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Letter to Allah

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To: Allah

Cc: Azhar Grand Imam

From: Ibn Kammuna

Dear Allah, Greeting

I am writing to you because I have to say I am disappointed in your final religion (so you say, but I can’t swear on it).

Look, I said the Shahada a dozen times thinking that will make me a Muslim like you said. Well, excuse my French, this is a bunch of bull. It did not work.

You say what? You want some details… Okay, Allah… you asked for it…

First I tried in the cold of winter to do Wudu. Water was too cold, and I did not like putting water in a Jar and pour on my hands, and so on. I have to say I was very disappointed. The infidels got it much better.  Now, I take a refreshing hot water shower, infidel invention by the way, and that’s the end of that. No nonsense of pouring water to my elbows, etc.

And worse, Allah, I went to the mosque to pray. The stink just about killed me. Those Namazis kept farting in my face, excuse my French again dear. Especially when we bent forward. The Namazis in front of me kept farting left and right. Now, Allah, I could have done better than you in inventing prayer. People can just sit on chairs in their mosques just like civilized infidels. Now, can you tell me what is wrong with that. Then when I went out of the mosque, my good shoes were stolen! You see, Allah, why did you want us to pray shoe-less. This was really annoying, and is a set-up for stealing good shoes, and encourages a black market for shoes as well as creating thieves in our midst. I have to tell you, Allah, you really messed up when you decided the how to of prayer. Anyone could have done a job better than you on this one.

Also, why did you create pigs when we can’t even enjoy their meat? The other day, my infidel neighbor invited me to a meal. It was delicious. The meat was juicy tender loins no one can beat the taste. It was so good I had to ask the host what kind of beef it was. Well, guess what Allah! It was pig meat... super delicious. I just can’t understand you man with all those strange commands about what to eat and what not to eat. You fair even worse when it comes to drinking. Did you not know that drinking Wine and beer in moderation is good for our overall bodily health?

I am not complaining or anything Allah. Its just my frustration with your “super” religion is too much to bear. It’s not just your commands man. It’s your choice for your last prophet too. He was no more than a lowly thug. To be honest with you, Allah, anyone could have done better than you on that front. Did you know that Muhammad was a highway robber. He made a profession out of attacking the commercial livelihood caravans of those poor Meccans. Then when someone criticized him, he sent his henchmen to assassinate the perpetrator. In one day, he annihilated the whole tribe of Bani Qurayza. He beheaded 700 hundred innocent men and took the belongings of the tribe. Guess what he did after that, Allah. I am sure you know. You are all-knowing. He and the early Muslim men raped the Qurayza women. Now, why did you allow him to do that? I have to tell you, when infidels tell us that Muhammad was a bad omen wherever he went, we have to keep our mouths shut, because that is the truth.

Worse yet, your final prophet had no respect for any treaty or anything holy. He broke the Hudaibia treaty many times. He attacked during a sacred month a commercial caravan in his Nakhla raid. He even ordered killing poor Ibn Khatal, not an important person at all, who was holding to the curtains of the holy Ka’ba seeking refuge.

Allah, I have to admit, your prophet stinks. I could have easily chosen a better man than him to be my last prophet. It is true, your last prophet was no more than a bandit and a looter. If it was my choice, I would have chosen an educated man who was kind-hearted. Muhammad was ruthless and evil. I just cannot understand you Allah for so many bad choices when it comes to Islam.

Allah, I am leaving... You should have made better decisions if you wanted people to stick around…

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Allah forbids Sleeping with dogs
written by Jimi , February 23, 2013
The infidel said "Also, why did you create pigs when we can’t even enjoy their meat? The other day, my infidel neig"

Allah created pigs to be test for the Muslims. A test for Muslims to resist. Same with dogs. While infidels find them cute and even sleep with them, a pious Muslim must resist being sucked into enjoying what Allah has forbid. If Muslims don't keep dogs out of Muslim lands, following the prophets example, the next thing you know our women will be sleeping with dogs, like western women.

How immoral can an infidel be? They sleep with dogs.
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Amil
written by abc , February 23, 2013
Good riddance to bad rubbish! Cc that to your mama
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Jimi
written by Fine , February 23, 2013
You are fake Muslim ...

The reason Muhammad forbade Muslims to have dogs is because, Muhammad hated them because they used BARK and make a lot of noiseS when he wanted to sneak up on the sleeping tribes in the middle of the night to rob and assassinate whom ever he wanted ....He even made doges as ' najas '' .. ..

Muhammad told a Muslim women to breast feed young men [ not thier husbands ] for them to be able to mingle together without veil ... to make them halal [ Muhrams ]

IS THAT A MORAL ACT ? ... Is Muhammad is Moral man ? ... No way

You ARE IMMORAL BY PROMOTING Islam .. YOU CONDONE Islam, so you nothing but a THUG like your prophet .

You are a fool to think ..it is a test .. that is absurd and delusional

BTW ... Muslims usually do not support terrorists organization in the open like you did, in your post that gone with the article ... Some do it in secrete among themselves, in hate for the west, ..so what you said yesterday does not make any sense .

Care to explain ? ..are you a Muslim or not ?

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Ibn Kammona
written by Fine , February 24, 2013
By the time I finished your letter to Allah, I almost fell from laughing ... I was tearing ... funny ..BUT ALL TRUE

[ the stink , the gas, the cold water, the wine ... Muhammad's thugness, ]

Now you know why I have been saying '' Allah was the worst D grad student Allahs schools ever produced .. [ I gave Allah [D] not [F] because after all he was smart enough at least to copy few good passages from the bible to make Quran slightly seems good ]

Abn Kammona ..

My letter to Allah was rejected, and sent back with a note attached, apparently, When Allah found out I was a women, he was angry that, how dare I act on my own and NOT ask the permission from my master ..oops .. I mean my husband.

He also added .. I should find a another women to HELP me write a such an important letter to him.. he said ''didn't you read 2/282 .. women do not have the smarts to do the important things on their own like write a letter to Allah .. 2 women are needed to do so ... he explained so patiently '' if a women forgets the other will remind '' .

Allah called me a name I do not care to say .. I send him another letter with no help from another women or a husband, I am stubborn that way... and basically, told him what he could DO with his instructions and Quran for that matter, and I informed him I left his stupid religion for ever ''

:-)
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Jimi
written by Fine , February 24, 2013
Hey Jimi ... .watch the peace of Islam in a demo .. it is all over the streets shouting and killing and destroying !!

''Deadly Bangladesh clashes erupt over insults against Islam ''

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0db_1361622883

I just wanted to tell you and all your Muslims brothers who want us dead because we are bringing the truth as is to the world .

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN YOU ... SORRY EXCUSE OF HUMANE BEING
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written by Narinder , February 24, 2013
To me jimi seems to be very very very sick man and IQ less than one year old child and you can't argue with such idiot person.
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Although you can't...
written by Betty , February 24, 2013
accuse little jimi of this, I found it today and it really sums up what we're up against.

