have stolen from the colonies etc. Most of the wealth of Britain was squeezed out of the working classes during the last two centuries and most of the time under conditions worse than were experienced in slave plantations. let me give you a couple of examples. In 1838 26 children drowned in a coal mine in Yorkshire when a stream overflowed into the mine the age of the children were from 4 to 16 yes you read that right 4 years old and working in a coal mine. When I was 15 I left school to work in the mines have you tried working on your knees shovelling 17 tons of coal every day. The exploitation of the British working class produced the cheap goods that the British used to trade with to bring back to Britain the wealth of the orient. The Chinese are doing the same now as the Brits did in the 19th and 20th century. India is not far behind. England had been trading with India from 1623. England's involvement in internal Indian politics only stems from 1757 after the battle of Plessey over 130 years later. The main reason this happened is that the Mugal empire was in a state of decomposition and a state of chaos was emerging. War and chaos are not good for trade. The British were heavy handed at times, I am a great fan of Indian history but I would like to place a bet with you. I bet that more Indians died in the couple of years after its independence than died at the hands of the British in the 200 years of British rule after Plessey.

Duh Swami

Nice to know that you are an American first. I am not an American but I get tired of people calling themselves afro- American or Irish American

Deep Regards

Yorkshire Miner
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Let us not forget what the Pope said
written by lw1 , March 06, 2010
In the seventh conversation .... the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. Without descending to details, such as the differnce in treatment accorded to those who have the 'Book' and the 'infidels', he addresses his interlocutors with a startling brusqueness on the CENTRAL question about relationship between religion and violence in general, saying : 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by sword the faith he preached.'
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karan
written by patricia hookham , March 06, 2010
everyone lnows that it is the white mans burden to feed the world and we are doing that. our intellectual property is being taken by the third world. Our corporations are taken valuable jobs and given them to the third world. What else do you want. we educate, raise, and give jobs to immigrants who want a good life in our countries. Why shouldn't we have the addage " best man for the job". Why shouldn't we be able to hear the true history of Islam and how they also went into these countries and raped and pillaged. Why is it the white cultures have to be slammed for a history that wasn't as bad as the islamic one. Political correctness be damned!!!!!!!!
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written by Serendipity , March 06, 2010
@Karan

It is true that the British obtained much wealth from India when they colonised her BUT, unlike the muslims, they did not forcibly Christianise them - and then they left .

As you no doubt know, the Islamic armies constantly invaded India from 700AD, slaughtering, pillaging, enslaving and Islamicising the Hindus and Bhuddists. The wealth was sent back to the Caliphate in the M.E. along with all the females that were captured. The temples of the Indian people were destroyed. It is estimated that 80 million Indians died and this is from reports of muslim chronichlers as well as non muslim historians.

Muslims always bring up British colonisation and slavery but always conveniently forget that their colonisation was much more vast and much more cruel. And, unlike the British, they ingrained an ideology which keeps its followers chained to 7th century Bedouin culture. One only has to look at the countries which were Islamicised to see that muslim countries have the dubious distinction of having the greatest poverty, lack of education and human rights in todays modern world.

Islamic conquest of India only ended when the British came which is why India is doing so much better than the muslim countries that border on her because India took on board many of the British tenets. Thay are not caught in the backward uneducated society that prevails in muslim lands. How well is the 'pure land' of Pakistan and what is now Bangladesh doing economically compared to India? Especially as Pakistan invaded Bangladesh three decades ago and showed the West what Islam does best - slaughter, rape and pillage. 3 million dead - will Islam ever learn?

No wonder Islam is becoming the leper of modern society!

P.S. Give back all the squillions the muslims looted to the countries they conquered. You can't - the caliphs spent it all on harems and armies.
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We need more Geert Wilders
written by rationalist , March 07, 2010
Leftists are the best mates of Islamists. If at all Muslims are advancing in the kaffir lands it is only because of leftist scum-bags. Listen all kafirs, never ever vote for leftists if you really want to save mankind, civilization, and above all democratic values. Let us fight until Islam crawls back into its bloody Meccan hole.
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Master Racist
written by skipper , March 07, 2010
written by patricia hookham , March 07, 2010

everyone knows that it is the white mans burden to feed the world and we are doing that.