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written by kope , February 24, 2013

BBC Documentary Make Me a Muslim


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwaJSMCGTE
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Jimi
written by Kaser , February 24, 2013
How immoral can an infidel be???
Infidels/Kafirs/Dhimmis/Non-believers/Non-Muslims can be as immoral or as moral as the best of humans, Muslims.
Ahhh the besy of humanity... Muslims.

You know Jimi, I am very angry at Allah... Yep. Completely angry. Why you ask?
Allah played a trick on me. He made me get born into a non-Muslim family. Shocking no?
Can you imagine my sorrow when, as a young boy, I grew up in the darkness of my non-Muslim family?
I mean, I at bacon Jimi... Pork... I failed my test.

Oh why oh why did Allah do this to me??? Why curse me, as a baby, by making me get born not in an Islamic family...
Times were hard for me Jimi... I sufferred. But I managed. I had girlfriends (yes Jimi... I sinned. I fornicated... Many times).
But even though I was living a life of western-induced sin, I went to school, had friends, got an education (not Koranic, sadly)...
I drank alcohol (too much a few times, and Allah DID punish me for these excesses)

But why Jimi, why? Why did Allah make me get born into a non-Muslim family!!!! It's all HIS fault I'M now an atheist, no?

Not only did he do this to me Jimi, but Allah has now put a veil on my heart. I cannot embrace Islam because of this... Oh curses! Allah is harsh on me.
Why Jimi, why??? Why was I not born into an Islamic paradise like Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan??? Why did Allah curse me, and made me get born in the West !!!!

Please Jimi, help me understand !!!
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to Jimi
written by Infidel and MP , February 24, 2013
Jimi here is some information on muslims rules on having sex with dead and animals.
Go find yourself a goat or cow. Once you get fed up with them obviously you can eat them. Even your false frofet slept with his dead aunt.

http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...imals.html
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jimi
written by vbv , February 24, 2013
You say Allah created pigs to test muslims . What about bacterias, diseases, muslims being born blind, lame , hand-shrivelled, deformed , infact deformed not only physically but also mentally , brain-deformed..... All Allah's gifts to muslims , you may say , test test them ??? Hahahahahahahahah !!!!!!

I really found it very funny , when the author talks about the silly ritual called wud and the assembly of 'nammaaaz' with each muslim bowing at the backs of the other muslim , getting farted on the face ,........... what a 'relgion' ,some hygene it is indeed , that only can put up with such suffocating stink. Surely ,it is a miracle to survive such a stink !!! Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Jimmi your allah is an imbecile
written by Infidel and MP , February 24, 2013
Jimi your allah allows 4 men to a men but he makes them equal in numbers
so
what happens to three men out of 4 if 1 takes 4 women?
These three mount you innit.
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Islam and Faschism
written by The Great Buana , February 24, 2013
What do have Islam and Faschism in common?

They both are full of hate and intolerance and against many things but without clear vision what they are really wanting.

For many, they world looks easier to understand if we divide into muslims and non-muslims or superior and inferior people. Halal and Haram and so on.

But the reality does not match this primitive view. Reality is much more complicated and may even change from time to time. Muslims try to escape this reality but in fact they only fall more and more behind it until the islamic civilisation will break down which is already starting to happen.
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about Jimi
written by annad , February 24, 2013
I can't help but thinking that Jimi is an imposter and instigator. Pretty clever, BTW.

Why?

2 things are sticking out as "incompatible" with Islam - good English and honesty.

But maybe I am wrong? And statements that I see as too outlandish simply made because he believes in his righteousness?
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Jimi Infidels have more fun. cutting the knob reduces pleasure
written by Infidel and MP , February 24, 2013
http://forward.com/articles/17...-pleasure/

Jimi allah reduces pleasure for muslims. Allah is so partial innit.
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Annad
written by Fine , February 24, 2013
I suspected the same thing about Jimi the dimi … Muslims usually do not, declare support for Terrorism and called it peaceful … these kind of Muslims hide their feelings and declare islam and Muslims never support terrorism and we only misunderstanding Quran, or taking it out of context .

I might be wrong too ? … but I have to admit, he is refreshing and validating in compression to the endless stream of pure l i e s that Reed, Malam,abc,Kope and the new Muslim on the block Jimi the dimi.
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I&MP
written by dead or alive , February 24, 2013
One would wonder if sexual crimes and perversions are higher in countries who cut their males at birth?According to the study,cut males have sex on the brain 24/7.That could explain why religious countries watch more porn on the net than others?
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fine
written by dead or alive , February 24, 2013
The 1962 Elvis Presley song from the movie,Girls,Girls,Girls!The song`Return to sender,address unknown...`
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written by youcancallmeV , February 24, 2013
It's been long recognised by government agencies and NGOs that sexual offence rates are higher in communities that are sexually repressed. Sex offenders are often affected negatively by cultural superstitious belief and religious constraints. Often, sexual offences and homicide of the victim are combined. It's known that in Afghanistan, tribal elders have 'boy' friends....they are most certainly underage children, and that makes many of those trying to work in charitable aid very uncomfortable.
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Thanks to Allah
written by balam , February 25, 2013
I am grateful to you for not allowing meat of Pigs but allowing VIRGIN SEX with under age as you did with baby Aysha and promised similar delights in Islamic heavenly Brothel called Jannah. By the way why did you forbid WINE here but allowed in Jannah?Like your last prophet,I have also tried that.It tastes much better than PIG'S FLESH.Jizzak Allah Khair.
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vbv
written by Yibel , February 25, 2013
"each muslim bowing at the backs of the other muslim , getting farted on the face" LOL

Not to mention having to smell the next guy's stinky feet and see his butt in your face!

Now, all bow and worship the rock:

Sunaan ibn Majah,Vol.IV,Hadith number 2944:
Sa'd b. Jubair (Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have said, "I heard Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) saying that Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings Allah be upon him) said, "This Stone must come on the Day of Resurrection and it will have two eyes to see with and a tongue to talk with bearing witness for him who caressed it with Truth (Islam)."

Not only was Muhammad a believer in a supernatural power of the Ka'aba stones coming to life and speaking - he also declared that even touching the Ka'aba stones (there are actually three stones held together in a silver mounting) is akin to touching the Hands of Allah. To confirm that what he said was an absolute truth, he kissed the stones of Ka'aba.

And Muslims have been doing that ever since. Allah's "farding" Muslims!
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written by sesraj , February 25, 2013
Ibn Kammuna's writings are always wise and the best. The satires are so exciting.
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Thank you my brother Sesraj
written by IK , February 25, 2013
Thank you my brother and friend Sesraj.
This article was meant as satire, but it seems some of the commenters take it too serious. Let's chill out folks. Life is but a dream. And, without Islam, the dream will be a sweet one indeed.
Peace to all, especially the Ghilman and the houris waiting for the Jihadis... :)
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to IK
written by Infidel and MP , February 25, 2013
Ik you could have avoided some of the misfortunes that you faced being a muslim.
i.e. not standing behind others in prayer hall. For this you would have had to arrive early and stand in first row avoding standing behind the maulvi
and
doing wudu with mud(dried lest abc takes offence) so you would not have had the suffering from cold water.
And use some paper to put under forehead as shia muslims do to avoid any fungal infection on forehead.
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To fine
written by Archpagan , February 25, 2013
You are quite correct in your assessment of jimi. He gives out the mind of a hardcore/devout Muslim in contrast to Reed, abc, malem, kope et al who are all taqiyya artists. Likes of jimi vents their feelings freely and unabashedly to Muslim masses. But, I really did not expect that such a barbarian would ever pop up on this site.
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Muslim women always have to step back to please Muslim men
written by Fine , February 26, 2013
There is unfair thing happen when SALAT [prayer] in mosques preformed here in the city I live in, where, men pray, in the front and women bray right behind them … that caused big argument here in the mosque .

Apparently Muslim women got sick of making Salat, behind the men because they said:

'' When men bend over with their behind up in the air and most men make Salat with their western pants .. so, women complained, it is not holy for women to try to pray and think holy while they have no escape or no choice, but to look right up at a line of men's behinds all suspended in the air .

Women, asked to make Salat, side by side with a sheet separating, women from men .. that did not go well with the men, because they wanted full view of all the Manara .

So the men said why not have the sheet spread in between women and men where men in the front side and women in back side …. women, did not like it , they said they have the right to see everything including the Imam and the Manara …. [ at least women showed some spine … lol ]

They argued for long time ….in the end … you probably suspected, nothing got changed until now !…. Women still have to pray in the BEHIND as always has been and always will in that mosque and everywhere else for that matter in the Islamic world.

Men always get their way in the Islamic kind of life … anyone surprised ?
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Its Allahs will
written by infidel and MP , February 26, 2013
Its Allahs will to watch musli male ass*oles.


And probably suffer from poison gas (farts) collectively aimed at them from front.
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ignorant
written by malem , February 26, 2013
The letter above just points out how a fake muslim can entertain fools. people who laugh at this letter or get enjoyment out of it are just people who are ignorant of Islam and do not believe in freedom of religion, like Fineliving. You see why people Lie to their relatives about what they believe, and try to force others to believe their way it is just hypocrisy plain and simple. As you read through the posts you see the said lives that the islamaphobes live. they can only use vulgarity and personal atttacks. It must be tough living that way and may Allah have pity on you.
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No Mo, No Allah
written by The mystic , February 26, 2013
According to Dr Ali Sina's analysis, Allah is a figment of Mo's imagination. He n Mo were 2 in 1 for having the same character.
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Malem
written by Kaser , February 26, 2013
Struck a nerve that letter did, right?

BTW Allah will not have pity on me, for he has cast a veil upon my heart and has led me astray. It's not my fault...

Branding me an Islamophobe will you?

Thanks for the compliment, but flattery will get you nowhere my little Islamic zombie.

Cheers,
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English
written by English , February 27, 2013
Every Muslim in the world has been sucked in through their false prophet. Everyone of them are blind and enslaved to islam. What the prophet said to get them all hooked was pretty smart. He made up his revelations from his own warped mind and passed them on saying they came from allah. Do you dumb muslims really think that allah would say kill the Jews / Christians and infidels ? To rape and murder the women ? marry and have sex with kids ?

And also say kill the gay people and dont' drink alcohol ? Your prophet promises that you will go to a paradise, if you follow his EVIL ways. Whats in this paradise ? lets see : 72 virgins and YOUNG BOYS..!! Rivers flowing with WINE..!!!

You need to read up on your Quran and the hadith instead of going round to your local mosques to hear exactly what they want you to hear. Why do you hate the Jews ? This is why : Your prophet married a few Jews, and guess what ? A Jew women poisoned your prophet..!! None of you muslims will believe this because your're so blind to the truth, and shit scared of knowing the truth as well. Everyone is waking up to see how Evil and false islam really is, you guys are helping in a big way by exposing your ideology [ not religion ] with the shit you do around the world. You won't dominate the world... NEVER..!!
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English
written by Malem , February 27, 2013
You need to read the Koran instead of regurgitating lies, such as "72 virgins". Show me where it it says that in the Koran and if it does I will leave this site never to be heard from again. Come on now lad, you played your cards lets se if you can back them up. If you cannot then you can leave, how about that?

Kaser as I have said before your just a follower, thats all. I pity people like you who cannot make up their own mind or act independently, its quite sad. However you are very good at following so keep it up my little qurd.
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Malem
written by Kaser , February 27, 2013
It's ok Malem, there is no shame in you backing-off.
You cannot argue with me. You hold a weak hand, so you react by simple childish insults when you are cornered.
Enjoy the rest of your Islamic "fake" life based of the "fake" god created by your "fake" prophet.
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The ''qurd ''
written by Fine , February 27, 2013
Malam did not know he was a '' qurd '' before he involved to human … he walked on hand and feet and made sounds like ' hu hu hu '' and he jumped on trees … and he had as many females as he possibly can … nothing changed .. his kind did not evolved much …

Oh ...and he ate bananas too … hahaha
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To malem
written by Archpagan , February 27, 2013
'may Allah have pity on you.'

Do you really believe in Allah and respect him? If so, rescue Allah from the worst criminal in the History of mankind viz. Muhammad who has hijacked Him. By killing blasphemers and apostates you are only admitting to the charges against Muhammad. We are not Islamophobes but Islam-haters, because Muslims want to continue such crime against humanity with impunity under the protective gear called Islam. Muslim world is far behind the civilized world in terms of military might. So, there is nothing of substance to fear from you. You are only massaging your own ego by using the word 'islamaphobes'. We only fear your brutality, neither might nor ideology, just as we fear a hardcore criminal. If you consider yourself so, then only use further your pet word 'islamaphobes'.
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About those virgins
written by Yibel , February 27, 2013
The specific Hadith in which the number of virgins is specified is Hadith Al-Tirmidhi in the Book of Sunah (volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah, chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise. The same hadith is also quoted by Ibn Kathir in his Quranic commentary (Tafsir) of Surah 55 Al-Rahman:

"The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyah (a Damascus suburb) to Sana'a (Yemen)."

Q. 55:56 "In them will be Qasirat-ut-Tarf (Maidens) Chaste restraining their glances whom no man or Jinn before them has (had Tamth) touched (yatt-mithahunna)."

Q. 55:72-74 "Companions (hoorun) restrained (as to their glances) guarded in pavilions. Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched (yatt-mithahunna)."