Wow Patricia Hookham, which century are you living in? Do also own a couple Abyssinian slaves in your household? And I guess your corporation employs those Indic types shipped in from faraway lands for cheap labour too? How grateful they should be that their white master is actually feeding them and clothing them and being gentle with the bullwhip which he uses to train them on good manners and etiquette?!
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democracy?
written by Machmoed , March 08, 2010
Muslim schools must not be allowed according to Geert, but Christian and jewish schools are allowed.

WEIRD..... I think this is bullshit. Every religion has the right to do whatever he likes/believes as long this is within the borders of the law we all agreed to. To me the law is the most precious thing we have…not religions.
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Islam Vs. Christianity
written by To democracy? , March 08, 2010
It's not as simple as one religion Islam Vs. another religion. Islam is a political and social ideology and a very violent one at that. Also there's a big emphasis on this ideology than spirituality in Islam. People of other religions only take spirituality from the religion and not social and political ideologies. That's the difference.
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ToMachmoed The truth is that Islam does not respect any common Law that keep the civil society not even the law of common sense
written by Clement- The Islam- Watch Pastor' , March 08, 2010
You wrote " To me the law is the most precious thing we have…not religions." The question is which Law? since Islam has its law too and is not bound by the law that binds democratic principles which Christians believe in , which is the basis of modern civilisation. So Geert was right all other religions that agree with these human value should remain even if the believe in satanism but Islam should be kicked out.
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constitution law
written by Machmoed , March 08, 2010
The question is which Law?

The law of constitution as we know it today. All laws from scriptures somehow are almost all in the constitution law...certainley the 10 commandments...not killing, not steeling, not lying etc.
The law i believe in sais: there must be freedom in all aspects of life as long it is within the borders of the law.
If a muslim wants to worship allah...go ahead. But if he/she uses apects of religion wich is against the law, he/she should be punnished (for example hatred towards others and threats are crimes). I really don't care what people believe, but they have to believe nobody is above the law. We have to protect what we've got in the west. If muslims want the Sharia-law they can do this in their own muslimcountries. I have no problems with believers whatsoever, but i do have problems with those who threaten my way of life by pointing out to God who's going to punish me........to those i would say...don't be sad...i don't believe God is like that..it is you who believes that.
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law, a Joke.
written by Healer_999 , March 08, 2010
Much of the law we know stems from principle of Golden rule, some thing theology of Islam destroys it to the core.

Another important thing is, Muslims argue that they do not support democracy because laws passed by a Government, which is elected by 50% of electorate, can not be enforced on all people, where as laws made based on koran, which is a word of God, are for all. In simple terms Gods law is superior to Man made laws.

Now, do we understand why democracy is so weak in Islamic countries?
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written by Tanstaafl (JW) , March 08, 2010
How did the subject of Wilder's speech get turned to discuss the sins of the British Empire? Anyone care to discuss the estimated 270 million infidels killed during the 1400 years of Jihad?
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Democracy doesn't exist in islam.
written by Machmoed , March 08, 2010
Now, do we understand why democracy is so weak in Islamic countries?

Democracy in islamic countries? you must be kidding. They all say they are democratic and no-one can say anything about it, without risking jail.....democracy?

With law i don't mean religious laws. Religion is an input and the output is what we have today (Europe)....secularism.
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To Machmoed. Sometimes I wonder how you argue your points
written by Clement- The Islam-Watch Pastor , March 08, 2010
You have agreed with all I have said yet you have not told us why Islam should not be kicked out of the civilised world.
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written by Machmoed , March 09, 2010
You have agreed with all I have said yet you have not told us why Islam should not be kicked out of the civilised world.

Civilised world? You can see if a nation is civilised by it's criminals in jail. To me Islam doesn't belong in the west....so islam must be kicked of the ground of the west. So actually i don't understand your question. In the west it is the constitutionlaw that we have to respect and live by...not other things.
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To Machmoed-Remember
written by Clement- The Islam- Watch Pastor' , March 09, 2010
You remember we started when you said "it is bulshit of Geert to say islam should not be allowed in the west. You said Muslim schools must not be allowed according to Geert, but Christian and jewish schools are allowed.