Q 37:40-4 "In the Gardens of Paradise, Facing one another on thrones, Round them will be passed a cup of pure wine; White, delicious to the drinkers, Neither they will have any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, or sin, nor will they suffer intoxication from it. And with them will be chaste females (Hoorun), restraining their glances, with wide and beautiful eyes."

Q. 44:51-55 "Verily! The righteous will be in Paradise. Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and also in thick silk, facing each other, and We shall marry them to Houris (Hoorun) with wide, lovely eyes."
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Islamic Paradise is Nonsense
written by Gnostic , February 27, 2013
With or without virgins, there are many things wrong in islamic paradise. At first, it is clearly written by somebody strongly influenced by the life in the desert.

Secondly, why do people need gold and such things in paradise? What are they good for if there is plenty of everything?

Thirdly, who produces all such things such as the pillows made from silk usually imported from China where it was also invented? Does Allah still import silk from China? Is paradise a trade partner of China?

And how about nowadays? Will muslims get an iPad when entering paradise as an award for killing infidels?

BTW, isnt it extremely boring to have everything and no work. I know it is because I know unemployed people who have enough to live but they suffer from having nothing to do!

There is nothing in the quran about what people can do in paradise except consuming like lazy skunks!

If we compare this with Nirvana in Buddhism and Hinduism or other models then I would say that the islamic view is extremely naiv and primitve, to be straight and honest.
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English
written by English. , February 27, 2013
Thank you Yibel, you beat me to it.. :-) @Malem You have the proof now. Go and read it. " regurgitating lies " ? Things never change do they ? When you muslims get backed into a corner with the damning evidence there is nothing you can do except get angry and start calling it all lies.

In your Quran it says that you can lie and deceive when outnumbered and this is exactly what you guys do. Malem. You have been brainwashed from the day you were born. Programmed like a robot to follow a false ideology. I actually feel some sorry for the muslims, especially the ones that do realize the truth and leave islam, only later to be murdered like a dog.

I think that there are so many muslims that would like to leave islam [ especially the women ] but they are absolutely petrified because they know they will be hunted down and killed. Its very sad.
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English
written by Malem , February 27, 2013
Yet you failed again to show the verse in the Quran that states "72 Virgins". Why?" because it does not exist.

I realize that Kaser, Yibel, Fine, they have nothing to offer but complaining and incorrect translations of the Quran. Especially Fineliving, but it is because of her lack of proper education in Arabic that limits her ability.
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Yipel
written by Fine , February 27, 2013
Muslims could say what they want and deny all they want …

The fact is, Hadeeth says what was Muhammad going around saying, and he said there will be '' 72'' virgin in Janah .

And the fact is … Quran says there is unlimited virgins in Janah !!

So I ask this Question … what is the difference ? … why Muslims harp on a stupid number .. Muhammad had a thing for number '' 7'' as his ancestor were .. 7 skis .. 70,000 wings for … 72 virgins … etc

Whether the nummber '' 72"' is mentioned or not … does change the fact that Muhammad/ allah promised unlimited little virgins to Muslims men ?

Malam Is just trying to spilt hairs, to distract on the real shameful Islamic issue, [ a big problem he never addresses] which is '' Quran promised unlimted sex with unlimted virgins ..that on the side, to their wives [ who they had here on earth ] who will be waiting for their turn .

Besides … Quran was invented by Muhammad and Hadeeth was invinted by the Muslims whos around him …

To me … unlimited virgins sound a lot worse the 72 virgins … but that just me

I feel it only add extra nagging, to the 72 virgins, will be doing !! … hahahaha
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Virgins???
written by Gnostic , February 27, 2013
The discussion is laughable because most muslims believe in the hadith and only a small minority does not.

We are talking about the real existing islam here and not about malems islam with less than 1% market share.

Anyway there is no doubt that there are black eyed women who serve men and that there are many pleasures in the islamic paradise.
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Gnostic
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
So you speak for English now? Fact is he made an assertion, it was proved wrong now you and the others are trying to make excuses, it is your typical response. Predictable and quite boring. At least Fineliving is gone for a while, it was getting tough listening to all that Fine Whining
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Non-Quranis practices that muslims follow
written by scrutator , February 28, 2013
"written by Malem, February 27, 2013
Yet you failed again to show the verse in the Quran that states "72 Virgins". Why?" because it does not exist."


As a true muslim you believe in praying 5 times a day (NOT mentioned in the Quran) which comes from the two Sahih (authentic) Hadiths, Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, so too must you believe in the other quotes from these authentic Hadiths, namely 72 virgins and 28 or 30 boys for each male inmate of jannat! It is not clear what female entrants to jannat receive!

Also, male circumcision is nowhere mentioned in Islam, yet all muslims follow it! Strange, isn't it, considering it is a Jewish ritual which Muhammad copied!

Remember, these two authentic Hadiths rank only next to the Quran in Islam, and is always quoted and relied upon by muslim experts (pirs, imams, moulvis and mullahs) to emphasise a particular point in Islam.
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Scrutator
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
So you Scrued up lad. You proved my point it says it no where in the Koran. Thank you for you help.
There is no Ranking with the Koran, it is the only document with the words from Allah for Muslims, period case closed. Prayer times are in the Koran as well Scru-ball.
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my Qur'an posts
written by Yibel , February 28, 2013
are from accepted sources only - accepted by the schools of islamic jurisprudance - including that so-called university in cairo. malem - it is YOU who complains and posts INCORRECT translations of the quran.

Your latest rant is a perfect example. You claim that the qur'an, and islam, cherishes women; but, when asked to post the verses proving your claim, you posted 3 verses about taking care of parents -- which is NOT the same thing!

You keep saying that Fine's arabic in incorrect - but time and again she has proven you wrong. Besides, syrian arabic is considered to be classical arabic. It is the egyptians who speak dumb-dumb arabic!

And there has been nothing wrong with Kaser's posts, you just don't like what the qur'an and the ahadith really say! And you WHINE a lot!

As for the "72 virgins" thing - I posted where this came from - the ahadith says that 72 is the LEAST number of virgins that mahoundian terrorists will get in the stone-gawd allah's bordello/brothel in the sky.

malem, you are following a stark-crazy, pea-brained pillock's ranting and raving book of mayhem and murder,inc. Guess what that makes you?
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written by English , February 28, 2013
Ok Malem so it does not state in the koran 72 virgins. Big deal. But that is all you have got to come back with ?