WEIRD..... I think this is bullshit. Every religion has the right to do whatever he likes/believes as long this is within the borders of the law we all agreed to" but you and I both agreed that islam doest not fit in the west why did you say it was bullshit for Geert to say Islamic schools should not be allowed in the West?
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To Machmoed
written by rationalist , March 09, 2010
Hi Machmoed, there are many Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and other schools in the west. None of them teaches hatred. However, only Islamic schools (madarsas) preach hatred and voilence. This is the reason Islam shouldn't grow anywhere. We therefore require more Geert Wilders to save the world.
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Forbid hatred, encourage democracy.
written by Machmoed , March 10, 2010
True..true. You see...i really don't care what others believe as long the law is respected. If they do not respect the law, they must be banned...not because of islam or judaism or whatever....this is just a matter of perception. It's about respect for the laws of the nation where someone lives in. I do not agree with Geert on this one. If he sais every religious school that exeeds the borders of the law must be forbidden no matter what kind of school, then it's a democratic thought. I agree with everyone who say forbid all kind of institutes that preech hatred. I am on your side on such matters. I want everybody to have the opportunity to design his own life in freedom. For the matter sharia or islam as being the religion of mankind, i feel very sorry for those who believe such nonsense and sharia law in the west....over my dead body. I'm not a fighter but on this one i will be at the front against this syndicat law of bedouins.

I know Geert and he is great. He is not against muslims but against the ideology called islam.
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London to Islamic shit hole
written by Common man , March 13, 2010
Islam is a cripling ideology and only way to survive is more violence and degeneration.
GEET WILDERS will be the most important saviour and respected one, when history will be told to future generations. His name will stand taller than Newton, Einstein or Churchill or Reagan or Abraham Lincon as he defined the mother of all evil and is fighting a great batttle against ISLAM.
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Christian Vs Muslim
written by Fida , November 30, 2011
During Soviet Union time, most of the Muslim countries were in favor Russia. It was dangerous blow to USA and its other capitalist partners. So, USA managed the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In every Muslim countries, USA helped organize Islami parties to kill SECULAR MUSLIMS. USA promised to Islami parties that if they defeat Soviet Union, USA will recognize Islami Caliph system to organize all Muslim countries under one command. The Al-Qaeda was a creation of USA and Osama bin laden was the most respected leader of USA. After the collapse of Soviet Union, USA rejected Islami parties and Al-Qaeda got angry. The result was Twin Tower attack 9/11.

Now, USA came back to those countries where Russia has still hands: Iraq, Lybia. Now, Syria is going to be victims through Turkey. The Western colonial powers show Turkey a big Carrot. But there will be time when Turkey will be as fooled as Al-Qaeda. Now, Islamic parties in Egypt, Tunisia, Lybia are hijacked by USA and its European partners. There will be a time again when these Islami parties will be fooled by the Western countries and again war will start and again the same massacre will occur. The best way is to ISOLATE Europe and the West, and all Muslim countries should come to a single Secular Banner with changed mind of Russia and China.

The way the Western Christians are scandalizing the whole Muslim community is the same way they tried to eliminate their own brothers and sisters of Jews of their own society. All they are doing is what they think is the best to serve God. I saw the Christians of Western countries are dangerous hate criminals and when they find any propaganda they continously spread the information from person to person. This is what their traditions that they also applied in their own society and tried to eliminate their own Jews community but they latter tried to escape the blames by Hitler as scapegoat. Hitler was a popular leader of the Catholic Christians in Europe. Most of the Catholic Christians in Europe still believe that Jews are SINS of their society. You just go to investigate the Synagogues across Europe: you will find that most of the Synagogues have been transformed now as Beer Bar or Disco club by Catholic Christians.

The hates existing in bloods in the Christians in Europe are flowing in different forms in different times. This is what they earned from their forefathers.

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