Explain to us why your supposed allah says its ok to beat / rape / kill women or infidels, marry young girls or have sex with them. Rape young boys ? even though in Islam it's right to kill gays ????? You say only muslims understand the backwards and evil book ? Have you seen the video " The innocence of muhammad " This video was created by an X muslim that had his eyes opened by the pure concocted lies that your prophet spread. Go and watch it on youtube. I guarantee you will come back saying lies lies lies. That's what you muslims do when your false ideology is exposed.
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Yible
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
Your still wrong, there is no 72 Virgins in the Koran. Period.
Islam cherishes woman, I see it all the time and it is in the Koran.
Kaser is just another islamophobe like you
Fineliving, well shes gone now so thats the good news.
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sleeping with dogs
written by pipo , February 28, 2013
I just stumbled on a very funny video (Memri tv) featuring Egyptian Cleric Abu Islam. This imam must be the spiritual father of Kope and Jimi and he is a nutter like you only find them in Egypt. Here he gets into a fit about Jesus pictures and Western women sleeping with dogs.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBc5rkk35Gs
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Yibel
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
Admin is quite grabby these days!
Islam is self explanatory in that it prohibits ANY other texts etc but itself,Allah was wise to see men might try and add their own flavor.
Islam does cherish women, it is in the Koran I showed you a few places, and there are more. Nice try
Finelivings Arabic is awful, you dont know because you barely speak english.
Kaser is just lost, he has no knowledge of Islam except what he sees here which is abismal
72 Virgins is no where in the Koran, that was the assertion, it is a lie. so that makes you a liar
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English.
written by English , February 28, 2013
Hahahahaha Pipo. They are truly scraping the barrel now on trying to keep all the muslims hating lol The guy on the video is doing a muahammad the false prophet sketch by inventing more concoctions.. :-)
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english
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
Again the assertions you make are false, no where does it advocate such. Are you jsut going to keep repeating the same things that were proved wrong over a year ago or come up with some unique thoughts?
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written by English , February 28, 2013
Hhahahahah You muslims can be read just like a book. All you do is avoid every question and come back with " you are lying "
I have watched quite a few videos on the Christian David Wood, absolutely ripping apart your imans in debates. All he does is use the evil Koran to make them look so stupid and wrong. Check out his videos as well Malem, they are on youtube as well.

You can say what you want Malem. No one will ever take you seriously.

By the muslims doing what they are doing around the world. Thousands and thousands more people are seeing islam for what it actually is. Pure false / Evil and backward. I suggest you re-read the Koran, but this time DON'T skip the Evil it contains. i hope it opens your eyes. Jeeez. !!
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@Malem, Kope and all Islamists
written by scrutator , February 28, 2013
Why don't you directly answer the issues raised?

1) Praying 5 times a day is NOT mentioned in the Quran, so why do you and muslims do it?

2) 'Khatna' or male circumcision is NOT mentioned in the Quran, so why do muslims do it?

The 5 daily prayers are mentioned in the Alhadith and the muslims abide by it. Circumcision is an old Jewish practice copied by Muhammad.

Waiting for your answers!
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Scruball
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
1) It is in there, you need to read it. http://www.islamandquran.org/r...quran.html
2)Allah directed Muhammed in the Koran to follow the ways of Ibrahim, guess what, circumcision was part of that. So while circumcision is NOT obligatory in Islam it is also not prohibited.
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And the meltdown of Malem begins
written by Kaser , February 28, 2013
Malem, calm down, you are firing in all directions...

1- You always claimed that there are three mandatory prayers in ISlam, not 5. Why do you now state there is 5?

2- You still believe The Quran is the actual word of Allah, given to Mohammed through the angle Gabriel. Really Malem, you are a grown man, and you believe in this fairy tale?

3- The three examples you gave where the Quran cherishes women must be the best you could find. You are a self-proclaimed Quran expert. Obviously, you would give us examples to prove your point - that women are cherished. As Yibel said, the three references talk about parents. Not women. Care to repost some examples from the Quran that actually tell men to cherish women? Then, when (if) you do, wait for the deluge of references where women are treated like sub-humans, cattle, things to beat, half-wits, ect...

But I come to my point 2 above. You actually believe that the best Allah could do for ALL HUMANS, for ALL ETERNITY, is Mohammed? 1400 years ago, in the Middle-East, God, the creator OF ALL, chose one poor loser, and gave him instructions for ALL OF US? Including the Chinese? Including the Mayas? Including the Pygmees? Imcluding the American-Indians?

You really think god - the creator of all - could not do anything better than to send a few "prophets" in the heavily superstitious middle-East?
For all humans, for ever?

Really Malem???
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English
written by English , February 28, 2013
Malem. You say " Allah directed Muhammed in the Koran " He directed himself.

It was actually the Jewish scribes and non-Jewish scribes that your prophet used as slaves to write the koran. Muhammed could not read or write. He had them copy and edit his own retarded thoughts into his evil book.

Did you watch the video " The innocence of muhammad " I can bet that you did not. You are scared Malem, scared to know the real truth. But as a muslim, you will never admit it. Open your eyes and mind Malem. At least do some research. Don't carry on being blinded, wake up..!!
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re: Malem 72 Virgins
written by Gnostic , February 28, 2013
I did not want to enter the discussion about 72 virgins but about islamic paradise how it is rendered in the quran.

That it makes no sense to have golden accessoires there or pillows made from silk and that this is perhaps the most primitive and most naive view of after death I ever read.

Only greedy people need golden accessoires and thus islam is trying to attract people with easy promises. It sounds like a politician who makes promises in order to receive votes.

But who will keep this promises? You, Malem?
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English
written by English , February 28, 2013
Yes Gnostic, your're right.

Their prophet had to concoct a way that would entice his followers to do his evil work. So he promised them that they would receive all those things in paradise. so many of his followers had nothing on the earth so they thought " Yes..!! Virgins / young boys / wine / gold / silk. etc etc.. He well and truly fooled them, and still does to this day.
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re: English
written by Gnostic , February 28, 2013
Yes, and what about the black eyed ladies in Surah 44!? This IS an attempt to attract followers with sex. There is hardly any way to understand this in a different way!
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KAser Gnostic
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
KAser, I was pointing you to the location where it discusses prayer in the Koran, never indicated a number, but nice try putting words in my mouth. As for what is in Heaven etc, it doesnt matter to you or Gnostic since you dont believe so dont worry about it.
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re: Malem
written by Gnostic , February 28, 2013
Hey, you did not answer on the topic.

We are discussing here about the truth and the quran and you are trying to escape!

Why do believers enjoy golden accessoires in heaven?
Interestingly, in ancient times only a few people could afford them and most people were also not allowed to wear them.

But today? Many people can afford them and it makes little sense because they are no attraction any more. Not a big deal. And why silk? Does Allah import pillows made from silk from China for his arab followers?


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Gnostic
written by Malem , February 28, 2013
Escape? From what?
Note it is Accessories not Accessoires (or maybe that is French?)
Your question is aimed at What is awaiting us in Heaven. There is only one person who knows that true answer, Allah. So I would check with him. Otherwise the Koran describes figuratively the beauty and peace that is in heaven. If you have specific questions about pillows or silk, I would check with your local garment dealer lad.
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Only allah knows
written by Yibel , March 01, 2013
So I asked IT and here are some samples of ITS divine promises for the afterlife for pious Muslims only - Translated by Maolana A. Yousuf Ali):

Quran 52:17-20 "They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Huris (fair females) with wide lovely eyes." "There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw-."
Quran 37:40-48 "they will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches."
Quran 44:51-55 "Yes, and we shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (beautiful virgins)."
Quran 55:56-57 "In them (heavenly pavilions) will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?"
Quran 55:72 "Hur (beautiful, fair females) guarded in pavilions;"
Quran 78:31-32 "As for the righteous (the jihadiis), they surely triumph. Their gardens and vineyards and high-bosomed (pointed breast) virgins for companions, truly overflowing cup"
Quran 78: 33-34 "And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age, and a full cup of wine."
Quran 55:57-58 "Then which of the blessings of your lord will you both (jinn and men) deny? (In beauty) they (the houris) are like rubies and coral"
Quran 56:34-37) " We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand (those that get to enter heaven)."
Quran 55:70-77 " In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair, dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man or Jinn have touched before"
Quran 56:22 "And (there will be) Houris with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious)"
Quran 56: 35-36 "Verily, We have created them (maidens) of special creation. And made them Virgins."
Quran- 55:56 "Wherein both will be Qasirat-ut-Tarf (chaste females restraining their glances, desiring none except their husband) with whom no man or jinni has had tamth (sex) before them."
Quran 2:25 "And give glad tidings to those who believe and do righteous good deeds (kill and are killed for Allah), that for them will be Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise)---.and they will be given these things in resemblance (i.e., in the same form but different in taste) and they shall have therein Azwajun Muhtahharatun (purified mates and wives) and that they will have abide therein forever."
Quran:(47:15): "The description of Paradise which the Muttaqun have been promised (is that) in it are rivers of water the taste and smell of which are not changed, rivers of milk of which the taste never changes, rivers of wine delicious to those who drink, and rivers of clarified honey..."
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English.
written by English , March 01, 2013
Malem. We are not on here for a spelling or grammar lesson. You're boring the guys on here now, because you don't / can't answer the questions that are put to you.

There is just no way of getting through to your stupid brainwashed mind is there ?

You say that Islam is the religion of peace right ? lets have a look shall we ?

Why kill the Christians / Jews and infidels ?
Why treat women like dogs and second class ?
Why stone / whip and behead people ?
Why kill your own children, because of honor ?
Why throw acid in a women's face because she talked or looked at another man ?
Why beat a women because she doesn't want to have sex ?
Why does a women just need all male witnesses to prove that she was raped ?
Why does a women [ if found guilty ] have to marry her rapist ?
Why try to take over the world ?
Why kill someone for leaving islam ?
Why kill gay people, when you have young boys in your paradise ?

Why Why Why Malem ? Can't you honestly see that islam is a pure made up evil ideology that your Prophet created ?

Come on Malem. You honestly think that any god would treat the people he created like this ?

This is not some stupid competition for the best answers Malem. But I would love for you to answer those WHY questions ?


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Re: Malem: figuratively?
written by Gnostic , March 01, 2013
What is figuratively here? Or does it mean that muslims will have some kind of cybersex in heaven? And some more cyberpleasures?

I think this is not the intention. Muslims always had the idea that everything will be like in the quran with drinking wine and eating grenades and having sex. no space for any figurative meanings.
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I'm confused (but you know that Malem right?)
written by Kaser , March 01, 2013
According to you Malem, the Quran is the perfect word from God, himself the perfect communicator (your words).
Islam is only about the Quran - you refuse to abide by anything else right?

So even though you clearly read form the Quran a man can have 4 wives, why do you not accept the clear message from Allah that heaven is mainly comprised of wine, virgins girls, drinks and ostrich eggs (figuratively).
Why do you take word for word some passages (prayers, wives), but then you INTERPRET some other passages?

Be consistent. If you're a good Muslim, then when you die, you will be rewarded with many dark-eyed virgins, rivers of milk and honey, ect.
Malem, it's clearly written in the perfect Quran your Allah (the best communicator) wrote?

Oh and Malem, when you have your eternal sex orgy, what about your two wives???
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Paradise clearly described
written by Yibel , March 01, 2013
77:41 "...(they shall) dwell amidst cool shades and fountains, and feed on such fruits as they desire."
36:46 "... in the gardens of delight. Reclining face to face on soft couches, they shall be served with a goblet filled at a gushing fountain, white and delicious to those who drink it. It will neither dull their senses nor befuddle them. They shall be with bashful, darkeyed virgins, as chaste as sheltered ostrich eggs."
10:26 "in the Home of Peace"
15:48 "...(they shall) dwell among gardens and fountains...take their ease on couches face to face..."
34:38 dwell in the High Pavilions
43:70 "...served with golden dishes and golden cups."
16:16 "They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine...with fruits of their owh choice and flesh of fowls that they relish..."
16:27 "they shall recline on couches raised on high in the shade of thrornless
sidrs and talh; amidst gushing waters and abundant fruits, unforbidden, never ending."
Madinah surahs:
3:15, 138, 196 & 198 "...gardens watered by running streams...and spouses of
perfect chastity."
57:12 "...gardens watered by running streams..."
47:15 "Therein shall flow rivers of water undefiled, and rivers of milk forever fresh; rivers of wine delectable to those who drink it, and rivers of clarified
honey. There shall they eat of every fruit,.."
13:35 "...watered by running streams: eternal is the fruit, and eternal is its shade."
55:48 4 gardens planted with shady trees...Each watered by a flowing spring.
76:6 "(they) shall drink of a cup tempered at the Camphor Fountain, a gushing spring..."
76:15 "They shall be served on silver dishes, and beakers as large as goblets; silver goblets which they themselves shall measure: and cups brim-full of ginger-flavored water from a fount called Salsabil. They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholder's eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls...They shall be arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade with bracelets of silver...(with) pure nectar to drink"
22:23 "...in gardens watered by running streams...decked with bracelets of
gold and pearls, and arrayed in garments of silk."

Nothing FIGURATIVE about it!
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written by youcancallmeV , March 01, 2013
It's a rather sinister fairy story, that is imprinted upon the impressionable minds of the uneducated and the illiterate...
The perfect example of the Marxist principle that religion is the opium of the people.
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Urgent
written by lw1 , March 02, 2013
A true believer needs your urgent help. You will give him place in jannat, but he is still needed here to teach the people the true path.
We do not need the corrupted message Jesus gave of false Peace and forgiveness.
But let me give you the facts even though you are all knowing and would not need to improve anything since you can always give the best instruction. Was abrogation a joke?
BBC News. 28 February 2013. Deadly clashes over Bangladeshi trial.
At least 30 people have died in clashes in Bangladesh sparked by a death sentence handed to a senior Islamist leader for war crimes.
A tribunal sentenced Delwar Hossain Sayeedi to death for crimes including murder, torture and rape during the country's 1971 war of independence.
The verdict was cheered by his opponents, but supporters of his Jamaat -e -Islami party clashed with police. Jamaat say tribunal is biased against the party.
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Delwar Hossain Sayeedi tries to emulate the last prophet you sent. Forgive him if he didn't committ enough murders, torture and rapes.
We need only one miracle from you . I will never ask you for anything again.
Only one miracle, please.
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lw1
written by Kaser , March 02, 2013
Good one!
I wonder why Allah does not intervene and help his true followers like Delwar.

Oh wait, I know why...
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written by Mullah Buster , March 02, 2013
Hi Guys! I loved everything u've written here.I'm glad the world is catching on to the truth that Islam is. And i'm taking off from a different tangent altogether to do that. I know it might not work,but let me try the civilized way.
Lets see what was Persia before Islam came in.All Persians(that's 3/4th of the present middle east) have heard of Cyrus the Great.He was a great king in every way. He was the first one to have come up with the 'Charter of Human Rights'
http://www.farsinet.com/cyrus/
And then the Arabs came. They raped ur ancestors,beheaded every single male who resisted & was captured, sold millions into slavery & forced theeveryone one of you to give up one of the most richest & vibrant cultures the world had ever seen.Tried to destroy every single evidence of your language,ur culture & made u one of themselves.See what Mohammad said & did & u can make ur own comparisions,whether submitting to Allah has made u better men or have turned u into something worse than beasts.
The same thing goes for every country.Islam spread thro' the sword for it does not know love.
If ur a Muslim,ur first duty is to die fighting for Islam. If ur a muslim apostate,ur supposed to be killed.
If ur a non-muslim,then u shpuld be killed.
So,every other way,Islam sees to it that u die. This is pure devilish.
What u should do...let ur conscience decide for once...
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written by Mullah Buster , March 02, 2013
Qur'an's depiction of Allah:
He spends all his time in HELL-the Satan's realm, tormenting the inmates of hell. He is never shown playing with the virgins in paradise. Allah, like Satan, is sadistic. He leads men astray, shackles them, and drags them into hell, where he's personally involved, using their bodies as faggots for his fires. He roasts men on a spit, makes them eat thorns, and pours boiling water on them for what he calls "their entertainment."
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funny fools
written by malem , March 02, 2013
YOU four quote the same several lines over and over without ever taking into consideration the entire Surrah and the actual meaning. Haha. WHAT did you do when you read Hansel and Gretel, did yo Jay tag one line and day out add about ovenshaha Such morons you are it gives me humor for the day.
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OK no numbers are given, as if this would matter in the least....
written by 1proudkaffur4life , March 03, 2013
Well “malem” if the NUMBER of the 72 virgins are not found in the quoran, then WHY do SO MANY Muslims believe it? And MOST importantly should YOU not EDUCATE your brothers of faith, so that they can get the benefit of following the “right” Islam. You see infidels/unbelievers like myself are already doomed by your stoned-gawd allah. No amount of your preaching to us will change the fate. So do not wast your time TEACHING, us, but to your brothers of faith. Tell them the REAL Islam.

Quote: I realize that Kaser, Yibel, Fine, they have nothing to offer but complaining and incorrect translations of the Quran.”
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Now will you admit that allah is incapable to “PROTECT” his eternal unchanging word? All that is needed is humans who translate the quoran in foreign tongues and whoops it can be changed! Hey this is like with the Torah or the Gospel of the Bible you Muslims never tire to claim it was “corrupted”. Well guess what you just confirmed that humans can copy-edit the eternal words of your “stoned-gawd” allah. Nice job :-)
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Malem
written by lw1 , March 03, 2013
Yibel gives sura numbers to show what you true believers expect to get in heaven. He is backing what he is saying.
You still haven't given a sura number/s to back your claim 'women are worshipped under the Koran'.
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LOL :-)
written by 1proudkaffur4life , March 03, 2013

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins

For example, in the Sunan Ibn Majah, one of the six major Hadith collections,[30] it states in a hasan (good)[8] narration that every male admitted into Paradise will be given eternal erections and wed to 72 wives, all with libidinous sex organs.[9] Similarly in another hadith with multiple narrators that has been graded hasan (good), it states that the martyr (shahid) will be married to seventy-two of al-hoor al-‘iyn.[31][32]
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malman
written by Infidel and MP , March 03, 2013
Malmn if your wive(s) die before you die and if by chance they go to heaven what will they get dil*o or young men till they wait for the old fart? or what happens if the old fart arrieves in hell?
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English
written by English , March 03, 2013
Malem. So is there any chance of you answering the questions I gave above ? Why Why Malem ? If you know the Koran like you think you do, then answer the questions. Don't pussy foot around like you muslims normally do, and side track all the time. Just answer the questions ?

These are questions from an X MUSLIM.. that knows the Koran. So come on Malem. Don't be scared, tell us the truth ?????
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English, I&MP, lw1
written by Kaser , March 03, 2013
Malem will never answer our questions...
You have to understand Malem LIKES Islam as it is.
Malem does not want to change anything about Islam and the Quran - he loves it!!!
It gives him control over his wives. Heck, it gives him the right to have multiple wives.
It gives him the right to despise non-muslims. It gives him the right to despise haram things.

Also, notice that Malem refutes anything non-Quranic.
For him, there is the Quran, and only the Quran. Everything else is rubbish...
But, at the same, time, he CANNOT argue about anything with us because we will always win arguments.
He knows the Quran is full of crap, when we raise issues, he'll always explain that we take it out of context...

Funny, how can there be CONTEXT if Malem refuses to accept anything else than the Quran???
Where are we supposed to get context without any other source of information Malem???

Anyhow, look at his feeble attempt to prove Islam cherishes women... Three pathetic phrases praising PARENTS.
You'll never get his into any form of debate... because he knows he'll lose.

RIGHT MALEM?
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Paradise lost
written by Yibel , March 04, 2013
Malem, I quoted from more than two dozen quran surahs on the topic of islamic Paradise. Yes, the qur'an is highly repetitive. The reason that it seems like the qur'an is saying the same thing OVER and OVER again, is because IT IS. Muhammad used this promise of sex, wine, plenty to eat, and wealth to lure followers into his cult.

Qur'an 47:15 "In it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord." NOW - here's the REST OF THE PASSAGE:

"Can those in such Bliss be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels to pieces."

Malem, there are 146 references to Hell in the Qur'an. The qur'an is highly repetitive!!

And, here's the real kicker - According to the qur'an, only 6% of those in Hell are there for moral failings, such as murder, theft, etc. The other 94% of the reasons for being in Hell are for the INTELLECTUAL SIN of disagreeing with MUhammed - a PURELY POLITICAL crime.
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kaser - All
written by Malem , March 04, 2013
"Quran is repetitive" Dont you know practice makes perfect, maybe Allah knew how best to deliver messages to us!

"Quran mentions Hell" Yes, so what? Allah is trying to guide you so you dont end up there, your choice as he gave you free will.

As for all your questions, they have been answered numerous times over the years Im guessing your too thick to understand them.
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Here is qur'an verse 47:15 in context
written by Yibel , March 04, 2013
This surah is also called Al-Qital, “The Fighting” - because of its preoccupied with war against the unbelievers. Sura 47, "Muhammad" (chronologically # 95) contains all the familiar refrains for which the qur'an is soooo famous...such as:

Those who oppose Islam - Allah will “render their deeds vain” (verses 1, 8-9, 28, 32). Bulandshahri explains: “Even though the disbelievers may carry out many good deeds and render great services to mankind, these deeds will not be recognized on the Day of Judgment on account of their disbelief.”
In other words - if you don't follow Muhammad - Muhammad says: Go To Hell!

Muhammad also promises his god will improve the condition of the believers in verses 2, 7, 35. From a hadith in An-Nasai’s collection – one of the six collections Muslims consider most reliable – Muhammad prays, “O Allah, I seek refuge with you from unbelief and poverty.” When someone asked him, “Are they equal?” Muhammad replied, “Yes.” This is a connection clearly refuted by reality, but tenaciously believed by Muslims nonetheless.

Muhammad goes on to say that his god will protect the believers, while the unbelievers have no protector (47:11) and gives instructions to chop-off the heads of the unbelievers when the believers meet them in battle (47:4). This verse goes on to call for the taking of prisoners and allowing for “either generosity or ransom” of prisoners of war.
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Surah 47 Al-Qital, The Fighting, part 2
written by Yibel , March 04, 2013
"Allah is trying to guide you so you dont (sic) end up there, your choice as he gave you free will." Malem, there is NO FREE WILL IN ISLAM:

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and made them deaf and blind (47:23)
Their hearts are locked so that they cannot understand the Qur’an (47:24)
They apostatize from Islam because Iblees/Shaitan, the jinnii beguiles them (47:25).

This Madinah surah is a call to warfare against the unbelievers. Surah 47 gives instructions to Muslims to chop-off the heads of the unbelievers when the believers meet them in battle (47:4). The literal understanding of this verse according to: Ibn Kathir says that it means that when Muslims “fight against” unbelievers, they should “cut them down totally with your swords.”

Tafsir al-Jalalayn states: “in other words, slay them - in reference to the ‘striking of the necks’ because the predominant cause of being slayed is to be struck in the neck.” Zamakhshari takes “strike at the necks” to mean that Muslims should strike non-Muslims specifically on the neck rather than elsewhere, so as to make sure they are dead and not just wounded.

Surah 47 finishes with: This life is mere “play and amusement,” but those who obey Allah/Muhammad will not have to give up their worldly goods (47:36) however, They should not hesitate to spend money in Islam's cause (47:38).
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Kaser and others
written by lw1 , March 04, 2013
Islam will fall with questions, because most of it is unjustifiable in a civilized world. The golden rule is ' Do unto others that you would wish to be done to you.'
Malem thinks we are too thick to understand him, but cannot support most of his claims( may be he has backed something he said, but I haven't seen it) .
In Islam , difference of opinion quite often leads to violence. This truth is something most Muslims want to ignore.
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Lw1
written by Malem , March 04, 2013
Differences of opinion to not lead to violence. Theres been more aggression on this f:orum towards Muslims than the latter. By the way your man Kerry was in town, gave us another 350 Million! Thanks so much. Too bad you have budget problems back home. FYI we will need more before the end of the year so keep saving!
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re: Malem
written by The Great Buana , March 04, 2013
You are so right. The free and civilised world is pumping so much money into the muslim world for free which does not really deserve it. And the money does not help for reforms but it keeps these shit societies alive and working.

For humanity reasons or not, sometimes I think we should not pay for the muslims at all. Even if we pay their bills they blame us. We should let them collaps. Only this might help open their eyes that islam is the opposite of the solution.
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Money
written by Kaser , March 04, 2013
Western Money increases stability in the region.
It makes Egypt our friend (read bi*ch).
(Because we all know how unstable Islamic societies are).
Stability means Israel stays there... A bastion of non-Islamic democracy.
In your face Iran!
Stability as in "keep the oil flowing Saudi "princes"...

Hey Malem, did Qatar buy your pyramids yet?
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One of the best article
written by Imran Firasat - Spain , March 04, 2013
One of the best article I have ever readen. I give you 10 out of 10 for expressing your views in so beautiful way. These are the true feelings of an ex muslim. Thanks man.
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Kaser
written by Malem , March 04, 2013
Sure if thats what you want to think, just give the money and be quiet. Also we need some more tanks and planes get those ready to (Read Sucker!)
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Malem
written by lw1 , March 05, 2013
You said 'Differences of opinion to not lead to violence. Theres been more aggression on this f:orum towards Muslims than latter.'
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Malem
written by lw1 , March 05, 2013
You said 'Differences of opinion to not lead to violence. Theres been more aggression on this f:orum towards Muslims than latter.'
How many lives have been lost by 'aggression' on this forum? Read the report about Karachi bomb.
BBC News. 2/3/2013. Karachi bomb blast kills dozens.
At least 45 people have been killed by a bomb explosion in Pakistani city of Karachi, police say.
The blast in the mainly Shia Muslim area of Abbas Town, destroyed several buildings and set others on fire. Some reports spoke of a second explosion.
No group has yet said it planted the bomb, which went off near a MOSQUE as worshippers left evening prayers.
Shia minority are the target of frequent sectarian attacks from Sunni militants.
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This is a difference of opinion between Sunnis and Shias and this is the third major bombing this year against Shias. In the first two bombings the Shias refused to bury their dead for a couple of days until they were given more protection.
I have no personal enmity for you, it is your Islamic belief we are criticizing. Also you have to be responsible for what you say.
I do not want to pretend that Karachi bombing has nothing to do with Islam.
(Lots of money given in aid is wasted for these type of repairs and rebuilding.
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Lw1
written by Malem , March 05, 2013
Just keep sending the money over here, we will need about 100 million more come summer time to save up. Too bad your losing jobs there with the sequester yet you give us 350 million hahaha. Oh we need some tanks and aircraft so get building them.
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English.
written by English. , March 05, 2013
Explaining things to Malem is like explaining things to a stone wall. It does not matter what we say to him, he is truly blinded.

Malem you won't answer the questions, because you can't answer them. You carry on wasting your life believing in a false prophet and ideology.
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Malem
written by lw1 , March 05, 2013
You are our best ally. Keep on writing the way you do, so people can see what the true face of Islam is.

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